Impaulsive with Logan Paul - June 04, 2020


E190 This Is America?! - IMPAULSIVE EP. 190

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E189 America Is Racist - IMPAULSIVE EP. 189 E191 LOGAN PAUL IS A BAD DATE - IMPAULSIVE EP. 191

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00:02:12.300 These are solutions that there's no—this is not backing Trump.
00:02:16.400 This is not backing Obama.
00:02:17.740 It's just a real solution to the problem, which is exactly what we f***ing need right now.
00:02:22.900 Yeah!
00:02:29.140 It ain't good.
00:02:30.340 I trust you, Danny.
00:02:31.760 It ain't good.
00:02:33.940 What?
00:02:36.160 There are these like little pockets of flatulence that are escaping my sphincter.
00:02:43.200 And it's one of the most horrifying aromas that have ever hit my nose.
00:02:50.160 And I just did one.
00:02:52.420 And I fear that it's headed your way.
00:02:59.140 There's no way we can start the show like this.
00:03:03.480 I'll do it, though, if I have to.
00:03:05.920 It's a heated week, you know?
00:03:07.940 And if my friends want to abandon me during the most important,
00:03:11.400 pivotal times in podcast programming history, that's right.
00:03:15.520 Get back here.
00:03:16.340 I got you. 1.00
00:03:17.040 Suck it up through the nose. 1.00
00:03:18.540 I got you through flatulence and Eugene Goo. 1.00
00:03:21.200 Don't you worry about it.
00:03:22.320 We'll get to that in a second.
00:03:24.820 Should we get a better opening than that?
00:03:27.160 I know it was good.
00:03:29.140 I know it's like technically it's good for normal impulsive episode, but like we're on such a good wave of momentum, like positivity, like actual impactful change in the world.
00:03:38.240 And we just opened the next episode of our podcast.
00:03:40.200 We're talking about farts.
00:03:41.000 I think, listen, I can, I can, I can get you there.
00:03:43.500 I'll tell you how I'm here.
00:03:44.940 No, I think you're good.
00:03:45.880 I'll tell you why, dude, the stress of this week is annihilating me rectally.
00:03:51.260 I I'll be, I'll be, I'll be right on the same page as you.
00:03:54.260 I cannot stop pooping. 0.93
00:03:56.380 and i think a lot of other people can relate to that this is a shitty week it's a shitty week 0.69
00:04:02.240 it is welcome back to impulsive the number one podcast in the world trying to give you guys some
00:04:06.740 some inspiration motivation light words that you may be able to latch on to in these dark dark
00:04:14.760 precarious tumultuous times that is america this is america i'm ashamed to say this is america this
00:04:22.780 is this is the current state of america and like you know this you know me i'm not we are not
00:04:30.340 a politically based a political based podcast but this is this is beyond politics this is 0.96
00:04:37.720 humanity and so that's why we we've been harping on a lot of this shit and it's so funny because 0.81
00:04:43.020 i'm gonna say something with a little bit of weight to it go for it you did it last episode 0.54
00:04:48.340 by the way bravo the react the reaction to that has been has been super powerful so what do you
00:04:52.580 What do you got for us today, Mike Sherrill?
00:04:54.140 I want to dive into that.
00:04:55.760 We went to the protests.
00:04:57.060 I want to talk about that.
00:04:58.000 I want to talk about my experience there, our experience there. 0.99
00:05:01.100 But I have made dumb videos my whole life, my whole life.
00:05:08.100 And yet somehow directing my energy towards this cause and this movement for the past week has made me feel more significant than ever. 0.94
00:05:17.820 for the first time in my life
00:05:20.700 I feel like the content that I'm putting out
00:05:23.160 is actually important
00:05:24.540 do y'all hear what I'm saying
00:05:26.660 that's great
00:05:27.820 this is a revelation for me
00:05:30.380 bro for 15 years now
00:05:33.740 I have been making videos
00:05:35.700 purely based on entertainment
00:05:39.620 and although I'm positive
00:05:41.360 with the Maverick movement
00:05:43.500 with my journey
00:05:45.620 I've inspired people
00:05:46.800 but this is on a whole nother level that the the things we're saying and doing now at this
00:05:53.780 particular window in time because of what's happening because of the the george floyd
00:05:58.620 injustice and and all we're doing is attempting to be an ally and amplify the voices of of the
00:06:04.480 oppressed bro i actually feel like this stuff we're doing is important and i think i can't
00:06:11.180 believe i've never felt this before you feel like you're adding value as opposed to just distraction
00:06:14.840 for the first time nice i want to i want to stop you before somebody says that i think a lot of
00:06:20.880 people are scared to talk about their personal feelings because they fear that people say they
00:06:24.060 made it into a me story i enjoy you talking about this because i think it'll empower other creators
00:06:29.420 to feel the same way i think it's i think it's important to mention that it makes you feel good
00:06:34.800 i i've always been one to stand up for people's uh justification and why they do things regardless
00:06:42.440 of what it is i i have never cared that much about okay certain circumstances picking your
00:06:48.240 rioting outfit for instagram no taking pictures with a drill in front of a board and then walking
00:06:53.500 away without actually fixing anything no but if but if if self-gratification and making yourself
00:06:59.820 feel good is a is the end result of you doing good for the world then by all means go for it 0.88
00:07:06.920 homie go go socially jerk yourself off i'm here for it and i'm not saying that's what you did by 0.93
00:07:13.180 any means but good to give back of course and if that's why you do it then i am cool with that so 0.98
00:07:17.840 i didn't so he's totally right but that obviously wasn't my intent this was like this was something
00:07:22.420 that and again i i said this in the last podcast for the first time i feel like i've i've woken up
00:07:27.720 i've come into uh an inkling of my own as an adult and and you know i said in the last podcast as
00:07:34.500 well it's taken me 25 years to realize like holy shit we have an audience we have a platform we 0.59
00:07:39.100 have people that listen but the amount of white people that texted me based on my my little speech 0.97
00:07:44.240 about white privilege and and the injustice in the last episode is is remarkable i didn't know
00:07:51.940 how many white folks had no idea that this type of thing was taking place or existed
00:07:58.260 like they're saying i i changed their um their perspective on what it means to be a white person
00:08:03.200 And like, you know, we dove into the idea of white privilege a little bit and I got pretty fiery about its existence.
00:08:09.940 Yeah.
00:08:10.420 And it's not to take anything away from the white people who have been or who have had a tough life.
00:08:19.780 All it is is saying that your life has not been made harder by the color of your skin.
00:08:25.900 See, I like what you did there, Eddie.
00:08:27.460 It gives me it gives me an easy lead when we do get to this starting at the bottom bracket of solutions, like at least admit to the small things, which you just would acknowledge that's it and be aware of recognize and I've looked around and notice that I could I could probably command a hefty group of people.
00:08:49.360 Should I direct energy in that way?
00:08:52.500 Recognize now I'm weaponizing.
00:08:54.360 Yeah. 0.98
00:08:54.760 Now I'm attempting to influence, fucking being an influencer, finally having an influence. 0.98
00:09:02.780 I talked with Spencer about this today. 0.99
00:09:04.200 It's just insane.
00:09:04.660 I talked with Spencer about this today.
00:09:05.540 He actually used the same word.
00:09:06.540 It's like weaponize.
00:09:07.940 I don't know if that's the right mentality to have because it's not necessarily a weapon.
00:09:11.520 You remember Arrival when the aliens come and they talk about having like the word that they mess up is weapon and it's supposed to be tool?
00:09:19.740 The scary part is when it's a weapon.
00:09:21.520 It's not a tool.
00:09:21.980 You have a – it's not a weapon.
00:09:23.220 It's a massive tool.
00:09:24.020 Or like a bandage.
00:09:25.860 You're like the triage guy.
00:09:28.840 I understand what you're saying when you say weaponized, but you're really just mobilizing the ability to activate people and say this is where we're going.
00:09:37.000 There's a fork in the road and we're not going down that road anymore.
00:09:39.140 Facts.
00:09:39.540 Nice.
00:09:40.100 Don't pick up any weapons because you're absolutely right.
00:09:42.500 That's not what I'm saying.
00:09:43.260 I'm just saying there's a power in us white folk that now I'm telling you if you're watching this podcast, it's your responsibility to activate on that.
00:09:51.440 Let's dive in a little bit.
00:09:52.420 let's talk about going on Mike what do you got all right so a lot is going on a lot is going on
00:09:57.780 as we can tell the protests have been going on all week and just as we're starting the show today
00:10:02.200 breaking news Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison is increasing charges against Derek Chauvin
00:10:08.180 to second degree murder in George Floyd's case and also charging the other three officers nice
00:10:13.280 massive nice massive victory definitely a huge factor and a huge marching point for the protesters
00:10:20.540 People wanted to see justice served to people that acted as accessory to murder, as well as an upgrade on Derek Chauvin to second degree, which showed intent to kill and disregard for human life.
00:10:31.440 I hope that although it is a outward facing point to upgrade that charge, I hope that the evidence is there to convict, because if we lose the conviction on that murder charge, these riots will seem like just a walk in the park.
00:10:48.820 it'll be one of the biggest problems ever so hopefully they've got what they need for that
00:10:52.620 so that's a so that's a point um and i think now i mean i i listen the past couple days for me i
00:11:01.240 know i know you've you've talked about how you've felt going through this and you were at the
00:11:04.440 protest for myself the past few days have felt uh very impactful watching the protest but also
00:11:12.380 have felt very divisive and toxic in a lot of the dialogue around the protest and what's happening
00:11:17.340 online the dialogue sure but i'll tell you bro going to that protest yesterday yeah yo that
00:11:22.280 affected me that affected me and by the way i was walking after we walked for god knows how many
00:11:28.820 miles you think we walked 16 you tracked it six and a half miles it ain't a lot there are a lot
00:11:32.420 of people walking there more but it's it's not like we took a little stroll in the park right
00:11:35.480 you would not have been able to do it i know straight up that like your ankle would not have
00:11:40.160 permitted i heard david david told me and it's all and it's also been an interesting point to
00:11:44.280 consider as well. The first day we went down to the protests, a group of what's called the more
00:11:51.500 prepared protesters, they had the mass and everything on fully, fully ready for war or what
00:11:56.480 have you came up to us and said, your voices are more useful at home. I'm not saying they're right.
00:12:02.940 It was just something I considered. We command an audience of millions. And so this is just
00:12:08.980 something I've been thinking about. It's a question I've had. Should we be focusing our
00:12:12.480 energy on spreading the positive news that's coming out of this spreading next steps or putting
00:12:17.260 another body on the turf or or both i think we've split the difference that little like a little
00:12:22.560 commercial yeah why not both nice nice nice especially because like i'll sit on this podcast
00:12:27.760 and i'll say things ain't nothing like leading by example yeah nothing like leading by example
00:12:32.680 yeah and and you know if if we are any influencer like i again i urge all influencers and celebrities
00:12:39.780 to get out there and protest.
00:12:42.260 That's the one thing I noticed.
00:12:44.140 Yesterday was not about me, not even in the slightest.
00:12:47.240 Yesterday was about the collective and the movement.
00:12:50.440 And I believe any celebrity influence or whatever can show up
00:12:54.460 and not have to worry about being mobbed because this isn't about you.
00:12:59.300 It's about your body.
00:13:00.480 How are you guys feeling about the celebrity and influencer space
00:13:03.460 and their reaction to what's going on?
00:13:05.340 Good and bad.
00:13:06.520 Yeah.
00:13:06.900 Good and bad.
00:13:07.480 It's, it's, um, we talked about this a little bit in the last episode.
00:13:10.980 Like, just, we've seen some great stuff.
00:13:12.980 We've seen some people activate really, really responsibly and do a great job of it.
00:13:17.220 Yeah.
00:13:17.640 But we've also seen, uh, some influencers decide to skip it.
00:13:22.280 I can't, I, once again, I can't imagine living in America right now and finding any way to
00:13:27.680 be able to skip this.
00:13:28.840 You can't.
00:13:29.820 Yeah.
00:13:30.220 This just fully consumed my life.
00:13:33.680 My life.
00:13:34.560 It's all I care about.
00:13:35.480 And like I was – some influencers are doing the following, post a link, express a few thoughts that you may have seen somewhere else.
00:13:46.460 I would, again, urge influencers to do a little bit of research, not even research.
00:13:51.620 How about this? 1.00
00:13:52.700 Digest some black programming. 0.99
00:13:55.840 Investigate.
00:13:56.340 Okay?
00:13:56.560 This is where I started.
00:13:58.000 Real easy steps.
00:13:58.960 If you want to be influenced first, I think for people, if you make them feel something, you win.
00:14:08.140 Oh, yeah.
00:14:08.520 So among my research in the past week, I watched two pieces of programming that I'm going to highly recommend.
00:14:15.620 One is called The 13th.
00:14:16.920 It's on Netflix.
00:14:19.360 It's a documentary about systemic racism in America.
00:14:23.780 It's awesome.
00:14:24.780 13th Amendment.
00:14:25.520 That's what we talked about in the last podcast.
00:14:26.700 other one i finished watching it last night when they see us yeah i i cannot believe crazy story
00:14:36.160 yeah that is an understatement i cannot believe the horrors the injustices that have taken place
00:14:42.820 in this country and i know i'm i'm i'm being dramatic right now and i sound dramatic no no
00:14:48.820 yo if you know anything about this story and especially if you've you've seen um the four
00:14:54.280 part series on netflix and shout out to ava duvernay the the female uh african-american
00:14:59.540 director who this series who you could tell this woman has invested her all into making this the 1.00
00:15:05.180 best piece of programming that is going to uh uh implement change and yo girl it fucking worked 0.62
00:15:11.580 like kudos to you congratulations um to all the actors everyone on on on that project you guys 0.91
00:15:19.460 absolutely murdered it you have no idea the amount of positive change that is happening because of
00:15:26.000 that and like programming entertainment um media can be so powerful when when weaponized correctly
00:15:33.140 like watching those two programs weaponized correctly yes no weaponized like it's it is a
00:15:39.340 weapon it might not be a weapon of mass destruction but it's a weapon i think you just got to watch
00:15:44.500 connotation of the word weapon that's all i'm saying here no no no no the listener has to watch
00:15:48.300 connotation of the word weapon i don't like don't i'm not talking about guns i know i get that i get
00:15:52.900 that but it is i just think there's a difference i i also and i i agree with matt i agree with you
00:15:57.860 on watching the connotation i do but i also so let's yesterday i made a point that i wanted to
00:16:04.380 start focusing on solutions i think we have spent the past week talking about problems talking about
00:16:11.800 issues that are wrong in this country with police with racism and i and i think i woke up this
00:16:17.120 morning feeling a little bit lighter and a little bit more focused on how to start fixing the issues
00:16:21.980 right and well i feel that way there there's an issue that that we've learned through this process
00:16:31.120 more than probably any other process there are unfortunately slash fortunately will always be
00:16:37.260 people out there who do not feel the same way as you absolutely and that is the biggest thing that
00:16:42.600 we're up against right now we have had protests and marches against racism in this country for
00:16:48.560 the past week that have done a great deal to raise awareness unfortunately there is a massive
00:16:54.360 part of this country who does not believe still that racism exists at all at all and so when you
00:17:02.060 start to work on problems that racism is embedded in they are closed off okay i love what you're
00:17:07.980 saying yeah i want to put a benchmark in this because again like how do we enact change okay
00:17:11.460 action steps i would i would assume most people who listen to this podcast or even who have made
00:17:16.920 it this far in this podcast are not the target group of people you're talking about so it's up
00:17:22.300 to our people to spread the word in the good fight to like i said hold hold people accountable
00:17:27.040 right right i'm sorry no no that's that's good that's good there's an even bigger part of the
00:17:33.460 nation however that will say racism exists but they don't believe that it has a large enough
00:17:39.140 effect on the black people or the Asian people or Hispanic people to actually do something about it
00:17:43.520 and so what I've been trying to do for the past couple days is propose solutions where we could 0.99
00:17:49.780 bring these people all the way down to the bottom how far are you willing to go what are you willing
00:17:55.220 to admit can we all agree at the very least that there is an issue within the police community
00:18:01.160 that results in aggressive use of force on U.S. citizens and that there is a way to do better
00:18:06.600 I think you'd be delusional not to delusional. And so I'll, I'll cite an example. Um, in Louisville
00:18:12.900 just this past week, police killed David McAtee after a shootout with him during the riots in the
00:18:16.740 city. Uh, here's, here's a quote from, from some news people surveillance footage appeared
00:18:22.380 surveillance footage appeared to show McAtee fire at police first as officers use pepper balls to
00:18:27.580 clear crowd in the neighboring parking lot. According to video release Tuesday.
00:18:31.920 Okay. So maybe it was justified. I don't know the exact facts on this or what the evidence shows.
00:18:36.600 OK, Louisville Metro Police Chief Steve Conrad, because it's irrelevant to this next point, Louisville or Louisville Metro Police Chief Steve Conrad was fired after officials discovered that two of his officers involved in McAtee's shooting had not activated their body cameras.
00:18:53.780 And the mayor went on to say this type of institutional failure will not be tolerated.
00:18:59.060 That's a solution.
00:19:00.380 That is a solution to the problem that we are talking about right now.
00:19:04.980 cops are where this is an ongoing and reoccurring trend now i'm once again irrelevant to the fact
00:19:11.440 of or or evidence that shows whether the shooting was justified or not
00:19:15.440 police wear body body cameras to protect the innocent and themselves so if an innocent person
00:19:24.620 is shot they have a claim to to claim police misconduct the police then have a way to prove
00:19:30.340 that they were innocent if something happens that was justified. Create laws and rules that
00:19:38.300 require police body cameras to be on and penalties for when they are turned off. That is a solution
00:19:44.100 that everyone can get in bed with immediately. I agree. But how do we enact that, Michael?
00:19:51.700 I have to imagine that body cameras are like right now, they're supposed to be on when things
00:19:57.560 are happening and they're not and they're not what's i mean is there do you say penalty i don't
00:20:01.580 know i don't know that's so that so that doesn't exist and and how and how does it get solved is
00:20:05.940 is reform at the state and local level i mean how let's let's go step by step voting okay right
00:20:10.860 voting voting for responsible parties to to enact change that you want to see
00:20:15.900 voting for state and local officials that state and local officials that share the same values
00:20:21.700 that the people do okay so yeah you keep going down a step but all i'm really trying to do right
00:20:25.960 now is get the pundits and the people on the left and right to come together to agree on common
00:20:31.840 issues. That's it. No matter how low on the totem pole they are. Mike, you sound like a
00:20:38.520 presidential candidate. Listen, I'm not the only one who thinks this. I've seen tweets, Mike.
00:20:43.620 Look at this. John Postons. Look at this. This guy said, he said, is it appropriate to give
00:20:50.060 Logan Paul and Mike Malak for being the most articulate, reasonable presence in mainstream
00:20:54.560 media with the most recent impulsive shows lots of great great points were made it's gonna be you
00:20:58.880 mike it's gonna be us it's gonna be us that's it but listen that's i'll be honest it is it is 0.96
00:21:05.280 fucking ridiculous and why and here's the here's the problem because people don't want to people 0.98
00:21:10.680 don't want to talk about this shit they want the fiery talking points they want me flipping out on 1.00
00:21:16.220 trump they want to clip that look at him flipping out on trump this guy's crazy clip it posted 0.99
00:21:22.100 it everywhere that's what they want solutions bore people but this is what's gonna fix the problem
00:21:28.020 i made i made it i made a tweet last night that the required hours to become a barber
00:21:34.040 shout out to all the good barbers out there by the way thank you never underestimate
00:21:39.340 power of a good fade our shout out ron thanks bro are more than the required hours to become
00:21:44.600 a police officer barbers are required to take 1500 hours of training which takes approximately
00:21:49.920 10 months police officers are at the academy for academy for roughly six months now i did get some
00:21:56.380 pushback on that since the academy is more rigorous and there's a six-month probation
00:21:59.620 period thereafter okay so fine maybe the comparison isn't perfect also also who who's gonna like when
00:22:05.440 you walk in to apply for a barbership job and you're like how many hours you got he's like well
00:22:09.260 for 1480 no you need to be no you need to be licensed you need to be licensed yes you need
00:22:16.380 to be licensed to get a job in a barbershop absolutely because of sweeney sweeney i don't
00:22:20.520 know i don't know but listen you're just killing people with razors edward scissorhands okay listen
00:22:26.420 so maybe the comparison is not perfect so let's go down to the next level again
00:22:31.420 meet me somewhere my people meet me somewhere other countries require officers to train for
00:22:38.600 years to become an officer years most of those officers aren't even armed and i'm not saying
00:22:44.780 that our officers shouldn't be armed but what i'm saying is if we're going to arm them let's
00:22:48.860 require a little bit more time using their service weapons and learning how to de-escalate
00:22:52.880 situations properly and not fire on innocent victims and as a result of the training those
00:22:59.100 countries see a far lower rate of police related malpractice can we all ben shapiro sean king
00:23:07.400 both of you guys meet me right here can we all agree that something can be done to make police
00:23:15.240 police officers more ready for the extreme stressors of their daily job that would help
00:23:20.340 these are solutions that there's no this is not backing trump this is not backing obama it's just 0.80
00:23:26.880 a real solution to the problem which is exactly what we fucking need right now i started this 0.51
00:23:33.000 conversation with she told me a horrifying account of living in chicago and being taken 0.81
00:23:42.000 to a place called homan square i looked up homan square on google and found a article that was
00:23:49.100 titled homan square revealed how chicago police disappeared 7 000 people and read on about about
00:23:59.180 an off the books interrogation warehouse she had told me about this in the past and off the books
00:24:04.780 police black site similar to cia black sites you're brought there you get no phone calls you
00:24:10.840 aren't allowed to talk to your attorney you aren't allowed to talk to anyone for the time you spend
00:24:15.020 at home and square in chicago i think it was shut down in 2015 you know this was back to rahm
00:24:19.700 emmanuel era you are disappeared you out you do not exist six thousand of the seven thousand people
00:24:26.040 brought to home and square were black that to me seems like an issue that we should solve and this 0.97
00:24:33.160 one was solved but something tells me that there's probably more like these so what all i'm saying is 0.98
00:24:37.680 forget the divisive speech i have that i am guilty of myself at times and i will be i will say that
00:24:43.000 right now i love police officers all the good cops out there that fight every day to make the
00:24:46.980 streets safer i know i've been very divisive on certain topics and i apologize if you felt
00:24:51.980 like that undermine your cause or to peaceful protesters or even to trump at times who has
00:24:57.260 done good things but can we but maybe the last one a little bit less but can we can we at least
00:25:03.860 come to agreement that we can start solving the issues using actual reform sure that's it i would
00:25:08.180 like to walk this back a little bit um because that's mostly about police stuff and those are
00:25:12.580 definitely proposed solutions the solution is when there's actually a thing written down and given to
00:25:16.980 someone who is in power right now in order to make that happen so those are proposed solutions
00:25:21.420 are not exactly solutions, but we can continue to propose solutions and get the conversation
00:25:26.020 going and just ball rolling on that kind of stuff.
00:25:29.540 I had a really good conversation with my friend from Cleveland today.
00:25:32.440 He moved out to Philly.
00:25:33.700 It goes by the name Toussaint.
00:25:35.220 He's an artist, one of the most brilliant minds I've seen.
00:25:39.540 He's a conscious person, really focused on community activism.
00:25:43.920 He doesn't want to be called an activist.
00:25:45.000 He's not, but he really believes in organizations and getting together with people in order
00:25:48.440 to have an amplified voice, you know, with civil discourse and having a genuine conversation
00:25:56.200 about the things that are happening right now.
00:25:58.740 And some of the things, I mean, maybe more people-related things as opposed to just police
00:26:02.760 and military reform, which we know is very difficult to happen.
00:26:07.520 But like I said, one of the things he really preaches is, and I'm going to do my best to
00:26:11.620 reflect his views here.
00:26:14.920 Okay, yeah.
00:26:15.640 But one of the big things was –
00:26:18.200 I think you missed some context.
00:26:19.640 He is black, correct? 0.84
00:26:21.140 Absolutely. 0.98
00:26:21.540 Okay.
00:26:22.860 And he's – I'm telling you, man, this guy thinks powerfully, and he's able to use his words.
00:26:29.520 He's a poet, and he's a musician, and he's able to use his words in order to spread a message that is just kind of his historical or historian view of what's happening, documentarian view of what's happening.
00:26:41.000 um and as far as far as proposed solutions i mean there's these aren't necessarily necessarily
00:26:48.560 solutions but they're things that why don't you just say them i'm going to the uh one of the
00:26:52.700 things that we're seeing right now is uh talked about instagram earlier was uh the black boxes
00:26:56.240 and uh people just posting things and posting things and posting things i got something to 0.93
00:27:00.360 say about that oh i got something to say about we call a lot of shit for cutting him off i'm so 0.74
00:27:05.040 hesitant on the last one so hesitant to not let him finish his first point i don't i don't care 0.80
00:27:09.840 that's a massive massive oh i want to talk about it yeah yeah okay are we good we're good to go
00:27:14.920 bring this up to talk about it with you guys okay on the show that we talk to each other yes sir
00:27:18.180 look i get it uh it's a movement to show a collective of people embracing a silence and
00:27:26.160 a blackout um i posted it then i actually got a little mad at myself for posting it because i
00:27:32.680 realized my intent was just everyone else is doing it i might as well do it and i was beating myself
00:27:39.240 up over it because the next day
00:27:40.940 because I jumped on the bandwagon and I
00:27:43.180 literally hate that I did that because like everything
00:27:45.260 I stand for is not that but
00:27:47.140 I did it just like everyone else
00:27:49.220 and the next day I'm scrolling through my feed and I can't 0.99
00:27:51.300 see fucking anything. Black boxes. 0.99
00:27:53.280 Black boxes everywhere. See things that would be important
00:27:55.380 and helpful for you to learn. That's the only way
00:27:57.220 I've been learning. I see something on social media
00:27:59.300 it affects me. I go deeper.
00:28:01.080 Now I can't see anything except black boxes and I get it.
00:28:03.520 I totally get it. Again I posted it.
00:28:05.200 You didn't post it. I posted a tweet
00:28:07.220 that said i will not be posting a black box on social media today make your voice your black 0.99
00:28:10.980 box make your dollars your black box most importantly make your vote your blacks box 0.97
00:28:14.360 y'all know where i stand that movement got annihilated beaten down by everybody so and 0.89
00:28:20.660 we talked about this unfortunately the black box pursuit was an example
00:28:26.180 of the sometimes poorly planned mobilization of this cause
00:28:30.980 planning is everything yeah planning is have everything and unless and unless you are able
00:28:38.920 to organize and properly mobilize you will lose the black square is a massive example of a social
00:28:45.400 trend it's called slacktivism okay to give it go for it so that's that's kind of a virtual virtue
00:28:51.160 signaling thing i want to stand by these people but i don't really know what to do so i'm going to
00:28:55.160 uh you know slacktivism yeah it's a great term it's a great term hey you guys got this yeah i'm
00:29:01.300 with you but you're you know you're standing behind a fence and two barricades and all that
00:29:04.660 so it's it's uh you know recognizing who the real heroes are in this situation it is the people who
00:29:09.180 are getting out and giving back to the communities getting involved uh helping out people who you
00:29:13.920 know don't aren't having their needs met and this this is like what's going on behind the scenes
00:29:18.560 making this change isn't sexy who's writing down the things who's who uh the legislation to make
00:29:23.240 the changes happen, who's handing out meals or who's really getting involved, standing on the
00:29:30.440 front lines. Those are the people that are really making the change. And yes, it's amazing that
00:29:34.940 everyone is really adding their voice to this equation. And no one should be shunned for adding
00:29:40.680 their voice, but you should make sure that what you're doing is really in line with your personal
00:29:46.000 beliefs and doing your best to explain to people maybe not explain but um not just talk about it
00:29:54.020 but to be about it if you really want something to happen you have to go and uh vote boycott
00:29:59.080 absolutely come up with a plan i put i put up a i think boycotting gonna be crazy we gotta talk
00:30:03.200 about it i saw i saw a tweet that uh the owner of pepsico was it pepsico or so one of them had
00:30:11.880 funded Trump's
00:30:13.260 I believe it was Wendy's
00:30:15.420 so it's the owner of the
00:30:17.480 parent company that owns
00:30:20.020 Wendy's Coke I believe is under
00:30:22.020 the same
00:30:22.420 go ahead and do the research I saw all of it
00:30:25.440 I'm slightly reluctant to
00:30:28.540 boycott based solely on
00:30:32.320 you just don't want to boycott fast food
00:30:33.700 I want Wendy's
00:30:34.880 I'm slightly reluctant to boycott certain things
00:30:37.740 based solely on their contributions to a certain person
00:30:40.000 I don't think that automatically means
00:30:41.840 that you are anti a cause taco bell pizza hut wendy's franchisee gives 200k more to trump 0.99
00:30:48.000 re-election and and by the way fine that's fine actually you know what fuck i'll take it i take 0.97
00:30:51.680 it back if you want if you want to boycott that and by the way that happened with bang energy 0.98
00:30:55.360 i believe the bang energy tell you to boycott this because like i want you to stop eating taco
00:31:00.800 that's one but you should be careful because it's franchisee i know that's not the organization
00:31:07.080 That's one particular person who owns a few Wendy's.
00:31:11.580 You should maybe dig into who the owner of those chains are
00:31:16.460 and where they're located, but don't just boycott Wendy's
00:31:19.080 because they are owned by people around the world.
00:31:21.860 I'm telling you to boycott them regardless because it'll be good for your house.
00:31:25.100 Bad for you.
00:31:25.860 I'm fine with that.
00:31:26.900 It's not good for you.
00:31:28.920 There have been a lot of people also asking about the effect
00:31:36.520 of these riots and you brought up the solutions i was labeling before as proposed solutions which
00:31:40.920 they are and that's a very that's a very big point and i did a little bit of digging and after the
00:31:46.940 death of martin luther king there were in 1968 there were riots that lasted months burned over
00:31:53.640 100 cities absolutely killed more than 40 people 15 000 were arrested and i'm not i'm once again
00:31:59.880 this is not my justification of a riot i'm not telling anybody to go out there and burn anything
00:32:03.560 What I will say is that the impact of those riots, the impact of that massive uprising was the revival and the signing of the Civil Rights Act in America.
00:32:15.840 So I don't – well, I do not justify, once again, stealing from mom-and-pop shops, violence in the streets.
00:32:23.260 I actually condemn that.
00:32:25.360 But at the same time, the result of it in 1968 was the signing of one of the most important bills in the history of black America. 0.99
00:32:32.960 And so this is some complex shit. 0.97
00:32:37.660 In my conversation with Stoke or Toussaint, as he goes by, one of the things we talked about was how the narrative so far has been that black people just lie down and aren't aggressive or not aggressive or aggressors or they don't have any reaction to when they're spurned and when they're being attacked, I suppose. 0.99
00:32:58.400 And that's simply not the case because of that exact example that you just gave.
00:33:05.060 And yes, it's not great to riot and steal and loot and all that.
00:33:10.180 But one of the important things is that there is something happening.
00:33:13.860 You can't just have body after body after body being buried for something that we know is wrong and not have a reaction.
00:33:20.940 If you do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.
00:33:23.700 I liken it to this, right?
00:33:25.400 The Lion Keeper can only poke the lion with his stick so many times before the lion snaps back.
00:33:30.840 Perfectly said. 1.00
00:33:31.420 What the fuck do you expect? 0.99
00:33:32.740 Kind of, kind of perfectly said. 1.00
00:33:35.200 But in this circumstance, the Lion Keeper can only shoot and kill the family members of the head lion so many times before the head lion says, 0.96
00:33:44.200 Yo, stop killing my sons. 0.97
00:33:45.960 Stop killing my sisters and brothers. 0.99
00:33:48.480 Poking? 0.93
00:33:49.220 I'd be okay.
00:33:49.880 I'm not even, I'm not okay with poking.
00:33:51.300 but i don't think we'd be seeing a massive uprising if people were getting hit with batons 0.95
00:33:55.580 these people are fucking dying and so it's it's like how many and that's the question i keep 0.97
00:34:00.460 coming back to people people on the on the side of of peace and and and making the protest stop 1.00
00:34:05.360 send me videos of downed police officers and the retired police officer who was shot and killed
00:34:13.080 trying to defend in the uh alluding of televisions god dang get me his name please officer dorn
00:34:18.520 yeah terrible terrible and someone said to me is this what you want is do you want to see
00:34:27.200 this kind of stuff happen no i don't but officer dorn
00:34:31.460 1 000 dead black men at the hands of a of a malpracticing police unit so it's it's people 0.99
00:34:41.240 need to understand that there is a massive issue here and it and and by the way it fucking sucks 0.98
00:34:47.040 it sucks that it had to get to a point where blood had to be spilled to fix the issue so this 0.99
00:34:54.040 the way to sound said it was this is the physical manifestation of trauma inflicted on black people 0.96
00:34:59.620 yeah i think it's very absolutely one thing i kind of want to get into is a more psychological
00:35:05.160 understanding of what's going on um as far as the life in fear and what it means to be constantly
00:35:12.080 living in fear and then looking to evolve out of that great point yeah fear is a survival instinct
00:35:19.320 um is is it uh fear created by government what what type of fear are you talking about um just
00:35:27.160 right now the fear is to uh what is it being black yeah being black okay okay okay yeah being
00:35:34.300 outside while being black is i guess one of the the modes of fear right now um and psychologically
00:35:39.680 theoretically fear breeds stress and when you're stressed yeah you're unable to really focus on
00:35:44.080 the things that are good positive and peaceful generous all those you know things on the other
00:35:49.060 side of the equation um rooted in love and what what things what can we say or what can we talk
00:35:57.380 about that kind of um ameliorates the fear right because right now there's there's no uh
00:36:04.320 actual steps that we have right we're still proposing solutions we're still looking at ways
00:36:09.500 to uh mitigate the fear and reduce the stress levels of all that is not that yeah that is not
00:36:14.900 a that is not going to be an easy one to so no no no no his point is it's everything you're
00:36:21.320 1000 right it's everything on both sides and i'll give you an example from another 0.69
00:36:25.640 fucking thing that i mentioned i i said this racism has historically been rooted in an unjustified 0.98
00:36:32.560 fear fear that the black man will take a white man's job or a white man's wife or a white man's 0.99
00:36:38.520 land this movement doesn't aim to reverse that fear but simply to stop white cops from 1.00
00:36:45.380 disproportionately killing blacks if you can't support that fuck you that is my tweet there is 1.00
00:36:52.600 fear on both sides there is fear in the white man that the black man will rise up and take over the 1.00
00:36:58.480 country it is an unjustified fear and ups an unsubstantiated fear that has existed since the
00:37:04.500 inception of america on the flip side you have the very justified justified and substantiated claims 0.99
00:37:11.700 from black people that they are scared to go out of their house yes when i drive in my car 0.87
00:37:16.940 you've seen this time and time again when a black person gets in their car and they see a cop behind 1.00
00:37:21.840 them now i look at it a little bit differently personally because i've been on the wrong side
00:37:26.440 of the law so take me out of the equation logan on the other hand when he sees a cop behind him
00:37:30.600 and i'll speak for you i'm sorry and let me know if i speak wrong you feel safe hey there's a cop
00:37:35.400 behind me like this guy's got my best interest in mind if i if something were to happen to me
00:37:39.840 right now this police officer would do everything in his power to help me that is the exact opposite 0.95
00:37:44.840 of what black people feel if i go over the speed limit by five five miles per hour right now it
00:37:50.420 could lead to me being pulled over, which could then lead to me, even if I do obey the orders of
00:37:56.760 the police officer, as we've seen, it could lead to me being murdered or, or arrested and sent to
00:38:04.740 jail for something I may or may not have done. It is a constant state of fear for both the black
00:38:10.320 man in America and the racist white man in America. And the unfortunate part of the situation 0.84
00:38:16.900 is fear is not something easily addressed that is that is a deep deep rooted issue that will take 0.90
00:38:25.600 hundreds of fucking years maybe to address i mean no no no he could take at least we're all we're 0.91
00:38:32.880 all fearful over certain things all over the place but the one you know racism fear is something we 0.98
00:38:37.420 can definitely attack at the root and start to work on absolutely yeah there's just evil people
00:38:41.340 in the world man like uh i envy the dude who can eradicate all of them seems a little far-fetched
00:38:47.960 i you know some people are just born bad and and it's it's unfortunately i don't see stopping until
00:38:55.700 humanity is replaced with androids which we talked about but this is but this cause like i i want to 0.90
00:39:03.400 go back to one more time this cause isn't even about that this cause is just giving black people 0.52
00:39:08.440 the right to live that's it and once again if you can't get on board for that then i don't
00:39:14.060 know what to say to you it's just simply and listen there's a lot there are statistics out
00:39:18.840 there abroad and it is and statistics although you know i love data being a businessman although 0.57
00:39:24.220 statistics tell a story and is what it is what the uh people who are against the black lives
00:39:29.720 matter movement use the most why do i never see videos of white men being killed by cops
00:39:36.240 why do i this could be just me i i'll speak i may be ignorant do they not do they not rise to the
00:39:42.700 top of socials it's like uh it's it's back to the narrative thing so that's not the narrative
00:39:47.640 we're pushing right now because like chances are probably if a white man is well don't you think
00:39:53.620 they would have been served up by trump or by or sorry not by trump but by someone on the other
00:39:57.440 like where are the videos like who said it the other day you'll never see a video of a cop choking 0.98
00:40:02.860 out a jewish man to death in fucking williamsburg because it'll never fucking happen so like is it 0.99
00:40:07.980 not happening is it not being recorded what is i'm sure if it does happen it's it's so minor and 0.99
00:40:15.260 and that's like that's just not the story that's not it that ain't it chief there's a there's a
00:40:20.460 people are more focused on the actual issue at hand but also like i just i i'm positive probably
00:40:27.020 that that doesn't happen that's what i'm saying go on the kind of other side of that there is a
00:40:30.960 hashtag called hashtag my white privilege that shows people who have been in scenarios where
00:40:36.400 they should have been for all purposes arrested for what they did however they because they were
00:40:43.500 white and they i mean they were willing to share their experience online using the hashtag my white
00:40:47.640 privilege they were able to show that had this been anyone else person of color whatever it was
00:40:53.740 they would they would have been arrested dude this is really tough tough to dig through right
00:40:58.620 now just to find things but no no i'm not no i'm not i mean listen dude i'm the expert on what
00:41:04.240 on this particular topic i'm the white guy that got let off i'm him bro i am him dude i do you
00:41:10.720 know how many narcotics felonies and violent crime felonies i was up against where they were just
00:41:15.660 like hey mike i gotta tell you man just do better just do better next time you had a great lawyer
00:41:23.580 Bro, I'm the first to admit it.
00:41:26.060 And, you know, like, yeah, like, were some of this charges fucked up?
00:41:30.760 Were there other factors at play?
00:41:32.100 Of course.
00:41:32.480 But something tells me that after my second narcotics arrest for heroin possession with intent to sell, Jerome, who gets more time than Brandon, Kanye West, gorgeous, everybody knows the song, I would have been in jail.
00:41:48.020 Not going back out to get more heroin to sell.
00:41:51.200 You know what I'm saying? 0.99
00:41:51.720 And so, dude, like, bro, I fucking know that story. 0.98
00:41:54.580 I know that story. 0.98
00:41:55.880 You know what I'm saying? 0.99
00:41:56.340 And it's fucked up. 1.00
00:41:57.220 It's fucked up. 1.00
00:41:57.800 And it sucks for me to say that I should have been in jail. 0.99
00:42:00.480 I don't want to say that. 0.78
00:42:01.600 Right.
00:42:01.860 I say it all the time.
00:42:02.880 Yeah.
00:42:03.400 Or dead, right?
00:42:04.300 Mike's a walking miracle. 0.97
00:42:05.620 Men should either, again, be in jail or dead. 0.85
00:42:08.160 I also just have to, like, knowing everything we just talked about, I have to commend all the black people that were marching at the protest yesterday. 0.98
00:42:16.900 And especially the ones who got in that front line.
00:42:19.320 And there was one woman who was so vocal and so powerful and inspirational.
00:42:26.180 She was commanding a group of like a thousand protesters because of how fiery and passionate she was.
00:42:31.780 And that video with Kiki Palmer that went viral.
00:42:34.240 Did y'all see that?
00:42:34.980 You didn't see that?
00:42:35.880 I did not.
00:42:36.420 Kiki Palmer snapped.
00:42:38.220 No, unfortunately, I couldn't see anything online because it was all black boxes.
00:42:43.500 You make a good point.
00:42:45.240 Let me play this video.
00:42:46.700 saying once the looting starts the shooting starts you have a president talking about the
00:42:51.140 second amendment as a use for people to come out here and use firearms against the people
00:42:53.960 that are protesting this is the messages that we're seeing i don't know if you on social media
00:42:58.120 because the news don't tell you everything but you have to pay attention to what's going on
00:43:02.120 or else we're gonna we have a president that's trying to incite a race war and when the borders
00:43:06.580 are closed we can't leave you have people in here that need your help this is when you so she's
00:43:12.740 talking to the national guard and we got the privilege of walking up during this moment like
00:43:17.260 we really yeah dude i was i'm two feet behind the person filming um and she's listening i like that
00:43:24.440 bro they all were they all were listening i i believe this is the national guard um by the
00:43:30.980 what's the uh determinant between telling the difference between um the army versus the camos
00:43:35.780 and m16s are usually the giveaway no but army uh it wasn't the arm no the army when the army
00:43:41.100 was coming at a certain i don't believe the army was deployed okay um there was threats there was
00:43:45.420 threats of it but yeah they were listening it was it was it was awesome and this officer was like
00:43:49.020 listen i she wanted them to walk with her he's like i can't i have to stay in my post uh but i
00:43:54.400 walk with you to the end of the street and um kiki was like yeah that's not that's not good
00:43:59.000 enough for me and um he offered to take a knee and we all did uh kiki left but everyone else took a
00:44:04.540 knee he took a knee and it was just a it was a very beautiful moment that i'm i was happy to be
00:44:08.060 a part of and then i saw this video go viral and i said this is this is this is what we need right
00:44:11.260 now it's everything we need shout out to every cop and every uh uh national guard soldier that
00:44:19.500 that did this that had a conversation that met with the streets and talked about it took a knee
00:44:24.200 took a walk whatever you were able to do at your post like this is the stuff we need this is how
00:44:28.380 you make it work oh at the uh at the protest there's a there's there's some stuff that was
00:44:35.880 i mean you know how often i'm mistaken for jake right yeah so so given given the looting story
00:44:41.180 about jake that just came out can you can you imagine like some of the reactions i was actually
00:44:46.240 pleasantly surprised with how many people didn't confuse me yesterday there was probably like five
00:44:49.580 some some of the reactions i got i was i was standing on the front line and this kid goes
00:44:53.760 yo hey weren't you just looting and like knee-jerk reaction i was like no that was my brother and he 0.96
00:45:00.320 goes so he was looting i was like wait no no fuck no no no i go all right so a no that was my brother 0.95
00:45:06.620 b he wasn't looting no please please just i'm logan hello yeah he goes yo logan just admitted 0.99
00:45:13.440 his brother was looting that's what he said fuck danny said he said yo logan just admitted his 0.92
00:45:18.960 brother was looting and then and then i'm walking up vine street a girl passes me and sees me she 0.99
00:45:25.080 He goes, oh, now he wants to protest.
00:45:27.480 I go, please, that was my brother, please.
00:45:29.600 She goes, oh, I'm sorry.
00:45:31.040 But people were so, I don't know, dude.
00:45:33.740 It was just so, I was affected.
00:45:35.980 I've already said it, but please go attend a protest.
00:45:38.580 The energy and, like, you can't underestimate the power of a group of people with the same goal in mind.
00:45:45.760 I tried that first day.
00:45:48.480 I tried.
00:45:48.940 I went with you.
00:45:49.900 We went at the wrong time, all right?
00:45:51.500 What do you mean?
00:45:52.020 Well, I'm just, no, I know you're not, but I just, you know, I'll be honest.
00:45:55.080 We hit a mile, you're going to have problems
00:45:58.280 You
00:45:59.260 You're doing great
00:46:02.040 You're on Twitter
00:46:03.080 You got a voice
00:46:04.700 We were leaving and there were these workers
00:46:07.200 Boarding up
00:46:07.840 Very sad, boarding up
00:46:10.320 A small business
00:46:11.600 And one of them recognized me
00:46:14.700 And their son's like, can I take a picture from my son
00:46:17.060 He was like, yeah
00:46:18.200 And he goes, do you want to take a picture
00:46:21.220 With the drill and act like it
00:46:23.020 Stop
00:46:23.760 and I go no
00:46:25.880 please
00:46:27.860 no
00:46:28.440 he's talking about the infamous picture of the girl
00:46:32.000 with the drill faking to fix a window 1.00
00:46:33.920 so that she could post it on her fucking Instagram 1.00
00:46:35.720 thank you 1.00
00:46:36.640 boyfriend of the year award
00:46:38.900 no no
00:46:39.860 yeah that kind of
00:46:41.560 there was a couple that walked past me right then
00:46:43.760 there was like a couple that walked back
00:46:46.000 past me 1.00
00:46:46.760 and they go back to the brothers and the ass 1.00
00:46:49.560 they said that 1.00
00:46:50.600 yeah
00:46:52.240 I know it was good for me
00:46:55.040 I just like you know I love Jake
00:46:56.300 I don't love Trash and Jake
00:46:58.240 I want him to do the best ever 0.98
00:46:59.460 and he will he'll come back he's gonna kill it
00:47:01.280 he's not even come back I mean he here 0.99
00:47:03.060 he'll go somewhere
00:47:04.700 I have to take another shot at myself
00:47:07.280 and I think one of the biggest things
00:47:08.760 that people can do right now
00:47:11.400 is step away
00:47:13.360 from yourself look back
00:47:15.460 inward and say what am
00:47:17.380 I doing to actually make
00:47:19.280 things better because I have been 0.83
00:47:21.400 so fucking guilty of of of inflaming and igniting further divisive speech now now not to cause 0.92
00:47:30.000 riots and stuff like that but just like how much more do i have to bash trump how much more do i 0.98
00:47:35.580 have to bash certain things what i want to focus on right now is the solutions we all know the
00:47:42.260 problems that exist in this country if you're still asleep to problematic police malpractice
00:47:48.740 in this country, you will never wake up. Unfortunately, you will be left in the stone
00:47:54.480 ages. You are, you will, you will be cryogenically frozen in your belief and left to perish in a pit
00:48:01.000 of, of demented thought patterns. And I can't help you. I cannot help you. Okay. But let's
00:48:07.340 talk solutions. I think we started that today. Your question was, what am I doing right now to
00:48:11.760 help? Yeah. And to be, to be honest, the answer for a lot of people could be nothing. Now that
00:48:16.660 doesn't get you anywhere to say i'm not doing anything to help that's not the right question
00:48:20.320 the question could be how can i be of service what can i do what can i do it's not what am i
00:48:25.780 doing right now it's what can i do how can i be of service sounds like how can i help i'm sorry
00:48:29.800 i don't do the word stuff as much as you know that's fine i know you speak from emotion and
00:48:33.400 sometimes people think uh speak from what is said as opposed to how it's cool that's fine okay again
00:48:38.940 it's just framing the question because the question you asked gets the answer i might not
00:48:44.340 be doing something some people could be doing something to help that what am i doing right now
00:48:47.580 to help there could be positive answers but it doesn't keep the ball rolling you know cue ball
00:48:53.460 into the eight ball in the corner pocket we need to get to the next steps what can i do and that
00:48:57.800 question is a hard question and it might not the answer might not come today it might not come
00:49:01.420 tomorrow but it might come a week from now a month from now as you continue to get more educated on
00:49:05.840 the subject reading more books talking to more people having positive civil discourse wait what
00:49:11.080 we just touched on this so many times like i know well told you in this podcast alone exactly what
00:49:15.780 to do i'm gonna give you through again yeah let's do it again let's cover it again easy things
00:49:19.240 love it two of them are just i want you to watch because if you start this i promise you will be
00:49:23.900 the catalyst to you getting involved or feeling some type of way about this movement watch the
00:49:28.580 13th on netflix watch when they see us on netflix three go to go attend a protest feel that feel 0.93
00:49:35.260 that fucking energy get yourself involved just show up have a conversation that's it talk to me 0.87
00:49:41.920 you ain't doing anything anyways it's quarantine which which brings me to another question 0.99
00:49:46.300 wait yeah we want we missed this how will the protests and large gatherings of people
00:49:55.140 affect the nationwide mandated obligatory quarantine that somehow is we've completely
00:50:04.400 forgotten about let's hope we don't see any outbreaks but it's entirely possible how can we
00:50:10.140 not no everyone's immune right now hold on can we please on the next episode at least devote
00:50:17.400 15 to 20 minutes about talking about some of these like conspiracies oh yeah bro like this
00:50:25.080 this is this is so like you've got a you've got a global pandemic which embarrassingly takes an
00:50:33.900 outsized amount of lives in america that story starts to heat up in a big way people are like 0.94
00:50:40.580 yo that guy's responsible for a hundred thousand dead fucking americans and then all of a sudden 0.96
00:50:47.480 out of nowhere you get the uprising of of the fucking century that somehow pushes covid so far 0.99
00:50:55.680 back that the same people that were like do not come within six feet of each other you will die 0.98
00:51:00.640 immediately are in the streets
00:51:02.560 standing next to people without masks
00:51:04.760 on, well
00:51:06.560 police officers or people in police
00:51:08.780 outfits drop bricks off at corners 0.99
00:51:10.440 for people to think, what the fuck is going on, dude? 0.99
00:51:12.540 What the fuck is going on, dude? 1.00
00:51:15.620 What is going on, dude? 1.00
00:51:17.160 Here's a real problem.
00:51:18.860 There's a second outbreak. 1.00
00:51:20.840 We're fucked. Fucked. 1.00
00:51:22.320 So fuckity fucked! 1.00
00:51:25.100 Yeah, the economy's in the garbage can at that point. 1.00
00:51:27.140 Economy's already gonna go there, dude.
00:51:28.660 Oh, for sure. Unemployment is higher.
00:51:30.640 than fucking it will ever be. 0.99
00:51:33.080 We're in a messy situation, 0.98
00:51:34.760 but I don't.
00:51:35.440 Because here's what's fascinating.
00:51:37.740 If we make it past this global uprising
00:51:43.200 and everyone's A-OK
00:51:45.000 and there ain't that many spikes
00:51:47.500 in the COVID cases,
00:51:50.060 then what?
00:51:50.400 Does that tell us something about COVID
00:51:51.920 in the first place?
00:51:52.600 I don't know.
00:51:53.380 Where are we?
00:51:54.600 I don't know.
00:51:55.360 Here's the thing,
00:51:56.240 and this is why I wanted to bring up
00:51:57.460 the conspiracy stuff.
00:52:00.640 there there are so many there are so many rungs that you can be on on the understanding of
00:52:08.720 dialogue news coverage media and propaganda in this country i like to assume that you and i sit
00:52:17.300 or the three of us sit somewhere in the middle rungs there are people at the very bottom whose
00:52:22.640 eyes are completely closed to everything they see a a news cycle that changes and they're like well
00:52:27.960 this is the big news today,
00:52:29.380 but fail to understand how the news cycles aren't intertwined or fail to
00:52:33.940 believe when someone says we have proof of MK ultra,
00:52:36.360 we have proof of this. 0.99
00:52:37.420 We believe that stuff.
00:52:38.760 Then there's a wrong way above us of people who are actually pulling the 0.99
00:52:43.540 levers on these fucking things. 0.99
00:52:45.160 Yo, 1.00
00:52:46.060 this is,
00:52:47.240 this is a lighthearted,
00:52:49.620 just a example,
00:52:51.160 an analogy.
00:52:52.160 Yo,
00:52:53.480 the president's under major trouble because of this COVID thing.
00:52:56.240 we need something now that changes the discourse in this country and the dialogue needs to go to
00:53:01.000 something else but what would be big enough the the death of a black man at the hands of police
00:53:07.820 who then you know ended up in a strange uh ambulance that was police officers instead
00:53:14.360 of medics who didn't try to revive him at all they just took him away that happened yes and
00:53:21.600 And all of a sudden you've got a 50 city burndown and a dialogue that
00:53:26.200 completely doesn't distract from COVID.
00:53:29.520 It erases it.
00:53:31.040 COVID does not exist anymore in this country. 0.98
00:53:34.060 I wish I could call you crazy so bad. 0.98
00:53:36.080 No, 1.00
00:53:36.220 no,
00:53:36.360 no,
00:53:36.520 no.
00:53:36.620 I just can't.
00:53:37.560 I am not,
00:53:38.120 I have no evidence.
00:53:39.300 I have no reason to believe it.
00:53:41.000 I have nothing whatsoever.
00:53:42.920 All I'm saying is whether it's to talk about it for fun.
00:53:45.500 And we do that.
00:53:46.060 Cause I know there's people out there who love to listen to it. 0.99
00:53:48.100 some of the shit sometimes just gets a little fucking wacky bro it's just everything you said 0.97
00:53:54.600 is true it makes no sense we just want to get the story what what happened again what happened here 0.99
00:53:59.560 where's the truth why it's fair to say that we definitely don't know where it's coming from so
00:54:03.020 you can't assume no of course like i said that could dude it could be anybody trump trump may
00:54:07.340 have done a better job than who who really knows and and and people will be like oh what about the
00:54:12.820 stuff you're seeing on the news you can't believe anything anymore dude also also watching that
00:54:17.920 documentary uh the 13th on netflix made me realize like how how uh how smart the people at the top
00:54:23.840 are they are extreme extreme they're top wrong beyond comprehension smart um and they know how
00:54:29.620 to manipulate a narrative a certain way to uh again further their agenda um so yeah definitely
00:54:37.020 be conscious of dogmatic thought in that regard now there's not only to define dogmatic and here's
00:54:42.900 why it's a i love words since high school i've never been able to wrap my head around dogma
00:54:49.120 like fully the idea of dogma i i have thousands of times i i even like semi but like dogmatic
00:54:55.300 thought elaborate or just don't yeah incline to lay down principles as incontrovertibly to true
00:55:01.640 meaning there is only one truth and anything opposing that is wrong yeah which is we as we
00:55:07.120 know completely false at one point we believe that the uh the sun revolved around the earth
00:55:11.760 that was a dogmatic thought and eventually the ties turned and the world flipped and it depends
00:55:16.520 on whose school of belief you you uh uh you listen to both aristotle and plato have very
00:55:23.220 different thought patterns on this kind of stuff but like for example do you breathe are you
00:55:26.080 breathing oxygen right now technically yes but dogmatically dogmatically yes there is a mixture
00:55:32.560 of lots of different but is oxygen a part of it yeah can you say that without any shadow of
00:55:37.460 doubt whatsoever. Using scientific research, yes,
00:55:39.860 I can reasonably argue that I'm bringing
00:55:41.700 oxygen. But there are philosophers that
00:55:43.700 are assigned a certain school of thought
00:55:45.800 who would say that that scientific research is
00:55:47.640 irrelevant. It's not the real...
00:55:48.900 That doesn't help anything. That doesn't get any
00:55:51.800 answers. What I'm trying to say is
00:55:53.440 be cautious of the information you ingest so that
00:55:55.740 you don't necessarily believe that
00:55:57.800 one specific thing that you see on
00:55:59.780 the news or in someone's social media post
00:56:01.620 or something is true.
00:56:03.240 Can I ask you guys one last question?
00:56:07.460 this is funny when uh alex jones came on the show and we blacked out with him unconscious 0.92
00:56:16.640 blacked out drank bottle after bottle of vodka ate pizza fucking blacked out i'm gonna go back 0.75
00:56:21.240 and watch that episode by the way because yes facts facts he blacked out we we lightly 0.98
00:56:25.420 encouraged and drank alongside of him he told us about um the chinese growing a virus in
00:56:33.440 laboratories there that could potentially affect 0.98
00:56:35.500 the globe. And I
00:56:37.480 laughed at him. And I said, you're a
00:56:39.480 fucking idiot, dude. And we collectively 1.00
00:56:41.620 bro. No, no, no.
00:56:43.520 I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.
00:56:45.220 Ignore it. Forget about it.
00:56:46.640 When you say so many
00:56:48.660 things, something's going to happen.
00:56:50.820 I swear to God, I could
00:56:52.600 say 10 things right off the bat right now 0.99
00:56:54.560 that sound fucking crazy. 0.99
00:56:56.380 And one of them will work. In the next 365 days, 0.98
00:56:58.640 one of them will happen, guaranteed. Wasn't that episode like four
00:57:00.480 hours or something? It was, bro,
00:57:02.120 So we should watch that.
00:57:03.640 We have a lot to say.
00:57:04.600 Very long.
00:57:07.700 Toussaint, I want to say thank you, man.
00:57:09.200 Thank you for that great conversation.
00:57:10.260 We talked for probably an hour and a half about this, and you really educated me, and I learned a lot. 0.54
00:57:13.840 Thanks for educating my white friend. 0.52
00:57:15.240 Yeah, there's a lot more I have to say about this, and I'm definitely going to continue talking about everything that you showed me.
00:57:21.420 I hope I was able to say everything correctly and amplify your voice because, like I said, you educated me beyond anything that I had originally thought
00:57:30.240 and have really improved my ability
00:57:32.860 to help out in this place.
00:57:36.520 You sound like you love the guy.
00:57:38.200 No, that's all.
00:57:39.040 I hope he does.
00:57:39.780 He's a great dude.
00:57:41.020 I want to meet this guy.
00:57:42.040 Here's what I've been watching
00:57:42.840 to educate myself.
00:57:43.860 How'd you find this one
00:57:44.580 with 3,400 views?
00:57:45.740 This was on Twitter.
00:57:46.540 I just pulled it up.
00:57:47.240 I don't think this is his account,
00:57:48.400 but Uncomfortable Conversations 0.99
00:57:49.580 with a Black Man. 1.00
00:57:51.260 What's it about?
00:57:52.120 It popped up on my Twitter
00:57:53.120 and it's just like questions
00:57:54.080 that us as white people
00:57:56.540 may not have ever asked.
00:57:58.400 Yeah, or understand.
00:57:59.100 because we were scared to it's it's super cool i think i think everyone can watch this this guy's
00:58:04.240 super articulate and it'll help you understand if you don't shout out to uh sean king for doing
00:58:09.840 what he's doing shout out to uh all the good cops shout out to all the peaceful protesters once again
00:58:15.560 and today felt a little bit calmer but with the same eagerness to create change and spark actual
00:58:24.980 reform and let's fucking do it let's do that let's let's you know let's stop fighting each 0.68
00:58:29.340 other i said i said it the other day i think we'll get more done holding hands and throwing fists 0.97
00:58:32.980 i really do i think we need to find out what the bottom acceptable rung is that everyone can agree
00:58:39.580 on and let's start enacting change we'll climb from there you got to start small let's start small
00:58:44.460 danny what time are we at no 1 13 all right so i mean i guess we could wrap it up right i have
00:58:51.900 some fun stuff i want to talk about but let's just make this uh a uh change centric podcast yeah
00:58:56.840 impact centric uh we'll get to the fun stuff next week yeah and and we'll be back next week
00:59:02.740 vlogging and stuff but yeah it's this was uh more important to us than anything we're doing because
00:59:07.700 again there's a there's a window here for opportunity and we will not be on the wrong
00:59:12.820 side of history i shall ladies and gentlemen thank you for listening to this episode for
00:59:18.000 Impulsive hit that subscribe button.
00:59:19.780 If you feel like you can follow us on Instagram,
00:59:21.520 add Impulsive Shows, little clips, little tidbits
00:59:23.440 in case you don't want to watch a full episode.
00:59:24.820 We totally get it.
00:59:26.040 And we're going to go to a protest.
00:59:27.180 I'm going to go to a protest today.
00:59:28.220 Mike, I'll FaceTime you in.
00:59:30.760 I'm going to go back to Twitter fingers 0.99
00:59:32.040 and talking to Sean King and shit. 0.63
00:59:33.560 What about some links in the description below? 0.85
00:59:36.200 As always, as always.
00:59:37.180 There's one link.
00:59:38.060 It's the most effective we've found.
00:59:40.760 It kind of directs you to wherever you decide to be.
00:59:43.240 You want to learn more.
00:59:43.900 You want to donate.
00:59:44.780 You want to do Jumping Jackson.
00:59:47.360 Can we put books in there?
00:59:50.520 Yeah, probably.
00:59:51.740 Can we put books in there?
00:59:53.260 You can't do anything in there. It's not your link.
00:59:56.380 He doesn't live in the description section?
00:59:59.740 Shout out to...
01:00:00.580 I'm sorry, what?
01:00:01.460 Can we put books in there?
01:00:02.400 Where?
01:00:02.920 In the link.
01:00:03.840 No, it's not. I didn't make the link.
01:00:05.820 Oh, he puts one link. That's a link treat of a bunch of different things.
01:00:08.900 That's the one link he puts in the description. That's what he's saying.
01:00:12.360 Also, shout out to whoever created this...
01:00:17.360 instagram story yesterday and i don't know if anybody else saw this that you could swipe up on
01:00:22.700 that instantly drafts an email to the minneapolis government that's cool to uh force or or or create
01:00:31.820 uh the the need to charge the other officers involved in this case and to upgrade their
01:00:36.200 upgrade their chauvin's charges people were going nuts with this link you swiped up it created an
01:00:40.980 email and today we have new charges yeah and and a part of me feels like you can't really deny the
01:00:46.700 fact that when a when hundreds of thousands thousands of people gather together with a very 0.98
01:00:51.400 similar cause shit's gonna get done and that's what we're seeing out there so keep fucking doing 0.93
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