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00:12:40.820I believe that the majority of police officers in this country are doing incredibly, very hard job that I don't even have a right to judge them on when it comes to slight miscalculations or miscarriages of justice.
00:12:56.200This was not a slight miscarriage of justice.
00:12:59.680And this is also not the first time this has happened.
00:13:06.180This is not the first time this has happened.
00:13:07.900And this is one of many, many, many, many, many cases of unarmed black men being killed by white cop while not resisting arrest.
00:13:18.920Once again, context aside, the context in this one, as we know, is this man had been alleged to have forged checks for forgery.
00:13:29.500Yeah. OK. If he's swinging his arms, he's pissed off.
00:13:34.520i didn't forge those checks get the fucking guy in handcuffs you got five cops put him in the car0.98
00:13:42.920and bring him to the police station until his trial you are not the judge you are not the jury0.99
00:13:49.980you are not the kill the executioner you're not the job you signed up for and the job that i
00:13:55.300appreciate the men and women who do that job every single day is to protect public safety
00:14:01.600and to stop threats when that man is face down on the concrete handcuffed he is no longer a threat
00:14:10.380to anyone to anyone get it you have five cops there get him into the car another problem here
00:14:17.240is uh the guy talks one of the guys behind the scenes in the camera talks about how this is not
00:14:21.260a proper detaining mechanism to subdue a person yeah you should never put your knee on someone's
00:14:26.920neck it's all over the comments on articles across the web i'm i'm i'm i'm confused with um the
00:14:33.860accountability here that well that's the biggest question well because like even even even his
00:14:38.360partner like why how is he just standing why why are why are cops not holding cops accountable why0.96
00:14:44.100is there why is there no extreme retribution for for shit like this and and yeah we did talk about0.97
00:14:50.240this and um we asked around and apparently if cops go against cops they're deemed a rat it's0.99
00:14:59.000called the blue line it's a really popular discussion point we talked about it this
00:15:03.160morning at you know at length with experts in this space with people who consult in this space
00:15:08.840once again i wanted to find out what people thought this one there's no cops on this guy's
00:15:15.880There's no cop saying that this was right or that it could even be argued to have been right.
00:15:23.480This is this was simply put a murder and I'm not going to keep sticking into it.
00:15:29.040You just brought up the biggest point of all, which is what?
00:15:49.560It wasn't just a riot that immediately erupted.
00:15:52.360It was people who were actively social distancing and peacefully protesting as well as they could, enraged, rightfully so, but walking the streets to shake up the world and bring attention to this horrible, horrible incident.
00:16:06.240and then uh you know the other side of this was that uh activists in where was it virginia with
00:16:15.440white protesters with guns all over the place yeah um and the peaceful protests here were
00:16:21.920turned into riots by police engagement i don't want to and i don't want to be the to say who
00:16:27.040threw the first rock like i don't i don't know what happened sure the difference with this is
00:16:31.020this is on video so we can speak directly to it and once again obviously the context may be missing
00:16:35.440regardless it's just a like like watching this video created such a visceral and and
00:16:45.560disgusting reaction in me it disgusts me to imagine myself as that man whether he was i've
00:16:56.480been in drug-fueled rampages before out of my mind not listening to the orders of people
00:17:01.660you want to know what didn't happen to me i wasn't face down on the ground handcuffed with a man's
00:17:09.620full body pressure pressing into my neck so that i couldn't breathe screaming mom please help me mom
00:17:17.460watching people around me unable to get me assistance as i felt my life
00:17:22.680slip away from me that's the feeling that people who watch this story can't get0.99
00:17:32.260i feel it in me being unable to get help as you watch a fucking cop who's responsible for your1.00
00:17:42.340safety kill you it fucking disgusts me dude and i don't know what the solution is i don't know0.99
00:17:53.500what the solution is but my my hope as a human being on this planet is that there is one i think0.99
00:17:59.820what we'll see is that these cops i i my guess would be that they're made an example of they're
00:18:04.820definitely being uh attacked in the media by every single person attacked in the social media i
00:18:11.640I haven't seen the news on how the worldwide media is handling it.
00:18:17.040But this is a specific case of martyrdom.
00:18:20.840How many more lives do we have to lose before something changes?
00:18:24.520We've seen that racism is running rampant in the country,
00:19:43.720All I'm saying is if you are unable to show the most simple level of compassion to another human being, if you are unable to not treat a human like a fucking animal as they beg you for their life, those people should not be police officers.0.98
00:20:05.440Now this is on us, the public, this is on people with platforms, this is on police commissioners, mayors, and all the way up to the fucking president to get this done, to say this is not acceptable anymore.0.97
00:27:35.060I think you made the right decision there.
00:27:36.700We're also going to layer in, I don't know who this we is that I'm talking about.
00:27:39.560We also decided that you probably shouldn't drink alcohol anymore because it's not good for you.0.84
00:27:43.200And also, we're going to toss you into a relationship because we don't want you having all of that promiscuous sexual intercourse anymore either.0.98
00:28:01.200No, you leave me my fucking hot dogs, my mozzarella sticks, my chicken parm, the little glaze sauce that you dipped the garlic knots or whatever the fuck from Pizza Hut.1.00
00:45:29.640One thing I won't take is an upset, angry girlfriend who's pissed off that I'm 35 and my roommate is following me on the adventures play.0.99
01:03:13.320Well, I wonder if we'll ever reach a point where instead of like getting opinions fed to us through our like I saw that the CNN app just sent out an opinion, essentially, that I think they try to pass it off as a fact in the news.
01:05:03.320But it's the gray, like the neutral reporting of the news isn't exciting.
01:05:07.260And all we have time for anymore is exciting things that pique our interest and then grab our attention for 15 seconds.
01:05:13.600And then we move on to the next thing, which is which is in closing on the topic, which is why I brought the topic up today and why it was so important that we hit it.
01:05:23.160As I watch the topic tumble on Twitter, down to five, down to seven, down to 12, and it's space.