Neocons Go Full Witkoff-Leaks To Try To Destroy Trump Peace Plans
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The White House is under pressure tonight after an embarrassing leak of a phone call between Donald Trump s right hand man Steve Witkoff and a key Vladimir Putin aide discussing the peace plan for Ukraine. And a Georgia prosecutor drops the historic rocketeering case against President Trump and others for attempting to overturn the 2020 presidential election.
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President Trump says only a few points of disagreement remain on a possible deal to end the war between
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Russia and Ukraine, with a U.S. official telling CBS News yesterday that Ukraine's government
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Mr. Trump discussed the negotiations last night on Air Force One.
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And we won't know for a little while, but we're making progress.
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They're trying to get someone to start leaking classified information, national security information,
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like, oh, I don't know, the current peace negotiations between the United States, Ukraine, and Russia.
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Leak that out to try to gin up yet another impeachment of President Trump.
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The White House is under pressure tonight after an embarrassing leak.
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Bloomberg has obtained a transcript of a phone call between Donald Trump's right-hand man, Steve Witkoff,
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and a key Vladimir Putin aide discussing the peace plan for Ukraine.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
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So yesterday, I sat down and did an interview with Liz Wheeler over on The Blaze.
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And we were talking about the Seditious Six, and I know I've said this here as well in other spots.
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And we were talking about why did I think the Seditious Six put out what they put out, said what they said,
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Senator Mark Kelly, the rest of them, why are they suborning sedition?
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They want someone to come forward and leak on them the same way that the phone call between Zelensky and Trump all the way back in 2019 was leaked.
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And they're trying to use this eventually to set up another impeachment, a color revolution, get Trump out of office.
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Well, little did I know that at two—so Human Events Daily runs live 2 p.m. Eastern to 3 p.m. Eastern.
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At 2.53 p.m. Eastern, so we're on air, we're live, there comes a story, exclusive Bloomberg News.
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They have just received a leaked phone call of Steve Witkoff talking to the Russians all about the Trump-Ukraine peace deal.
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So someone—we don't know who exactly—but someone with access to classified information—and if you remember, by the way, go back to the Mike Flynn leaks with the Russians, David Ignatius over at The Washington Post.
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So he got a leak through FISA, which was on the Russian ambassador, Sergei Kislyak's phone.
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He got that leak of Mike Flynn talking to him during the transition period, and they used that to open up a Logan Act criminal investigation on National Security Advisor incoming Mike Flynn all the way back in December of 2020—or, excuse me, 2016.
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So could it be that elements of the U.S. government—and we don't know if it was specifically the U.S. government, possibly CIA, possibly Ukraine, and they passed it to someone?
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But there was a conversation between Steve Witkoff and the Russians, and they're having a conversation, negotiations.
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You know, he's talking about how the call is going to go, Trump and Putin, and they're talking about their bosses.
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It is really basic stuff that happens during negotiations, and the media is going to be very upset.
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But, yes, this is standard negotiation dialogue, which he's having.
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And, in fact, by the way, dutified, duly noted and appointed by the president of the United States as a cabinet-level position to go and seek peace with these various disputes.
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Now, he had Israel-Gaza a couple of months ago.
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Now we're looking at Russia-Ukraine, which has really become something of the white whale of this new administration because, of course, you're looking at the end of the first year and people saying, you know, is there going to be any end in sight?
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Now, I've, you know, I can personally attest to these efforts because I've been there in the room, traveled all the way to the presidential palace in Kiev with Secretary Besant on the mineral deal, then traveled to Anchorage, Alaska with President Trump to sit down with Lavrov.
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And Vladimir Putin himself also was there when Zelensky came to the White House, along with this coalition of the willing.
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That Macron is now calling yet again for European troops and American troops to enter Ukraine to, quote, maintain the peace, have a be a peacemaking force on the ground.
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Well, let me tell you something right now, folks.
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The neocons have one playbook and only one playbook, and that is to leak, to obfuscate, to subvert, and to try to keep the war going because they don't want us focused on the invasion of our lands, places like Texas, places like Western Europe, where our leaders in those areas have been complete failures, and they don't want people waking up to what's actually going on.
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All right, so J.D. Vance, we're told right now we're down at Fort Campbell with Secretary of the Army Driscoll,
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who has also been sort of the new special envoy on Ukraine working on this tack with Witkoff.
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We've got some of the images right there of Vice President J.D. Vance as well as Dan Driscoll.
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There with the troops handing out meals for this Thanksgiving time.
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It's an incredible, incredible work from our Vice President, former United States Marine himself.
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Someone else who is a Marine is joining us right now.
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It is Dan Caldwell, a former, I can say former here, official over at the Pentagon.
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So walk me through this story of the leaks, which I have to say, you know, when I was talking about, I said,
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I predict there's going to be a leaked phone call of these peace talks between Trump and I thought it'd be, you know,
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Less than less than two hours later, we get this leak.
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We had the WikiLeaks and we have the Witkoff leaks.
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And they're leaking this out because it's very simple.
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And people are saying, oh, well, he said this about Trump and he said this about Putin.
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And Dan, what are you hearing inside the system?
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Because I know you still have your ear to the ground in D.C. regarding these talks.
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Why does it seem like this town, the town of D.C., is trying to blow them up?
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Well, they want them to fail for a number of reasons.
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The timing of this is just too perfect, is that President Trump truthed out that Dan Driscoll
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and Steve Witkoff were going to go Driscoll to Kiev, Witkoff to Moscow,
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and that that was a sign that these talks were making actual progress.
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So surprise, surprise, somebody, I have my suspicions of who it is, but I'm not going
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But I'll just say it's somebody who doesn't want to see these talks succeed because they
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And within Washington, D.C., there are obviously a lot of entities, you know, obviously certain
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parts of the government, but also the think tank community, the media.
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They invested in this narrative for years that Ukraine could achieve a total victory, reclaim
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all the land it lost from 2014 to 2022, and ultimately deal decisive defeat to Putin.
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And we all knew at the time, those of us that understand these things, that can do basic
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math, understood that Russia had key advantages that the Ukrainians couldn't overcome, even with
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American and NATO support, and that the war was always going to end at the negotiating
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And there's also people involved that have a financial interest in the war continuing.
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So what they're trying to do is they're trying to take down people like Steve Witkoff, who,
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by the way, I just have to say, I think is a patriot.
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He could be sitting on a beach in Miami right now, but instead is flying around the world trying
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And they're also trying to divide the Trump team.
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But I think that the silver lining is, it is a sign that these talks are making actual
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And by the way, that's so true about Steve Witkoff.
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And by the way, so many other members of the administration, up to and including the president
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himself, they could all be just sitting on a beach.
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He could be sitting down at Mar-a-Lago, which is one of the most beautiful clubs in the entire
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He's got his his fame, his family, his supermodel wife.
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And I believe, if I remember correctly, he still flies around on his personal plane.
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He doesn't even take a government plane when he's doing all this travel all around the
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And imagine us actually having, you know, in the past, you couldn't even dream of having
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So, of course, what they're going to do is pit against it.
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They're trying to do everything they can, because when when it comes down to it, I think
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you're right that they are and they have been selling a lie for all of these years.
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And particularly, I said this on Steve Bannon earlier this morning, particularly, I think
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that the leaders of Western Europe are also using this this this threat of Russia, this
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You know, we have to keep continuing the war because it's it's very important or else
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They're using that to distract from the failures of their own governments, the failures of massive
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And, oh, by the way, the failures of them to defend their borders in the face of this
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massive migrant invasion that is absolutely embroiling all of Western Europe right now.
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And they say, oh, don't worry about it, because, you know, the real threat is Russia.
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And so I think that the minute that this goes away, now, all of a sudden, they're going
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And by the way, that's also holds true for Zelensky, who the minute that martial law is
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rescinded in Ukraine, he's going to have to stand for elections, which he has yet he
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The polling in Ukraine shows that he will likely be defeated by either, you know, an
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alternationalist or a former member of the military.
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He he has a vested interest in the war continuing or maybe as part of the peace deal, getting
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an out, maybe getting a condo and another country.
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So I think maybe that may be at play as well, too.
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I just I have to say something else, Jack, just to back up on on the attacks against not
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just Steve Whitcoff, but Dan Driscoll, Vice President Vance and whatnot, is there is an
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element of jealousy here is that you had the Biden administration full of these highly
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credentialed diplomats and people that had served in all the right posts throughout their
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career, people like Victoria Nuland, Tony Blinken, Brett McGurk.
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And their entire legacy is one of failure and death and destruction.
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And here you have guys like Steve Whitcoff, who in nine, ten months have ended more wars
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and ended more suffering and ended more bloodshed than they did in their entire 20 and 30 years.
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They're jealous of what Steve Whitcoff and President Trump and Vice President Vance and
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Secretary Rubio and now Secretary Driscoll are doing.
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And that is is is is so apparent in some of these comments you made.
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I mean, God forbid you turn on CNN, but you can just see the acid and the jealousy coming
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And I think you can't ignore that human element as well well, too, here.
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I would just add that, you know, you go back to the Obama administration, which, of course,
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Biden played a huge role in and all the way back to the events of 2014, where you've got
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again, you just can't separate all of these things that happen.
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And people say, why are you bringing that stuff up?
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Because you can't separate them from the history.
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You can't separate the fact that Biden's son was on the board of an energy company in Ukraine
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while he was the sitting vice president in the middle of what a lot of people have called
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Certainly something that had folks like John McCain and Lindsey Graham and others going
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over there trying to fan the Amy Klobuchar was over there trying to fan the flames.
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Standing on stage with literal Nazis and people who were mercilessly slaughtering Jewish and
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Polish villages in eastern Galatia, you know, during World War II, these reprisals, the
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And and yet, you know, we act like, oh, no, this was just, you know, it's just a totally
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And, you know, you really have to sit back and ask the question, you know, when when people
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in the area feel that this was provoked, when we do things like that, they might just have
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As you cannot, there's a straight line from Victoria Nuland handing out cookies on the
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Maidan to neo-Nazi organizations to what we're dealing with now.
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It's a straight line of the of foreign policy establishment failure.
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And that is the world that President Trump walked into.
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And this gets to the most important point, is that there there is this delusion that there's
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this magic set of sanctions and munitions and arms that you can dump into Ukraine.
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You can impose these sanctions on Russia and Russia will buckle and withdraw and agree to
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And the reality is, is that the longer this goes on, the worse it gets for Ukraine.
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And that is why they were aggressively pursuing this deal.
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And all the people that are trying to say that it gives too much to Russia or it's going
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to undermine Ukraine's sovereignty, wait six months, wait six months, and it's going to
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No, the deal's only going to get with the best deal is the first deal, right?
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Every single deal since then, the price goes up and up and up, not just terms of concessions,
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but also in terms of the amount of men, materiel, manpower and human lives that are lost every
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Dan Campbell, Caldwell, gosh, Ford Campbell, slept on a plane again last night, Dan, what
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I think it's my fourth red eye in like six days or something.
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Uh, so, uh, running, running down to the bone here, but, but, uh, Dan Caldwell, as we look
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at Ford Campbell, um, what is the deal with all of these peace plans?
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We hear the 28-point plan, the 19-point plan, the European plan, the Ukrainian plan, the Russian
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And I think obviously the answer is that clearly these are ongoing negotiations and people
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And so what are your sense that on that, but then also let's get into some of these sticking
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So first of all, my advice to all your listeners and viewers is what I was told when I went as
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a Marine to Iraq, and that is believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you
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There is a massive disinformation campaign going on to try and shape the narrative about
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And you also have the Ukrainians, the Russians, and the Europeans, they're trying to speak
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And in the case of the Ukrainians, I believe that they're trying to save face, is that a lot
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of them know they're going to have to make some tough concessions, and they don't want
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So there's a lot of people leaking to the various media outlets and friendly reporters trying
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to shape a narrative here, and everybody should be suspicious of that.
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But ultimately, at the end of the day, I think that this is really going to come down to a
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And first and foremost, I think the biggest one is Ukraine's alignment, whether or not it's
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going to join NATO or it's going to join the EU, either economically or part of the whole
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package, which includes certain security guarantees, and then what type of security guarantee is
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going to be given to Ukraine and how that is structured.
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Secondarily to that is the issue of territory, is are there going to be land swaps?
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Are there going to be other types of deals around territory, like a demilitarized zone?
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And I think the other big issue is going to be the size and scope of the Ukrainian military.
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And what I'd just finally say on this is, is that one thing that I would advise everyone
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is, is that there's going to be some face-saving things for both sides that fall under these
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So like the cap on the Ukrainian army, in my view, doesn't really matter that much.
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If there's a 600,000 cap or an 800,000 cap, the reality is the Ukrainians are unlikely
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going to be able to sustain a military of 500,000.
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But if there is a cap, then the Russians can say they got something out of that.
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So there's going to be a lot of things like that playing out.
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And ultimately, at the end of the day, where I think those issues are truly going to be
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resolved is when Steve Witkoff and Dan Driscoll and others get it to a point where President
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Trump, Zelensky, and Putin are ready to sit down.
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And those, it's those three that are going to ultimately resolve those issues.
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Well, and a big piece of this too, of course, is the security guarantee, because I've heard,
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you know, what in one of the drafts, I believe it's the European draft, they're talking about
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And I came on the program and said, well, there's no way Russia is going to agree to that.
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And that's been their, their sole main sticking point of any, you know, of any agreement.
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That's why they launched the war was over this issue.
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So they're just not going to agree to that in any situation.
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They're going to say, if that's your, you know, your condition, we're just going to keep
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And then when it also comes down to this, the idea of land swap, I, I, I saw that obviously
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Wyckoff mentions that in the, in the leak transcript, but at the same time, I haven't really seen
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any proposals for Russia to give back any land that they've taken, save that, that DMZ potentially
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And I think they hold small amounts of territory in Kharkiv and Sumi province.
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They'd probably withdraw from there and maybe agree to some type of buffer zone, but there,
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there likely wouldn't be a lot of, of land given back on the Russian side.
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I think that's reality, but Jack, you're absolutely right about the NATO point.
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And I think it's also worth noting too, that president Trump repeatedly going back years
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has said that Ukraine shouldn't be in NATO and said exactly what you said is that this
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I was with secretary head staff back in February, where he made very clear in front of all the
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NATO defense ministers and the Ukraine contact group that we don't believe that, that Ukraine
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And so I, I, I, I think that that for the United States and Russia is a deal breaker, but for
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the Europeans, they keep pushing that in my view, because a lot of, a lot of the, the members
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of the EU and European members of NATO, let's just be honest, they want the war to continue.
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So they're trying to insert that as a poison pill to undermine the negotiations and ultimately
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keep this war going on as long as it can for, for their own reasons.
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Jack Rosobiec, Dan Caldwell, right back human events daily.
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Jack Rosobiec, Dan Caldwell, right back human events daily.
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We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys and these are the
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All right, Jack Rosobiec, we're back live here.
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Dan, you know, it's, what's interesting about all of this is you and I are sitting here and
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we're chatting during the break a little bit, but we're having this discussion about the
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We're trying to be very sober about this, not give, you know, not let emotions or,
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you know, opinions really guard it other than this is analysis, right?
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This is understanding what the status of forces is on the ground, understanding what the order
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of battle is and trying to look at what's in the best interests of certainly the United
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States and, you know, hopefully, obviously our allies and partners as well.
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But that's not what you get from a lot of people when you read about this conflict.
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What you get are these sweeping statements about legitimacy and credibility and histrionics and
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And I guess, I guess my sense of it is, you know, and, you know, having worked in the IC
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and having worked in DC, I do try to get us, you know, this, there's, there's one school
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And to be sure that plays a part, but I don't know if that completely answers the question.
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I think that a lot of the neocons, they just actually believe this stuff.
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It is America needs to not just be the most powerful country in the world, which we should
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strive to be, but we need to dominate the world so we can oppose liberal hegemony.
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Is that they believe that ultimately America was founded.
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And obviously this is the wrong interpretation of America's founding, but that America was founded
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with this, this holy mission to make the world safe, not, you know, for Americans, but for
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And so for them, especially over the last few years, is that Russia, Ukraine has become the
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Nevermind the fact that as the war is dragged on, Ukraine has indisputably become more illiberal.
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You know, as you mentioned earlier, Zelensky's ruling under martial law.
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They're cracking down on media outlets in Ukraine.
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They're trying to close certain churches in Ukraine.
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And they're press gaining tens of thousands of Ukrainian men and forcing them to serve on
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By no reasonable measure is that a symptom of a healthy liberal democracy, not to mention
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the recent corruption scandal that is rocking Ukraine.
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And so for them, they are so invested in that narrative, in that mission, that if the war
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ends with anything short of a total Ukraine victory, it is going to shatter a core tenet
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It's not like, it's not just the military industrial complex wanting to make more money.
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In reality, Jack, as we've talked about before, is military industrial complex is more work
00:30:44.320
They have like seven, eight, ten years worth of backlogs and orders.
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Definitely people want to make money off of it.
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But in the United States, in the Beltway, there are so many people just invested emotionally
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and personally in this, that it's like this quasi-religious fervor that really has overtaken
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their thinking and preventing them from doing reasonable analysis of this conflict.
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It truly is the religion of D.C., the Bible of the Beltway, if you will.
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And the Bible of the Beltway gets taught when you're going through George Washington University
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or you're going through Georgetown or whatever it is or any of the foreign policy schools.
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You get taught neoconservatism, neoliberalism, and that is your soul.
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And by the way, that doesn't matter if you're a Republican or a Democrat.
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You get taught that this is a central tenet of our faith, that the United States must be
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this, what they call it, you know, the global guarantor, right?
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The global guarantor of the international rules-based order.
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And by the way, Tony Blinken would talk about this at length.
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And this is one of the reasons that they oppose Trump so much, because Trump doesn't play within
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It isn't even just so much that he's offering, you know, a peace deal to the Russians.
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So it's like he's not working through, you know, his diocese and his archdiocese and
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his bishop and the monsignors and the cardinals.
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No, he's set up his own religion, and he's trying to do it on his own.
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And that's the kind of response you're getting.
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You're getting a response of a religion that's trying to drive out a heretic.
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You know, and in this case, the cathedrals are places like AEI, you know, on the right
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and Brookings on the left, which I just have to note, the differences between those institutions
00:32:48.160
The same family runs the foreign policy program largely at both institutions.
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Fred Kagan at AEI, his brother, Bob Kagan at Brookings, who, by the way, is married to
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So a lot of the, as you pointed out, like the debate really is within the 40-yard lines
00:33:09.200
And that was the case for, you know, nearly 30 years until Donald Trump comes down the
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golden escalator in 2015 and just blows it all up.
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And a lot of the anger against him, a lot of the just the over-the-top rhetoric, and let's
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be honest, a lot of the actions by the national security state against him have been driven
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by the fact that he's a heretic in the main religion in D.C., and that religion is liberal
00:33:35.880
And by the way, you know, as obviously we see what's going on down in Venezuela or off
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the coast of Venezuela, and certainly the president is within his rights and absolutely
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within the interest of the United States to drive out narco-terrorists that are affecting
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But at the same time, you do hear and you can feel those winds of liberal hegemony pushing
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that naval flotilla, that carrier strike group, closer and closer to Venezuela because they
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want to drive this out and get us embroiled in yet another war, the Vietnam of the tropics,
00:34:11.640
I guess, right in our own hemisphere because this is a religious fervor for these people.
00:34:17.120
Right, and again, as you and I have discussed, what matters in our own hemisphere is more
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important than the negative dual issue of which Eastern European oligarch gets to loot
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It's like that doesn't really matter to our core national interests.
00:34:44.880
The cartels and other entities in the Western hemisphere are more of a threat to us than,
00:34:49.660
say, the remnants of al-Qaeda and ISIS in the Middle East.
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But I don't think it's in our interest to conduct a regime change war in our own hemisphere
00:35:02.260
It looks like President Trump has maybe backed off and is trying to, once again, pursue diplomacy
00:35:09.620
But it's interesting is that there actually are some people who traditionally are war hawks
00:35:15.560
opposing what is happening in Venezuela because, one, it's President Trump doing it, let's
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be honest, but also, two, is that they are more attached to what happens in the Middle East
00:35:26.660
or in Eastern Europe than our own hemisphere because they don't really have an attachment
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It's an attachment to the global project of liberal hegemony.
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And so that's why you have Bill Kristol, who's never met a war he didn't like.
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I mean, a few years ago, he was talking about making Cuba our 51st state.
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It's like he's raising concerns about doing stuff in Venezuela.
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And so that's something I'm starting to see pop up, is people opposing this and calling
00:35:55.540
for congressional oversight in Venezuela when they've opposed it for years in Ukraine and
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Because for them, it's about the global project, not what actually matters to us here in our
00:36:09.960
Right, because we're not exactly up against another empire there.
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It's not exactly this crossroads of the world, the, you know, we're East meets West.
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I mean, Ukraine itself, the name Ugoranitsa means at the border, it means borderland.
00:36:25.560
So it's always been this sort of area where, you know, you've seen this clash of empires.
00:36:31.000
And of course, we saw that in World War I, we saw that in World War II, and we see it yet
00:36:34.240
again today, Napoleonic Wars, it's everyone knows the history.
00:36:37.060
And if you don't, you should start learning it, because you will be doomed to repeat it.
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Final minute to you, Dan Caldwell, and make sure you also give us your coordinates for
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Jack, I just want to say real quickly, you absolutely need to learn about that history,
00:36:53.280
I'd advise everybody to learn about another war besides World War II, specifically World
00:36:58.440
But putting that aside, where you can find me the most is on X, at Dan D. Caldwell on X.
00:37:09.280
And by the way, just to get this out there, because this has been kind of blowing up on
00:37:14.280
my Twitter feed, I got to know, what is your stance on green bean casserole?
00:37:21.040
Can green bean casserole be part of your Thanksgiving dinner?
00:37:25.700
I have never had green bean casserole as part of Thanksgiving.
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That's just not something my family's ever done.
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But OK, but how about in OK, how about in the abstract in general, is green bean casserole
00:38:19.440
And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
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And we're going to turn it around and make our country great.
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I want to thank Dan Caldwell for coming on and giving us that great round robin.
00:38:53.420
I'm probably going to be probably going to be seeing a football game at some point this weekend.
00:39:02.000
And we've got something really exciting for everybody on.
00:39:11.120
What we're going to be doing here on Human Events Daily is taking kind of a different tack on things.
00:39:16.120
And there's been a few stories that I've wanted to get to and really just sit down and devote a lot of time to.
00:39:23.360
And the biggest one, I think, of course, that's clearly on my mind and all of our minds.
00:39:28.540
It's certainly not never far from my thoughts is the murder of my friend Charlie Kirk.
00:39:32.860
And we are got the T-shirt on here, the black freedom shirt.
00:39:38.180
And these are available, by the way, if you want one of these, you just go to turningpoint.com.
00:39:43.960
They they gave me a shirt and they said that if I want the shirt, I have to say turningpoint.com.
00:39:48.620
So you can go and get the they've got shirts, they've got hats, they've got other things up.
00:39:55.820
Into the case of Tyler Robinson himself, who was this guy?
00:40:03.920
What was his relationship with Lance Twiggs, his homosexual boyfriend and then later transed furry lover?
00:40:15.520
And how did liberalism, furry fetishes, pornography and all the rest of it lead to what we're told is him.
00:40:27.740
Climbing up on that roof and taking shots at my friend.
00:40:36.520
We're going to go through leaks that originally were released by a YouTuber called Turkey Tom.
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And we're going to talk about it with Liz Wheeler tomorrow.
00:40:46.320
And then on Friday, we've got clinical psychologist, Dr. Chloe Carmichael is going to join us.
00:40:51.740
And with Dr. Chloe, we're actually going to do a sort of, you know, psychoanalysis, psychoanalytical description of the relationship between these two.
00:41:01.220
So what makes them tick, how one drove the other and potentially what the motive may have been.
00:41:07.320
All of this is going to come out at the trial, by the way.
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So, you know, we're clearly trying to get ahead of that.
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But, you know, even from my own edification, you know, this is how I deal with things, folks.
00:41:16.700
This is how I when something like this happens, you know, other people, you know, have different processes.
00:41:32.540
Last night, we played on ThoughtCrime some of the footage from last year's Thanksgiving episode.
00:41:40.000
And it was a really interesting time because I want to put you into the context of where we were a year ago, Thanksgiving, the last Thanksgiving.
00:41:48.900
So Charlie and I were down in Florida and we were spending a lot of time at Mar-a-Lago.
00:42:04.060
And, you know, you're down there, you're seeing, you know, Pete Hegseth is coming in and then gets announced that he's going to be secretary of defense, later secretary of war.
00:42:15.100
You're seeing so many people come in through the cabinet.
00:42:17.680
You're seeing the incredible work of the Trump team as they go from being the campaign senior staff, Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller, Stephen Chung, Caroline Leavitt, everybody, you know, going through Taylor Budovich, Dan Scavino, so many names, right?
00:42:32.540
And I apologize for anyone that I may have missed.
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And, you know, Charlie was on top of the world.
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And a lot of late nights just sitting out with with Elon on the terrace at Mar-a-Lago chatting.
00:42:53.840
So in the middle of all this, we put together a because, you know, we're all in great moods.
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So we put together this thought crime Thanksgiving special.
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And Charlie and I, for once, it was just the two of us in the studio together.
00:43:09.700
And it's just from a personal note, one of my one of my favorite times that we did the show and probably my favorite episode.
00:43:17.640
I'm going to go have to say and it's my favorite episode.
00:43:20.320
And I want to play a clip of that for you right now because it was not us just agreeing.
00:43:25.400
And I held Charlie's feet to the fire, by the way, by the way, I don't want to throw my mom under the bus because every single year.
00:43:31.520
And I know she's going to watch this every single year post that there's like a selection of pumpkin pies that is always available.
00:43:39.060
By the way, do you think that pecan pie can also make an appearance?
00:43:43.660
Other pies can be there, but pumpkin is the only one.
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When you were little, my mom makes a killer pecan pie.
00:44:00.020
What about when I was younger, I was always pumpkin, but then pecan pie.
00:44:05.060
Now we're getting into chocolate pecan pie, and that's where you just surrender.
00:44:11.520
So you throw, you throw, because guys, you know, folks who don't know, Charlie, you're usually pretty strict with your diet.
00:44:28.620
And, you know, I got to say, just look, no hate for pecan pie.
00:44:34.700
I'm not against pecan pie, but it's not better than pumpkin.
00:44:39.260
But to his credit, Charlie did admit that pumpkin pie is required for Thanksgiving.
00:44:45.700
And in fact, we put together and if you guys want to go watch the episode, it's up on on Charlie Kirk's podcast and you can get it on Human Events Daily as well.
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We put together Charlie Kirk's entire Thanksgiving menu.
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And so I want I want everyone to go and check that out.
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So he's got, you know, turkey is required turkey with gravy stuffing.
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And he gives out an entire recipe for stuffing cranberries straight from the can.
00:45:18.060
Charlie believed that marshmallows were kind of a new age thing and they're not really part of it.
00:45:23.320
And then, yes, you you cap it all off with that commandment.
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And what he said was the first commandment of Thanksgiving.
00:45:40.160
I don't think we were planning to talk about Thanksgiving or maybe just we were going to talk about like what we did.
00:45:44.360
And I had no idea that Thanksgiving was such an important holiday for Charlie and something that he took so incredibly seriously.
00:45:53.320
But it was cool to see that that this really was a big holiday for him.
00:45:56.980
And, you know, I'll just say this, that, you know, you saw that video of of him talking about his mom making such a what he said, a killer pecan pie.
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And I hope that she's making it again this year and I hope that she continues to serve it because it was her son's favorite, favorite pie.
00:46:17.220
And but you got to also have the pumpkin pie as well.
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Can't can't break the first commandment of Thanksgiving.
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So I know that all of us are going to be thinking about Charlie a lot during the holidays.
00:46:38.300
So this is a copy of the new book that Charlie is going to be putting out comes out December 9th.
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It's about how Charlie would take one day a week off of social media and focus on family, focus on God, focus on reading.
00:46:57.220
So taking that one day off, stop in the name of God.
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Really, really want to say thank you to everybody for getting the early copy of this.
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We're going to be checking it out this weekend, of course, over Thanksgiving.
00:47:14.180
And if you guys want to get a copy of it as well, you guys can go ahead and preorder that right now.
00:47:20.720
And, you know, from the Poso family to all of yours, have a happy Thanksgiving.
00:47:28.480
Be thankful for the things that you have because you could lose them in an instant.
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And I'll just say this, folks, that for this Thanksgiving at our table, we're going to be leaving a chair empty for Charlie.
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As a reminder, not that he's gone, but a reminder that he's with us celebrating Thanksgiving up in heaven with Rush and all the heroes.
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Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.