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00:00:28.440 It's the D1 Glazer, Ariel Helwander

00:00:31.440 D1 Glazer, bro, is pretty bad

00:00:34.660 This guy's a D1 Glazer

00:00:36.200 And you know what? I think you meant it 0.95

00:00:37.740 Why did you moan at Rampage Jackson when he showed you his abs?

00:00:41.000 He just did

00:00:41.500 Every month, every two months, a high school classmate will be like

00:00:45.220 Have you seen this? And they send it to me

00:00:46.660 I'm like, yes, I was in the interview, I was there

00:00:48.360 White House, is it possible that this fight actually happens?

00:00:51.500 I would be shocked if it doesn't happen

00:00:53.000 Chances it's Jones-Aspinol

00:00:54.660 I think that could happen too

00:00:55.640 Do you think Jones has been ducking him?

00:00:57.100 Yes, I think WrestleMania was not great.

00:00:59.440 I was not a fan of the John Cena heel turn.

00:01:01.700 I'm a little disappointed in Cena.

00:01:03.640 We're watching like a midlife crisis happen.

00:01:05.680 I wish he would be more like me and just be himself.

00:01:08.260 I hate the Pacers.

00:01:09.060 I hate the Pacers.

00:01:09.840 Can I just say something?

00:01:10.560 What?

00:01:10.960 Come on, come on. 0.99

00:01:12.680 That f***ing shtick with the choking after game one. 1.00

00:01:15.580 Like he looked like such a D1 f***ing loser. 0.98

00:01:19.720 2016, when I broke the Brock Lesnar news, I was banned from the UFC. 0.93

00:01:23.500 are you upset that your relationship with the ufc and dana white has unfolded the way it has

00:01:27.880 we've had conversations do i leak it oh i think you did on one of them what never you did the

00:01:32.600 connor thing that is not true yes it is no it's not yes it is can i be honest with you yeah let's

00:01:36.580 go regarding you being a d1 glazer yeah it gets worse it gets worse oh no everyone what you guys

00:01:43.880 dude i don't know if i'm gonna wear headphones today

00:01:54.300 it might be a game time decision what what do you think i mean i already have mine on this is

00:02:00.160 how i shut out the real world and go into the pretend world but i'm hungry i know don't be a

00:02:04.680 oh thanks thanks dylan i guess that hunger's a wrap

00:02:09.480 must be nice to say i'm hungry and someone just throws a sandwich yeah welcome to being rich

00:02:15.540 yeah it doesn't happen to me are you hungry that much if you said you said you're hungry

00:02:19.760 i bet you get a sandwich someone say something hey no no i'm good i'm good i'm good thank you 0.98

00:02:25.160 throw it anyways throw it anyways it's probably uh poisoned or some shit what the f dude dudes 0.93

00:02:32.580 we what what you're really me you're really mean to him dude i saw the area yeah i saw the clip 0.91

00:02:40.740 what clip just where you just i don't know dude you just said some stuff that just wasn't

00:02:45.860 super have we started is this official yeah yeah okay first of all when you gave me that nice hug 0.98

00:02:50.720 over there i was i was trying to make sure that there wasn't a knife in my back from the fucking 0.83

00:02:56.480 clip let me look can i set it up for you guys yeah here i am on the zone the great kate scott 0.97

00:03:03.780 is by my side formerly known as kate abdo they tell us okay we have time to fill logan paul is

00:03:08.520 going to join us in my mind i say a you know friend companion yeah mutual colleague respect

00:03:17.900 100 he knows how to fill time he knows how to kill time he's a uh you know he's an entertainer

00:03:24.520 by the way i've watched almost every episode of this podcast i've never seen logan eat in the 0.92

00:03:28.420 middle of the podcast so that first off disrespect right off the bat okay i know i'm not fucking uh 0.96

00:03:34.320 you know triple h here but for the fucking hell these guys eating okay i understand i'm low on 0.96

00:03:39.280 the totem pole fine there i am i say let's have some fun let's cut some promos they just had an 0.99

00:03:45.100 event in riyadh let me build this guy up let's do a good little shtick right i'll be his wise man

00:03:50.140 i'm jewish paul hayman it was finally your big yes yes this was my shot and then it's a loud

00:03:55.780 place there's all these kids and he turns to his you know one of his jabroni cameramen and uh no

00:04:00.880 disrespect i don't think it was you i don't think it was another guy i think i think he's saying to

00:04:06.140 the cameraman like yo this guy's good man like we should do something together cool a couple weeks

00:04:12.220 later can i sit can i can i keep going or can i break the fourth wall no you're good kayfabe uh

00:04:17.140 wwe unreal everyone's breaking kayfabe okay i get a dm from him saying like hey man you know

00:04:21.960 actually first i get the dm and i say to my wife who's in the car with me like oh this is probably

00:04:27.400 logan inviting me to be a part of his like thing like i said i said oh i killed it so bad this is

00:04:34.780 probably logan inviting me to be like his guy his wise man his oracle his advocate play the thing

00:04:41.860 out loud my daughter's in the car as well i play the voice note out loud guys this is me

00:04:47.060 i'm gonna get the coolest points here right hey bro uh just wanted to give you a heads up uh you

00:04:52.860 know my my latest vlog just came out and there's a period there where like you're bigging me up and

00:04:57.100 then i turn to the camera and i say this guy's a d1 glazer bro now i had notes i had notes but my

00:05:04.740 editor he like he missed that note he missed that note oh my god he never misses but he just so

00:05:09.380 happened to miss that note of course me being the youtube expert that i am i know that you could

00:05:14.540 even go back to the back end of youtube and edit it i mean that's too much work it's literally 0.98

00:05:18.600 just sitting there takes hours to process it's hours to process my ass it takes 10 minutes 0.89

00:05:23.380 i have so much respect we got a good thing but that was just me being the bad guy i say let me 0.98

00:05:29.760 see what this clip is all about and there it is this guy's a d1 laser bro and then i showed it

00:05:34.980 to my kids my boys who are 13 and 11 and the the hurt that they felt in their heart no yeah they

00:05:41.640 felt like you had not only stabbed me in the back but them in the back they took no bottles that

00:05:46.420 they have all over their room emptied them out flush them down the toilet no come on dad good

00:05:52.100 prime bring us the i'm not going to say the other the other competitor bring us the other ones we're 0.53

00:05:56.020 done with this guy d1 glazer bro is pretty bad is pretty bad and you know what i think you meant it

00:06:02.500 i don't think this was i don't think this was i don't think this was a gimmick i don't think this

00:06:08.020 was kayfabe and and here who has had your back more than me who has had your back more than me

00:06:13.040 who who who has mike well in the media space he stabbed me in the back a lot of times too man

00:06:18.200 and he stabbed me in the back true true maybe that's a sign gotta get it back yeah no no and

00:06:23.500 so i i felt some sort of way and i actually didn't say anything about it for like two weeks

00:06:26.940 but it kept building up yeah dude you you you you delayed i thought i had made it out of the d1

00:06:32.920 glazer to see if you were going to go into the back end and just take that out but you didn't

00:06:37.100 you wanted it out there i left it in yeah you wanted and but let me just clarify because my

00:06:40.560 editor geo how did you another jabroni no no not geo no you can't no this guy's a ninja yeah yeah

00:06:47.120 and he never misses a note yeah how did you miss this one he technically kind of didn't i wasn't

00:06:52.680 i'll be honest all right i'll just be okay we're breaking all the kayfabe i said it twice you said

00:06:58.800 it twice in the back too oh is that what happened he caught one of them what because i was like

00:07:06.420 remove the d1 glazer like me and are all cool why just remove one no i think i think no i think i

00:07:12.300 think he thought my note was remove the one and the first one was even crazier it was worse it was

00:07:17.340 it was it wasn't like there was no gap but we were talking like this and i just turned and went

00:07:22.580 this dude's a d1 glazer like on the broadcast yeah it was smooth wow yeah dude you didn't see

00:07:28.420 what i was doing or at least you didn't appreciate it what do you what do you mean i was trying to

00:07:32.120 put you over as they say in the oh no i know that's why i call you d1 glazer yeah but that's

00:07:35.560 not a compliment but but he's but he's playing that he's playing the heel role yeah but you

00:07:41.400 thought you were going to be a part of the heel team because then he tells me i wanted it out and

00:07:45.000 it's still in you want to be part of team six which by the way is a heel move is a heel move

00:07:49.400 to tell me you wanted it out but they left it in and you couldn't take it out yeah you seem

00:07:52.840 you seem deeply offended no i'm good it's actually probably better for my street cred to be at odds 0.61

00:07:59.000 with you do you think you are a d1 glazer though is there merit in this statement towards who you

00:08:05.100 in particular i just feel like in general there could be a lot of glaze coming from you really 0.54

00:08:10.100 this is actually counter to what most people say i was gonna say they say i'm a hater yeah d1 hater 0.72

00:08:15.640 yeah maybe he just really likes you by the way what's worse being a d1 hater a d1 glazer

00:08:20.740 d1 d1 haters are whack dude yeah definitely i feel like i feel like you kind of are a little 0.98

00:08:27.380 bit of a hater sometimes now i'm gonna switch up fucking hell i'm the worst i'm 50 each can i be 0.97

00:08:35.500 honest with you yeah let's go we're being honest right now all right regarding you being a d1 0.99

00:08:40.420 glazer yeah you feel bad it gets worse it gets worse yeah holy shit guys oh no both of you 0.96

00:08:48.600 i was gonna bring merch too not just us dude oh no the whole crew the whole crew everyone 0.99

00:08:55.340 what fuck you guys pat two yeah oh my god pat two yo these are these are available right now 0.98

00:09:05.000 on fanatic in collaboration with uh wwe whose network we're in now in get these over on fanatics 0.99

00:09:12.600 guys it's the ariel hawani d1 glazer shirt with fanatics and wwe the printing is a little sus

00:09:17.460 well they've got a better version it's a prototype it's actually not bad i wanted to make one i got

00:09:22.240 one for my daughter okay i thought you were gonna say you got one for me wow no we have one for you 0.69

00:09:27.060 oh you do yeah i can't quite fit into that one holy shit i'm actually kind of honored you might

00:09:33.100 he might be one of the first you're wearing how many merch impulsive merch yes this is a big deal 0.66

00:09:38.020 oh that's for your kids wow you know what this is a big deal hey actually kind of feels like an

00:09:45.760 olive branch if i'm being honest is there a wwe logo on this yeah part of the family wow thanks

00:09:51.880 guys who made the trips was it geo that our editor okay okay printing i have to say is like

00:10:00.020 a two out of ten i mean dude it's actually not a fanatics oh no it's not yeah their stuff is way

00:10:05.560 nice we are we are in the you guys look great though thanks man look i look i don't look i

00:10:10.640 really do like you a lot and i've been meaning to have you on this podcast the issue is i'm a little

00:10:16.180 bit of a joke thief and when someone in my crew says something funny i'll basically hijack it okay

00:10:22.380 and i turn around and kevin said him right there this guy that jabroni he goes he goes he goes

00:10:29.440 that dude's a d1 glazer i was like that's a that's a nice did you know of the term before i know what

00:10:34.600 a glazer is i've never heard of d1 d1 is like obviously the highest level of glaze is well i

00:10:39.180 would imagine yeah d3 glazer yeah that's like a little bit lighter yeah uh i never heard that

00:10:45.080 um if i'm being honest i didn't really mind because i feel like look you know like any sort

00:10:51.040 of any sort of animosity is good is good for business as they like to say um but i did sort

00:10:56.960 of feel like if you really were bothered by it you could have went out there and edited it

00:11:01.280 yeah that's true i i didn't even think about that i totally could have no it's all good listen

00:11:06.240 i made it onto the vlog it's a big deal listen guys generally under the uh impression like if

00:11:10.800 something's online it's there and so i was like you know what i'm just gonna i'm just sleeping

00:11:14.520 this bed that i made no it's all good okay now that the big news for the unemployed section of

00:11:18.580 the podcast is over can we introduce our own in the unemployed i mean come on dude this was fun 0.95

00:11:23.340 and games let's talk about some real shit let's talk about some combat sports all right let's go

00:11:26.500 let's what's what say something nice about it yeah usually you have like a long he's gonna do 0.96

00:11:30.560 it right now yeah all right do i even get that yeah i'll give you bites i'll give you an intro

00:11:33.640 but I'll be honest

00:11:34.280 my intros have got

00:11:35.160 they're so bad

00:11:36.380 all I do is say

00:11:37.540 ladies and gentlemen

00:11:38.180 and then I say the guest

00:11:39.460 let me see if I

00:11:40.640 yeah I could see if I could

00:11:41.540 because I've known

00:11:42.220 I mean

00:11:43.260 I mean let's see

00:11:44.840 ladies and gentlemen 0.99

00:11:48.180 it's the D1 Glazer

00:11:49.340 Ariel Helwana

00:11:50.200 I was going to say

00:11:53.260 I was going to say

00:11:53.980 like the voice of MMA

00:11:54.920 the mind behind

00:11:57.280 mixed martial arts

00:11:58.680 legend of commentary

00:11:59.820 legend commentary

00:12:01.100 combat sports

00:12:01.980 15th time

00:12:02.560 15 time journalist of the year 15 time defending in a row consecutive 15 often imitated never

00:12:10.460 he's been doing this since when 2000 early 2000s early 2000s yeah the mma hour the mma hour 2009

00:12:17.840 i was reading that in my pdf today i was just like dude you've been you've been commentating

00:12:21.500 on mma forever technically since 2001 not forever i guess 2001 ufc wasn't even eight years old

00:12:28.540 i'm a student at syracuse university and i get there if you want if you want to know yeah yeah

00:12:33.780 um i get there i'm at syracuse university i want to be a broadcaster i grow up

00:12:37.820 i look up to the likes of bob costas marv albert you know these guys these are legendary yes um

00:12:44.100 not quite him but uh i did meet him in vegas one time but that sounds right uh anyway uh so i say

00:12:50.460 i'm gonna go to syracuse university because all these guys went to syracuse and so this is the

00:12:54.500 place to be the next nba or nfl or major league baseball uh play-by-play guy or a broadcaster and

00:12:59.960 i get there and every single kid wants to be the exact same thing for the first time in my life

00:13:03.820 i'm surrounded by a thousand other kids who want to be the exact same thing the next marv albert

00:13:07.740 process etc and so i remember it's september of 2001 school is about to start and i tell my parents

00:13:13.260 every kid here wants to be the same thing everyone's going in this direction i want to go in

00:13:17.420 this direction i love traditional sports but i also adore combat sports and there's this thing

00:13:21.740 called the UFC that isn't even eight years old it was about to celebrate its eight year birthday on

00:13:26.820 November 12th 1993 was its birthday so 2001 there's no guy yeah I want to be the guy I want

00:13:34.160 to be the Howard Cosell is what I said to them Howard Cosell was the voice of boxing in the 70s

00:13:38.240 and 80s I want to be the Howard Cosell and so I went to like the student radio station I put my

00:13:43.280 name down two hour slot Saturday mornings and I would talk about MMA boxing and pro wrestling but

00:13:49.320 a heavy focus on mma and guys like bruce buffer would come on i would send them emails and they

00:13:53.260 would and they would come on and i'm talking about like ufc this is like ufc 46 era dude super ahead

00:13:58.820 of your time jokes aside super ahead of your time to be able to recognize like a um i mean dang that

00:14:05.100 was like the advent of digital media yeah and and sharing and talking about things that were

00:14:10.340 happening pop culture online and super good on you and wildly impressive to recognize that the

00:14:16.040 niche hadn't really been filled there wasn't a guy there was no one i was a fan and i felt like

00:14:20.420 there was no coverage of it so like i would want to go online and there were some places don't get

00:14:24.820 me wrong there was sure dog there was the ug full contact fighter but it was very you know i love

00:14:29.840 sports so it was very sort of um you know it was just kind of primitive as far as the coverage is

00:14:34.940 concerned so i was like hey there's no one interviewing people i could do interviews i

00:14:37.900 loved interviews and then this one student station had streaming again this is 2001 podcasts weren't

00:14:43.200 thing but my friends back home would listen on the website it was werw.syr.edu and i was like wow

00:14:50.220 people can hear my show back home in montreal which is where i'm from this is crazy and so

00:14:56.600 that's really how the whole journey started for me baseball season is in full swing and summer

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00:15:56.960 thank you sea geek now back to the show let me ask you something just while we're on this topic

00:16:01.160 because i i think uh i think anyone who kind of picks a lane maybe something that hasn't

00:16:05.540 um been fully fleshed out yet and then really dives in um sorry it's my agent uh and i want to

00:16:12.580 get that actually yeah i mean you're doing everything as well hey hey lance i'm i'm

00:16:17.760 actually in a podcast with ariel hawani at the moment go do your thing i'll talk to you later

00:16:23.080 all right cool anything important you want to share live for the audience yeah did we get any

00:16:26.380 deals done no no deals no deals huh deals are always happening but i'll talk to you later

00:16:31.620 that's a great agent answer hey before we go any further i feel really awkward wearing this

00:16:36.060 deal on glazer me too why why why i'm off yeah i don't know because i don't agree with this you

00:16:40.300 don't agree with it no i was forced to wear this i don't i i like you don't want to be a part of 0.93

00:16:44.340 the every time i run into anywhere i'm like dude why the fuck have we done the show yet i get angry 0.57

00:16:48.080 almost i don't want to wear this okay that's fine i'm actually gonna button up okay all right

00:16:51.920 all right yeah we did the bit bit's over okay well thank you i appreciate that mike it's a nice

00:16:57.140 no he is right he is right hey so what i was gonna say is um because i think i think it's

00:17:02.480 safe to say like you while you recognized this lane that you wanted to potentially go down

00:17:08.760 it's a bit of a leap it's bold and especially like you're just a guy trying to make a name for

00:17:14.680 himself what do you say or do you have any advice for people who are at that point in their life

00:17:20.280 where they know they want to do something and they want to be different than the people they

00:17:24.420 grew up with and follow a certain path but maybe are a little afraid to do it man my my whole

00:17:29.380 thinking great question my whole thinking was you only get one shot at this so i don't want to wake

00:17:33.940 up when i'm 80 and be like damn i should have zigged when i zagged i should have gone down that

00:17:38.900 path um this would come up actually several times in my life where i felt like i am going to regret

00:17:44.440 this if i don't make this leap and so you kind of look at the landscape i don't need to tell you

00:17:48.540 guys this but to the audience as well you look at the landscape and you see what everyone's doing

00:17:52.740 and you try to see where you can fit in,

00:17:54.320 where you can actually do something different.

00:17:56.460 Be a Maverick.

00:17:57.480 Be a Maverick, yes.

00:17:58.580 Serious.

00:17:59.620 I'm serious.

00:18:00.700 Because I looked at MMA at the beginning.

00:18:03.320 I was like, okay, what's missing here?

00:18:05.180 There are no good interviews.

00:18:06.320 The journalists used to go up to the fighters,

00:18:08.400 I remember, with camcorders in the lobby of the MGM

00:18:11.440 and be like, hey, Nick Diaz.

00:18:12.800 And it'd be like a shot up this.

00:18:14.300 It'd be like up his nose.

00:18:15.240 Like, what'd you think of that win over Takenori Gomi?

00:18:17.700 And it was just like, it wasn't good.

00:18:19.160 Or they would show up to the events wearing fighter t-shirts.

00:18:21.520 and I was like, this isn't professional.

00:18:23.200 So I thought, if I wear a suit,

00:18:25.040 if I come with a mic flag,

00:18:26.240 if I hire a cameraman,

00:18:27.620 it's not radical,

00:18:29.140 but it's just so different

00:18:30.280 from what everyone else is doing.

00:18:31.720 People will be drawn to it.

00:18:33.180 So look at what everyone else is doing

00:18:34.640 and just be different.

00:18:36.180 Later in life, when I graduated from Syracuse,

00:18:38.440 I went down the route of TV productions.

00:18:40.520 I worked at HBO Sports.

00:18:41.860 I worked for a production company.

00:18:43.560 And then I got to Spike TV in 2007.

00:18:46.180 And Spike TV at the time was the home of the UFC.

00:18:48.560 And I adored the UFC.

00:18:49.700 And so I said, wow, this is great.

00:18:50.880 tv production um ufc spike tv the home this is great i lasted one week there because i realized 0.89

00:18:57.560 the job was a production coordinator and i realized i did shit all like literally there

00:19:02.480 was no creativity to it i just sat there took a tape from the ufc gave it to the bosses at spike 0.92

00:19:07.120 and so i went to my boss's office the president of spike sports at the time a guy named brian

00:19:11.240 diamond and i said this job isn't for me i'm so sorry he's like you're leaving you just started

00:19:16.860 literally last monday it was a week later i said i just feel like you get one shot at life

00:19:22.160 and um i'd be wasting my time and your time if i stayed here he was so mad he said you're gonna

00:19:27.280 regret this you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna get a reputation you're unprofessional 0.93

00:19:31.220 like classics he freaking like berated me made me feel like shit kept me in the office for a month 0.85

00:19:36.660 until they found someone to replace me i was the black sheep and it was at that time this is 2007 0.95

00:19:41.280 i said okay this is the crossroads of my life this is my moment i will start my own website

00:19:45.940 i will interview a fighter every single day monday through friday i'm going to reach out

00:19:50.360 the fighters via myspace i will send the message i didn't know a single person in the world of

00:19:54.540 combat sports and monday through friday i'm going to give myself from october 1st to april 1st

00:19:58.700 and if by april 1st of 2008 i don't get a job off of this i'm going to go back to tv production

00:20:03.080 and i just started building up a name i didn't know a soul but then fine i would send like 30

00:20:07.460 messages a day gsp finally replies tito ortiz replies chuck liddell replies and now i'm like

00:20:14.240 holy shit i'm building building and with three days left on my deadline which i was going to

00:20:18.060 stick to march 28 2008 finally a website reached out to me and said hey do you want to come work 0.64

00:20:24.520 for us and that's where the real journey started that's cool how do you remember all those dates

00:20:28.560 i'm kind of weird with dates and weird with numbers like march 28 2008 well martin i got

00:20:33.520 well do you even remember what happened yesterday no no and although you have been talking for like

00:20:38.420 30 minutes there is a lot of nuggets of wisdom yes i don't know if it's been 30 minutes has it

00:20:42.860 felt like 30 minutes that's not a compliment d1 hater march 28th is my wife's birthday as well so

00:20:47.440 i remember that got it got it i am good with this what what about the fact that you chose how did 0.87

00:20:52.240 you choose new york city to be the place that you wanted to tackle all this shit so i'm from 0.82

00:20:56.160 montreal yeah and i went to syracuse and then i felt like all right like where do you go you know 0.90

00:21:01.560 if you want to be big in media but not only media sports media yeah like new york city is the the

00:21:07.200 home of you know once i made the leap from montreal which i adore i adore canada i adore my

00:21:12.380 hometown my parents still live there my wife's parents live there but once i made the leap like

00:21:15.780 you can't go back right and so where's the place to be it's manhattan it's new york city and the

00:21:19.880 first job that i got out of school was hbo sports which at the time was you know to me the the gold

00:21:25.680 standard as far as sports journalism is concerned because of boxing and boxing real sports with

00:21:30.480 brian double they had on the record with bob costas like they were the creme de la creme it

00:21:34.700 was an amazing way to start my my my journey so uh it just made all the sense in the world and

00:21:39.300 also i was obsessed with new york everything i was a huge nicks fan i am a huge nicks fan so i was

00:21:44.000 like this is the place like i could go to madison square garden like this is the place that i have 0.79

00:21:47.520 to be do you know who we had on the show two days ago fuck are you gonna tell me a nicks superstar 0.99

00:21:52.180 the far opposite oh tyrese yep can i just say something what fuck tyrese come on come on come 1.00

00:21:58.580 on ariel why why okay look i don't wish harm on him it actually made me sad but that fucking 1.00

00:22:05.180 shtick with the choking after game one fuck that be your own man come up with your own gimmick 0.99

00:22:10.040 like he looked like such a d1 fucking loser okay and you could quote me yo yo you're not gonna 1.00

00:22:16.680 create shit there's no tyrese no no no galen brunson is infinitely better than him in all 0.99

00:22:22.120 facets of life i know he's a big wwe guy and all that i'm a diehard knicks fan i will never say 0.99

00:22:27.080 anything good about any indiana pacer if he comes to the knicks i'll be his number one i'll be a 0.98

00:22:30.960 but for now fuck him and all the hicks in indiana dude you got i mean dude you got to show him some 0.99

00:22:37.640 respect for what he did in the postseason like i know i know as why do i have to did he did he not 0.99

00:22:42.820 go absolutely crazy leading until game seven which which finger is the ring on bro there was

00:22:51.100 an unfortunate ending if you ain't got that ring i'm just saying he didn't win he didn't win in the

00:22:58.680 end he ended up with the same spot that the knicks ended up in yeah he beat them big deal 0.57

00:23:02.580 got lucky with that shot big deal we'll get him back we'll get him back i hate the pacers i hate 0.97

00:23:07.000 the pacers uh as pacers heat bulls uh celtic i despise those guys and and yes i wish that you 0.92

00:23:14.940 know like i wish the the wwe would show jalen more love because i actually think jalen's a

00:23:18.960 bigger fan than he is they had that little thing in the ring with you guys i don't think i don't

00:23:23.140 think he's a bigger no you don't think no tyree is a is a real solid fan he he told me we like

00:23:29.700 talked off camera we had a podcast with him last week yeah a couple days ago how's he doing is he

00:23:34.680 okay he's okay he's in good spirits it's way better than i would be he seems he seems really

00:23:39.700 just optimistic he's gone for the year though right yeah he's gone for the whole maybe a little

00:23:43.720 longer oh wow but he's no no he'll be back for for the next season he like watched he watched uh

00:23:48.600 He watched WWE growing up, the whole shtick.

00:23:51.740 It's like a part of him almost.

00:23:53.560 Dude, you want to know what it is about you Knicks fans? 0.90

00:23:56.140 You guys are sexually repressed. 0.50

00:23:59.300 You need a win, dude. 1.00

00:24:01.120 And then you'll stop all the bullshit. 0.99

00:24:02.600 I just want one. 1.00

00:24:03.360 I just want one.

00:24:04.180 I just want to know what it feels like.

00:24:05.460 Knicks and Bills, those are my two favorite teams.

00:24:07.260 Do you think it can happen?

00:24:09.500 I mean, dude, it could happen.

00:24:10.820 I mean, Brunson's-

00:24:11.540 We're pretty damn close.

00:24:12.720 Both the Knicks and Bills are pretty damn close. 0.99

00:24:14.360 I mean, the Bills just keep getting thwarted by Patty. 0.55

00:24:17.660 It'll happen.

00:24:18.300 It actually kind of reminds me of the 90s

00:24:19.960 when it was the Knicks always getting thwarted by MJ.

00:24:22.500 I see.

00:24:22.900 It feels like the same thing all over again.

00:24:24.460 I see.

00:24:24.760 One of these days,

00:24:25.440 I have never seen my team win a championship.

00:24:27.520 One of these days,

00:24:28.240 I just want to know what it feels like,

00:24:30.340 like at the end,

00:24:31.240 the confetti.

00:24:32.320 You may never will.

00:24:33.400 Become an Eagles fan. 0.99

00:24:34.580 It'll stop all the bullshit. 1.00

00:24:36.540 You're an Eagles fan? 0.99

00:24:37.060 I'm a Byrds guy, bro.

00:24:38.140 I have been since McNabb.

00:24:39.320 No, believe it or not,

00:24:40.480 I'm from Connecticut.

00:24:41.240 I'm supposed to be a Giants fan.

00:24:42.560 Yeah.

00:24:42.860 It's been a rough life for me,

00:24:44.000 but it's been great.

00:24:44.780 Big Dick Nick,

00:24:45.420 I've been there for all the ups and downs,

00:24:47.960 just did a collab with cooper de jean this year let's get to hang out with saquon everybody's up

00:24:51.840 it's a good life yeah all you got to do is switch up every once in a while no i don't do that i'm

00:24:55.840 a loyal guy unlike some others in this room look i'm a wrestler dude we stab people in the back

00:25:01.440 no i know that's just the name of the game i do have to give you props man you know i always give

00:25:05.220 you probably you're very nice to me it's um yeah uh i was um it's unbelievable it really is like

00:25:11.500 my favorite i was at summer slam night one favorite match my kids favorite match was was

00:25:15.840 you guys um it's just amazing what you do like you you are must see tv it's unbelievable and and

00:25:20.960 and i don't i know you're a little bit newer to this but you're you're you're you're learning

00:25:25.800 about the history and i and i appreciate that there has never been someone who has in my opinion

00:25:31.580 as a fan i'm not in the business so i would never pretend who has picked it up so quickly

00:25:37.100 and it's such a big way and it's had such an impact can you could you maybe say one

00:25:42.280 negative thing just if like even it out a little bit i mean as far as his wrestling is concerned

00:25:51.980 no his life in general no like dude please listen there's a million things no it is it is really

00:25:57.160 impressive man seriously and you continue to get better and the promos like originally when you

00:26:01.220 came in i think they were kind of like flirting with the idea of you being a face and that made

00:26:05.360 no sense to me like originally originally you'd be like the good guy high-fiving the kids how the

00:26:09.860 hell would that ever happen this this is this is way better dude the problem is i i actually got a

00:26:13.880 lot of respect for the kids they're they're the only people in the crowd that i that i am actually

00:26:18.100 like into like the it's the adults that are the issue like the full-grown men who are like booing

00:26:22.700 me thinking they're gonna do something it's the kids man i like the kids are great they're the

00:26:28.080 future you know they still have potential to be great unlike their parents who are there

00:26:32.680 and that's why like it's tough because i'll give the kids the the the love because i i i think it's

00:26:39.860 like it's so easy for me to give a salute and knowledge and autograph or whatever and it really

00:26:44.900 impacts these these young people like i remember the first famous person i met anderson silva yes

00:26:49.460 with jake i'll never forget that like i i've basically forgotten everything from a childhood

00:26:53.720 except that yeah so like i acknowledge that even though i'm a heel and i love being a heel and i

00:26:59.000 like am a heel i'm i think i'm playing way less of a character than most of my peers yeah um

00:27:03.800 uh i i i gotta i gotta give a nod to the kids when when it's right you know but i appreciate

00:27:10.720 the kind of words what about when uh baron corbin was on when he was on my show and he was talking

00:27:15.300 about like you have the entourage you have this did you see that by any oh i did see that i did

00:27:18.960 see that um you know so so look when i see um when i see these guys like uh baron corbin um i think

00:27:28.000 kevin nash said something about me once it's like man it's uh it's it's like a lot of noise

00:27:35.980 from like people i just like i don't know how how much their opinion means to me okay and they have

00:27:43.140 an opinion and they're entitled to it um and i think if you look at my crew and you think

00:27:50.860 oh hey that's his entourage that probably shows how how basic of an understanding of

00:27:57.580 what i'm building you have is and that's that's no fault to them but my entourage is three people

00:28:04.540 my seven foot tall security guard my videographer who i can't live without kevin who told me to call

00:28:10.860 you a d1 glazer who shoots everything and then jorge who's the entire glue of this operation

00:28:15.400 he's probably working like the dude's always like everyone on the team is working entourage to me

00:28:21.120 is like a group of friends like if mike's their entourage right but when i'm at the event

00:28:25.680 or any event it's like this is the team that i have around me to help build this empire that

00:28:31.800 i'm trying to do yeah it's not like we're all just here for fun we're all working every second

00:28:36.480 of the day even when we're not because the old school wrestling sort of mentality is like you

00:28:41.720 come in you shake everyone's hand you're respectful you don't come with a crew and so well i do i do

00:28:47.140 do that i did i did i do i do i do take a little bit of an exception to like any any implication

00:28:52.840 that i'm rude backstage you can you can you can i mean you i implore you to ask any any any wrestler

00:28:59.040 like what i'm like backstage i he's learning he's a he's a student like yeah always i i pride myself

00:29:07.040 on on shaking the hands and saying what's up but when it's when it's showtime bro you're getting

00:29:11.580 like the worst version of me sure you know um you're locked in hey i've got two shirts up on

00:29:16.540 wwe shopping fanatics right now i hate logan paul yes i'm the one behind it and still humble because

00:29:22.880 after all i am your humble king and i'm gonna stay humble because i'm just that humble you can grab

00:29:28.840 my shirts and all wwe merch hats tees replica title belt superstar collections on wwe shop

00:29:34.820 fanatics get yours today back to the show what do you guys think about the reaction of summer slam

00:29:39.740 like what was the general sentiment towards towards the event and how did the community

00:29:43.780 feel about it well my opinion i saw some like kind of like a little bit i think i think summer

00:29:49.340 slam was everything wrestlemania wasn't i think i think wrestlemania was not great if i'm being

00:29:55.460 100 honest it left us wanting a little bit more there was no sort of payoff to the the rock travis

00:30:01.200 scott situation i was not a fan of the john cena heel turn in the end like obviously in the moment

00:30:07.400 you're like oh shit this is big i never subscribed to the notion that it was going to be bigger than

00:30:11.880 hogan in 96 that was seismic it was a different time it was a different era it's almost unfair 0.98

00:30:17.440 to compare but um a month and a half into it like by the time we got from elimination chamber to

00:30:24.000 wrestlemania it felt to me like he was playing bad guy you know what i mean yeah it doesn't feel

00:30:29.080 like you're playing bad guy it felt to me like he was playing bad guy and um i think in the last

00:30:34.480 few months of cena's life career whatever you want to say in wwe people just want to celebrate

00:30:39.760 him and then he would walk out like almost like this like robot like this guy with no emotion

00:30:44.300 it was weird to me and so by the end of wrestlemania i was like man no rock we don't

00:30:48.480 understand what this alliance is blah blah blah fast forward they course corrected in my opinion

00:30:53.500 um he's back to being a good guy the seth thing was incredible i'll be honest i was a little bit

00:30:59.040 on the fence as far as okay does summer slam deserve two nights from a business standpoint

00:31:02.960 i was i was also uncertain yeah then when they nailed it i was like this was excellent they had

00:31:07.640 to hit a grand slam for this first one yeah because now you've told everyone for the next

00:31:12.020 five ten years big shit is happening on both nights yeah because even as a long time fan

00:31:17.380 i felt like summer slam kind of got forgotten over the last couple years like it didn't feel 0.82

00:31:21.120 as big as the rumble or mania when in the in the past it was maybe number two now you just reminded

00:31:26.380 everyone like this is number two it's number two because it's getting two nights and look at the 0.97

00:31:31.100 big shit that happened on saturday and look at the big shit that happened on sunday so i i thought 0.96

00:31:35.020 it was a grand slam for the company and now the criticism they were talking about is maybe like 0.99

00:31:38.580 oh should brock have come back that's what i was yeah yeah but like just if you're just looking at 0.97

00:31:43.020 it like my kids are looking at it they're going to bed saying holy shit two massive surprise

00:31:48.120 happened like what's better than that i'm a little disappointed in cena personally like as a fan and 0.67

00:31:55.180 as a guy who knows him just because i saw i saw the heel turn and i was like all right like welcome

00:32:03.720 to the bright side you can just be yourself and like people will accept you for that but then the

00:32:10.600 switch up back to trying to be a baby face makes me feel like uh he's he's like seeking outside

00:32:16.320 validation and he's he's being guided by the audience instead of himself and it feels like

00:32:22.020 to me we're watching like a midlife crisis happen oh i love this live this is good this is good well

00:32:28.020 i i'm being honest like i'm serious i'm serious like i love i love i loved loved john cena you

00:32:33.540 know like we had a tag yeah and i i got to work with him a little bit and see what he was really

00:32:37.660 like and then i see him just like what was he like i mean bro he's john cena you know like uh

00:32:43.520 i i wish he i wish he would just i wish he would be more like me and just be himself this is so

00:32:50.480 good this is i'm serious like because it actually seems like you really believe this i do are your

00:32:55.760 real thoughts yes i do i think he i think he needs to i think he needs to just like find yourself and

00:33:01.540 stop trying to like please the crowd for your own personal validation and um you thought it was a

00:33:08.200 weak move i just think you should i think you should have maybe just uh picked the lane and

00:33:12.700 stayed in it yeah that's what i think you should have done because like like like i said man like

00:33:16.120 who are you do you even know are you just doing it because the final boss says it or triple h says

00:33:22.020 it are you being puppeteered by the powers that be or why don't you just be yourself and be the

00:33:28.620 goat john cena but i saw that fade a little bit and i have to say i'm i'm not i'm not into it 0.60

00:33:35.880 you're not into it you would have preferred him stick to this you didn't feel like it was not

00:33:39.520 him it was out of character for him to be the bad guy maybe he just came to the realization that

00:33:44.160 that's not him maybe he came to the realization that he doesn't actually hate it i mean bro you're

00:33:49.840 like 50 years old like yeah should you know like what's up at this point i don't know what are you

00:33:54.520 calling him onk life crisis gramps onk is like 25 now i think i'm onk you're not on the way oh yeah

00:34:02.580 my guys call me on the internet dude i'm like great grandfather yeah how old are you 40 40 on

00:34:09.120 the dot and you 30 what a monk you're not on they call me young you want to be young but that's 0.70

00:34:15.180 offensive to actual unks damn yeah okay so wait so look enough about me and wrestling okay um let's 0.83

00:34:22.640 talk about you okay you know a lot of a lot of interviews over the year yes sir years i've seen 0.97

00:34:27.380 you just doing so many interviews with these mma fighters and sometimes i feel like some of them

00:34:32.580 have gotten a little like uh maybe upset with some of the questions you ask because you are a

00:34:37.300 no bullshit guy even in your career path you kind of have no fear like jumping and just going and

00:34:43.980 taking that leap and you can you can see that projection of no fear in your interviews which 0.98

00:34:48.460 is why they're so rich thank you but why did you moan at rampage jackson when he showed you his abs

00:34:54.100 can i tell you something crazy about that clip you know that interview happened in 2011

00:34:58.540 and for some reason in the last like three four years it has resurfaced to the point where

00:35:05.020 kids will come up to me and be like wait a second are you the and i was like let me guess the

00:35:09.720 rampage jackson interview guy i don't know how this happened but it like disappeared and all

00:35:14.620 of a sudden it just re-emerged like i knew you were even gonna ask me about it really this is

00:35:19.000 an interview from 14 years ago it's not even in my pdf bro i just remember it's like one of my

00:35:22.800 main things so many times every every month every two months like a high school classmate will be

00:35:27.640 like have you seen this and they send it to me like yes i was in the interview i was there but

00:35:31.560 it's on some like meme page like that. Can I tell you, you will appreciate this. Can I tell

00:35:35.700 you the backstory from that interview? Cause you will appreciate this as a pro wrestler.

00:35:39.200 So Rampage Jackson and I always did great interviews. We did great content. Uh, love

00:35:43.460 the guy and he's a legend, right? He had just fought John Jones. It's UFC 135, September

00:35:50.300 of 2011 in Denver. He just lost. It was for the belt, right? It's a pretty low moment

00:35:54.700 for him, but we have a good relationship. So I see him in the back. I'm working for

00:35:58.320 AOL at the time. I see him in the back and I'm like, hey, man, do you mind like we do a quick

00:36:02.920 post-fight interview? He's like, yeah, no problem. So he brings me into his locker room. That's where

00:36:06.560 we are when that interview happens. And my cameraman's over here and I'm standing over

00:36:10.820 here. And just before I'm about to start, I would always start the interviews the same way. Ariel

00:36:14.540 Hawani here, post-fight UFC 135. He whispers to me and he says, make sure you mention how I lost.

00:36:21.720 And I'm like, what? No one says that. Because if I just spoke to you, like if I'm talking to you

00:36:26.000 and you just lost in a boxing or MMA fight,

00:36:28.500 I'm probably going to, like, soften it.

00:36:30.540 Like, who just had a tough night against so-and-so.

00:36:33.600 So he's like, make sure you mention specifically how I lost.

00:36:35.960 He lost via submission.

00:36:37.780 All right.

00:36:38.380 Ariel Hawane here, post-fight UFC 135 with Rampage Jackson,

00:36:41.520 who just got submitted tonight by John. 0.99

00:36:43.240 And then he's like, what the fuck, man? 1.00

00:36:44.960 Oh, damn. 1.00

00:36:45.580 And then he did a whole thing. 1.00

00:36:46.520 Oh, he was playing heel a little.

00:36:47.580 He did a whole thing. 1.00

00:36:48.420 But to have the presence of mind, you just got your ass kicked, 1.00

00:36:51.820 and you have the presence of mind to say, like, 1.00

00:36:53.460 let's keep this shtick going.

00:36:54.920 Let's keep this going.

00:36:55.800 impressive i was blown away that's pretty good so he is a brilliant guy and so all of that was

00:37:01.140 just kind of shtick i still don't think i moaned or did the if you actually listen can you i was

00:37:07.000 just it was more like validation like yeah man you're having a tough day i'm your pal you look

00:37:13.220 good like isn't that what pals do if you lifted your shirt and showed mike your abs what do you

00:37:19.280 want him to say like oh that's not impressive you thought he looked real good huh listen man he

00:37:23.780 look good much respect i'm trying to lift the guy up in his in his uh sad moments but that's a great

00:37:29.320 one and i don't understand how it came back but uh i think it may be because this is just a wild

00:37:35.080 hunch rampage has been a little active on social he's a streamer oh yeah his son is like of age

00:37:42.020 that's part of it but also like the advent of like zesty like zesty content you know what i'm

00:37:47.280 saying you think i was zesty in that i 100 like that might be the definitive kev would you say

00:37:51.440 that's the nah it's close it is carl anthony towns has you beat dude what do you love cat

00:37:58.120 what are your takes on his zest i'm cool with it yeah i'm no problem be yourself man oh dude i

00:38:02.460 think people are mean to him i i love the guy that's my guy he's fantastic yeah he's a great

00:38:06.280 he's actually a brilliant guy who's um a huge combat sports fan as well i saw him at the time

00:38:10.320 square fight the ryan garcia fight he was there front row all the fights can i ask can i ask how

00:38:15.220 that time square fight was in real life because on tv it looked just so lax um it was surreal

00:38:21.180 it felt like um what's the will smith movie independence day it felt like we were in time

00:38:26.340 square but there wasn't a human being in sight like so it was it was closed off right and they

00:38:32.660 had these big sort of i don't know walls where i thought like hey if you're shopping and going to 0.92

00:38:37.800 the m&m store you're a tourist from denmark you'd be able to look in and be like holy shit there's

00:38:41.980 ryan garcia you would have never known because it was closed off and so it was invite only and

00:38:47.160 because the traffic was a little bit closed off as well it felt very quiet it felt like so and the

00:38:53.000 fights kind of sucked if we're being honest yeah and so it felt like you were just watching sort

00:38:56.860 of like glorified exhibition spot i think that's why the bow and brush all added into the mix

00:39:02.160 bryce hall yeah you think they should have added him no he was there that he was oh i didn't even

00:39:06.820 no there were big names there there were there were there were guys where stevenson was there

00:39:10.040 there were there were some names um nikon was there like they were like they were like all

00:39:14.400 the big wigs with it were there but um it just felt like i don't think it was what people were

00:39:20.960 i think on tv why maybe was a little lex because um there was no sound like sometimes when the

00:39:27.780 fights are quiet on the production oh yeah and if the quality of the fights is not good it's

00:39:31.760 it's kind of like not a not a great night but i imagine the atmosphere was probably insane to see

00:39:36.920 i mean it was surreal being there but it's sort of like uh the ufc events at the apex like

00:39:41.540 you need a crowd you need the audience you need and and i think the performers get up when there's

00:39:46.620 a 100 right you feed off of that and so when you see the way garcia fought in particular it's like

00:39:52.060 i kind of understand it also the thing that i didn't agree with was that garcia and haney should

00:39:57.360 have fought each other that was the story and so because they both had fights against lesser

00:40:01.760 opponents and thought all right let me get by these fights and then we'll fight in october they

00:40:06.160 both didn't take any risks for haney it worked out for ryan it didn't i see you want to talk

00:40:10.580 about weird venues that's a weird venue white house yes weirder venue dude no no no bro stop

00:40:18.160 don't say that stop unique is it possible that this fight actually happens possible i think it

00:40:24.040 is on the white house lawn yes on america's birthday what what makes you think it doesn't

00:40:29.000 happen like the white house lawn donald trump yeah i get it i hear who is a constant figure

00:40:35.140 at ufc events yeah yeah sitting in the front row it's happening i mean i would be shocked if it

00:40:39.460 doesn't happen more so than if it does happen i i have to say the ufc the way they branch out and

00:40:46.600 and host some of these big events and really cool venues to me is so cool like the fact that they

00:40:51.100 did the fight in the sphere oh yeah just thought no insane so did you were were you at the i was

00:40:55.960 not no no it was the craziest thing i've ever seen no no i mean on tv it was unbelievable and

00:41:01.020 they should have won all the awards for it because the way it looked was unbelievable and i i don't

00:41:04.700 even think people recognize like from a lighting standpoint there were a lot of challenges there

00:41:08.400 so they hit it out of the ballpark i'm not surprised that they don't want to go back a

00:41:11.900 super expensive be like how do you keep topping that right yeah um but the white house thing is

00:41:17.320 i think for sure gonna happen the moment trump said it where's the where does the ring go like

00:41:21.020 in the rose garden or something like that freaking thing didn't he get rid of the rose garden i don't

00:41:25.020 know you seem to know more about this than i do who's gonna fight well i think that's a little

00:41:29.020 bit um it's august too early like we don't even know who's fighting in december yeah for goodness

00:41:34.700 sakes like people can get hurt i i think they would love to have a big name on it what to what

00:41:39.140 is most interesting to me is do you do you sacrifice the gate for example when connor fights

00:41:46.820 it's a 20 to 30 million dollar gate at t-mobile wow wow you're not going to sell tickets to this

00:41:52.360 event tell tell them tell them what the gate is for those who don't know okay good question um

00:41:56.280 you know ticket sales so like uh you can you can charge a premium when big dogs fight and so when

00:42:02.280 connor fights at msg when john jones fights at msg t-mobile those big venues you can charge

00:42:06.820 a huge amount of money and so when you're going to do this event at the white house you're not

00:42:10.520 going to get a huge amount of money but is it worth it i think so yeah that 30 million is a

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00:43:15.240 Who actually is, because it could lead into this superstar quandary

00:43:19.560 that everyone's been talking about recently,

00:43:21.060 who are the potential superstars that could head up this showstopper event?

00:43:26.020 Ilya Teporia.

00:43:26.680 does he have the does he have the storyline does he have the character does he have the charisma

00:43:31.620 the character i think there's a lot of people who are like it has to be an american i don't

00:43:35.600 think it has to be an american i think mma fans ufc fans are just fans of mma and the ufc i don't

00:43:41.260 think it has to be an american at the white house i think it would be cool but i don't think they're

00:43:44.860 going to book it that way chances it's jones aspinall i think that could happen too actually

00:43:49.600 yeah you think jones has been ducking him yes he's scared i don't like that word because i

00:43:55.640 think it's disrespectful towards him but i think he didn't want to fight him and i think it was a

00:44:00.060 calculated decision on his part he is so close to the end so close to retiring as undefeated go

00:44:06.420 are you going to risk it all to fight this one guy who was really really good and in my opinion

00:44:11.140 would have given him a tough fight and probably would have beaten him that's no disrespect he's

00:44:14.980 just a lot younger is yes can you knock him for being calculated though i don't knock him no i

00:44:21.800 just i just wish it was handled differently i see you knew tom was the guy you last fought in

00:44:27.520 november why did you wait all the way until june why did you drag this out all the way until june

00:44:33.420 when you knew you weren't going to fight him and and my information is that he gave the ufc a number

00:44:40.800 he gave them a price tag he said i'll do it for this number what number i believe it's in the 30

00:44:46.260 million dollar range for this fight which by the way i think he deserves yeah i think i think he

00:44:50.980 deserves more than that ever that 30 million dollars i don't believe that's that's don't

00:44:56.360 believe as as like the it could have ended up that way after pay-per-view and blah blah blah

00:45:00.560 but like off the jump no and i think he deserves it god bless him he's one of the greatest ever

00:45:05.700 if not the greatest in many people's eyes and i think he didn't think that they would come up with

00:45:11.400 the number and they did and then he said yes oh oh they did come up with the number yes and and

00:45:18.260 and i believe that saudi arabia was involved like the big dogs were involved right they came up with

00:45:24.960 the number and he said yes and then two days later three days later whatever he said now on second

00:45:30.300 thought i'm out and that's why when he announced his retirement dana said he gave me my he gave me

00:45:35.560 his word and then he went back on his word so i think he was hoping that they would not meet the

00:45:41.860 number and then he could be like hey guys i tried they just didn't want to just threw some massive

00:45:46.200 number i'm like dude they're obviously not going to pay this amount of money and turkey was just

00:45:49.720 like no we haven't and they met it and they met it yeah because that's what happened with the

00:45:53.380 francis and ganu fight in 2020 he threw out a massive number he said i want deontay wilder

00:45:57.740 numbers yeah they said no and then the fight fizzled this time they said yes because they

00:46:03.240 could afford it why i mean that fight is worth that much dude you you like having opinions on

00:46:08.960 fighters and like their business makes your job kind of tricky i feel like i've always thought

00:46:15.620 this because you're you're an mma commentator and you you have thoughts that you're vocal about

00:46:20.560 you're not afraid to be vocal about them but if you're constantly talking about the people and

00:46:26.700 it's not always going to be in their favor who you kind of rely on to build your ecosystem

00:46:33.480 are you ever worried about being too vocal and burning bridges for sure because you've burned

00:46:41.200 some bridges sure yeah um i don't know if i don't know if i want to say burn bridges but yes i've

00:46:47.180 i've i've i've made uh friends and enemies if you want to put it that way if you want to say

00:46:52.880 burn bridges i mean i don't know there's definitely people that like won't come on your show right

00:46:56.940 100 there you know um here's the thing there's obviously people that are not going to like you

00:47:03.780 i've been doing this this particular show that i do now and has expanded since 2009 so i'm not

00:47:10.180 under any sort of like false illusions like people aren't going to like me they're not going to want

00:47:13.640 to fuck with me as the kids say and that's cool like i don't need to be liked by everyone i hope 0.91

00:47:18.440 i'm respected to a degree i hope that everyone thinks that i'm fair i hope that people think 0.99

00:47:22.420 that i you know that i i keep a real that i'm not biased but if you don't like me you don't like me

00:47:26.900 and and what's interesting is now everyone else has a youtube channel so like you don't need me

00:47:31.020 necessarily if you're a fighter who doesn't like me and back in the day you needed to get your your

00:47:35.040 word out maybe you would have like bit the bullet and said like all right fine i'll go on the show

00:47:38.580 because i have a message to get out that i can't get out anywhere else yeah but it's a tricky dance

00:47:42.220 because um throughout my career people would say like oh uh when i was breaking a lot of news i

00:47:47.940 don't do that as much now for for several reasons they'd be like oh you're like the shefter of mma

00:47:53.220 or like the woge of mma and i would say like i think i do more than that i host i interview

00:47:57.900 those guys don't and so to balance having opinion wanting to interview people wanting to break news

00:48:05.340 like people are going to get upset in that sort of arrangement i just try to be respectful and i

00:48:10.800 hope people see it as being professional you you also could and have the lane to stick to just pure

00:48:16.340 commentary without even involving the personalities in the programming and i love interviewing but you

00:48:21.540 you come from the school of like dude i think back to mike and the mad dog it was never like

00:48:27.500 it was never like you know this player's not having a good season this guy is trash this guy 0.99

00:48:33.500 is fucking true you know what i'm saying like they're gonna just say it however they want to 0.97

00:48:37.320 say it and and that's how they talk so you come from that school while like you could and by the 0.98

00:48:42.080 way now in the era of clipping all of that type of activity is like the best possible thing for

00:48:46.920 your business do you just really love interviewing that much i adore interviewing if i could interview

00:48:51.560 people for the right like that's what i enjoy doing the most and it's not just mma fighters

00:48:55.700 and it's not just combat sports athletes like my goal my dream is to be the greatest interviewer

00:49:00.800 of all time do i get there i don't know but since i was a young kid i would i would i would watch my

00:49:05.940 parents looking at larry king and i would look at him at night and he would interview all kinds of

00:49:10.660 people one day was a politician an actor a sports star and i remember one point in particular one

00:49:16.280 day he was interviewing yasser arafat the head of the plo and i remember thinking like man here's

00:49:21.920 this jewish guy interviewing the head of the plo they probably don't agree on a lot of things but

00:49:26.540 look at this cordial professional conversation.

00:49:28.760 This is riveting.

00:49:29.520 This is fascinating.

00:49:30.620 And so I want to be in situations like that.

00:49:33.220 That's my dream.

00:49:33.740 That's why I grew up idolizing Howard Stern.

00:49:36.360 That's why I would watch the Charlie Rose show

00:49:38.060 when he was still on, Larry King.

00:49:39.840 I adore interviewing people.

00:49:41.700 And over time, I have felt more comfortable on air

00:49:44.120 and in my skin giving opinion.

00:49:46.200 But I try not to be malicious.

00:49:48.440 I try not to be mean.

00:49:49.520 I try not to be unprofessional.

00:49:50.700 But yes, people have gotten mad about certain things.

00:49:53.280 Can I say one?

00:49:54.220 I think unfairly, but yeah.

00:49:55.560 let me say one piece to just critique that i i was i was actually surprised that you did this

00:50:00.780 okay it was in a the last amanda serrano katie taylor fight oh yes and the one fighter yeah who

00:50:07.000 you just lally yeah i don't know her name you know it's bram lally who you you said in your

00:50:12.860 post-fight interview like i don't agree with the fact that you've won yes but what do you have to

00:50:17.860 say about that i i was like balls i was like man i i don't know leave that maybe leave that

00:50:24.020 commentary online do you do you have any like so yeah look i'm not perfect and so if someone wants

00:50:30.180 to be and trust me i heard a whole bunch of things and i also heard a bunch of great things too um i

00:50:35.280 thought i i see both sides always yeah i went damn i'm surprised he said that also like she probably

00:50:39.960 shouldn't win that fight if he's saying it she in my opinion did not win that probably did not win

00:50:44.180 the fight i thought i thought that look it was it was an eight round fight um if it was like a

00:50:50.640 a five to three a close one or four four i would never say it i thought it was egregious like so

00:50:57.020 much so that the um the the the opponent was uh brazilian and i walked up to the translator the

00:51:03.580 portuguese translator i was like okay this is how the post fight this is before the announcement of

00:51:07.460 the scorecards like you're gonna stand here i was it wasn't even a question that this person won

00:51:12.080 wow and uh then when they said it and by the way if you listen to the broadcast the broadcasters

00:51:17.000 were all in agreement with me and so i felt like i had to keep it real okay and i wasn't trying to

00:51:22.780 disrespect her in any way shape or form it man i have so much that's why like even when talking

00:51:26.700 about the misfits fighters to the to the influence like i never if you make that walk if you step

00:51:32.180 you have more courage you are a greater person than i i don't do that but i just wanted to say

00:51:37.440 look i want to be transparent with you that's what i said i don't think you did enough to win

00:51:41.980 that fight i don't think you won that fight why am i wrong and and and the basis of her retort

00:51:48.420 was that oh i scored a knockdown yeah in the second but by the way it wasn't a knockdown

00:51:53.620 like we showed it it wasn't a knockdown yeah the knee never the glove never hit the the the mat

00:51:58.840 and so people were very upset like i said some other people gave me props people who i respect

00:52:04.160 gave me props i feel like it's but i'm always trying to do the main criticism that kind of

00:52:08.980 annoyed me hurt me in that moment was people said i was trying to make it about myself

00:52:12.800 and that was not my intention i am there holding a microphone i'm just trying to tell you like i'm

00:52:18.920 not going to try to fake this and be like incredible win and then go on my show and say

00:52:22.660 that person didn't deserve to win why why say i don't think you won versus some of the people

00:52:28.800 are out there like i think that's cowardly okay i think i i hate i hate when people interview 0.55

00:52:34.460 people and go some people out there are saying no no no who are the people and do you agree we do 0.61

00:52:40.540 it all the time i don't like that some people say are saying that it's just my opinion yes i i think

00:52:46.080 that's cowardly just say it i kind of agree with them i i agree with you it's totally cowardly

00:52:51.200 that's i do it though but it's also but it's also but it's also diplomatic and it and it and it

00:52:55.840 keeps things a little bit more 100 she handled it perfectly she was incredible she was professional

00:53:01.000 and um it was a conversation point it was a way for you to ask a question i wasn't trying to make

00:53:06.060 it about myself and i wasn't trying to take it away from her but i really did think her opponent

00:53:10.120 deserved to win that fight and i had some people afterwards saying like oh she's been through so

00:53:14.280 much she's this role model she's done this what does that have to do with the scorecards no nothing

00:53:18.400 i'm just trying to yeah to be real i ultimately what i want people to see when they see me is

00:53:24.240 like this guy keeps it real he is honest and he has no bias and and we know that about you i know

00:53:30.160 it about you as a fan and someone who like you know you you you are the the color for a lot of

00:53:34.260 the sports that i love and i'm so excited when i see you up there mediating a press conference

00:53:40.580 announcing or whatever like you the fact that you uh did a lot of press conferences for jake and

00:53:45.300 tyson i thought was really cool thank you um and and i know you're cool with the tyson camp i think

00:53:50.140 yeah you're cool with the jake camp i think but i was interested to see how you would deal with

00:53:56.420 tyson's nonchalance in some of the press conferences because like let's be honest

00:54:02.880 besides the weigh-in basically he was kind of boring i don't think he was like selling the

00:54:09.380 fight that much he wasn't giving you anything nothing how do you deal with a fighter who's

00:54:14.920 not giving you anything to sell the fight i kind of love that like i love the challenge there was

00:54:20.660 a fighter back in the day named uh rory mcdonald do you remember rory mcdonald and he was so

00:54:25.140 reserved and people be like oh rory's so boring i'm like no i love rory interviews because i love

00:54:30.680 the challenge of trying to like crack them weave through and break him down almost like a fight

00:54:34.960 like you hit him with a jab like does he respond to that um and obviously like tyson doesn't have

00:54:39.380 to say anything he's mike tyson he doesn't but i i he knew that i enjoy that i actually enjoy that

00:54:44.180 now don't get me wrong like when someone's up there who's freaking going off that's incredible

00:54:47.920 my job is super easy but um you know like even katie taylor like she's pretty you know she's

00:54:53.400 pretty reserved um but when you get them to open up it feels like a greater victory you know cool

00:54:58.880 and you know i've seen it before those press conferences can i just say like i don't actually

00:55:03.020 necessarily think it's my role to do that like i don't think it's actually now i'm getting like

00:55:08.140 deep into the journalistic weeds here but typically those press conferences should be

00:55:12.940 conducted by a promoter right like dana white is up there bob arum is up there don king is up there

00:55:19.540 Vince McMahon back in the day, you know, like promoters usually stand up there.

00:55:22.580 I only do them for one entity and that's MVP.

00:55:26.940 They don't pay me to do them.

00:55:28.300 I've never taken up a penny from MVP.

00:55:30.400 They don't pay you?

00:55:31.140 Not a set.

00:55:31.680 Was it just a side quest? 0.99

00:55:33.320 Side slash type shit? 0.99

00:55:34.260 It's not a side quest. 0.99

00:55:35.200 I obviously work on the broadcast.

00:55:37.020 So like that Netflix event, I'm being paid by Netflix.

00:55:40.600 I don't want to be paid by promoters because I think that that would make me compromise

00:55:44.960 as a journalist because now, so I always tell, I don't want to get paid.

00:55:49.160 i just have a lot of um respect and admiration for nikisa because he has been very loyal to me

00:55:55.180 and so he's the only one that i do it for when he asks me to do it i do it but i could see sometimes

00:56:01.400 where people are like oh this dude is on the payroll i'm not on the payroll i don't i don't

00:56:04.600 get paid by them i don't and i've turned down some pretty big opportunities um where people

00:56:09.260 have been like we want you to do this i'm like no because i don't think a journalist should be up 0.98

00:56:12.440 there sort of like shilling for the show does that make sense yeah i take this shit way too 0.94

00:56:17.400 seriously and i probably shouldn't because it has cost me opportunities but at the end of the day 0.98

00:56:21.740 like i want to be able to look at myself and say again i was true to myself i'm oral fiber i don't

00:56:27.220 know what it is like me getting paid by a cheeseburger place but by the way a positive

00:56:30.720 review no i i think i think that's different because you're not a journalist i'm not a

00:56:34.640 journalist so like everybody just claims to be a journalist nowadays not i actually have a degree

00:56:38.940 from the number one yeah see i like that in the freaking country i think that makes you a legitimate

00:56:43.000 journalist i would like to think have you ever seen these police auditors that go around and

00:56:47.580 stick the cameras in cops faces and they say i'm a journalist i can oh yes yes yes and then they

00:56:52.240 provoke the cops yeah yeah no there's a lot of fake journalists out there why did you why did

00:56:56.280 you leak that brock lesnar was coming back to the uh see i didn't leak that but dan white band

00:57:00.620 you're banned forever okay you've been waiting to ask this question no no but he asked it horribly

00:57:04.200 yeah it happened 10 years ago maybe there's a better way to say it yeah maybe like are you

00:57:12.180 have said that you got banned from the ufc forever okay so even that is inaccurate both of you guys

00:57:17.780 are inaccurate so you're a journalist you're doing a shitty job of asking questions um i didn't leak 0.50

00:57:23.940 it it's it's a report yeah right i'm i'm i'm reporting on news leaking something is like if 0.74

00:57:29.940 i was working for the company and i like called someone up there and and and gave out how did you

00:57:35.460 how did you get the information as you know you know uh adam schefter woge these guys that i

00:57:41.080 reference you know they break news all the time and everyone goes crazy when they find out like

00:57:44.200 whoa this guy's going to this team or sign with that team people tell me things you have sources

00:57:49.440 whether it's it's it's it's a friend it's a manager you got a mole it's not a mole that's

00:57:54.440 the thing they they thought are you kidding me right now i want you to play the rest of that

00:58:00.160 yeah what was that was that sabrina carpenter what was it well what are you doing on instagram

00:58:05.600 what i'm just curious dudes here i am pouring my heart out to you guys and this guy's scrolling

00:58:11.820 scrolling look at a big vood latina this guy's respect he's unbelievable is palpable wait wait

00:58:17.120 what's the song though no i have no idea no no i'm just curious actually hot was it a ringtone

00:58:23.040 was it worth it if you know my taste in insta models yeah thick he likes thick really thick

00:58:27.980 wait wait wait so so what she texted you have a ringtone for her no he was watching one of her

00:58:32.340 videos with a song open instagram unmuted sound oh so he'd really be scrolling yeah yeah no no

00:58:38.920 interview totally bored right how do you how do you balance your journalistic desires to

00:58:43.600 break news with your loyalty to the people that you're protecting the news that you're breaking

00:58:48.700 does that make sense like like you you you you hurt dana dude oh stop it i hurt dana no but

00:58:55.560 seriously my question my question remains like how do you how do you like i know i know more than

00:58:59.960 anyone about what's going on behind the scenes in every creator camp yes i don't i don't say i

00:59:04.880 would never break news because i did nothing wrong no one from the ufc told me any type of

00:59:09.780 information i would not be sitting here doing this job and getting all the big names that come

00:59:14.640 on my show if i broke trust right so if you tell me and by the way we've had conversations do i 0.98

00:59:20.120 leak it do i post screen grabs do i say oh i think you did on one of them what's fuck out of here 0.99

00:59:25.120 never i think you did i've never in my life i never will and i take that shit very seriously 0.99

00:59:29.360 make an accusation now you're trying to think of why you did you did yeah yeah sure you did the 0.97

00:59:34.160 connor thing what connor thing you did tell me uh uh when it was rumored that i was fighting

00:59:40.560 mcgregor yes you you you dm me and said is it true yes and i said at the moment no and i didn't say

00:59:48.640 this is proprietary information and i'd like to keep this rumor going for clout yeah maybe i should

00:59:53.140 have but you went you went right on your show and said they don't have anything in place i actually

00:59:57.900 went on my show this is inaccurate i actually went on my show and said there was something

01:00:01.840 there were there were discussions i knew about the family in india i talked about you guys being

01:00:07.160 well there were there were discussions in place yes i just i don't know if i don't know if i was

01:00:11.380 ready for that information to break no he i don't think he broke it because of what you didn't break

01:00:15.100 anything i don't know how we got down this track but for me the main thing is if someone tells me

01:00:21.400 something i assume it's off the record unless you say otherwise i don't go the opposite way right

01:00:26.760 so you may think otherwise and maybe we we have no no what you're saying is not accurate it is

01:00:31.160 accurate no no it's a journalist no no no because you dm me and i told you what was happening

01:00:36.740 and then you went on the record and said it and i said i spoke to logan paul and he said this yes

01:00:40.940 that is not true yes it is no it's not yes it is i said you don't want to go again here's one

01:00:46.340 thing i will say he's he's bro i got received he keeps always you might have done it oh i usually

01:00:51.540 i would play that was accurate and and that and and by the way that breached your trust if if what

01:00:56.520 you are saying is accurate that breach it didn't breach my trust but i was like

01:01:01.000 oh i do gotta be careful what i tell ariel wow really i'll talk i did this actually goes back

01:01:08.480 to the d1 glazing stuff now no i'm just saying i'm just saying because i was i told you as like

01:01:13.260 a you know a guy in the industry not like i didn't think you would go right to the show and say it 0.93

01:01:17.440 okay that's all and by the way i don't you know i don't give a fuck i'm just saying it wasn't you 0.84

01:01:21.520 but also i will stick to my guns i will stick to my guns and say i actually was saying that there 0.83

01:01:26.820 was credence to it well there was there was there were real conversations but the only way people

01:01:34.640 would know that they were legitimate conversations is because i told you and you said it absolutely

01:01:39.020 not you don't think i talked to people on the other side of the fence yeah that's what i was

01:01:43.840 saying um were you fighting your shadow there's another my shadow there's another opponent yeah

01:01:51.280 Like he's saying he has sources across the globe.

01:01:54.320 Like I talked to other, there's other people involved.

01:01:59.340 So it was on the record when you spoke with Conor.

01:02:02.560 I'm not saying I spoke to anyone.

01:02:03.500 Or did you do the same thing you did with me?

01:02:04.980 I'm not saying I spoke to anyone, but you weren't the only player involved.

01:02:09.060 It wasn't like Logan Paul has signed with so-and-so and there's only really one entity that could tell me that.

01:02:15.500 Dude, are you going to fight Dana White?

01:02:18.260 Are you going to fight Dana White?

01:02:19.260 No.

01:02:19.520 what is what where do you stand currently with the with ufc well you asked me like four other

01:02:25.580 questions prior and i never really addressed them i don't know if you want to go with this one go

01:02:29.200 with this one yeah uh where do i stand with wait what was the question and the ufc yeah yeah my

01:02:35.280 relation okay let's start with dana it is a non-existent relationship which means do we text

01:02:41.560 do we call do we exchange things no there was once a period from like 2009 to 2016 where it

01:02:50.140 couldn't have been any better the texting the calling the interviews the interactions all that

01:02:54.360 stuff and 2016 it all kind of you know blew up fizzled whatever but he exists and is doing his

01:03:02.240 thing in thriving and i exist doing my thing in thriving meaning i still cover the sport i still

01:03:07.720 think i covered very favorably and honestly and all that stuff still have all the guys there we

01:03:12.780 were at international fight week we were doing all this stuff and so we just kind of exist you

01:03:16.780 know there's there's different people that exist we were there were you you weren't there i was at

01:03:21.600 i was in las vegas we were doing a bunch of stuff at the venetian we had izzy we had vogue we had

01:03:26.920 can you go to a fight okay so this so now we go back to the other question 2016 when i broke the

01:03:34.600 brock lesner news which i didn't breach any trust and no one in the ufc told me there was no mole

01:03:39.020 all this stuff is a thousand percent not true i was banned from the ufc for 48 hours banned for

01:03:46.140 48 hours i was escorted out of the building for 48 hours the people had my back there was an

01:03:50.340 uprising all this stuff i've talked about it a million times um i was unbanned 48 hours later

01:03:56.440 meaning that monday night i was unbanned that event was ufc 199 june of 2016 i was at ufc 200

01:04:03.840 i was at ufc 201 i was at 202 i was at 203 i was at 210 oh you were there yes so so so the johnny

01:04:12.200 come lately's not naming any names think that i'll do an outsider think that i've been banned since

01:04:18.280 then they've just completely erased time i went to work for espn i was at every single event there

01:04:23.200 the last ufc event that i went to was march of 2020 got it right before the pandemic it was

01:04:28.540 Izzy against UL Romero. A year and a half, then the pandemic hit. We didn't travel, blah, blah,

01:04:34.060 blah. My contract expired. I chose not to resign. I wanted to go out and explore some other things.

01:04:40.100 It all worked out. And I said to myself that I don't really need to go. I'll be honest. It wasn't

01:04:47.140 very friendly towards the end. They made life a little bit difficult for me, but I have not applied

01:04:51.860 for credentials since that event. So if I do apply, are they welcoming me back? Probably not.

01:04:58.120 like they're not thrilled about it but i don't know so people say like how does it feel to be

01:05:02.040 banned can you go i don't know the answer to that i have not actually uh applied is it the same as

01:05:07.880 someone who's like um oh you know you're about to get fired so you don't like show up to work i don't

01:05:12.420 know but the the thousand percent truth is and you can ask them i have not applied for a credential

01:05:17.260 since march of 2020 do you think well are you upset that your relationship with ufc and dana

01:05:25.740 white has unfolded the way it has i wish it was better 100 100 because i don't think that uh

01:05:33.420 i don't i don't think that the um i don't think what i did was was was uh was worth any of this

01:05:40.540 meaning i i don't think what i did warranted any of this i i i again personally as someone who's

01:05:46.480 known about you for a while was kind of upset when i saw like what appeared to be like a falling out

01:05:52.180 happen oh yeah because in my head i went man as as as like the mma journalist commentator

01:05:58.840 interviewer guy losing that relationship i was concerned about how your business would go on

01:06:04.860 and then when the mma hour started to kind of take off independently and you found just a way

01:06:09.540 to make it work even outside of the ufc affiliation that made me very happy i always like people can

01:06:14.960 stand on their own their own legs yeah yeah outside obviously you want to have good relationship

01:06:18.180 everyone it would be great and i've tried um i've sent texts and stuff like that um and not because

01:06:25.460 i want anything not because i want them on the show not because i want information not because

01:06:29.060 i want to be friends yeah but i just think again going back to you only get one shot at life yep

01:06:33.160 i just would like to be in good standing with as many people as possible it'd be a good way to live

01:06:37.380 um but well you're cool with the you're cool with the wwe right i would like to think so i think you

01:06:43.120 are i hope so no uh i mean obviously i know i know nick very well yeah and and you're versed

01:06:49.580 you're versed on yeah wrestling i adore which helps yeah which helps door wrestling i adore

01:06:54.780 wrestling there's not and i'd like to think that i cover it again like the same way i try to cover

01:06:59.280 mma i don't consider myself a wrestling journalist like i maybe do in mma but like when i interview

01:07:04.540 the guys like i do with the utmost respect i got to be backstage once and it was like one of the

01:07:09.520 greatest weekends of my life you're cool with turkey uh turkey and i are good yes we are why

01:07:14.100 you laugh well because there was a thing recently where uh he said that i unfollowed him and all

01:07:19.400 this but this is all pro wrestling work stuff turkey i remember when he dm'd me the very first

01:07:24.240 time and he was like uh come to the event and it didn't work out this was francis versus tyson

01:07:29.600 fury and i think that i was one of the first people to say like no francis versus tyson fury

01:07:33.960 is legit it's real it's good i think i've been very kind to them but again people's you know

01:07:39.260 sometimes people get in others ears sometimes people want to paint me into the bad guys sometimes

01:07:45.800 people don't like when i voice my opinion show me once show me once dana white anyone who is

01:07:53.700 appearing to be like uh an enemy of mine show me once that i was unfair that i hit them below the

01:07:59.140 belt that i was disrespectful that i was unprofessional that i made it personal show me

01:08:03.380 once i want to give you an opportunity right now because i know we have a stop because you have

01:08:07.520 other business to at my show you know i never do shows before my show i've never done one let's go

01:08:12.700 we're honored we don't do what i'm about to do right now we're superlatives i'm gonna just throw

01:08:17.500 i want to throw some names at you okay give a quick take on where they are and where oh yeah

01:08:22.520 maybe join in too sugar sean o'malley yeah um superstar you want me to just give you one no

01:08:30.440 not one word i'd like to quick take okay superstar one of the faces of the ufc kids especially love

01:08:36.580 him like my nephews adore him they're in their teens um where does he go i think he's exceeded

01:08:42.080 a lot of people's expectations where does he go he'll be just fine uh some guys don't necessarily

01:08:47.040 need the belt they don't necessarily need to be champion you know what i mean uh i think he's one

01:08:52.220 of those guys is it better for him yes but i think people are going to still want to watch him and by

01:08:56.720 the way i don't think 145 is out of the question too meaning him moving up jake paul jake paul um

01:09:03.220 incredible businessman uh disruptor as they like to say uh box office and um where does he go next

01:09:11.360 he has my respect um the joshua thing is crazy is that can i ask is that a real conversation 0.99

01:09:19.760 logan do you know anything about that i know that jake's a fucking lunatic and it's probably 0.98

01:09:26.040 real i i i think it's real i think it's real i think it's real explain this to me i think i 0.98

01:09:31.860 think it's realizing there are real conversations happening yeah do i think it actually ends up

01:09:36.360 happening who knows i saw joshua knock out francis and ganu and the guy was like out cold for five

01:09:40.940 minutes and and this is a guy who had never been knocked down let alone knocked out like he was

01:09:44.740 it looked like he was in and that's francis yeah you know so but dude if if it's an olympic gold

01:09:51.160 medal he even steps i'm not talking about beats him if he steps in the ring with him and actually

01:09:57.220 a bell rings and there are punches thrown every bit of jake paul is not a real boxer conversation

01:10:02.680 is gone forever i don't even subscribe to that i think that's just like haters well of course it

01:10:08.340 is of course it is but but it now it becomes completely unrealistic i do want to ask on this

01:10:14.280 note sure so jake just hired a powerhouse attorney alex spiro you saw it i'm sure to to help him take

01:10:21.200 down people who are claiming that his fights are rigged because um some notable people in the

01:10:26.620 industry who claimed jake's fights are rigged which as you know they're not but it does hurt

01:10:31.520 his business and his credibility and it's definitely a a thing for people to say when

01:10:36.200 they want to validate the fact that they can't believe that he's for sure what he's doing

01:10:39.900 do you have any any thoughts on on maybe where that's gonna go i don't know if it's just a way 0.95

01:10:45.040 to let people know like don't mess with us or stop talking shit but i think i think it's it's 0.97

01:10:50.060 a valid thing look people don't like when people sue they think it's like you know it's whack shit 0.99

01:10:55.320 like oh you're being a well like you don't sue you don't do that devon haney got a lot of shit

01:10:58.880 totally different thing but like deal with it like a man but no there is a case to be made that it 0.72

01:11:04.320 does hurt his business and so dude it absolutely hurts his business look at any post of jake paul 0.87

01:11:11.080 winning anything it's all rigged bullshit like that he heard and sued him when he when jake 0.88

01:11:17.900 suggested that you know he was messing with the judges and stuff and he said that this was hurting 0.87

01:11:22.400 our business and so his business is so big at this point as you know why not and when a guy like

01:11:28.280 you know appears morgan says something like that it was a massive massive platform it just throws

01:11:32.920 it out there now all of a sudden you have other people who are like oh shit it's fake i think i 0.59

01:11:37.180 think i think accountability is important dude and when you're in a position like jake and myself 0.90

01:11:41.980 are in where you know we're polarizing and we're kind of hate magnets for for certain people just

01:11:47.660 rub people the wrong way and invite a lot of criticism criticism that has uh objectively

01:11:53.380 provable damages and you can hold people accountable for those damages especially when

01:11:58.020 it's unwarranted and unfounded in truth i personally think is important because you do

01:12:03.740 have to draw the line in the sand somewhere of course i think and like if you sign up to play

01:12:09.040 this game which we have and we've made it this far i think protecting the sanctity of truth and

01:12:14.880 reality i.e jake paul's fights are as real as fights can get is a very important thing this

01:12:21.820 is on a much much smaller scale but even like when people are like oh man you've been banned

01:12:26.520 since 2016 that annoys me because it's not true yeah yeah the only thing there's no damages that's

01:12:32.160 like a fun rumor that we just know but it's not it's not just you guys it's just like every time

01:12:37.180 why don't you go to a fight just just one just like i don't know nip that in the bud i don't

01:12:41.880 know i don't i don't feel the need i have i have things that i have to do at home i do a post show

01:12:45.780 okay and and it would just be easier for me and i just sort of made a vow to myself because the

01:12:50.820 end was a little bit uncomfortable like what i wasn't it was very clear that like the relationship

01:12:56.380 wasn't great just cut the cord and i was just like what do i need what i love my family i love my

01:13:01.720 kids i don't like missing their soccer games on the weekend yeah why am i gonna leave and go where

01:13:07.180 i'm not welcome and leave where i am well yep but but by the way i'm not i'm not sitting here

01:13:13.000 saying like i'm never going or i'm never going to try to go or i you know like never say never of

01:13:16.900 course i would love if if things got better um am i actively trying to fix that no um because i

01:13:22.400 tried a few times and nothing happened but like i said we we exist i've got my thing uncrowned.com

01:13:28.260 i launched my own combat vertical with yahoo cool is huge for me i own the ip i own the business i

01:13:33.860 own my content this is a massive massive deal for me um and it's been a year exactly a year

01:13:38.540 so i'm i'm i'm very happy with where things are at cool i was gonna ask about bud and canelo just

01:13:44.500 because it's such an important topic but i don't know how you have yeah i think i think terrence

01:13:49.600 crawford wins yeah hell yeah yeah let's go prime athlete baby yeah yes sir wins i think there's

01:13:56.500 more at stake for him i think he's more motivated i think that a lot is being made of the weight

01:14:01.040 and i think people are forgetting who terrence crawford is oh he's the real hell yeah switch

01:14:05.800 hitter unbelievable when he is at his best he didn't look great in his last fight at 154 against

01:14:10.420 madrimov this is a huge jump up i recognize that i don't think canelo has looked great as of late

01:14:15.360 i think i think crawford wins the decision let's go and i think he shows that uh he is one of the

01:14:20.600 greatest and and probably one of the most underappreciated box hell yeah last decade

01:14:24.120 hell yeah love that take last thing i gotta ask you about ben askren yes i gotta ask about ben

01:14:28.780 ask yes what a god what a crazy thing yeah man what he got pneumonia got pneumonia double lung

01:14:34.860 transplant unbelievable fighting in the hospital what an inspiration right like the guy is

01:14:39.360 incredible and and and look when he uh jake there was a lot of slander thrown his way this guy's

01:14:43.620 out of shape first of all this guy's like an olympian dan hodge trophy winner multiple time

01:14:48.220 like to be in the frame of mind that he's in right now like to be going through what he's going

01:14:51.840 through and to also um feel the need to like teach people lesson at the same time and not

01:14:58.080 lick your wounds and not feel sorry for yourself is a great is a great sort of um is a great lesson

01:15:03.780 to us all and by the way you were going back to the we at international fight week in vegas when

01:15:08.320 i was in las vegas with all those athletes like tom aspinall and volkanovsky and izzy and marab

01:15:13.640 and and dan hooker we had a table poker table where all the fighters came we had them sign it

01:15:19.060 and we auctioned it off and we made about like sixty three hundred dollars that went to ben 0.81

01:15:23.220 askrin's family so um yeah maybe i'm not sitting in the front row eating the free catering but i

01:15:29.140 still feel like i have some kind of impact on things yeah yeah excellent all right dude that

01:15:33.440 that's all we got for you today that's it go do your show appreciate it thanks for doing our

01:15:37.080 paul hayman on today before you paul hayman i hope i'm not am i am i am i dating us when's this coming

01:15:42.900 out by the way this is a pre-tape don't hold on like don't hold on to this and like put me at the

01:15:47.860 end i think we're gonna go next tuesday i i said this then it gets like it gets outdated

01:15:52.220 we want to we should go next tuesday ask paul whose whose idea the fake injury was with seth

01:15:58.820 rollins because i have to say that was that was dirty oh wait wait i think you were you claiming

01:16:03.700 it was yours no okay you want to legit no i just don't want to know whose idea was this incredible

01:16:08.560 bro i like the dudes at home like on crutches taking his daughter for a walk down the street

01:16:13.280 wrestling baby kayfabe i mean i mean i guess so but it's do you know what kayfabe means by the way

01:16:19.200 Yeah, of course.

01:16:19.940 Yeah, of course.

01:16:20.520 Just anyways.

01:16:21.660 Is this a worker?

01:16:22.440 Yeah.

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01:16:23.780 Thank you, bro.

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