The Trump administration is back in court today, this time for oral arguments and its appeal of a federal judge s decision to temporarily block the use of the 1798 Alien Enemy Act. Box office numbers for Snow White are looking sleepy. Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez drew a reported crowd of over 34,000 people in Denver. Attorney General Pam Bondi announces charges against three people in domestic terrorism attacks on Tesla.
00:02:42.500And, of course, we all know that the actress looks a whole lot dopey.
00:02:48.260In fact, I think that the actress playing Snow White looked more like Dopey the Dwarf than the actual Dopey the Dwarf, like, fake CEI thing that they put together in this because it's ridiculous and it's a joke.
00:03:01.960But here's what it comes down to, folks.
00:03:04.440Here's what it absolutely comes down to.
00:03:05.980They took this artwork, this piece of cultural heritage.
00:04:13.920They made it a woke, race-swapped, and believe me, race politics plays a huge injury in all of this, in all of this, a huge role in the entire film.
00:04:24.160That's why so many people are looking at it beyond, by the way, the insane comments from the actress herself saying,
00:04:31.680F you to all Trump supporters, don't come see my movie, the original is dated, attacking it, et cetera.
00:04:37.540This is a piece of revolutionary cultural segregation, it's cultural vandalism, it's cultural graffiti, and we need to stop giving money to people who hate us.
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00:06:38.500I want to bring on here Joshua Lysak, the co-author of the best-selling book, international best-selling book, Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them, now also available in Europe.
00:06:52.300It's being translated into a number of European languages and there's kind of this interesting process that goes on where like we don't really have control of the book anymore because the publisher runs that.
00:07:03.280Even though the publishers were books, I suppose I could just ask Bannon because he wrote the board to this thing.
00:07:07.660But it's, yeah, we just found out it's been translated into German and it's just blowing up all over Europe.
00:07:14.380So, you know, there's a new wave of pieces coming out on us and attacking us and it's all so wonderful.
00:07:20.020I just wanted to bring them on. Joshua, how are you, my friend?
00:07:22.940I'm doing pretty well, Jack. Thanks for having me on today.
00:07:25.960Yes, yes. So, Joshua, walk me through. So, we're talking about Germany.
00:07:29.660Well, there's a German fairy tale called Snow White or whatever they call it in German talk and has now been culturally eviscerated by Disney.
00:07:41.420Audiences are not responding the way that I think Disney hoped for.
00:07:45.620This is on par with the Tim Burton's complete flop Dumbo, which then, you know, was only made for $170 million.
00:07:54.400This one's made $270 million budget, not even including the marketing.
00:07:59.920Why is it that cultural Marxists seek to destroy, defile, and alter the fabric of these time-honored myths and stories and allegories throughout our history?
00:08:15.060Subversion is necessary in order for any kind of communist project, even cultural communism, to be successful.
00:08:25.440I'm pretty sure that the reason I first ended up on your radar, Jack, a number of years ago was I wrote a thread that became the top story of social media and the news almost three years ago now about the Mary Sue trope.
00:08:40.840It got like 13 million views, and then I wrote a follow-up that got a couple million more.
00:08:45.800And it's this idea that instead of the normal protagonist following the hero's journey, going through this inward and outward transformation, going from weak and non-courageous to being strong and successful and sacrificing, that's a typical male hero's journey, right?
00:09:03.300Modern storytelling, particularly since the hero goes off and slays the dragon, and he gets the girl.
00:09:09.180That's right. Slays the dragon, gets the gold, and wins the girl.
00:09:13.420That's the sort of hero's journey that every—it's called the monomyth of Joseph Campbell.
00:09:17.380Well, what cultural Marxists have done, because the isms tend to follow each other, they tend to go in clusters.
00:09:25.040Socialism, communism, and then second-wave feminism, sort of the pantsuit girlboss phenomenon,
00:09:31.620well, a girl can do anything, a man can, but better, is the trope of the Mary Sue.
00:09:38.380And so we've had a number of characters, the sort of the Ray from the Star Wars sequel to G.
00:09:44.960Here on Human Events, we can also refer to that as the Nancy Mace.
00:17:05.760But, you know, being fathers or parents in a world like this is our kids are subjugated to the propaganda of Disney
00:17:15.740where they're not given the true stories.
00:17:18.760This is why you need things like Angel Studios.
00:17:21.160This is why you need things like a good perch environment to bring your kids into so that they understand, by the way,
00:17:26.980that it's not just you showing them the stuff at home, that they're the whole groups of people that don't agree with what the mainstream is pushing.
00:17:34.340Because I guarantee you, these propaganda operations will seep through any bubble you try to construct for your children.
00:17:39.900And number two, at some point, if you shelter them too much, right, you can shelter them too much,
00:17:47.340the bubble will burst and your kids will go insane when they turn into teenagers.
00:18:44.340Now, of course, the scene that we're seeing on screen right now is the scene where the prince is kissing what is believed to be the poisoned and passed away Snow White.
00:18:52.200And, of course, that is a feminist trigger that is a non-consensual kiss.
00:19:00.260They just go from zero to 60 and they take their own personal dysfunction, their own wounds, and they emotionally project and eject.
00:19:12.020And it's a bit of a projectile vomit of words salad upon everything.
00:19:16.620And so, in order to cope with their own negative experiences in life, perhaps a broken heart they've had, they have to steal, kill, and destroy.
00:19:27.620Those people who engage in what we call in the book Unhumans, we call it unhuman activity, where it is, as Jesus said in the Bible, steal, kill, and destroy.
00:19:37.480That is what they do every single time.
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00:22:06.180All right, we've got Joshua Lysak on here, the co-author of Unhumans, a book, and we need to talk about all this activity that we've been seeing, the unhuman activity of the Tesla terrorists, Luigi Maggioni, these massive quote-unquote populist rallies that seem to be going on from the populist left with AOC.
00:22:25.840But there's some interesting talk about whether or not those people, there's this thread going around on Twitter, and Zero Hedge has it up, saying that almost 90% of them have been to multiple Kamala Harris rallies.
00:22:41.200There's always been multiple Kamala Harris rallies, but that's because I do this for a living.
00:22:44.500I can't imagine anyone doing this, but I do remember that when we went there, we literally filmed the buses dropping off Kamala Harris quote-unquote fans.
00:22:56.640I'm the guy who broke the story, along with my brother Kevin Posobiec.
00:23:01.180So, Joshua, when we see this wave of violence that's been sparked against the Teslas, specifically the Tesla terrorists, growing swastikas on them, setting them on fire, peeing them, people performing lewd acts on Teslas, which, by the way, gets into the deranged, degenerate sexuality of the left.
00:23:22.500What's interesting to me is that Tesla itself, as a symbol, and perhaps you can help explain this to us, Tesla, when it was first created and conceived of and introduced in America, it was from the left.
00:24:02.180How is it that this symbol has gone in just a few short years from the almost a leftist avatar, something they worshipped in a sort of quasi pseudo religious fashion, which I'm dead serious, by the way.
00:24:15.920That's exactly what Gaia worship and ego worship is, to the point where they are now actually destroying it and claiming that it is somehow right coded.
00:24:25.420Because, probably if I'm wrong, but I believe anything's changed with the cars themselves, right?
00:24:46.040What we have to understand about the left is that there's not a coherent philosophy, there's not a coherent worldview or religion.
00:24:53.360Those who are true believers of the left are people who are reactionary towards that which is successful, beautiful, strong, popular.
00:25:05.460And so those things that they deem to be strong, successful, popular, beautiful, they are anti due to that resentment, that cruelty, that envy.
00:25:17.120And so this is how we began to first notice Trump derangement syndrome and now Elon derangement syndrome.
00:25:23.600We saw the most recent numbers from MSNBC, of all places, that Elon is now less popular than Donald Trump.
00:25:31.740He's more unpopular than Donald Trump amongst Democratic voters.
00:25:36.800And it's because, yes, we have this great president and Donald J. Trump, those of us who are populists and nationalists.
00:25:42.720But then they have Elon Musk, who is literally the richest man in the world.
00:26:23.680They achieve that because, as a reactionary movement, it is easy to sway this movement.
00:26:32.640And the reason it's easy to sway it is because the left, for all of their ills, is effective at organizing.
00:26:38.280Getting what Steve Saylor calls a coalition of the fringes.
00:26:43.040Those people, if we look at, let's call it the physiognomy of all of these protesters and vandalists and, frankly, bioterrorists who are attacking citizens and their Tesla vehicles, if we look at all of them, let's be frank.
00:27:02.700Many of them are still in their pajamas, let's say.
00:27:06.540We have, we may call some of them diabetes Americans.
00:27:10.600This situation here with the protesters and the attackers.
00:27:13.980They are generally not financially successful.
00:27:17.200If we look at them, probably many of them have significant student loan debt, no full-time employment prospects, not successful, not wealthy, and probably no home.
00:27:27.340They probably have two or three roommates.
00:27:28.800They play video games and engage in other vices throughout the day.
00:27:33.260And so they are the opposite of everything that Elon Musk and Donald Trump and the right-wing heroes like J.D. Vance are.
00:27:41.040And because they speak so much about empathy, we understand the lady doth protest too much.
00:27:48.720And so what we're actually witnessing is emotional projection.
00:27:51.440Well, the only way I would imagine myself being a traitor to the left is if I were, like, literally a Nazi.
00:28:00.360So therefore, you must, like, literally be a Nazi.
00:28:02.580And they start to glitch out and twitch out like that.
00:28:24.760And they're not really starving or artists for all the stereotypes of the left.
00:28:28.980And isn't there another angle to this as well in a sense that they're taking the win away from Trump by saying, so in 2016, and I used to talk about this for years,
00:28:43.140that when I was in plotting against the president with Emmanuel Milius, I explained, the reason that Russiagate was created was to create a false reason for why Trump was able to steal the election.
00:29:28.720And if you go, and I guarantee you, if you talk to someone who's a committed, as you call them, Facebook Americans or NPR Americans, they will tell you that Elon stole the election for Trump.
00:29:38.400And they can't quite explain it because the media hasn't really gotten there.
00:29:41.060But they'll claim that Starlink did something with the voting machines.
00:29:45.100And, you know, they'll sort of just try to paper over that and say, well, somehow Elon used his magic powers to steal the election for Trump.
00:29:52.620And, therefore, Elon's actually the one.
00:30:02.020Tesla must be destroyed the same way that, you know, even when Stalin kicked out Trotsky, he had to go track down Trotsky and have him murdered with an ice pick in Mexico.
00:30:11.140Because anyone who crosses the line, anyone who goes against the revolution must be killed and destroyed, which, by the way, Elon still, as far as I'm aware, still sells Tesla.
00:30:21.960You could buy one right now if you really wanted to.
00:30:24.020I'm personally fine with my cars, you know, American-made and, you know, good old Fords and Chevys in the Pozo household.
00:30:30.840But, you know, I'm still going to do this.
00:30:33.520The point is they've changed the anchoring of the symbol to be something that is now evil, something that must be destroyed.
00:30:40.360And to your point, they don't actually believe any of this stuff.
00:30:45.780They just have a hatred of various things, various people, various classes, various groups.
00:30:51.220This is what the Unhumans book describes.
00:30:53.400Throughout history, this is always what is done.
00:30:55.660Sometimes it's done in an economic sense.
00:30:58.540That's what we saw typically in Spain, in France, and in China.
00:31:04.980But particularly in Russia, you saw it take on this theological stance.
00:31:46.160It's all about hatred of affluent white males and particularly Christians, even though Elon isn't really a religious guy.
00:31:55.820Christianity goes in there as well because Christianity is directly associated and truly associated with the centralism to the history of Western civilization.
00:32:12.660It's all emoting, and I want to bring up, again, the emotional projection, which they claim we're the people of empathy.
00:32:19.140They talk about empathy so much more than anyone else that you'll hear.
00:32:22.080And I like to use the expressions of NPR Americans and Facebook Americans because those are categories that are predictive of how people on the left are going to react.
00:32:31.080So the NPR Americans, they are the people who listen to NPR, the New York Times.
00:32:35.320They talk about how informed they are, unlike those low-information Trump supporters.
00:32:57.100Because when it comes down to it, when it really comes down to it, this is the worst possible form of persuasion.
00:33:04.080They are the ones, actually, who have been propagandized because they say, I am more informed than you because my sources are true and yours are not.
00:33:12.500Whereas when you come on to the right, what do you hear?
00:34:34.600And you said this morning 20 years in jail and then maybe they'll go to one of these prisons in El Salvador.
00:34:42.520Do you think with the way that the judges have been issuing injunctions, it would be easier or harder to send these Tesla domestic terrorists to a jail in El Salvador than these MS-13 or Trendy arrival guys?
00:34:55.160Well, I view these people as terrorists just like others.
00:34:58.400When I looked at those showrooms burning and those cars, not one or two, like seven, eight, ten burning, exploding all over the place.
00:35:07.320All right, Jack Posovic, and we are back.
00:35:10.280Now, we're talking about the Tesla terrorists, but there's also something that really kicked off all of this.
00:35:17.020And look, you know, it's almost like we're on with Joshua Lysak, the co-author of Unhumans, the book.
00:35:22.740And Joshua, it's almost like the book that we wrote in 2024 has predicted everything that is happening in 2025.
00:35:28.920And that is, of course, the Luigi Mangione movement.
00:35:33.100And it is a movement, by the way, which you have celebrities that are endorsing, like Bill Burr.
00:35:38.620You also have Law & Order running a very sympathetic episode.
00:35:43.260Not empathetic, but sympathetic episode towards Luigi Mangione, making him a martyr, making him a folk hero, casting him as almost like a Robin Hood sort of character for committing this murder.
00:35:55.680And look, you know, OK, OK, alleged, alleged, but it's kind of funny where you talk to a Luigi Mangione supporter and you say, you say, well, I think he did it.
00:36:03.920And they'll say, well, I don't think he did it.
00:36:05.040Well, if he didn't do it, why do you support him?
00:36:08.020You obviously support him because you think he killed a health care CEO.
00:36:10.900And so who happens to be, by the way, a white affluent male, which is part and parcel to all of us because they keep saying that way to trip up the cultural Marxists is say, would you support Luigi Mangione if the health care CEO would be black and in a same sex marriage?
00:36:23.900No, you wouldn't. Of course not. None of them would.
00:36:26.000That's how you know this isn't actually about health care.
00:36:28.800It never was. So Law & Order does this episode.
00:36:33.320They said that in the Law & Order episode, apparently, Magione wasn't attractive enough.
00:36:38.980That's according to an editorial intern there at The Daily Beast who wrote that episode.
00:36:44.900Her name is Claire Donaldson, the editorial intern.
00:36:48.800Very important commentary there. Not attractive enough. Great review.
00:36:51.660Joshua, what is it about the Luigi Magione phenomenon that I understand why we got this?
00:36:59.940What is it about history that they have missed, particularly with the Bolshevik revolution and the rise of Leninism, that the mainstream right seems to have missed?
00:37:09.460Yes. So I like to say that following the Bible, Unhumans is the second most predictive, successfully, book of Western civilization with no close third place.
00:37:21.360And the reason why Unhumans is so successfully predictive and prophetic is because we fundamentally understand what the far left is.
00:37:29.360We call the Unhumans, we call them the people of anti-civilization.
00:37:39.040It is Law & Order that keep communities safe so kids can ride their bicycles before the streetlights come on and even afterwards and they'd be safe.
00:37:48.580Anti-civilization is everything that opposes all of what I just described.
00:37:52.920And so when you have someone like Luigi Magione come along, this is clearly anti-civilization, committing murder on the street.
00:38:02.800Understand that the Bolshevik revolution of 1917, which, by the way, launched the very same day of the first feminist holiday, going back to the Mary Sue piece and Snow Woke, internationally...
00:38:14.260Wait, wait, Joshua, Joshua, real quick, real quick.
00:38:16.300What was the first country in the history of planet Earth to legalize abortion?
00:38:32.420Everything is anti all that is good and just and beautiful in this world.
00:38:35.900So you have a stone-cold killer like Luigi Magione allegedly is.
00:38:40.180And, okay, he becomes a hero for the people of unhumanity, that which wants to undo everything and all the rights to life, liberty, and property.
00:39:09.380His older brother, who had previously attempted to roll out a communist revolution in Russia, including political assassinations of the Tsar's family, he was caught and he was executed for that.
00:39:22.880And that gave Vladimir Lenin the martyr story, in his mind, moral superiority to ultimately exact revenge on and resulting in the murder of the Tsar's entire family.
00:39:38.520And they say, well, it's just a little bit of retribution and revenge.
00:39:42.220And as the left likes to say, it's only fair.
00:39:45.480So when they say, well, well, white men had it good for so long, so it's only fair that it's their turn over the barrel, they'll say.
00:39:52.720They use the, like, use fairness a lot.
00:39:54.720And this is how you point out that if it was a black gay gentleman who was the UnitedHealthcare CEO, of course they wouldn't, right?
00:40:01.380It's, well, he was a white male and therefore he deserved it.
00:40:04.340If you talk to people who are true believers on the left, who go to these protests, who wave around the signs with Tesla and they replace the S with the broken cross, the swastika, or they have a protect our democracy sign at these protests.