In this episode of Human Events Daily, host Jack Posobiec talks with Andrew Colbert and Blake Neff about the Anti-Defamation League, the FBI's relationship with the group, and why they should be ashamed of themselves.
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00:02:55.540This might be something where we can get you in and get you on.
00:03:01.040Because yesterday, we got the incredible news, something that we've been banging on on thought crime and human events and the Charlie Kirk show was the ADL.
00:03:09.620And Charlie had this great tweet up, not even that long ago, where he said the ADL is number one and the SPLC is number two in terms of the purveyors of hate in America.
00:03:36.440So the ADL, the FBI has severed their relationship with them.
00:03:42.460Elon Musk is going hardcore on them, trying to push back on all of their government contracts, which we see are all over various levels of government.
00:03:53.400And today, online, people have just started blasting the SPLC because we're saying, guys, if we're...
00:03:58.840And specifically because, by the way, it started with the ADL's attack on Turning Point USA.
00:04:50.200But the ADL has no place extorting X, Twitter, or any other social media companies, nor should it dictate to federal law enforcement agencies what hate speech is.
00:04:59.940The ADL itself is America's number one purveyor of hate speech, parentheses, and the SPLC is number two.
00:05:07.720So the great Perry Abbasi, Pericles of Chicago, who is an alpha male married to a woman, that we congratulate him for that.
00:05:18.220He found that the day before, September 10th, that on September 9th, the SPLC released their hate watch newsletter.
00:06:08.080And then David Sachs would point out that if you search certain conservatives online, and I appreciate David pointing this out, that he said, you search Stephen Miller, first thing that comes up is SPLC.
00:06:21.860You search Jack Posobiec, the first thing that comes up is SPLC.
00:06:25.000And, in fact, last year, and we, or no, excuse me, earlier this year, in May of this year, the SPLC added Turning Point USA to their 2024 hate map.
00:06:40.120With these types of hate organizations, the extremists that follow them, we know that the Family Research Council shooter was an SPLC follower.
00:06:49.900The Steve Scalise shooter was an SPLC follower.
00:06:52.400So they've been tied to multiple shootings in the past, and yet they continue to dox.
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00:11:37.000For decades, the Southern Poverty Law Center has collected revenues well in excess of its spending.
00:11:41.660In 2022, it collected $140 million, spent just $110 million for a surplus of $30 million.
00:11:49.160It has, as of when he was writing this in 23, amassed a pool of assets totaling more than $700 million.
00:11:55.460Their lavish headquarters is nicknamed the Poverty Palace, but even other more principled liberals find the SPLC completely loathsome.
00:12:04.520In 1996, one of them called SPLC founder Morris Dees a fraud and a con man.
00:12:10.300In a 2019 piece, former staffer Bob Moser said the group was, quote, ripping off donors and was essentially a con.
00:12:17.860Well, the SPLC is headquartered in Montgomery, Alabama, and then he makes a reference to the NRA, which is headquartered in New York State, got besieged by the New York AG's office.
00:12:30.060They had an entire division of the New York AG's office that was basically get the NRA.
00:12:35.520And, you know, Bloomberg was very anti-gun.
00:12:39.540He funded this news outlet called The Trace, whose purpose was basically to just write about gun stuff so that over years you'd have this source that you could go to for anti-NRA stuff.
00:12:49.420No, Blake, I just want to check on this.
00:13:16.960Yeah, like, they're right there on the Gulf of America.
00:13:20.220Right there on the Gulf of America, the reddest of the red states.
00:13:23.200And the AG is sitting right there overseeing them.
00:13:27.380We saw what the AG has done in a state like Arizona.
00:13:29.660They've indicted Tyler, who is currently under indictment in his own state the minute they got a blue AG by, what, like, a couple of hundred votes.
00:13:39.380And the first thing they do is start indicting patriots, like our good friend.
00:13:42.800And we have these guys who are just very clearly, I would say, based on the information that we have in Charlie Kirk's book, the information that came out before, about the $30 million in the Caymans, that the great Tyler O'Neill over at Daily Signal, he's written entire books about these guys.
00:13:59.940You've got the predicate for an investigation into the SPLC for wire fraud.
00:14:21.280And so this is why local government, whether it's at the state level or at the city level, is so critically important.
00:14:27.220Yes, we won the nation, we won the national race with President Trump in the White House, God bless Charlie for all that he did to make that happen.
00:14:49.280But to your point, Jack, we on the right need to learn how to exert and use the power that we have.
00:14:54.060And it shows the character of a conservative versus a progressive.
00:14:58.240A progressive is just hell-bent on being as creative as they can to corrupt the system and to leverage the system in all these twisted, gross ways to punish their enemies.
00:15:07.600Conservatives, we're not wired that way.
00:15:09.640But when you have, to your point, a very clear predicate that this organization is engaging in fraudulent behavior and fleecing donors and whatever, then go investigate that.
00:15:20.740Use the power that the people have given you that's in your lawful purview.
00:16:08.040These are the organizations that have been spewing hate about Jack Posobiec, about Charlie Kirk, about Turning Point USA, and they're giving license to murderers.
00:16:18.380And what do they do with that money when you send it to them?
00:16:21.260They slander good people, good Christians, people that built this country, the kind of people that still hold the values that built this country.
00:16:30.260So it's infuriating to me that they're left to go untouched.
00:16:34.300And this is, you know, I go back to Utah State.
00:16:39.820Well, Governor Cox had privately communicated with us that, you know, Charlie maybe had some good points, okay, when he went after him back in the day.
00:16:47.200I know the phone call you're talking about.
00:16:48.660But this was an example, and this is, I think, where Governor Cox has, you know, improved and evolved, to use the Obama-ism.
00:16:59.340This was a red state, a very, very red state in Utah, where he was ceding ground to the left on issues of trans and women's sports and things like that.
00:17:10.260If you are a conservative and you are weak or ineffectual about these very key issues, by the way, that are 70-30, 80-20, 90-10, then we have no business with you, and we will spit you out.
00:17:21.660And we will primary you, and we'll replace you with better candidates.
00:17:24.660Is that a biblical reference, Andrew Colvett?
00:17:35.300So Floyd Lee Corkins, back in 2012, was an attempted shooter, wanted to conduct a mass shooting at the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C.
00:17:45.540And he went and planned to enter the offices of the Family Research Council, who stood for traditional marriage, and he learned about them because of the SPLC's hate watch list.
00:17:55.580So what he did is he went, he got his gun, he loaded it, he drove to Washington, D.C., but he didn't go to the Family Research Council first.
00:18:09.380Because Chick-fil-A had been labeled, and the Family Research Council had been labeled, and his plan was to buy Chick-fil-A sandwiches, shoot everyone in the office, and then throw Chick-fil-A sandwiches on their dead bodies as they bled out.
00:18:23.180Now, thank God he was stopped by a good guy with a gun the minute that he tried to get in there.
00:18:29.520But he got all of that information, including the hate, the incitement, the smearing, and the location of their office from the SPLC.
00:22:31.660She made a phone call to the Chicago DA, Kim Fox, just before she went and announced that she was going to not prosecute Jussie Smollett for that.
00:22:41.460So we have a shady chief of staff who was involved in letting someone get away with a crime, was brought in to investigate the SPLC, and that investigation has never materialized.
00:22:51.480There is so much shady behavior that has gone on here.
00:22:54.080And this is what I want to say is that Current Affairs, which is like a communist outlet, actually put out this whole thing about the SPLC's hate map and wrote,
00:23:06.820quote, the Southern Poverty Law Center is everything that's wrong with liberalism.
00:23:10.460It concluded that the hate rap is, quote, map, is, quote, outright fraud and, quote, a willful deception designed to scare older liberals into writing checks to the SPLC.
00:23:21.460And a former SPLC employee, Bob Moser, wrote, it was hard for many of us not to feel like we'd become pawns in what was, in many respects, a highly profitable scam.
00:23:32.680And this also, by the way, when they went after Majid Nawaz, my friend Majid Nawaz in the U.K., they found that the U.K. actually has something called real libel laws.
00:23:43.100And he sued and won a $3.3 million settlement with them, who they went after.
00:23:50.240They also had to walk back their statements on Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
00:23:54.660And they did actually publicly apologize to Dr. Ben Carson.
00:23:58.920But they include, again, they included Ben Carson in an extremist file.
00:24:03.820These people are completely out of control.
00:24:06.100And they're sitting in one of the red estates running a fraudulent scam, raking in a billion dollars and directly partnered with Google, directly partnered with YouTube,
00:24:17.220and in many cases partnered even with the FBI and members of law enforcement.
00:24:21.060And they're so often used as this bogus source by the media.
00:24:28.860So, like, the New York Times would cite them all the time, where they would say, you know, I'm looking right now at a New York Times article that was about the website VDARE.
00:24:36.280And it just throws in here, the Southern Poverty Law Center classifies VDARE as an anti-immigration hate website.
00:24:41.520Okay, so you're basically left-wing crazy group classifies this other group as evil hate group.
00:24:46.300And they just casually will do that all of the time.
00:24:48.840There was a Reuters article from 2019.
00:24:50.940It just throws in there that the number of hate crime groups rose 30% from 2014 to 2018, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
00:25:07.900By the way, I found, so I was digging on there, and I said, okay, well, let's do, remember we did the ADL.
00:25:13.680We were saying, let's see what they say about Antifa.
00:25:15.600And there's one, exactly one article on the SPLC's website where they mention Antifa, and it says,
00:25:23.800designated Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization is dangerous and threatens civil liberties.
00:25:30.020If I remember correctly, right after October 7th, the SPLC, not the SPLC main organization, but the union of SPLC workers,
00:25:40.180actually took a vote and condemned Israel after the October 7th attacks when they were going in and slaughtering families and little children in the settlements right outside of Gaza
00:25:53.640and has never gone after these organizations.
00:25:57.220So they'll talk about, you know, and again, Hamas, these actual terrorist organizations,
00:26:03.820and the SPLC will say, we'll just be either silent on them or the union will say, yeah, they had it coming.
00:27:51.500And we were in the Charlie Kirk studio.
00:27:54.120And, you know, we've, it's been, it's been now three weeks since Charlie's murder.
00:28:00.180And, you know, we were talking in the previous segment about how the SPLC, as well as the ADL, had targeted Charlie in the days up to, you know, leading up to his death.
00:28:10.560Put a turning point on the SPLC hate watch map, as well as targeting Charlie even the day before the shots rang out.
00:28:20.040And a man who, I've only just gotten to know recently, but also knew Charlie for a long time, and spoke at the memorial with me, I think right after me, actually, and was there with Charlie that day, joins us now.
00:28:45.080Sometimes some days I'm okay, other days I don't even want to go on almost, you know?
00:28:50.360I mean, it's, God, God can bring good from evil and is, but still, that doesn't negate the fact that that was such an evil act and a terrible day.
00:29:01.280And it's just been difficult, but it couldn't be more difficult than what's happening with Erica.
00:29:10.260And I just keep her in my prayers every day.
00:29:16.080And, you know, every chance I get to see her or, you know, other family members, I just try to, I don't know, say, use humor, try to find some way to get him a smile or something like that, just to lighten the load a little bit.
00:29:30.480Just give one moment of, you know, playing peekaboo or whatever it is.
00:29:34.620And, you know, it's, you did a, an incredible podcast.
00:29:41.840And I want you to tell people how to get the podcast where you tell the entire story of how you were there that day, because people have had so many questions about it.
00:29:51.360And I understand that I've, you know, I want to know what happened, Charlie, too.
00:29:54.060You tell the entire story from soup to nuts, as we would have said in the Navy, like a fellow shipmate, that not only did you see what happened, you helped put Charlie's body in the back of that SUV, which was essentially commandeered and rode with him to the hospital.
00:30:14.020And you shared just incredible details of, of having been there, tell people and make sure they know where they can get that podcast.
00:30:23.180Our website is crossexamined.org with a D on the end of it.
00:30:27.560But if they go to the YouTube channel, cross-examined, two words, they'll see it there.
00:30:32.460I think the title of it is called The Greatness of Charlie Kirk, an eyewitness account of his life and martyrdom.
00:30:39.000Um, and, uh, yeah, I was there with Charlie because, uh, about five years ago, Jackie contacted me because he had seen that I was going to college campuses.
00:30:48.640I wrote a, co-wrote a book called I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist.
00:30:51.880So I go to campuses and been doing it for almost 20 years now, presenting the evidence for Christianity and answering a lot of questions.
00:30:57.860And I guess Charlie just liked some of my answers.
00:31:00.140And so he reached out five years ago, five and a half years ago and said, hey, your ministry has been very pivotal and, uh, I want to learn from you.
00:31:07.940And, you know, can you kind of mentor me in this?
00:31:09.880And so, uh, he and I would get together this past summer, we got together on four occasions in Phoenix for a couple of days each time, uh, just so we could, you know, iron sharpens iron.
00:31:22.080I mean, it would, you would, you would think it would be difficult to, to mentor somebody smarter than you, Charlie's smarter than me, but it's not because the only thing that surpassed Charlie's intellect was his humility.
00:31:33.020And, uh, I'm sure he did this with you too, Jack.
00:31:36.380Hey, well, how would you answer this better?
00:31:43.060If, if anything, I would, I would say, you know, when Charlie and I would do our, um, you know, our thought crime show, which would, which today's Thursday and we would have been, you know, hosting it today.
00:31:52.460We have something special planned actually.
00:31:53.780You know, I was, I, if I could say anything, I was sort of Charlie's sparring partner, you know, and we would, uh, you know, get up some issue like flag burning or, you know, whatever the hot button issue was going on.
00:32:05.080And, you know, I would try to take the, the most opposed side I could, and we would just, we would just go at it.
00:32:10.860You know, we would just be, you know, ripping into each other and what about this and what about this and the Supreme and, and just back and forth.
00:32:17.040And it's like, you know, if he can do that working, you know, you, you do your sparring, you do your training so that he's totally ready to go there on the college campus.
00:32:26.200And then boom, wait, I remember I heard that.
00:32:28.380Cause you know, that came up before, like train, like you fight, like we used to say in the Navy.
00:32:32.780And, uh, I mean, it was, it was absolutely incredible.
00:32:35.740And little did we know, you know, all that prep work that he did for this tour.
00:32:40.240And he only made it about two questions in.
00:35:23.800And so I go into a lot more detail in that podcast.
00:35:27.420Again, it's called The Greatness of Charlie Kirk, an eyewitness account of his life and martyrdom.
00:35:33.320It's on our YouTube channel, Cross-Examined, two words.
00:35:38.040What was, I mean, and that podcast, I mean, when you did it, I mean, you put the listener right in the back of that SUV with you.
00:35:47.600And you talk about, the one thing that I did that is always going to stick with me is that when you got to the hospital and you, and I think you were there with Mikey and Danny, and they told you to change your clothes and they gave you scrubs.
00:36:03.500Yeah, we, we had to change our clothes for obvious reasons.
00:36:07.660So, you know, we had Justin drive and Dan's in the front with the GPS on his phone.
00:37:10.740It, I mean, you guys did what you did, the response being there and we're, we're coming up on a quick break, but I don't hold you over.
00:37:18.360Um, because I do want to talk about the, you know, what has become of this, but I just want to commend you for, for being there for Charlie.
00:37:25.760And, and, and doing what you did and trying.
00:37:31.600Jack, if you were standing there, you'd have done exactly the same thing.