The first episode of the new Turning Point USA docu series, "The Battle for the Border" is out now, featuring Sheriff Mark Lamb of the Pinalcari, Arizona Police Department. In this episode, we discuss the dangers of the drug trade between the United States and Mexico, and how the war on drugs is spilling across the border.
00:01:47.520I'm kind of smirking because I'm the star now.
00:01:49.740I like to think of myself as the protagonist of the story.
00:01:53.860Well, I'm glad that we have at least a few protagonists because there's plenty of villains and adversaries and antagonists to be found throughout this entire piece.
00:02:06.080It is crazy what is going on, not only in this country, but specifically where we come into play is at the border.
00:02:14.220Well, Sheriff, for the folks who haven't seen it yet, because there may be some who haven't yet, what I want to do is just take a couple of seconds, play the trailer for the actual docu-series, and then we'll watch it together.
00:02:26.180And then we'll come back on the other end, and I'll get your response to it.
00:03:46.760I'm excited that the American people are going to actually get a chance to see what we're dealing with here, and really that it's not an Arizona or a Texas issue.
00:03:55.000It's an America issue, and I love what Derek Maltz said when he said it's not a red or blue issue.
00:04:02.360Yeah, I actually got to be a little behind the scenes for everybody, so I actually was on set when Derek gave his interview to the team because we actually filmed that over here in D.C. where I am.
00:04:15.400Of course, most of his work was down on the border, but it's also a situation that one of the things they get into in this first episode that just came out on Friday is this idea of the North-South divide on it.
00:04:45.380Because it's completely populated by fentanyl zombies that you can see walking around any time of day.
00:04:51.840You and I could go there right now, and I guarantee you there'd be hundreds of them walking around, shambling around, trying to get their next fix.
00:05:00.180It is literally an open-air drug market.
00:05:05.580But the people are left there to their own devices every single day.
00:05:10.580And what's interesting is that in this first episode, one of the things they talk about is the difference between the North-South divide on this.
00:05:18.360Because in the North, we do see the fentanyl deaths.
00:06:08.920As a matter of fact, the product, which is human beings, which you mentioned, and the drugs, is not designed to stay in Arizona or Texas.
00:06:15.960It's designed to go throughout America.
00:06:17.700And the disconnect, which has really been created by the politicians and the mainstream media's gaslighting of the American people, that disconnect is right there because they see the effects of fentanyl, but they're not told where it's coming from, which is right across our southern border into America.
00:06:36.840Something that we could easily stop if we were committed to it.
00:06:39.840So then what's very interesting, though, that I think for a lot of people is that, and this is something that you hear politicians starting to say more, conservative politicians, conservative leaders, this idea that every state is a border state.
00:06:55.840Now, obviously, that's not true in the geographic sense, but it's true in the sense that the crime, the cartel crime that's affecting Texas and Arizona and New Mexico and the southern border states.
00:07:07.680California is now also seeping all the way throughout the country so that it's literally a 50 state, even Alaska, a 50 state issue because of the drugs and because of the human trafficking that's pouring in.
00:07:21.940And yet, because there are so many people that are benefiting, that are actually benefiting from this flow, that are getting a cut of it, we're told to completely look the other way.
00:07:31.680We're told to focus on conflicts that are going on in the world thousands of miles away that involve people that have been fighting for for thousands of years.
00:07:41.780We're supposed to they want us to focus on that.
00:07:44.020They don't want us to focus on what's actually happening in our own communities.
00:07:47.820And so I do commend you for putting this together, being the main, you know, voice in this.
00:07:53.780But, you know, out of many, many voices, we're either currently serving, have served as a there's a whistleblower at one point, by the way,
00:08:00.300who's currently serving in the Border Patrol on this.
00:08:03.900And actually, for folks who don't know or they may have seen the Great Reset documentary that we did.
00:08:08.260This is actually the same crew that worked on this piece that made.
00:08:12.500So, you know, produced by the same the same team that went over to Davos.
00:08:16.780It's actually the guys. And I think you saw the video as well.
00:08:19.140It's the guys who are getting detained with me over in Davos right outside by Klaus Schwab and his thugs.
00:08:25.800Yeah, I'm going to give a shout out to Marcus and Ken Ryan.
00:08:28.180And it's a great crew. They work hard.
00:08:30.740They really caught on to the vision, much like what you experienced over there in Davos.
00:08:35.520These are guys that are committed to the project.
00:08:37.540But, frankly, they're committed to America.
00:08:39.680And they wanted to expose this just as much as I did.
00:09:07.980And unfortunately, though, the brunt, it seems, of the violence is being affected more in the south.
00:09:15.600Now, we are seeing the overdose deaths in the north.
00:09:18.080And there's a philosophical argument that I've heard.
00:09:21.240I find it interesting when they say, is every overdose technically a suicide?
00:09:25.720And it's an interesting philosophical take.
00:09:27.920But, you know, for the brunt of this, we're talking about the actual physical violence that's going on.
00:09:33.220That really is more focused on the southern border.
00:09:36.840And for folks who, you know, we should probably throw out there right now.
00:09:40.720I'm not going to use the phrase trigger warning.
00:09:42.480Right. But, you know, there's that idea of parental discretion advised.
00:09:46.300I would absolutely say that for this documentary, because even in some of the scenes that I saw, this is gory stuff.
00:09:53.860And, you know, for a Turning Point USA production, Turning Point's known, of course, you know, focusing with with students,
00:09:59.860that this is a topic that includes some imagery that's very bloody, that's very gory.
00:10:06.940You're looking at the aftermath in some cases of cartel hits, cartel executions.
00:10:12.920And there are no punches pulled in terms of this is completely uncensored.
00:10:16.740And you are going to see exactly in this documentary what the cartels are doing in places, by the way, and not just on the border.
00:10:25.220It's it's this goes far, far, far north of the border, even into your county, into places of Texas, Dallas, Texas, which is nowhere near the border.
00:10:32.960If you know Texas, this idea that it's happening everywhere.
00:10:36.880We've got a couple of minutes left in this segment, but I wonder if you could if you could just touch a little bit generally on the violence.
00:10:44.920Yeah, of course, we're seeing that violence spilling over.
00:10:47.080This is violence that occurs in Mexico every day.
00:10:49.660We are seeing that violence occur here in Arizona, Texas.
00:10:53.360But I'll tell you, I talk to sheriffs all across this country and we are seeing more and more violence throughout the rest of the country as well that involves people that are here illegally.
00:11:03.440And really, I want to touch on you had mentioned the fentanyl overdoses.
00:11:06.860I think we got to call them for what they are.
00:11:10.700They're poisoning the American people to the tune of over 100,000 people last year.
00:11:16.480So not only do you have the violence that is spilling over in our communities, you have the poisoning of the American citizens by the cartels and by the Chinese who are providing the precursors for this.
00:11:28.100And I think it's important, Jack, that we tell the story exactly how it is.
00:11:31.760If you want to understand the reality of this, of the open border policies, you have to see it real and full on.
00:11:39.240And that's the only way the American people are going to wake up to what is going on at the southern border and how this will cripple America and bring us to our knees if we don't fix it.
00:11:56.380I appreciate, by the way, being so generous with your time for us, for the Real America's Voice audience, for Turning Point USA because of the importance of this issue.
00:12:05.580We're going to get into the poisonings.
00:12:06.920We're going to get into the fact that the precursors are being sent by the CCP, and there is a historical precedent for that, going back to the opium wars.
00:12:14.300And we're going to talk about what's happening with these cartels, how they've evolved from these mere drug trafficking operations into a almost parallel transnational criminal government that's operating as a transnational force across our border.
00:12:31.760The question is, folks, we don't have control of our border.
00:12:43.820This is Jack Posobiec, Human Events Special, The Battle for the Border.
00:12:48.300And I'm joined by the Sheriff of Pinal County, Mark Lamb.
00:12:51.700Sheriff, before you left, we were starting to talk more and more about these cartels.
00:12:56.280But before we go into that more about what the cartels are doing on our side of the border, I wondered if you could give us a little bit of, you know, when I was in the intel community, we would say an intel brief, you know, just a basic intel brief battle space update on what's the lay of the land?
00:13:12.340How do the cartels operate when they're on their side of the border?
00:13:16.680The Mexican side of the border, you know, the Mexican government, we're here, you know, we're told again and again, the Mexican government, oh, they're going after them.
00:13:25.480But then we see these crazy videos that come out and we covered it on The Daily Show where down in Jalisco, for example, they got into what seemed like armed conflict, like something I'd see out of Ukraine and Russia.
00:13:37.880But this is going on between the cartel and the government.
00:13:41.160It looks like they've got actual paramilitaries that are going on inside Mexico.
00:13:46.500So explain to me this, you know, we call them cartels, but I mean, we talk about them as terrorist organizations, but this is I mean, if they're a terrorist organization, they're almost ISIS level.
00:13:56.700Give us a quick update brief on what the cartels have evolved to as of today.
00:14:03.580Yeah, the cartels are virtually unencumbered down there in Mexico, so they're able to do their business without much resistance from the government.
00:14:12.160They're much stronger than the government.
00:14:13.840And this was proved positive when they arrested Chapo, Guzman's son.
00:14:18.500And within 24, I think it was less than 24 hours, they put so much violent pressure with firearms and weaponry and overwhelmed the government to the point that they released him.
00:14:31.980Now, what you've got in the cartels in Mexico is you've got various different cartels.
00:14:35.320You've got the Sinaloa cartels, CJNG, which is Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generación.
00:14:40.580You've got a couple other, the Gulf Cartel.
00:14:43.680Each one of them do a little bit different.
00:14:45.740But for the most part, they focus on trafficking humans and drugs into America.
00:14:50.740Now, some of them are so powerful and so wealthy.
00:14:53.120And every day that this administration continues with their open border policies, these groups become stronger and stronger because of the amount of cash that is being brought right to the doorsteps with these 300,000 plus people trying to come to America every month.
00:15:11.100And so they've become more and more powerful.
00:15:37.520And those power struggles not just happen within, like I said, the cartels, but it happens with the government as well.
00:15:43.800So essentially what you're telling us then is that the government has no control of them.
00:15:52.920They're basically their own government.
00:15:54.460I mean, this is something you would see out of the Middle Ages, right?
00:15:57.000You know, where some warlord just kind of comes in, takes over territory, and then they're battling it out with the other warlords.
00:16:03.640So the government, they might have the, you know, it's like, I guess, the king and the castle, but, you know, when you go, there's certain areas that are no-go zones.
00:16:12.180These zones, though, that we're talking about, that's entire provinces down there in Mexico.
00:16:17.920Yeah, Jack, and here's the sobering reality.
00:20:31.760It's happening because Joe Biden and this administration.
00:20:34.660It's happening because we as Americans lost our will to do the hard work and to protect our borders.
00:20:42.260We have allowed the cartels to gain the advantage of on us.
00:20:46.400And like Jordan Peterson says, we probably won't win because we are not willing to say no.
00:20:52.080So and until we have the moral fortitude to stop the things that are being that are being the evil and the pervasive things that are being allowed to enter our society through the southern borders,
00:21:07.200if we can't turn and tell them no and put our foot down and stop it, then we're not going to win this battle.
00:21:13.540And so this is the reason it's occurring is because of this administration.
00:21:20.460And you may say, well, you're just being political.
00:21:22.920No, I will tell you the statistics that that support what I'm saying.
00:21:26.940In 2018, I had one pursuit involving involving illegal alien.
00:21:39.720In 2020, this year alone, I've had 45.
00:21:44.800I've had a 250% increase in pursuits involving people coming to this country illegally, illegal aliens, people, humans being trafficked by the cartels and drugs being trafficked.
00:21:56.800I've seen a 200% increase in traffic stops involving human smuggling loads and drug smuggling loads.
00:22:04.260So when I tell you this, I'm telling you because I have the statistics to back it up right here in my own agency.
00:22:10.780Well, but and even for your own for your own agency, surely that's got to be a major strain on your manpower, on your ability to do what you do, because I don't know if the you know, if the state government or the county is able to even have the resources to deal with that down there.
00:22:27.860And, you know, I shudder to even think if the federal government is giving you any assistance.
00:22:36.280And frankly, I don't want their money.
00:22:39.040I want them to do their job, which is to secure the border.
00:22:42.080Now, the good men and women of Border Patrol and CBP and HSI, they do an amazing job.
00:22:48.500They're great men and women that put on the badge regardless of the fact they're not being supported by the Washington, D.C. bureaucrats.
00:22:55.860So when I say this, I'm not talking about them.
00:22:59.080I'm talking about Washington, D.C. has failed to do their job, which has put a lot of strain on us.
00:23:04.800And it's costing us a lot of money and other sheriffs from across the southern border.
00:23:09.340And then the states now and the counties are now having to pony up and say, look, we better allocate some funding from our own states to be able to help the sheriffs and the other agencies combat the problem that the federal government was passed to stop.
00:23:23.380And every time you try to do something to stop it, they'll swoop in and fight against you to ensure that you do not do what they are supposed to do, which the irony is they're not doing.
00:23:36.280And we've got about one minute left in the segment, but I'll throw out there just, you know, when when the horrific Uvalde shooting happened, you know, and the response was as crazy as it was.
00:23:48.360But people don't realize that the Uvalde is right on a major trafficking corridor and the police there initially initially thought that it was another one of these gotaways and bug out situations that happens with with the caravans.
00:24:01.560And that because the school had gone into lockdown something like three dozen times already this year prior to that happening in these gotaway situations rather than actually than realizing that from the initial reports that actually was an active shooter.
00:24:18.400And that possibly delayed and hampered some of the response.
00:24:23.000Now, again, again, I'm not making excuses for what happened there, but I want people to understand that this insanity going on on our border is having real effects on the resources of our law enforcement.
00:24:34.560Sheriff, stay right there because I'm going to bring you back right after this break.
00:24:37.880All right. We are back with Sheriff Mark Lamb of Pinal County, Arizona.
00:24:44.720Sheriff, one of the things that you mentioned in this last segment here on our Battle for the Border special was this idea that slavery is still going on in the United States.
00:24:59.480It's a different kind of slavery. It's not the agricultural slavery of the South as it was prior to the Civil War.
00:25:06.060But it's a new kind of slavery that involves women, in some cases, underage girls, underage boys.
00:25:12.940It's sex slavery. It's labor servitude of people that are being trafficked across the border by these transnational criminal cartels that are then putting these people essentially into bondage.
00:25:24.540And at numbers that are what you're saying is they may actually be higher than anything that we've ever seen before in our country.
00:25:33.220Tell us what are the type of things that you are seeing down there. Give us what you can of the statistics of it as well.
00:25:38.260Well, Jack, 300,000 plus people are showing up to the border every month, every month, do the numbers.
00:25:47.000Here's what the cartel understands. How many times can they sell you a pill? Once.
00:25:51.620How many times can they sell you an ounce of cocaine? Once.
00:25:55.580How many times can they sell you a woman or a child? Over and over and over again.
00:26:00.320And so the way that they do this is they will put the women into sex slavery.
00:26:04.700They put the children into sex slavery. And look, we have a major we have a really awful and disgusting and evil appetite in this country.
00:26:14.000We're seeing now a society is trying to to normalize pedophilia.
00:26:18.980And if you don't think that the cartel is more than willing to meet that demand, which is probably a very lucrative demand for them at this point, you're kidding yourself.
00:26:29.140So children are being put into slavery. We've got the men that are being extorted and forced to pay off, even though they might pay a small a sum.
00:26:38.160They usually will say, let's I'll give you an example. They charge six thousand dollars.
00:26:41.340They say, give me four thousand. You can pay off the other two thousand.
00:26:45.000And then these men are forced to work that off, but they never actually get out from underneath it.
00:26:49.200So when I talk about slavery, that's the reality of what we're seeing every month.
00:26:54.080And as Americans, we're allowing this to happen on our watch.
00:26:57.860I'm going to tell you a story of a woman we caught a while back.
00:27:02.080She had a baggie full of pills. And so we said, hey, what are these pills?
00:27:05.940I was thinking they might be fentanyl or something.
00:27:08.480And so she said, well, when I was going to cross the border, I knew that I was going to be raped multiple times.
00:27:16.960Where in the world? Where did we lose our moral compass so bad that under the name of politics will allow this to happen?
00:27:24.400We'll put politics in front of people. And that's truly what's happening every day.
00:27:28.440And the longer we allow this, the more people that are being enslaved every day, women, children and men being enslaved in this country.
00:27:36.500And it is not the American way. And we must put a stop to it.
00:27:40.440And I completely agree with that. And it's it's horrific.
00:27:44.440And I wonder why it is that outside of the, you know, two Sicario movies, you just don't hear very much in terms of what these cartels are doing and what they're capable of doing in terms of the real human depravity.
00:28:00.000In terms of that, there's there's an image in episode one.
00:28:04.560And again, you know, we've said to the audience a few times now that when you go watch this from Turning Point, that it's graphic.
00:28:12.200OK, and it doesn't pull punches. It's completely uncensored.
00:28:16.080And there is a depiction of a a rape tree.
00:28:21.240Sheriff, if you can, I'd like if you could explain to our audience what is a rape tree?
00:28:30.000And oftentimes the coyotes are those who are paid by the cartels to bring their product into America, which is humans and drugs.
00:28:38.520When they get to this side, oftentimes the price that they will exact on the women and children and sometimes even the men is to rape them.
00:28:48.240And they will rape the women over and over again, just like the story I just told you.
00:28:52.420And so they have these trees, these locations just on the other side of the United States side of the border that once they get here,
00:28:59.800they will rape the women and hang their bra and panties from these trees like trophies.
00:29:05.220And that is what we refer to as rape trees.
00:29:07.820There are some that are more prolific than others.
00:29:10.840But along the border, you have multiple areas where these coyotes or the cartel members will rape women, children and oftentimes abuse men as well.
00:29:50.140And that's just something where, again, you know, to the point earlier, if it's not red, white or blue, excuse me, it's not red or blue, but it should stick with you from the point that it doesn't matter where you stand on the political compass.
00:30:15.320And we as a country, we will twist ourselves in knots over the historic slavery.
00:30:25.000And we will constantly argue about it.
00:30:27.620And, you know, should this monument be at Arlington or should we tear it down?
00:30:31.380Well, what about the southern troops because the southern troops are still serving and have these debates at length even today for something that happened 150 years ago?
00:30:39.920But we completely overlook the humanitarian crisis and depravity that goes on every single day in our southern states.
00:30:52.680And, you know, I think I understand why.
00:30:55.600But, you know, if I could get your analysis on the situation, you know, why is it?
00:30:59.520Is it really, you know, should we be so cynical as to believe that because there are so many moneyed interests that are benefiting from this?
00:31:08.020Some people think, you know, liberals think they're going to get voters out of it.
00:31:11.820The big businesses think they're going to get workers out of it.
00:31:14.780Is it really just as cynical as that some kind of drug deal that was made, you know, pun not intended, at the higher higher levels?
00:31:20.800Or is there some other reason this does doesn't seem to break through in the mainstream?
00:33:00.320I know we haven't even gotten into that, but the dangerous drugs they bring in like fentanyl.
00:33:05.160I mean, every American, honestly, if you are not speaking out against this and you are not telling your politicians you're not OK with it,
00:33:12.620then I am going to tell you you are complicit in this behavior.
00:33:16.780You are complicit in the slavery, the enslaving of women and children, the extortion of men.
00:33:22.720And you're complicit in the poisoning of Americans across this country because you're like Abraham Lincoln says to sit by silence when they should protest, mixed cowards of men.
00:33:42.660So we've we've heard about what the cartels are doing in Mexico.
00:33:45.380We've heard about what happens on the border, the slavery, the sex slavery.
00:33:52.400But now we want to talk about this actual poisoning.
00:33:55.860I want to remind everybody, by the way, it's Salem now dot com.
00:33:59.540That's where you can go to watch this thing from October 7th through November 1st.
00:34:04.240It's going to be up on Rav and Rumble after.
00:34:05.880But for right now, it's exclusive on Salem now dot com to watch this border battle.
00:34:11.720But, Sheriff, if you could get into this and we'll carry it over after the break, got about two and a half minutes left here.
00:34:18.120This poison and I mentioned before, we talked about Kensington.
00:34:21.500You said your son was there doing missionary work.
00:34:24.160What is it about fentanyl that makes it so different from other drugs we've encountered?
00:34:29.780Well, as you heard me mention in this and the first episode of Border Battle, it's 100 times more powerful than morphine and 50 times more powerful than heroin.
00:34:39.000And if you really want to dive into some crazy stuff, it's not even crazy stuff.
00:34:44.420This is how China dynasty was brought to their knees during the opium wars.
00:35:24.740Yeah, it's gone up since we've been talking and it's only going to get worse because the amount of fentanyl that I'm catching in my county, I can only imagine what we're not catching and what's permeating through throughout America and what is affecting American families and lives every day.
00:35:43.800So we're going to go into our last segment here, by the way, that point you made mentioned about the imperial China.
00:35:49.380So this the fact that the British did that and we're the United States, that has no bearing on the Chinese because the CCP views it all as the the West writ large.
00:35:58.580So the West did this to us and now we're doing it back to them.
00:36:02.320So we're in the midst of the third opium war right now.
00:36:05.680And the opiate of choice just happens to be fentanyl.
00:36:11.660They very much understand the havoc that it is wreaking to middle America.
00:36:16.760And they're absolutely doing this on purpose.
00:36:19.800From their perspective, it's getting revenge on what the United States, well, not so much the United States, but the West did all those years ago to the Qing Empire.
00:36:29.660OK, coming back in just a couple of seconds for our final segment here on this special with Sheriff Mark Lamb.
00:36:42.400Our final segment here, Battle for the Border, this Sunday special with Sheriff Mark Lamb, who once again, we're just so thankful to you for being so generous with your time.
00:36:52.160But it's also because it's such an important issue to get into this here.
00:36:56.620Battle for the Border available now, SalemNow.com.
00:37:27.380Sheriff, talk to us how this crisis has turned every state into a border state, every town into a border town.
00:37:36.340Yeah, the amount of fentanyl the cartels bring it in here and they're making it so cheap.
00:37:43.140And not only that, they're putting it in everything, first and foremost, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, marijuana, the little THC vape cartridges.
00:37:54.100We're finding fentanyl in all of that.
00:37:56.440We're seeing cocaine addicts that are being poisoned by fentanyl that never once took a fentanyl pill.
00:38:01.380It's because the cartels want you to be addicted to their product the first time you use it.
00:38:06.720Now, they really love the fentanyl pills and they're selling it here in Arizona.
00:39:19.580And if America doesn't wake up, we're going to be brought to our knees by it.
00:39:22.960Well, and one of the ways that people can see this, and just going back to the city of Philadelphia, because, again, that's my frame of reference for a lot of this, is NARCAN, right?
00:39:32.640So NARCAN, we're hearing now that police departments around the country are starting to deploy with NARCAN.
00:39:39.980They're just distributing it, making sure everybody gets some.
00:39:42.080I know Special Forces guys that stayed in the military, guys that I worked with, they're deploying over.
00:39:48.900When they go to Afghanistan, they're taking NARCAN with them, because they've got fentanyl and synthetics and super fentanyl and all sorts of stuff over there that they're encountering.
00:39:56.080And in the city of Philadelphia, you're starting to see this in CVS checkout lines and Walgreens checkout lines.
00:40:03.820They've got the NARCAN up, because there's so many people ODing that, at least, you know, with the NARCAN up, you'd be able to get a little bit of a chance, right?
00:40:12.360You have the ability to possibly counteract or counteract the effects of this opiate before it shuts you down completely.
00:40:19.720But this idea that, you know, we're seeing something like, you know, it's like the adrenaline shot from Pulp Fiction in that, you know, the iconic scene, of course, with Umathermy and John Travolta.
00:40:29.560But, you know, you're seeing stuff like that when you go with your kids to check out at the drugstore is sitting out.
00:40:36.980That's where we are right now as a country.
00:41:28.160That statistic alone should get every politician unelected and get people in there who are going to put America first and who are actually going to do what it takes to protect American families and our communities from the dangers of human trafficking and drug trafficking.
00:41:42.900Because it's not about immigration, it's about human trafficking and drug trafficking into America.
00:41:51.140Some of the solutions that have been brought up in terms of this, because I want I want to show people that there is some hope, that there are solutions that have found a way forward.
00:42:00.940Of course, one of the most famous ones or possibly infamous ones was was the idea of a border wall.
00:42:07.540Can a border wall, a true border wall and I, you know, I just got back from Israel, we did the last week we showed the Holy Land special.
00:42:14.240We showed the actual wall that they have up between the West Bank and Israel over there.
00:42:18.620This enormous concrete wall with spotlights and watchtowers and everything else, you know, razor wire at the top.
00:42:25.840Can can an actual border wall help in this situation if it goes all the way across?
00:42:34.400No, no, no, you've got a couple of that or, you know, combine that with technology, ensuring that you have enough Border Patrol staffing, not bogging them down with babysitting people that are coming here illegally and making false claims of asylum because they didn't follow the rules that were set forth.
00:42:52.300And we allow them to continue to not follow the rules.
00:42:56.180You've got to do a lot more than just build the wall, but the wall is absolutely effective and it works.
00:43:02.440I see it every day and yet we stopped and we left gaps in the walls or there is no wall.
00:43:08.700They can just walk right around the edge of it.
00:43:11.060I will always have issues in my county because on the south end of our county, we have a Native American reservation.
00:43:16.840They're likely to never build a wall there, but at least you can create funnels and choke points to where we can focus more Border Patrol agents into that desert area and catch people as the cartels trying to push them through.
00:43:30.320So, yes, the wall work, but there's a lot more to it.
00:43:33.640But it starts with just being enforcing the rules and laws we have in place.
00:43:40.280You can't come and claim asylum if this is not the first country you arrived at after leaving your country.
00:43:46.700And just because you didn't like your country doesn't constitute an asylum claim either.
00:43:51.440You have to be a political persecution, some of the other things.
00:43:54.620And it's just we've allowed it to get totally adulterous.
00:43:59.520Now, let's talk about the cartels specifically, because we hear every once in a while the Mexican government, the federales go after them.
00:44:07.280But then there's a question, of course, about how much of the Mexican government, the federales may be complicit with cartel activity or have been been turned or corrupted by it.
00:44:15.940Because, again, I hope people understand this is an industry of hundreds of billions of dollars we're talking about here.
00:44:23.340And so the question is, what could be done better on our side of the border in terms of cartels?
00:44:30.840And I'm not going to go out there and call for full on military action into northern Mexico at this point.
00:44:35.740But, you know, maybe, maybe consider it could be considered by depending if we get a political change in Washington.
00:44:42.560But what really could be done to shut down this activity of the cartels?
00:44:49.700Well, you declare them terrorists and see this for what it is in an invasion.
00:44:54.900Once you declare them terrorists, it gives you the ability to really use your special forces.
00:45:01.000You don't even have to go in and create an exact war on northern Mexico.
00:45:04.700You just send in your special forces and your elite military units, which those are deteriorating because of our woke military now.
00:45:14.100But you send them in and you go in and you do what they do and you stop these cartels.
00:45:20.660Look, I was a gang drug detective for a long time.
00:45:23.740And the way you stop these bad guys is you put their proverbial boot in their throat.
00:45:29.640And you make it you make them impossible to do their business.
00:45:33.660You hold them accountable and you exact justice.
00:45:37.280But I think by declaring them terrorists, which is what they are, because they're striking fear into the hearts of families across America every day and into the hearts of those who are being abused by the cartels that our open border policies are bringing right to their doorstep.
00:45:52.400That's the first step. And go back to the Trump era policy.
00:45:57.020But that's those work. Let's get back to those policies and then we can start to work on fixing the definitely broken immigration piece of this as well.
00:46:06.400Yeah, I remember there was that. I don't know who was ever confirmed or not, but there was that New York Times piece that said, well, we've got, you know, Trump and the president was saying that asking around if if we could bomb the cartels.
00:46:20.080And they put this out everywhere. Trump wants to bomb the cartels. Trump wants to bomb the cartels.
00:46:25.140And I said, I don't have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with that at all.
00:46:29.120Who is a problem with that? I don't think any normal thinking person has an actual problem with that, because, of course, the question is.
00:46:35.580And with the same idea of designated terrorist organizations.
00:46:38.240Well, how do we deal with terrorists? How do we deal with ISIS?
00:46:40.060This drone strikes all day long. So I want to remind everybody, SalemNow.com.
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00:47:04.480Sheriff, I just want to say thank you again for so much time giving us the full hour here
00:47:09.540to break us through what's going on. And it is heartbreaking what's going on on the border in your county.
00:47:15.640Thank you again. What are your coordinates? Where can people get access to you and follow everything that your department is doing?
00:47:21.200And I appreciate it, Jack. And look, this is a to spend an hour talking about this very important issue is nothing.
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