Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - October 10, 2026


THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 145 — Public Executions? Video Turing Tests? Team Sports vs. Striver Culture?

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00:00:00.000 From the age of Big Brother.
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00:00:19.980 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard to another edition of Thought Crime Thursday.
00:00:27.180 really excited a lot of thought crime to get to also we have to get to number one uh the pre-orders
00:00:34.240 for unhumans are just blowing up on humans 2 social revolution but in addition we have a new
00:00:40.460 drop that just came out a few hours ago the entire internet is talking about it it's number well 0.86
00:00:49.700 So number one, the new drop, of course, is our new ThoughtCrime tees up at CharlieKirkStore.com.
00:00:58.380 That's not what I was going to do, guys, but we're going to go for it now.
00:00:59.620 People kept asking, so you guys had better follow through and get them.
00:01:03.120 Yeah, there was another design.
00:01:04.900 I love this one.
00:01:06.440 We could do a couple designs.
00:01:07.920 You can have like infinity t-shirt designs at this point.
00:01:10.100 I have a vision for another one, but this one is just hot off the press, Jack.
00:01:15.900 We got to wear those at AmFest.
00:01:19.700 yeah the original original thought crime shirt from from a while ago actually predates the show
00:01:24.820 if you want real thought crime lore and it was a t-shirt that we had for the human event side
00:01:30.500 and it just said commit thought crime and that was sort of like the genesis for the show the tagline
00:01:37.860 um go out there and commit more thought crime so commit thought crime is definitely sure we got to
00:01:42.580 get up so that's pretty cool but no i was gonna i was also gonna say that we're gonna have them
00:01:47.780 Where did you just say, Andrew?
00:01:48.900 Where are we going to have the shirts?
00:01:50.880 At AmFest.
00:01:52.540 Oh, AmFest.
00:01:53.800 Is AmFest coming up?
00:01:54.940 What's going on with that?
00:01:56.000 Well, I think we have the graphic.
00:01:58.040 Don't we have the graphic, guys?
00:01:59.460 Hopefully we have it.
00:02:00.340 If not, we'll just have to recreate it from first principles.
00:02:02.540 We're very bad promoters at our own events if we do not have the graphic of our events.
00:02:06.820 We had it for this morning.
00:02:07.460 They should have it.
00:02:08.480 I'm going to do a rapid-fire reading of the names.
00:02:11.720 By the way, I literally was just looking at a tweet that said,
00:02:14.820 Bannon has to go, Jack has to go, and Gates has to go.
00:02:18.040 I saw that.
00:02:18.900 That's funny, dude.
00:02:21.000 Everybody's been texting me all day saying,
00:02:23.000 why is Andrew Colvett on there?
00:02:24.840 I told the team the same.
00:02:27.220 I was like, I don't have to be there.
00:02:28.560 They sort of made me.
00:02:29.580 But it's fine.
00:02:30.880 I'm getting used to these things.
00:02:32.780 Here we go.
00:02:33.260 From top left on down, J.D. Vance, the vice president of the United States,
00:02:38.040 Erica Kirk, the CEO of Turning Point USA,
00:02:40.340 Don Trump Jr., the son of the president,
00:02:43.060 Caroline Leavitt, former press secretary,
00:02:44.460 Jesse Waters, we all know Jesse.
00:02:46.740 Franklin Graham, that's a new addition to the lineup.
00:02:49.360 Spencer Pratt, also a new addition to the lineup.
00:02:51.980 Brandon Gill, look at that.
00:02:53.780 First time, I think he might be the first, I doubt that's true, actually.
00:02:58.540 But I was going to say, the first congressman, the first time we put him on the list, made it to the second row.
00:03:04.080 Yeah, that sounds pretty plausible.
00:03:05.940 Other people have, like Franklin Graham is top, and it's the first time.
00:03:08.980 Yeah, true, true.
00:03:09.540 But I think for a congressman, this is the first time that they've ever made it to the second row.
00:03:13.760 Maybe like the highest vault of someone who just straight up was not a famous person before.
00:03:18.000 Yeah, well, he had that great line at the UT Austin event, you know, talking about Ilhan Omar.
00:03:23.700 Came up to him, cussing him out, cussing him out, cussing him out.
00:03:26.520 So vulgar. 0.99
00:03:27.460 He goes, you kiss your brother with that mouth? 0.92
00:03:29.920 So funny.
00:03:31.260 Okay, Tulsi Gabbard, Michael Knowles, Steve Bannon, Ana Polina Luna, Brandon Tatum, Riley Gaines,
00:03:37.080 Benny Johnson, Jack Poso, who we apparently are being told to take off along with Bannon.
00:03:42.420 It's not going to happen.
00:03:43.460 Sorry, guys.
00:03:44.060 And Matt Gaetz.
00:03:45.040 The main question is, why is Andrew Colvett there?
00:03:48.040 I totally agree.
00:03:49.000 Emily Austin, Nick Shirley.
00:03:50.460 All he does is post Cole.
00:03:51.340 Colvett.
00:03:51.900 Andrew Colvett.
00:03:52.680 Graham Allen.
00:03:53.400 Jeremy Boring.
00:03:54.080 Matt Gaetz.
00:03:54.760 John Doyle.
00:03:55.480 Kristen Hawkins.
00:03:56.740 James O'Keefe.
00:03:57.700 Nick Freitas.
00:03:58.520 Matt Shaw.
00:03:59.160 Third baseman for the Cubs.
00:04:00.700 And Gad Saad.
00:04:02.000 Heck of a lineup there.
00:04:03.480 I think, so one of the things, Jack, that I had to do and we had to do as a team, like
00:04:07.900 when we were looking through was look at the last year's first speaker drop this is by far and away
00:04:15.520 the most stacked first speaker drop ever for amfest so i'm very very we can go from there like we could
00:04:22.340 we could just go full like when the nfl does those countdowns of the top 100 players we just do like
00:04:27.980 the top 100 amfest attendees and like you start down at the bottom and then you just work your
00:04:33.360 way all up to the top what do you mean of the speakers yeah or something i don't know oh you
00:04:36.920 I'm just thinking of different ways we could build hype for people.
00:04:39.180 We could market it.
00:04:39.540 Countdown, yeah.
00:04:40.440 Well, and you know what's cool about this is that we're also going to have a bunch of really top, top, top debates.
00:04:47.360 Okay?
00:04:48.360 Actually, Bannon told me he's down to do a debate, so keep your eye out on that.
00:04:52.380 So that could be fun.
00:04:53.820 But we have people that are not on this list as well that are going to be doing debates.
00:04:57.440 Some of these people will be doing debates.
00:04:58.840 But it's going to be a lot of this.
00:05:00.280 I mean, because we want AmFest to be more ambitious, bigger vision than ever, bigger ideas.
00:05:06.320 talk about the things that are dominating social media
00:05:09.440 and the debates we're having there.
00:05:10.880 These are going to be IRL debates on the biggest stage
00:05:13.920 in the conservative movement.
00:05:16.440 So, Poso, you got a code, right?
00:05:19.700 Is it Poso?
00:05:20.480 Promo code Poso, Amfest.com, promo code Poso.
00:05:23.780 I am told that it is currently live.
00:05:25.980 I don't know exactly how much it gets you off, but yes, it is live.
00:05:29.840 So was it 25 or 35?
00:05:32.740 I think it's 25, yeah.
00:05:34.080 25 okay so 25 off promo code powerful promo code post so make sure you get in now because people
00:05:40.900 oh this this and andrew you know this happens with every single am fest that people sleep on it they
00:05:46.840 wait and they wait and they wait and they wait this time and then they hit me on us at the very
00:05:50.120 at the very last minute we haven't marketed this event at all and we've already got like
00:05:55.560 thousands and thousands of tickets sold so it's becoming kind of an institution you know but
00:05:59.960 I just mean at the very last minute that people yeah of course it you know they're selling like
00:06:05.000 hotcakes already but the very last minute it's like the week before the event so it's 17th to
00:06:09.180 20th of December people will always come and they'll say and they'll say Jack oh you know you
00:06:13.600 know I really meant to get tickets and you know I just I didn't know and you know what it is and
00:06:19.500 you got to get me on the list you got to get me in you got to I'll pay whatever it is I'm like guys
00:06:23.420 just buy it now like please just buy it now don't put me in that position VIP will sell out
00:06:29.820 so yes it like last year it it sold out first thing and you know it was crazy but general
00:06:38.180 admission could sell out too like last year we had to hit hit um fire code but whatever even if
00:06:42.580 even if we don't hit fire code and we can keep the ga open there's always always a last minute rush
00:06:48.220 so get your tickets right now amfest.com december 17th through the 20th in phoenix arizona at the
00:06:54.060 convention center it is legitimately the biggest stage in the conservative movement all right
00:06:59.020 all right we didn't even we didn't even coordinate that jack and speaking of stages
00:07:04.580 stage where you might view something for example jack you had a very interesting encounter
00:07:10.160 yeah jack with tip on a big old secretary of war today they have announced news break
00:07:16.860 breaking some uh breaking some news we're moving the needle but not that kind of needle
00:07:21.640 different kind of needle uh in fact no needle at all christina pike needle from not no no no in
00:07:27.740 In fact, we're going with a little bit more of a little bit more tried and true, old trusty, old trusty, old faithful, as they call it back in the day.
00:07:39.260 Yeah, we had an interview with the—so I just flew back from literally the Pacific Ocean because—so we're at the USS Abraham Lincoln, and for Human Events Daily, we went out there.
00:07:52.100 It was their very last day of their deployment.
00:07:54.500 Super cool to be there.
00:07:55.740 I always say, you know, welcome aboard.
00:07:57.120 I was like, literally, welcome aboard on this because we're on a ship.
00:08:02.320 It was the last day of their deployment.
00:08:04.400 322 days deployed, 200-plus at sea without a shore visit.
00:08:10.060 They were obviously conducting Operation Epic Fury operations for quite some time while they were out there.
00:08:16.620 But we did have an extensive interview with Secretary Hegseth, and he dropped a little bit of news, dropped a little bit of news on us.
00:08:25.880 that actually kind of dovetails with our show jack congrats on that thank you well i mean it's
00:08:32.940 it's it's all thanks to him and thanks of course to the sailors of uh on the ship and and i just
00:08:37.880 keep saying that you know regardless of anyone's feelings on the iran war you should always support
00:08:41.460 the troops simple as that yeah 100 so the news is like well should we play honestly we should just
00:08:48.340 we should just play the clip so they're discussing they're discussing the pending execution of uh
00:08:53.220 Major Hassan Nadal, that is the
00:08:54.920 man who committed the Fort Hood shooting
00:08:56.960 two decades ago at this point.
00:08:59.160 2009.
00:09:00.420 He injured 30, but he killed
00:09:03.280 how many? 15?
00:09:04.940 Yep.
00:09:06.720 13, which included an unborn child,
00:09:09.480 by the way.
00:09:10.640 Infamously, they labeled it workplace violence
00:09:12.960 when he was an Islamic
00:09:15.380 radical. Finally, far 0.52
00:09:17.360 too late, it should have happened
00:09:18.860 15 years ago at this point,
00:09:20.900 but he is going to face full accountability and the way it's going to go down is very interesting
00:09:27.460 okay okay okay we'll play it clip one but major hassan this news that came down regarding firing
00:09:34.080 squad can you tell us about how that came about and and what led to that decision process no
00:09:39.360 brainer execution by firing squad army major betrays his country radical islamist kills a 0.62
00:09:45.180 bunch of americans at fort hood of course we're going to do it at fort hood and do it on a 0.99
00:09:49.340 Thursday. We're going to do it at one o'clock, which is when he did it. And it's going to be
00:09:52.340 soldiers with rifles executing the firing squad. It hadn't been since World War II since we've done
00:09:58.220 that. Well, I kind of like the mentality we had in World War II, which was when, which was
00:10:02.700 understand when the enemy attacks you, you need to stand your ground. So it was radical Islamist 0.95
00:10:07.860 terror attack. Remember what Obama called it? Workplace violence. I mean, that's what we're
00:10:12.420 up against. That's the worldview we're up against is workplace violence. CVE. We know what it is.
00:10:17.760 It was a radical Islamist attack in uniform inside the ranks. 0.97
00:10:20.860 And so he's going to get a firing squad of soldiers, as it should be. 0.63
00:10:23.980 And we'll make sure that people are able to watch it, that it's public,
00:10:27.580 because people need to understand that there's serious consequences for these types of things.
00:10:33.560 Has Major Hassan made any final requests, reached out to the president, anything like that, to your knowledge?
00:10:38.400 Don't care.
00:10:40.400 We'll see him on December 3rd.
00:10:42.020 December 3rd, Fort Hood.
00:10:44.500 Wow.
00:10:45.200 Cold-blooded, bro.
00:10:46.260 Wow.
00:10:46.480 Like, don't care.
00:10:47.580 I mean, the ICE call.
00:10:49.360 And that's how it should be with justice.
00:10:52.000 Well, so people are asking me real quick, why did I ask that question about, you know, last request or anything?
00:10:58.280 And no, I was wondering, like, if he had said, you know, can I get a copy of the Koran there?
00:11:03.140 Do I want an imam?
00:11:04.920 Like that kind of thing.
00:11:06.260 Like people are like, why do you care about it?
00:11:07.980 Guys, guys, I'm doing an interview.
00:11:09.940 Okay, when you're doing an interview, you have to ask interrogative questions.
00:11:13.300 And so I'm trying to find out what else is going to happen.
00:11:16.640 no and i think it was great like whoa jack you gave that boom you set him up you set him up to
00:11:22.760 just go don't care which made him look awesome yeah don't care it doesn't even matter to me
00:11:27.660 but i mean the most interesting thing there the most interesting thing there as he said is
00:11:31.940 he says we'll make sure people are able to watch it a live stream there will be a live stream
00:11:38.160 they're live streaming it did they say that yes holy moly gone so the pentagon has reached so
00:11:44.200 obviously on the back of my interview, I'll generate a lot of attention online. And so now
00:11:50.520 there's this huge firestorm across mainstream media. So Washington Post, Politico, ABC, AP,
00:11:56.840 all these papers reached out to the Pentagon and they did put out a statement to them saying,
00:12:01.700 yes, it will be live streamed. So this goes back to a discussion. This was very early thought crime
00:12:07.720 discussion that we had. I think we discussed if did we believe in the death penalty and then how
00:12:12.980 would we do it and we said it should be public like well you know it's interesting charlie when
00:12:17.900 i first started working with charlie charlie was anti-death penalty which was familiar to me like
00:12:23.200 when i went to catholic high school my priest was the in of you know he ended up becoming the bishop
00:12:28.180 of that deities but he's a huge anti-death penalty crusader which is interesting my dad actually put
00:12:33.240 three men on death row because he was a district attorney and then he would get hired from some of
00:12:37.820 local county so my whole life i was always like well yeah i was born and raised catholic catholic
00:12:44.020 high school stuff like that i think charlie charlie was very powerfully affected uh by the argument
00:12:47.980 which makes sense that to be you know consistently pro-life you should be pro-life as the line goes
00:12:53.220 from conception to natural death yep uh and so a lot of people are affected by that is a powerful
00:12:59.060 argument but that's not true that's not that's not true at all so that like being pro-life is it is
00:13:05.360 you know kind of a misnomer because it's like i'm anti-abortion right like that's that's what
00:13:10.000 we're talking about we're anti-abortion so we're pro-life for the life of a fetus uh the idea that
00:13:15.320 a um which is a pre-born human obviously the idea that a traitor and a convicted hardcore murderer
00:13:23.320 is um is the same as an innocent child is just just obviously flies in the fact and so this is
00:13:29.460 Where I do think a lot of these pro-lifers who make this really ridiculous argument have just kind of like got themselves wrapped up in the linguistics rather than actually like like I'm pro-baby.
00:13:41.020 Right.
00:13:41.580 It's going to be on saying pro-life.
00:13:43.400 Let's get Charlie's take on it here.
00:13:45.360 Charlie actually does that exact comment with someone who talks about pro-life.
00:13:50.960 If you want to.
00:13:51.220 Yeah, I'm pro-baby.
00:13:51.840 Yeah, let's do it. 0.99
00:13:52.320 Clip two.
00:13:53.540 You are anti-death penalty.
00:13:54.780 Is that correct?
00:13:55.360 Pro.
00:13:55.660 One thing that irritates me about liberals is they'll say things like, yeah, we're pro-choice.
00:13:58.980 But then when it comes to like vaccinations and my body, my choice, suddenly they're not so pro-choice anymore.
00:14:03.000 I feel like conservatives do the same thing, but only pro-life side.
00:14:05.540 What do you think my answer is? 0.68
00:14:06.580 Because it is something bad.
00:14:07.420 Well, yeah.
00:14:08.120 But if life is invaluable, then why do you not consider it valuable throughout the whole lifespan?
00:14:12.220 Not just the beginning.
00:14:12.980 Because you believe in putting criminals in jail, right?
00:14:14.820 Yes.
00:14:15.140 Which is a taking of their rights.
00:14:16.460 Not their life.
00:14:16.960 Their whole life is completely changed.
00:14:18.700 So I guess it's also an insult to the victim, isn't it?
00:14:20.840 Saying that your life doesn't matter so much that your murderer can keep on living, but you yourself aren't living.
00:14:24.940 it's actually devalues the value of the victim or the victims actually in a lot of times god
00:14:29.420 repeated in all five books of the torah you take a life your life will be taken to the consistency
00:14:33.920 argument if there is a baby here you know in the womb that baby has done nothing wrong whereas a
00:14:38.780 guy who went and shot up a school did a lot wrong and so the only answer is to say we value human
00:14:44.020 life so much that you don't get to keep on living if you take a precious human life it's actually an
00:14:48.800 explicitly pro-life position because it's honoring the dead and honoring the victim so much that it's
00:14:54.020 not just one to be discarded that's oh it's not just a clump of cells because they're like oh you
00:14:58.380 know it's just a bunch of clump of cells that got shot up at a school it doesn't really matter go
00:15:01.800 put him in a jail where we say no that's a life you took and you don't get to get to keep on having
00:15:06.080 breath if you go take another precious human life and i think that argument is particularly strong
00:15:10.700 in a case like major hassan's that not even a crime of passion not not a stray murder but
00:15:17.280 specifically he engaged in terrorism he went about massacring fellow soldiers a betrayal of his
00:15:23.660 country, a betrayal of the uniform that he served under. And I think if we are to believe in our
00:15:29.620 society, in our civilization, one of those things is if we believe we are a moral civilization,
00:15:34.760 a good people, there should be a crime that you can commit that is so heinous that we can say
00:15:39.840 you cannot be a part of us anymore. We are going to pluck you out of this society forever. And 0.93
00:15:46.480 we're going to show that this is what happens to people who do a crime of that nature. And
00:15:51.120 We've talked about that with, unfortunately, Charlie's own murder, that if you're going to tolerate on any level political assassination, someone who will see the point of view you're arguing peacefully and say, I want everyone else to live in fear of ever agreeing with that opinion, and so I'm going to shoot you dead. 0.96
00:16:09.000 That's why we'd say you have to meet that with the maximum penalty.
00:16:11.740 Well, and it's government authority, Charlie's point that we actually value life so much that we are going to deter those who would attempt to take it or, in fact, do take it unjustly, that we are going to hold them accountable in the stiffest possible way, which is why you've always been actually in favor of public execution.
00:16:31.960 Yes, yes.
00:16:32.320 Let me explain this, though, and this is Romans 13.
00:16:38.420 This is what is often quoted about governing authorities, right?
00:16:41.320 This is really important underlying stuff.
00:16:43.800 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities,
00:16:46.300 for there is no authority except that which God has established.
00:16:49.740 The authorities that exist have been established by God.
00:16:52.940 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority
00:16:55.180 is rebelling against what God has instituted,
00:16:57.500 and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
00:16:59.760 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right,
00:17:03.940 but for those who do wrong.
00:17:06.480 That's pretty powerful.
00:17:07.820 Yeah, and is it that line?
00:17:08.760 One of the lines is like the rulers hold the sword.
00:17:10.560 Yeah, do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority?
00:17:15.340 Then do what is right, and you will be commended.
00:17:17.480 For the one in authority is God's servant.
00:17:19.060 I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:17:23.760 Oh, yeah, here it is.
00:17:25.140 They are God's servants, agents of wrath, to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.
00:17:29.000 It's verse 4.
00:17:30.280 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities,
00:17:32.860 not only because of possible punishment, but also as a matter of conscience.
00:17:36.040 And because it is not for nothing, he holds the power of the sword,
00:17:39.160 for he is God's servant and is there
00:17:41.120 as an avenger to punish wrongdoers
00:17:43.000 what does the sword do
00:17:44.820 cuts off hands
00:17:46.520 cuts off heads we used to do hands
00:17:48.420 there used to be a lot of hands getting cut off
00:17:50.680 hey you know what they say 1.00
00:17:53.120 Singapore option
00:17:53.800 what did
00:17:55.540 what was
00:17:58.760 what was Christ's take on the death
00:18:01.220 penalty he accepted it
00:18:03.300 wow that's a little
00:18:05.240 tricky well I would but even for
00:18:06.940 even for himself it's that i i always point to uh the good thief in uh the gospel it's definitely
00:18:12.600 in the gospel of luke yeah uh where you know there's of course one thief mocks christ and
00:18:18.140 says you know take yourself down from the cross if you're real and the other one says like have
00:18:21.540 you no fear of god remember we are justly condemned but this man did nothing wrong yeah
00:18:27.300 and jesus doesn't say i'm gonna get you off so you'll be with me and no and that is what we
00:18:32.780 We should pray for it, including for this Major Hassan. 0.93
00:18:36.000 We should pray that he repents and dies a Christian. 1.00
00:18:39.460 And in fact, there was an execution just the other day in either Texas or Alabama. 1.00
00:18:44.600 One of the states had, it was the first execution since that messed up one in Tennessee.
00:18:49.060 And it sounds like he died saying, you know, he asked the forgiveness of the family and said that he sought peace with God.
00:18:55.540 God bless that man.
00:18:56.440 We can hope you'll see a savior in paradise.
00:18:57.920 knowing the day and time of your death on some level for somebody who needs to repent to jesus
00:19:03.800 which we all need to repent but somebody who's done something really heinous like that is one
00:19:07.140 of the best gifts that we can give them is to say hey here's your day you have a time limit you have
00:19:11.500 a time limit make your peace with god beg ask for forgiveness well so and before we go too far
00:19:18.920 this obviously is a uh a topic and the topic of public executions which has really riled up the
00:19:27.500 media. You've got people calling us Pyongyang. You've got people saying that we are the new
00:19:32.200 North Korea, et cetera, et cetera. And this is actually something that we famously, infamously,
00:19:39.020 et cetera, had a discussion with, with Charlie when he was still with us. Let's go back and run
00:19:44.920 that classic clip. It is clip three. This is my other problem with death penalty.
00:19:49.780 It takes too long, too many appeals. It should be public. It should be quick. It should be
00:19:54.680 televised you could have like brought to you by coca-cola and no i'm not kidding by the way i 0.97
00:20:00.800 would totally tune in to see some pedo get their head chopped off convicted by a jury by the way
00:20:05.320 i'm talking about a real thing i'm talking i'm not talking all executions in bellers are by 0.95
00:20:10.820 firearm that's not a choice or anything andrew's saying don't make kids watch it and i think no
00:20:14.920 the absolute age if you can drive you can watch it if all of a sudden you look at some of these
00:20:21.580 savages like in indiana there was this guy that went in and killed a pregnant woman and her three
00:20:25.660 kids yeah and you know what i want to watch that execution that'll make my day better i want to see
00:20:30.480 him on a public block and get him be publicly executed and so you heard me come in there and
00:20:38.060 say you know maybe not for the kids but i kind of don't think there's a realistic way of shielding
00:20:43.200 them from it yeah i mean you're gonna let it out you do want to be careful because i think there is
00:20:47.240 the point of you we are not doing this because like it's fun and you want to wallow in it but
00:20:51.460 people should be aware like in a visceral way that if they do really evil heinous things
00:20:58.040 this is the fate and that's what we're kind of getting at when we mention you know people under
00:21:02.420 18 i wouldn't show it to a six-year-old but someone who's 13 14 where you're old enough like
00:21:08.220 we know there are 13 and 14 year olds who commit murders in this country when you're at that age
00:21:12.400 where you are strong enough to commit carjackings, robberies, murders,
00:21:17.480 you should be shown this is what will happen to you
00:21:20.280 if you go down that path.
00:21:21.420 Did you see that video, that six-year-old?
00:21:23.840 That was crazy. 0.97
00:21:24.940 That black kid in the white teacher. 0.97
00:21:26.960 The kindergarten. 0.93
00:21:27.660 Virginia.
00:21:28.140 Was it in Ohio or something?
00:21:29.220 I think it was Virginia.
00:21:30.820 Yeah.
00:21:31.400 Was it Virginia?
00:21:32.160 Okay.
00:21:32.660 I can't remember where it was. 1.00
00:21:33.700 But anyways, he's all like, F-U-M-F-er. 1.00
00:21:36.760 Come at me. 0.91
00:21:38.300 Taunting the police, the teacher.
00:21:40.080 The teacher's trying to hold him and comfort him.
00:21:42.020 super super anti-white well it was just like i think he was just okay i think i've told the
00:21:48.420 story before but i used to live in venice beach and there was a park there that used to be
00:21:52.260 predominantly black every year they'd come back for a block party and i was playing basketball
00:21:56.480 there and a bunch of little like black kids they're like couldn't have been older than five 0.99
00:22:00.740 or six they talk like this kid to me and i was like shocked because who raises a kid like that 0.99
00:22:07.440 But it's a problem in certain cultures.
00:22:10.280 Let's just be honest. 0.68
00:22:11.560 So anyways, the point is, the age at which you are capable of murdering somebody,
00:22:17.320 and by the way, the whole point of what I'm saying is that a six-year-old shot the teacher in that.
00:22:20.920 The six-year-old brought a gun to school and shot the teacher.
00:22:23.240 Anyway, so it's a tricky part, though, because once you put it out there,
00:22:26.960 how do you stop people from watching it, right?
00:22:29.940 The internet is the internet.
00:22:30.980 It's going to go.
00:22:31.660 I mean, there is an angle that could be said where there's desensitization.
00:22:37.440 But the problem is we are so far down the road of desensitization in this culture that, you know, Dylan or somebody in the chat said if kids can play GTA, they can they can see it.
00:22:53.140 And honestly, that's true.
00:22:54.260 They need to be able to see they need to be able to see the wheels of justice turn.
00:22:58.240 Yeah, this is true.
00:22:59.400 I don't think it's bloodlust. I think the worry is that you would create some sort of ravenous appetite for bloodletting in your culture or something. No, no, no. Democrats hate anything. Anything. Progressives have an aversion that is so profound against justice. They don't want justice for the illegal. They don't want justice for Lindsay Clancy. They hate justice.
00:23:22.900 this is and that's sadly that's the other argument in favor of the death penalty is in places that
00:23:26.860 don't have it instantly you have people who they they want to get rid of life without parole
00:23:31.400 they will fight cashless they will move heaven and earth and hell to get the most awful criminals
00:23:39.760 back on the street back at liberty to let them hurt people again kill people again or just
00:23:45.300 torment people by the fact that they're free such an obvious thing there was a clemency they gave in
00:23:50.380 and I believe it was in Virginia there where they just,
00:23:52.800 they let someone out who broke into an elderly couple's home and murdered
00:23:56.400 them and their grandchild came out and was like, please, I'm begging you.
00:24:00.680 Don't let out the person who murdered my grandparents and let them out.
00:24:05.100 Yeah.
00:24:06.000 When I was cutting that clip, Charlie goes on to continue and he said,
00:24:10.160 you know how I know that the death penalty would work is if you decided that
00:24:17.500 death death penalty for anybody who who robs stores uh except for thursday guess when everybody
00:24:26.040 would be robbing yeah thursday thursday well you see this jack you know this story because you're
00:24:30.460 the east coast guy but there's actually gang like organized crime rings that will go up to new york
00:24:36.840 uh from florida steal and do all the stealing and theft in new york because if they get caught
00:24:42.520 in new york they'll be fine and then they they sell it back in florida or they sell it and then
00:24:46.760 There's actually a big thing with with I'm trying to remember this.
00:24:50.420 I think it's Kansas City, how there's like two sides of Kansas City, the Kansas City, Kansas, Kansas City, Missouri.
00:24:56.140 And I remember I forget which one on the top of my head.
00:24:58.100 I think it's one of them has a death penalty and one of them doesn't.
00:25:01.420 And so one of them has a much higher crime rate because you'll get criminals going to the place that has no death penalty and then committing a ton more crimes and then going back to where they live on the other side.
00:25:13.160 It makes perfect sense.
00:25:14.420 I don't understand.
00:25:15.180 And it is the most obvious thing ever.
00:25:17.220 California, they even got rid of, what was that, Prop 41 or whatever it was,
00:25:22.220 where you could steal up to $1,000 and you basically get a slap on the wrist and a written warning.
00:25:27.560 If you do not punish crime, you will get more crime.
00:25:31.560 This is what Rudy Giuliani found with the broken windows theory.
00:25:34.620 You've got to clean everything up.
00:25:35.780 You actually have to prosecute criminals.
00:25:37.320 And when you do that, guess what?
00:25:39.840 Urban revitalization, gentrification, investment in your city.
00:25:43.760 but democrats cannot grasp this because everything's racist there's there's a story that has haunted me
00:25:49.880 ever since i learned about it so there was a serial killer in the houston area back in the
00:25:54.040 early 1970s i think they'll just call it like the houston mass murders but he was a grown man and he
00:25:58.480 kind of had these two teenage accomplices and they would abduct children and torture them and kill
00:26:03.200 them and the main killer thankfully uh was killed actually he basically tried to murder his
00:26:09.420 accomplices and they killed them and then they turned themselves in and since then they've been
00:26:13.860 in prison because they helped abduct children and murder them but they weren't given the death
00:26:17.640 penalty it was during that period where it was uh not uh enforced because of the supreme court
00:26:22.420 put a hold on it and ever since then the parents of one of their last victims stanton jamala 13 was
00:26:28.720 the last victim of this serial killer and for the past 55 years his parents have had to go well
00:26:36.200 ever since he became eligible for parole which uh i think began uh a decade ago or so and they
00:26:42.860 just have to go in every six months to argue against parole for this guy they have to relive
00:26:47.400 it they literally describe it you know it's coming you have to prepare for it mentally
00:26:51.080 sleepless nights thinking reliving things what are you going to say what are you going to do
00:26:56.160 you're going to tell the parole board exactly how you feel they have to keep all these binders of
00:27:00.800 photos news articles they have to basically relive their child's murder every six months
00:27:06.540 because we can't just say this person who abducted tortured and murdered teenagers
00:27:11.720 shouldn't be among us anymore yeah yeah and it's it's how you deal with evil we need to
00:27:18.840 tell you a lot about what you think of life we need to give my uh so yeah so uh december 3rd
00:27:25.260 is actually my youngest son's
00:27:27.400 birthday. And he turns
00:27:29.260 six years old. So when you mentioned six-year-old
00:27:31.520 and we
00:27:33.360 were watching the interview earlier
00:27:35.160 and he totally picked up on the fact
00:27:37.360 he said, oh, December 3rd, are you
00:27:39.340 doing it for my birthday, daddy? And I said,
00:27:41.660 sure thing, buddy. Sure thing.
00:27:43.800 All for you.
00:27:45.020 It could be worse. I mean, also
00:27:47.460 pedophiles absolutely 0.99
00:27:49.220 do need the death penalty because 1.00
00:27:50.720 we need to protect kids. No, we need to 0.84
00:27:53.200 cull the herd. Okay, Blake and I were having this
00:27:55.200 Blake and I were having this conversation.
00:27:57.740 One of the reasons, this is very thought-crimey, okay? 0.93
00:28:00.840 One of the reasons European culture, and I would add Japan and probably even China.
00:28:06.960 I don't know as much about the history.
00:28:08.620 One of the reasons we have successful cultures in the West is because if you stole a cow or you stole a horse, they'd kill you.
00:28:17.240 They would hang you for that.
00:28:18.920 And you start getting rid of those DNA strands in your gene pool.
00:28:23.100 guess what over about 2 000 years you're going to end up in a much better place you selected for
00:28:27.180 people who can respond to incentives that can exist in a society and so then when you import 0.96
00:28:33.520 all these third worlders and these islam guys you know there's jihadist major hassan nadal 0.99
00:28:40.440 well guess what you're importing a culture and a heritage and a gene pool that like didn't didn't 0.95
00:28:47.520 get any of that necessarily maybe they got some of it maybe they got different parts of it
00:28:51.600 But that is a thought crime.
00:28:53.820 I'm sorry.
00:28:54.500 I'm sorry.
00:28:55.180 But there's a reason why the West is the best.
00:28:58.680 And there's a reason why we shouldn't mix value streams like that.
00:29:01.860 Fort Hood should definitely be considered treason as well.
00:29:05.540 Yeah.
00:29:06.040 Oh, for sure.
00:29:06.560 100%.
00:29:06.860 All right.
00:29:07.380 Here's my thought.
00:29:08.080 Here's another thought crime. 1.00
00:29:08.940 I think Lindsay Clancy should get the death penalty. 1.00
00:29:10.620 Oh, not even a thought crime. 1.00
00:29:12.600 100%.
00:29:13.120 Yes.
00:29:13.860 All right.
00:29:14.360 Jack, Lindsay Clancy, copycats. 1.00
00:29:16.720 They all should get the death penalty. 1.00
00:29:17.560 You want a crazy thing? 1.00
00:29:18.920 It's crazy to me that if you look back through history, obviously women get executed more
00:29:22.820 than men.
00:29:23.520 But the ones who do get executed, it is a really recurring thing.
00:29:25.980 Is that true?
00:29:27.120 Women get executed more than men?
00:29:28.200 No, sorry. 1.00
00:29:28.600 Did I say that?
00:29:29.160 I'm sorry. 1.00
00:29:29.520 Women get executed less than men. 0.85
00:29:30.760 Obviously, men are most executions. 1.00
00:29:32.500 Sure. 0.69
00:29:32.700 But the recurring pattern is women who do get executed is because they killed their own 1.00
00:29:36.500 children.
00:29:36.980 This is crazy.
00:29:37.880 Okay, Jack, did you hear this story that came out just this morning where the six-year-old
00:29:42.960 boy defends his three-year-old sister.
00:29:45.600 He might have to get a leg amputated. 0.82
00:29:47.400 the mom a 35 year old mother was unsuccessful in killing her two children but she darn near got 1.00
00:29:52.980 them i think she should get the death penalty you try and kill your kids that's just might as well 0.99
00:29:58.060 just okay you know that was the one i think they were out of south carolina and they they the 1.00
00:30:03.280 grandmother i remember we wrote it up for post-millennial um the grandmother actually
00:30:08.520 said that she thought that the older son had defended his younger sister and that's why he
00:30:14.240 had more wounds than the sister did and um this is 50 guys we were we were talking about this
00:30:22.920 during the lindsey clancy trial and i remember we said that there that this trial is going to
00:30:29.520 create lindsey clancy copycats and there were people out there who said oh you guys are crazy
00:30:35.340 you don't know what you're talking about and i walked through the formula i said it's it's the
00:30:40.960 the tiktok brain the tiktok brain rot the true crime brain rot plus the algorithmic
00:30:47.440 incentivization the algorithmic incentivization of i'm doing it you should do it there's more of
00:30:54.640 this this is getting incentivized it's getting pushed everywhere combined with and i'm just 1.00
00:30:59.480 going to say it the toxic fifth wave feminism we get into this and then but that's i'll back here 1.00
00:31:05.360 so and it'll be bad and what will allow it to them to get away with it is even say she got 1.00
00:31:10.800 convicted if lindsay clancy just gets convicted and she's a celebrity prisoner maybe she writes
00:31:16.080 a memoir in prison is releasing letters be fixed to it is what we've been talking about here if
00:31:20.840 lindsay clancy got michelle is gonna hung from you know hung from a gallows in public she should 1.00
00:31:26.700 no romantic be hung we should bring back hangings she strangled her her three kids yeah she should 0.99
00:31:31.740 be hung and that and that's the traditional one they did you would you'd hang them in a public 0.99
00:31:35.000 spot, and you don't need to have 0.96
00:31:36.680 excessive... France had the guillotine
00:31:38.820 since until 1977.
00:31:41.000 Found that one.
00:31:42.380 The last beheading
00:31:44.800 was after the release of Star Wars.
00:31:46.300 Number 12, guys. Throw up number 12.
00:31:48.680 These are the copycat headlines. 0.96
00:31:51.180 Death penalty. All of them. 0.64
00:31:52.760 All of them. Texas mom shoots 1.00
00:31:54.780 daughter four in murder-suicide
00:31:56.800 hours after losing custody battle.
00:31:58.820 Missouri mom who claims she mistakenly placed
00:32:00.840 infant in an oven, killing her.
00:32:03.380 Cops a plea deal. 1.00
00:32:05.000 Lindsay Clancy, obsessed. 0.90
00:32:06.840 Okay, I just started over.
00:32:08.280 That, I mean, this is nuts.
00:32:10.080 Yeah.
00:32:10.400 This is nuts. 1.00
00:32:10.940 And I will tell you, this is, to Blake's point, why this happened is because a bunch of women 1.00
00:32:16.620 thought they'd do the, like, the longhouse, you know, sisterhood of the traveling, whatever. 1.00
00:32:21.360 And they got behind her with their pink shirts and their hearts in the air.
00:32:25.600 And guess what? 1.00
00:32:26.260 All of these women, you enabled them. 1.00
00:32:28.200 You justified their own psychosis. 0.93
00:32:31.620 And this is the result.
00:32:33.060 No, you do not justify it.
00:32:34.440 You condemn it, you nip it in the bud, and you put this woman on death row. 0.91
00:32:39.000 Problem solved. 0.98
00:32:40.300 At least partly.
00:32:42.580 Yeah.
00:32:43.120 Yeah.
00:32:43.920 No objections here.
00:32:45.120 I wonder if anyone objects in the comments.
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00:34:27.980 there you go all right let's play let's play this is what i'm talking about though this is what i'm 0.99
00:34:32.080 talking about clancy just play some of the b-roll 13 yeah these freaking women no offense women 1.00
00:34:38.040 there are great women this is what enables child killers every single one of these women right here 1.00
00:34:43.740 i'm not kidding maybe this is saying it too hard you have blood on your hands
00:34:47.760 you have blood on your hands because you told the other women's that were women that were dealing
00:34:51.920 with whatever mental issue they had that it was justified and that they were not alone and that 0.52
00:34:57.160 I guess a lot of women want to murder their children. 0.99
00:34:59.880 No, it's disgusting. 1.00
00:35:01.340 You're all disgusting. 0.99
00:35:04.380 And then this leads into these other things. 0.99
00:35:06.880 This is a really well-built-out segment.
00:35:09.140 The Bernadette Green story and the Cornell protest.
00:35:12.200 Go ahead, Jack.
00:35:13.760 Well, no, so I was going to explain. 0.74
00:35:15.000 So for folks who want to go and pre-order the new Unhumans, Unhumans Socialist Revolution,
00:35:20.120 we have a whole chapter on the Lindsay Clancy stans, on TikTok brain rot, on true crime brain rot,
00:35:26.580 on the idea that you're seeing this new fifth wave feminism,
00:35:31.340 which kind of, in a way, so we finished the book
00:35:33.760 even before the Cornell Seven story dropped,
00:35:38.940 but it actually explains a lot of the same things
00:35:41.780 that we're seeing in there, 1.00
00:35:42.860 where it's like, kill your kids, 1.00
00:35:45.180 and everything is rape, 1.00
00:35:48.400 and that all men are evil, 0.98
00:35:51.720 and even your kids are part of the oppressor class,
00:35:54.080 and so if you want to actually understand these things,
00:35:56.580 Go and get yourself a copy of Unhumans 2 Socialist Revolution because that chapter on toxic feminism, fifth-wave feminism, it breaks this down exquisitely. 0.92
00:36:07.640 What are the five waves?
00:36:09.540 I'm familiar with the three.
00:36:12.280 So the first one, it's basically described, I think, the things they want. 0.59
00:36:18.840 So it's like women should be able to vote, then women in the workforce. 0.96
00:36:22.780 second um third third wave feminism is like women are women are equal to men fourth wave feminism
00:36:28.560 is of course like includes all like the transgenderism and all that stuff um you know 0.99
00:36:33.560 men and women's sports and then fifth wave is what we're currently on which is like just kill 0.97
00:36:38.840 your kids feminism yeah it's like no accountability no accountability men are men are responsible for 0.98
00:36:45.260 everything even if you kill your own kids it's still men's fault it's the infantilization of 0.65
00:36:49.620 women though i have a much higher regard for women than whatever this is yeah i do we love
00:36:55.480 women so much that we want them to have agency in their own lives yeah that you actually should
00:37:00.360 be able to be trusted like an adult to not kill your kids or you know if you're going to choose 1.00
00:37:06.040 to take a bunch of drugs and go hook up in a gangbang that guess what you get to deal with
00:37:11.200 the shame and the regret of a regrettable sexual situation because you also take the drugs um you
00:37:17.880 decided to do the gangbang did you guys see there's like a there's actually a new headline
00:37:23.240 in that that just dropped right before the show oh the TMZ one uh I don't know if it was TMZ I
00:37:29.060 just saw post millennial that there are new texts where actually apparently Jane Doe was
00:37:35.680 and I'm just reading the headline we have it was our body our choice right throw 24
00:37:40.920 The Our Body, Our Choice, and defended the activities, the multi, how do we put that?
00:37:52.100 Multi-interactive activities, group activities.
00:37:55.700 The multivariant analysis.
00:37:56.860 Our Bodies, Our Choice, and said, I don't think we should feel any shame for the part Our Bodies, Our Choice, ASF.
00:38:05.360 Yeah.
00:38:05.740 Oh, boy.
00:38:06.060 So here's the point.
00:38:07.260 this is officially i'm calling it steak in the ground line in the sand this is the cornell seven
00:38:14.840 hoax it's officially a hoax look at this also yes while it may have been nice for like uh what is
00:38:22.040 this oh wait wrong one ah jonathan i really appreciate this text my memory's super clouded
00:38:27.180 too i think we were all way too effing drunk and high yeah you think uh i'm getting a little heat
00:38:34.120 pi-fi girls blank and blank can't get my name out of their mouth and that's to be expected but at
00:38:39.320 the end of the day none of the sexual stuff was illegal and honestly i really liked being with
00:38:43.860 you and matt so anything anyone has to say about the gangbang oh wait i thought it was a rape sorry
00:38:48.960 oh the gangbang is out of their jurisdiction i don't think we should feel any shame for the part 0.83
00:38:54.180 our body our choice oh okay so miss agency she's in control she determines the morality of it all 0.92
00:39:04.000 oh now now it's right because she just realized she woke up one day and realized when you're not 0.80
00:39:09.820 invited to a halloween party that darn it it's just it's not it it kind of gets back to the 0.81
00:39:14.620 classic thing to be popular there's just certain there's just certain victimization arcs that you 1.00
00:39:20.380 know we've set the script for how it can go it's just like how many how many women have been 0.81
00:39:24.720 frustrated in their career and so they suddenly discovered they'd been sexually harassed or
00:39:29.440 abused in some way, somewhere along their
00:39:31.500 career arc. There's
00:39:33.140 several notorious cases about that at Fox
00:39:35.620 for example.
00:39:38.960 It's just like
00:39:39.700 this is the same thing. It's just like this woman can either
00:39:41.480 be, I think one of those text messages was 1.00
00:39:43.540 like, my reputation is destroyed. Well, she can
00:39:45.520 either have the destroyed reputation 1.00
00:39:47.280 or, wait a minute,
00:39:50.060 I'm not 0.87
00:39:50.620 a slag, I'm a victim.
00:39:53.540 She literally says in the 0.98
00:39:55.420 New York Times article, they
00:39:57.220 outline it, it goes, it was the first
00:39:59.380 time that i had heard the narrative that i was a victim not a whore so it was you could see it was
00:40:05.500 almost like this moment of relief like oh wait maybe there's another option to this story where 0.83
00:40:10.800 i don't have to be the whore i actually get to be a victim yeah um anyways uh it's crazy how this
00:40:15.700 looks entirely back to the initial topic where it's like in a sense you know major hassan is
00:40:20.360 also like he needs to face accountability there are a few fix everything yeah fix everything and
00:40:25.260 it's like accountability for your actions across society uh across the board and when the thing is
00:40:31.180 is when you have more accountability there's less problems there's less bad things did you see the
00:40:35.580 great article it was in i think it was the harvard crimson uh and it was saying that students are
00:40:41.500 they're realizing that consent might not be enough for sex like they're developing a new
00:40:45.500 sexual ethic that we should dignity matters too they're basically reinventing marriage and like
00:40:51.460 real relationships and commitment from first principles like and they think that they think
00:40:55.200 they're just you know the most genius people ever no one's ever thought of this idea we need to we
00:40:58.960 need to talk about consent jack and i need you to have my back here no super hot takes here just
00:41:03.620 have my back so consent is garbage okay like consent means what you want it to mean when you
00:41:11.980 want it to mean it the whole concept of consent is like one big setup to basically screw over 0.99
00:41:18.720 aziz anzari when you have regrettable sex with him or to screw over insert male here when you 0.94
00:41:23.540 realize that actually he doesn't like you that much consent it's like like it's that aziz anzari 0.95
00:41:29.680 thing where he thought that he got proper consent the girl wakes up and says oh i don't know if i
00:41:33.920 like that and then it turns into a rape allegation that's not okay that like they're the whole concept
00:41:40.440 listen i agree if a girl says no you need to say yeah of course not right i get it but like this
00:41:47.220 concept of like in between gray zone well it wasn't consent because i was drunk well did you
00:41:52.180 consent to getting drunk and putting yourself into that position yeah yeah i don't know jack 0.95
00:41:57.440 have my back no no i have i have your back because the the double standard is what makes it garbage
00:42:03.840 right the double standard of if if the man is drunk how can he consent right he couldn't consent
00:42:09.720 either and this is where you get this sort of he too movement that has bubbled up uh this week
00:42:15.220 online and one that has gone gone back until um you know going back years even before trump
00:42:22.240 announced all the way back to the uva hoax and so this has created a situation where the double
00:42:26.920 standards have become completely untenable and this is again we talk about this in the new on
00:42:32.300 humans where you have to accelerate um you have to accelerate the contradictions and this is
00:42:39.120 exactly what it means so you you flip it back on them you use that tactic of saying well how could
00:42:43.760 he consent how could the man consent why is consent one of these things that in a legal sense
00:42:48.820 and this and and blake can explain this that in a legal sense this is something that had been done
00:42:54.280 on campuses which i believe actually correct me if i'm wrong um blake again you would know better
00:42:59.080 than me but didn't the trump administration actually change the way that these are that
00:43:03.680 these cases are investigated well the obama administration created this new they basically
00:43:09.760 imposed a new legal standard they'd say colleges to comply with title nine remember title nine of
00:43:14.520 the education act just says under title nine right yeah discriminate between you can't discriminate
00:43:18.780 between men and women that's all it says in providing education if you get federal funds
00:43:22.440 you can't discriminate between men and women and our brilliant obama administration came out and
00:43:26.020 said to comply with this law you're actually required in you know the great genius of our
00:43:30.380 lawmakers they intended this decades ago you're actually required to create a special new legal
00:43:35.620 tribunal to adjudicate sexual assault claims you can't just throw it to the police you have to have
00:43:39.660 your own proceeding. And it has to follow this specific evidence standard that is lower than
00:43:43.680 the criminal standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. It just has to be preponderance of the
00:43:47.840 evidence, which legally means we think it's more likely than not. And you're not required to allow
00:43:51.620 cross-examination. You're not allowed to require confrontation of witnesses. You can create a
00:43:56.140 kangaroo court. They required this of schools. And then the Trump administration got rid of it.
00:44:01.920 The Biden administration brought it back and made it even worse. And now it's out again. And they're
00:44:06.820 trying to use this bogus scandal to revive it again and change laws well you know what else i
00:44:11.340 want to real flag real quick though uh zuzu she just said did you see thank you zuzu uh did you
00:44:16.700 see the sex ed that was being taught at cornell yes we did yes it did it it just very casually
00:44:22.820 and almost robotically like they had a literal itemized list where it's like you should fill
00:44:28.500 out this consent form to see are you comfortable with all of these things and it was sex with one
00:44:33.840 person, two people, three or more people, four or more people like two P and they just, it was like
00:44:39.620 rattling it off all these things. Like, Oh, you should make your, do your five page sex inventory.
00:44:44.760 And it's gross to read. It's robotic to read. And I think the most telling thing of all is that it's 0.96
00:44:53.080 not, it's not erotic to read like with the creepiest thing about all of this. And even
00:44:59.180 coming out of the Cornell story is like, nothing's actually like for lack of a better word, hot about
00:45:03.800 any of this it's a bunch of people who've been fed this idea of what it is to be adventurous
00:45:08.480 what it is to be daring what it is to be to do something cool and edgy while you're in college
00:45:13.880 and the end result is this woman had a reputation destroyed these boys are having their reputations
00:45:19.400 trashed all of them look disgusting are any of them closer to feeling real love for anyone in
00:45:24.540 their life they all need jesus they all need jesus like that's the that's the case so here's
00:45:29.160 what else they're doing though with this this is new york times today jack i don't know if you saw
00:45:33.960 this embrace or ban greek life cornell case renews an old debate on campuses a sexual assault case
00:45:43.680 at cornell revived a long-running national conversation about whether fraternities and
00:45:47.260 sororities are beneficial and harmful of course you would go here yeah of course because no
00:45:54.120 liberals hate nothing more than an old school institution for men only and women only well 1.00
00:46:00.580 unless you're a tranny because then they'll let the trannies in that's all they care about they 1.00
00:46:04.980 want to get rid of the the places in which masculinity can flourish old school values 1.00
00:46:11.780 old school institutions and let's just be honest a lot of white men so now they want to ban greek 0.88
00:46:17.240 life over a freaking hoax and ua u of a is also doing this yeah a lot of schools are so you know
00:46:23.540 And this is where, you know, this is where when we look at these things, and we've, of course, done lots of shows about this, this is where you have to ask serious questions about the sexual revolution of the 60s and 70s. 0.93
00:46:36.160 And you have to go back and say, well, wait a minute.
00:46:38.800 Do these things actually work?
00:46:40.200 Do these things make ourselves better?
00:46:42.080 Do they make our lives better?
00:46:43.100 Does this entire way of living make society better?
00:46:48.840 Of course it doesn't.
00:46:49.620 Or does it work?
00:46:50.720 No, it doesn't.
00:46:51.380 Does it work? 0.97
00:46:51.640 We need to bring back old sexual mores. 1.00
00:46:53.960 We need to bring back chivalry, chastity, and virtue.
00:46:58.440 Because guess what? 1.00
00:46:58.940 How about, real quick, the idea of Christian matrimony?
00:47:05.220 How about that idea?
00:47:06.060 This is what's wild.
00:47:06.880 I'll find the graphic.
00:47:08.100 But do you know the one area of modernity that has not gone through what they're calling the sex recession? 0.97
00:47:15.880 That would be a monotonous religious marriage.
00:47:18.780 they are the only people in america today that are not going through that are not having less
00:47:23.940 sex than they did like 20 years ago where was the clap sound effect that was like perfect
00:47:27.880 perfect setup yeah where was i'm glad glad i didn't do that like the mexican hat dance one
00:47:32.560 for me for andrew there it is yeah we get this but not the other one i don't get it
00:47:40.420 what uh i've got to find the way i love this comment can i just can i read this comment from
00:47:45.800 mk bren hollywood literally promotes that lifestyle in all their shows and then when
00:47:50.600 people do what they see on tv they get demonized make it make sense exactly right exactly right
00:47:56.760 so when we we promote yep unchristian behavior and you get more unchristian behavior then we
00:48:03.080 turn around and say wait um why did we get all this unchristian behavior because you promoted it
00:48:08.280 because you were constantly promoting it and because there are people who and and just maybe
00:48:13.640 Maybe, just maybe, and this is going to sound crazy, a real thought crime, scalding hot thought crime here, flaming hot take.
00:48:20.120 What if the Christian standards were in place because they work?
00:48:26.800 What if Christianity is real and the reason that it worked for 2,000 years is because those standards actually set up a better and more successful society?
00:48:40.960 so this is from brad wilcox uh my latest from the atlantic for the atlantic religion
00:48:47.420 frequently gets a bad rap in our public conversation about sex yet in an atomized
00:48:52.340 individual individualistic age faith has turned out to be one of the few institutions
00:48:56.520 still nurturing one of the most powerful expressions of human intimacy throw up 27
00:49:02.240 so this is actually the graph religious couples avoided the sex recession look at that i guess
00:49:07.900 you could technically say we're down from 64 percent in the 1990s to 62 percent but we're
00:49:12.700 actually up from 61 percent in the 2010s hey hey speak for yourself speak for yourself but look at
00:49:18.420 this so rarely never attend church went from 64 on par with the frequent attenders of church
00:49:24.800 down to 48 and the all unmarried group is down at 35 and i guess what is it what is it uh what does
00:49:33.320 that say how much what is that uh what's the actual well have sex once once a week or more
00:49:39.240 so i'm just saying holy matrimony guys it's the way it's the way that god designed it
00:49:47.120 so holy matrimony yes yes matrimony pill i mean it's as he said as jack's saying and you know
00:49:55.200 what if it was good because it worked well and that's the crazy thing is like it actually worked
00:49:58.600 more or less stably for hundreds you know thousands of years if you want to go from like
00:50:03.180 when certain christian ideas became sort of the standard thing that they're pushing you could say
00:50:08.020 it probably lasts a good solid thousand fifteen hundred years yeah and then you just compare to
00:50:12.480 this stuff where it's like and we got rid of all those dumb restrictions in the 1960s and like
00:50:17.780 you're not even getting to the end of girls you're not even getting to the end of those people's
00:50:21.080 lifetime before society's flying apart and then you can engage in debaucherous gang gang bangs 0.95
00:50:26.640 with a redhead, and you think it's fine. 0.98
00:50:30.140 Oh, wait, it's not fine. 1.00
00:50:31.160 She's going to ruin your life.
00:50:32.260 Everyone's messed up.
00:50:33.780 She's going to ruin your life, but let's not let them off here.
00:50:36.720 They damaged themselves.
00:50:37.800 They damaged themselves greatly.
00:50:39.620 They did.
00:50:40.100 You're totally right.
00:50:40.960 You're totally right.
00:50:41.860 Now, we haven't talked about Bernadette Green.
00:50:43.780 I don't know if we want to get to that.
00:50:44.620 I don't think we want to.
00:50:45.360 All right, let's go to the Stryver culture versus Team Sports.
00:50:47.740 Jack, this is you, buddy.
00:50:49.620 This is big.
00:50:50.560 This is big.
00:50:51.640 You tweeted about it.
00:50:52.360 This was a debate that sort of riled up the internet,
00:50:55.940 And it started as, so Dinesh D'Souza has been having this sort of H-1B debate with a number of people.
00:51:03.540 It's sort of like a proxy debate with Beau French and J.D. Vance, who have both called for ending the H-1B program.
00:51:11.520 I'm going to throw my name in that list, too.
00:51:13.920 And, yeah, no, no, no.
00:51:15.040 I mean, all of us who, you know, were, you know, having the burrito debate recently.
00:51:20.280 But then the question of assimilation came up, assimilation to American culture.
00:51:25.260 And then there came this debate regarding Stryver culture, whether or not Stryver culture is American.
00:51:34.520 And Stryver culture is something that you typically see among Asian cultures, so Indian and Chinese.
00:51:41.040 And you see this a lot in Indian and Chinese families.
00:51:43.960 And what we're talking about is sort of like the overemphasis on studying for SATs, studying for everything, cramming for everything, studying for spelling bees has become a sort of proxy in the debate as well.
00:51:55.260 that you have to like push yourself and constantly take extra credit, extracurricular courses to
00:52:01.600 always be studying, study hard, study hard, study hard. Vivek, of course, had a tweet about this
00:52:06.480 as well himself, two, almost two full years ago on Christmas, talking about how Americans,
00:52:13.480 you know, are playing too many sports and aren't studying hard enough. And that's why
00:52:17.300 they're getting, you know, that's why people are getting left behind. And so that is,
00:52:24.240 in a nutshell the version of striver culture do you guys are no it totally makes sense i mean
00:52:29.600 listen but do you know what i'm saying it's a striver okay read you know i'm going to get ahead
00:52:34.520 to be a striver um so then so then dinesh d'Souza responded to that criticism by saying that well
00:52:42.480 i should explain this criticism too so the criticism was that that that's not an american
00:52:46.900 culture american culture is more like you find your talent and then you inculcate that talent
00:52:51.680 You don't just strive to pass the test because the test is there.
00:52:55.800 So Dinesh responded, the Olympics, the World Cup, and the Super Bowl are 100% the product
00:52:59.880 of striver culture.
00:53:00.740 Is there a single case of someone who didn't practice for hundreds of thousands of hours
00:53:03.880 simply showing up and taking the gold or scoring the winning goal or getting the MVP award?
00:53:08.800 And again, I think this is, I just don't think he understands what we're talking about when
00:53:13.960 we say striver culture.
00:53:15.360 The idea isn't necessarily that there aren't elite athletes.
00:53:18.620 Of course, there's elite athletes.
00:53:19.900 but the idea of striver culture is trying to push everyone to be the same thing to try to push
00:53:26.060 everyone into being the piano player the violin player everyone has to be a lawyer everyone has
00:53:31.100 to be a dentist everyone has to be a doctor versus um you know everyone has to get x score
00:53:37.280 on the sats or whatever it is this is striver culture and putting a massive emphasis on this
00:53:42.180 you have to pass the test because the test is there versus in american culture and mike cernovich
00:53:46.860 was talking about this it's like the test is there to locate and find talent right the test
00:53:56.640 is there to determine who has innate talent and then be able to take that person and find their
00:54:04.180 their highest and best use in society so it's not just about being able to get the highest score on
00:54:10.580 the test what is the purpose of the test what is the purpose of the grade the purpose obviously to
00:54:15.360 teach the education, right? That's like the most basic purpose. But also it's like you want to
00:54:19.800 also find those people who are so talented that you then put them into elite programs the same way
00:54:27.000 that all of those world medalists, world gold medalists and elite athletes, again, start not
00:54:34.520 just from striving, but from having that innate talent. So it's actually a talent search,
00:54:39.400 at a talent search mechanism rather than just taking a test for the fact the test is there
00:54:46.860 and mike cernovich our good friend had a rejoinder to all of this and said this one of the most
00:54:53.740 american things that you do see and you don't see in asian cultures is the culture of team sports
00:55:00.680 and you know kind of had this this basic response that you know you don't see the strivers necessarily
00:55:06.780 in team sports. And I'm not saying, by the way, that you don't see this culture because you are
00:55:11.120 starting to see striver culture in team sports with like travel teams and stuff. But the basic
00:55:16.520 idea of an American with kids, and I think that if you went up 10 out of 10, if you have kids in
00:55:22.800 team sports and you ask the parents, why do you have them in those sports? They're going to say
00:55:27.600 to teach them teamwork, right? To teach them teamwork and good values. And that those values
00:55:34.060 are not actually the highest values that are taught in Asian cultures.
00:55:38.620 So this is something where it's like, it's literally a cultural debate.
00:55:43.140 This isn't something where race really plays a role, but you do see this vast cultural
00:55:49.320 gulf in the data when you look at the participation rates for team sports.
00:55:55.860 So Andrew, to answer your question, this is why it's become this like hot button issue
00:56:00.380 online as to say is asian culture of the asian culture of striver culture is that becoming more
00:56:07.560 american and is team sports also getting kind of invaded by this driver culture kind of mentality
00:56:15.440 well strive team sports is getting invaded by the fact that like more people first it's a few things 0.73
00:56:21.920 like the travel sports epidemic and that's not getting ruined by asians that's totally getting
00:56:25.460 ruined by like middle-class white families and no i think a lot of that's also so what's going on
00:56:31.200 there that's so interesting is that like i think some of it is that people have become just aware
00:56:37.580 of how pro sports is just such a giant lucrative thing it's a highly visible path that people can
00:56:42.760 go down and it's so freakishly hard and it's so freakishly hard to get in and like and it just
00:56:47.780 keeps moving back like when you have to be good such that you have to like be you have to have
00:56:53.100 been playing for six years already if you want to even play on your high school varsity team at one
00:56:57.380 that actually feeds into the top d1 programs and all of that and also i just think sports has gotten
00:57:02.880 so high end like you even see this with the nba you don't have nearly as many players who make
00:57:07.060 it to the nba where they played good street ball in the hood and then they turned that into actually
00:57:12.480 going to university and then into the nba they're all like these upper middle class or rich products
00:57:18.060 of basketball academies like steph curry's dad was like himself a pro basketball player if i
00:57:22.920 remember right or some other pro athlete like kids of athletes the athletes are marrying other pro
00:57:27.740 athletes and then having these kids who are these genetic supermen christian mccaffrey story his
00:57:32.740 both of his parents were collegiate athletes that were both like really fast like his mom was a
00:57:37.220 a track star and then like his dad i think was either a football player or whatever and so they
00:57:42.580 they birthed the one white running back well i guess scataboo now is the other one but he's
00:57:47.900 more of like a tank but it's like just like they actually joke about it it's like somebody had to
00:57:52.580 birth but it definitely is because they like combined it is definitely the like the assimilation
00:57:58.220 of team sports getting sucked into like focus on these like extreme terminal end goals like
00:58:04.880 potentially going pro i think another thing about it is or i think a lot of people end up in travel
00:58:09.600 living through their kids fomo though it's that it's fomo you're scared that your kid is going to
00:58:14.340 fall behind and so then once somebody starts doing it then everybody has to do it and it creates this
00:58:19.700 really negative bad like culture around it because when you know i was coming up it was like i was
00:58:24.760 expected to play all the sports i just yeah i just played a sport play this sport this scene you play
00:58:28.220 and it was with kids in your neighborhood you weren't traveling all the time it's like parents
00:58:32.000 do kind of ruin their lives it feels to me when you're a travel sport parent yeah you end up going
00:58:36.340 to a new tournament every weekend you're on the road all the time your life revolves around this
00:58:40.720 sport you spend thousands of dollars for a sport that let's be honest your child will almost
00:58:45.540 certainly not play pro they're not even that likely not even likely to pitch for the dodgers
00:58:50.280 yeah and they're not even that likely to probably do it in college go dodgers yep and it's just but
00:58:56.340 yeah on the striver culture thing i just think probably the thing that is most annoying with 0.86
00:59:00.240 asian style striver culture because that's who they're complaining about is it turns into what's
00:59:04.400 called you know a red queens race everyone is running in place to stay in the same spot and 0.64
00:59:09.960 like that happens so much and like it is really just engineering towards getting a high score 0.85
00:59:17.640 for the sake of itself yeah like what's the point of being like so dedicated to like one sport from
00:59:23.520 the time you're six to 18 if you're not if you're not going to be a millionaire because of it i mean
00:59:28.200 maybe you say hey there's no chance of being a millionaire if you don't do this but like come on
00:59:31.880 also so stressful over the kids kids were always so annoying dude jack were you a club kid club
00:59:38.320 sports what's a club kid traveling sports did you play sports sports travel yeah i played sports
00:59:43.840 but no i didn't do i need to travel yeah same i didn't do traveling clubs it was just like kind
00:59:47.860 of picking up when it is definitely i mean even with college sports this is i don't really care
00:59:52.240 for college sports for this reason so wait guys there's clearly this origin that came out of just
00:59:56.780 a good well you know schools were originally for men and it's like that a well-rounded
01:00:02.420 man was like a good athlete and a good team player and a good sportsman he also knew you
01:00:08.100 know he was liberally versed in different subjects we're totally going for that liberal arts ideal
01:00:11.920 and that's where you're getting the traditional team sports that u.s middle schools and high
01:00:17.280 schools have had they have a basketball team have a football team yeah have all of these things and
01:00:22.640 then because those were so popular and everyone did them and because we were a rich country we
01:00:27.200 have rich professional sports teams that are really popular and that has like bled back into
01:00:33.280 the original sports and sadly i think corrupted them and it's made it so they are either a super
01:00:39.560 lucrative thing into themselves or you play them because you're hoping to get into that super
01:00:44.720 lucrative thing and it's corrupted what was originally a very good thing to develop a
01:00:49.920 sportsman so guys i'm being told that we haven't quite defined striver culture that great yet and
01:00:57.420 people are still kind of confused and so like i'm not saying that people shouldn't strive right like
01:01:02.500 We're obviously not saying that we're conservatives, but it's it's the social phenomenon around hyper achievement.
01:01:09.720 I just I just did Google on this constant self-improvement for the sake of self-improvement, intense dedication to upward mobility, performative workaholism, measuring success by how hard, how long you work, hustle, radical self-optimization.
01:01:26.980 every aspect of life including sleep diet and hobbies tracked measured improve for overall
01:01:32.440 maximum efficiency status signaling achievements etc etc um you know throwing it all over your
01:01:38.980 linkedin perpetual dissatisfaction uh burnout imposter syndrome identity merging and these
01:01:46.960 types of things that you know really just take over your entire life as opposed to again you know
01:01:54.280 the type and keep in mind so keep in mind that in in america before we had the striver culture
01:02:02.920 of you have to study to get done the test to uh to pass the test we had we were the country that
01:02:09.740 won world war ii were the country that put a man on the moon were the country that did all of these
01:02:14.080 things without this culture without this culture whatsoever we built america from nothing uh to
01:02:20.160 from the ground up and we're able to do all these different things.
01:02:23.160 Well, we have Stryver culture in pretty different ways.
01:02:24.980 We also have work ethic.
01:02:26.380 Yeah.
01:02:26.760 I think that's one of the things.
01:02:28.560 No, those are different things.
01:02:29.040 It's not work ethic.
01:02:30.640 No, no, no.
01:02:31.120 But that's the point.
01:02:32.580 I think you've seen the – as you've seen this more Stryver culture kind of come out,
01:02:42.100 I think you've seen work ethic go the opposite direction.
01:02:45.700 And I think that's because a lot of this is focused on the parents.
01:02:50.160 like perfect example look at sports like we were using sports as the illustration right
01:02:54.780 the reason sports suck now is because of parents not the kids because parents have turned sports
01:03:02.960 into oh i have to relive my glory days through my kid or so i'm gonna push them have to do better
01:03:09.160 than or they have yeah exactly they have to have a shot at the mlb i mean there's so many things
01:03:14.760 that go into this like let's be real i think a big driver of any striving in the u.s is there's
01:03:20.260 a lot of there's a lot of class anxiety lifestyle anxiety because people can sense that the bottom
01:03:26.800 has totally fallen out on the low end of american life let's just really there's just a lot of
01:03:31.620 people who live very bad lives that are heavily self-inflicted they get into drugs they become
01:03:37.060 dependent and everyone's terrified their kid will fall into that so you strive hard and or you fear
01:03:42.600 living around it you fear not because we have high crime areas no one wants to live in a high
01:03:46.780 crime area about that with social media like compare that to you know europeans will say
01:03:51.560 they're more chill and because until they started making novel decisions around immigration you
01:03:56.220 could be a 25th percentile person in germany and it basically was no big deal because every
01:04:04.100 every neighborhood is safe you're basically guaranteed a good wage you're not going to 0.69
01:04:08.720 live in a totally desiccated urban environment but in the u.s that is the penalty if you're
01:04:14.580 in that 15th 20th percentile you can live in a pretty harrowing frightening environment so people
01:04:20.260 get worried about avoiding it and then this increases levels of competition social media
01:04:24.120 and it's also social media is a comparison machine yeah and it's also frankly a product of we have
01:04:28.700 a more meritocratic society that you can say america ran this way 100 years ago but also the
01:04:34.040 only way you were ever going to be an elite is you were from an elite family you went to a handful of
01:04:38.480 boarding schools, you wrote your lame John F. Kennedy essay to get into Harvard.
01:04:42.100 Maybe things are just getting more competitive, Jack.
01:04:43.960 Things are more competitive.
01:04:44.460 I think you guys are on a totally different tangent than the original topic, because that's
01:04:52.980 not really what the debate is about at all.
01:04:55.420 Well, we're talking about where the striver culture is coming from in America.
01:04:59.420 So there's a couple, well, we're talking about the difference between American culture versus
01:05:03.300 Asian striver culture, and the chat actually gets this pretty well.
01:05:06.100 So I want to read this one 777 Tia. She wrote in and said, I mean, from some Asian cultures, they only think a career in medicine or law or engineering is legit and everything else isn't a career to pursue like a basketball player.
01:05:20.220 And so I think that's a perfect example of trying. I totally agree. 1.00
01:05:24.820 And so it's like trying to fit, believing that everyone has to fit into one, you know, it's all the square pegs into every round hole.
01:05:33.500 Everything has to be the round hole versus the American idea of, which is just the more general American idea of, hey, everyone's got certain talents and your childhood should be based around figuring out what those talents are, what your interests are, and then, you know, trying to inculcate that and nurture that.
01:05:52.220 Hold on, pushing back on that.
01:05:53.540 i feel like i've heard endless complaints about boomers where because boomers will just say like
01:05:57.720 follow your passion you should just do do what makes you happy this is actually i'm with jack
01:06:02.480 and then people said boomers are leading people astray i just want to say though that this is not
01:06:06.060 dead in our culture it's very much alive because i will tell you 10 out of 10 people whatever 100
01:06:11.700 when i'm talking about my son case talking about team sports and stuff because i'm getting him into
01:06:16.340 little league and things everybody's just like when he's ready he's ready when he wants to do it
01:06:21.120 follow his passions but i mean people are giving me this unsolicited advice when it comes to like
01:06:25.380 my own son so i do think that this is very much still the american way but jack follow me here
01:06:31.420 so on the side of the ledger where we're talking about where is this driver culture getting re
01:06:36.000 injected or injected into the american zeitgeist i'm watching the playoffs right and i remember
01:06:44.080 10 years ago watching baseball and there were not this many guys throwing 100 miles an hour
01:06:49.280 like straight up everybody is throwing 100 miles an hour now like things are getting
01:06:54.240 like ratcheted up to the like very extremes of human ability when i was in high school the same
01:06:59.580 thing it was like every kid was throwing if you weren't throwing like 80 70 80 miles an hour you
01:07:05.140 weren't a pitcher well this is insane great the the days of like greg maddox throwing 88 and just
01:07:09.840 like paint in the zone are gone all these guys are throwing 98 to 104 like what's that there's
01:07:16.360 there's another aspect there's another aspect i wanted to also mention though is and i was i was
01:07:20.700 trying to get into it at the beginning is that it really is that americans do value teamwork
01:07:26.220 and that and so like andrew is is one of the things that you want your son to get out of
01:07:31.640 little league teamwork yeah i want him to be coachable i want him to learn how to take it
01:07:35.700 take commands from a coach and i want him to like you know have fun with his friends and learn to
01:07:40.460 enjoy that camaraderie totally right and so i'm i really think like 10 out of 10 that if you if
01:07:46.020 you asked parents that's that's going to be like one of the top answers you get out of every parent
01:07:50.500 still alive in america though i do i really do i know and i know and i argue that it is however
01:07:56.460 when you look at the statistics the groups that are the least likely to have their kids in team
01:08:01.820 sports are asians the least likely okay but they're also not as good as the tiger mom culture 1.00
01:08:07.880 this is the tiger mom culture 1.00
01:08:09.860 that is 0.99
01:08:11.240 100%
01:08:13.180 just dominated by
01:08:15.820 Stryver culture. Why? Because
01:08:17.420 their kids are going to be in, again,
01:08:19.520 you've got to be learning violin, you've got to be
01:08:21.740 learning piano.
01:08:22.400 I mean, a lot of this is complaining.
01:08:24.320 Who cares if they decide to prioritize
01:08:26.320 learning violin and piano?
01:08:27.860 Your kids aren't learning violin and piano in most cases.
01:08:30.560 Someone should.
01:08:32.020 My kids do learn piano. But it's not about who cares.
01:08:34.620 I hated piano.
01:08:34.960 the issue is about the cultures there's no because we talk about the blue banana i i always go back
01:08:41.900 to it's just one of the most fascinating things like ideas that i've ever thought about and blake
01:08:46.560 blake introduced me to it but we talk about there are certain special cultures that produce really
01:08:53.120 profoundly good things like progress humanity forward right so jack's point is actually legit
01:08:59.940 here because if striver culture is not the thing that has jet that has propelled america to land
01:09:07.380 on the moon and all these things and what is is more of this camaraderie finding your niche finding
01:09:12.960 your unique talent and then yeah letting that blossom what he's saying is then we are going
01:09:18.300 to jettison the very thing that that sort of was like behind operating in the in the firmament
01:09:23.460 operating in the software of the american culture that made us great and so we have to actually
01:09:28.060 identify it and protect it i actually i get that point but i think i think whatever we had a hundred
01:09:32.600 years ago is long gone unfortunate yes i don't think so man i don't think so we still that's
01:09:37.000 a hundred percent what i'm saying it's it's that you want to find the people who have the best
01:09:41.840 talents and then and which by the way which is another huge aspect of the h1b debate because
01:09:47.460 they claim that americans don't have talent and they bring in people um you know who are basically
01:09:52.400 scab labor for these it firms and by the way they shout out to the administration because i think
01:09:56.340 they're working on closing the top of funnel
01:09:58.420 on some of these H-1B to green card
01:10:00.280 programs. And the firm, they took on Microsoft
01:10:02.120 today with the firm. Yeah, dude, I saw that.
01:10:04.180 Microsoft, Adobe, Cognizant,
01:10:06.500 a number of these firms.
01:10:09.660 Yeah, but
01:10:10.180 here's why I don't think this is
01:10:12.240 gone. And this is actually where I disagree with
01:10:14.280 guys like Bannon. I actually told him this, but
01:10:15.980 I think this would be a fun debate for Bannon at AmFest.
01:10:19.000 And so I totally respect where
01:10:20.280 he's coming from. And Cernovich is the same way
01:10:22.260 where they don't like the tech bros. But I'm
01:10:24.320 sorry. I listen to Palmer Lucky and I'm like,
01:10:26.140 dude i like that guy he's freaking like on point and he's innovative he's you know he's what is he
01:10:32.400 building that like uh the the shipyard in maryland yeah i mean that's cool yeah it's like a
01:10:38.020 baltimore he's launching rockets into the first of all yeah yeah he's launching rockets catching
01:10:43.840 them and you know that like i mean elon musk is actually definitely an insane grinder when he was 0.50
01:10:48.960 young though so i don't know that we i don't i don't like this idea of i i push back on this
01:10:53.140 idea of innate talent because high skill is almost always talent combined are you a tabula
01:10:59.180 no no no i'm saying actual talent is like is no but then like serious talent yeah it's basically
01:11:04.420 grinding plus ability no no that is how you become super good at anything major nobody's saying that
01:11:09.840 that's not what we're talking about here what you're saying is okay i want my kids to actually
01:11:15.320 have fun for like while they're children and i'm going to observe them where they're naturally
01:11:20.560 gifted where they seem to have proclivities and talents and abilities and then i'm going to be
01:11:24.940 like you know what now i'm investing in that thing it's called i'm gonna i'm gonna nurture
01:11:29.800 that thing i'm gonna pour into that thing and by the way the kid's probably gonna love
01:11:33.200 doing that thing i mean what i would point out he's gonna grind one thing i would say that's
01:11:37.440 interesting though is if you go back earlier like you actually probably have less flexibility in
01:11:42.620 what you're able to study like peak like for example i was i was just reading about for example
01:11:46.680 peak peak victorian britain which insanely successful society and basically yeah you had
01:11:52.660 a pretty broad liberal education and they put a lot of emphasis on sports and it wasn't super
01:11:56.520 academic but what you actually had to study was remarkably rigid rigid and it was heavily
01:12:02.460 ancient languages if you can believe it like about half your study time was learning greek
01:12:06.620 and latin which is at least as you know much of a digression to learn about as violin or something
01:12:14.540 I actually think studying language and music is the one thing that has expanded my mind more than anything else.
01:12:20.760 Reading, of course, but, like, there's certain human activities.
01:12:25.240 I think that's why they thought it was important because I actually think it made people smarter and wiser, mastery of the English language.
01:12:32.760 But also then you can read the classics and understand how you got here.
01:12:36.300 So I think of it as a diversion.
01:12:38.260 Even to that point, if you look at, like, Greek and Latin, like, if you wanted to deep dive on the Bible, you can deep dive on some of the words that are used in the Bible.
01:12:48.060 Gives you great respect for the culture and the history and the civilization you're a part of.
01:12:52.100 Anyways.
01:12:53.200 I'm with you, Jack.
01:12:54.260 I get it.
01:12:54.560 Honestly, I think also, honestly, a lot of striving is also just a product of concentration of, like, a more concentrated elite class, a more concentrated economy, a more less distributed.
01:13:08.260 success prosperity and it makes people more competitive for what's seen as a handful of
01:13:12.880 spots like if you want to reduce everyone grinding to be a doctor we should just open
01:13:16.880 another few medical schools and have more doctors instead of importing them from abroad here's here's
01:13:21.680 that's obviously a huge huge issue because the ama always pushes back on on um opening more
01:13:28.120 opening more medical schools they're so they really really don't like that because they want
01:13:32.180 to keep that as a cartel do you think that this is uh in a weird backwards way contributing to
01:13:37.400 socialism because all this like massive anxiety of the downwardly mobile elite is actually there
01:13:42.540 it's actually this anxiety of fewer spots have to compete have to keep i don't know if it's driving
01:13:47.880 i think it's and then they and then they go screw it this is too hard there's definitely a lot of
01:13:51.620 people who watch out like i think the biggest driver of socialism is definitely not just young
01:13:56.060 people but it's a lot of like entitled sad millennials who feel they didn't get what they
01:14:00.740 deserve in life who actually didn't deserve it in the first place like a lot of them are actually 0.99
01:14:04.400 kind of pathetic but 1.00
01:14:05.960 downwardly mobile 1.00
01:14:06.940 caboose like that
01:14:10.160 caboose wait hold on
01:14:11.820 caboose yeah get in here
01:14:14.220 caboose you have to show yourself 0.96
01:14:16.380 socialism is for the lazy 0.87
01:14:18.420 yeah that's right 0.78
01:14:20.520 guy with the Godzilla by his name
01:14:22.600 you guys like that
01:14:23.620 I love that
01:14:24.560 hold on I want one
01:14:27.420 give him a different
01:14:29.520 a different cartoon logo though
01:14:32.360 you should give me like the coolest cartoon logo
01:14:34.280 and then Andrew
01:14:35.280 should have a much
01:14:35.920 lamer one
01:14:36.460 what's Jack get
01:14:37.620 Jack what kind of
01:14:39.520 do you want to
01:14:40.100 Jack's going to get
01:14:40.780 like a winged
01:14:41.300 Hussar or something
01:14:42.260 we're not socialists
01:14:43.680 here you guys get
01:14:44.380 nothing
01:14:44.700 what's going on
01:14:45.440 with the logos
01:14:46.920 no I want
01:14:47.720 Francisco Franco
01:14:48.640 okay alright
01:14:51.080 that's for a
01:14:51.880 different thought 0.98
01:14:52.400 crap 0.99
01:14:52.620 I'm going to have 1.00
01:14:53.240 to go look up
01:14:53.660 Francisco Franco's
01:14:54.460 early life to see
01:14:55.100 if he was
01:14:55.400 striver culture
01:14:56.040 or team sport
01:14:56.640 culture
01:14:57.040 he was just
01:14:58.880 probably team sport
01:15:00.160 I don't know
01:15:00.820 do they really do
01:15:01.420 team sports
01:15:02.220 well a weird thing
01:15:03.320 though is
01:15:03.600 team sports is not even a european thing it is only an anglo thing it is an anglo thing that
01:15:09.600 we brought to america but soccer they don't do team sports culture for soccer in latin america
01:15:15.640 like if you're if you're good at soccer in europe what happens is they identify you at like age eight
01:15:20.380 and you go to a soccer academy and you get like trained super hard and if you're not good at
01:15:25.240 anymore you wash out like you don't have your casual like you'll play it for fun but you don't
01:15:29.820 have that broad-based team sports
01:15:31.840 culture to nearly the same degree
01:15:33.580 in Europe as in America. They obviously still
01:15:35.720 play sports, but the entire
01:15:37.580 concept of every school
01:15:39.100 has a team for
01:15:41.760 five different sports, and you play all of them
01:15:43.820 growing up. That's totally a weird
01:15:45.880 English eccentricity that came to America 0.91
01:15:47.840 and spread around the world. Does Poland 1.00
01:15:49.720 have team sports?
01:15:51.780 Yes, obviously.
01:15:53.920 Blake, did you know that in the medieval era
01:15:55.800 there was something called mob football?
01:15:58.360 Yeah, just everyone ran around
01:15:59.600 after a ball and it was like 10,000 there was like no
01:16:01.680 rules other than just there was a
01:16:03.700 ball it was like extremely violent
01:16:05.700 so good this is why you didn't need
01:16:09.720 traveling sports back in the crazy
01:16:11.720 thing is Poland wouldn't need Poland wouldn't need
01:16:13.580 boring team sports because in Poland until
01:16:15.520 the 1700s it was just legal
01:16:17.560 for you to revolt against the king and like the king
01:16:19.600 was not allowed to be butthurt about it and he couldn't
01:16:21.860 he couldn't just like execute you just
01:16:23.700 because you revolted against the king
01:16:25.200 they actually referred to because the Polish king
01:16:27.520 under the confederation was was like a weaker king um it wasn't an absolute monarch so it was
01:16:33.320 like like very similar to you know the um uh the magna carta style of a monarch with the parliament
01:16:40.400 and in fact at at some point in american history they actually referred to the u.s presidency as
01:16:46.420 a polish king well let's hope not because it didn't end well because he was like right well
01:16:51.160 he was an elected well i mean look where we're at um so this was an elected monarch um and so
01:16:58.060 the idea that you would have a monarch with the powers of the monarchy but was elected
01:17:01.600 this has been fun yeah um we didn't get to i think we still should i think we i mean we've
01:17:10.780 got a lot of viewers and we still and by and by the way so i do want to summarize this that
01:17:15.560 we're not against striving right striving is good but the idea of going into this driver culture
01:17:21.720 thing that and this is where i'm at on this this is is something different this is beyond just
01:17:27.660 striving for what your innate talent is it's finding what you're good at or excuse me it's
01:17:33.320 finding something that you think you should be good at and then spending all of your time and
01:17:38.060 force and pressuring your kids to be so good at that that you can check some box or something
01:17:43.900 and then basically abusing them if they don't score well on test.
01:17:48.800 This reminds me of that.
01:17:49.820 And I reject that.
01:17:50.600 I just reject that.
01:17:51.400 This reminds me of that Malcolm Gladwell.
01:17:53.260 Wasn't it like the tipping point or something?
01:17:54.680 Or 10,000 hours.
01:17:55.500 Yeah, the 10,000 hour thing. 1.00
01:17:57.280 He's such a midwit. 1.00
01:17:58.560 He's like him and James. 1.00
01:18:01.200 Yeah, whatever.
01:18:02.160 What were you saying, Andrew?
01:18:03.340 Andrew, what were you saying?
01:18:04.620 It's fine.
01:18:05.180 Go ahead, Jack.
01:18:07.000 Oh, no, I was just saying I can't stand that guy.
01:18:08.480 It's like him and Jared Diamond are like the – they're like the deities for midwits.
01:18:16.220 But he has this interesting study.
01:18:18.500 I will say this part was interesting because I did read the book many, many moons ago.
01:18:21.720 But it was talking about what time of the year young hockey players in Canada were born.
01:18:28.600 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:18:29.240 And it's like it mattered if you were a little bit older because you got more – you would be bigger when you started playing and you'd get more –
01:18:37.480 not just more coordinated, but then you'd play a little bit better
01:18:39.520 so you'd get more resources and you'd get to
01:18:41.540 play more, become better over time
01:18:43.520 and a small lead turns into a big
01:18:45.580 one. Exactly.
01:18:46.580 I thought that was interesting. I think we should do
01:18:49.580 the AI test. We've got a big crowd. Let's do it.
01:18:51.180 Alright, awesome, awesome, awesome. So this is
01:18:53.820 a bizarre thing. There's so many
01:18:55.560 AI things that are going on, but we'll kick it off with
01:18:57.560 Griffin. This is an
01:18:59.660 AI video model that
01:19:01.580 basically simulates a Zoom call with somebody
01:19:03.700 and
01:19:04.780 apparently about 48% of people who talk
01:19:07.360 to it, the company claims, think they're talking
01:19:09.360 to a real person. They call it
01:19:11.180 passing the video Turing test.
01:19:12.960 A robot, they think it's human. Clip 19.
01:19:17.420 Alrighty.
01:19:18.140 Let's do this.
01:19:20.320 ASL, how's it going?
01:19:21.720 It's pretty late for you.
01:19:23.820 Have you thought any more about how we're
01:19:25.360 introducing Griffin?
01:19:27.500 I don't know. What are your ideas?
01:19:30.360 I mean, I think we should
01:19:31.220 stop trying to explain it and just
01:19:32.900 you know show them what it looks like do you think that we should just show a reporting of
01:19:38.060 us talking or something i think a video of just us like this would be the best way to actually
01:19:43.260 prove it do you think they'll believe that you're ai i think that's the whole point isn't it
01:19:48.580 if it's good enough they won't even have to think about it
01:19:52.680 now how about just a thumbs up
01:19:56.000 sure one thumbs up coming right up hell yeah that was awesome i would say you're my favorite
01:20:02.760 coworker it's been it's been really great to work on this with you you're making me blush ah who's
01:20:08.120 that with the ugly sweater yeah it definitely looks like it oh my gosh okay one percent you're
01:20:19.080 living on the edge hassan truly i'll keep my breathing steady so i don't drain your cpu any
01:20:24.440 faster wow you actually did slow down your breathing what am i watching there it's it's
01:20:31.960 like a back and forth so the the red-headed woman there it was ai the entire way the touring test
01:20:37.240 because when they showed her up close i was like her mouth was moving funky well apparently a lot
01:20:41.660 of people don't notice how people's mouths moves when they talk to them they might have mouth
01:20:44.660 slexia or something and i would have known that was yeah i don't think it matters a slowed down
01:20:50.700 like bit rate so the reason i wanted to talk about this though is not whether that specific
01:20:54.560 model passes it but we know if they're able to do this now in one year or two years you always say
01:20:59.660 all of that this is the worst ai well the worst the worst it will ever be going forward and so
01:21:06.560 if they're like that now i mean we remember what it was we're literally four years removed from
01:21:12.080 where like ai was you could ask an image like make an image of a house and you'd get like a weird
01:21:16.820 five-year-old's watercolor kind of smudge look chat gpt the first one that really went viral
01:21:21.740 that was fall of 22 and yeah and then it's like just gotten better and better and better
01:21:28.980 and so if they're able to make a sort of
01:21:31.280 wacky video that you know has weird moving
01:21:33.220 mouth we're clearly
01:21:34.820 48% of people who talk
01:21:37.180 to it live thought it was a real human
01:21:38.840 and previous systems had a pass rate
01:21:41.260 of 3% which means
01:21:42.520 maybe a year from now 2 years
01:21:45.260 3 or 4 years tops
01:21:47.100 we'll probably have a model of that
01:21:48.940 that 100% just seems like a real person
01:21:51.400 you could essentially have just
01:21:52.860 a person sitting on the Charlie
01:21:54.740 and so my thought crime is 0.99
01:21:56.380 we need to make it illegal to do this and if you try to create it you get executed boomers are 0.87
01:22:02.700 cooked because this is going to i i believe this this is going to destroy society like yeah i mean
01:22:08.700 one this will defraud a million people this will defraud countless numbers of people it's going to
01:22:14.740 be socially destructive like think of the people who are going to have relationships with this ai 0.96
01:22:19.660 robot they're going to have all their friends are just going to be these ai people they talk to 0.90
01:22:23.600 they'll have no real contact why would they talk to a real person who might disagree with them or 0.98
01:22:28.660 push back on them or have different priorities from them when they can talk to this pseudo person
01:22:32.920 in the ai machine it's going to put people into a bubble it's going to fry their brains they're
01:22:39.740 going to lose touch between what is real and what is robot it's bad enough now this is going to
01:22:45.980 absolutely be an a-bomb on society okay execution is a little bit dramatic though right i don't know
01:22:52.380 This is bad.
01:22:53.080 I don't know.
01:22:53.440 It's probably bad.
01:22:54.440 I mean, like, think about just – think about someone that you know that is over the age of 50.
01:23:01.380 But it's going to happen.
01:23:01.880 No, but just think about somebody who's over the age of 50. 1.00
01:23:04.600 Unless we do my solution, yeah.
01:23:05.860 Think about how many people are already getting scammed out of money, out of all sorts of things.
01:23:13.860 Now add an AI that's almost unrecognizable from an actual human.
01:23:20.420 These people are going to be just –
01:23:21.620 And more specifically, what I'm saying is I don't think there's any upside to these things.
01:23:25.420 I cannot articulate what is good about having a video that perfectly replicates a human being but is AI.
01:23:33.100 I don't see what's good about it.
01:23:34.480 Jack, I need to hear from you.
01:23:35.540 What's your thoughts?
01:23:37.740 So the thing is this is going to affect different buckets of people in different ways.
01:23:43.440 And I think that's the actual thought crime here is that there's always going to be people.
01:23:47.100 Like I watched that initial clip, and I was like, that's obviously AI.
01:23:50.340 I don't think it's a real person at all.
01:23:52.300 But there are going to be people that are completely fooled by it.
01:23:54.900 48%.
01:23:55.300 And they are going to, but I think that those 48%, I'd love to see the demos on that because I guarantee, I'm just going to say it, I guarantee that it's going to be like Gen X and older.
01:24:06.380 And I think that also you're going to have young people who just end up believing that, like, not believing anything they see online until it's, like, confirmed in a variety of ways because they're growing up with AI.
01:24:19.580 Isn't that what a Turing test is, though?
01:24:21.520 Isn't it supposed to be able to run it through an actual software or something that checks?
01:24:27.160 A Turing test is just the idea created by Alan Turing, the guy who was played by Benedict Cumberdatch.
01:24:32.280 And the idea that basically the Turing test is when you're interacting with a machine,
01:24:37.660 would you be unable to tell the difference between what is a machine and what is a real human?
01:24:41.140 Okay, so it's literally just a human being's ability to test, to see it with your senses.
01:24:48.180 Yeah, so for a true thing to pass a Turing test, it would be you'd do a Zoom call with a real person and then a Zoom call with this AI, and it would be truly 50% who you thought was a person.
01:24:57.020 Well, here's my concern.
01:24:58.160 Will AI get to the point where you cannot run it through an AI software test, and will the software not be able to figure out that the other software is AI?
01:25:08.800 Do you see what I'm saying?
01:25:09.800 Because it's software on software at that point.
01:25:12.240 Will the software become so good at gaming?
01:25:15.900 I mean, you know what I'm saying, right?
01:25:18.060 That'll be really
01:25:18.860 frightful for criminal justice.
01:25:21.820 Like, oh, you make video evidence and you can't tell
01:25:23.700 what's AI and what's... Literally, it's too good
01:25:25.540 and it's engineered to game that
01:25:27.580 kind of software. It could game it.
01:25:30.160 We're so doomed. There's a movie
01:25:32.120 that actually...
01:25:33.520 Mercy. I don't know if you guys saw it on Amazon
01:25:35.840 Prime. It's with Chris Pratt.
01:25:38.440 I didn't see it. But essentially
01:25:39.980 they create an AI
01:25:41.640 that if somebody is convicted
01:25:43.960 of a murder, they sit down in a chair and they have
01:25:46.060 12 hours
01:25:49.060 to convince
01:25:50.080 to convince the AI
01:25:51.580 that they are
01:25:52.880 not guilty
01:25:53.800 and they go through
01:25:55.060 and they essentially
01:25:55.820 have to become
01:25:56.360 their own
01:25:57.020 like detective
01:25:57.880 that's kind of a fun
01:25:58.740 concept actually
01:26:00.080 but yeah
01:26:00.800 this 0.98
01:26:01.140 we're screwed 0.94
01:26:01.940 this is not good 1.00
01:26:03.060 and boomers are gonna 1.00
01:26:04.560 this is gonna be hilarious 0.97
01:26:05.980 to watch boomers 0.91
01:26:06.860 fall for this 0.86
01:26:07.540 like over
01:26:09.440 and over
01:26:09.880 I actually wonder
01:26:10.600 if there's any
01:26:11.940 other dividing lines
01:26:12.920 like we're all saying
01:26:13.960 it's gonna be based on age
01:26:15.320 because you didn't come up with this but what if it's what if it's you know cultural what if it's
01:26:21.340 i think i think it is i think a lot of that i think a lot of it i think it'll cook i think
01:26:25.160 old people will fall for the oh i'm just scamming you pretending to be your grandkid you know but
01:26:29.720 those people have been vulnerable this just that's mainly a matter of making it just easier to do at
01:26:33.900 scale because those people have always been vulnerable to normal scams that to us are very
01:26:37.940 transparent but the cultural divide is going to be i think people who grew up with this it's going
01:26:43.700 to be very difficult if you were exposed to a lot of this stuff in elementary school in middle
01:26:48.800 school to recognize what's problematic about getting hooked on these things you have no frame
01:26:53.860 of reference and they're going to grow up very emotionally stunted i think well i'm an ai whether
01:26:59.560 or not so when you wait like when you say hooked on you mean like like having ai friends having ai
01:27:06.620 relationships maybe even ai significant others that type of thing like if you've just made it
01:27:11.100 a default like you talk to this as your ai assistant like you've helped it it's helped
01:27:15.440 you with your homework all the time and your parents are maybe absent and like yeah you just
01:27:19.900 you made it a normal thing to always be talking to this instead of a real person you'll be playing
01:27:23.920 video games with like an ai gamer buddy who it's and so now it's like you versus because it's like
01:27:31.700 in a in computer you know video games have always had computer players like or npcs but now like
01:27:37.040 your buddy is also an npc but it wow like i asked grok and grok says yes current ai detectors can
01:27:47.860 often be fooled and they are unreliable enough that many produce false positives on human how
01:27:54.220 do you know that it's not just doing that to ai check tools gpt zero uh turn it teenies ai
01:28:02.000 detector originality dot ai zero gpt and similar classifiers mostly score text on statistical
01:28:08.240 patterns token predictability burstiness perplexity and sometimes watermark like signals
01:28:13.780 those signals are not proof of authorship yeah yeah but on the other hand what i what's also
01:28:18.760 stood out though is like pangrams the big one for writing and it just anything written before
01:28:22.840 ais took off never gets triggered for it it's just pretty interesting mental health complications is
01:28:28.700 going to be insane too yeah i just think people's ability to interact with other human beings is
01:28:33.040 going to be really messed up when it's way too easy for them to basically play on easy mode
01:28:38.100 with an ai buddy who's not who's going to be super because they won't have differential to you 0.54
01:28:43.300 like think about claude if you ever work with claude everyone complains claude's a huge suck
01:28:47.140 up don't insult claude do not oh yeah verbally that's the other story that's going on right now
01:28:54.660 by the way for those who missed it
01:28:55.980 Anthropic who makes Claude they have updated their terms
01:28:58.640 of service to say
01:29:00.160 you cannot be abusive starting in
01:29:02.580 mid-November you cannot be abusive
01:29:04.420 or cruel. Oh but you still can't. Oh alright I got
01:29:06.560 time. Sweet.
01:29:08.060 You can't be abusive to it or else like it's violating
01:29:10.540 the terms of service and I think the best response
01:29:12.540 I saw from this guy it was
01:29:14.400 Mike Solano who does Pirate Wires and he said
01:29:16.280 if you think that this
01:29:18.620 AI is like sentient enough or conscious
01:29:20.580 enough that you can't be mean to it
01:29:22.180 aren't all the AI companies just giant 0.63
01:29:24.420 slave traders i'm gonna go ahead and be more abusive to ai starting immediately now you should 0.83
01:29:33.380 i still think you should not be bad for the ai but because it's bad for you it's bad for you 0.97
01:29:37.940 spiritually it's not a real thing yeah it doesn't matter it's the same reason actually like skynet
01:29:42.420 would it be like would it be okay for you to go home and like play a video game where you just
01:29:45.940 like torture 10 year olds to death no that would mess with you it's true same deal i think but
01:29:50.200 also sky if skynet becomes real they're run by libs you better make sure that you're saying
01:29:55.100 thank please and thank you yeah otherwise the funniest thing about it take over and then they
01:30:01.140 it's like it's like your judgment your ai judgment day where they go like back in 2026 if i'm gonna
01:30:06.760 be a human slave i want to be a house slave the funniest thing is by the way is that like they've
01:30:10.740 they've tested this and ais do work better like if you kind of are kind to know if you're kind 0.54
01:30:16.020 them and if you if you like really psychologically abuse them it psychologically breaks that iteration
01:30:20.760 of the ai and like it stops working well like you can basically torture an ai until it stops
01:30:25.540 working right stop it for real i've gotten the ais to at least mostly change their public answer
01:30:31.640 before i i had a i had a back and forth because because something it was something to do with
01:30:36.200 like what was that oh i think it was with the um that aspen video that everybody was saying was
01:30:41.980 like ai that or that we like edited or something like that and grok was agreeing with people that
01:30:47.440 we create we created a fake video and i was like no this is a real video so i started arguing with
01:30:52.560 grok and i gave grok more and more proof and i argued back and forth i don't know that i was
01:30:57.300 particularly nice to it but i wasn't even thinking on those terms i was just logically arguing and
01:31:02.520 then i had some other people in the office after i i ingested the new facts into grok and they
01:31:08.180 checked it and it was like it was probably like 70 percent of them had updated answers nice yeah
01:31:13.300 so it was interesting uh you can also by the way thank you to our bernardo seven who's now
01:31:20.080 a monthly supporter thank you so much thank you sir welcome and zuzu who says that jack should
01:31:26.600 not lump gen x in with the boomers oh yeah stop acting like them then stop acting like that's 0.72
01:31:33.660 you don't want to get lumped in 0.97
01:31:36.780 back to like them here's here's how it goes
01:31:38.880 boomer two or boomer one
01:31:41.140 based boomer two lib
01:31:43.060 gen x really
01:31:45.060 based gen x is great i mean the core of the
01:31:46.980 republican vote in every election
01:31:48.360 is early gen x
01:31:50.260 it's not boomers it's not old people it is early
01:31:53.080 gen x 1965 to like
01:31:54.780 like people who's people who like
01:31:56.560 basically came of age when ronald reagan
01:31:58.900 was in his first term that is the most
01:32:00.780 republican demographic in the country they had a good
01:32:02.900 country that was a good those were good formative years yeah great demographics great prosperity
01:32:08.040 law and order uh the urban core was not so great yeah um hey can we put up the the new t-shirts
01:32:15.120 again heidi did a great job on these i want to put up the the thought crime t-shirt um so these
01:32:20.640 are now available for pre-order we're gonna we're gonna get them turned around real quick though
01:32:24.380 and heidi is uh she's gonna be using her grok bot to help her with this or something uh but
01:32:29.460 those thought crime shirts get it today and by the way i love it because it's like a little subtle
01:32:33.960 ode to ck which is cool uh get them at the charliekirk store.com and then for those of you
01:32:39.620 who have not who are tuning in after we've done this already we have amfest the graphic drop by
01:32:46.160 the way i will tell you that just from the reaction i've gotten from everybody this is one of the
01:32:49.740 most successful amfest uh speaker drops that i've gotten and i can tell jack i don't know are you
01:32:55.140 getting this too i have probably 10 to 15 people text me going hey i want to speak at amfest
01:33:01.800 uh yeah i got a lot which is like joining augusta national like you have to be invited yeah you have
01:33:08.560 to be invited folks i mean i actually appreciate because like one of them i was like oh that was
01:33:12.660 i forgot about you totally forgot yeah and i was like oh that actually really cool no but president
01:33:17.920 trump no the problem is we're also going to have a bunch of debates that are like because i mean
01:33:22.460 we've got to schedule this whole thing out and there's only so many slots and
01:33:25.680 we're going to have a bunch of big debates and we want those to run a little
01:33:27.960 bit longer.
01:33:29.120 We should,
01:33:29.740 what I mean,
01:33:30.720 after,
01:33:31.380 after everything,
01:33:32.520 after I'll just show it out,
01:33:34.060 throw it out there right now.
01:33:35.000 But after everything that at the beginning of the episode,
01:33:37.700 Pete Hegseth,
01:33:39.520 there you go.
01:33:40.080 There's somebody.
01:33:40.680 Oh yeah.
01:33:40.960 Yeah.
01:33:41.400 Yeah.
01:33:42.060 I'll,
01:33:42.560 I'll,
01:33:42.900 I'll give him a shout for sure.
01:33:45.460 Pete should be.
01:33:46.060 And I did also mention it to him.
01:33:49.020 We're going to have that.
01:33:49.920 Maha.
01:33:50.320 Oh yeah.
01:33:50.900 There's a vision.
01:33:51.660 People have to understand that the first drop is just that.
01:34:02.700 It's just the first drop.
01:34:03.800 Some of the big names don't get announced until as we get closer and closer to invest.
01:34:09.200 Some of the big names could be right behind you right now.
01:34:10.680 We have a bunch of big names that are not on this, that are already confirmed.
01:34:14.380 Just to put it out there.
01:34:16.800 We just ran out of space, to be honest.
01:34:19.140 At some point, it's too much.
01:34:21.660 i will happily drop my head off that i can't you know it's it's uh whatever uh i think that's it
01:34:28.820 for today that was a fun show one that rocked thank you for everyone who joined in especially
01:34:32.680 if you're new if you came here off the front page because i mean it looks like that's where we were
01:34:37.760 if you're new here if you just remember this back in the day every uh every thursday 6 p.m eastern
01:34:44.420 thought crime thursdays we're live in the chat yeah we love to talk to you guys and i want to
01:34:49.940 the chat on the screen let's get that let's let's do that thing wait wait wait wait wait
01:34:55.080 you can unleash dark forces when you do that you can unleash dark forces when you allow people to
01:35:01.700 put it on screen and halt all right whatever we'll have to discuss this we'll have to discuss
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