Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 27, 2026


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 133 — Citizen Vigilante? The Male Ick?


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1 hour and 13 minutes

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244

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00:00:00.640 from the age of big brother if they want to get you they'll get you dnsa specifically
00:00:06.640 targets the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications
00:00:21.200 oh my oh my oh my is it time once again are we here folks are we here once again
00:00:29.120 oh yes it's another thursday upon us and that means it must be thought crime thursday or perhaps
00:00:34.540 for me today might be beach crime thursday i'm not sure folks but we're all here in fact some
00:00:41.180 of us may be a little bit more remote than others what's up guys in your little studio
00:00:46.940 in your little state called arizona that doesn't have one of those doesn't have one of these right
00:00:51.760 here are you at one of those those kind of beaches you know with all the teens running around
00:00:56.080 if it's
00:00:57.640 you're talking about beach crime
00:01:01.480 that's what makes me think
00:01:02.580 no our beach crime
00:01:05.680 is their 1.00
00:01:06.380 the problem youths are not allowed in
00:01:09.940 yeah these are ideological crimes
00:01:12.060 yes of course
00:01:13.760 but not like the mom donnie
00:01:15.560 ideological crimes
00:01:16.980 hey jack you look like you're having fun though
00:01:19.300 you don't look that much more tan though
00:01:21.800 I gotta be honest with you 1.00
00:01:22.900 I'm not sure do poles have the genetic ability 1.00
00:01:26.020 it must be the lighting jack yeah you must be washed out i got the sun like right over me as 0.94
00:01:32.140 we're taping this but like i am you're not swarthy looking like like us mexicans i'm looking like
00:01:37.400 beet red no that's because i'm not mexican like you yeah oh they got a new mexico sound effect
00:01:46.400 taco taco oh that was the taco bell i was like what is that i'm quarter mexican but according
00:01:51.820 to 23andme it's mostly iberian oh okay all right we're gonna need to see this we're gonna need to
00:01:57.400 i don't know how to log into it once i found out they're gonna use it to like biohack me someday
00:02:01.520 i was pretty upset that my mom made me do it but true story i'm mostly iberian
00:02:05.720 if one person your family does it then they got you oh yeah my mom did it my brother did it my
00:02:13.540 dad it was like early days early days of 23andme yeah now they all have now they have the
00:02:19.220 unalterable rights to all our genetic code.
00:02:21.440 We weren't thinking creatively enough at that point.
00:02:24.060 I can't spell.
00:02:26.080 Anyways, what are we
00:02:27.360 talking about?
00:02:29.060 What if we just hang out
00:02:31.320 and we just chill?
00:02:33.580 What if we just do a chill stream?
00:02:35.340 We're not allowed to do that, though, Jack.
00:02:37.020 We have a job to do, Jack.
00:02:37.980 We have thought crimes.
00:02:40.420 We're not allowed to chill because
00:02:42.160 our first topic, Jack,
00:02:44.180 our first topic is about the ick, and everyone knows 1.00
00:02:46.300 that women get the ick the most 0.83
00:02:48.140 from men just chilling out and relaxing it drives them absolutely unhinged and so you decided to 0.99
00:02:54.480 turn the tables jack i did what did you say what is a male ick yeah you see jackass just like 0.97
00:03:01.960 listening to liberal women whine about well no so no i so i mean that could be an example of one 0.76
00:03:08.320 right so we women came up with this thing called the ick recently you know a couple years ago i
00:03:14.720 know and they said oh you know this gives me the ick or this about this guy gives me the ick and
00:03:20.720 and it's been this this phrase you know that comes along and so i wanted to say okay you know i've
00:03:27.520 been listening to this for years now and it's time for the fellas to have a turn have a run if you 1.00
00:03:34.160 will a run for the ring or run for the trophy and i said gentlemen what about women gives you the 0.99
00:03:41.360 male ick what produces the ick in men i got one women do behavior or uh uh physical accoutrements 0.88
00:03:52.660 if you will uh and let me just say this thing went viral viral literally just one tweet and
00:03:59.400 popped off i love by the way how could i just say real quick before we get into it that none of the
00:04:03.860 guys required any explanation from my on my behalf of about like what exactly i was talking about
00:04:09.960 they were all just like they immediately just popped in and started answering all right
00:04:14.260 who wants to go first i feel like i i would be irresponsible going first so i've got one when 0.98
00:04:20.980 they have a penis okay i mean that's that goes without saying okay but have you encountered 0.98
00:04:27.600 that in real life no okay this is a true story so i'm at a bar this didn't happen to me it was 0.99
00:04:33.560 my roommate at the time i was living in uh california and we went out to a bar in santa
00:04:38.260 monica and we're all hanging out and actually my wife was with me so i was i was married at this
00:04:44.120 point so it was post roommate but he was my roommate one time and anyways so we go to this 0.73
00:04:48.960 bar and he comes to me he looks at me directly goes that woman right there is the most beautiful 0.98
00:04:54.420 woman i have ever oh no and this is where it gets really weird uh the it was a tranny just to get 0.98
00:05:03.560 ahead of it and and it turns out that the tranny was uh engaged to a dude and they were both 0.84
00:05:11.260 canadian so it all made sense he thought that the transgender person was the most beautiful 0.68
00:05:15.860 woman he'd ever seen it was a very female looking man at that point i don't know how long they were
00:05:22.240 on uh hormone therapy but once once you knew once you knew you're like oh okay i see it okay but
00:05:30.300 then if you could see it it was dark admittedly and that was the most beautiful woman you've ever
00:05:34.440 seen i remember looking at him going like bro he's just he went ghost white he went ghost white and
00:05:43.020 uh yeah i i'm not gonna mention is there something that gives you the ick from
00:05:47.920 something that doesn't have a y chromosome okay yes what gives me the ick actually is uh women
00:05:53.820 shouting their abortions that's not good that's definitely that's definitely pretty good right
00:05:58.200 that's pretty good all right russ you you recently yeah my ick was definitely uh in my past
00:06:03.460 past relationship um anytime she lost her vape she started like freaking out like and it's just
00:06:10.360 so at that point i was just like anybody who's like who was just like connected to the fruity
00:06:16.260 pacifier that was like it was a it was a vapes in general kind of give me the ick with women 0.75
00:06:21.600 yeah yeah yeah anything uh i'll throw i mean i'll throw out a couple that came out 1.00
00:06:27.540 um in my sort of impromptu poll so a big big one was septum piercing nose piercings in general
00:06:34.720 that came out a lot that's a big one they're saying they're saying women with the like women
00:06:39.960 have just gotten like gone overboard with tattoos uh was a big one but one thread or i should say
00:06:47.000 common theme that i encountered was and this wasn't trans necessarily but more of like a learned
00:06:54.760 behavior was sort of the theme of like women acting like men women acting masculine so uh cursing
00:07:04.200 binge drinking uh dropping their voices to a lower register when they speak vocal fry i think 0.95
00:07:11.320 all of these different things that women have been doing lately and you kind of get what i'm 1.00
00:07:15.580 putting out too actually you know what i mean and it just it just it gives the ick it's like 0.99
00:07:20.460 why are they why are female athletes uh you know and other people and they when they talk you know
00:07:27.560 they just really uh you know let's really uh put it out there and put it out on the field you know 0.99
00:07:32.940 and it's like why are you doing that like why are you talking like that i don't know many women like
00:07:36.820 i'm not sure i've encountered very interesting uh like you have dated yeah i've dated uh
00:07:41.700 definitely definitely i would endorse all the septum piercing ones that one's always really
00:07:46.420 bothered me um i i always just think of the the intrusive thought i always have with septum
00:07:53.860 piercing is i imagine it getting caught on something and then you're hooked on it like
00:07:58.100 that and that's it rips and like it could rip out like i think about that it really bothers me
00:08:03.140 and i can't get that visual out of my head so it like always viscerally upsets me to see that i
00:08:08.500 don't even like the ones on the side that those are really common now like they'll get the really
00:08:11.540 thin ring on the side of their nose i really don't care for those either and those are really common
00:08:16.820 now uh calf tattoos uh all i'm in general you guys are we've had the tattoo debate we've had
00:08:23.620 the tattoo debate before you don't have to get specific no but like specifically i will say one
00:08:27.780 i haven't heard yet usually the women that get those have like the really like muscular calves 0.99
00:08:31.620 one i will say for sure uh is like too many muscles too many muscles i would say 0.99
00:08:38.180 like if they're obviously inebriated i'm saying like the binge drinking uh or not even puking
00:08:44.300 just like when they're really out of it like it's actually it's not it's not pleasant to see i
00:08:48.720 totally in general that's unpleasant but it actually goes to that masculine behavior when
00:08:53.140 they swear too much oh swearing too much right uh being nasty to someone i see mentioning here
00:09:00.560 being nasty to wait staff that's something that's really off-putting uh something something weird
00:09:06.200 that i've encountered uh most of these are not stuff that i've actually encountered dating but
00:09:10.040 one that i have is where they'll like brag about doing manipulative or machiavellian behavior
00:09:19.100 i've encountered this and i i didn't understand what it was trying to communicate because it kind
00:09:24.100 of just sent the message like i did something evil and got away with it and i i could not 0.93
00:09:29.260 understand why that would be appealing and you think that's just a female trait i don't know
00:09:32.920 that it's a female trait but it's a trait that's that's i hate to say but that's that's pretty 0.99
00:09:40.520 i think men that's pretty baseline that men are equally machiavellian behavior i know women are
00:09:46.780 much better at that sort of thing i think that's totally a woman thing women men men are
00:09:52.400 confrontational in terms of their you know their their interactions and disagreements men are
00:09:58.180 confrontational whereas women who lack the physical strength of men uh become less confrontational 0.83
00:10:04.440 and they become more subversive right so subversion uh manipulation like these these are all you know 0.98
00:10:10.880 using use there's even a term for it feminine wiles right uh these are these are the female
00:10:15.760 uh strategies for uh you know for success or destroying their enemies you know that's it's
00:10:23.920 kind of like the old adage you know when they say like you know if women were president we'd have no 0.99
00:10:28.120 wars and i'm like you're right because they would have like nuked the entire planet and there would 0.96
00:10:32.680 be no wars to fight women there was there were studies on that where um because we have a good
00:10:41.640 we have a good case study in the sense of the of the united kingdom where obviously there's been
00:10:46.440 many kings and queens that goes back hundreds of years over a thousand years and um when i forget
00:10:53.880 the exact number but uh percentage but it did actually come out and i want to say it was a
00:10:58.200 cambridge study something like that where when england had a queen they were more predisposed
00:11:05.240 to go to war than when they had a king that this is actually borne out if you look at british history
00:11:11.480 i could believe that queen's more likely to go to war than kings a kind of creepier one you know 0.73
00:11:16.120 we've covered like fgm female genital mutilation which they do in fundamentalist societies and
00:11:21.960 And they've actually studied basically how enthusiastic people are about that. 0.53
00:11:26.920 And it's like old women doing it to younger women who are like the most aggressive in like mutilating them and like messing them up. 0.97
00:11:33.500 That all tracks. 1.00
00:11:37.920 So all that gives the ick.
00:11:39.780 Caboose.
00:11:40.260 Yeah, Caboose.
00:11:41.460 Now I've definitely got the ick.
00:11:45.160 Hey, gentlemen.
00:11:46.060 I'm trying to see, but I want to get some good ones in the chat, too.
00:11:49.460 Hold on.
00:11:49.880 Caboose is giving us his take. 1.00
00:11:52.100 Yeah, my ick is sorority girls 1.00
00:11:53.640 because they get sort of that mob mentality 1.00
00:11:56.000 where they just don't think rationally
00:11:58.480 when they're together.
00:12:00.100 That's basically based on my experience
00:12:02.020 from working on a college campus. 1.00
00:12:04.660 So just girls when they're in groups. 0.99
00:12:07.060 Girls in groups. 1.00
00:12:10.060 Caboose is endorsing Islamic principles. 1.00
00:12:12.480 They should be in their hijab, in their home, 1.00
00:12:14.360 not allowed to congregate in groups. 1.00
00:12:16.120 No, I did not say that.
00:12:17.160 Stop it.
00:12:17.920 back up so so i saw a really good one there was a great interaction lower down the thread and i had
00:12:25.040 to retweet it because somebody just you know one follower of mine that said constantly dragging any
00:12:31.360 conversation to be about them to which someone to which a woman replied and said woman here
00:12:37.840 a man using the phrase gives you the ick gives me the ick and he just wrote case in point
00:12:43.920 case in point we're not talking about you for five seconds well that gives me the air hold on again
00:12:54.000 i just want to say i just want to say you know i do think there is kind of like a theme right now
00:13:00.320 with like woman bashing within the conservative movement and it's probably not okay some of it is
00:13:07.860 very much deserved but i want to bring the the sexes back together i want to i want us to find 0.87
00:13:12.840 harmony uh you know in god's design i don't want us to always be this gender war thing if you jack
00:13:19.440 you've experienced this too i'm sure like with like turning point students they all like the
00:13:23.160 men hate the women and the women hate the men and they're just like at each other's throats
00:13:26.680 it's not good it's not good how do we fix this there's the the way you fix it is is ultimately
00:13:34.740 ultimately the enemy is the enemy here is modern feminism the enemy is actually modern feminism
00:13:43.040 which is completely not conservative it is not trad it is not lindy it is this idea that that
00:13:50.140 pushes women into male roles and completely distorts the traditional gender roles of society
00:13:57.940 and a lot of the stuff that we talk about is like this and a lot of this a lot of the issues that
00:14:04.440 we have described here even on this program for years at this point all come back from this and
00:14:10.780 it's we are surrounded and we are inundated with feminist propaganda from anytime you walk into a 0.86
00:14:17.140 library as a little kid to when you go to school to when you go to Hollywood so you're just 1.00
00:14:22.580 constantly surrounded by you know women can do anything women are uh you know yes she can and
00:14:28.200 all of this stuff whereas young men and as someone who has two boys that you know you don't see any
00:14:34.300 of these types of programs for, oh, we're going to help young boys get into STEM or we're going
00:14:39.900 to help young boys have a track up. So, you know, we do have to acknowledge, I think, that we live
00:14:44.960 in a society that is governed very much by girl boss, longhouse feminism. And until we deal with 0.86
00:14:52.800 that and be able to wrestle that down into a place where women are told once again that actually 1.00
00:15:00.320 that's not good for you and it's not going to give you the outcomes that you want you're going 0.93
00:15:04.700 to continue to see these conflicts but also go to men and say look just because you're upset with
00:15:09.400 women and just because you're upset with women the way they are you also have to understand that
00:15:13.480 doesn't that doesn't mean that we should go and bash women and uh you know trash them and all
00:15:18.260 the rest of it it just means that you have to be good men as well or else you you know you're just 0.78
00:15:24.580 going to have the separation of the sexes and you're going to have it turn into a situation
00:15:28.580 that we call the end of society so i had andrew wilson on we did like a long interview
00:15:33.700 for those who don't know andrew he's like a debater and he's like really good at logic
00:15:38.640 orthodox guy really fascinating guy actually does does a lot of stuff what's that his wife
00:15:45.240 rachel wilson has been like yeah no exactly no they're like they're like the power couple
00:15:49.200 anti-feminist power couple they both have done rogan and stuff like that so anyways uh he was
00:15:54.560 you know he was kind of like grilling down on like what i thought uh and about different things it
00:15:59.560 was it was interesting i was doing the same to him but you know basically what it comes down to is
00:16:03.360 the probably the most important issue is fertility and making sure americans can like achieve the
00:16:10.100 american dream affordability all this stuff but like fertility like we got to get fertility rates
00:16:14.380 up like hungary's tried this everyone's trying everybody's trying to i mean do you know south
00:16:19.660 korea is under one now oh they're like on nine they're like under point eight they're like at
00:16:23.560 point seven or south korea is actually under north korea yeah north korea has a higher birth rate 0.96
00:16:29.300 than south korea which is nuts anyways basically the whole darn thing the whole citizen or you
00:16:36.320 know civilizational project comes down to like can we create enough babies but blake has been 0.96
00:16:40.460 white pilling me on this no racial uh connotations at all but it actually is kind of like a white
00:16:47.320 pill right we like white americans our fertility rates are bouncing back what's interesting is
00:16:53.440 when you look at who's holding together what's actually crashing is kind of the third world
00:16:59.000 is crashing because they're getting basically fried by smartphones and tiktok but what's 0.86
00:17:04.260 holding up is kind of who we'd most want to have kids like married couples who are upper middle
00:17:10.780 class they're like ideologically more pro having kids they're more they're telling their kids to
00:17:16.480 get married and to have kids and like they're continuing to do so and some of them it's even
00:17:19.920 rising and so i'm kind of my optimistic long-term take is basically midwest nationalism that we're
00:17:26.400 just gonna have people like my siblings who are all married off all having kids now and like
00:17:30.580 they're going to have kids and they're going to have you know my cousins are all having kids i
00:17:34.480 think they're the future of america is going to be these like middle class just pumping out four
00:17:40.940 five kids let's go well i was just hanging out in colorado with four couples and over the last
00:17:47.080 weekend and there was 12 kids and a 13th on the way pretty dang good you know i mean it was just
00:17:53.120 like everybody's having a lot of kids that's what i'm saying exactly it was absolute pandemonium
00:17:57.320 okay so jack you know how our women's leadership summit always like draws controversy you know
00:18:03.900 like every year no never women's leadership never it was like i remember charlie talked about this
00:18:09.560 He's like, we've been doing this event for, like, nine, ten years,
00:18:11.800 and, like, nobody ever – it was never, like, a big deal.
00:18:13.980 Everybody's like, I'm so glad you're getting the women together.
00:18:16.080 And then all of a sudden it got, like, controversial.
00:18:18.420 Like, something about women and leadership in the same sentence,
00:18:20.900 it was like – it just, like, triggered online dudes.
00:18:24.200 I'm going to play a clip that CNN did about the Women's Leadership Summit,
00:18:30.040 and let's – I want to hear from all the dudes here, including you, Caboose. 0.87
00:18:34.040 Did these women pass the test? 1.00
00:18:36.920 Did they pass the test, the man test? 1.00
00:18:39.560 SOT 16. 1.00
00:19:09.560 to me were that women can do it all. 1.00
00:19:12.560 And how do you see that as different from feminism? 0.99
00:19:15.880 Good question, that is a great question. 0.63
00:19:18.180 I feel like feminism is the pursuit of, 0.99
00:19:22.160 I need nobody and I don't need a man, I don't need others.
00:19:25.940 I feel like the left is so focused on feminism equals abortion
00:19:29.040 and that's like not at all what feminism should be for.
00:19:32.540 It should just be like, how can we empower women 1.00
00:19:34.420 to fulfill what they feel like their calling is?
00:19:36.680 lot of the left say that they don't need men but we do did they pass i was pretty good that was
00:19:46.620 pretty good right uh because because ultimately like brigitte bardot right um when you know the
00:19:52.900 great french actress rest in peace um that when she when she was asked once are you a feminist
00:19:58.360 she replied no because i like men too much and and that really is bardo hated she had one child 0.98
00:20:05.380 and hated it and was estranged from her own child and that would definitely give me bigot
00:20:09.220 there's another clip here say she's a great mother or something what i'm saying is 1.00
00:20:13.220 she understood that that at the root of feminism is the hatred of men and that that's that all of
00:20:21.620 this like equality of the sexes and empowerment stuff that they talk about is actually just 0.99
00:20:26.220 window dressing in the same way that like most social justice programs are in that it's it's
00:20:31.580 actually um you know a thinly veiled you know patina on resentment and envy whereas like yeah
00:20:38.820 you can have empowered women and you can have successful women but without the the misandry 1.00
00:20:44.440 let's try one more clip it goes on i want to see does do the turning point women at women's
00:20:50.900 summit pass the man test it's not 17. speaker savannah stone is a married 21 year old who's
00:20:58.760 built an audience advocating for traditional gender roles in a sometimes provocative way. 0.97
00:21:04.100 Submission gets a bad rep because it's seen as slavery for whatever reason. But submission is 0.85
00:21:10.940 a trust and it's teamwork. It means the woman serves the husband and the husband lays down his 0.70
00:21:15.400 life for the wife because women are controlled by their emotions and men are controlled by logic. 0.72
00:21:19.920 She goes viral a lot on TikTok for talking about women submitting to their husbands, 0.93
00:21:24.400 being submissive. What do you think of that? I mean, that's what the Bible calls us to do.
00:21:28.640 so that's what i think is true the words sound kind of crazy and a little controversial
00:21:33.920 but i mean i believe what the bible says and i think what's true and i think she said it great
00:21:39.760 in there did it did these women pass the ick test did cnn pass the ick test they made it sound like
00:21:47.340 a crime like a true crime i know like did you hear the music in the background it was like
00:21:51.020 yeah yeah like trying to make it kind of like or like like uh who wants to be a millionaire and
00:21:57.500 it's like the final ending it's like is that your final answer and they're like yeah the bible says
00:22:01.440 submit so we should submit it i thought it was pretty dang good thought it was pretty dang good
00:22:06.180 i was proud of these women did they did well do we have another one oh wow we have another i don't
00:22:11.760 know if we need to play it or not but it's up to you guys are we are people liking this caboose
00:22:16.880 should we play another one uh go for it i'd say these women passed the egg test just by being at 0.99
00:22:21.960 a turning point usa event well there you go good point sure i love that all right sod 18 last one 1.00
00:22:26.740 Obviously, if we didn't think women should be able to vote, we wouldn't be standing here trying to work in politics. 1.00
00:22:37.600 Why do you think it's getting traction right now?
00:22:39.800 Honestly, I would say from a liberal perspective of we don't need men has made men so angry.
00:22:44.940 It's harder for men to get a girlfriend.
00:22:46.780 It's harder for them to get married. 1.00
00:22:48.080 Women don't want to get married now. 1.00
00:22:49.460 And I think that's why a conservative movement has pushed so much back on the word feminism.
00:22:53.380 is because they feel like women are quote unquote ruining everything which we're not that's not true
00:22:58.340 so a feminist might say hey you guys are dealing with these really angry young men online like
00:23:04.740 incels the andrew tates the whatever you guys need feminists right now to defend you and to defend
00:23:11.460 your dignity as a person what would you say to that i would say it's all about how we approach 1.00
00:23:15.940 it though i think by screwing me back at them isn't going to help oh my gosh knocked it out 1.00
00:23:22.340 of the park that last answer right there she's trying to she's trying she's getting she's loading
00:23:27.860 up everything she's like what about andrew tate what about this what about the internet what about
00:23:31.540 incels whatever and she just goes like well why if we're just nasty back then isn't that just
00:23:37.780 going to make the situation worse amazing yeah amazing genuinely like i was floored by this 1.00
00:23:43.380 and i i mean the music is makes it sound so ominous look at these crazy women at this
00:23:48.500 conservative by the way one one insight that i have though is we should all point out that this 1.00
00:23:55.060 as as it's a turning point event you have to imagine that this is a room full of women that
00:24:00.600 have watched hours upon hours of charlie kirk on campus and there was no one better ever at turning
00:24:08.340 around a gotcha question than charlie kirk and so now you're seeing the charlie effect that when
00:24:13.720 these when you try gotcha questions on turning point kids don't work it don't work it's kind
00:24:18.480 of like racism when they would like hurl racism yeah everyone's just like yeah they'll say like
00:24:22.000 that's racist doesn't work anymore yeah we had we had to like build up antibodies i'm telling you
00:24:25.720 you could track the political discourse in the overton window in this country just based on like
00:24:31.220 what antibodies have we developed recently to the liberal malaise and the accusations they hurled at
00:24:36.960 us and it's funny because you'll see other ones fade so we've got very good we've gotten very good
00:24:40.780 at suppressing the you know racism label but now we need antibodies i think against old-fashioned
00:24:46.540 socialism yeah that now everyone's like oh what if we team up about the socialists against wokeness
00:24:51.940 no don't do it it is funny we have kind of come full circle you brought up charlie jack and it's
00:24:57.620 like how did turning point start it was socialism sucks and now we gotta like we gotta deal with it 0.98
00:25:03.580 again gotta remind everyone and by the way who are the most likely to be socialists crazy women 0.96
00:25:08.520 with septum piercing young women were always the most enthusiastic uh members of the party 0.94
00:25:15.660 yep and it's not working out so well for for new york they're gonna drive away all the productive
00:25:22.500 people if you are a business if you are an entrepreneurial person right now and you just
00:25:26.820 happen to be coming up let's say in queens you're coming up through the ranks you're like i got this
00:25:31.880 great idea you're not gonna do it in new york if you can help yourself you're gonna get the hell
00:25:36.020 out you're gonna go to florida or whatever i don't know you go somewhere go go like this this happens
00:25:43.600 in california all the time by the way it's just like people are have these businesses they might
00:25:47.560 grow them a little bit but once they get to any size that they're making any money and they're
00:25:51.180 paying any kind of taxes they'll move to arizona texas anyways that's kind of not our topic we 0.97
00:25:55.840 have another female topic we have we have multiple women topics so we could talk about artificial 0.94
00:26:00.120 wombs or we could talk about 100 women i mean we did make you take the test we're making russ
00:26:06.340 take the test right now 100 women 100 women all right this is a fun challenge we've made everyone
00:26:11.980 do over the past
00:26:13.620 couple of days, and Russ is doing it right now.
00:26:16.040 It was not a fun challenge. This was stupid. 1.00
00:26:18.540 This is an amazing challenge. 1.00
00:26:19.660 It was great. There was a challenge.
00:26:21.640 Someone said online, basically,
00:26:23.540 they're daring everyone, can you name 0.52
00:26:25.620 100 real women,
00:26:28.000 living or historical,
00:26:29.620 and then some hero made a literal app
00:26:31.540 you can go to. If you search 100 women game, 0.75
00:26:33.640 you'll probably find it. It was so hard.
00:26:35.320 It's stressing me out. My palms are sweaty.
00:26:38.060 How far are you?
00:26:38.920 I'm at 21.
00:26:39.680 we're at 28 minutes and 50 seconds
00:26:42.680 and I got 41 out of
00:26:44.360 100 how many minutes
00:26:46.320 I got 28 minutes
00:26:47.860 I started it as this
00:26:50.580 as we started the podcast
00:26:52.200 it took me
00:26:53.840 18 minutes I'm trying
00:26:56.360 I don't know why I'm blanking on that
00:26:58.300 let's bring up the different results here
00:27:00.380 and we're also sending it to Caboose
00:27:02.420 he's got to start taking it but
00:27:04.220 do we have
00:27:06.220 let's see Andrew's list in here
00:27:08.180 I've got to look at yours
00:27:09.300 uh i mean so the whole premise of this is that it's easier to name 100 men than 100 women which
00:27:15.040 is now now hold on hold on no no one of the rules was that it it yes has to be real women but it
00:27:22.300 also has to be like notable women and i believe uh the rubric that they used was do they have a 0.89
00:27:28.500 wikipedia page yeah so pretty good that's a pretty reasonable standard there's a lot of wikipedia
00:27:32.600 pages andrew you took 18 minutes and 10 seconds right so it's not like it's not like you're
00:27:39.100 you're naming just like like you can't just name women you know right like we got my mom they have
00:27:43.760 to be notable women right so like actresses singers politicians women of history you know
00:27:48.960 has a wikipedia page kind of women i'm actually like i'm actually good with mine i just so i
00:27:54.100 started off with sarah palin whoopie goldberg hillary clinton jasmine crockett aoc and then i
00:28:00.240 I got so stuck that eventually I just started doing all the conservative women I could think of.
00:28:06.040 That's a fair way to do it. 0.85
00:28:07.200 Yeah, I did Elise Stefanik, Helen Andrews, Ann Coulter, Caroline Leavitt, Anna Paulina Luna, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Dana Perino, Dana Lash, Phyllis Schlafly, Martha McCallum.
00:28:18.260 I mean, I just, I think I hit them all, basically.
00:28:20.360 No, please continue.
00:28:21.480 Keep going. 0.96
00:28:22.500 Oh, Phyllis Schlafly.
00:28:23.900 I'm still plugging away at 44.
00:28:25.920 Who do you have here?
00:28:27.160 uh event eva lily i don't know who that is courtney cox zendaya yeah i got laura bush
00:28:36.480 jenny just one name karana okay whatever cole i did i am i got erica kirk at number 11
00:28:43.500 i got her just after tulsi and joan of arc all right i'm looking at mine i did mine in uh
00:28:50.760 seven minutes i did the supreme court justices like i did all the females on the supreme court
00:28:55.600 But then I forgot Elena Kagan, Sona Sotomayor, 0.99
00:28:58.200 Tommy Brown Jackson.
00:28:59.320 That's what's crazy. You start doing this, and you literally space
00:29:01.700 who's the woman on the Supreme Court
00:29:03.920 that Trump picked. You totally forget.
00:29:06.000 I did mine in about seven minutes.
00:29:08.320 My first woman was Caitlyn Jenner,
00:29:10.160 which I'm pretty proud of. They accept Caitlyn Jenner
00:29:12.000 as a woman.
00:29:13.480 And then 100% organically,
00:29:15.560 I'm not making this up.
00:29:17.860 My 99th and 100th,
00:29:19.940 I was like, okay, going through history.
00:29:21.260 I had a bunch of historical ones, and I was like,
00:29:23.000 World War II women, Anne Frank, and then 100% 0.53
00:29:25.080 was Ava Braun, which was Hitler's flag. 1.00
00:29:27.300 Oh, gosh.
00:29:27.880 Oh, gosh.
00:29:28.320 My 100th was Kim Reynolds.
00:29:30.200 Oh, gosh.
00:29:30.800 I had, but yeah, you'd go, I would go, like, okay, first lady, so it was just, you could
00:29:33.960 see him here.
00:29:34.640 Abigail Adams, Laura Bush, Barbara Bush, Melania Trump, Nancy Reagan, Pat Nixon.
00:29:38.000 You did yours in, like, seven minutes, though.
00:29:39.540 Yeah.
00:29:40.160 And I would just, I would just go through a bunch of topics.
00:29:41.480 I would do athletes, so I have, like, Mia Hamm, Hope Solo, Brandi Chastain, she's the
00:29:45.240 one who made that shootout goal and took her jersey off.
00:29:47.720 I was seven.
00:29:48.380 I was under eight minutes.
00:29:49.300 I was seven something.
00:29:50.480 I had, I had all six of Henry VIII's wives.
00:29:54.060 Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, Anne of Cleves,
00:29:56.300 Jane Seymour, Catherine Howard.
00:29:58.540 Yeah, but did you get Dolly Parton?
00:29:59.700 Catherine Parr.
00:30:00.900 I didn't.
00:30:01.660 I actually got Dolly Madison, but not Dolly Parton,
00:30:05.460 which is pretty funny.
00:30:07.020 I got Nicki Minaj and Cardi B.
00:30:09.580 They accept saints, by the way,
00:30:10.920 so you can just be like St. Lucie, St. Agatha, St. Mary,
00:30:13.340 Mary Magdalene, Salome. 1.00
00:30:14.800 Biblical women is a good way to go. 1.00
00:30:16.220 I didn't think of saints. 1.00
00:30:16.780 Saints would have been great.
00:30:18.100 Yeah, tons of saints. 1.00
00:30:18.840 What actresses did you get? 1.00
00:30:20.360 Let me see here. 1.00
00:30:21.580 I think I had Nicole Kidman.
00:30:22.780 i got her i had natalie portman meryl streep uh nicole kidman uh beyonce ella langley and then i
00:30:30.140 started oh i got sandra bullock angelina jolie jennifer lawrence i hope all of you i hope all
00:30:36.100 of you have erica kirk she's accepted i got i she was my she was number 11 for me she was 63 for me
00:30:42.540 i got to the politics ones a bit later i i so i am insane enough that after caitlin jenner which
00:30:46.700 was funny i literally went historical so i thought who's the most ancient woman i can think of so i
00:30:51.080 had Hatshepsut who was the first female pharaoh of Egypt and then I did Cleopatra and then who did
00:30:57.340 you get who'd you get Jack I had some my hundreds was Melania um I didn't do like actresses I I
00:31:05.700 stuck with more like politics so I was I was doing like a bunch of like those you know how like in
00:31:10.000 the EU there's a bunch of like um you know uh female leaders so yeah I did Ursula von der Leiden
00:31:16.880 i did kaya callas i did um uh sana marin did you get liz truss the cabbage queen what what was
00:31:24.440 your most obscure what was your most obscure name most obscure i wish they gave us that data
00:31:32.000 i i did i did like i mean i have a few like diane feinstein madeline albright i think my
00:31:39.360 most obscure get eyeballing this list i think my most obscure one has to be pulcheria who was
00:31:44.460 uh a virgin empress of the roman empire in the 400s i see i was doing like maizey hirono and
00:31:50.860 like k ivy and i was just going through like governors and senators and stuff i got all three
00:31:56.140 bronte sisters that's a good that's a good one uh three pete if you know all of them i don't know
00:32:00.180 charlotte bronte i was thinking about it i could have done emily bronte did wuthering heights and
00:32:04.940 then you got to have ann bronte who did i'm sure something really nice if you're into that sort of
00:32:08.840 like do you know the uh do you know charlie soong and the soong sisters i knew i know the thune
00:32:13.540 sisters i don't i couldn't remember their names off the top of my head yeah yeah so it was like
00:32:18.380 one is married to sunyat sen one was married to shankai shek i okay i did carly fiorina
00:32:24.160 suck on that carly fiorina wow all righty i don't know why it popped into my head i had uh i had
00:32:31.240 matahari the only famous female spy in history it took wasn't matahari her code name yeah they 0.96
00:32:37.320 they take if it's their wikipedia name which i think she's there as whatever the wikipedia name
00:32:41.720 is okay what about usha vance i didn't get moosh advance i got usha i didn't put ush advance i got
00:32:48.220 usha i didn't put that uh i did a i later did a bonus list just to see if i could do first name 0.85
00:32:53.100 my first name was caitlin jenner okay what was your first name jack erica ah suck up i i think
00:33:00.620 sarah palin for some reason why sarah palin who's yours because when i eventually oh yeah 0.51
00:33:07.320 for some reason when i thought like okay notable women who have a wikipedia and i was just like
00:33:12.280 okay erica like because i was i was starting it with like i'm like a concentric circles guy like
00:33:16.760 i start with people that i know so like well i know her and then because then i went to the
00:33:20.840 cabinet right i had like i had like pam bondy even though she's not uh technically in the cabinet
00:33:25.240 right now tulsi etc like i went with caroline levitt like i went with people who are like
00:33:29.720 in that concentric circle of like people i'm friends with people i work with people i know
00:33:34.680 from like politics and then like i just move my way out from there that's what i really like that's
00:33:38.620 your impulse and i think that's what a lot of people would do you went to like heavily in
00:33:42.040 conservative media and then i'm like i must go back to conservative i must go back to 5000 bc
00:33:48.220 and work my way forwards and think of who comes to mind and so i have my i had egyptians then i
00:33:53.520 had romans then i had saints then i did i jumped to first ladies then i jumped to henry the eighth
00:33:57.980 is a great idea i could i wonder if you could also almost hit i wonder how many you could get
00:34:02.740 with just saints would you have to write the word 100 but i i got about 15 and then i did from
00:34:08.720 number 65 to 100 all conservative women janine pirro joanie ernst alvita king megan mccain
00:34:16.780 kaylee mckinney mary miller katrina pearson what oh sorry no i'm just thinking of saints now
00:34:22.400 oh man i did uh it took uh i did a second list uh where my first one was actually charlotte corday
00:34:28.440 who uh was a right-wing assassin in revolutionary france you're just so and yeah i go for the
00:34:35.120 scores and then the last two i got because they both have their own pages malia obama and sasha
00:34:39.480 obama malia whatever malia malia i should have done like i should have done like more communist
00:34:45.640 women like i did get like madam madam mao uh jang ching and then like uh ulrich meinhoff and
00:34:54.000 like from the Meinhof-Bader group 0.97
00:34:56.180 and just like gone down the list.
00:34:58.060 I will know what everyone, by the way,
00:34:59.860 is that he is at 37 minutes and you have 64 names.
00:35:03.120 So you're remembering about two women a minute.
00:35:05.880 I'm trying to, I'm pulling what you all are saying
00:35:09.160 and trying to remember how to spell.
00:35:10.200 Did you do the male version, Jack?
00:35:11.780 Did you do the male version?
00:35:13.920 You do have to spell. 0.85
00:35:15.020 You do it, yeah, you have to spell right,
00:35:16.600 which is annoying. 1.00
00:35:17.640 I did the male version.
00:35:18.320 That was pretty forgiving.
00:35:19.360 The male version I could just do, 0.63
00:35:20.760 it was literally as fast as I could type
00:35:22.200 and it took me a little under six minutes.
00:35:23.700 i didn't know like they took me no there were a couple where like i missed like one like i got
00:35:28.340 an a instead of an e like i got the vowel mixed up and they wouldn't i just had to re-spell
00:35:32.220 caroline levitt like four different times yeah i found this one was pretty generous like i i like
00:35:36.520 i misspelled yeah i did like queen elizabeth the queen mother and like i misspelled mother and it
00:35:40.980 still gave it to me um i did the male version could you just do like queen victoria one queen
00:35:45.600 victoria two queen victoria three yeah you can little cheat so i did notice someone i knew did
00:35:49.620 it and they just you know there's actually many cleopatras in ancient egypt so you could do
00:35:53.900 like eight cleopatras in a row and i felt that would be yeah because wasn't wasn't the cleopatra
00:35:58.180 that ended up with mark antony is like cleopatra the eighth yeah yeah she's a late one because 0.98
00:36:02.580 it's the end of the dynasty but they all had that stupid name angela's like i did 30 female 0.88
00:36:07.140 wrestlers you can totally do that for the 100 men by the way you can literally just go well 0.98
00:36:10.700 there were 17 louis in france louis one two three four there's 47 presidents well 46 yeah but they
00:36:16.180 at least have different names they're not just louis and a roman numeral like a super bowl yeah
00:36:20.000 yeah fair enough anyway all of you should look up the name 100 women game and if you send a
00:36:25.980 screenshot to freedom at charlie kirk.com i will look at them at least i don't know if we'll ever
00:36:30.660 look at this again but let us know is it harder to name famous notable women than it is famous
00:36:35.380 notable men is that the patriarchy is that systemic oppression or is that just the way
00:36:40.580 cookie crumbles i don't know i i don't see it as uh just just speaking for myself like i i don't
00:36:48.260 see there being any difference between the naming men or naming women i think i think it was pretty
00:36:52.900 i think you will pretty quickly discover at least if you're a guy i mean maybe for women it's
00:36:57.020 different and that i'd be interested i wonder if like could daisy name 100 men before she could
00:37:01.380 name 100 women for example because daisy did fill it out and she had a lot of authors and actresses
00:37:05.840 singers that i now can women can women can women do this oh genuinely i i as soon as we started
00:37:14.280 doing this i was like this is not turning on me it does not suit my brain my brain is it's a fun
00:37:18.900 challenge it's a fun challenge everyone should take it set you can get a screenshot of your
00:37:22.800 results uh there's like a link to click it although jack didn't so we can't look at his
00:37:26.900 full list shame jack all right no i got mad because i put my wife in and it wouldn't take
00:37:31.400 tanya posobic and i got mad so i shut it down and then i didn't realize that we were supposed
00:37:34.800 a screenshot so i i really want to get to this next topic jack because you just interviewed
00:37:39.520 the director of this and that is of course yeah citizen vigilante watch that last night
00:37:45.620 on the planet so i mean as far as how good the movie is jack says it doesn't matter we've got
00:37:51.560 to tell people what it is if they're out of the loop we should play the also we should play the
00:37:54.480 trailer okay all right so i i have a i have a take on this where like i would say for what it was
00:38:01.320 going for it was perfect that's a bold trailer i believe clip number two is the trailer let's show
00:38:08.280 the truth is this you are all being used
00:38:17.720 the vigilante citizen is delivering a brand of justice that some believe the authorities have
00:38:25.100 felt to provide targeting both criminals and those in power accused of allowing crime to
00:38:30.960 flourish unchecked there's been a lot said about me so i thought you should hear directly from me
00:38:38.160 i'm here to help you take that control back the state court police see you think that they've
00:38:48.480 failed you but they haven't now they only exist to control you do you want justice
00:39:00.960 Let's get some fresh blood.
00:39:04.580 You walk down the street and you get stabbed or robbed.
00:39:08.820 He's a real hero.
00:39:10.540 We need more guys like this.
00:39:13.180 What does your country do?
00:39:15.120 Nothing.
00:39:16.000 Our current system is failing to protect our citizens.
00:39:21.500 He's like the real deal.
00:39:24.780 He's playing with us.
00:39:27.700 What if everything they ever taught you
00:39:29.960 It was utter nonsense.
00:39:40.200 We can change history.
00:39:46.780 Okay.
00:39:47.380 Okay.
00:39:48.000 Oh, yeah.
00:39:48.600 So, Blake, give the premise.
00:39:51.160 The premise of this, so it's by it?
00:39:52.680 Before we review, we should explain that, like, what this is, just for folks, if you
00:39:59.240 haven't you know that's what i was about to do jack um sort of premises are you doing the review
00:40:03.320 no yeah no the premise so the premise of this film is it's basically it's set in europe uve
00:40:09.320 bol's german although someone says we need this guy in germany so it might be set in a different
00:40:13.880 country and it's croatia croatia okay it's croatia explicitly so it's filmed in such a way that like
00:40:19.860 it kind of doesn't matter it's a european every place sort of like they have their monies and
00:40:23.960 all of that but anyway the idea we know europe has had these grooming gangs they have random
00:40:30.260 migrant stabbing attacks they have these migrants housed in hotels they have a real migrant crisis
00:40:35.020 a migrant crime crisis and the premise of this movie is that army hammer is citizen vigilante
00:40:41.100 he's a guy who he is identifying some of these uh migrant criminals who've been in grooming gangs
00:40:47.060 or have done other crimes and he is being a vigilante he is getting revenge on them taking
00:40:53.580 justice into his own hands and also not just the criminals themselves but uh the judges yeah who
00:40:59.400 are doing it and it is now it's so controversial it's it's for all intents and purposes banned in
00:41:05.080 germany they refuse to give it a rating so it can't be released in theaters you could watch it
00:41:09.000 on your home computer but it's not illegal to possess but to show it i went and uh uh which
00:41:16.300 is quite the way crazy to say illegal to possess which is actually a thing in germany um that i
00:41:21.640 went and so i interviewed the director uh this week on human events and during that interview
00:41:27.780 i actually went and just pulled up like okay like let's pull up a random movie theater in germany
00:41:33.060 and see which films are being shown uwe bull and it was like obsession which of course we talked
00:41:38.740 about last week which is incredibly violent uh the the odyssey which again is a war movie like
00:41:45.540 all war movies are very very violent django unchained um was doing some kind of remake or
00:41:51.500 not remake like a re um you know a replay of that re-showing and which again one of the most violent
00:41:58.420 films ever made which is uh some to be said for the fact that it's quentin tarantino and all of
00:42:02.940 his movies are are famously ultra violent um and and so you can imagine just all of those films
00:42:08.720 perfectly fine to be shown in germany and of course by the way the punisher is also available
00:42:14.440 on disney plus germany right now which is literally a vigilante film about a guy who kills criminals
00:42:20.780 all right so here i think is one of the reasons it's getting banned in germany this is a pretty
00:42:27.000 viral clip from the film this is when army hammer who has been canceled himself uh they they call
00:42:35.740 him a cannibal i'm told that that's reliably untrue he was just a talk just talk he was he was
00:42:42.120 he was uh he was a famous rich hollywood actor that enjoyed women let's just be honest
00:42:49.760 yeah anyways i'm not here to defend army hammer but he is the he is the lead here so let's play
00:42:55.400 this clip sat six so i guess you're wondering why i'm here
00:43:00.320 are here because of my son because of the court
00:43:06.660 the court free him and this is the court from your country of course because your son and his 0.91
00:43:15.780 friends had to rape that 14 year old girl so traumatized from their childhood that they 0.99
00:43:20.780 couldn't keep their dicks in their pants he's young he don't know nothing 0.99
00:43:26.300 is that why you did it yusuf i'm sorry i'm sorry we did that we thought she wanted it now she lives 0.99
00:43:35.740 every single day afraid of what you and your friends might do since you were acquitted.
00:43:42.920 It was very good work by your attorney, by the way, painting them as the victim.
00:43:47.580 What was it? Traumatic integration? 0.51
00:43:51.340 We're really getting mental health now and support.
00:43:54.600 We will be better in the future. I promise that.
00:43:57.540 It's the right answer.
00:43:58.480 the only problem is that on your social media since the event i have not seen any regret 0.95
00:44:08.240 or empathy in fact i think you said that she deserved to be raped what i mean is that they 0.99
00:44:16.680 dress wrong and just make boys horny with their mini skirts they show their legs and breasts 1.00
00:44:23.180 You wrote that she deserved it. 0.99
00:44:26.900 I will delete it.
00:44:30.600 Are these the values you're teaching your children?
00:44:33.420 I teach him the values from Quran and his values from our family.
00:44:38.720 Well, if these are your values, 0.99
00:44:41.960 that women in America and Europe deserve to be raped because of a dress code, 1.00
00:44:47.860 why did you come here? 1.00
00:44:49.180 You know that we have several wars in our country,
00:44:52.360 and we have a dangerous life.
00:44:54.660 That's why we are here.
00:44:56.860 And I think you know that.
00:44:58.220 Do you know what I think?
00:44:59.560 Why?
00:45:00.340 I don't think it was the good ones that got out of your country.
00:45:04.400 I think it was the bad ones.
00:45:05.700 And I think you brought with you your archaic value system
00:45:11.580 and your commitment to religion over democracy
00:45:15.680 and over anything else, including the rule of law.
00:45:20.100 and how does that scene end jack they do they get better as he said he's like you'll get better
00:45:27.980 they get all they are all made better they're all one happy family so i think in that scene right
00:45:33.440 they lure he goes he goes full vigilante yeah he goes they they he was luring that family and then
00:45:40.500 some of the other friends that took part in no no it's the other it's the other rapist the other
00:45:44.900 rapists yeah the other rapists and lures them in there and then you can imagine it's called
00:45:50.520 citizen vigilante and it was right they all gotta go as it's been said really intense scene
00:45:59.400 and you know watching it back i'm like wow he really went and that's what it takes to i mean 0.99
00:46:03.860 that's why the movie's going viral right now because it's like they go into the quran they
00:46:08.040 go into like you sent the bad ones i mean like this is it speaks to a a primal id and i guess
00:46:14.280 this is now where jack and i debate it because i think have all of us seen the movie at this
00:46:18.920 point yeah so all of us have watched the movie uh jack possibly at three times speed and i did
00:46:26.180 watch it at three times speed as much as i'd love to like it this is uve bull who famously makes
00:46:31.120 bad movies most of the movie's not very good uh that's probably the best scene in the movie right
00:46:36.080 there yeah the last 30 minutes it's like a b-movie action you know ride on the seat of your pants um
00:46:46.640 kind of thriller it's not meant to be like war and peace right it's not a total story it's it's
00:46:52.860 literally like we're gonna go in we're gonna throw some stuff at you that comes straight from the
00:46:57.840 headlines and by the way he told me that in his interview that we did that these crimes um they're
00:47:05.160 not just similar to certain crimes that you've seen obviously this this gang rape he's referring
00:47:10.520 to actual crimes and basing it on actual crimes that have happened across europe so he brought up
00:47:16.540 the mass rape of a 15 year old in hamburg that uh in and in that instance the judge let everyone
00:47:23.620 off they actually did not face jail time and had said oh well they were victims too victims of
00:47:29.820 society because they were not they were not allowed to fully assimilate and therefore they
00:47:34.280 were lashing out at a society that would not assimilate them. He brought up Irina Zerutska.
00:47:39.800 He brought up a number of things that have happened in the U.S. and Europe that just
00:47:44.260 literally straight from the headlines that we talk about every day. And he said, let me put that all
00:47:49.480 into a video because I feel like, and he was totally right in saying this, that there's so
00:47:54.940 many people out there that if you're not a news junkie like all of us, if you're not doing this
00:48:00.300 every day if you're not focused on it you you may not even know that all of this is going on
00:48:05.520 so an incredible way to present that and the most effective way to present that of course
00:48:09.960 is through a story through a film it was i found it legitimately jarring to watch
00:48:15.840 i i have it's a it's a gory movie i have many of the same critiques oh yeah yeah there's not
00:48:21.400 a movie for kids yeah yeah yeah yeah i guess so the bigger picture of course is this is a film
00:48:27.580 that presents vigilantism as either a solution
00:48:31.600 or at least an appealing way to go about things.
00:48:34.700 And we understand that.
00:48:35.500 Death Wish was popular for a reason as well.
00:48:37.980 So I guess what would stand out to me is
00:48:39.800 if we're going to have a viral movie
00:48:42.020 that's presenting vigilantism as a understandable response
00:48:46.980 to what's going on with migration,
00:48:48.860 I guess I wish the person was more sympathetic
00:48:52.680 because the way the character Hammer's playing
00:48:56.660 is basically kind of a psychopath like he actually you'd have he himself murders random people in the
00:49:02.440 film which i thought was very strange he does merit he does uh deal with the judges too not
00:49:08.440 just the judges but like while he's there's a scene where he's driving with a judge and he's
00:49:11.740 kind of saying like most people they just you know they're they're sheep who follow the rules
00:49:16.360 no matter what and so he drives into the wrong side of the road and makes someone else swerve
00:49:21.060 off the road and crash and their car explodes like that person's probably dead because they
00:49:24.580 want him to follow the rules so he just killed the random innocent person it's a very pro-anarchy
00:49:29.180 yeah it's like it's like an anarchist it's almost a nihilistic film in some ways let's go ahead and
00:49:33.840 play one more clip maybe the character is but i mean i'll just say having talked to him you know
00:49:39.220 he he wasn't i didn't get the sense that he was advocating for vigilantism um that's not something
00:49:46.540 that he said to me it was just more that he was thinking what would the type of person be like
00:49:52.820 if they were to become a citizen vigilante.
00:49:57.060 And the opening scene is of a migrant
00:50:01.040 stabbing a mother in front of her young son.
00:50:04.560 And it's sort of left unspoken.
00:50:06.400 I didn't actually ask him,
00:50:07.300 but it's sort of left unspoken
00:50:08.380 as to whether or not that was the origin story
00:50:10.640 of the main character.
00:50:12.100 And it could sort of be read both ways.
00:50:14.260 He does sort of talk about how his mother had been killed
00:50:16.900 and his father sent him off to boarding school in America.
00:50:18.840 And so it's I didn't take it as advocating for vigilantism, just more of like a vehicle for these types of issues to be talked about in public.
00:50:31.680 Except for the fact that part of the film was literally that they shot was they shot scenes of people on social media being like, this guy is so cool.
00:50:43.520 So that does read as it's advocating for vigilantism, which, again, if the director wasn't, quote-unquote, advocating for vigilantism, his art was sure advocating for vigilantism.
00:51:02.720 That should be fair.
00:51:04.200 We should play Sop 5.
00:51:06.020 This is him going after the judges.
00:51:07.500 Yeah.
00:51:08.200 Which, again, it's pretty hard.
00:51:13.520 Judge Reinhold, who are you?
00:51:18.520 I'm here from the chief inspector's office.
00:51:20.520 We have new information that's come to light.
00:51:30.520 It's going to be very suspicious when that turns up in your blood, isn't it?
00:51:34.520 Let's hope they don't run a toxicology report on your body.
00:51:37.520 Who knows, maybe you have a bit of a tolerance for heroin, seem to like heroin dealers anyway.
00:51:47.520 How many of them have you let back onto the street?
00:51:52.520 The laws are meant to protect the victims, right?
00:51:56.520 It's not the perpetrators.
00:51:58.520 Maybe that's when you lost your North Star.
00:52:00.520 When you started using the laws to help people, hurt people.
00:52:06.520 you know it's not just the perpetrators cause collateral damage judge it's people like you
00:52:13.580 letting people get away with rape and murder excusing their behavior letting people get away
00:52:22.080 with rape and murder six boys raped a 14 year old girl i saw your interview in front of the
00:52:31.340 courthouse saw you say that these boys just had an adjustment issue that they didn't know
00:52:39.680 how to fit into society but what you don't understand is the society that you think they 0.61
00:52:46.880 don't fit into is falling apart and dying and you are the cancer that is killing it 0.96
00:52:55.660 Our politics failed to integrate teenage migrants into our society. 1.00
00:53:02.660 Also didn't give them the help to function by our rules and our laws.
00:53:07.660 The gang rape was in a way a crime for help and structure.
00:53:12.660 Not only the young girl is the victim, they are also victims.
00:53:18.660 Because in the ring, not only the victim, also the perpetrators are getting in trouble with us.
00:53:23.660 It doesn't help the young girl if they're getting locked up now and getting their normal life for a long time denied.
00:53:33.180 That's all, gentlemen.
00:53:37.100 That was you after letting a gang of rapists free. 0.84
00:53:45.680 It is crazy.
00:53:47.120 You know, Sarah Rogers has a bunch of these crazy stories.
00:53:49.900 like she has them all memorized of all just the insane like actual true stories if you think
00:53:55.920 that's like oh yeah actually happening in europe it's actually happening i mean there's she
00:53:59.940 she's all based on true our friend she lives in new york city and they'll have cases where
00:54:04.800 a mugging has happened and mugging someone sees a mugging and they just think do i want to intrude
00:54:10.380 on this where i would have to basically like if it's for example if it's a black person mugging
00:54:14.360 a white person do i want to come in and like be the person who is fighting this person we know
00:54:19.060 how they can if there's a video of it spirals out of control and yeah daniel penny perfect example
00:54:24.820 i mean he was vindicated and yet he had to go through the harrowing experience of you've got
00:54:30.160 to count on 12 people you had the state of new york try to destroy your life because you the
00:54:36.240 person that you were choking was the wrong color i hate to say it so this is this is a european
00:54:41.880 story citizen vigilante but we should throw this graph up this is the foreign born number and share
00:54:49.640 of people living in the united states and what's really troubling about this is the number got
00:54:56.260 really high as a percentage of the total population like 1910 1920 and then it dropped down in between
00:55:03.140 1940 and 1970 down to 4.7 percent slammed the door when we hit our bicentennial that was about as
00:55:09.080 the least foreign america had ever been and then if you see the graph we are at our highest
00:55:17.300 percentage uh than at any time since 19 since 1850 to 2025 we're at almost 16 percent foreign
00:55:24.680 born and i bet that number is actually no one ever voted for never voted for it nope just no and they
00:55:30.900 say that in the film actually but you know nobody these people didn't vote for this and uh we should
00:55:35.680 mentioned by the way um you know speaking about authors the director's intent here that he does
00:55:40.060 say at the end and very first thing he said to me he said i made this film for the victims
00:55:43.960 i made this film and it says at the end this film is dedicated to the victims of rape and murder
00:55:50.600 that have been let down by the legal system and he specifically said that uh this this this is
00:55:58.500 about them this is about their experiences this is about because he pointed out in that in that
00:56:04.040 case in Hamburg which you know similar to the movie as it shows that that girl still lived in
00:56:09.580 the same neighborhood as her rapists and then when they were let out of jail that they were basically
00:56:14.420 just sent back to the same neighborhood so she still has to live with them right around the
00:56:19.000 corner every single day yeah I still don't think it reads as advocacy I think it's more just like
00:56:24.280 an exploration of like a what-if scenario kind of like Joker was a what-if scenario it's not really
00:56:30.660 a what if scenario it's literally happening well i actually i think the what if in terms of the
00:56:36.340 vigilantism and guys you know what else is super crazy it looks like elon musk saw that this film
00:56:42.560 had been banned in germany and he decided to go up on his x account and put the entire film
00:56:48.720 of citizen vigilante up there for free so it's only up for 24 hours so if you're listening to
00:56:55.400 this on saturday when the podcast goes up it's probably down right now but just amazing that
00:57:01.280 the richest man in the world is literally posting a movie like this to his x account that's a
00:57:07.120 worthwhile question let's suppose one of these grooming gangs got like a vigilante went and
00:57:14.120 they actually like killed three members of a confirmed grooming gang who we thought were
00:57:17.800 under punished how do we think people would respond to what do we think would happen
00:57:20.920 in america well it hasn't happened in america well let's say let's say in britain there were
00:57:27.360 like a migrant gang yeah like i'm i am genuinely i'm surprised that some parent hasn't maybe they
00:57:35.480 have i don't know but i don't know of a story off the top of my head of some dad that took
00:57:40.040 matters into his own hands i mean there is a famous story in the u.s uh i think jack might
00:57:44.020 remember the name but a guy whose son was like abducted kind of abducted yeah he shot him in
00:57:47.960 yeah and he shot him in the airport he was convicted but he got a very light sentence
00:57:51.320 gary pache gary have it on video yeah so he um he his son was abducted by a karate instructor who
00:58:00.880 was like oh you know he had like wormed his way into the family and it was a family that i believe
00:58:05.600 was you know you know i'm not gonna say that i'm gonna go get all the details but like he was a
00:58:09.780 trusted member of their like circle was taking the son to a uh karate tournament in california
00:58:17.360 they had lived in louisiana and basically just abducted him absconded with the son
00:58:21.860 by the time they found him he had dyed the the boy's hair and you know it spent like i want to
00:58:27.000 say like a week um and they did find him they brought his son back but when they were bringing
00:58:32.980 the the perpetrator back the karate instructor uh which is a young guy i think he was like in his
00:58:38.580 30s that the father went around all throughout town and kind of like was able to find out just
00:58:46.380 like going to bars and talking to local cops what the specific logistics would be like what flight 0.99
00:58:51.900 he was on like when it was going to land and all of this and he wore like a stupid like costume 0.97
00:58:56.920 like his his uh his uh actually actually uh that was not a costume i i've i found out because i 0.97
00:59:04.060 followed the son on twitter um that he actually said like no my dad just dresses like that like
00:59:09.580 my dad just always dressed like that oh wow it looked like he was trying to like you know go in
00:59:15.360 it looks like he was trying to like with glasses and like a trucker hat yeah and so he goes in
00:59:19.900 and they have it on video where it just goes pop and they're like why why and he just he waits for
00:59:24.780 him to walk by and he just walks up with a uh snub doze revolver and just gives him one of the
00:59:31.020 head but runs right to the temple and it's on on film and and that's it that's it like my thought
00:59:37.520 Then, by the way, the judge got let off pretty easily there.
00:59:41.180 Yeah, he did.
00:59:41.860 I think he got, like, six months or something.
00:59:43.140 They got him, they gave, it was, like, temporary insanity.
00:59:47.520 And basically, I think one of the prosecutors later went on, this was back in the 80s,
00:59:51.900 but one of the prosecutors went on to say that we don't think there's a jury anywhere in Louisiana that would convict him.
00:59:59.120 He was sentenced to, he was originally charged to second-degree murder, took a plea deal of no contest to manslaughter,
01:00:05.180 was given a seven-year suspended sentence,
01:00:08.100 five years probation,
01:00:09.700 300 hours of community service.
01:00:12.600 That's pretty light.
01:00:14.680 And I think of other things.
01:00:16.020 Have you ever heard of the in-broad daylight killing?
01:00:18.640 This was in rural Missouri,
01:00:20.600 like northwest Missouri.
01:00:22.060 Father of the century, by the way.
01:00:23.200 Father of the century.
01:00:24.540 And this was a guy who was like a local menace.
01:00:27.660 Like he kind of would do a lot of petty crime in the area. 0.99
01:00:30.140 He was a bit of a sex predator. 0.85
01:00:31.780 He kind of, I guess we would call it grooming today. 0.97
01:00:33.960 like he had a wife who he basically started a relationship when she was 14 or something
01:00:37.580 terrorized her family when they tried to get her back he would mess up their house and he like
01:00:41.800 assaulted people but could never get put away long term this was a soft on crime era and finally
01:00:46.240 locals in the community in broad daylight this is a small town in missouri so people went up to his
01:00:51.180 car and they just shot him to death dozens of likely eyewitnesses and no one ever talked
01:00:57.640 so they've never caught anyone
01:00:59.220 it's like murder on the
01:01:02.180 Orient Express right the Agatha Christie
01:01:04.380 novel there was a 0.92
01:01:05.860 German woman who
01:01:07.680 shot somebody in court I believe 0.93
01:01:10.340 yeah she shot her rapist I believe 1.00
01:01:12.080 maybe French? her child's rapist 1.00
01:01:14.080 oh yes I think he killed her child 1.00
01:01:16.000 and the video of it is like haunting
01:01:18.120 she just like goes up there and just
01:01:19.760 you can tell she's like probably never even shot a weapon
01:01:21.900 before she like tried
01:01:23.420 she probably practiced just for this moment 1.00
01:01:25.720 but she's you know the hands like all over the place it just shoots him like five times yeah 0.80
01:01:29.900 marion i think it's marion bachmeyer is uh yes so she killed klaus gabrovsky who was on trial for
01:01:37.260 the rape and murder of her daughter anna yeah and she was convicted of manslaughter and unlawful
01:01:42.260 possession of a firearm and was sentenced to six years released on probation after serving three
01:01:47.640 worth giving her a medal yeah giving her a medal yeah in that instance it wasn't like a migrant
01:01:55.240 but like there there's that crazy video uh that goes viral like every so often on on x or whatever
01:02:01.840 where it's like this migrant dude who comes in with like i think it looked like a french scene
01:02:06.280 where the mom is trying to protect the daughter have you seen that video the mom's trying to
01:02:10.460 protect the daughter and the guy's like trying to grab them out of the house but then he he gets
01:02:14.420 scared off by some noise down the street and it's caught on a ring camera oh oh yeah yeah no i know
01:02:18.780 what you're talking about yeah yeah in france yeah yeah that that video is like exactly what
01:02:24.880 uber he just grabs he just walks up and grabs her it's from like a doorstep yes oh yeah he just
01:02:31.120 walks up and grabs her and tries to like those videos in fact do you guys remember yeah this
01:02:35.920 is the story this is a story kind of peak woke biden era i want to say early 21 in south carolina
01:02:41.140 the army guy who was caught on video and he's kind of confronting the black guy in the neighborhood
01:02:45.600 he like slaps the phone out of his hand and yeah he got prosecuted for this he got like a minor
01:02:50.620 assault charge and the full background of that was that this was a guy was like he seemed mentally
01:02:55.120 unwell and he was basically a local menace and he had among other things he'd been caught like
01:02:59.780 picking up a baby and trying to walk away from with it and got caught in this case and he was
01:03:04.300 just constantly causing problems nobody would arrest him nobody would get him out of the
01:03:07.880 neighborhood people had complained to this army guy he confronts this guy is becomes a national
01:03:12.260 villain gets denounced by the biden administration they let a mob gather outside his home he has to
01:03:18.760 flee his home because there's a local mob there he actually got convicted of assault and i'll never
01:03:23.180 forget that he said he's that i regret absolutely nothing about what i did based based and so i just
01:03:29.660 i do wonder if this were to happen i feel like they would i feel like if it happened in america
01:03:33.700 today if we had an equivalent version of marion bachmeyer or uh gary plashay and maybe it was a
01:03:41.580 migrant who injured or killed or raped their kid or whatever i think they would crack down on it 0.97
01:03:46.380 harder. I think that the government would, certainly a European government, would say 0.96
01:03:50.680 we need to send a message for this. And it would be very, I don't want to bring this about, but it
01:03:55.180 would be interesting to see how that would unfold. Yeah, it's crazy. I think it would depend on the
01:03:58.780 same thing. Like California, New York, um, versus like, uh, Louisiana, Utah. Um, but, you know, uh,
01:04:10.860 Rusty, your point about Mangione, like in that case where he takes like left wing vigilantism, which is just literally assassination, that he that if you look at what they're doing on the state level and the federal level with those judges, they've been like they already took the death penalty off the table.
01:04:27.300 They've been, like, dropping charges left and right in the Maggioni case.
01:04:31.680 I mean, it's like this blue jurisdiction.
01:04:34.360 It's exactly what this movie is all about that you can see it happening right now
01:04:39.020 where a guy who clearly committed a political assassination,
01:04:43.140 he just walks up and shoots a guy in the back on the street, right?
01:04:45.900 This is obvious murder.
01:04:47.260 It's obvious done for political purposes.
01:04:49.060 And yet the judges in both of the trials, the federal level and the state level,
01:04:54.060 are, like, jumping through hoops
01:04:56.260 to try to get Mangione off.
01:04:59.100 I have that video from Bordeaux.
01:05:03.340 22 B-roll.
01:05:04.540 This just, like, freaks me out watching it.
01:05:09.840 Good lord. 1.00
01:05:10.360 So just some migrant goes, tries to grab...
01:05:12.720 Oh, look at the mother and daughter.
01:05:14.020 What in the flipping world?
01:05:15.620 Tries to grab and, like...
01:05:16.900 Yep, look at this.
01:05:18.560 Second Amendment, man.
01:05:21.220 Yeah, this is...
01:05:22.080 And I think that bus scared him off. 0.64
01:05:23.820 look at that he tries to just break down the door and grabs them both pulls them out ladies and
01:05:29.660 gentlemen situational awareness it's why we need it everybody needs it you need robust law enforcement
01:05:35.340 because you're either going to have the tyranny of criminals you're going to we and like overall
01:05:40.720 we don't like the reason vigilantism is bad is you get overall is you get and sometimes innocent
01:05:46.840 people are killed sometimes the punishment sometimes the punishment would vastly exceed
01:05:51.860 the crime but by the way then you get the rise of left-wing vigilante yeah and you get left-wing
01:05:55.560 vigilantism you get i mean you get blood feuds those are bad i mean there's a there's a lot of
01:06:00.280 vigilantism in for example in chicago where one gang is in a war with another gang those are all
01:06:05.300 effectively if you know you kill someone over a beef and they kill one of your friends over the
01:06:09.580 same beef goes back and forth forever that is why you need law enforcement that's why you need
01:06:14.620 firm law enforcement that says you know when you do a crime you will go to jail for life you will 0.81
01:06:19.620 be executed for this by the way you know what it says here the african migrant uh who attempted
01:06:25.180 child kidnapping was was released on bail after two years probably right back into france yeah 0.57
01:06:31.460 well and this is also why not only do you need not only do you need robust uh policing or and
01:06:37.960 and police sentencing but you also need you know uh to be able to carry a firearm you need to be
01:06:46.700 able to protect yourself yeah like don't worry like yes absolutely hope that the cops and police
01:06:54.560 and all of that is going to be there but situational awareness and protect yourself
01:07:00.040 like that everybody everybody needs it that's why it's in the bill of rights well and yeah and i want
01:07:05.700 to be super clear that none of us are advocating we don't want to live in a world where things like
01:07:12.100 this happen. We don't want to get to this point. We don't want to have people saying, oh, I want
01:07:17.640 to take up arms to defend my family and my neighborhood, right? That's why we have always
01:07:22.360 called for one tier of justice, not the two-tier. Keir Starmer, of course, by the way, just thrown
01:07:28.320 out of office. You know, he would have been tossed out by his party if he hadn't resigned
01:07:32.540 over a number of things, but a lot of which included migrant violence and migrant sexual
01:07:38.160 assault that he was directly involved with looking the other way on that there's no question that
01:07:42.760 played a huge role in his ouster as the like the government of england just fell over this and yet
01:07:47.440 the movie is banned in germany so no we don't want this two-tier policing we want serious policing
01:07:53.660 want people to go away and and by the way you know it's like the whole uh you know is is you know
01:08:00.100 people were talking about prison abolition too recently they're saying like oh what the right
01:08:03.360 wing case for prison abolition i'm like i can make a right wing case for prison abolition but you're
01:08:07.480 not going to like it oh yeah exactly we'll check this out so this was uh elon musk retweeting or
01:08:13.720 quote tweeting naive bukele and you see the we're talking about policing i thought of this instantly
01:08:19.120 it's a very simple concept really and he's and it's basically a graph that shows the murder rate
01:08:25.240 in el salvador right it hits a peak in about 2015 and then it just drops like a rock and you see the
01:08:30.640 incarceration rate which is the blue line shoot through the roof and that's really the i mean the
01:08:35.660 truth is it's like yeah it's it's good to be armed it's good to be vigilant it's good to be you know
01:08:41.080 head on a swivel but if you would just lock up the bad guys for sure there's like a very small
01:08:46.840 percentage of the population causes most of the damage especially for random mayhem violence on
01:08:52.420 innocent people like you know most murders it's often pointed out it's a criminal kills another
01:08:57.920 criminal and that's bad and we don't like it but it's not as likely to make someone feel terror
01:09:02.740 when they go outside right but they really don't like it they don't love the disorder of they see
01:09:07.920 shoplifters they see vandalism like aruna zarutska yeah so random random assassins it was so horrific
01:09:14.640 how random anyone who's like stabbing a random person why the uk though is so it's such a terrible
01:09:20.820 case because you mentioned keir starmer jack keir starmer apparently in his previous role before he
01:09:25.860 was prime minister i figure what the name of the role was he sent 13 000 letters you know strongly
01:09:33.600 worded letters instead of prosecutions for these pakistani rape gangs so this is so so yeah it's
01:09:40.540 really offensive when random criminals you know commit random acts of violence it's really 1.00
01:09:45.740 offensive when you refuse to prosecute them because they're migrants yep that's what's 0.82
01:09:50.640 absolutely infuriating about that case and yeah we get it here in the states too but
01:09:54.360 less under Trump thankfully but it's just yeah we make we make our point from consequences like not
01:10:01.460 not that I want to uh go much longer but there is a really cool scene that we should mention as well
01:10:07.260 where the you know it's definitely the director speaking through the character as as you know
01:10:11.560 most of the scenes are uh where he's monologuing but there's a scene where he also confronts a 0.63
01:10:16.000 couple of fair jumpers on the bus too which I really liked and he's like explaining to them 0.99
01:10:19.920 the concept that if you don't pay for your bus ticket if you're you're running around stealing
01:10:25.440 then that's going to make the cost of everything go up and then eventually maybe we won't have
01:10:31.620 those things anymore and he's like all of society will fall apart if we don't abide by these basic
01:10:38.160 rules i feel like that's way too much abstract thinking for the typical fair jumper i thought
01:10:45.120 you were going to say the weird scene uh as i call it the the autistic landlord scene i really
01:10:49.820 don't want to say more if you guys watch the movie yeah i thought it was great that he was
01:10:54.140 like i thought it was great that he was a landlord uh there's there's like a whole subplot kind of
01:10:58.220 kind of thing there were like yeah and they and and yeah some of his tenants are prostitutes so
01:11:03.300 again like they don't portray this guy as like some you know white knight he's very much not
01:11:08.880 it was the original title dark knight but then they made him take it off because the they didn't
01:11:13.740 want to get sued by warner brothers yeah i think so it's a little bit too close to batman yeah and
01:11:17.820 like there's a lot of batman you know elements here um because he like inherited a lot of wealth
01:11:22.200 from his father as well and um that uh that uh he you know he's that he's a building owner and at
01:11:29.000 one point he's uh you know he's in one of the rooms with a prostitute and is utilizing her services
01:11:34.620 and and then immediately afterwards he's like is that mold is that mold on the wall and it's just
01:11:40.620 like jack how would you know you watch it at 3x yeah yeah hold on jack i saw the movie
01:11:48.840 jack you gotta watch you got look i can understand a little bit of like you know gotta book it if
01:11:53.920 you gotta go at 1.25 speed or something 1.5 but three times speed that's really i might as well
01:11:59.960 just read the screenplay at that point my mind is so powerful it's three times faster than the
01:12:06.620 average normie out there so me watching something at 3x is like you guys watching something at 1x
01:12:11.500 i will say for this movie specifically i'll give it to him yeah 3x because it was
01:12:18.760 it was i literally went and cut a 38 minute version of this film that cuts out like a lot
01:12:26.400 of the middle and it's much better there's a there is a lot of there's a lot of slow monologuing
01:12:31.100 there's a lot of like extended sequence of just people walking or like for example when the swat
01:12:36.720 team is coming they're just like let's have 45 seconds of them running around i think i actually
01:12:42.080 think people should support the film actually buy it and if you whatever speed you want to watch it
01:12:46.600 as well yeah yeah so you can get it on amazon right and get like pay for it and you know we
01:12:53.240 should re-emphasize to everyone it is a very r-rated movie that you can get so i i went uh
01:12:58.460 I went and I bought, like, I bought five of, like, the special packages or whatever.
01:13:03.380 So you get, like, Blu-ray, signed lobby cards and a couple of other things.
01:13:08.300 I'm not sure exactly, like, what you get in the package.
01:13:10.440 And I was thinking about maybe doing, like, a giveaway, like, you show me that you paid for it.
01:13:14.860 And, like, I'll send some, like, you know, listeners a, you know, the set or something like that.
01:13:20.540 Just to do what I could to, like, you know, support the cause.
01:13:24.780 Just support the cause.
01:13:25.460 You see something like that.
01:13:26.100 We talk about economic warfare all the time.
01:13:27.680 something like this comes out and you know we had sound of freedom a couple years ago that did
01:13:31.760 really really well in the u.s and uh i think this would do well as well good sound of freedom was
01:13:37.720 a better move jack you want to take us home ladies and gentlemen as always go out there and commit
01:13:43.960 more thought crime
01:13:45.720 thought crime is death