Impaulsive with Logan Paul - E139 FROM PRISONER TO BILLIONAIRE： STEVE MADDEN - IMPAULSIVE EP. 139

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00:02:12.760 I mean, Nike and Adidas are always suing people.

00:02:15.480 They think that every...

00:02:17.280 One thing about Adidas, you know, they have the three stripes.

00:02:21.220 So we made a five stripe.

00:02:22.760 They sued us. 1.00

00:02:24.080 So f*** them. 1.00

00:02:24.720 Yeah. 1.00

00:02:27.360 You know.

00:02:29.580 it's gonna be interesting

00:02:35.960 Sunday night

00:02:36.840 it's not just

00:02:37.840 any normal Sunday night

00:02:39.040 Spencer

00:02:39.360 I woke up

00:02:40.040 two hours ago

00:02:40.860 it is a Sunday

00:02:41.520 it's 7pm

00:02:42.860 did you guys get

00:02:43.620 obliterated last night

00:02:44.580 yes I was

00:02:45.160 8am dude

00:02:46.800 what

00:02:47.460 dude

00:02:48.000 getting in scuffles

00:02:49.680 with celebrities

00:02:50.300 at their houses

00:02:50.960 I'm not gonna say

00:02:51.880 any names

00:02:52.460 say it

00:02:53.440 say the name

00:02:54.000 do you hear what

00:02:54.640 he's saying right now

00:02:55.280 scuffles

00:02:55.820 what

00:02:57.600 just use your head 1.00

00:02:58.900 okay we're fucked right now do you get us in trouble are we gonna be sued this dude this 0.99

00:03:03.760 dude this dude said some said something like a girl i i pressed him a little bit because also 0.97

00:03:08.260 i was bored i get bored when i go out at parties and i found a racket ball it and by the way why

00:03:14.980 are they so much bouncier than like the average tennis ball like it's just they're pure rubber

00:03:19.300 and so i was playing with this ball and he said something and i was a kind of bored so i pressed

00:03:24.160 him a little bit he's like yo he goes you make youtube videos don't act hard i go yeah

00:03:28.420 Interesting

00:03:29.980 Let's see how many

00:03:30.900 YouTube videos

00:03:31.500 I'll make tonight

00:03:32.100 And he used that

00:03:33.000 As his clap back

00:03:33.920 And by the way

00:03:34.560 Like I get it

00:03:35.480 Like let's

00:03:36.080 But it also

00:03:37.080 Is kind of a weird

00:03:37.660 Clap back

00:03:38.060 If you say like

00:03:38.880 Let's see how many

00:03:39.640 YouTube videos I make

00:03:40.440 What do you do

00:03:40.820 Pull out his phone

00:03:41.520 And count his

00:03:42.180 Uploads

00:03:42.940 Do you know what I'm saying

00:03:43.440 He goes

00:03:44.380 He's like

00:03:45.120 He goes

00:03:45.400 You do YouTube bro

00:03:46.340 You do YouTube

00:03:46.940 I go

00:03:47.240 Watch me do YouTube

00:03:48.160 Right now

00:03:48.880 Watch me do YouTube

00:03:49.460 Right now

00:03:49.740 Come two feet

00:03:50.680 Within me

00:03:51.080 And then his boys

00:03:53.000 So it just

00:03:54.080 Probably confused him

00:03:55.080 That's what I'm saying

00:03:55.640 Like stunned him

00:03:56.020 I said

00:03:56.360 Well I mean

00:03:56.820 I was just

00:03:57.380 I don't know

00:03:57.720 I thought, imagine how funny it would have been if he was like, say it again.

00:04:01.100 Watch me do YouTube.

00:04:01.920 And the dude said it again.

00:04:02.600 He's like, good morning, love gang.

00:04:04.060 What's popping? 1.00

00:04:05.080 And just beat his ass. 1.00

00:04:06.440 Yeah, you actually tried to fight my girlfriend before leaving Andre's party. 1.00

00:04:10.280 I did?

00:04:10.700 Yeah.

00:04:11.260 Yeah.

00:04:11.460 So you were aggressive last night.

00:04:12.780 No, I'm just kidding.

00:04:13.360 You didn't really.

00:04:13.900 It was a joke.

00:04:14.680 I was walking around the club yesterday with my fists balled. 1.00

00:04:17.380 Damn, dude. 1.00

00:04:18.220 What's your problem? 1.00

00:04:19.180 Yeah, you've been a little aggressive lately.

00:04:21.520 Like sometimes I just walk in and you just kind of like growl at me.

00:04:24.580 It's just weird.

00:04:25.940 Yeah, I don't know.

00:04:26.380 I don't know.

00:04:26.700 I can't call it.

00:04:27.400 You have been though

00:04:28.900 He hasn't been

00:04:29.860 He's transitioning 0.99

00:04:33.520 Maybe that's not the right way to put it 1.00

00:04:36.040 That can't be the right

00:04:38.940 That can't be the right terminology

00:04:40.640 I don't know

00:04:41.840 Can I be completely honest

00:04:45.020 My brain doesn't work

00:04:46.800 Right now

00:04:48.160 We went out last night

00:04:50.600 Went to the vegans party

00:04:51.880 We then went to the FaZe Clan party for FaZe Rug

00:04:55.120 Which got

00:04:56.080 can you that's not right i think it's reversed we went to phase rugs birthday party got shut 0.96

00:05:03.400 down by the lapd fucking riot squad did the helicopters come uh i don't think so but they 0.59

00:05:09.860 probably should have invited 200 people to the party like to keep it kind of chill 0.97

00:05:13.120 tov the dude from phase probably invited like there's probably what like 2 000 people there

00:05:18.300 i don't know i i dude you're asking a guy's this guy questions his brain doesn't work yeah i wasn't

00:05:25.180 i wasn't trying to be funny i seriously i think i i i think i got like a concussion or something 0.98

00:05:30.600 from what last night alcohol damn dude alcohol driven maybe you should get another brain scan 0.99

00:05:39.360 and then they're just gonna be like dude you no longer have a brain which sucks because oh that 0.99

00:05:44.380 that's actually dope i think that's how nate diaz can get hit so hard and not get knocked out yeah 0.98

00:05:49.000 punch drunk no no this was surgically removed oh he's got her brain with like a walnut right

00:05:54.900 Yeah, because to get knocked out, your brain has to hit the edge of your skull.

00:05:59.320 Okay.

00:05:59.740 So they could just get rid of the brain. 1.00

00:06:01.820 The brain.

00:06:02.260 Or did they get rid of his skull?

00:06:04.520 And it's just...

00:06:05.320 No, it's true.

00:06:06.660 Should we bring the guest on?

00:06:07.900 I'll be honest with you.

00:06:08.660 I don't think we have any choice.

00:06:09.400 I think we need him.

00:06:10.280 Yeah, we need help.

00:06:11.120 This is literally one of the...

00:06:12.100 I think we need him.

00:06:12.960 Sunday night, 7 p.m.

00:06:14.280 We usually film at 1 p.m. during the week. 0.99

00:06:16.160 This is a fucking strange one. 0.99

00:06:17.480 Yep. 0.99

00:06:17.940 There's no other way to say it.

00:06:18.880 It's going to be good, though.

00:06:19.760 For a lot of us, your older sister probably had a ton of these shoes in the house growing

00:06:24.100 up.

00:06:24.360 And for the others, we got to know a little bit about this man in the Wolf of Wall Street

00:06:28.000 for which his real-life involvement led him to prison.

00:06:31.200 Here to tell us his story and celebrate 30 years of one of the most popular shoe brands in the world.

00:06:36.560 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Steve Madden.

00:06:39.880 It's all right, man.

00:06:40.900 You'll get it.

00:06:41.940 Did you have a stroke?

00:06:43.620 The sound cut out as soon as I said his name.

00:06:45.880 Oh, here we go.

00:06:46.500 I heard this.

00:06:47.380 Steve, welcome.

00:06:49.680 Welcome, Stevie.

00:06:50.660 Okay.

00:06:51.480 By the way, huge fan of you on Monday Night Football.

00:06:53.420 Always one of my favorites

00:06:54.820 Oh yeah

00:06:55.420 Your voice is profound

00:06:56.660 Oh yeah

00:06:57.320 You gotta say it

00:06:58.320 Steve

00:06:59.240 Steve Madden

00:07:01.420 Steve

00:07:02.620 Steve Madden

00:07:04.200 Steve Madden

00:07:05.420 Steve Madden

00:07:07.220 Steve Madden

00:07:08.160 Yes

00:07:08.500 So how are you man?

00:07:09.440 I'm doing good

00:07:10.120 It's good to be here

00:07:11.120 In the valley

00:07:12.720 Is it really?

00:07:13.260 Yeah

00:07:13.540 Well you know

00:07:14.060 I don't know the valley

00:07:14.980 I've never really been here

00:07:16.060 Where are you based?

00:07:17.320 New York City

00:07:17.900 Okay cool

00:07:18.520 Yeah

00:07:18.660 And what are you doing here in LA?

00:07:22.340 Let me put this

00:07:23.180 Do you want to know a funny story about that?

00:07:25.360 Yeah, go ahead.

00:07:26.440 Aaron Carter gifted me the chain on his neck.

00:07:31.560 And we had concerns about it being fake.

00:07:34.420 And sure enough, we went on Amazon and bought this one for $20.

00:07:38.720 This is supposed to have like 50 carats worth of diamonds in it.

00:07:41.680 Yeah, yeah.

00:07:42.120 Well, the pendant was real, right?

00:07:44.520 The diamonds are real.

00:07:46.240 The chain was not.

00:07:47.200 The chain was fake white gold and cubic sarkov.

00:07:49.300 Have we heard anything back from AC?

00:07:51.560 Is he kicking stuff?

00:07:53.180 He's not happy

00:07:53.820 He called me sneaky

00:07:55.240 I'd like to get 0.99

00:07:56.060 One made for me

00:07:57.640 Oh

00:07:58.620 I think it would be great

00:07:59.580 I think you could

00:08:00.020 That pull it off

00:08:00.560 Yeah

00:08:01.020 I think it'd be good

00:08:01.780 What do you think

00:08:02.500 Yeah let me get that open for you

00:08:03.660 Yeah let me try that on

00:08:04.780 I like that

00:08:05.560 It's pretty hard to open

00:08:07.000 Yeah

00:08:07.300 Mr. Mad

00:08:09.360 Yes sir

00:08:09.840 Steve

00:08:10.020 Whatever I call you

00:08:10.580 I don't need you to point that mic 0.92

00:08:11.960 Up towards your mouth

00:08:12.540 And basically 1.00

00:08:13.080 Suck on it 0.99

00:08:14.440 But not in so many less words 1.00

00:08:15.820 Cause you gotta speak up

00:08:18.100 You gotta

00:08:18.420 I gotta speak up

00:08:19.400 How's my voice

00:08:20.740 Sounds great

00:08:21.540 Sounds crystal clear

00:08:22.400 it's good having a fellow east coaster on yeah yeah well you guys are making a big impact

00:08:27.280 oh yeah look at this i love it man it might be a little too small man it's too small i look like

00:08:32.380 mr t with it you youngsters remember mr t right i do because i'm not young steve that's all right

00:08:40.320 okay so you got into you got into shoes yeah at a young age yes sir and i'm reading here that you

00:08:45.140 sold shoes out of your trunk i did i did what made your shoes a hit versus other you didn't ask me

00:08:51.040 why i sold them out of a trunk but i lost my license your driver's license yes i did i had

00:08:58.060 about five dewees in a very short period five you know what you're getting out five yeah yeah yeah

00:09:04.660 so i had a driver i really couldn't afford one but i didn't i couldn't function so i had a guy

00:09:11.400 in my building in new york city and i i said look i'll give you 60 bucks a day you just drive me

00:09:16.600 around and uh that's how we started you got to do what you got to do dang yeah and and and why

00:09:23.600 shoes i'm i'm and were they women women's shoes women's shoes yeah well today we do everything

00:09:28.280 kids men's i'm curious uh like where are you all did you have like an eye for women's shoes or

00:09:35.060 so uh i worked in a shoe store okay in high school and that's how i got into it really so

00:09:43.080 Yeah, that's it.

00:09:43.680 And you just said, I could do this better.

00:09:45.140 I could do it.

00:09:45.960 What was the hole in the market that was missing

00:09:49.460 or that you felt like you could fill?

00:09:52.280 You know, that's a very good question.

00:09:55.940 And so in those days, that was like 1990.

00:09:59.480 And everybody had forgotten about Gen X.

00:10:03.720 They called it Gen X then.

00:10:05.660 And everybody just forgot about the young girl.

00:10:09.600 They were just making shoes.

00:10:10.740 And so by accident or just like that, I started making kind of funky shoes and they just caught on because nobody was doing it.

00:10:19.900 That's crazy.

00:10:20.900 Yeah.

00:10:21.220 A little luck, a little bit of luck, but yeah.

00:10:23.860 I don't want to like go without go too long without saying this.

00:10:27.400 You started selling from selling shoes out of a trunk.

00:10:30.660 And I'm sure there's some people watching the show, maybe some because we have a younger fan base that might not know what Steve Madden is.

00:10:37.960 but i'm looking at your your 2018 uh sales here yeah and it looks like uh is this a q4 figure

00:10:47.460 410 million dollars or is that yeah that's a whole the whole year was 1.4 billion yeah this

00:10:53.480 year this is you people say you know 1.4 billion dollar company that's not what this is this is

00:10:58.140 1.4 billion dollars in annual revenue yeah well we do have a 2 billion this year wow yeah that's

00:11:04.280 something like that and our market cap

00:11:07.020 we're a public company

00:11:08.140 is over 3 billion

00:11:10.880 yeah so

00:11:12.680 I started with 1100 dollars

00:11:14.740 so how do you

00:11:15.940 once you have a hot item

00:11:18.200 and a shoe and a product that's working

00:11:20.620 how do you turn it into a global brand

00:11:22.560 so you know it's one foot in front of the other

00:11:24.860 I started with one shoe

00:11:26.080 30 years ago and

00:11:27.620 one thing led to another

00:11:29.860 and that was it

00:11:32.600 you know now we have a whole

00:11:33.800 we sell around the world middle east uh israel was looking short in the process a little bit

00:11:41.340 there for us you just you just you had 1100 bucks you made a show i did i did do a jump

00:11:45.900 i'm tired that's why so are we steve so are we was a night in the valley bags i gotta you know

00:11:52.120 i'm on new york time i there was a lot of steps so you know i have an interesting story i made it

00:11:57.180 i made a documentary on net it's on netflix and amazon and whatnot and uh you know i had a long

00:12:04.980 journey you know it was a it was a long journey and i didn't mean to to jump right to it but you

00:12:11.540 know i did a couple of years in prison i was involved with the whole wolf for wall street gang

00:12:17.240 and uh and trying to raise money for my company they were childhood friends

00:12:22.960 and uh and so one thing led to another and uh and i went through that and actually

00:12:31.200 you know uh that actually helped me build the business now why you may ask why and i will tell

00:12:39.800 you why because it forced me to hire a whole team which is what most most founders don't do that

00:12:48.880 right everybody tries to do everything themselves right why why do they do that by the way because 1.00

00:12:54.620 they're fucking egomaniac motherfuckers who want to control everything i shouldn't can i have my 1.00

00:12:59.840 say whatever the fuck my kids watch this they love you guys my kids love you guys we'll try to 1.00

00:13:06.300 they really do that's why i'm here i just like a fun fact i just facetimed them before this podcast 0.99

00:13:11.400 and his daughter goes logan they should have taken away those two boys i was like i know

00:13:18.780 sweetheart she's wise shout out shout out goldie goldie stevie and jack yeah stevie was the one

00:13:24.000 jack goldie yeah stevie was the was the shoe backtracking a little bit was the shoe industry

00:13:29.080 a lot easier to get into back then do you think it's like too saturated now to start a business

00:13:34.280 another great question actually i thought we would be joking around tonight and your questions are as

00:13:40.080 good as when i go to big panels oh we're gonna listen we're gonna get there no maybe we're all

00:13:45.760 over the place whatever but uh no today it's driven by sneakers so there's so much and i know

00:13:51.320 a lot of your friends have deals and all of that and you know like that but we do a lot of shoes

00:13:58.480 and we do sneakers too but it's difficult today it is because nike and adidas you know so powerful

00:14:05.560 what would be that business if you could pick now today if you were slanging something out the back

00:14:11.940 of a truck what would it be do you see an opportunity yeah i'd probably like ipod chargers

00:14:18.060 or something wow i wouldn't i would charge pod chargers probably iphone yeah no everybody's

00:14:24.780 like everybody my age is always looking for a charger it's really unbelievable i lost three

00:14:30.220 last week yeah but to his point in a saturated market of iphone charger yes they're selling

00:14:37.220 iphone chargers yeah but it's the core last time you saw someone who was selling ipod

00:14:41.660 chargers now i'm not saying there's a need for it that said if you want market ownership

00:14:47.180 you got it you got it nobody else is fucking doing it bro we got to find the blackberry guys 0.80

00:14:53.200 and facts regenerators yeah razor guys yeah how close was that representation of uh of you in 0.96

00:15:00.560 wolf of wall street it was it was really good it was really good and as much you know like i wasn't

00:15:05.340 into it and uh i thought oh shit i don't want to talk about this part of my life i don't want it

00:15:11.540 to be brought up again. But we eventually, uh, worked with the film. We, you know, we joined

00:15:19.020 their team in a way they, they wanted to use commercial and, and, uh, film in our store and

00:15:25.000 stuff like that. And, uh, it was very accurate. Surprisingly, it was a great film. You know, I

00:15:31.960 was, I was nervous watching it and, uh, it was a terrific film and, uh, you know, my hats off to

00:15:38.580 them but that scene there was a scene with me uh it was like the boardroom right yeah you were in

00:15:46.280 like the whole entire office i'm in the office i'm nervous it's like 400 gorillas it's screaming 0.99

00:15:51.360 at me they go you know and i'm like my my shoes are intact you know like like shut the fuck up 0.91

00:15:58.680 they're throwing shoes at you all calling me names and it is exact and jordan came over and 0.93

00:16:06.240 hugged me and he said no this guy he's gonna be he's going to be very big and he was right

00:16:11.460 and uh but it was it was like that it was kind of freaky how they captured it they made it funny

00:16:17.500 uh but you know i flopped you know i just flopped i thought i was so cool i got in front of these

00:16:24.920 kids you know we had jordan on the show yes yeah yeah i saw a little bit of it it was interesting

00:16:30.940 to say that to say the least i mean he's a brilliant guy yeah he really is are you still

00:16:35.200 tight with him no we don't we don't uh you know i haven't seen him i haven't seen him around you

00:16:39.780 know no hard no hard feelings right you know actually you know so we were talking about it

00:16:45.520 i don't really have any hard feelings i actually wouldn't be here today without him to be honest

00:16:52.540 with you because he was so smart and he was a great teacher for me and we bonded because he

00:16:58.780 kind of was he saw me as being an entrepreneur and he was an entrepreneur and you know he was

00:17:04.920 a little frustrated because he was you know there was a lot of legal stuff and he put a lot into me

00:17:11.060 and uh and so i got a lot from him and uh you know unfortunately it didn't end well yeah isn't

00:17:19.280 he the reason you went to prison well he was one of the reasons you know he he he testified against

00:17:24.280 me and uh but i am not but i forgive him and uh i i broke the law with him and i don't blame

00:17:33.400 anybody and uh and you know net net it was a positive you know i don't see him and that's

00:17:39.760 cool you know it is what it is and he's doing well yeah and uh i think his son is going to

00:17:47.380 intern at our company really yes really yeah i don't even know if he knows that do you do you

00:17:52.540 think there's any such thing as bad press i do you do i do yeah i do because i mean you guys are

00:17:59.360 like on it i'm not i'm from a different generation but uh this bad press you know i mean we were

00:18:06.180 talking about bella thorne you know who i had dinner with the other night and uh you know she

00:18:11.860 had something going on with uh some yeah naked stuff or yeah and i don't know i mean i don't

00:18:20.480 think any press is good press no i don't think so yeah i'm the same way by the way i remember uh

00:18:25.860 there's extremes yeah yeah like they you know they say all publicity is good publicity no that's

00:18:31.660 that's just not true no like i'd much rather just try to stay positive yeah in the view of the

00:18:36.660 people and you want to stay true to yourself yeah you want to be to thine own self be true

00:18:40.940 you know but uh it's not good i've been through i've had a lot of terrible publicity

00:18:46.720 you know dude i i was i pulled up some you've been sued a lot yeah like a lot yeah and is is

00:18:55.780 It's part of the business

00:18:57.000 It's part of the business

00:18:59.540 You take a sneaker, you see an idea

00:19:01.480 You're making another shoe, you adapt the idea

00:19:03.880 I mean Nike and Adidas are always suing people

00:19:06.460 They think that every

00:19:08.460 One thing about Adidas

00:19:10.000 They have the three stripes

00:19:12.600 So we made a five stripe

00:19:13.920 They sued us 1.00

00:19:15.180 So fuck them 1.00

00:19:16.420 So we do a four stripe 1.00

00:19:22.020 They would do a seven stripe

00:19:23.220 But they think they own all stripes

00:19:25.380 do they own the flag

00:19:27.660 where does it stop

00:19:28.900 the sergeants three strikes

00:19:30.340 they sued the police and the army

00:19:33.200 oh my god

00:19:33.980 so we get a little bit of that

00:19:37.060 and then we had a little thing with Gucci

00:19:38.840 I have called Gaia

00:19:40.700 suing Steve Brown for 15 million 0.99

00:19:43.020 yeah it's bullshit 0.99

00:19:43.880 some of the ones you don't even care 1.00

00:19:45.800 we're suing Gaia

00:19:48.100 that Gaia guy back

00:19:49.380 yeah it's about a specific bag

00:19:52.240 that is a Japanese heritage bag

00:19:55.300 that they are claiming is there.

00:19:56.800 How often are you taking the hit on these lawsuits?

00:20:00.620 Do you ever do it?

00:20:01.420 We settle.

00:20:02.880 We beat them.

00:20:05.200 You know, we've...

00:20:07.640 It hasn't...

00:20:09.280 You know, I know that if we're doing our job right,

00:20:13.440 we should have a pile of them over here

00:20:15.680 because we're seeing so much out there interpreting.

00:20:19.220 But I will tell you that Steve Madden,

00:20:21.500 the brand is the most copied shoe brand in the world if you go to china they are copying my 0.80

00:20:28.320 shit like crazy are you still conceptualize yeah ideas for shoes absolutely really yeah

00:20:34.280 yeah all the time yeah is that is that the majority mostly women's shoes i don't really 0.99

00:20:38.680 have a i you know men's is the you know i like what i wear is i wear combat boots and shit like

00:20:44.360 that so that i've had a little influence on the line you know with combat boots and sort of what

00:20:50.620 they call engineer boots and things i like that that's what i wear and uh but women's i'm always

00:20:56.740 working on women's shoes always i'm i'm i guess i'm still just fascinated like if you took if

00:21:01.500 anyone told me to design a women's shoe i i i'm not sure i don't really know what i would do i'd

00:21:08.040 probably get combust no you wouldn't combust you'd figure it out you're very creative you'd figure

00:21:13.300 it out but did you have a woman in your life who you would have her try on the shoes or ask her

00:21:18.680 opinions or anything course you always do that you know like all you know there's nothing like 0.98

00:21:24.700 a woman puts on a shoe and the way they move in the shoe it's just it blows your mind it really 0.99

00:21:29.780 does it's it's very inspiring when did you when did you know you wanted to design women's shit 0.99

00:21:36.220 like like how do you get to that point in your life like so you grow up you're a kid i'm assuming 0.99

00:21:39.680 you're from new york probably play baseball baseball shit like that right little golf 0.97

00:21:43.880 baseball i wrestled you could see by the body amazing you can see yeah when when did you say 0.99

00:21:50.580 i'm gonna flip a switch and design women's shoes so okay so that that's another good question so

00:21:55.200 there was a point in my life where i was working i was like 23 or 24 years old i was in a factory

00:22:01.020 somewhere and i was selling shoes you know and then the designers weren't around and i started

00:22:06.860 playing around in the factory just let's put that let's take the top of that shoe and put it on that

00:22:13.420 bottom and i started doing that and and we made the shoes and they sold like crazy and i said you

00:22:18.680 know i sort of had a a little knack you know a little feel for this thing do you ever get any 0.91

00:22:23.920 shit from from your homies like for designing women's shoes of course at what point when i was

00:22:31.560 a kid they used to make fun of me well there was a show you know there was a show uh before you all 1.00

00:22:37.240 of your time uh was called married with children of course al bundy fucking bundy they used to call 0.97

00:22:41.700 me al bundy oh yeah because he was a women's shoe dealer yeah you can call me al bundy first of all 0.99

00:22:48.360 al bundy was the fucking man yeah he was okay he was he was chilling nothing stressed him out 0.96

00:22:52.800 you know in those days uh so back in the day and where i'm from in new york that people lived in 0.99

00:23:01.400 the suburbs kind of like encino but in new york city whereabouts it was it was a south shore long

00:23:06.800 island called the five towns place called the five i'm from right across the water in connecticut

00:23:10.340 okay so the big thing was you know you got out of college or maybe you didn't make it to college

00:23:17.380 like me yeah and you you went into the city and you worked in the city rode the train in you know

00:23:23.360 and i stayed home in my hometown and worked in a shoe store got abused by women and uh you know

00:23:30.060 but i you know it was like boot camp for me pardon the expression you know it was like i got bloodied

00:23:35.180 I got beat up women you know torture you and you know you learn that's how you learn the business

00:23:41.400 you know you learn it right there on the floor and that's what I learned you know you could tell 1.00

00:23:45.220 a woman puts a shoe on what she says how she cavorts in front of the mirror and you you get

00:23:50.780 a feel for you know what she likes do you ever get hit by a shoe I had a girl throw a shoe at me 1.00

00:23:58.640 Is it one of yours?

00:23:59.700 That's another story for another day.

00:24:02.600 We come back.

00:24:04.020 Part two.

00:24:05.240 It's really cool to hear you talk about the way you perceive shoes.

00:24:12.360 It sounds like you're describing art in a way.

00:24:16.140 Did you always have a creative bone in your body?

00:24:18.760 Let me address that also because it's art, but it's business.

00:24:24.220 and and i'm turned on by what turns me on is is when the the intersection of art and commerce

00:24:32.160 as you guys are obviously so in other words i'm not just into making shoes if they don't sell 0.97

00:24:37.860 i have no interest in that it's boring to me on the other hand i don't want to make shit that 0.82

00:24:43.060 sells that i don't dig either yeah so there's a combination where you want to hit that you know 0.86

00:24:49.200 hit that the right way yeah so that's what it's about for me you pay attention to uh to all the

00:24:53.560 trends you have any thoughts about the current you watch what virgil does and offway do you pay

00:24:58.280 attention all that shit of course and he's amazing and i'm always hearing about virgil

00:25:03.560 wherever i go kind of the king yeah he's the man and you know we we both won awards at something 0.98

00:25:10.320 a year or two ago and he gave me a shout out it was nice i think my kids were there nice

00:25:15.200 that was probably a big yeah well they're too they're too young to know about offway oh no

00:25:19.420 they are not really no no logan paul off-white yeah yeah yeah as you know yeah right i was gonna

00:25:29.300 ask um i want to talk about this uh your your involvement with stratton a little bit um because

00:25:38.700 that that whole thing is absolutely crazy um we're talking about stratt yeah yeah yeah probably the

00:25:46.540 most famous pump and dump pumping of all time and you know that's it's not the only one but

00:25:51.800 definitely one of the biggest how did that how did that come to fruition how did so so the guy 0.77

00:25:57.020 so jordan's guy danny yeah uh who was played by jonah hill jonah hill infamous fucking jonah

00:26:06.260 hill yeah yeah it was it was it was incredible yeah it was fucking incredible he did a great 0.62

00:26:11.740 he should have won an oscar absolutely so danny was a childhood friend we were like

00:26:17.520 you know we were like in second grade together so he comes along and he knows that i'm a sort

00:26:23.840 of struggling talented sort of dude and he says look i can raise you money you know and uh i met

00:26:31.100 this guy jordan he's a genius and i can get you money me i've never had more than my bankroll was

00:26:38.440 like 15 000 that's like the biggest i ever had in my life i don't even know if i had that but

00:26:45.380 you know it's like he said well we'll raise you you know we'll raise you you know 600 grand and

00:26:51.860 then we'll get you 7 million like yeah okay whatever it was like might as well been pipe

00:26:57.120 might as well said 6 billion so you know that was it and then they came through and there was

00:27:04.160 did it happen did it happen so fast that like you you said yes to something and then you're like 0.98

00:27:09.340 yeah because that's gonna happen and then all of a sudden you're fucking in over your head that is 0.84

00:27:13.020 exactly what happened i didn't believe yeah you're gonna get me six million bucks yeah you know i'm 0.94

00:27:17.660 struggling i'm hustling you know and uh they did and it was an intoxicating atmosphere what jordan

00:27:25.780 did is so incredible and uh you know i've read interviews recently i saw something he said that

00:27:32.920 he should be a billionaire and he should be a billionaire he really should and the guy was

00:27:38.280 incredible and uh and i've never seen anything like this it was it was unreal but you know it

00:27:44.680 was a lot of stuff i mean everything that went with it in the movie you know the girls and the

00:27:49.840 boats and the quaaludes the quaaludes how much involvement did you have with like that stuff i

00:27:55.160 know about quaaludes i could i'm an expert on quaaludes but by that time i was not taking quaaludes

00:28:01.620 but when i was in college that was the drug of my generation it was the most incredible drug

00:28:07.820 of all time but those guys got lewds like they must have been what they call bootlegs

00:28:13.860 you guys use that word yeah i do knockoffs yeah no they call them no this is called a boot oh an 0.60

00:28:19.200 actual drug word bootleg yeah like a like a shitty no no they made it some you know bogus

00:28:27.560 pharmacy right you know makes gets the recipe yeah and they make them yeah and that's what they

00:28:33.800 jordan was and the guys were it's like a moonshine but for but for like moonshine very good yeah yeah

00:28:39.200 it's crazy it's a crazy so how long did you how long did you do all that kind of stuff for because

00:28:44.080 i've read about your you know your trials and tribulations yeah well i got sober before i met

00:28:48.720 those guys really yeah so how old were you i got sober at 30 and stayed sober yeah congrats yeah

00:28:55.720 through that environment yeah yeah that's wild we've we've had our uh yeah but i was crazy man

00:29:00.960 lunatic yeah and what other departments no and in drugs and alcohol yeah yeah did you have

00:29:07.480 did you have something that made you want to go sober was there an incident or did you just i was

00:29:12.280 just so such terrible shape that you know it was like either do that or die or i don't know what

00:29:20.340 but it was bad i really was uh you know the way i might the fervor that i put into the shoe

00:29:29.100 business i put into my drug use and i was like that you know a billionaire except i had no money 0.95

00:29:35.240 but you're an addict you're an addict you're an addict's addict oh baby i feel like that's so 0.77

00:29:39.420 many stories it really is absolutely yeah yeah you you you channeled it towards something positive

00:29:46.000 You know, I want to say something about that too, because this is important, you know, to the people that don't know, they'll say, well, you know, it's willpower, just don't use. And it's not about willpower. You know, getting sober is not about willpower. Okay.

00:30:05.100 uh because it's a disease and you know you and i always say to people well imagine if you had

00:30:12.180 terrible diarrhea you wouldn't be able to will yourself to not you know go to the bathroom yeah

00:30:19.120 you wouldn't be able to because you just you couldn't help it because and it's like that

00:30:23.900 you know and uh drug addicts are the most willful people in the world they have more willpower 0.97

00:30:29.480 they'll figure out if there's no their shit is not around you know they'll figure out a way to 0.99

00:30:34.840 get to the moon to cop you know they'll come up with something you know four in the morning you 0.99

00:30:39.840 guys may know people like that i know i know a person very much like that you know myself you

00:30:45.040 know i was just saying i was a drug addict for 10 years yeah you just figure out a way to cop 0.64

00:30:49.200 you know unbelievably ingenious ways you know to fucking cop right i know it yeah i mean you see 0.77

00:30:56.940 it all you see people on the streets right now you know changing in bottles and you know there's 0.96

00:31:01.860 There's a lot of people that sell drugs to get drugs.

00:31:04.260 There's a lot of people that steal from houses.

00:31:06.060 There's people that forge checks.

00:31:07.140 There's people that forge prescriptions.

00:31:08.960 I mean, the world of addiction is a whole other world that people don't know exists under the shadows of the world that we exist in.

00:31:18.500 There's a whole other environment of people that spend every single day of their lives trying to get their fix.

00:31:26.180 And it's a wild, wild, wild place.

00:31:29.240 And there's no rules.

00:31:30.240 and it's uh you know i talk about it a lot in my book when it comes out in march is it's just it's 0.98

00:31:35.620 a crazy fucking place dude and i know a guy that took a hammer and smashed his fingers so he could 0.95

00:31:42.940 go to the emergency room to get pain pills that blew wow i swear to god i know i saw the guy i 0.99

00:31:49.100 mean you gotta want it no i mean that's what that's what i mean you talk about willpower gotta 0.93

00:31:53.040 want it that's fucking willpower it's crazy yeah it's crazy there's no i mean there's no limit i 0.85

00:31:58.480 mean i saw the amount of people i saw that were you know straight a students that you know two 0.98

00:32:04.040 years later they were you know one year they're about to finish their bachelor's and two years

00:32:07.480 later they're literal prostitutes you know selling selling their bodies to heroin it's uh and i mean 0.64

00:32:13.080 quick you know quick like you'd never believe you're like oh how's how's so-and-so doing oh i

00:32:17.340 mean she and by the way like ask a year later and she's dead now you know what i'm saying and it's

00:32:21.220 like nuts it's it's wild i think i think it's a it's a world that a lot of people yeah choose not 0.98

00:32:26.160 to see him by the way rightfully so did you know i wouldn't want to fuck did you know like kennedy 0.98

00:32:29.880 was like on i'm pretty sure it was meth at uh like his doctor was prescribed i know a little 0.98

00:32:35.300 bit it was like methamphetamines right no he used to get a shot there was a doctor in new york who

00:32:41.560 gave these guys shots and and it was like b12 and crystal and methadrine crystal meth yeah you know

00:32:47.360 mixed up a lot of vitamins and they take this shot they called him dr feelgood yeah boom yeah 0.71

00:32:52.780 Hitler had a guy 0.74

00:32:54.220 doing that too 0.98

00:32:54.920 that's why like 0.81

00:32:56.080 Hitler just lost his mind 0.94

00:32:57.260 all these 0.62

00:32:58.080 all these different

00:32:58.800 like big leaders

00:33:00.320 just back in the day

00:33:01.440 it was common

00:33:01.920 didn't you tell me that

00:33:03.140 the Germans in one of the 0.72

00:33:04.680 world wars were all on meth 0.99

00:33:06.220 yeah

00:33:06.560 did you tell me that

00:33:07.560 is that true

00:33:08.000 yeah so they

00:33:08.540 David is that true

00:33:09.200 David can you confirm

00:33:10.060 were your ancestors on meth

00:33:12.680 Ritalin

00:33:14.360 yeah

00:33:14.580 it was

00:33:15.320 they would

00:33:16.560 so the Germans were known

00:33:18.240 during World War II

00:33:19.080 like right at the end

00:33:20.440 of World War I

00:33:21.040 they started attacking 0.98

00:33:22.020 neighboring uh countries yeah and they did this in a strategy called blitzkrieg and they would

00:33:27.180 just go go go like they would do it like go all in and so all of them were taking this this drug

00:33:32.760 it started with a p i forget what it was uppers yeah and so these these people that were getting 0.58

00:33:38.360 attacked by the germans are like what the hell these people are super humans they were going

00:33:41.380 like three nights no sleeping just like go go go now now they do it and they blitzkrieg walmart 0.62

00:33:46.460 yeah they're still doing blitzkrieg man it's just it's in costco yeah pilots take amphetamines

00:33:54.500 to stay away yeah i mean they and you know military guys yeah drugs are weird man there's

00:34:00.620 yeah there's so many goods and so many bads and the line is so there's no shortcut it's so blurry

00:34:06.440 as to when it turns from a from a good thing to a bad thing and how quickly that could happen is

00:34:10.860 like so if you're if you're dying of cancer and you know they got drugs that yeah oxycontin was 0.68

00:34:18.660 all that shit right i mean it's like you know you're dying and you're i mean it's so bad 0.68

00:34:24.320 whatever they give you fentanyl they give you all this stuff then you know people took that 0.99

00:34:28.780 and they ran with it yeah and uh opiate addiction is a terrible thing yeah taking the country over

00:34:34.600 big big time it's very addictive you i mean i think if you you know you do it's right away

00:34:40.560 it gets you right away yeah that's what oxys were originally made for is for stage four cancer

00:34:44.700 patients right end of life take these pills so that you don't die in agony and then they

00:34:49.640 started getting marketed to people who had broken femurs and then it kept trickling down from there 0.98

00:34:54.660 before you knew it you know you're in florida buying yeah 360 oxy 80s for fucking a broken 0.63

00:35:00.220 finger you know what i'm saying and and that's how that's how purdue you know eventually met 0.81

00:35:04.460 its downfall and it's still they're still trying to wiggle out of billions of dollars i think it

00:35:07.980 It was $7 billion?

00:35:09.200 Yeah.

00:35:10.000 Yeah, one of the Sackler family. 0.88

00:35:11.520 Sacklers.

00:35:12.220 The Sackler. 0.91

00:35:12.960 Do they live in Encino?

00:35:14.720 I think they live down the block. 1.00

00:35:15.980 Those sons of bitches. 1.00

00:35:18.040 If my mom saw that dude shoot fly, no. 1.00

00:35:22.040 If you see a fire in Encino soon, just don't. 1.00

00:35:25.080 No one hates the Sackler family more than my fucking mom, trust me. 0.99

00:35:29.620 I see a common trend in people that go through addictions. 0.99

00:35:32.680 They come out on the other side and they find something that they're passionate about,

00:35:36.480 that they're connected to and like whether it be giving back whether it be putting out you know

00:35:41.840 content whatever yeah what's your thing that's a good question you know giving back is good the

00:35:48.660 more you share the more you have and uh you know when you know i got a bunch of friends that

00:35:55.000 you know we we have the same thing and we hang out and it helps us all and um you know i guess

00:36:03.200 i put it into work too and you know the stratton thing so i was sober but like now i was into money

00:36:09.280 so it's like a whole other trip that i was on you know which was like being greedy and nothing's 0.70

00:36:15.120 ever enough and uh you know so that's like a it's kind of people get into gambling and shit like

00:36:22.980 that and and uh you know yeah yeah that's why you kind of that's why there are programs for all that

00:36:30.280 You kind of have to learn how to live life

00:36:32.120 Food addictions are huge

00:36:34.540 Anything you do too much of

00:36:36.300 Yeah, food addiction

00:36:37.180 Food addiction is a big one

00:36:39.080 And then of course sex addiction

00:36:42.240 Yeah, we got somebody on the set here

00:36:44.060 He's got that problem, we have to deal with it

00:36:46.140 He's going to have to go to meetings 0.70

00:36:48.660 I don't even like sex 0.80

00:36:50.200 Yo, I'd be down to go to 0.57

00:36:52.220 Essay

00:36:53.440 Sex Addicts Anonymous 1.00

00:36:56.400 Yeah, just to have more sex 0.99

00:36:58.720 Oh, of course 0.99

00:36:59.160 I want him to be there to stop trying to have sex 0.97

00:37:01.640 and be there to be around women 0.98

00:37:03.760 who are all... 0.98

00:37:04.260 The devil has entered you, child. 0.99

00:37:07.260 He does not have a sex addiction. 0.99

00:37:08.700 I know people that truly have sex addictions.

00:37:11.260 He ain't one of them. 1.00

00:37:12.800 Trisha Paytas was admittingly had a sex addiction. 1.00

00:37:15.620 She needs to have sex 10, 15 times a day. 0.99

00:37:18.660 Like this kid, 1.00

00:37:19.920 if he gets it twice a week, 0.99

00:37:21.400 he's fucking happy as a clam, dude. 0.99

00:37:23.080 That's plenty for him, bro. 1.00

00:37:26.180 Cut that out.

00:37:28.020 But anyway,

00:37:28.360 you know whatever i mean there's all sorts of addictions and food is a big one

00:37:31.800 you know people eat to stuff their feelings you know they get a little

00:37:35.500 emotionally yeah yeah it's a big deal yeah you said uh you got addicted to money i looked up 1.00

00:37:41.520 your net worth it said 300 million dollars that's all so um that's a that's bullshit it's more than 0.99

00:37:47.280 that has to be are you worth 1.4 b boys i can't tell you that i'm worth a few dollars but you 0.92

00:37:53.820 know you got some money i got some dough and i wanted to ask you yeah do you have something that

00:37:57.540 I snort money now.

00:37:59.980 Grind it up, shred it up, and snort it.

00:38:04.560 What are you sniffing through?

00:38:05.940 Not another dollar bill?

00:38:07.380 It better be new bills, too.

00:38:10.220 You'd be surprised what you could do

00:38:11.680 with shredded money.

00:38:13.460 Yeah, it cures AIDS.

00:38:17.040 Well, it did it in a South Park episode.

00:38:19.200 Oh, okay.

00:38:20.240 It must be true, then.

00:38:21.980 Yeah, I didn't know where you were going with that.

00:38:23.840 South Park is based in reality.

00:38:25.980 It's science-based.

00:38:27.540 100%.

00:38:27.940 I was going to ask you, do you have something that you own

00:38:31.340 that is your favorite thing that you bought?

00:38:34.900 I mean, what do you really do with all that money?

00:38:37.620 You know, that's a good question.

00:38:39.300 What do I own?

00:38:40.200 You know, I mean, I'm not really, I'm kind of a simple cat.

00:38:44.660 You know, I don't really, I might fly around private jets,

00:38:49.980 but that's about it.

00:38:50.980 I mean, I have a few cars, I have a Corvette, I love that.

00:38:54.920 How come you're addicted to making money then?

00:38:56.860 No, I'm not really anymore.

00:38:58.020 Okay.

00:38:58.320 No, no, no.

00:38:58.780 That's over with.

00:38:59.580 I'm just saying this, you know, when you're young, you're coming up, you're switching 0.99

00:39:02.360 addictions, you're becoming a lunatic. 0.98

00:39:04.980 And, but no, no. 1.00

00:39:08.280 That's very interesting.

00:39:09.660 Yeah.

00:39:10.000 So what's the, what's the point?

00:39:12.580 I mean, I know where you're headed.

00:39:13.880 That's a, you're headed to the ultimate.

00:39:16.280 Yeah.

00:39:16.480 What are you going to do with all that money?

00:39:17.920 What's your purpose?

00:39:18.680 What's your, no, it's, listen, we, we should do like a five hour show on this.

00:39:23.940 I mean, it's a big deal.

00:39:24.720 you have to, you need a purpose in your life. It's a, it's your, well, today I have my children,

00:39:30.220 which is a big deal, but that's not everything. You know, I, I love my children. I, you know,

00:39:35.660 that's, it shifts a little bit to that. Uh, and then, you know, you try to be a good citizen,

00:39:43.100 try to, you know, one thing, if I feel like I've won, right. So you have to be generous about it.

00:39:50.460 You can't be an asshole, you know, and I don't need to be the smartest guy all the time or like correct people or, you know, let's say I'm with someone and I know that they're being an idiot friend or that they're wrong about something. 0.99

00:40:05.680 I don't need to like, no, or I don't need to say that I've done this better. 1.00

00:40:10.040 I've been there, you know, which I used to do.

00:40:12.840 Right.

00:40:13.160 I mean, it's kind of bragging and stuff like that.

00:40:14.920 So now it's.

00:40:15.720 You've had the ego kind of pulled out of the equation.

00:40:17.600 a little bit we say we say my ego is not my amigo nice i love that yeah yeah yo egos are the worst

00:40:28.040 yeah i've seen i've seen so many people fall because of their ego and it's interesting because

00:40:32.920 it in many ways your ego is like a form of protection like insulation almost for yourself

00:40:38.040 i think that's why human beings have egos yes to protect their worth in a way right that's true but

00:40:43.460 also but also it can just i mean it can quite literally screw you over i can in my life even

00:40:49.560 like very close personal life um i've seen i've seen relationships severed because of an ego

00:40:57.180 um business opportunities lost because of an ego that happens all the time all the time yeah i'm

00:41:03.200 dealing with that too every i still deal with that yeah you know guys you know we have to accept

00:41:09.200 the state of things and people

00:41:11.380 you know have an unrealistic

00:41:13.560 view of themselves and it

00:41:15.320 I try to give people

00:41:17.720 the benefit of the doubt

00:41:19.220 if their ego is warranted

00:41:21.420 like he'll tell you like if

00:41:22.800 if you're like insanely

00:41:25.360 successful or insanely talented

00:41:27.420 yeah that specifically I

00:41:29.140 I'll let it slide

00:41:31.520 a little more so you'd let Drake

00:41:33.360 slide yeah yes

00:41:35.120 absolutely

00:41:35.980 absolutely okay i would i would be stunned if he did not have an ego right like a and by the way

00:41:42.620 he doesn't seem like a dude with a crazy ego right yeah he's not he's crazy he's pretty chill

00:41:48.120 the best ones are always the ones that when you say that like we we hung out with abel last night

00:41:54.780 i was gonna say this so i yeah we i i had a conversation with abel who's the weekend yeah

00:42:01.200 Insanely talented.

00:42:02.840 Legit one of the coolest celebrities I've ever met.

00:42:05.240 He was so chill.

00:42:07.360 Regular dude.

00:42:08.240 No ego at all.

00:42:09.600 Yeah.

00:42:10.280 Always the most refreshing thing.

00:42:11.780 Always.

00:42:11.980 When you meet some massive celebrity that has every right to be the most ego-driven or whatever,

00:42:18.740 and they come up to you and, hey, I saw your fight, man.

00:42:21.760 That was dope.

00:42:22.740 Congratulations.

00:42:23.520 They're just cool people down to earth.

00:42:26.300 That's always the most refreshing thing for me to see, and that's what I aspire to,

00:42:29.300 no matter whatever happens it's left to just treat everybody equally so that's the paradox right

00:42:33.980 because uh if you really own your success and you own how good you are then you can be generous

00:42:39.800 with people and you don't have to tell them how great you are and you can be a nice guy

00:42:43.800 you know be a good sport drake should be a good sport because he's the king right i mean he's

00:42:51.380 just killing it so he can be a good sport with all those young cats out there you know he uh

00:42:56.320 At Tyler Creator's Music Festival

00:42:58.420 Oh that was crazy

00:42:59.320 Can't flog no

00:42:59.940 Yeah he got booed

00:43:00.880 He got booed off stage

00:43:02.360 Because everyone was expecting

00:43:03.500 Frank Ocean to perform

00:43:04.580 Did y'all see how he handled that?

00:43:06.180 Amazing

00:43:06.540 Did you see how he handled that?

00:43:07.960 I didn't

00:43:08.420 What happened?

00:43:08.940 It was incredible

00:43:10.260 I forget what he said

00:43:11.220 Let me

00:43:11.440 He said

00:43:11.880 He said

00:43:12.700 You know as long as you want me to keep going

00:43:14.460 I'll keep going

00:43:15.140 I'll go all night if you want

00:43:16.200 And you know

00:43:16.760 You know you guys let me know

00:43:18.600 And there was a couple people in the audience

00:43:19.860 That booed

00:43:20.260 He said thank you so much for having me

00:43:21.680 My name's Drake

00:43:22.540 My name's Drake

00:43:23.120 Yeah

00:43:23.340 Walked off the stage

00:43:23.940 Like not

00:43:24.320 He wasn't mean about it

00:43:25.520 Like 0.93

00:43:25.720 That one really fucked me up

00:43:28.460 Because I just imagined 0.90

00:43:29.180 Wait how many people booed

00:43:31.280 It wasn't a lot

00:43:32.460 It wasn't the majority

00:43:35.160 It was just a pocket of people

00:43:37.340 That was a weird situation

00:43:40.260 Flognaw is not a Drake scene

00:43:42.100 It's just not 0.99

00:43:42.940 He shouldn't have fucking been there 0.97

00:43:44.320 I think that was a weird situation with Tyler 0.98

00:43:46.380 Tyler tweeted

00:43:48.000 The next day you can probably pull up the tweet 0.98

00:43:50.560 We can't show it because the TV is fucked up 0.83

00:43:52.140 Tyler tweeted and said 0.99

00:43:53.700 like you know how fucking how fucked up are you guys like to i bring drake one of the i thought 0.99

00:43:59.180 i would bring one of the biggest entertainers in the world to flognaw and you guys you know 0.99

00:44:03.340 treated him horribly and it was it was a messy situation it's really tough i met drake how's

00:44:09.400 that he was great i met him at a maxim party nice really he was such a gentleman and he you know

00:44:17.020 like the whole wolf of wall street he was like yeah you know he wanted to know about it and

00:44:20.780 he was awesome is it is it possible do you think it's possible um to make it to the top

00:44:27.440 without an ego maybe not maybe not possible top of one industry so here's the thing while he was

00:44:35.220 talking i was thinking about you know so ego there's the good bits about ego right ego makes

00:44:40.380 us you know want to be the best ego makes us work hard uh you know showing up you know staying

00:44:47.420 strong confident physically mentally and spiritually right that's all the good stuff 0.99

00:44:53.220 about ego but where it gets bad is you start treating people like shit and and uh you know 0.99

00:45:00.340 doing things that you shouldn't be doing um you know just being self-centered all the time and 0.98

00:45:07.100 not thinking about other people so there's like two sides to that and it's easy to go over to

00:45:12.040 that other side you know you have to and like and also with drake let's just say

00:45:17.660 both of us or all of us you know people are nice to you all the time and you get your way and you

00:45:24.660 have to learn that sometimes it's not really real right it's just you know like listen it's happened

00:45:32.200 to me i've been out like let's say out with friends someplace and and uh nobody's paying

00:45:38.580 any attention to me you know and then all of a sudden they hear who i am and they're like all 0.94

00:45:42.440 up my ass so you have to be able to know you know that's maybe a gift that when you know 0.94

00:45:50.880 you know what is real and what is not real and even if you know it's not real you can be generous 0.99

00:45:57.220 about it right even if you know that someone is just doing it because whatever right but you can

00:46:02.900 be generous about that and say okay i understand the way it is the way the universe is this is the

00:46:08.840 way it is yeah so you know i'm lucky you know and so i can be nice about it that's huge i love and

00:46:15.580 i love watching uh one of my favorite things too is to see big celebs that don't have that like or

00:46:21.140 not big celebs but big like you know titans of industry or whatever that don't have that initial

00:46:25.220 like uh they don't have that desire to tell people who they are and so steve madden will sit at a

00:46:30.360 fucking dinner for an hour you know with people talking about how they're planning to make three 0.91

00:46:33.920 four hundred thousand dollars the next year he's sitting there making you know whatever amount of 0.99

00:46:37.260 money and then just doesn't say anything about i love that humility and anytime you see that that's

00:46:42.380 another super refreshing thing absolutely is it when do you step in and if you see someone with

00:46:48.340 a really big ego and they're hurting a bunch of people when do you step in you know well you know

00:46:53.520 now i try to avoid people like that you just you run from them yes and kind of don't kick it with

00:47:00.040 them yeah yeah there's their lifespans are short anyways yeah you know what i'm saying especially

00:47:05.180 the real especially the really bad ones i think i think another thing that ego is important for

00:47:09.200 too at least somewhat is uh is in a leader you know what i'm saying yeah because because especially

00:47:14.180 in business like celebrity is a little bit different because a lot of those times they

00:47:17.300 don't have to lead a a group of people but i think ego like you said slightly ties in a little bit

00:47:24.260 with confidence and the ability to tell kind of tell someone else what to do yeah it's such a

00:47:29.700 weird but then it's really got to walk that line though i think my mentor bob proctor always he

00:47:35.560 put it in the i think he called it the empathy ego balance and it's exactly what you were

00:47:40.780 describing like you got to have empathy and that's like that's something that i feel like we always

00:47:44.880 challenge ourselves here on this camp yeah there was a guy i'll tell you a story i had a long time

00:47:49.520 ago i had a buddy and he was in the he was a stand-up comic he was so fucking funny this guy

00:47:57.200 His name was Rick Shapiro, and he works. 0.85

00:48:00.480 He's around L.A. or some shit. 0.95

00:48:02.840 So I thought he was so funny. 0.97

00:48:04.820 I said, I'm going to manage you.

00:48:06.540 You are so funny, right?

00:48:09.040 So anyway, I don't know where we were.

00:48:12.060 We were driving in my car, and there was a grocery store.

00:48:16.000 We both smoked at the time, and I pulled over.

00:48:19.440 I said, yo, Rick, go get us some Marlboros.

00:48:21.200 Oh, no.

00:48:21.720 Yeah.

00:48:21.920 I didn't say it like, I command you to get us Marlboros.

00:48:25.920 i said yo man let me just pull over because you can't you need somebody to stay in the car

00:48:29.760 so i said yo let's get some you know get a couple packs you know and then that was it he just nobody

00:48:35.920 tells me oh yeah like that was ready i swear it was a big lesson for me you know it was it happened

00:48:42.220 like 30 years ago something like that yeah yeah yeah what'd you do for him you just yeah you should

00:48:48.040 get him on the show i don't know i don't even know where he is but i'm just saying he was funny i've

00:48:51.700 heard of him he's funny he's funny guy but but that was it that was the end of our relationship 0.99

00:48:56.480 nobody tells me yeah i was just like i wasn't so that's the other side of ego he's like the fuck 0.90

00:49:01.660 this guy's making me get his cigarettes from it wasn't like that at all i couldn't i had somebody 0.99

00:49:07.900 had to stay in the car but that's like the other side of that crazy shit that happens a lot of 0.73

00:49:12.580 people in in the arts right steve madden bullies ben shapiro's comedian cousin that's right that's 0.83

00:49:19.780 ben's it's gonna be ben's son i think that's another issue too it's always a balance when

00:49:25.480 you have friendships that mix with business yeah you know i mean me and logan have to walk that

00:49:30.280 line all the time we're you know being being really close friends and you know the business

00:49:34.060 side of things and it's like there's so many little obstacles like something like that that

00:49:38.380 could so easily be misread yes and then you find yourselves trying to you know like dig yourself

00:49:43.820 out of that hole because i'm i mean did you at least try to say like i didn't mean it like that

00:49:48.020 Of course, of course.

00:49:49.340 Those are very difficult waters.

00:49:52.200 Those are very...

00:49:53.380 I don't entertain people like that at all.

00:49:56.680 Like, at all, in the slightest.

00:49:59.260 Yeah.

00:49:59.820 I just simply don't have the time or the mental energy.

00:50:02.500 People that would have that kind of, like...

00:50:04.320 People that would have that kind of mistake.

00:50:06.380 That's probably...

00:50:07.100 It could be me.

00:50:07.560 I would have been happy to get the cigarettes, but I was driving.

00:50:10.940 No, yeah, it's just like, um...

00:50:12.360 I don't care about that.

00:50:13.720 Even some of the guests in this show, bro, you've seen it.

00:50:15.780 like even even honestly the celebrity who i got in the scuffle with last night i like the moment i

00:50:22.980 i feel an inflated ego coming on and like um insults coming from that place rather than like

00:50:33.120 some sort of truth or like reality i'll either snap or just leave and never yeah i have no

00:50:40.100 business involving myself with that it's like uh like it could be ego but at the same time i've

00:50:46.800 had these kind of situations here in in hollywood a little bit too where sometimes it's just also

00:50:51.620 mental inability to understand complex situations i i had this girl um who's who we were on we were

00:51:01.840 getting into an elevator in a 25 million dollar house going up to the top floor and and all this

00:51:06.800 and she had a breakdown.

00:51:09.100 I'm not going to say who it was and she started crying

00:51:11.120 and she said, I feel like you guys

00:51:13.300 don't want me here. We had just invited her to come back

00:51:15.300 and hang out and she said, start crying 1.00

00:51:17.300 and you guys don't want me to be here.

00:51:19.120 I'm a burden on you guys. I said, please

00:51:21.060 stop and then she

00:51:23.040 kept going with it and I go, I'm

00:51:25.160 so sorry. I hate to

00:51:27.180 say it like this but I don't have the patience or

00:51:29.140 time for this situation right now. We invited

00:51:31.340 you back here to hang out with

00:51:33.200 us. You're in a $25 million house in a

00:51:35.220 fucking elevator crying about some problem that you've created out of nothing just like that guy 0.99

00:51:40.740 did and the celebrity did last night and it really tests my patience i think i think a lot of times 0.99

00:51:46.780 like not to put someone's pain or struggles above someone else's but it comes down to like what have

00:51:51.780 you been through in your life because you know a lot of times people just start these crazy stories 0.88

00:51:55.980 out of fucking nothing yeah and you have to learn how to tune out from that stuff you have to learn 0.83

00:52:00.100 you know it's it sucks when it's in your environment but you have to learn how to just 0.99

00:52:03.660 completely shut those types of people out hey uh you got an ad for bluetooth no no i was just

00:52:09.120 gonna ask you guys got anything else you want to go like take a nap what's that what do we got

00:52:12.380 for time we could take a nap soon yeah i'm just feeling slow today i want it i want it's good

00:52:19.920 i wanted to ask you this yeah what's it like in prison what was it like ah the prison you did

00:52:25.960 fed time yeah you did real fed you were i did the feds yeah i did taught a bunch of them yeah

00:52:31.060 yeah good in there yes yeah we taught and you were in florida with coleman coleman yeah wow 0.99

00:52:37.060 my rap sheet eaglin eaglin eaglin now eaglin's a real is the real fuck no no no they're both real 0.99

00:52:43.660 they're all those prisons like they're all no no fat time never got a lot of people in there 0.99

00:52:48.740 they're all real are those are those considered uh tough prisons so there's no easy prison of

00:52:55.540 course now there's a penitentiary you know that's with the plexiglass where you you know you're like

00:53:00.580 they touch each other's hands

00:53:02.680 you know it's like the big love

00:53:04.780 story I love you

00:53:06.480 the phone

00:53:07.660 it's not like that but it's prison

00:53:10.480 you stay they go

00:53:12.800 you stay you know it's bad

00:53:14.920 do you get any special treatment or

00:53:16.460 no none

00:53:18.260 you know for a second you know like

00:53:20.740 somebody will call you up and talk about shoes

00:53:22.460 and then once they got that out of the way 1.00

00:53:24.620 they treat you like shit 1.00

00:53:25.660 you know it's unfortunate 1.00

00:53:27.780 how'd you

00:53:28.680 yeah how'd you keep going like were there times i mean or was it not tough on you no no no it was

00:53:34.800 very tough it was very tough and uh you just gotta accept accept what's happening and you know like

00:53:42.820 you know like we say get in the car and go you know that's it let's ride that's it i mean you 0.88

00:53:49.500 did a you did a fucking stint dude like that 41 months is 30 months 30 30 months you did what's 0.96

00:53:55.160 that 70 75 percent well you know with whatever a few things off but 30 months yeah it's a long 0.99

00:54:00.720 long time and then i time i read you were released in three christmases that was did you have kids

00:54:06.840 yet by the way no did you meet your the mother of your children after prison no but she worked for

00:54:12.640 me is that legal i met wendy uh she was a friend some company just get fired for yeah no no but 0.91

00:54:20.220 it was it just depends on the yeah it depends on like how it happens and shit like that it was

00:54:24.240 different yeah also different we were great we would she was one of my first employees she was

00:54:28.760 great and we got very close and we and then in prison we you know we did not consummate the

00:54:37.940 relationship you two guys uh but we you know got together and and it was great yeah ted bundy was 0.98

00:54:47.120 fucking in prison yeah ted bundy not al bundy big difference it's terrible prison is a terrible

00:54:55.680 thing i read you were released in 2005 yeah and then the company very quickly rebounded increasing 0.99

00:55:02.380 revenue by nearly 100 million in 2006 to 475.1 million yeah so you got out we exploded when i

00:55:08.440 came out had a lot of energy it was all those push-ups and dips was it i mean i mean you see

00:55:14.460 that kind of stuff happen with optics the fact that you know oh the ceo's back you know the guy

00:55:19.100 that that started it all yeah was it was it jobs yeah you know what i'm saying was it a design was

00:55:23.400 it did you come back and do something right or was it an optics thing what gave you the initial

00:55:26.900 blast so i had a great team in place they were rocking and they were kind of holding their own

00:55:32.800 and i got back i had a lot of energy and you know we just took off so it was because of that team

00:55:38.120 if i couldn't have done it without them do you see a bump in sales from wolf when the movie you

00:55:43.760 You know, we got a little, I think in men's.

00:55:47.020 Really?

00:55:47.380 I think there was a big men's hit.

00:55:48.840 You know, like young men, like, oh, you know,

00:55:50.440 like all of a sudden it became cool, you know.

00:55:52.900 And Jordan was a hero to a lot of people.

00:55:55.300 It was the opposite of what we thought, right? 0.52

00:55:57.380 But, you know, it was a bump in men's.

00:56:00.840 And I can't think of the word they used to describe fame. 0.58

00:56:05.620 It's like your Q rating. 0.99

00:56:06.920 I can't remember what the fuck it is, 0.99

00:56:08.220 but your Q rating went out. 0.99

00:56:11.660 Your clout.

00:56:12.280 Yeah.

00:56:12.440 Steve Madden.

00:56:13.560 Steve.

00:56:14.600 I think we should end like that.

00:56:16.180 Let's do it.

00:56:17.220 Steve.

00:56:18.060 Steve.

00:56:19.460 Steve Madden.

00:56:20.240 Should have taken Quaaludes and said Steve Madden.

00:56:23.800 It was good to be here.

00:56:25.000 Yeah, bro.

00:56:25.480 Thanks for coming on.

00:56:26.080 Yeah, it was good.

00:56:26.520 You know, it was like a little bit of a therapy session.

00:56:29.320 Yeah.

00:56:29.680 It was cool.

00:56:30.760 And you guys are much deeper than I thought.

00:56:32.820 It's like, good.

00:56:33.520 You got a lot of good stuff happening here.

00:56:35.800 Thanks, man.

00:56:36.180 Yeah, we try to be versatile.

00:56:37.700 Yeah, you are.

00:56:38.160 I think hands down we're probably the most versatile podcast.

00:56:41.420 with the range of our guests

00:56:43.220 and what we can talk about.

00:56:44.280 That's why it's called Impulsive.

00:56:45.220 It also depends on when you get us, too. 0.99

00:56:47.100 You got us on a fucking stream. 0.99

00:56:48.920 Sunday night, you guys are calm. 1.00

00:56:51.440 Not crazed.

00:56:52.420 It's good.

00:56:53.140 This is the most calm you'll ever see.

00:56:54.580 You can ask him. 0.98

00:56:56.540 After the show, he usually beats the shit out of me 1.00

00:56:58.520 for fucking talking a little bit. 0.99

00:57:01.380 Cool, man. 0.99

00:57:02.240 Do you have any social medias?

00:57:03.660 Do you want them to follow you on?

00:57:05.280 No, we're on all the social medias.

00:57:07.000 There we go.

00:57:07.520 We're on them all.

00:57:08.480 Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Madden.

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