00:01:24.900He gets right up next to the microphone.
00:01:26.160I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
00:01:29.580You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.
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00:01:42.540I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcast,
00:01:48.180the true crime comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
00:01:52.580Each week I bring on an amazing guest.
00:07:36.020Every time she goes around them, she starts sniffling and she's like,
00:07:40.220and she's saying it's because of the hay but i think she's in denial
00:07:45.480it could be the hay there's like hay fever right you can get that in ohio you can grow into an
00:07:52.460allergy allergy right like the older you get you can okay because like i also get as i've gotten
00:07:59.240older i get motion sickness now i get extreme like roller coasters loved them when i was younger
00:08:04.760still love them but afterwards i feel like i won new york felt so nauseous like ruined my day
00:08:09.680i can't sit in front of like a big movie screen like i can't watch tv here and sit really close0.95
00:08:14.240to it because when it moves so much i get like you would have lost your shit at the vr playground0.76
00:08:20.420where do we even start with i don't know i don't know i wish we had like an expert on the show vr0.91
00:08:26.680is we we've talked about this at length before i think vr is the next massive boom i think it has
00:08:34.920been for a while uh you know all you had the weed boom and then you had or you had the crypto boom
00:08:39.940now the weed boom and i think vr is going to be a a massive financial boom but we went to this
00:08:45.720virtual reality place yesterday in santa monica we got we got kind of first access to it before
00:08:50.680they open up to the public full-on immersive virtual reality experience where you have
00:08:55.660the headset you have the the noise canceling headphones that just provide you immersive
00:09:01.120sound from the experience and you're in this massive room that you do not get to see until
00:09:05.240after the experience is over that's lined with that's lined with sensors all around the room
00:09:09.440it's massive i said massive probably 15 times it was like 80 by 50 foot big room and you go in
00:09:17.280there and you have a pack on your back which is the the cpu the computer unit you've got sensors
00:09:21.440on your hands and feet and then and then when you get in there they hand you a a weapon which is
00:09:27.080which is uh which is an assault rifle at times you can change it into a gatling gun a chainsaw
00:09:32.980for zombies a sniper rifle and like i didn't really know what to expect going into it me and0.95
00:09:39.160him you know i had talked about vr a ton in the past and i'm like yo this this shit's gonna be0.96
00:09:42.480cool once it once it happens blown blown away yeah i mean dude coolest thing in the world0.93
00:09:47.620it is one of the coolest experiences i've ever done the gun the gun that we were using recoils
00:09:53.760dude what do it so it really feels like you're shooting a gun and oh my god it's so weird because
00:10:00.420in this place there's two uh it's it's an open uh space minus two cement columns that just hold
00:10:06.560the building up but the the program is programmed with obviously like spaces and walls so it
00:10:12.600recognizes like the space you're in yo we're sprinting around this place and in the game again
00:10:16.960we see the pillar yeah and in real life we're running around we can't see anything in real
00:10:21.620like but we're missing the pillar by like two inches very close so precise yeah you run around
00:10:26.740a pit like million actually my boxing coach who connected us to the people there um was playing0.86
00:10:32.280and he got fucked up bro he accidentally ran into a wall bad nose up uh had to stop playing0.81
00:10:38.780like crazy yeah because he tripped it's i mean i'll be honest it's kind of it's kind of dangerous0.98
00:10:44.840does it like totally disorient you or are you like oh okay you know that you're in this i don't know
00:10:49.980i don't get it when you walk out of there yeah you i think the more time you spend in it and i
00:10:56.140say this uh holistically in your life the more hours you spend in there the the less you will
00:11:02.980know the difference between where you are which i mean when we walked out of their walls we weren't
00:11:08.100sure yeah like for but but since we only played for a couple hours it was only for 15 minutes
00:11:12.400but when you start spending hundreds of man hours inside that program i guarantee you similar to
00:11:19.480what we've seen in movies you will start to be able to tell less and less about the difference
00:11:23.160it is so it is so realistic there's there's multiple different game types we played one
00:11:28.840where it's team versus team and so it was him and josie versus me and amara and and hayden somehow
00:11:34.560we got hayden as well shout out hayden which was probably a dog no he's a he's a dog he's great
00:11:38.800strategy of course he strategizes i look up someone sniping me from the roof so there's
00:11:43.220there's in the game there's an you you go into an elevator and you push a button and elevate you
00:11:48.580above the map and then you pull out the sniper rifle and you snipe down at other people on the
00:11:52.640same level right yeah so so that's what i think that's where i think the motion sickness comes
00:11:57.340from because in the game check us out in the game and everything you see you're walking downstairs
00:12:02.540yeah in real life you're walking on a flat surface okay a one level surface in the game you go up an
00:12:08.400elevator in real life you're not going anywhere you're just standing so your mind is telling you
00:12:11.580that you're either going up or down but you're but you're because you think about when you're
00:12:16.100walking down somewhere you're bending your knees a certain way so you're doing that but you're
00:12:19.960not actually going uh up or down it's it's fascinating and i think the only reason this
00:12:26.220isn't already currently like the biggest industry in the world is because the tech has simply not
00:12:30.400caught up to the it's getting close it's getting close like we and and him bringing that up is
00:12:35.500funny because ironically the best part of the day was when the tech breaks down so so so i'll be
00:12:43.140looking at logan and he's normally like a a halo style paratrooper with the mask on and the gun
00:12:48.360and out of nowhere his hands will be coming out of the sides of his out of the sides of his head
00:12:52.660and for some reason this particular system we played on yesterday has difficulty detecting
00:12:58.420this the minute differences in height of humans and i think if you fall under a certain height
00:13:03.280it turns you into a child so both amara and david were little pint-sized humans and and it was we
00:13:11.340were just crying i mean there were parts of it where i was just crying laughing we've laughed
00:13:15.120in a while in a long time but but overall i mean with the the last game we played was a zombie
00:13:20.540experience where you have to uh escape from a from a rooftop and it brings you through the
00:13:25.500entire building and then you get back to the roof and you have to get a chopper but the zombies take
00:13:28.920it over and you have to you have to strategize what what ammo you want to use because if you
00:13:33.600run out of gatling gun ammo and you get a horde you're in trouble but very very cool very realistic
00:13:38.800stuff and and the one point i kept falling back on was the financial boom for that sector will be
00:13:46.720one when the tech is gets perfected and then two and this will be the big one when they move it
00:13:52.820into the adult space as soon as as soon as these guys create an immersive experience
00:13:58.580where a fat bald man not too far from myself can walk into a bar and pick up the hottest girl in
00:14:09.500the bar and if the and if the cpu guy next to him says hey that's my girlfriend he can he can0.98
00:14:13.660fucking crack his skull with a bottle up in the game exactly imagine imagine the power that you0.99
00:14:19.440feel you'll have which you can just beat the shit out of the guy that's trying to get the girl you're1.00
00:14:23.060gonna get and then you go you bring the girl to the bathroom and i think what they'll do is0.99
00:14:27.340Eventually, they'll set it up somehow through some sort of automation where then they will join a physical unit that you can attach to your penis once it's erect or someone on the staff of the place can do it for you or something.0.87
00:14:42.340I don't know what it's going to be exactly.0.66
00:14:43.940So when you bring that girl into the bathroom, that CPU girl that doesn't actually exist and she starts giving you head, it lines up simultaneously with the program.
00:14:53.200and now you're getting head in a program
00:14:55.260with an actual result of you coming in real life.
00:19:55.960Sometimes a gun comes out of his head.
00:19:59.460No, I thought you were going to say the best part was since I have size 13 feet and, you know, the foot sensors have to go around your foot.
00:20:07.920I pulled one of the loops too tight on it and my foot sensor popped off.
00:31:34.560and also the new uh going out trend that is happening got some bad news huh some bad news
00:31:42.640coming in from arizona and and this is right on the heels of me you know bringing up the people
00:31:47.320that had called the uh coronavirus a political hoax arizona cases are skyrocketing right now
00:31:53.440um and and you know i don't the coronavirus outbreak in arizona is going very badly
00:31:58.90040 this is business insider the exact accelerating spread of covet 19 is caused primarily by the
00:32:04.820virus is directly related to the state's easing of coronavirus restrictions 25 states in puerto
00:32:10.280rico have seen infections increased by at least 10 in the past two weeks and so i saw a stat
00:32:15.060yesterday that they are actually growing at a at a rate that is three times what new york state was
00:32:21.460growing at on the initial wave which was the hardest hit state in the country and so you know0.97
00:32:25.680I think I made some, some lighthearted humor about the people who called it a hoax on a couple episodes ago, but this is no fucking joke, dude.
00:32:32.440Like we're, we, you know, Trump has obviously talked a lot about how the, the democratic states have been hit the hardest and all, all of this, you know, political agenda that has, and not just him on both sides, but all the political agenda that has happened around the coronavirus.
00:32:49.840when in reality i don't want to hear from donald trump i don't want to hear from any pundits on0.97
00:32:55.460this shit i want to hear from the doctors who have the statistics since day one i don't care0.99
00:32:59.700what anybody else has to say about i don't believe there's a political gain to be had by a doctor0.99
00:33:04.360reporting the statistics and this does not look pretty we've seen arizona which is where jake was
00:33:09.080which is where the partying has already kicked off you can go to you know uh massive festivals
00:33:14.080there right now bars are all open met no mass required and we're now seeing the consequences
00:33:18.800of that action that's insane it's the second wave which is supposed to be way worse i read comments
00:33:24.520people call me crazy when i said there's gonna be a second wave how could it makes perfect sense0.99
00:33:28.820how could there not be a fucking second wave to be an idiot especially because and i i hate to do0.99
00:33:33.820this we have not been given in grace with good leadership and i literally i seriously think we're1.00
00:33:41.320running around like chicken with chickens with our head cut absolutely we have no idea what to do we
00:33:45.440have no idea how it spreads we have no idea how to stop it um and the and the idea is we do get
00:33:49.860to stop it and this is a this is a sideline point trump was touting hydro hydroxychloroquine
00:33:57.060hydroxychloroquine which is uh what was it the malaria drug i can't remember he uh authorized
00:34:03.320a federal or an executive order to to speed up production of this drug and the fda just revoked0.67
00:34:08.840it and said this drug doesn't do shit to fucking help you at all that ain't one of the ones you0.99
00:34:14.100just like fuck around because it fucks you up yeah it could fuck you up and so the feds halted0.99
00:34:18.980the emergency use of coronavirus drug so you got and i once again i don't want to blame just trump1.00
00:34:24.040but you've got one person saying one thing then the doctor saying that ain't true and then a state0.78
00:34:29.300governor says fuck this we're reopening then the state goes under it is a mess just like everything0.96
00:34:34.340that's been happening with the other problem in the country it's just unorganized disaster i have0.99
00:34:38.800question yes sir do you think uh as the leaders as the authorities of this country do you think0.99
00:34:46.460their action plan is uh like knowing knowing that they know nothing about this they don't know shit0.98
00:34:53.820about shit and they aren't sure how it spreads what the best course of action is knowing that0.98
00:34:58.900which they do we we don't we're like finding out now that like the people we're listening to0.99
00:35:02.160actually don't know anything yep they thought it would be a better idea to just tell us information
00:35:08.420that may or may not be true versus saying we're unsure of this let's handle it with caution and
00:35:14.160then proceed accordingly one thousand one so they'll just make up just to get some people
00:35:19.180believing in doing something there is never in my life that i can remember ever been a time
00:35:25.120where people were in such a rush to be right about anything whether it's trump whether it's
00:35:32.800the government whether it's the feds whether it's whoever it is everybody wants to be right
00:35:38.440and people will go extraordinary lengths right now to not be wrong trump got this wrong this
00:35:46.160drug ain't gonna work ain't gonna work but do you think he's in a rush to talk about the fact that
00:35:51.280he got this wrong hell no he's gonna try what he'll try to do now is be right about something0.55
00:35:56.360else real quick it's a it's a fucking messy place that we're in in social media uh amplifies it0.97
00:36:03.820yeah because he could so quickly tweet hey he might have got information about hydroxychloroquine0.93
00:36:09.200chloroquine chloroquine chloroquine chloroquine from from one person yo uh we just got some
00:36:15.680independent reports back this drug is actually killing the coronavirus he might go open twitter
00:36:19.900i have found the solve for this disease boom boom that quickly because he's in such a rush to be
00:36:26.540right just like so many other people no one's fact checking no one's doing the research i mean
00:36:30.780again that's the hard stuff how do you actually find the the things that work and how do you get
00:36:35.160that information to someone that can share the information to publicize it to the entire world0.68
00:36:39.060like it's a long process bro gen z millennials we getting frustrated we getting real fucking fed up0.98
00:36:47.340with this shit because we know how to do those things right like you see you see something0.94
00:36:51.580online you're like i don't know if that's true and then you can look look it up on google really0.99
00:36:55.900fast to find out if it's true we know how to do that like yeah with ourselves still grain of salt
00:36:59.780anything on the internet i'm just saying no for sure it is it is getting frustrating people want
00:37:05.700to go out people want to shake hands people want to give give hugs i see people who won't uh touch
00:37:10.140me look at me let alone touch me yeah i see people who will shake my hand and refuse to wear a mask
00:37:15.800disorganized um unsure uncertainty but it's scary it's been so messy too because like you would
00:37:26.160think okay we've got a deadly disease out there that's kill it now killed over you know 100 is it
00:37:32.160200 000 people now i can't remember but over 100 000 people at least would the would the right
00:37:37.360thing to do be to err on the side of caution at least individually i i understand that uh the
00:37:45.120individual states and the federal government wants to reopen because we are we are taking a pounding
00:37:49.280as is the rest of the world but but from an individual standpoint i would assume people
00:37:56.920would everybody would want to exercise you know caution air on the side of caution and this this
00:38:01.560even goes against me i got i got pictured walking down the street without a mask on the way to catch
00:38:06.440the other night and you know given there was no one around us it was a straight shot into the
00:38:11.240restaurant we put our masks on as soon as we got in which was required of us but i mean maybe i i
00:38:16.640i don't know that's the thing like should i have a mask on right now you looked great in the picture
00:38:20.660though i looked like i was ready to suck is there is anything gonna happen between the car and the
00:38:24.980front door that someone opens for you i don't know like are you breathing in air why why look at that0.69
00:38:29.380you guys are on the internet why does my face look like that man like look at all three you guys look1.00
00:38:34.040so good and i like you could put a dick right in it what i think you even have your tongue in your0.98
00:38:39.040cheek too i think you should do that for all your paparazzi photos yeah like just make that face like0.99
00:38:43.820you're constantly saying like whenever you walk by the paparazzi just do this oh your face looks
00:38:49.320slim mike you've been uh doing something i've been trying to do better i mean i bought a new
00:38:52.380bike i've been riding that but yeah i mean see and and and logan was the only one with the uh0.95
00:38:56.800with the fucking mask on that is so weird how the fucking tables have turned0.95
00:39:01.120the internet's golden boy wow yo that's i feel good man i feel good you didn't have the maverick1.00
00:39:08.520logo on the outside bro i flipped what happened i flipped it why anytime i go out in public and
00:39:15.920uh i am in contention for any controversy i.e not wearing a mask i don't want it to be tied
00:39:23.660to my brand i don't want i just like any and that's my anytime i any say something went wrong
00:39:30.500and i have a maverick logo plastered on my face i don't know yeah say he got in trouble for not
00:39:34.640wearing a mask yeah and it's like oh his whole crew and there's the maverick logo like i just0.85
00:39:38.620keep that this brand us this camp everything is in such good fucking shape right now how's the0.73
00:39:43.520maverick club doing phenomenal yeah and it's the greatest thing of my life really it is i swear to0.81
00:39:48.300god i so i'm lucky that i'm a creator who actually really does truly appreciate his fans like if you
00:39:53.820ever met me in real life it's not it's not like fan meets star it's like homie meets homie what's
00:39:59.240good yo let's take a pic how you doing yeah you're happy legit like legit like i i love the beginning
00:40:03.800i love these people and i always have so this club when i say to people this is truly like an
00:40:08.340intimate special curated experience yeah not only is it intimate because i'm giving you 100 of me
00:40:14.320but it is curated i'm i'm shaping an experience for the members to really get what it's worth
00:40:21.960it's 20 bucks a month it's a subscription service mark my words this will be a model that um a
00:50:18.260Yeah, I I'm on the sidelines waiting for that to happen to buy when there's real blood, you know, you know, I'd love I hate to say I'd love to see a 14,000 Dow so I could buy everything, you know, but it's just been interesting that not very informed on all of these.0.99
00:50:46.960You got stocks and dividends and working on stocks and I need to get I need to get any put options going.
00:50:53.920I don't know. He's not doing that. He doesn't do that. I'm just saying all the vocabulary I know evolving stocks.
00:50:57.980You know what this is similar to Logan to bring to bring it back a little bit.
00:51:01.520People are mad. You know, all these all these traditional guys are mad that Portnoy is leading all these speculative traders with with the way he trades and the way he speaks.
00:51:11.380It feels very similar to the way you and KSI led new boxing fans in.
00:51:16.040People hate the idea that a seemingly less intelligent or a person who is not an expert can do better than you're doing at the thing you're apparently so good at.