Impaulsive with Logan Paul - June 18, 2020


E194 Ross Edgley: The Superhuman Athlete Who Swam Around Great Britain - IMPAULSIVE EP. 194

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E193 Virtual Reality Will Ruin Your Life - IMPAULSIVE EP. 193 E195 Logan Paul’s Message To Ninja - IMPAULSIVE EP. 195

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1 hour and 20 minutes

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16,876

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307

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00:02:12.820 You know, we're all chowing down like that.
00:02:14.480 And I look over to the captain and it was this vegetable soup.
00:02:17.360 And I looked over and I noticed that mine had like pork or chicken in it or something.
00:02:21.140 And I said, how come yours hasn't got pork or chicken?
00:02:24.680 How come mine's just got meat in?
00:02:26.020 And he just leant over into my bowl.
00:02:27.560 He said, that's not pork or chicken.
00:02:29.180 That's your tongue. 0.90
00:02:29.740 you like you do like my mustache no she called you mikey mustache has the show started yes hello
00:02:45.460 hi welcome back to impulsive the number one podcast in the world yeah a lot of things are 0.97
00:02:51.300 happening who i mean what's fucking new it's 2020 the world's gone to shit i'm not uh totally 0.84
00:02:57.600 convinced that it won't end this year my mustache is back chrystalia some some stuff went down on 0.94
00:03:04.160 on twitter i don't even want to talk about it that much it's just like people are tweeting at me
00:03:09.400 um because remember way back when when he uh roasted and toasted me on twitter you guys were 0.98
00:03:17.220 beefing for like a second it wasn't even just beef he just fucked me up he just fucked me up 0.92
00:03:22.100 he's like literally a professional at that though so not at all surprising denny's grand slant to 0.98
00:03:25.820 he said uh he's i made a caption uh promoting a tweet promoting my vlogs as i do said uh and
00:03:33.420 it's the end of logan paul vlogs important that you watch and this was what three years ago and
00:03:37.800 he said no it's not and i put a bunch of crying and he was funny but i was like too young to
00:03:42.600 understand what was happening and i was i was just a bitter just angry at the world that i was
00:03:46.320 inadequate and so i lashed out he put a bunch of crying emoji emojis and i was like now i know why
00:03:52.980 their Omni career took a dive and then he responded to that and said,
00:03:57.040 at least when my career dies,
00:03:58.140 you can film it and put it on YouTube.
00:04:00.160 The day might be here.
00:04:01.700 Oh God.
00:04:02.880 We might,
00:04:03.400 it might be his day.
00:04:04.600 Cause I have people tweeting at me and they're like,
00:04:06.240 it's all come full circle.
00:04:07.060 Bro,
00:04:07.380 everything,
00:04:08.620 every,
00:04:09.320 what about Georgia standup thing?
00:04:11.840 No,
00:04:12.940 no.
00:04:13.580 Did that happen yet?
00:04:14.560 That seems like a weird transition back.
00:04:16.320 What about it?
00:04:18.240 I mean, 0.99
00:04:18.660 did this shit happen? 1.00
00:04:20.000 Is there proof or what? 1.00
00:04:21.040 Is it just,
00:04:21.580 is it,
00:04:21.900 is it,
00:04:22.300 I don't know.
00:04:23.060 That's why I don't like talking.
00:04:24.080 I'm just, it popped off on Twitter last night.
00:04:26.420 People coming at me like, yo, this, you know, again, this might be the time to film his
00:04:29.580 career.
00:04:30.180 No, you're not.
00:04:30.980 You're not.
00:04:31.420 You're, you're taking the high road.
00:04:33.000 You're probably high anyways right now.
00:04:34.740 Right now.
00:04:35.160 I'm not, I'm not, I don't, I don't smoke in the, in the days and during the days when
00:04:38.740 it's daylight.
00:04:39.860 One thing I do know about is that Belle Delphine made a comeback.
00:04:44.380 Wow.
00:04:45.080 She's talking about ducks in her music video.
00:04:48.080 She goes, here's a big duck.
00:04:49.240 Do you saw the video?
00:04:50.120 Oh yeah. 1.00
00:04:50.780 What is going on with her, dude?
00:04:52.300 But there are a lot of people out there saying 1.00
00:04:54.660 that her remix
00:04:56.660 of Gooba is better than the original.
00:04:59.940 I don't know if that's
00:05:00.920 crazy difficult to do.
00:05:02.940 But yeah, she came back 0.65
00:05:04.460 with a music video. 1.00
00:05:06.380 It's like a 6ix9ine spoof. 1.00
00:05:08.400 It's to promote her OnlyFans, right? 1.00
00:05:10.060 Oh, is that what it is?
00:05:11.320 How would you describe this girl for people who don't know who she is? 1.00
00:05:13.600 She's like a... 1.00
00:05:14.500 Is she like an e-girl? 1.00
00:05:16.700 No, there's like a genre for this. 0.99
00:05:18.220 Oh, cosplay?
00:05:19.360 Yes, that's it. 1.00
00:05:20.220 I don't think she's an e-girl 0.97
00:05:24.340 No, she's not an e-girl, cosplay
00:05:25.780 She's a gamer, cosplay girl
00:05:27.540 At one point, she was like
00:05:29.600 Is she still massive? 0.99
00:05:31.620 Do people still give a fuck about what she does? 1.00
00:05:33.400 Yeah, they do 1.00
00:05:34.540 So this girl at one point sold her bath water 0.72
00:05:37.660 Yeah, I remember that 1.00
00:05:38.360 And made so much fucking money 1.00
00:05:40.180 I mean, she's like a pretty girl 1.00
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00:05:45.540 Lends itself 1.00
00:05:47.180 uh to a bunch of fucking weirdos who want to drink bath water from are they drinking it 0.99
00:05:53.620 i would presume i would presume and then i would also imagine you get some sort of uh 1.00
00:05:59.680 nutritional health benefit right like yeah you're you're you're getting a little bit of
00:06:03.460 the salts and stuff right but bath salts yeah exactly that's probably why oh so she was selling
00:06:09.920 bath salt that's illegal bell delphini oh all right well look i want to play i want to play
00:06:15.560 a little bit of this
00:06:16.540 just enough
00:06:18.360 to make you want to
00:06:20.100 pound the nails 0.99
00:06:21.300 into your ears 0.65
00:06:22.400 but not enough
00:06:23.020 nothing
00:06:24.060 nothing lethal
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00:06:28.240 it got age gated
00:06:29.500 makes sense
00:06:31.460 I don't even
00:06:32.220 I don't want to sign in
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00:06:33.960 I know I'm 25 0.98
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00:06:35.600 I wish they had that 0.99
00:06:36.880 sign in to confirm
00:06:37.660 your age
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00:06:39.780 DMs 1.00
00:06:45.560 Oh, shit. 1.00
00:06:49.460 Guys, I feel like the squirtle on the table right now. 1.00
00:06:53.720 Fucking A, dude. 0.99
00:06:54.540 That's how I feel. 1.00
00:06:56.220 You hate to see it.
00:06:57.200 Long night.
00:06:57.880 We got a dope guest today. 0.99
00:06:59.820 What do you guys say we shut the fuck up and bring our guest up? 0.98
00:07:01.460 Yeah, let's do it. 0.98
00:07:02.740 Ross Edgley.
00:07:04.720 This is going to be crazy.
00:07:05.860 Wow.
00:07:06.540 Heard about this dude.
00:07:07.340 He was on Rogan.
00:07:08.500 Yeah, for episode 1200.
00:07:10.000 Because he's running across the world with logs on his back, swimming across the world,
00:07:14.100 doing biking.
00:07:15.140 why what's going on with this guy i gotta hear more dude ross edger because he does all these
00:07:20.020 crazy things i i was watching a video and how do i even do ran a marathon pulling a 1.4 ton car
00:07:26.440 the media dubbed it the world's strongest marathon he climbed the rope the height of
00:07:32.020 everest where'd they get that rope where'd they get that rope he climbed a rope he just climbed
00:07:36.900 the rope the height of mount everest ran a thousand miles barefoot in a month carrying a
00:07:41.540 50-kilogram backpack,
00:07:43.340 completed an Olympic distance trial on,
00:07:45.240 carrying a 100-pound tree,
00:07:47.500 ran 31 marathons in 31 days
00:07:49.760 on a treadmill in his kitchen,
00:07:51.700 trialing different recipes. 1.00
00:07:53.360 At what fucking point? 0.99
00:07:54.780 Look at this guy. 1.00
00:07:55.960 Swam over 100 kilometers across the Caribbean Sea,
00:07:57.840 pulling a 100-pound tree.
00:07:58.940 Swam nonstop for 48 hours at the Commando Training Center.
00:08:02.000 So this dude,
00:08:04.180 well, why don't we just have him swim?
00:08:05.440 But his biggest one is this latest one, though.
00:08:07.780 Swam 2,000 miles the entire day.
00:08:11.180 He swam around England, right?
00:08:14.080 Was that what it was?
00:08:15.400 This dude's a psychic.
00:08:16.540 You know what he should do?
00:08:17.600 He should swim around England with Belle Delphine on his back.
00:08:21.600 Whoa. 0.58
00:08:22.580 And then they could sell the water as like her bathwater. 0.93
00:08:26.440 Amazing.
00:08:27.300 Repackage it as Aunt Jemima's. 0.51
00:08:28.240 Anything in their wake.
00:08:29.040 Way strong.
00:08:29.740 You bottle it up.
00:08:30.560 Wow.
00:08:30.920 All right.
00:08:31.080 So I'm in a Zoom call.
00:08:33.880 Let's go.
00:08:34.480 Oh, we in?
00:08:35.300 I can't believe that.
00:08:35.780 Is that what?
00:08:36.580 We're here, brother.
00:08:37.700 How are you?
00:08:38.860 Mate, I'm good.
00:08:39.820 How's things?
00:08:40.480 How are you doing?
00:08:41.180 amazing amazing brother probably not as good as you
00:08:44.260 no i don't know about that ask things over there what's what's the situation at the 0.99
00:08:49.180 minute feeling good oh no nope fucked country's gone to shit uh we're all confused about the 0.99
00:08:55.500 coronavirus and america's racist so yeah but you have a horse but you have horses so that's good 1.00
00:09:02.520 two horses uh that i actually not to not to get crazy sentimental here i dropped them off at my
00:09:08.720 ranch yesterday and it was one of the best moments of my life it was it was way beautiful
00:09:16.280 we released them into the pasture they started running i looked at my beautiful girlfriend and
00:09:21.400 i was just like this is it chief this is it you're doing well like and you're winning you're winning
00:09:29.640 thank you brother i'm trying uh so i got my my co-host mike to the left of me my co-host mac to
00:09:34.660 the right of me and uh amazing the infamous legendary ross edgley we just went over some
00:09:40.940 of your uh statistics and some of the things you've done my man i don't know how are you a
00:09:44.820 human being oh you're kind no no no i'm just i've got a niche skill set like the swim i'm just good
00:09:53.120 at floating and eating honestly like that's that's my super power that's all it was it was just an
00:09:57.700 eating competition with a bit of swimming thrown in that was that was it yeah i like i like how
00:10:01.640 humble you're being right and also you know i it's it's fascinating to me how i meet these dudes 0.62
00:10:06.600 who like yo you go on this guy's instagram he's the he's the yokest dude you'll ever seen in your
00:10:11.760 life you come out here you're the nicest guy i've ever met sitting in his kitchen drinking
00:10:15.820 drinking a bit of tea no dude that's a cup of nails it's a cup of nails
00:10:19.820 so bro you so what what the last feat that you did correct me if i'm wrong it was it was the
00:10:27.020 2000 miles 2000 miles that was right that was right yeah so the swim around great britain
00:10:32.220 okay yeah so you just go to floating that was basically no it was i mean that was an idea that
00:10:38.560 went like terribly right or wrong depending on how you looked at it but um yeah it was it was
00:10:43.240 like a sportsman's bet basically uh that a friend of mine we we ended up catching up we have the
00:10:48.720 royal marines here in england and uh i basically i did a 48 hour swim just to see where i was at
00:10:54.300 in terms of training so i'm like 180 kilometers and i got out and i had like trench foot basically
00:10:59.920 so it's where your hands and your feet and everything they've just got so much moisture
00:11:03.160 in that they're they're going moldy basically and i was yeah like it was a bad bad place i'm
00:11:09.040 sitting there and i'm putting talcum powder on and i'm trying to basically like you know nurse
00:11:12.860 my wounds and then um the royal marine officers came over to me and was just like uh he said like
00:11:17.580 uh you boy he goes what are you doing and i said oh i said i'm training i'm training for the world's
00:11:23.300 longest current neutral swim which is like a swim somewhere like bermuda where it's like current
00:11:27.700 neutral it just looks me up and down he said um can i be honest with you young man i said yeah
00:11:32.740 yeah please do and he went that just sounds a bit shit i was like what do you want me to do about it 0.88
00:11:40.560 and he said me you just you just need to man up and swim around great britain so i was like all right
00:11:44.260 shook his hand and i was like i'll see you i'll see you when i get back and then i've got back
00:11:51.420 157 days later wait sorry wait whoa slow down so so you shook his hand and you just jumped in the 0.98
00:11:59.240 fucking water and swam around great brain is that what you're saying to me right now 0.98
00:12:02.700 basically so how it works is you swim like six hours on six hours off so you work with the tide 0.99
00:12:10.060 and then against the tide so it doesn't matter if the tide changes at two o'clock in the morning
00:12:13.520 or two o'clock in the afternoon like you just get in and um yeah there was times when I was
00:12:18.760 scraping like a thin layer of ice off my wetsuit before I could put it on just had to crack it
00:12:23.640 basically um also as well like you I don't know if you know but you get something called salt tongue
00:12:28.960 so that the human body is not meant to be in the water for this amount of time yeah so I'm swimming
00:12:33.640 you know 12 hours a day 157 days uh swimming swimming swimming um I remember after two weeks
00:12:39.360 the salt water takes all the moisture from your tongue it basically starts to rot uh i'm sitting
00:12:46.560 in the galley in the kitchen and and the cook's and she's made like this amazing vegetable soup
00:12:51.820 you know we're all chowing down like that and i look over to the captain and it was this vegetable
00:12:56.380 soup and i looked over and i noticed that mine had like pork or chicken in it or something and
00:13:00.760 i said how come yours hasn't got pork or chicken how come mine's just got meat in and he just
00:13:05.880 leant over into my bowl he said that's not pork or chicken that's your tongue
00:13:09.160 you know if you find yourself in a similar situation coconut oil because it lubricates
00:13:23.120 if i find myself in a situation where my tongue is now the main ingredient of a soup
00:13:28.500 i'm not gonna be asking what oil to put on i'm gonna go to the hospital bro
00:13:32.660 wait so wait so is that would you because i was going to ask you what the hardest
00:13:38.500 part of this journey was would that would would your tongue being a a a an accoutrement to a
00:13:44.420 soup be the hardest part or what so like you're right like yeah leaving parts of my tongue like
00:13:50.480 around great britain that's that wasn't pleasant but probably the worst um there's it's called
00:13:56.500 cory of beckham in scotland it's a giant whirlpool one of the biggest whirlpools in the world and uh
00:14:01.440 they were like, look, you know, ships have gone down. People have lost their lives. This is no
00:14:05.420 joke. Like you swim and you swim hard. So I was like, all right, cool. No worries. I'm swimming
00:14:09.360 like that. And as I swim, I'm looking at my watch and I'm checking, I've got to swim for six hours
00:14:12.740 through this giant whirlpool. So I'm swimming, I'm swimming. As I'm going through like that,
00:14:16.580 I get stung by a jellyfish. They've got these giant jellyfish in Scotland, about five meters
00:14:20.540 long. Wow. Bad. Like just like the best way I can describe it to you is like, imagine someone's
00:14:27.660 got a hot poker and they're just pressing it against your face because it was it was at night
00:14:31.260 as well so i couldn't even see i actually have the picture here i opened up the the brief that
00:14:35.300 you guys sent me and by the way great brief great brief dude the the um file titles are hilarious
00:14:42.360 15 000 calories a day arm of jellyfish to face giant jellyfish swimming in poo salt took swimming
00:14:49.820 in poo yeah shout shout out to the guys over edge foot shout out to the guys at gym shark for putting
00:14:54.160 that together because they did a great job on that ross this is this jellyfish is bigger than me
00:14:59.380 oh you've got it there you can see it now look at it right now this is huge right so so it was
00:15:04.920 one of those basically lion's mane and like it basically when you're swimming at night you know
00:15:10.040 you can get one of those like it's you just get like there's no other way to describe you just
00:15:13.720 basically motorboat a jellyfish just smack straight to the face i'm swimming i'm swimming
00:15:18.860 through the courier decking but i can't stop because it's a giant whirlpool so i'm swimming
00:15:22.380 as hard as I can and this jellyfish thing this one in particular it just won't go away like I
00:15:27.080 said it's like someone's pushing a hot poker onto your face I'm swimming I'm swimming for another
00:15:31.540 three hours I stop and I'm like I'm dribbling because my face is now paralyzed and I turned
00:15:36.040 to Matt the captain I said Matt I said I'm so sorry I said I need to stop I said I've been
00:15:40.680 stung by a jellyfish and I said the pain it won't go away oh no he looked he looked down at me from
00:15:45.420 the boat and he just said yes I know is it still wrapped around your face I've been wearing a
00:15:53.080 jellyfish through the Corrie Beckham through this whirlpool is that and then I how is that how is
00:15:59.240 that something you miss I because I couldn't stop Logan if I stopped I would have been pulled down
00:16:05.280 into the whirlpool so I just I couldn't couldn't stop so I'm swimming it's a tricky situation I
00:16:09.420 turn around I I mean I won't repeat what I said I pulled away the tentacle threw it away and then
00:16:14.740 my face had been stung so bad it changed shape i looked like you know the elephant man and then
00:16:20.420 my goggles wouldn't fit back on my face so i had to punch them into my eye socket i have the video
00:16:25.880 here. Hold on, hold on.
00:16:27.500 That is not pleasant.
00:16:31.840 It absolutely teabagged me.
00:16:34.400 It teabagged me.
00:16:35.300 I'm getting the hang of this whole day pretty soon, Mark,
00:16:37.380 and then just when I think I've got this whole thing figured out,
00:16:39.900 jellyfish. 0.99
00:16:42.980 Yeah, I love how you just got fucked in the face by a jellyfish 1.00
00:16:46.020 and you're making jokes about it. 1.00
00:16:47.580 What is this place
00:16:49.780 in Scotland? Because
00:16:50.940 you're telling me there's a whirlpool,
00:16:53.800 there's giant jellyfish, and I believe
00:16:55.780 is this the same area that the Loch Ness Monster supposedly resides in as well yeah so similar so
00:17:01.420 that's a lot of that's inland so yeah that all it all exists up there you've got basking sharks
00:17:06.900 we we had orcas as well I remember we got a phone call from a marine biologist and they said oh just
00:17:12.300 checking is is that guy still swimming around Great Britain oh yeah and they went okay so we've
00:17:18.720 got good and bad news and they were like we've just seen a pod of orcas so they were like saying
00:17:23.340 the good news is there's never been a reported case of an orca uh fatality in in the wild like
00:17:29.500 they're so intelligent they know that you're not a seal so they know you're not on the menu
00:17:33.360 but they were like but with that said if they're going to eat anyone it's probably ross because
00:17:37.300 he's spending like 157 days in the sea just statistically exactly yeah and then they were
00:17:43.360 like just try to look less like a seal and i was like bulked up at that point i was like how do
00:17:48.440 look less like so i'm swimming avoiding jellyfish and now orcas thinking like this is a terrible
00:17:55.940 way to spend that summer i uh i commend you because i i'm one of the people that can't 0.98
00:18:02.560 swim in deep water because because of stuff like that like orcas ah no no i'm not gonna fuck with 0.64
00:18:08.820 those but but the thing is and this is what i've been so keen to chat to you guys about 0.94
00:18:13.920 like since coming back on land and everyone said like you know why did you do it I think what's
00:18:18.580 been so good you know Mike you mentioned Gymshark one thing that's so good we've been speaking to
00:18:23.320 like the sports psychiatrist there almost trying to figure out like what was going on inside my
00:18:27.500 own head and one thing that if you look back through history as humans we've always been
00:18:33.160 going on these pilgrimages these these like you know I call it an okugaki I lived with some
00:18:38.180 Japanese monks in them. We basically Yamabushi monks. You go on a pilgrimage out there, you do
00:18:44.140 a marathon a day in the mountains and you meditate under ice cold waterfalls. And the reason you do
00:18:49.160 this is it's kind of like Einstein adversity introduces you to you. You know, you realize
00:18:53.560 this honest version of yourself, you remove your ego because you're just absolutely battered
00:18:57.660 physically and mentally. I think the reason I want to chat to you guys and Logan specifically
00:19:01.800 with the with the boxing i think for you at the time watching that whole journey a lot of people
00:19:08.300 like why is he doing he's got all this money he doesn't have to do it you know mike similarly as
00:19:12.020 well when you just had like a really cool job successful at marketing why uproot and move
00:19:15.720 there's this idea of going on a pilgrimage an okugaki that you know even looking at maasai
00:19:22.380 warriors going out and hunting a lion you know the aborigines go and walk about it's a rite of
00:19:26.600 passage right i suppose i wanted to ask did you feel something similar because a lot of people
00:19:30.640 like why swim around great britain and i'm like why not we've been doing it through history
00:19:34.760 have you experienced something like in a weird way did you get that uh yeah absolutely but
00:19:40.000 the things that i've done um i feel like are dwarfed by the the feats that you've accomplished
00:19:46.360 because you're really pushing yourself from what it seems anyways to to the brink
00:19:51.660 like right up to the edge of of what you're capable of and i'm not even sure if that's true
00:19:56.860 but for me i love chaos i love throwing myself in environments that are going to make me
00:20:02.260 uncomfortable stuff i'm not good at and then i love the idea of growth if you can if you can
00:20:08.000 always leave room to be better and gain a skill improve in some capacity i think your life is
00:20:14.380 going to be uh fulfilling for the entire time and that's what happened with boxing it was just a new
00:20:20.500 challenge to to overcome and it changed my life like i found out and discovered so much about
00:20:25.300 myself as a human like what you said is is you you beat the shit out of yourself you put yourself
00:20:31.140 mentally and physically through these insane challenges and you just strip off the layers
00:20:35.380 so the first one to go is ego for me every time i do uh physical like i we did a at the beginning
00:20:41.720 of the year what was it like a 72 hour marine oh yeah army challenge yeah and uh the first one to 0.88
00:20:47.800 go is the ego because me you know i got big fucking mouth i'm always like i can do anything 0.77
00:20:52.560 i'm the fucking most baddest and i'm not and uh so then ego and then it's like uh humility and you 0.91
00:21:00.720 discover who you really are in the face of adversity yeah that's exactly that but even 0.97
00:21:06.480 looking at like and this gets a bit deep but when you start looking at like aristotle when he starts
00:21:10.040 talking about eudaimonia you know this idea because they believed the ancient greeks were like
00:21:14.880 happiness is a bad word because it kind of just means that you should be happy with no suffering
00:21:20.220 no labor you shouldn't have to struggle to get there whereas with eudaimonia aristotle used this
00:21:24.800 term because he's like no you know you need to earn it there should be struggle there should be
00:21:28.540 like some form of suffering to get there it's this idea that right now if you know you were handed a
00:21:33.260 million pounds you'd probably be happy you'd be like wicked i've got a million pounds but it's
00:21:37.080 not eudaimonia and it's this whole idea aristotle said that you know happiness without fulfillment
00:21:42.260 is failure and it's one thing that i've always found that you know with everything that i've
00:21:47.500 done when i've done uh you know swam for 157 days around great britain um i did a a triathlon
00:21:53.300 with a 100 pound tree on my back yeah uh raising loads for charity we know we know
00:21:58.640 yeah there's this but that was it was i was in pursuit of eudaimonia and i think it's so
00:22:03.480 interesting that you just said exactly what you did where you were suffering i mean i'm a massive
00:22:07.200 fan of the the podcast and i loved uh ryan garcia of a gym athlete obviously but um also chuck liddell
00:22:14.100 and drawing a comparison between what those two said.
00:22:17.220 When you said to Chuck, why did you do it?
00:22:19.620 Was it the money?
00:22:20.260 Was it fame?
00:22:20.860 You were huge at the time.
00:22:21.600 And he just said, I just love fighting.
00:22:24.060 It was the process.
00:22:25.380 It was eudaimonia.
00:22:26.100 It was intrinsic motivation
00:22:28.180 where the process is its own reward.
00:22:30.440 Absolutely.
00:22:31.300 And Brian said something similar.
00:22:32.240 The most successful people we've talked to on this show
00:22:34.800 iterate that same idea.
00:22:36.660 And I preach this all the time.
00:22:39.140 Like happiness is not a destination.
00:22:41.180 It is a journey.
00:22:42.480 It is an ever-changing quest.
00:22:44.100 And I don't love the idea of trying to find happiness.
00:22:49.460 If you can do these little accomplishments and complete tasks in your life, both through struggle and failure specifically, you're going to come out that much more well-rounded of a person.
00:23:01.960 That is exactly it.
00:23:02.880 And that's one thing as well.
00:23:04.000 I think that whole idea of, you know, intrinsic and extrinsic motivation that, you know, on the
00:23:09.280 swim, I remember coming back down the other side of Scotland, just thinking, like, if I finish this
00:23:13.860 and no one's there, there's like the media don't care. There's, there's, you know, there's no
00:23:17.960 records. No one, no one cares. It's just like my mom, my dad, my girlfriend, we have a pizza. Like,
00:23:21.840 would that be okay? And for me, I was just like, yeah, I just want to be a weird old man who goes
00:23:28.160 anywhere on the coast in Great Britain now and just stands there in my trunk going, I swam around
00:23:32.740 there that's so sick you know yeah and so and i think sometimes identifying that before you go on
00:23:41.320 the journey is so important because when you started boxing you know you were like am i doing
00:23:47.260 this for the right reasons and there's no right or wrong reason yeah but i think if you say i'm
00:23:51.800 doing it for money i'm doing it for gold medals i know a lot of my friends who were olympians who
00:23:55.700 were just like i'm just doing it for a gold medal i don't care i don't even like the sport i'm doing
00:23:59.520 for gold medal. I'm like, cool. As long as you know that, but don't, but, and I love what you
00:24:04.040 said, remove the ego. Don't lie to yourself because when you're there getting punched in
00:24:07.540 the face, when you're swimming around and your tongue's falling off and you've got jellyfish
00:24:10.340 like two bagging you and wet willy and you in the ear, you know, you're doing an intrinsic,
00:24:15.780 extrinsic. Ross, you seem like a very philosophical man. What are you thinking about when you're on
00:24:20.180 these challenges? Do you know, do you know what? Like that's what's strange in that I think every
00:24:27.560 single tide and every single day you can use something different it's almost like you know
00:24:31.980 changing the channel on your head you know that you've got to find a new uh something that's quite
00:24:36.540 potent you know some thought that's going to take you away and you can just think about it again you
00:24:41.020 guys know you know sparring running anything where you're just in that hurt locker but i think what
00:24:45.300 was interesting for me is sometimes if you look at maslow's hierarchy of needs so maslow's hierarchy
00:24:51.620 this idea of a pyramid and at the base of that pyramid you've got your physiological needs so
00:24:56.620 food water warmth sleep you know you're basically like a caveman there at the base as you move up
00:25:02.200 you've got your social needs so you've got kind of like friends family connections as you move up
00:25:06.580 even further you've got prestige a feeling of accomplishment you know job security and then as
00:25:11.960 you move up at the very top you've got self-actualization which is this idea of being
00:25:15.800 like the best version of you and for me it was weird because i would like basically go up and
00:25:21.400 down this all the time in that sometimes you know you could say to me oh ross self-actualization
00:25:26.920 you know this is amazing you know intrinsic motivation and i'll be like yes that's that's
00:25:31.160 amazing but other times i'm sitting there my tongue's falling off i like literally don't care
00:25:36.980 about like any of those higher purposes i'm here i'm at the base of the pyramid i'm thinking i
00:25:42.820 want to sleep i want food and i want to still have a tongue when this finishes like i'm there
00:25:47.700 Did you live, did you live in that spot the whole time? Cause I've never obviously done anything at
00:25:53.480 the, at the same level as you, but as a, as an endurance athlete in cycling, I've always found
00:25:59.140 that, that time that you spend in, uh, uh, in that exercise can actually be really fluid for
00:26:06.300 your mind. And you actually have great, there's been so many times where I've been on the bike
00:26:09.440 at mile 60 mile 70 mile 80, where I'm like, I have to pull over and write this down right now.
00:26:13.900 did you ever get those blasts of uh um ideation or concept and you're like yo i need to tell
00:26:20.340 somebody this right now a hundred percent and i think we've lost that a little bit like plato
00:26:25.280 talks about it you know plato although he influenced western philosophy as you know it
00:26:29.320 today plato his name that was his nickname it meant broad shoulders he was a great wrestler
00:26:33.820 and i think we've lost that that like i love what you just said there because it's this idea of
00:26:38.980 being a scholar athlete and i forget who said this now and i'm going to kind of butcher this
00:26:43.300 it wasn't Plato but they said um the the problem with society is that too often if you have your
00:26:50.060 fighting done by soldiers and your thinking done by uh politicians you have your fighting done by 0.99
00:26:55.420 idiots and your thinking done by cowards you know it was this idea you need to use the two 1.00
00:27:00.400 you need to be a scholar athlete you know and that was one thing that I think I found that I did some 1.00
00:27:05.680 of my best writing around Great Britain because I was left alone with my own thoughts for 12 hours
00:27:11.480 a day that's that's powerful it's so that is so powerful yeah i think people highly underestimate
00:27:17.240 the uh the power of their own minds like maybe people are fearful of uh how how strong their
00:27:24.660 mental capacity truly is like what's that one quote uh our greatest fear is not that we are
00:27:30.120 inadequate it's that we're powerful beyond measure um and i've been trying to find more time to
00:27:37.160 be alone and and sit and rest with my thoughts because agree like there's there's so much that
00:27:42.840 goes on in your own brain and you can pull so much just out of you and once you do that and
00:27:47.080 you're on like the fourth rung of the hierarchy of needs and self-actualization I think that's
00:27:53.060 I think that's a crucial part of discovering out who you are and who the best version of yourself
00:27:56.700 is 100% and it goes to some weird places I mean also to come back to that question what I thought
00:28:01.840 about sometimes when swimming I think what would get weird is I actually not not sound morbid but
00:28:06.720 I started to research prisoners of war and how they were coping.
00:28:10.640 And there was this one mechanism that was called the Stockdale paradox.
00:28:14.000 Admiral Stockdale basically was a prisoner of war for seven years in Vietnam, tortured,
00:28:18.580 horrific conditions, but never gave up any intel or anything.
00:28:21.780 And afterwards, when they said, like, how did you survive?
00:28:25.280 Like, everyone else was crumbling around you.
00:28:27.380 You remained so stoic and strong.
00:28:29.340 How did you do it?
00:28:30.760 And he just said, you know what?
00:28:32.500 He could see the people coming in who would crumble.
00:28:35.200 he could literally he would point at them go he's not going to make it and they said why and he said
00:28:40.000 because it's this kind of dual thought process he said you cannot lose sight of hope like you will
00:28:45.800 be out this will be over it will finish but equally at the same time you have to face up to
00:28:51.080 your current reality and it's this dual approach that you know everybody listening can experience
00:28:56.100 if you're running you've got to think okay this will be over your legs will stop hurting at some
00:29:00.040 point the same when I was swimming I was up Margate which is where my finish was it will
00:29:03.880 finish and i will eventually swim around great britain there's hope but equally my current
00:29:08.480 reality is you know i've got a jellyfish on my face and i've got i've got a face up to that
00:29:13.500 yeah and it's and too often and this is what stockdale said he said you had these optimists
00:29:18.260 who just came in they were like we'll be out by christmas christmas would come christmas would go
00:29:23.100 they'd be crushed we'll be out by easter you know it's going to be over the war's going to be over
00:29:26.540 gone and they'd slowly break down whereas stockdale was just like hey look as long as this
00:29:31.880 takes is i'm here it will be over but i'm also in my current reality and so that's one thing as
00:29:39.040 well that i i mean my girlfriend's amazing i've been with her seven years and she basically saw
00:29:44.280 her boyfriend she would come on every sort of few weeks and just see me getting hairier
00:29:48.640 like fatter um i was like you know i obviously i couldn't stop as well when i was swimming so i was 0.51
00:29:55.020 just going to the toilet in my wetsuit so i was just like you know i smelled i smelled well piss 0.64
00:30:00.260 that's why i just pissed myself i have a picture of you after your one year at sea 0.98
00:30:06.320 oh my god damn a weathered man you look like a uh salt field i look like a chubby santa claus 0.95
00:30:16.220 like a salty circle but you see what i mean now so my girlfriend saw me now and then you know 0.99
00:30:23.200 that was what i finished with she's like who is this guy who is this guy ross is that you
00:30:27.800 this is smelling of urine as well that that was how i rocked out of the sea so you think about
00:30:34.080 these things of like you know you have these epiphanies and these romantic ideals but no that
00:30:39.000 was that was my current reality and i love how we've talked about this idea of like sometimes
00:30:43.380 it's not a romantic ideal swimming around but no like it's suffering it's eudaimonia that that's
00:30:49.140 what eudaimonia looks like as scary as it is to look at my two uh and again not to not to compare
00:30:57.480 But, uh, my two things that I go to when I'm trying to escape, maybe escape isn't the right
00:31:04.720 word, but, uh, forego the reality of whatever shit storm I'm going through is I'll, I'll
00:31:11.340 really try to separate my mind from my body, whether it's, uh, you know, a 10 minute ice 0.93
00:31:16.600 bath, whether it's the four hours of boxing training, the 10 mile jogs, um, I try to
00:31:24.060 visualize why I'm doing it.
00:31:26.320 Did you ever do that?
00:31:27.280 like when i'm when i'm running on the treadmill when i'm running on a track and it's pitch black
00:31:31.220 the lights are off and it's me and mac and the only ones are on the track on like a friday night
00:31:35.800 i go why am i doing this and i i kept picturing um my hand getting raised in the boxing match
00:31:41.840 my hand getting raised and and my opponent crumpling to the floor and all my dreams coming
00:31:46.000 true and none of them did i i argue with that i think they did though i think you got from i i
00:31:55.680 think you got from the whole boxing thing that what you wanted i think with retrospect you've
00:32:00.220 looked at it now it's been great to see your journey but i think you got everything you wanted
00:32:03.220 for sure regardless of the outcome for sure and that's and that's what i think is important and
00:32:06.820 people sometimes i think that was one thing on the swim when people go when will you finish will
00:32:12.040 it be 100 days and i was like it's it's you have to get philosophical about it you're like i'll
00:32:16.900 finish when mother nature lets me finish you know i'll and i think it was the same with you that
00:32:20.900 success probably looked very different now to what you thought it would yeah you got what you wanted
00:32:25.500 oh yeah well because yo you train for this thing and you come up short technically is life over
00:32:32.520 or did you is that is that a win and it turned out just like time and time again
00:32:37.940 your failures are going to be the biggest wins in your life in retrospect like we you know i'm sure
00:32:45.100 you've learned much more from the times you didn't make it around great britain oh 100 oh there's
00:32:50.260 been some oh you're right look i'm glad you asked it because there's been some awful ones i remember
00:32:53.640 i tried to swim uh from martinique to saint lucia so between two caribbean islands with a tree
00:32:58.940 attached to my trunk we were raising money for charity how do you come up with this stuff man
00:33:03.500 ross ross i want i gotta ask you too because i asked this before the show how how do you choose
00:33:11.380 which tree because like is it like christ is it like christmas tree hunting where you're like dad
00:33:16.440 i want that like how do you say this is the tree i want to swim 80 000 miles with no it's
00:33:23.540 good so there's different obviously different trees and then like so you're looking at buoyancy
00:33:27.220 but also it's kind of drag so you want it to be nice but sometimes if you get it to be like too
00:33:31.860 much like a missile there's times when I was swimming and I would basically like cruise over
00:33:36.480 a wave and dip under it but if I did that I'd know that there's now a hundred pound tree
00:33:41.000 basically like coming for me and sometimes it would sometimes it would overtake me which is
00:33:46.520 the best case scenario but other times I mean it caught me between the legs it took off my
00:33:50.940 toenails at one point it just went bang big trees there's like a science to it yeah no there is no
00:33:58.740 there is genuine if you're if honestly if you if you guys are ever in england you want to come and
00:34:02.780 do a triathlon i will find you all is that is there a term did you coin that triathlon i mean
00:34:09.060 yeah that was that was the first triathlon it was the world's first triathlon you got your own terms
00:34:15.420 now ross ross how do you come up with your your next challenge like what's the what's the thought
00:34:19.760 process how do you decide do you know again i'm actually glad you asked just because i think
00:34:24.780 there's always been an element of doing it for charity and i've always loved that
00:34:27.740 i think with the gb swim like so swimming around great britain it was it was slightly different in
00:34:33.640 that i grew up with my granddad and my dad like telling me stories of captain webb and so for
00:34:37.840 those who don't know um 1875 and they said you cannot swim across the english channel they were
00:34:42.620 like just can't be done the water's too cold tides are too strong can't be done but captain
00:34:47.160 Webb who was a navy officer you know at the time was just like no no no like hold my beer and he
00:34:52.000 just rocks on down to Dover in England looks across to France and this is the bit that I love
00:34:57.640 on a diet of beef broth and brandy in a woolen wetsuit he just smashed breaststroke all the way
00:35:03.600 across because at the time front crawl was ungentlemanly like so he just did that smack
00:35:07.620 just nailing like brandy and beef broth did it in something like 26 hours I believe the current
00:35:13.880 records like six or five so that's you know took him 26 hours just smash like everyone going it
00:35:18.900 can't be done it can't be done but he just crushed it all the way across don't drink and swim is what
00:35:23.240 they say that idea that it was like it was it was my captain webb moment you know it was like it was
00:35:39.440 like long after i'm gone i just like that my grandchildren great-grandchildren will be like
00:35:43.020 look did you know what my nutty great granddad but but now it's changed and I think now like I
00:35:50.620 realize that I want to do something for a higher purpose I think you know what you guys are doing
00:35:55.200 I'm not just saying everything that's going on in America right now with what you're doing with
00:35:58.940 your platform's amazing and I love that you're doing something for a higher purpose and I think
00:36:02.040 I'm almost searching for that in some ways that Maslow's hierarchy I'm at the top so we have some
00:36:07.740 weird meetings at gym shark now where i'm there going you know guys like you know get me a cause
00:36:13.540 i'll put my goggles on and i'll just go and like motorboat jellyfish again so right now we're
00:36:20.640 throwing around some ideas um but it's changed basically is what i'm saying because there was
00:36:24.740 like i said before i make no bones about it it was just like raw marine officers going swimming
00:36:30.760 around bermuda shit swim around great britain and i was like fine you know so it's changed a little 0.90
00:36:35.760 bit yeah i think we'd all love to uh get involved with whatever you do next uh i mean this this 0.80
00:36:42.400 stuff is fascinating i'm just like reading some of the stuff you did and ran a marathon pulling
00:36:47.040 a 1.4 ton car we talked about the you climbed the rope the height of mount everest like
00:36:52.180 yeah at what point at what at what point why why so that was actually i mean the the the uh the
00:37:03.180 car marathon that was that was weird that came around because um i we were basically sitting
00:37:08.060 around with loads of my friends my friend who's fine now but he was diagnosed with cancer at the
00:37:11.440 time and for those who don't know in england if you were diagnosed with cancer as a teenager you
00:37:15.880 were basically treated in the children's ward or the elderly ward so you were kind of robbed of
00:37:20.100 your teenage years whereas the teenage cancer trust is amazing and they build these specialist
00:37:24.000 wards um they did that for my friend and i just wanted to do something to give back so i was like
00:37:29.000 look like why don't we you know i'll run a marathon and then everyone's like oh it's been
00:37:33.120 done and then people like run two marathons i've been done and then someone's like run 31 in 31
00:37:38.500 days put a car oh that was yeah he's like oh yeah i did that too but the rope the rope climb i mean
00:37:47.580 that was for the teenage cancer that was horrendous i talk about that a little bit um but it was it
00:37:51.940 was actually i am oh this is a horrible story but my hands because 19 hours of climbing a rope my
00:37:58.980 hands were like that they were like claws and I just lost all the skin on my hands like that so
00:38:03.620 I was but I really needed to go to the toilet so I ended up going to this port-a-loo type thing
00:38:08.520 those portable like loos and I was I was in there but I couldn't actually fold the toilet paper once
00:38:13.720 I'd been to essentially wipe my own bombs I'm sitting in there and I can't even pull my trousers
00:38:20.040 up and then god bless him this old guy in the the toilet next to me just said are you all right in
00:38:26.480 there young man you know can i give you a hand and i said like mate i'm so sorry dude 0.79
00:38:30.320 i said i can't wipe my own bum i said i've been i've been climbing this road for charity and he
00:38:38.300 just was like no problem and then with that it went deadly silent it went deadly no no no it's
00:38:43.460 not as bad as you think and then he ended up folding the toilet paper and posting it under 0.59
00:38:49.020 the thing so i could actually no no i thought i had to like he didn't wipe my bum
00:38:53.400 so so there's but again you know that that sense afterwards of just with all of those stories one
00:39:04.240 it's nice to sit around and obviously you know chat to you guys about it but to to do it for a
00:39:08.280 higher purpose that we know that there's going to be times when we're old we're all sitting in
00:39:12.040 rocking chairs and our bodies will have like they won't be capable of this stuff yeah that's me
00:39:15.920 right now man that's me right now ross yeah we're right about the same age actually he's a little
00:39:22.580 bit younger i looked it up on the way at ross there's one year younger one year look at the
00:39:27.000 difference between you and him hey we both got big smiles on our face right that's all that matters
00:39:33.640 hey ross selfishly i'm curious there's been one marathon that was not listed on this uh
00:39:39.920 on this gymshark pdf and one that doesn't get talked about very much when it comes to marathons
00:39:44.100 but you wrote a book the art of resilience which is a marathon in its own right and i i guess i
00:39:51.280 guess selfishly as an author myself I'm curious as to what that marathon was like for you and how
00:39:56.220 it compared oh bless you got it oh guys oh yeah we got it we got it do you know what I think was
00:40:02.600 so good and Mike like you'll relate to this but this whole idea of doing something and then
00:40:06.620 retrospectively you're trying to reverse engineer and deconstruct it so exactly with everything that
00:40:11.780 you've been through in your life and now your book you're trying to make sense of it retrospectively
00:40:16.080 And that was kind of the same that when people were saying, like, how did you continue?
00:40:21.440 You know, I was like, I don't know.
00:40:22.820 At the time, I was just doing it.
00:40:24.380 But now what's so nice in the book is just kind of just to say there was nothing special about me.
00:40:29.980 Like these mechanisms and strategies that we're talking about now are available to all of us.
00:40:35.500 Yes.
00:40:35.880 And even the greatest adventurers, like, and it sounds weird, but like food became such a big factor.
00:40:42.000 This idea of food being such a motivator that, you know, you'd be thinking, oh, we've got pizza, we've got ice cream on the boat.
00:40:49.060 There was a story about Shackleton, one of the greatest explorers to ever exist.
00:40:53.440 And him and his men, when their endurance, their boat went down, there was a story about how to boost morale.
00:41:01.880 He kept a Christmas pudding in his sock.
00:41:05.920 And then, you know, at the time when everyone was like really hanging and they were like, look, we're really in trouble.
00:41:10.420 just whips out this Christmas pudding was like we there we go boys just lifted morale so there's
00:41:16.520 there's you know there was these strategies that looking back and the Stockdale paradox
00:41:20.240 um but equally sometimes and I call it like the science of a smile like it's only just now that
00:41:25.860 we're understanding how your cognitive health and well-being will impact on performance and also
00:41:30.440 your immune system you know immune biological markers yeah and again looking back at performance
00:41:37.000 there was a study done, I think it was Frontiers of Neuroscience, Journal of Frontiers of
00:41:42.460 Neuroscience, where they talked about, they had cyclists, and again, you'll get this with your
00:41:46.880 background, but cycling to complete exhaustion. And as they did this, they showed them small
00:41:51.880 subliminal cues. So subliminal meaning it barely registered on a conscious level. And they showed
00:41:56.180 them either pictures of people smiling or frowning. And what they did after this, they found
00:42:00.680 emphatically that those people who were shown these like subliminal, working on a completely
00:42:05.380 subconscious level pictures of people smiling were actually going further and had a greater
00:42:10.200 resistance to fatigue than those who were frowning and it's just something now that looking at um
00:42:15.760 cheerfulness in the face of adversity that's a motto with the british royal marines but also
00:42:20.260 as well even looking at like the navy seals when they start talking about you know the 40 percent
00:42:24.060 rule you know that when you're absolutely done and you think you can't go on actually you're
00:42:28.820 only at 40 you know so there's all these strategies that we talk about in the book that at any given
00:42:32.960 time use it and if it doesn't work if the 40 rule doesn't work for you science of a smile if that
00:42:38.320 doesn't work there's something else that doesn't work yeah and so it was probably a cathartic
00:42:42.920 process for you to to go back through the events slowly and methodically and scientifically because
00:42:48.700 similarly to what you said when i had the opportunity to write my book and everybody
00:42:53.160 had questions how did you do it how did you get out of this cycle of this and cycle of that
00:42:56.920 i would always say the same thing i don't know i kind of just did it but then when it came time
00:43:02.580 to sit back down and write the story.
00:43:05.060 It gave me hours and hours and hundreds of hours
00:43:07.940 to sit and think what tactics did I actually use
00:43:12.300 to get it done?
00:43:13.340 And to touch on the science of the smile,
00:43:15.580 we talk about that on this show a lot.
00:43:17.580 We've been talking about that forever.
00:43:19.080 If you simply look at the way others treat you
00:43:23.280 in a very micro moment based on the expression on your face,
00:43:27.800 a smile will 10 times out of 10 get you a better
00:43:32.120 or more beneficial reaction than a than a frown or a straight face 100 yeah even even recently
00:43:39.320 with kipchoge with the sub two hour marathon and i don't know if you saw that but they said you know
00:43:43.420 it's really weird that when most athletes really start struggling he had this almost like you know
00:43:48.400 smile on his face and again actually i love kipchoge because when you speak to him before
00:43:53.960 the sub two hour marathon everyone was going are you going to do it like are you going to do it
00:43:57.320 are you going to break the record what will it mean to make history you know think of the money
00:44:00.140 that you're going to make sponsorship and i love that he turned around and he just went my job is
00:44:04.720 to run a beautiful race and if that's under two hours then great but if not then that's fine as
00:44:10.200 well so he was always going to win because his goal was just intrinsic it was to run a beautiful
00:44:14.920 race so afterwards when everyone was oh he'd just be like it doesn't matter but that that same
00:44:20.280 concept and the other one that i talk about in the book actually is emil zatepec so not enough
00:44:25.540 people know about him in my opinion the greatest endurance runner to ever exist three gold medals
00:44:29.700 helsinki olympics um but one thing about emil's aspect he came from a military background
00:44:34.040 and um this one blows my mind as well like you guys will understand this with your athletic
00:44:38.360 background he used to run a hundred four hundred meter sprints as intervals the next time you go
00:44:44.500 to an athletics track just look and think yeah that hundred with like 30 seconds rest in between
00:44:50.260 wait i'm sorry i think i think i heard this wrong what'd you say a hunt a hundred four hundred
00:44:55.260 meter shot though he was a marathon essentially sprinted a marathon for intervals you know so
00:45:01.480 it's this like people at the time as well said like we didn't know the human body could actually
00:45:05.280 go like that they were like that's just over training they didn't know you could work that
00:45:08.340 hard but emil zatopec as well you've got to think military background and this is what i love as
00:45:12.400 well intrinsically motivated that people don't understand his wife was an amazing javelin for
00:45:17.360 her and date night for them she would basically go out and just be pinging this javelin and he'd
00:45:22.640 run and go and get it like a dog chasing a stick and be like there you go babe and she's just like
00:45:26.940 hanging it like this so he just he did it for the love yeah but my final story with Zatapex sorry
00:45:33.520 just to wind up was um when he won three gold medals at the Helsinki Olympics um he'd never
00:45:39.140 run a marathon before in his life not a full marathon and he'd won uh the five thousand ten
00:45:44.140 thousand I believe and then he turned to his coach and he said um he goes hey uh he goes I think I
00:45:48.860 run marathon tomorrow and his coach was just like no but you've never run a marathon before and he
00:45:54.200 goes no he goes it's okay it's okay and there's this documentary and i need i'll have to send it
00:45:58.920 to you guys it's amazing i mean emil has since you know died and there's a british guy who
00:46:03.160 narrates who was racing against him the british guy was widely tipped to win
00:46:07.000 and emil zatterpeck turned to his coach and he goes no no no he goes it's fine i'm not doing
00:46:11.980 anything tomorrow anyway he goes what i do he goes he goes what i do he goes who is who's the best
00:46:17.920 and then his coach was like okay he's pretty good the british guy everyone thinks he's gonna win
00:46:22.860 and emil's at a peck he goes okay he goes brilliant brilliant he goes what i do is i run with him i
00:46:27.480 run with him he said paste and then at the end i go boop and i run around and i win
00:46:31.140 like that and then we're like but that makes no sense he goes it's okay it's okay so he starts
00:46:36.860 running and then it cuts to the documentary there's a british guy and he's sitting there
00:46:40.420 And he goes, I was running, I was running,
00:46:43.360 and everything was going well up until this point
00:46:46.620 where I saw a shadow on my shoulder.
00:46:49.280 I turned, and I looked, and it was Emil.
00:46:53.120 I said to him, I said, what are you doing?
00:46:55.800 And Emil is at about, he turns to me, he goes,
00:46:57.760 excuse me, he goes, I don't want to interrupt.
00:47:01.040 I've never run marathon before, so I don't know.
00:47:03.860 Is this taste good or bad?
00:47:05.760 And the British guy goes, hi, hi.
00:47:09.740 you know he's old now and he goes you know and i'll be honest with you i thought to myself at 0.99
00:47:13.140 the time you little fuck you know i'm gonna stitch you up here and he says he goes oh no 0.98
00:47:21.000 because this is this is far too uh far too slow the the pack's gonna catch us up we're in real 0.99
00:47:26.160 trouble emil and then with that emil's that effect just goes okay no problem i will finish and see
00:47:30.980 you at the finish line and he just left left him my my the point that i love about that story is if
00:47:38.340 you turn up on the start line with a dude like that who just loves it he just loves it he's not
00:47:43.600 getting up on a sunday dragging his heels he just wants to go run yeah and that for me is a ryan
00:47:50.220 garcia it's a chuck liddell yeah somebody who is going i just i just love it i just you know money
00:47:56.380 i just i just love it i love the process yeah and that's why i love that story that is that's the
00:48:01.080 sweet spot is what you just described it's that perfect balance between finding that thing that
00:48:05.340 you love and the thing that's gonna that's gonna make money or uh help you achieve your goals
00:48:10.920 whatever it is that's i i try to tell people all the time if you can monetize the thing that you're
00:48:17.760 good at or at least that you you see yourself being able to become become good at if you have
00:48:23.320 potential in it that's gonna be that's gonna be the golden the golden area but my question to you
00:48:27.860 is this because i heard you say earlier uh it was something along the lines of you're just like
00:48:33.560 everyone else you really think that because because because i may push back a little bit and
00:48:38.800 say there might be some some biological advantages that you may may or may not have i'm not making
00:48:46.460 assumptions about your biology biological makeup no i like genuinely i i think that um they say
00:48:54.120 that training is the realization of your genetic potential so i definitely think that you have
00:48:58.320 you know a genetic predisposition to be good at something right you know so with me you know i've
00:49:03.040 always been quite good at swimming but there was things like you know i was putting away 15 000
00:49:07.260 calories on the gb swim so oh it was amazing it was amazing i'm jealous what were you eating uh 0.87
00:49:14.180 real quick not all it was healthy right there's a lot of junk food like just shit right is exactly
00:49:19.420 it i mean when we got to scotland that was where in dunbar a town there they do uh battered mars
00:49:23.780 bars a battered chocolate deep fried yeah yeah so i was swimming past there and the people of
00:49:29.580 scotland are amazing they heard that i needed 15 000 calories so i'm swimming i thought i was like
00:49:34.040 tripping like sleep deprived or something i saw this scottish guy on a jet ski with a bin bag
00:49:38.440 yeah so i was like mate dude thanks i smashed six of them so yeah no it was it was but also
00:49:46.100 as well it was like what i could tolerate with my tongue so the real record was was 649 bananas
00:49:51.600 that was my total of bananas for the whole so much potassium but at that at that point it doesn't
00:49:58.460 even really matter what you eat like you could eat 100 battered mars bars 52 cheeseburgers a
00:50:04.080 bunch of fish and chips if if that's what you want it didn't matter you were still gonna walk 0.96
00:50:08.440 out with with abs of fucking steel dude well that was what was weird though i mean i genuinely 0.96
00:50:13.900 didn't like by the end because i needed to put on sea bulk as well you know because it was getting 0.97
00:50:17.580 colder it was getting winter i got i got caught in an arctic storm coming from iceland you know
00:50:22.500 why not right yeah yes yes so i would find any mermaids on that journey
00:50:27.260 no mermaid but but quickly on that there was a a minky whale um and actually i just want to like
00:50:36.980 say for all of the bad stories about tongues falling off and everything there was this one
00:50:39.980 story bristol channel i basically was swimming non-stop for 72 hours to get across the bristol
00:50:44.780 channel and as i was going across this minky whale uh basically came over to me and started
00:50:49.480 blowing bubbles in my face yeah it was unbelievable like swimming under me breaching next to me
00:50:55.980 and i turned to matt the captain again i was like matt i was like what is going on i said do i need
00:51:00.120 to do i need to get out am i safe and matt was like no it's a minky well you're not on the menu
00:51:03.980 it's fine it's fine i was like all right cool so i carried on swimming basically he turned to me and 0.95
00:51:08.140 he said like i think what's happening is i think that she's a female and i think that she thinks
00:51:12.520 you're an injured seal so she was like a mom she basically then guided me all the way to wales which
00:51:18.400 is where the water got a little bit shallower like that so when the minky well knew that i was
00:51:22.500 getting a bit shallower and i was heading to land it breached one more time after keeping me like
00:51:27.340 company for miles slapped its tail as if to say like you're safe now and then and then i've never
00:51:32.700 seen her since so wow yeah and i think that is so cool i think it's probably because you were
00:51:37.640 smiling so much man you let you got escorted by a whale the whales like what is the chance of that
00:51:44.500 dude incredible but yeah and i think that's the nice thing that i really take a kick out of and
00:51:50.560 stuff so genuinely if you guys are ever in england i'd love to take you ice swimming you know we can
00:51:54.640 go and like hit up some i'll take you to the korea veckin like whirlpool you'll love it i would love
00:51:58.740 i'm a pretty strong swimmer i'm pretty strong swimmer i could swim pretty well not not like
00:52:04.640 not like him dude or even or even like anybody but like strong enough to stay afloat probably
00:52:09.260 swim better than me honestly really ross i i got the big feet oh paddles paddle feet
00:52:14.440 yeah but for instance if we went up to the penland firth for instance penland firth up there you to
00:52:20.860 put this into perspective even if you can't swim there's like treading water right now you can do
00:52:25.100 12 knots so that's you know 10 miles per hour to give you an idea cruising speed of a dolphin is
00:52:29.880 nine miles per hour so the currents over the top of scotland are some of the biggest in the world
00:52:34.020 so you will be going fast michael phelps swims at like five knots maybe six you know so you'll
00:52:39.120 be going faster than michael phelps what okay i'm in wait let's let's actually do this i i thoroughly
00:52:43.780 mean it like let's let's plan it as soon as we get off the call i can't i can't go under too deep
00:52:48.980 because my sinuses but that's fine at the surface and i'll do some i'll do some biking with you too
00:52:53.940 because i i do i rode bikes so i could do i could do 100 100 miles with you all just i would love
00:52:59.620 that you guys like if we even if we did like a weird like man tackle on weekend you know and we
00:53:03.920 just ended up like doing that adversity introduces you to you you know we're gonna do weights down
00:53:07.980 gym shot lifting club go and smash it in penland and maybe invite ksi in the squad to do it with
00:53:13.760 us that is it so you know ethan he's a gym shark yeah absolutely yep honestly but do a weekend
00:53:20.600 where we're all just like weirdly like a rite of passage you know like not to get too weird again
00:53:26.100 but that whole idea of the okugaki we make a version of that but it's almost like this is
00:53:31.060 weird but like an agogi so when spartans were like seven years old they'd check into an agogi
00:53:36.240 they were basically given a loincloth and barefoot and they'd have to just go like run miles on no
00:53:41.260 food could you imagine the content the content if we if us and the sidemen go to scotland
00:53:47.860 to swim and bike with ross edgley and they only give us a loincloth
00:53:52.060 in scotland i mean up there as well you get the water coming down from like the highlands
00:53:58.760 in the hebrides i mean honestly i have to send you guys pictures it's stunning it looks like
00:54:02.680 something out of avatar yes swimming around there and it is freezing you get choreographed you get
00:54:08.320 basking sharks you know but it's all but it's fine like basking sharks are fine like they we're not
00:54:13.760 on their menu but just to go up there go and smash some hills on a bike and then go and swim across
00:54:18.500 to the inner hebrides you honestly there's no better way to spend the winter you'd love it
00:54:22.880 i think we're gonna do a euro trip uh after the covid thing is is figured out uh and yeah we'll
00:54:30.520 stop by and run up a mountain honestly 100 like honestly i'll get that always equally and this
00:54:37.360 is almost like we talk about this in the book but this whole idea of like getting wintered
00:54:40.960 so epictetus one of the stoics it's something that we're not doing anymore but they used to
00:54:44.720 say that the armies you know they would fight in the summer but it's what you did in the winter
00:54:48.940 that would determine how you performed in the summer and so everyone talks about getting their
00:54:52.540 summer body but i'm here like going what about your winter body let's go scotland let's go you
00:54:57.340 know make friends with some jellyfish and just get wintered you know have you have you had a moment
00:55:03.900 where you've been too, too wintered? Like you said, uh, the Navy SEALs, when you, when you think
00:55:09.760 you've hit your peak, you're at really only 40%. Have you hit a hundred percent? Have you had it
00:55:14.340 like 99, even where you're, you're, you are on the cusp of quitting. So, so this gets weird. So
00:55:20.880 like, you know, we do this, uh, down, uh, gym chart, we've got sports scientists. We do basically,
00:55:25.900 I'm going to keep this quite short, but we have, um, you have what's called a strength deficit.
00:55:29.240 so a strength deficit is basically where um you measure your your training strength and your
00:55:36.040 absolute strength so imagine you've got a quad extension machine you know so you're measuring
00:55:40.400 the uh the strength of your quads we'd say like in a laboratory okay boom would hook like let's
00:55:46.420 use mike we hook mike up and we go like smelling salts you know slapping you on the back yeah and 0.99
00:55:51.380 we go right mike fucking get angry get angry and you see how much force you can generate through 0.99
00:55:55.640 your quads with you voluntarily contracting it got it so you're just there like getting wired 0.99
00:56:00.640 and you do bang on and we measure how much force you generate strength your body's ability to
00:56:04.220 generate force then what we can do is we can electrically stimulate and involuntary contract
00:56:09.980 your quadriceps so what that does we electrocute you and then your quadriceps basically will
00:56:15.680 contract like to their full i'll just kick over a chair somebody just contracted your quads
00:56:21.820 to quad for you and you can kick the chair over but we would contract your quadriceps so you don't 0.87
00:56:27.840 have any control over it you would basically just sit there and we electrocute them we involuntary
00:56:32.000 crack the difference between those two is what's known as your strength deficit now for some people
00:56:37.920 it will be a large strength deficit which means that you've got muscle mass but you're not using
00:56:41.860 it to the full potential you're not recruiting all the muscle fibers you have and then other people
00:56:46.880 will have quite a small deficit and if you have a small deficit what you can do then is say okay
00:56:51.320 you need to build muscle you need bulk yeah you know to use a ufc example i think it's fascinating
00:56:55.580 right now when you look at john jones trying to go up to heavyweight people are going we'll just
00:56:58.580 bulk up no you need to do that but understanding your strength deficit you can't just go up and
00:57:02.520 build this you know unfunctional muscle mass yeah so to answer your question logan it gets real
00:57:07.760 interesting that when you start looking i had quite a small strength deficit so they said yeah
00:57:12.200 you're recruiting quite a lot i was on smelling salts you know getting wired and and they were
00:57:16.960 oh yeah cool you're recruiting your muscle fibers um and then in terms of cardio i mean we again you
00:57:22.260 guys will be more than welcome at love for uni we do vo2 tests there where you're hooked up like
00:57:27.040 into a horse harness and they just basically incrementally put it up put it up so in the end
00:57:32.680 we're trying to basically replicate kipchoge's sub to our marathon pace and it will end when
00:57:38.800 you're basically just like dribbling being sick being suspended like that from the harness so to
00:57:46.200 answer your question yeah i pushed it to some like like pretty dark places where i'm dribbling
00:57:52.640 you know probably lost control over my bowels but afterwards in in lab conditions you go cool
00:58:00.820 now we know where you're at and then that allows me when i'm swimming they're looking at my heart
00:58:05.500 rate and everything and what gym shark can turn around with all of this biofeedback they can go
00:58:09.740 yeah but you're not you're not actually at your capacity your heart rate's only here
00:58:13.880 your vo2 your lung capacity we know is here your strength deficit do you have any stats that are
00:58:19.040 anomalies like things that aren't normal of most people i do do you know what it's a good question
00:58:24.620 not really and that's why i do think that you know with a lot of the strategy i'm not i'm not
00:58:30.120 michael felt i'm not i'm 5 8 so it's not like you can say i swam around great britain because he's
00:58:34.440 got you know wingspan like this i'm a small guy i think one thing was probably um the food that i
00:58:42.160 just i i could eat 15 000 calories people were going like how do you put that away i was like
00:58:46.300 how do you not like that's that's insane that's that's a lot of food when i was in a training
00:58:51.360 camp for boxing i think i think i'm i maxed maybe 6 000 6 000 calories a day maybe clean or dirty
00:58:59.680 pretty clean yeah wow yeah see that that's a lot clean but also i i i couldn't eat any more than
00:59:07.040 that i couldn't uh if even if i tried if someone handed me a mcgriddle for mcdonald's i wouldn't
00:59:11.820 be able to eat it yeah so so i guess what you're saying like being able to even intake that much
00:59:18.620 food maybe that's an advantage of yours yeah yeah yeah honestly because like the swim it was weird
00:59:24.560 because it didn't become a swim anymore it was just like you're trying to control the breakdown
00:59:27.880 of the body you know everything like medically you know i was talking about as well like wetsuit
00:59:32.320 shaping was so bad i remember waking up some days and like like my bed sheets had fused to the the
00:59:38.020 wounds on my neck so i had to rip it off before i could even get in yeah so it was exactly it
00:59:45.500 and then and then i think one thing that's so interesting is like training your stomach like
00:59:49.760 people are like what do you mean and it's like before a fight before a long bike ride you need
00:59:54.980 to know like in terms of nutrigenomics so like we're only understanding this now how your nutrition
00:59:59.760 interacts with your individual genetics your gut bio all of that sort of stuff that now it's crazy
01:00:05.200 that there's so many people who would turn up for a marathon having not drilled nutritional
01:00:08.300 strategies i'm like how do you not know what works for your stomach for sure whereas for me
01:00:13.100 like in training i was doing 20k a day swimming with a picnic on the side of the pool so i knew
01:00:18.680 that when i got in and was doing the gb swim i knew exactly what my stomach could and couldn't
01:00:23.040 handle um you know even to the point of like seasickness as well i mean there was a story
01:00:29.660 in the book that i talk about just quickly but like i i was basically going you know when i
01:00:34.160 talked about the appendant firth and how fast the tides were up there yeah so basically i'm swimming
01:00:38.900 i'm swimming in the way and i got so bad like the swells are huge up there so i got real bad seasick
01:00:44.120 and so with the breath i turned to breathe and then i was basically sick underwater then i turned
01:00:49.760 to breathe at the same time the problem was is i was swimming with a tailwind so these waves were
01:00:54.200 coming behind me so i quickly realized that the tides and currents were pushing my own sick as
01:00:59.660 fast as i could swim it was just sticking with you yeah so i'm trying to out swim my own sick
01:01:05.300 and it's just i'm just bathing in it like like that just like with it all washing over me
01:01:10.360 so it's knowing was that before or after you swam in the poop and again that was before okay that
01:01:17.920 was before so i mean i was having a rough time but yeah it's it's knowing that like how your
01:01:25.920 body's going to interact with that and like i said getting wintered it's adversity training but you
01:01:30.160 know you've done that you've gone to those deep waters before you get there you know and i think
01:01:34.300 too often people people won't do that they won't do those vo2 tests where you're left dribbling you
01:01:38.840 won't do strength deficit tests but you need to know what material you're using and what you're
01:01:43.120 working with you know if you've not got a big vo2 cool at least you know it yeah yeah if you're if
01:01:48.460 you're going to do any sort of uh physical feat of that magnitude you definitely got to be as
01:01:54.800 prepared as possible because because i mean at what point are you quite literally just gambling
01:01:59.140 with your life have you have you felt like a life or death scenario yeah do you know what you're so
01:02:04.940 right there's been times where it's just like and that's actually the the whole theme of the book
01:02:09.340 where it's i say that resilience is the strategic management of suffering what i mean by that is
01:02:14.620 it's not just about kind of going way gung-ho and going for it's like limiting limitations
01:02:19.540 research and restrictions and thinking like is this even safe because yeah there was there was
01:02:23.900 probably like a few times i mean they lost me in the um in the caribbean when i was um towing the
01:02:29.080 tree so they lost me at night and i could see them but i was like guys i'm over here and they
01:02:34.200 had the big flashlight like that out and i was like if they don't see me i've got a long way to
01:02:38.860 well i was in between two caribbean islands so i was i you know i was like this doesn't end well
01:02:45.600 for me fortunately they found me but yeah there's been a few times uh you know shouting out not
01:02:51.120 knowing if it was a shark a dolphin um you know whale you know that then you you've got to make
01:02:57.240 peace with the fact that it's like this is within the hierarchy of the sea if that was my time to
01:03:02.860 go there's probably not a lot i could do about it if a shark was like dude you're gonna fight
01:03:06.280 off a shark if anyone's gonna punch a shark in the face and wait it's you not even a question
01:03:10.560 well have you gone through um a situation like that in your head are you fully prepared to
01:03:15.740 duke it out with a shark if need be yeah it gets your mind goes to some weird places for sure yeah
01:03:21.580 yeah so when i talked about like being left alone with my own thoughts for like 12 hours a day yeah
01:03:25.820 all of a sudden you see something out the corner of your eye and you're just like but if and what's
01:03:30.700 crazy is if i kept on getting out and stopping going oh shit get the light was that a shark was
01:03:34.660 it not i'm not making any progress so it's weird that like but in the british waters you know you 0.92
01:03:39.440 know that like there's not really anything that's going to do that much damage yeah yeah that's what
01:03:44.740 they say, man, but if I can't see it, I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, that, that you've
01:03:52.000 got to just think stoically and remove because you think, okay, am I being overcautious? Am I
01:03:57.520 talking myself out of this now? Or was that just kind of, you know, something out of the corner
01:04:01.680 of my head that I don't have to worry about. So it's just your mind will play so many tricks on
01:04:06.720 you. But the, but being overcautious isn't necessarily a bad thing. I get not letting
01:04:12.640 the torment of being too cautious ruined the endeavor yeah but like for me if i'm gonna be
01:04:20.680 if i'm gonna go in and start swimming and be like even semi-cautious there would be a point
01:04:25.460 like what you said where it's like okay this is this is now hindering my um my goal so have you
01:04:31.640 have you accepted fully on accepted the idea that things could end horribly yeah i do you know i
01:04:40.360 think i have like not this is going to sound weird and not to go too much like into it but i love what
01:04:44.720 you were talking about like about um positive visualization you know when you're running you
01:04:48.500 see your hand above your head you know you've won um one thing with the royal marines that they
01:04:52.900 talked about with me when i was doing my swim they said have you done negative visualization
01:04:56.840 you know a form of stoic philosophy that they'll use i'll be like why would i want to think about
01:05:00.760 the bad things and they were like because you need to know that if it goes completely tits up
01:05:06.860 that you're still going to be okay you know so the worst case scenario think about it how bad
01:05:11.280 it could get and then when it happens at least you've kind of gone oh okay i thought this would
01:05:15.100 happen and i was like i don't really want to think about it like that and then this is where they
01:05:19.020 said to me they said ross you need to think like a ninja and i was like right i'm in like wait you
01:05:26.020 got me yeah and they said like a ninja was so feared and revered because they would made peace
01:05:31.520 with the fact that an honorable death in battle was just like okay you got me you killed me so
01:05:36.200 they weren't thinking about that they were just thinking about swinging their sword more efficiently
01:05:39.940 than the opponent so if you've got an opponent who's kind of like nervous and a bit rigid and
01:05:44.440 they're like you know but no ninja's just like no i'm just thinking of the process you know the
01:05:48.720 process is their own reward i'm there and i'm swinging my sword better but i've made peace
01:05:52.520 with the fact that if i die i die you yeah i think you ross you talked sorry you talked a little bit
01:05:57.300 earlier about about this journey and about how you're you're not different than other people
01:06:02.140 you just decided to go on the journey. And I think that was really, uh, kind of indicative
01:06:07.880 of what you're talking about. And you talk about this eudaimonia. Do you feel to, to, uh, to an
01:06:12.800 extent that the peace that you have with, uh, with potentially losing your life or having something
01:06:19.520 drastically bad happen as a result of one of these things is tied to the fact that you went
01:06:23.880 on that journey that you've already completed so many things in this life and that you feel
01:06:28.700 pretty damn good about the place that you're in right now yeah weirdly yeah weirdly not not like
01:06:35.160 i do not have a death wish at all but i also think it's just this idea of kind of you know
01:06:40.100 get busy living or get busy dying you know so there is this idea that yeah you i could be this
01:06:44.940 old uh you know 80 year old in my rocking chair you know sitting there going like oh i've led the
01:06:50.400 best life i've wrapped myself in bubble wrap you know and i've got kind of got nothing you know
01:06:54.420 chauffeur i think it was hunter s thompson who was like you need to go into the grave like skidding
01:06:58.120 sideways on fire yeah yeah exactly and i you know i'm the same people like a lot you know i've got
01:07:04.480 scars down my body from like pulling the car like you know my neck like tongue's growing back
01:07:08.700 thankfully um but there was loads of these things that when people were like was it worth it i'm
01:07:14.200 like yeah i'm gonna be like a crazy old man if i make it that far and just just being like you
01:07:19.880 know what he lived and i can't remember who it was now i think it might have been socrates that
01:07:23.660 that they were just like life's long enough um if it's lived fully and i and i'm like yeah no and
01:07:29.560 again not this is getting a bit too deep but with with einstein like people don't know with with
01:07:34.420 einstein when he had um and i can't it might have been a heart condition i'm butchering this story
01:07:38.900 slightly but he they said we can treat it we can treat your heart condition um you know there is
01:07:43.520 things that we can do we can do surgery and everything and he just said like no like what's
01:07:46.940 the point in artificially trying to extend my life like i've done my bit you know it's cool
01:07:52.120 and i just think that's it's no it's noble it's also kind of fucking scary like like for me
01:08:00.100 this is fascinating when i was early 20s a mid-20s nominal man when i was early 20s uh i
01:08:07.740 really i mean when i say like i made peace with the idea of dying i was like this is it i'm gonna
01:08:13.120 go as hard as i as i can um death is death i've lived a sick life like 22 23 i'd done everything
01:08:18.780 i wanted to do and 24 25 it changed i want to live forever i want to live forever now like i
01:08:26.340 started falling in love with this idea of life so i don't know how how apt i am to go swimming in
01:08:33.060 in deep dark water where i can't see what's underneath me because although it's although
01:08:38.020 it's insane and crazy and would do wonders for me as a human yeah i'm not sure if i'm willing to 0.99
01:08:47.340 take a leap like that and for that reason your balls are much bigger than yours no do you know 0.99
01:08:55.220 what though you're you're right and this i think this is a whole other podcast though because it 0.98
01:08:58.960 does it does fascinate me and again i'd be lying if i said i haven't thought about this in the 157
01:09:03.560 days where i was just left with my thoughts you know your mind goes to some strange places but
01:09:08.180 one thing that i think is strange like with my tongue and like losing parts of my body and
01:09:12.720 everything like that it's weird that you uh for those of you like ran our finds greatest living
01:09:18.140 explorer there is amazing and he um there's a story about when he he might have come back from
01:09:23.480 everest i can't remember what it was now but he basically uh had frostbite in his fingers
01:09:27.980 and um they were like you're probably going to lose your fingers and he was like no no no no
01:09:32.000 like i think they'll be okay and they were like no we might have to amputate and he was like no no
01:09:35.280 like let me keep them and i'll see if they basically the blood comes back and they come
01:09:38.860 back to life long story short he got back home uh got in the bath a nice warm bath and they
01:09:45.260 basically thawed um and then fell off no he left he left them this gets worse he left them
01:09:54.160 on the side of the bath carried on washing himself finished his bath and everything like that
01:09:59.280 uh went downstairs his wife then went upstairs and was just like for god's sake i've told you
01:10:05.220 to stop leaving fingers in the back so there was there was an element of that going through my head
01:10:14.160 I was like you know hey look if my tongue is the penance that I have to pay to swim around
01:10:21.060 Great Britain you know it would be trickier now to speak to you guys but it was it was a price
01:10:26.760 that I was willing to pay you know that I was for me for me anyway and some people are like that's 0.99
01:10:31.380 not look i like my tongue but i was like you know what i don't need all of it so yeah fucking 0.94
01:10:37.600 badass dude that's that's that's what it is you're just that's the easiest way to explain it i think 0.96
01:10:41.760 a lot i think people like us will always sit in awe of people like you and just wonder what it 0.97
01:10:45.680 is that makes it makes you so different you're a fucking badass bro that's it i think what gets 0.86
01:10:52.140 i did once gets weird as well like even now looking at like um you know the wanderlust gene 0.97
01:10:56.720 So they've actually identified a gene that like 20%, I believe, of the population have, where they have a lower sensitivity to dopamine. So they need to basically lead a bolder lifestyle to satisfy, you know, those needs. If you look at the anthropology of this humans, dating back to when we were believed to be in Africa, you know, it was probably that 20% who went, hang on, like, what's over the horizon? You know, like, you go take a peek, you know, but there was equally those people who didn't. And that's, that's fine.
01:11:24.600 but I think it manifests itself in, in different ways. You know, speaking to you guys with what
01:11:29.920 you've done, you all must have an element of that. Maybe not for basking shots.
01:11:35.560 We make jokes. We make jokes about this. And I've noticed, uh, I've, I've gotten numb to like a lot
01:11:41.360 of things. Uh, I feel like I've lived a lot of lives. I've had a lot of wins, a lot of failures.
01:11:45.740 And so I've, I'm, I'm, I'm numb to a lot of things. And I've noticed that I'll do things
01:11:51.300 literally just so i can have that spike of adrenaline that dopamine hit wake me up in the
01:11:56.160 morning like i love doing stunts in the morning this isn't a joke it'll it'll be the first thing 0.86
01:12:00.380 i do in the morning i'll fucking jump off a balcony or or anything to wake me up and get 0.77
01:12:05.340 me going like it it excites me it brings me back to life revitalizes me yeah i get it i get it and 0.86
01:12:11.280 i do you know i think i'm guilty of that as well so now when people because like swimming around
01:12:15.400 great britain was never on anyone's radar because it was just like it's just like who would do that
01:12:19.140 now we've done that yeah i'm like it sounds weird but even like i remember the first week i was back
01:12:24.220 on land and i'm sat there on like you know with a with a globe and my girlfriend just came in she
01:12:28.940 was like what are you doing and i was just like you know just looking at other countries she's
01:12:33.900 just like no no so she's i promised i wouldn't do anything stupid but for i think i said two years
01:12:40.480 but that's running out now so i'm almost at the point where next you know what what is next do
01:12:45.620 know there's been a few i mean you know there's been a few ideas thrown around so i'll tell you
01:12:51.380 guys uh you know off sort of you'll be the first to yeah you'll be the first to know publicly but
01:12:57.160 there's been some that have been thrown around that i'm just a bit like yeah like that that
01:13:01.340 excites me for a higher purpose like i spoke about before yeah and and and that's what's
01:13:06.480 you know so cool that when you can sit around like you guys are as a team you sit around and
01:13:10.600 you're just like okay what can we do how can we use this platform i think it's the same that when
01:13:14.680 you know i i'm at gym chart hq on there chatting to the guys like drawing a parallel to like jack
01:13:19.700 cousteau who pioneered scuba diving like you know aqualung and just made like you know documentaries
01:13:25.620 wrote books and and improved ocean literacy you know improve our understanding of the oceans and
01:13:30.380 i'm just like yes like that if i could dedicate my life to that and just like swim around countries
01:13:36.360 and float and just like smash like 15 000 calories i'm like that that is a life of eudaimonia so it's
01:13:43.160 nice to have found that yeah because i think a lot of people don't and i hope people listening
01:13:48.120 they start asking their question like what what is it what's their pilgrimage what's their
01:13:52.420 akugaki yeah or just quickly to come back to what you said as well logan have you heard of the term
01:13:58.040 ikugai a japanese term uh yeah well uh where have i heard that why have i heard that ikugai
01:14:02.920 what is it it's basically they believe so it was created on an island where they had more people
01:14:09.720 that was where that's where okay i literally just heard this
01:14:14.480 really our videographer he just made a video about this or with this concept amazing yeah
01:14:20.620 amazing so yeah basically just this idea that they have more uh people living over 100 where
01:14:26.080 this term was originated on an island than anywhere else in the world and they kind of
01:14:29.540 came over and there was like fresh food and and vegetables and everything like that but this one
01:14:33.580 thing that they had in this this culture was this if a guy and they said what is it and it's
01:14:37.620 looking back through history maslow's hierarchy you know self-actualization you start looking at
01:14:42.740 like aristotle talked about you know intellectual eudaimonia you know but the the japanese and i
01:14:48.280 love this they just said it's your sense of purpose it's your reason for being it's why
01:14:51.400 you get up in the morning and it's made up of four things it's what you're good at what the
01:14:55.960 world needs what you can be paid for and what you enjoy doing and if you hit those four things
01:15:01.640 that's your ikigai that's that's perfect that's why you get up every morning but loads of people
01:15:07.000 I think miss out on certain parts so for me you know it was kind of looking at the swim and it
01:15:12.180 was like what I can be paid for it was like you know not many people thought it was possible so
01:15:16.320 I had like nobody wanted to give me any money so I was just like fine I'll do it on my own
01:15:20.320 so that was missing you know it was I loved it it was what I was good at and and it inspired a lot
01:15:25.540 of people to go on to do their things so it was nice in terms of that but I was kind of missing
01:15:29.280 to talk honestly you know the commercial aspect because you can't then be a martyr
01:15:34.700 doing it with with no money so you need to monetize it because otherwise it's not a lifestyle you can't
01:15:40.520 live it yeah and i think that's what's so good with what you just described that really and truly
01:15:44.920 with your projects as a team you guys are collectively going is this an ica guy is it what
01:15:51.220 the world needs can we be paid for it yeah probably is it what the one is and i think that's where
01:15:55.080 you're you're moving to see your evolution from you know the boxing and everything like that now
01:15:59.720 it feels like that's where you guys are heading it's amazing to see i think if most people followed
01:16:03.900 that not to sound too cheesy the world would be a better place i totally agree totally agree yeah
01:16:08.260 if you can get a series of uh the ikigai and and again that's just the sweet spot it can it leads
01:16:14.640 to only only good things yeah 100 but i just think people miss out on that what the world needs as
01:16:20.040 well you know and that's that's certainly with with future sort of swims i'm just kind of like
01:16:24.680 yeah if it's what if it's what the world needs yep then sign me up if it's an ikigai sign me up
01:16:29.060 done totally yeah well yo listening to you speak now and ryan garcia on our podcast i i think i
01:16:35.920 might become a gym shark athlete but you are sponsored by gym shark if you guys want to check
01:16:50.600 out gym sharks products click the link in the description uh their stuff's awesome and obviously
01:16:55.560 they have awesome people people on their uh lexicon so ross appreciate you bro thank you
01:17:00.960 for joining us thanks ross thank you guys thanks for having me right and like i said i'll send you
01:17:05.740 an invite scotland permanent invite spare goggles and i'll get the battered deep fried chocolate as
01:17:10.420 well let's go please do uh where can they follow you on instagram uh and what where can they buy
01:17:15.320 your book uh yeah so instagram and then uh oh tomorrow uh actually it comes out on audio um
01:17:21.880 And then it's available on Amazon in America in a few weeks.
01:17:27.100 And in, I think, UK and Australia, it's out now.
01:17:31.060 So with everything that's kind of happening with COVID,
01:17:32.620 it's kind of been a little bit delayed,
01:17:33.740 but it's basically coming out, you know, right now.
01:17:35.960 So yeah, guys, thank you so much for letting me chat about that
01:17:38.060 and all of my weird stories.
01:17:39.380 Of course, brother.
01:17:40.020 Of course, you made me a better person.
01:17:41.700 Hope y'all downloaded something from this podcast. 1.00
01:17:44.860 Shit, that's impulsive. 0.99
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01:17:47.820 And we will see you next week.
01:17:49.320 Take it easy.
01:17:50.380 Peace.
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