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00:02:12.280 Is that Shawn Mendes?

00:02:13.400 Are those the Hadid, like Gigi and Bella Hadid? 0.93

00:02:15.960 I'm like, what the f*** is going on? 1.00

00:02:17.200 What is my fat ass doing here? 0.99

00:02:19.040 And at that time, Fortnite was at its still peak, so I was like, you know what? 0.99

00:02:23.620 I was like, I'm just going to go up to girls and be like, you ever heard of Fortnite? 0.66

00:02:26.440 i'm fortnight i am fortnight they're not gonna they're like you're fortnight

00:02:32.200 like it's a dj name like skrillex like wow you're fortnight

00:02:36.520 oh yeah i didn't sleep at all because i have a severe case of food poisoning oh no what are

00:02:50.360 you trying to get out of the bathroom like i've been in the bathroom so it's real it's

00:02:56.320 dead serious i don't want to make this too graphic but are you painting the toilet

00:03:00.160 i easiest way to put this so it's not too graphic is i have become an inside out human okay everything

00:03:06.880 that once existed within my body is now a part of the outside world he's pablo picasso with the 0.98

00:03:11.760 with the toilet wow that's i'm with the shits welcome back to impulsive the number one podcast 0.97

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00:03:29.960 gang squad cast member group go logan uh what's up guys i'm great check this out brand awareness

00:03:37.780 boom now you're mad at me go ahead yell at me well because you're plugging your brand on my podcast

00:03:41.820 yes it's fine dude nice joke towards that whole thing that happened to us at one time what happened

00:03:47.180 exactly times have moved on uh we got a phenomenal guest great guest welcome welcome back to the 0.97

00:03:52.540 group uh it's monday we're gonna kick this week's ass i'm hot i'm sweating i'm drinking a lot of 0.95

00:03:57.760 water the doctor told me i've been drinking too much water did you know that's possible never 0.98

00:04:01.720 what if you drink too much water your brain can drown how much is too much water though because

00:04:06.260 like brady drinks uh like i think multiple gallons a day of water look up how much water i'm at i'm

00:04:13.320 at about two to three that's a lot two to three gallons brother two to three gallons 13.3 liters

00:04:19.160 i think is the max before your brain starts to drown or something like that at what point are

00:04:25.520 you that thirsty water water intoxication also known as water poisoning which you know maybe

00:04:30.040 that's what i have uh uh is a problem it's it's scary for a lot of people water can be dude you

00:04:36.700 can you can drown on a teaspoon of water you can drown on a teaspoon of water health healthy

00:04:41.600 kidneys are able to excrete approximately 800 milliliters to a liter of fluid water per hour

00:04:46.760 yeah because because essentially what you're doing is flushing out all the good nutrients

00:04:51.100 that are in your body oh so you lose electrolytes everything everything have you ever drank pedialyte

00:04:55.880 as an adult i love pedialyte it's great yeah it's great hangovers um pedialyte not a brand deal go

00:05:01.480 to cvs when you're hungover grab a pedialyte down it you'll be good in two hours i think that's what

00:05:04.880 you should actually be drinking instead of like a gatorade yeah oh for sure for sure people have

00:05:09.260 no idea how much sugar is in gatorade no drink like two coca-colas and that's a gatorade that's

00:05:13.700 crazy are you can we get a fact check on that i don't know if that's true that seems a bit

00:05:18.140 excessive i mean it's not it's not gatorade's not like well i get that i get the fat one you know

00:05:22.920 the big gatorade the one that's kind of like it's like a chubby my girlfriend my girlfriend josie 0.71

00:05:27.280 will only get the gatorades with the sucky tops that's what she calls it the sucky tops she's

00:05:31.340 lucky man yes i am guys i want to bring out our guest today he's one of the most prominent figures

00:05:37.120 in the gaming industry with three million subscribers on youtube and two million followers

00:05:40.620 on Twitch, most famously known

00:05:42.580 for dating Ariana Grande.

00:05:44.760 Congrats.

00:05:46.040 Please welcome the 100 Thieves gaming guru,

00:05:48.580 Jack Courage Dunlop.

00:05:52.000 How you doing, brother?

00:05:52.940 How you doing?

00:05:53.900 Much excitement for this one.

00:05:55.440 Congratulations, man.

00:05:56.660 I've been waiting so long for this.

00:05:58.280 Yeah, definitely just celebrated

00:05:59.260 my one-year anniversary

00:06:00.020 of my actual girlfriend yesterday.

00:06:01.780 I saw that, actually.

00:06:02.540 But, yeah, Ariana, if you're out there,

00:06:04.900 let's go out to dinner.

00:06:06.440 And then there's no more anniversaries

00:06:08.320 after that.

00:06:09.040 That's it.

00:06:09.260 One year was the match.

00:06:10.020 I actually saw your volume's good.

00:06:12.540 Everything's good in the headphones.

00:06:13.540 Yeah, everything's great.

00:06:14.240 You sound nice and loud.

00:06:15.280 Maybe you can turn them down like 10%.

00:06:17.120 Well, turn down Logan like 80%.

00:06:18.560 Yeah, you think I'm bad?

00:06:19.360 I didn't talk yet.

00:06:19.940 You think I'm bad?

00:06:20.720 I didn't talk yet.

00:06:22.040 95.

00:06:23.460 95.

00:06:24.160 Yeah, please.

00:06:25.760 So yeah, I saw actually your anniversary tweet.

00:06:28.300 Your one-year anniversary tweet.

00:06:29.760 And as I follow you everywhere, bro, I got to say I'm a massive fan.

00:06:33.040 And I've been watching you just blow up over the past two years.

00:06:37.480 Just blow up.

00:06:38.260 and when I first

00:06:39.180 started watching you

00:06:40.540 you were on the come up

00:06:42.420 the cusp of the come up

00:06:43.520 and I said to myself

00:06:44.600 yo this guy is such

00:06:46.220 an amazing personality

00:06:47.820 and he's phenomenal

00:06:48.900 at gaming too

00:06:49.500 like where's the recognition

00:06:51.060 and now it's here

00:06:52.400 so like

00:06:52.980 it's the famous case

00:06:54.320 of reality has caught up

00:06:55.700 to the presence

00:06:57.140 ahead of your time

00:06:58.160 wow

00:06:58.720 guys a talent scout

00:07:00.700 he is a great talent scout

00:07:02.840 but I did see your tweet

00:07:04.280 yesterday

00:07:04.620 the anniversary tweet

00:07:05.340 and I took notes

00:07:05.980 because it was so sweet

00:07:07.300 thank you

00:07:07.760 it was so sweet you love this girl it was one of those where you know you start in the notes

00:07:11.640 and then you bring it to twitter yep yep you're checking the character limit and everything and

00:07:15.700 it wound up working out well i got some brownie points for it yeah yeah i want to read it here

00:07:19.240 ready oh thank you is this gonna be embarrassing no it's just you're a man of uh many many facets

00:07:24.280 and love is is definitely one of them maddie maddie your beauty work ethic and infectious

00:07:31.120 laugh are second to none you've pushed me out of my comfort zone countless times and made me a

00:07:34.880 Better man because of it.

00:07:35.820 Sushi.

00:07:36.240 Together, we're unstoppable.

00:07:37.540 Happy one-year anniversary.

00:07:38.540 I love you.

00:07:39.520 That's amazing.

00:07:40.300 If gaming ends up not working, Hallmark, like, cards?

00:07:43.640 Cards, yeah.

00:07:44.360 My mom loves Hallmark movies. 0.85

00:07:46.200 Dude, what mother does it? 1.00

00:07:47.400 If your mother doesn't like Hallmark, get rid of her. 1.00

00:07:50.180 Get a new mom. 1.00

00:07:51.480 Get a new mom. 0.99

00:07:52.300 All right.

00:07:53.180 I can do that.

00:07:54.080 But I found this fascinating.

00:07:56.240 Thank you.

00:07:57.240 Yeah, because you game.

00:07:58.840 And I've always found it hard to balance girlfriend, like, real-life stuff, and gaming.

00:08:04.880 And we asked Nate, I'm sure you saw the episode.

00:08:07.880 I was like, how does Jack do it?

00:08:09.200 Jack, how do you do it?

00:08:10.240 Because he got game.

00:08:11.440 Hey, well, thank you.

00:08:12.840 That's all right.

00:08:13.980 I'll give him a brownie point to that, too.

00:08:15.380 But no, I really don't know.

00:08:17.040 I don't know how it worked out. 1.00

00:08:18.920 You know, her lifestyle was really crazy and traveling a lot and going everywhere for her job.

00:08:23.400 And we met prior to the pandemic, prior to 2020, prior to even when we first met, we were just as friends for six months.

00:08:32.640 And then next thing you know, we started talking more.

00:08:34.560 And I was like, wow, I really like this girl.

00:08:36.120 And it worked out.

00:08:37.400 I'm someone that is really kind of calculated.

00:08:40.020 And every decision I make, I put a lot of thought into it and basically everything I do.

00:08:45.340 So I had four years prior to it where for work, I had moved cross-country four times.

00:08:50.540 I knew I was in the place in my life to have a girlfriend.

00:08:54.140 So when I got settled out in Los Angeles, I knew, hey, this is where I wanted to be.

00:08:56.780 That was in March of last year.

00:08:58.680 Then I was like, all right, time to actually begin to look.

00:09:00.760 Time to apply myself.

00:09:02.300 I've never been on any of those dating apps

00:09:03.640 or anything like that.

00:09:04.300 I'm someone that I could be put in front of a brick wall

00:09:06.340 and talk to it for, you know, six hours and have no issue.

00:09:10.460 It's nice that you started out as friends

00:09:12.080 because then you really know that person.

00:09:13.980 Sure.

00:09:14.360 You know, like when you start dating someone, 1.00

00:09:15.420 they're like, bullshit. 0.99

00:09:16.060 They're like, no, this is my first time here. 1.00

00:09:17.640 You're like, fuck, you're lying. 1.00

00:09:18.920 You're lying. 1.00

00:09:19.680 No, I've only slept with like two people. 1.00

00:09:21.160 You're a fucking liar. 1.00

00:09:22.080 I was in the room. 1.00

00:09:22.940 There was at least six guys there.

00:09:23.920 You're lying.

00:09:24.400 You're lying to yourself.

00:09:25.800 That's exactly how it started.

00:09:27.040 And I think that it worked out best for me.

00:09:29.140 And next thing you know, asked her on a date.

00:09:31.500 and somehow worked

00:09:33.320 and now I pay her

00:09:33.840 15 grand a month 0.82

00:09:34.500 to be my girlfriend.

00:09:35.300 Amazing.

00:09:35.920 Just like that.

00:09:36.580 That's a good,

00:09:37.200 that's a thousand dollars

00:09:38.260 cheaper than mine.

00:09:38.960 That is amazing deal.

00:09:40.260 I gotta get you,

00:09:40.780 I gotta help you out.

00:09:42.280 Does she feel threatened

00:09:43.300 at all by your other girlfriend,

00:09:46.420 Ariana Grande or?

00:09:48.340 Grande, yeah.

00:09:49.060 I think that. 0.99

00:09:50.500 She wants to date Ariana 1.00

00:09:51.700 more than me

00:09:52.360 so we've decided

00:09:53.000 that if Ariana

00:09:53.520 somehow comes back 0.56

00:09:54.480 into our lives.

00:09:55.740 Fantastic. 0.92

00:09:56.500 Polygamous relations

00:09:57.260 like fully. 1.00

00:09:58.000 No, she'll just 0.96

00:09:58.580 straight up leave me. 0.92

00:09:59.360 Oh, wow.

00:09:59.680 Yeah, her hope is that 0.97

00:10:00.520 Ariana's kind of into that 0.99

00:10:01.480 and she'll just leave me for her

00:10:03.420 and I'll have to be happy for her.

00:10:04.660 But if Ariana chooses me, 0.97

00:10:05.740 then that's the way the cookie crumbles. 1.00

00:10:07.640 There's definitely a girl 1.00

00:10:08.520 that she should be more worried about 0.80

00:10:10.040 than Ariana Grande

00:10:10.840 and that is the Lamborghini

00:10:13.200 that you just purchased.

00:10:14.440 And I have to pose this question to you right now,

00:10:16.520 Mr. Courage.

00:10:17.880 If you had to choose only one.

00:10:20.620 Ariana or the Lamborghini?

00:10:21.800 No, your sweet, sweet girlfriend in actuality 1.00

00:10:24.200 or the Lamborghini

00:10:25.040 because you are in love with that car. 1.00

00:10:29.540 I mean, shit. 1.00

00:10:31.480 Well, the good news is you don't have to choose anymore. 1.00

00:10:33.800 The relationship's over.

00:10:35.780 Thankfully, I got the SUV, so it does fit a lot of stuff,

00:10:38.560 so we can move Matty out of the house in two quick trips. 0.84

00:10:42.060 It won't take much to get her out of here.

00:10:43.820 He's calculated.

00:10:44.680 He knew exactly where he was going with that.

00:10:45.920 How long did you want that car for?

00:10:48.120 I mean, we had laptops in high school,

00:10:50.460 and I knew that back in high school, freshman year, 14, 15,

00:10:54.920 my background was like the Lamborghini logo.

00:10:57.660 I always wanted one and knew that it was something

00:10:59.700 that if I ever was in the position to get one,

00:11:01.240 And that was going to be like my big thing.

00:11:03.240 So, you know, year and a half prior when I first saw the URSA, I was like, wow, I love that car.

00:11:09.080 And then, you know, financial teams, investments, certain decisions and successes that went my way.

00:11:16.200 And I was like, yeah, now that we've got the family taken care of, I'm invested.

00:11:19.520 I've got, you know, I've got stuff going for me that I'm going to do this because you only live once in this life.

00:11:24.420 And I'm not going to be 55 and regret not being in my, you know, getting my dream car in my mid to late 20s and enjoying the, you know, fruits of my labor.

00:11:32.400 Love that.

00:11:32.960 I hate applying materialistic things to goals, but it is so nice when you get that thing you've wanted for so long.

00:11:41.200 It is.

00:11:41.500 It is.

00:11:42.120 And, you know, with that, too, I wanted to make sure that, like, my audience knew this wasn't like an impulse decision because it's not a smart investment at all to buy a car like that.

00:11:50.880 No, no, no.

00:11:51.500 But, you know, I bought it in cash.

00:11:53.700 I don't have six years of payments on it

00:11:55.500 I was like let me just see what they offer

00:11:57.660 as a financing option and they're like

00:11:59.240 yeah you pay over 50% of it now and then you

00:12:01.660 pay a lot per month for the next six

00:12:03.580 years of your life and you have to worry about it and I was like

00:12:05.740 no no thanks actually

00:12:07.120 I got the privilege to drive one of these in Miami

00:12:09.580 and it was actually fantastic

00:12:11.880 so the Lamborghini

00:12:13.820 Rolls Royce

00:12:15.660 I'm sure I think

00:12:17.100 Porsche they all came out with trucks

00:12:19.600 in what 20

00:12:21.160 2020 or 2019

00:12:22.860 the horse has had one for a while it's 2019 was the year was the first year okay and and and i was

00:12:28.320 just like every other kid you know i've wanted a lamborghini my whole life but i was uh sort of

00:12:33.760 hesitant because lamborghini rolls royce these are car companies these are luxury uh hyper car

00:12:39.860 i don't know about rolls but they're european foreign car companies and so i wasn't sure that

00:12:45.660 the truck right off the bat right the first round right off the rip would be fantastic like i would

00:12:50.720 Even the Cullinan scares me to possibly invest in a car.

00:12:54.460 Does Rolls-Royce really know how to make a truck?

00:12:56.260 No, you've been making cars for 60, 70 years. 0.98

00:13:00.180 And goddamn, it looks like they did a real good job. 0.99

00:13:02.660 So pretty. 0.99

00:13:03.360 It's so pretty.

00:13:04.240 It's been great so far.

00:13:05.700 Have you broken the land speed record?

00:13:07.500 Not quite yet.

00:13:08.480 Not quite yet.

00:13:09.160 But the top speed is 117.

00:13:11.200 In a controlled environment, definitely not on the highway on the way back from Napa.

00:13:14.200 Got you.

00:13:14.740 It's so crazy to watch you get your dream car.

00:13:18.600 And also outside of that, all the factors that go into getting that dream car, just watching your explosion this year.

00:13:25.100 And as Logan talked about, people finally catching up to the to the freight train that is courage.

00:13:30.440 How does it feel to be bucking the trend so hard in 2020?

00:13:35.840 And because I could relate to this a lot where 2020 is your year.

00:13:39.440 Everybody is out there right now.

00:13:41.280 Worst year ever.

00:13:42.240 Every single thing has happened.

00:13:43.900 The pandemic has, you know, has crushed the world and paralyzed economies.

00:13:48.140 and you're just sitting over here just crushing it all the cards have turned in your favor and

00:13:53.260 it's just been an incredible year for you yeah it's definitely had its ups and downs it's fair

00:13:57.200 share but business wise it's been a blessing for me and i know a lot of other creators in this that

00:14:02.480 you know sure a lot is a lot of industries have suffered but gaming is probably the number one

00:14:08.860 industry that's you know had positive impact from what's gone on so you have to kind of take it with

00:14:13.700 a grain of salt but i viewed it as hey now i'm home everyone else is home so typically where

00:14:18.840 you're like oh you know school started or you know numbers kind of dipped during the week i was like

00:14:23.000 wow i'm going live during school and my viewership is up 50 war zone came out and now you know i

00:14:29.480 signed this deal with youtube last year which was a life-changing opportunity and you know the switch

00:14:33.780 from twitch to youtube has been has been phenomenal so now now it's just i mean this this past week

00:14:39.340 due to Among Us and that whole hype.

00:14:41.540 Crazy.

00:14:41.920 It's been my biggest month since January 2019,

00:14:45.200 which is my first real takeoff month with Fortnite.

00:14:48.880 This past week, I've averaged just shy of 40,000 viewers a stream

00:14:53.000 for probably like 80 hours of content.

00:14:56.560 So people are just loving it.

00:14:57.700 I think I told Nate Shot this.

00:15:02.260 Truthfully, I'm sure there's a lot of people watching who feel this.

00:15:06.820 i never understood why people would sit and watch other people play video games right this was like

00:15:13.040 four or five years ago before uh gaming live streaming really took off absolutely and because

00:15:18.440 i was like yo if why don't you just go play yourself like if you're gonna do something with

00:15:21.720 video games go go have fun go play with yourself and then ninja started popping off you started

00:15:26.380 popping off and and i realized like you like you guys are really professional athletes like the

00:15:32.360 the way you guys play these games is so entertaining like i'll find myself now like

00:15:36.620 hopping on a stream and watching for 10 to 30 minutes just to get my mind off of whatever's

00:15:40.800 going on yeah streaming in itself though for me when i tried it was so draining it is how do you

00:15:48.240 have so much energy you get tired oh for sure i mean i think that there's certain things that

00:15:53.460 people are like born to do it sounds really cliche on this like in in life they're like man i know i

00:15:58.480 I was born to do this or I was born to be a leader or born to do this sort of thing.

00:16:01.840 When I started streaming, it was just like a natural fit for me.

00:16:04.960 I love interacting with a chat, being able to improvise on the fly, 0.51

00:16:10.160 something stupid happens in the game, give a reaction.

00:16:13.720 It's all about calculating and knowing like, hey, I know I'm about to have this. 0.99

00:16:17.800 It's going to be a fail.

00:16:18.800 I know what's about to happen.

00:16:19.880 Let me act on it even more so that when it does happen in five to ten seconds,

00:16:24.980 my chat then explodes and it feels really natural,

00:16:27.300 like not like something that was kind of scripted in the moment super calculated but the always on

00:16:31.400 nature it is it's i mean i think that that it's one of those things that now i'm almost kind of

00:16:36.820 immune to it i still love it and and i'm playing these games that um at times it's a love or hate

00:16:42.600 thing so if there's days where i'm playing a game like for example warzone back in march and april 0.72

00:16:47.240 and may i was so in love with that game that i would stream 10 hours and then be like fuck i i 0.66

00:16:53.060 can't wait to go live again like how many more hours until i can go to sleep to then go live 0.88

00:16:56.860 again yep but then now with with my state of war zone and my love for it i'm like

00:17:01.960 fuck this stream that used to be 10 hours i have no issue now i'm like it's two hours and 15 minutes 0.73

00:17:07.180 in what's hours do i have to stream until i can get offline what's pushing you in that direction 0.99

00:17:12.280 is it people coming at you with origins from the court don't even get me started you guys got time

00:17:16.360 yes please do it um no i mean right now it's there's this thing that really plagues games

00:17:22.700 in my opinion called skill-based matchmaking skill-based match which really pisses me off

00:17:26.140 which basically anytime you're in the top it basically ruins games for top 10 percent of

00:17:30.580 people um because instead of just going and matching people via a connection-based matchmaking

00:17:35.640 where it's like hey i'm this close to george that's that's how close our connections are so

00:17:40.440 we have a good connection to each other instead it's like well actually i'm gonna go ahead and

00:17:44.600 And even though George is right here and we're both searching at the same time, because I'm in such a higher league than George – I'm sorry, George.

00:17:50.840 I'm pretending like you're really bad at games.

00:17:52.360 It's okay.

00:17:52.840 I'm actually terrible at games.

00:17:54.420 Okay, good, good, good.

00:17:55.100 Then I'm going to go ahead and match the guy that's all the way in downtown L.A. just because of skill.

00:18:00.740 And you're going to have a three to four times worse connection to the game.

00:18:04.840 So it's not even about the more skilled players battling each other.

00:18:09.460 It's about the connection.

00:18:10.780 That's the start of it.

00:18:11.700 So that's part one.

00:18:12.780 And then there's the, instead of you're playing these games where Battle Royale, when you have 150 players, half the joy of it is you don't know who you're going to run into next. 0.98

00:18:20.440 You don't know if you're about to face Michael fucking Jordan or my fat ass in your next fight if this was basketball. 0.81

00:18:25.800 So meanwhile, now every fight I'm getting into, it's people that are in the top 10% of these games. 0.99

00:18:32.340 But then the issue is I wouldn't mind it if there were something to show for it. 0.98

00:18:36.380 So imagine if you tune into my stream and you're maybe a new viewer and you're going, man, why is he getting shit on so bad?

00:18:43.300 Well, if I play Warzone, I can look in the top right and it says, oh, this is a diamond lobby or a top 1% lobby to at least legitimize why I am in such a sweat fest and stressful environment. 0.92

00:18:56.520 This is kind of like, I might be wrong, but this is kind of like watching the Olympics and watching them run.

00:19:00.980 And you're like, it's not that big of a deal. 0.97

00:19:02.040 But if you put an average runner next to them, you're like, oh, fuck, these guys are fast. 0.99

00:19:04.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.98

00:19:06.040 you know for sure it's a really common complainer there's a lot of gamers talking about this do you

00:19:10.760 think sbmm like forces people to get better though uh i definitely think like the the average gaming

00:19:16.780 person is way better than back in 2007 2008 like when i was playing like halo 3 right but what i

00:19:23.080 think it really struggles with is that it burns people out way more it makes gaming a way more

00:19:27.160 negative experience because you are not you can't like for example a 10 win streak is like something

00:19:33.080 that just doesn't happen because three games in they put you in there are papers coming out and

00:19:39.020 things that haven't been proved yet but that are are these studies that the skill-based matchmaking

00:19:43.600 doesn't just put you in the highest lobbies it'll say hey you know what on game four he's doing so

00:19:49.200 well that we're going to randomly pair him with two people that are actually worse than should

00:19:54.040 be in his lobby to cut him off to basically sandbag him to then bring him down to then make

00:19:59.020 it's that when he gets back into that normal lobby it like like it's like a pit for your

00:20:04.020 addiction you know and makes you keep playing when i watch you ninja tim the tat man yeah 0.51

00:20:09.380 not really tim not really tim we do not like tim kind of sucks they have this ongoing thing 0.99

00:20:15.840 that's constantly oh yeah it's okay yeah yeah tim's pretty yeah fuck tim tim's at home he's 0.99

00:20:20.320 Like, oh, Tim doesn't give a fuck what we think. 1.00

00:20:25.200 I watch to see y'all fucking pwned noobs. 1.00

00:20:28.680 I want to see you destroy people, like obliterate them. 1.00

00:20:31.960 It's my favorite because they don't stand a chance. 1.00

00:20:33.860 Yeah.

00:20:34.060 So this, I totally see what you're saying just as an outsider, like how this could, you know, make it much less entertaining.

00:20:40.340 Why is Call of Duty doing that?

00:20:42.940 Do we know the theory?

00:20:43.720 It's not the only game either.

00:20:44.920 I mean, it's in games.

00:20:45.780 It's in games.

00:20:46.480 Call of Duty.

00:20:47.040 It's in Apex Legends.

00:20:48.240 I'm such a noob.

00:20:48.760 I'm sorry.

00:20:49.300 Does Fortnite do S.B.O.?

00:20:51.140 Yes, absolutely.

00:20:52.580 Fortnite switched to skill-based matchmaking.

00:20:56.820 I'm sure they have more information

00:20:58.480 and there's things that retain players better.

00:21:01.920 It makes casuals probably have a better experience,

00:21:04.200 like the lowest level of skill,

00:21:06.060 because it caters to them.

00:21:07.460 Instead of them going in and matching

00:21:09.260 with a random 150 people,

00:21:10.580 where let's say there's two of me in the lobby,

00:21:12.160 that'll beat 80% of those noobs.

00:21:14.800 Now they can just go into these lobbies

00:21:16.820 where everyone's playing with their eyes closed.

00:21:18.820 it's basic is the kind of skill level of it yeah um but it really sucks for certain you know

00:21:23.400 situations another one for a creator is like there's moments where you might be joining in

00:21:27.620 with someone who is a celebrity or has now caught on to your stuff and it's like hey can we get some

00:21:33.600 matches in so they then join up with you and you're excited for a great session together

00:21:38.320 but your skill-based matchmaking let's say you're in the bottom 20 you get brought to my

00:21:43.720 that's the big that's the biggest problem because i watched you play with dobrik yeah you had a game

00:21:48.760 with dobrik and he brought rpgs out which which was a great thing for him because he ended up

00:21:53.040 clutching a dub with the rpg which is amazing to watch but i deal with that too because i play with

00:21:57.660 people that are much better than me and i their lobbies get based on their skill sets so i'm 0.86

00:22:02.940 playing michael jordan i don't want to play fucking michael jordan i want to play like like 0.88

00:22:06.060 scotty pippen or somebody a little bit lower yeah we there was an opportunity for us to play with 0.97

00:22:10.220 like a massive level

00:22:12.300 like dream type of scenario

00:22:14.060 for a collaboration with a celebrity

00:22:15.460 and Nadeshot and I were talking about it

00:22:17.720 and while this was being planned

00:22:19.260 we were literally like

00:22:20.020 hey we're gonna make

00:22:21.020 we have to make second accounts

00:22:23.220 we have to make fresh accounts

00:22:25.180 with no stats

00:22:26.340 so that we have no 1% skill based matchmaking

00:22:29.200 so we can have a pleasurable gaming experience

00:22:31.840 because if we don't

00:22:33.440 then that person that we play with

00:22:34.700 is gonna hate their lives

00:22:36.020 for the two hours that they're there 0.71

00:22:37.080 and then we're never gonna play again

00:22:38.860 wow

00:22:39.620 you remember when you went to the arcade back in the day and then you started a game and they

00:22:44.480 would ask you medium regular expert yeah i think they should just do this so that way your audience

00:22:49.540 can see you play in the regular mode and then you could just do like uh hey if you guys donate to

00:22:53.920 this amount we're going to go to expert mode and you know what the beauty of it is that's the

00:22:57.780 that's the difference between a social playlist like if you've ever played halo they had social

00:23:01.300 playlists where you go in and match people of all sorts of ranks and just play fun little custom

00:23:06.260 games but then they had a ranked playlist where it was one to 50 so if i was a 50 and i joined a 0.52

00:23:11.940 lobby my little cousin be like yeah you're talking shit i'm gonna invite my cousin jack in and they're 0.99

00:23:16.960 all like 24s and then i join in as a 50 and it's like oh shit this guy's a real fucking deal he 0.99

00:23:24.280 just walk in big dick status exactly but that's hilarious all these like a lot of these games 0.96

00:23:28.580 don't have a ranking system nowadays so there's nothing to show for it it's like everyone gets 0.97

00:23:32.980 a participation trophy but there's no real change welcome to 2020 yeah well you're certainly big

00:23:38.180 enough to call activision right and say hey listen i'm gonna play with dobrik this week man as long

00:23:43.300 as they keep making billions in microtransactions they're gonna not care that courage is at the top

00:23:48.620 one percent hate skill-based matchmaking so shout out ander nickel ander if you're watching this

00:23:53.580 right now you guys got to do something he's he's the head of uh brand over at activision i talked

00:23:57.880 to him quite often did you uh um i completely forgot what i was gonna ask it's okay go for it

00:24:04.660 take a five go for it i want to ask you something about your interests because um evan is a gamer

00:24:08.480 dwarf mamba i know upstairs room is right above us yeah there's a good chance he could be literally

00:24:12.320 right above you and he loves you uh and i watch him go from game to game to game to game to game

00:24:17.440 and uh like i've kind of hinted at and i've mentioned it on this podcast before i used to

00:24:22.200 get i used to play world of warcraft i used to be addicted to pokemon uh obviously tetris

00:24:26.260 yeah all these things but i noticed my interests were super uh centralized i'd be i'd be in my

00:24:32.440 into my one game and i didn't really feel like switching yeah what about gaming in general

00:24:39.700 attracts you to all these different games like how come your your niche isn't uh so uh focused

00:24:46.980 yeah i think uh that's a really good question that a lot of different people would have a lot

00:24:50.980 of different answers to right there's there's streamers that are called like variety streamers

00:24:54.480 Where basically any new game that comes out, any type of genre, their audience will just follow them to it.

00:24:59.780 And it's kind of like the – for a lot of people, it's the pinnacle of streaming because they have the freedom to play whatever they want.

00:25:05.320 So their chance of burning out, as it's called, for streamers is way lower, in my opinion, because I get sick of Warzone.

00:25:14.160 But if I switch from Warzone to some random single-player game, I will lose 70% of my audience because I have such a Battle Royale Warzone-focused audience.

00:25:23.900 whereas there are certain streamers like co carnage summit xqc that these guys can literally

00:25:29.700 play you know hello kitty private island and they're at 40 000 viewers and then they'll switch

00:25:35.340 to world of warcraft and hold 80 of the viewership then they'll switch to overwatch it doesn't matter

00:25:39.400 what they play so for me right now with the way i approach things is listen if a game blows up like

00:25:44.520 among us is the hot thing right now it's not it's stupid of me not to go and try the game with other

00:25:49.900 creators it's an extremely collaborative game where you have 10 big youtubers streamers anything

00:25:55.400 in one lobby at a time it would be naive of me and and and also just unfair to myself who's been

00:26:02.100 a gamer my whole life and loves playing all sorts of games to not go and try it and then just so

00:26:06.100 happened that you know it lit and now it's it's crazy with how it's been performing um so in a

00:26:11.880 way in a way you're you're you're playing smart you're playing you're you're moving where the

00:26:17.100 attention is i mean yes or no you don't really if there's one thing you do in this world you

00:26:20.660 don't really work for free so most times i'm playing games i'm streaming yep so uh there's

00:26:25.340 a couple games i'll play off stream right now i just played world of warcraft the last couple

00:26:28.540 months waiting for the new expansion to come out um that i'll probably stream a bit coming up and 0.68

00:26:32.800 it's fucking just as much of an addiction as when i was 14 you know geek about this forever hey bro 0.87

00:26:38.740 listen new expansion in a month come play logan no no no what else are we doing that game ruined 0.98

00:26:42.760 my life it ruined my life i'm thankful for it honestly because after my like little two-year

00:26:49.420 stint of world of warcraft was done i was i i've i as a 14 year old i knew what addiction was

00:26:56.380 it probably honestly was the reason i didn't do drugs and drink in high school like the rest of

00:27:01.640 my friends because my mom was like yo alcoholism runs in our family like my my uh my dad was

00:27:07.540 addicted his my uncle was addicted and i the word addicted until you experience it like you you don't

00:27:14.680 know if it applies to you or not and gaming specifically world of workouts i just got so

00:27:19.220 sucked in yeah and so you play off stream how do you balance that and and and know when you need

00:27:29.200 to throw a red flag up i i've taken this too i've it's 7 a.m right now and i'm not even streaming

00:27:33.940 yeah no i thankfully haven't had too many of those um i typically stay on my schedule pretty

00:27:38.540 well but it's more like hey if i do a stream from 9 a.m to 2 p.m in the day then i'll get off to a

00:27:44.540 couple business calls the new youtube video will go out or something hang out with with my girlfriend

00:27:48.360 then she'll go she's taking chinese right now chinese lessons she'll go to start a chinese

00:27:51.920 lesson you know i'm in a world of warcraft raid and i'm like maybe this will be three hours so

00:27:56.520 keep working after that and then i'll get off at like 9 9 30 what do you play as 1.00

00:28:01.040 blood elf rogue uh toward mean illidan mean stabbing motherfuckers dps can i curse motherfuckers 1.00

00:28:08.100 yeah of course you can you can stab a motherfucker on here yeah sure i saw some knives when i walked 1.00

00:28:13.520 in oh yeah oh yeah do you ever look into the future and see this vr world and be like i'm 1.00

00:28:17.840 gonna be killing this shit i wanted to ask him about this or do you think you're just gonna sit 0.99

00:28:21.440 that one out and be like no fuck that no vr vr it has has already had a couple of explosion moments 0.99

00:28:26.800 on streaming one of which is called this like vr chat and it's basically literally just a lobby 0.97

00:28:31.220 that you can go into you can make any avatar for yourself you can make yourself look like anything

00:28:35.980 you want talk like anything you want and it's got the full body tracking so like it looks like if a

00:28:41.420 breakdancer goes in this game and starts breakdancing it looks like the character is

00:28:44.520 breakdancing right in front of you i was saying this because we did a vr session and i go there's

00:28:49.260 going to be a time in the house in the future where there's always going to be a vr room in

00:28:53.680 the house absolutely where there's cameras everywhere and you could literally visit family

00:28:58.280 members so it would be a custom living room that would be in every house and then you could sit on

00:29:02.340 the couch talking to your loved ones that's in australia and all that stuff and i think that's

00:29:05.520 going to be crazy have you guys ever seen like ready player one oh yeah of course so yeah so

00:29:10.320 that's like and it's what's funny is like elon musk has even talked about this and life being

00:29:14.960 a simulation and stuff but i think like vr and ar is a perfect example of of with how far technology

00:29:20.820 is gone think back to when we were young or just before i mean mike's pretty old so move the rest

00:29:25.340 of us yeah um so you know when mike was 15 or when we were just born um these games that were

00:29:32.080 like 8-bit and and and 2d and barely had anything to them and you can and they were on these

00:29:37.100 cartridges that were like 12 megabytes and you had to blow them exactly remember that

00:29:41.100 but it wasn't working yet of course yeah you know what's funny is the the graphics it was 0.53

00:29:47.360 show crap but during scary games i'd still be scared as shit terrified i mean that's all our

00:29:52.500 brains knew but now you have vr and and ar and these things keep improving and now they're 0.98

00:29:57.820 wireless and soon they're going to be probably just one strip you wear over your eyes and next

00:30:01.240 you know you'll have a haptic suit like in ready player one that elon musk has talked about this

00:30:05.880 and there's games like the sims which is simulating real life well with how far technology has gone

00:30:10.660 in the last 25 years with how exponential it's been there's been more technological advances

00:30:16.160 in the last 25 years

00:30:17.900 than there were in the 1,000 years prior.

00:30:20.320 So if you take the year 3,000,

00:30:22.020 which is, you know, whatever,

00:30:23.080 1,000 years from now,

00:30:24.740 what is to say that they can't simulate consciousness

00:30:27.920 in these games,

00:30:28.860 and right now we are not

00:30:30.120 little Jimmy's Sims game

00:30:32.300 that is played that is...

00:30:34.420 By another civilization.

00:30:36.000 By just advanced humans.

00:30:37.220 It is the first year 3,000.

00:30:38.860 That'll happen within 150 years.

00:30:41.880 I swear to God, it's insane.

00:30:43.620 The VR place that he's talking about,

00:30:45.480 i think it's called true vr uh you should go okay if you haven't yet they put you in these suits

00:30:50.940 hands i think shoulders some shoes knee and they give you a gun and when you pull the trigger on

00:30:58.900 the gun in real life it recoils it shakes so when you put on this uh suit with your teammates you

00:31:05.220 literally run around this giant room and actually play within the game my question to you is when

00:31:12.120 And that advances to a point where you can have your VR room in your house and who knows,

00:31:16.700 maybe you're on a treadmill or there's like some sort of ball where you can run around.

00:31:20.500 I'm just going to let you know, glitching is going to hurt.

00:31:22.400 It's going to hurt badly.

00:31:23.660 So that's what my question is.

00:31:25.960 Do you play video games because you can have this high adrenaline energy rush, essentially

00:31:32.000 being static, seated?

00:31:34.140 Or do you think when VR is at a place where people, if they want to be good and want to

00:31:39.200 win, if they have to be really active, you exit the game sweating.

00:31:41.680 you play for three hours you've had your workout for the day do you think that will

00:31:45.420 decrease the amount of people who are interested in playing that type of game

00:31:49.080 um thankfully i think there's an audience for everything i mean i'm not interested in mobile

00:31:53.640 gaming mobile gaming is like the biggest industry in the world like it like for for video games it's

00:31:58.020 insane but i'm not interested in vr there are people that have every vr headset and are up to

00:32:02.860 date on every vr news and you can't even begin to think about some of the stuff that they know

00:32:06.720 that i don't about vr do you think it would be more popular than the static in your chair at

00:32:13.400 the computer gaming uh it'll come down to price i think barrier of entry of vr and paying for

00:32:19.040 something like that will will always hinder the ability for people to get in mobile gaming is

00:32:24.080 the biggest because well everyone's got a damn phone and a lot of these games are free to play

00:32:27.960 so you just have your phone you download a game and now you're mobile gaming whereas a console 0.72

00:32:32.900 consoles of 300 to 500 dollar barrier of entry a pc is like 800 to 1500 and vr is probably more

00:32:40.820 on that level so ease of access yeah i'm just picturing like imagine an arena and all these

00:32:46.140 people have vr headsets on and they're diving over barriers and like like like war you literally

00:32:51.200 took that image out of my head i said to myself this i go i don't and mind you i love sports i

00:32:56.680 love playing sports and sometimes i like watching basketball i would never watch a basketball game

00:33:01.600 again if people are running around shooting each other and just like you could see two screens one

00:33:05.780 of their actual point of view and then one what they're seeing in the game i mean to think of 0.76

00:33:09.040 like the romans and uh you know gladiators and shit like imagine if i know it's so crazy to say 0.98

00:33:15.460 and someone will clip this and be like wow that's the most virgin shit i've ever heard but like 0.98

00:33:18.600 imagine that but you're you're sitting in vr in like a coliseum and you're watching people fight 0.99

00:33:23.900 like that right in front of you like it's almost like you're you know a viewer or an experiencer

00:33:28.020 the next Logan Paul versus KSI fight

00:33:30.420 is in VR. Wow.

00:33:32.780 Yo, that's not too

00:33:34.400 far-fetched. I swear to God, 50 years

00:33:36.500 from now, I'll be fighting KSI again.

00:33:38.940 And our audience can be at home,

00:33:40.700 slip on a headset, and be in the stadium.

00:33:43.000 In the front row. Forget the stadium.

00:33:44.540 What if they're seeing from your point of view?

00:33:46.100 They can switch from back and forth. Well, now I have to be wearing

00:33:48.340 a headset while I'm fighting. You're in a

00:33:50.400 VR room. No, no, no. I'm talking about me, actually.

00:33:52.300 And they could join in the

00:33:54.360 stadium and be at the front row in the

00:33:56.340 stadium in Australia. That's already happening, too.

00:33:58.540 The digital audience is happening for the NBA

00:34:00.380 bubble. Have you seen that? So you can actually buy

00:34:02.360 tickets to the finals,

00:34:04.880 sit in front of a camera

00:34:06.540 at your house, then be in the front row on a screen

00:34:08.680 in the NBA bubble. Insane.

00:34:10.360 Crazy. I even think about,

00:34:12.440 I talked about this,

00:34:14.040 because I just invested a lot of money into

00:34:16.280 Pokemon cards, and people

00:34:18.300 ask me, obviously, do you think this market's going to crash?

00:34:21.200 Historically, the answer is no.

00:34:22.480 It absolutely could. I say I don't

00:34:24.420 think so, especially because

00:34:26.340 the 25th anniversary is next year.

00:34:28.900 But imagine when you're in VR

00:34:30.400 and you turn to your left,

00:34:33.000 you're playing the Pokemon game,

00:34:33.800 you turn to your left

00:34:34.300 and there's your Charizard.

00:34:35.480 Your Charizard, your boy, your pet. 0.99

00:34:37.320 Five foot seven fucking fire dragon 1.00

00:34:39.120 standing next to you 1.00

00:34:40.200 battling a Blastoise.

00:34:42.320 Like...

00:34:42.800 That would be a bad fight for the Charizard.

00:34:44.320 For the Charizard.

00:34:45.220 Or just being a...

00:34:46.100 He could use fly

00:34:46.900 and escape a couple of attacks.

00:34:49.080 But the point is,

00:34:50.420 the possibilities,

00:34:52.500 I mean, just for life in general,

00:34:53.920 especially for VR

00:34:54.840 and that immersive world are endless.

00:34:58.520 And listen, you invested in the Pokemon cards,

00:35:00.140 which is the number one earning media franchise of all time,

00:35:02.240 like $100 billion.

00:35:03.000 Plus $90 billion ahead of all of them.

00:35:05.640 I think you'll be all right.

00:35:06.520 I think something tells me.

00:35:09.300 Pokemon is pretty big.

00:35:10.660 Yeah, it's pretty big.

00:35:12.240 But yeah, insane, bro.

00:35:14.000 We'll see what happens.

00:35:14.720 I mean, I think to completely be such a hater on it,

00:35:20.300 there are some people that are like, 1.00

00:35:21.040 man, VR gaming is so shit. 1.00

00:35:22.380 Yeah, sure. 1.00

00:35:23.480 Of course it is now.

00:35:24.400 entry level like vr gaming is if you like put the equivalent back to like playing a game from the

00:35:29.480 19th late 1970s right now but 20 years from now i think that people's minds will change a lot i

00:35:34.900 think people are underestimating it we we played at the place in santa monica that he was talking

00:35:38.420 about it was amazing yeah it was a lot of fun they had coolest experience of my life they had

00:35:42.000 like if you're on top of a building and there's wind blowing they have fans set up if you get

00:35:46.140 close to a fire that's in the game there's heaters in the room that crazy no because smells you could 1.00

00:35:51.920 be an absolute pussy in real life like you could just suck your whatever but you put on this headset 1.00

00:35:58.540 and you're the shit zombies are coming at you you take out your chainsaw you chainsaw and zombies 1.00

00:36:04.840 in this game you're using the shotgun bro i was hip firing i'm in there i'm hip i'm like 1.00

00:36:10.800 and it was i felt like the coolest guy in the world yeah i want to rewind rewind the clock

00:36:16.960 with you sure because i think you have a pretty interesting story how you even got into all this

00:36:21.220 and knowing that you were this personality

00:36:23.400 and you had this energy that people liked.

00:36:25.420 You were in college and you were working for a media firm?

00:36:30.320 Yeah, I mean, Major League Gaming was the first company

00:36:32.560 that I had an internship for, so that I would kind of count.

00:36:35.940 And then what happened?

00:36:37.320 Naysha kind of hinted at this, but I want to hear the story from you

00:36:39.780 where one day you hopped in, right?

00:36:42.020 You substituted for someone who wasn't there that day.

00:36:44.680 Yeah, yeah.

00:36:45.440 So I've always been to multi-camera production.

00:36:47.960 I love kind of what you guys just experienced, right?

00:36:50.480 you're going about your day there's a great crew that gets everything set up but i love that you

00:36:54.220 can just sit down we're good we're good and action and we're ready to go that's what i loved way more

00:36:58.820 than taking film because i went i was going to school for media and film so other things that

00:37:02.860 i like about film sure but it really grinds my gears and a lot of film is kind of hurry up and

00:37:06.880 wait and it's like all right break down set up you know and come on in do this 38 times all right

00:37:13.580 break down set up that that tilted me so i got into multi-camera production was going more down

00:37:18.240 that track and i had been an unpaid media intern at major league gaming which is based on 34th and

00:37:22.560 park in new york city and i was a video editing intern i was cutting up highlights on the weekends

00:37:28.200 with no air conditioning during like their major events and i was like man i want to be there one

00:37:31.520 day and uh and one day chris puckett the main host of the show he was the only on-air talent

00:37:37.000 at major league gaming at the time he uh he was gonna be homesick and we spent the whole morning

00:37:41.640 setting up for the show that was at like 3 p.m and they were kind of having the decision right

00:37:45.580 in front of me you know ron and brian who were the producer and director of the show was on the

00:37:49.800 phone with chris and they're like i mean we can cancel and like it was one of those moments that

00:37:53.340 you kind of see in like a disney movie where one of the characters like steps up blurt something 0.93

00:37:57.700 out of their mouth and is like i literally was like i think i can do it did i really just fucking 0.76

00:38:02.420 say that and they were like chris you like they were like you what do you think he's like hell 0.97

00:38:07.860 yeah let him have a shot and then i wound up hosting the show like 40 days with him in a row

00:38:12.200 until i went back to school after that so that was like my first on-camera experience for an

00:38:16.600 actual company i did stuff back in high school too that's so cool i remember with the fortnight

00:38:20.840 uh what are they called pro-am the pro-am uh yeah i think it was the first time i saw you cast

00:38:24.740 and i was like holy shit this guy's really got something yeah that one that the first program i

00:38:29.980 wound up playing in and got second which was crazy that was half a million for for uh my charity which

00:38:34.720 was the aneurysm and abm foundation and then uh from then on out the world cup everything like

00:38:39.680 that yeah i was i was like their number one casting partner alongside uh this great great

00:38:44.840 guy dr lupo great friend of mine of course um so yeah casting is still a total passion of mine but

00:38:50.920 if there's one thing it's like i it's crazy to think but if i can be paid x amount to stream

00:38:56.960 for two hours and do a sponsored stream you know casting rates just don't really go to

00:39:01.620 what some of these brands will offer for for me to stream so it's like hey do you want to go cast

00:39:07.020 an entire weekend for three days travel you know on plane everything for this much or literally do

00:39:13.300 two two-hour streams for the same rate what what would you rather do and i'm like okay i mean

00:39:17.900 staying home is nice so so bringing it back for you like blurting out and change was that the

00:39:23.940 moment that kind of changed your life yeah yeah for sure um that's crazy to me because we always

00:39:29.200 speak this out to people yeah you can't let fear dictate your future and you stepped up and changed 0.99

00:39:34.820 your whole fucking life 0.98

00:39:36.320 by just stepping up 1.00

00:39:37.140 and just being like

00:39:37.580 I could do it guys

00:39:38.480 because a lot of people

00:39:39.440 would be paralyzed

00:39:40.040 and they'd be like

00:39:40.480 no I'll just sit here

00:39:41.220 summarize succinctly

00:39:43.300 never ever be afraid

00:39:45.440 to hear no

00:39:45.980 yeah

00:39:46.520 never

00:39:47.000 wow that's crazy

00:39:48.880 never

00:39:49.180 like bro who cares

00:39:50.520 I think I could do it

00:39:52.160 nah not this time

00:39:53.240 alright

00:39:53.520 I'll try again next time 1.00

00:39:54.820 oh the 6ix9ine thing 1.00

00:39:55.980 I came up to this 1.00

00:39:56.520 like yo man

00:39:56.840 I think I could do this

00:39:57.660 I said okay

00:39:59.840 you probably could

00:40:02.940 but i believe in i believe in you georgie don't let me down but even if you did it even if you

00:40:08.740 said no that wouldn't even that would do nothing to like dictate our friendship at all be like no

00:40:13.960 okay cool but absolutely and also also and i'm sure you have people come up to you in the streets

00:40:18.760 all the time and ask you for you know god knows what i you know i'm sure you're at dinner and

00:40:24.760 people come up and pitch you an app and or they want to connect with you we'll get a lot of business

00:40:28.340 emails and people in my chat and of course all sorts of stuff like that yeah if you're if you're

00:40:32.460 willing and you have uh the balls to be able to ask someone something and you put yourself out

00:40:39.060 there you have to also be willing to be receptive to being shut down that's that's that's kind of 0.91

00:40:43.900 my rule my thing is if you have the audacity to approach me after dinner and pitch me an app

00:40:48.560 you i'll i'm gonna have the audacity to say no if i don't feel like it right it's it's a two-way

00:40:53.780 street yep nothing's personal be willing to put yourself out there and don't be afraid to fail

00:40:58.140 and hear no as an answer the chemistry you have with lupo when you're on those streams with all

00:41:04.480 your boys when you're when you're gaming yeah where does that come from is it only from uh

00:41:09.940 that internet connection when you guys game yeah or because mike and i have a good uh chemistry 0.98

00:41:15.620 because we hang out in real life we're roommates we hop in this podcast it's the same bullshit we

00:41:18.980 talk about yeah is it just because you're always just streaming and chatting it up yeah i mean

00:41:23.220 before the big c there were so many events that were going on and and we we would also hang out

00:41:27.800 at those so you know it was always a good time getting drinks and we'd go and that would kind

00:41:33.200 of mentally reset you'd get to meet the fans you get to participate in these awesome into in you

00:41:38.000 know in-person tournaments or cast or be in these great locations and you know next thing you know

00:41:43.460 those all stop so it's been a little bit tougher but yeah a lot of that just came from hey i'm a

00:41:47.980 fan of what you do you're a fan of what i do our audiences have been saying we should game together

00:41:51.700 let's give it a shot and now a game like among us which is going on right now which is these

00:41:56.660 10 person lobbies it's like so many creators i've been able to collaborate with that i've dreamed

00:42:02.580 of in the last three weeks has been insane um to to be joining up with and it's the idea of like a

00:42:08.180 rising tide raises all ships you'll go on any youtube video that i've had with people for the

00:42:11.760 last two and a half years and you will find their link in the description saying hey you like how i

00:42:16.660 banter with lupo go sub to dr lupo i don't ask that anyone from return in return but if lupo then 0.87

00:42:21.640 starts getting more eyes on him and his shit starts growing then guess what people are going 0.96

00:42:25.640 to see more me and come and find me more success breeds success yeah part of the reason i love 0.99

00:42:31.140 having him on he's a creator he's hungry and he just amplifies everything this podcast does

00:42:36.260 of course um yeah i was always impressed with how you guys got along so well yeah i have to ask when 0.95

00:42:41.580 you guys go out and real life you hang out real life are y'all getting fucked up are y'all like 0.99

00:42:46.060 partying y'all going crazy well listen i mean shit yeah yeah i definitely do no i i think uh 0.99

00:42:53.220 But everyone's a little bit different, right? 0.99

00:42:55.080 You've got Lupo, who's a dad.

00:42:57.080 He's more – he's in his mid-30s.

00:43:02.180 What's him getting hammered do for him right now in his life?

00:43:04.420 He's like, you know what?

00:43:05.040 I'll have a couple whiskey drinks, and then I'm going to go to bed with my beautiful wife and wake up nice and early for the next day with my cup of coffee, right?

00:43:12.140 But then you've got younger creators and these people that are now in this, and they're working hard but playing hard on the weekends too.

00:43:19.220 I had my phase of that back when I was cast, you know, traveling 27 weeks of the year.

00:43:23.600 It's like, hey, you do a huge event Sunday night.

00:43:26.520 Oh, there's tabs open from the different sponsors and companies at this.

00:43:29.600 Great.

00:43:29.920 Let me have a double vodka Red Bull and a shot of 40, like 1942.

00:43:34.060 And you're like, great, here we go.

00:43:35.000 When you were single, was it ever like a nice line to like, yo, do you have a game to a girl at a bar?

00:43:40.640 Oh, yeah.

00:43:41.120 How does that work? 0.81

00:43:42.480 So we went to the Nobu White Party on 4th of July last year.

00:43:46.600 That's a hot party. 0.94

00:43:47.540 It was.

00:43:47.900 By the way, that's very hard to get into.

00:43:50.500 Yeah, it was an incredible experience.

00:43:53.340 Our buddy, I'm sure you guys have met him, Kyle McCarthy, who runs all the parties at Notch's house.

00:43:59.100 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:00.120 Yeah, he's a great friend of mine.

00:44:01.140 He was like, hey, you guys want to come to this?

00:44:02.380 And I had no idea what it was.

00:44:04.260 And I was like, you know, I think I'm going to have a barbecue with the boys.

00:44:07.060 And then one of our other buddies who was going was like, I don't think you realize, Jack, you do want to go.

00:44:12.460 So we're like, all right, let's go.

00:44:13.520 Show up in red. 1.00

00:44:14.040 You're like, fucking Jack. 1.00

00:44:15.000 so uh we were going to that and we were taking a party bus there and uh we had a table for like 1.00

00:44:19.680 25 of us when we got there and i was like what am i going to say to these people like i'm looking

00:44:25.120 around on them like there's saquon barkley they're like carl anthony towns we had just had on the

00:44:29.180 courage and nade shot show i'm like dapping him up i'm like is that sean mendez are those 0.99

00:44:32.680 the hadith like gg and bella hadith i'm like what the fuck is going on what is my fat ass doing 0.96

00:44:37.840 here and at that time fortnight was at its still peak so i was like you know what i was like i'm 0.96

00:44:42.980 gonna go up to girls and be like you know you ever heard of fortnight i'm fortnight i am fortnight

00:44:49.200 like it's a dj name like skrillex like wow you're fortnight

00:44:55.540 didn't work so it didn't work no no i definitely left by myself no no slightly close to mine

00:45:03.820 instead of saying fortnight i'd be like do you know foreplay and she's like yeah come let's get

00:45:08.080 out of here that could work but there was a time where that wouldn't work i have a hard time

00:45:13.560 believing it won't now like honestly gaming and gamers have sprung into the mainstream

00:45:20.200 celebrities as cool as cool people celebrities like athletes athletes seriously like there was 0.98

00:45:24.940 a time where it's like oh game nerd now it's like oh you fucking game how much money do you make 0.77

00:45:29.080 you're oh you're cool you have a personality let's hang out also you know i'm not a huge fan 0.98

00:45:33.540 no boozey tiger wow wow wow dude i got it i like i brought all my friends from arizona would come

00:45:38.540 i was like you know what guys don't worry about like i got it the bill came and i don't mind 0.71

00:45:41.800 paying a big bill if i invite my friends but i was fucking starving when the bill came like like 0.80

00:45:47.080 the guy goes yes the steak it's for everybody it's a shareable steak comes out some four ounces i 0.96

00:45:52.300 thought the i thought the chef wanted me to taste it bro welcome to the fine gourmet delicacies

00:45:56.340 of los angeles luxury dude i went back to jack in the box on the way home seven dollars 83 cents

00:46:01.980 it's right across the street 0.97

00:46:02.900 I was fucking in heaven 0.99

00:46:03.600 I know what 0.98

00:46:04.860 Jack in a Box

00:46:05.520 are talking about

00:46:06.000 it's right across the street 1.00

00:46:06.820 my ass is hate there 1.00

00:46:09.160 dude I couldn't 1.00

00:46:10.100 I could not do it

00:46:11.700 I couldn't do it

00:46:12.660 yeah that adds up quick

00:46:13.980 most common misconception

00:46:15.360 about gamers 0.98

00:46:16.340 big dicks 0.99

00:46:17.900 huge 0.99

00:46:19.080 yeah no I'm real average

00:46:20.300 just a warning

00:46:21.300 I'm not even average

00:46:22.340 no no no

00:46:23.080 there's

00:46:23.360 there's

00:46:23.960 there's some out there

00:46:25.320 I mean I think the one

00:46:26.660 that you just mentioned

00:46:27.320 is like listen 0.97

00:46:28.140 yeah I play a fuck ton

00:46:29.800 of video games 0.68

00:46:30.340 but you better believe

00:46:31.140 I can be put in any social setting

00:46:32.580 and more than hold my own and handle my own.

00:46:36.080 I think that that's a big one that is going away, right?

00:46:39.080 We're not all just shut-ins who do that.

00:46:41.180 It's like the way that it used to be in the 90s

00:46:43.580 and the movies in the 2000s

00:46:45.020 where the gamer was in the dark basement

00:46:46.440 has come and gone, right?

00:46:49.580 I think that that's a big one.

00:46:52.260 Another one is like, this can't be a career.

00:46:55.140 Listen, right now, if you're working a side hustle

00:46:57.880 and your streaming starts to take off a bit

00:46:59.380 And you're making – let's just put you at $1,000 a month on the side that you're making.

00:47:05.340 You're technically becoming a streamer, right?

00:47:08.040 You're consistent.

00:47:09.000 You're holding a second job that's now supplemental income, which is huge for people.

00:47:13.220 And that's how the dream starts.

00:47:15.100 I didn't become the audience at the size that I am and get a contract with YouTube that I now have overnight.

00:47:22.560 I had my four-viewer streams, three-viewer streams for a while.

00:47:27.240 You're doing it because you loved it first.

00:47:28.760 oh yeah of course

00:47:29.720 does it ever

00:47:30.160 when you're like gaming

00:47:31.020 and you're like

00:47:31.560 doing a brand deal

00:47:32.420 or noticing this

00:47:33.560 40,000 people watching

00:47:35.360 do you ever just have

00:47:36.560 a moment to yourself

00:47:37.300 and like 1.00

00:47:37.740 damn 0.99

00:47:38.560 that's a stadium 1.00

00:47:39.640 that's crazy

00:47:40.680 that's a stadium

00:47:41.340 how many people

00:47:41.920 are sitting back

00:47:42.840 and there's also

00:47:44.080 question for you

00:47:44.860 this is just

00:47:45.300 hitting me right now

00:47:45.880 do you ever get nervous

00:47:46.880 thankfully

00:47:47.960 that's one thing

00:47:49.220 I can say for sure

00:47:50.000 that I don't really

00:47:50.860 feel nervous

00:47:51.640 when I used to be

00:47:52.300 a commentator

00:47:52.880 and I'd be hearing

00:47:54.540 the director in my ear

00:47:55.240 you know hey

00:47:55.740 we're coming to you

00:47:57.040 in 5, 4

00:47:58.260 Or I would feel like that little bit of butterflies for the second. 0.99

00:48:01.180 But then I would go from, you know, Jack to ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Impulsive Live from Logan Paul's fucking garage. 0.97

00:48:08.980 There's about do you want a job? 0.98

00:48:12.140 Let's go. 0.98

00:48:13.340 I'll just put my shit back and I'll see you guys later. 0.98

00:48:15.460 It was a good two shows. 0.99

00:48:17.520 If you can survive and conquer that in your ear, five, four, three.

00:48:23.340 Because to me and to him, he's done. 0.99

00:48:25.440 That is the most stressful shit ever. 0.98

00:48:27.380 when you are having to listen 0.99

00:48:29.440 and also speak

00:48:30.760 about the topic at hand

00:48:32.160 if you can do that

00:48:33.020 you can probably do anything

00:48:34.060 oh yeah

00:48:34.380 and then when it's live

00:48:35.260 and you know

00:48:35.900 for the world cup

00:48:37.060 the Arthur Ashe

00:48:38.060 tennis stadium last year

00:48:39.120 30 million dollars

00:48:40.100 on the line

00:48:40.680 10 million concurrent viewers

00:48:42.660 17,000 people

00:48:43.880 sold out in the arena

00:48:44.760 30 of my family members there 0.98

00:48:46.720 it's like 90 fucking degrees 0.98

00:48:48.520 in this tennis stadium 0.98

00:48:49.240 always

00:48:49.600 I'm sweating my ass off

00:48:51.140 it's so humid

00:48:51.800 and I'm just like

00:48:52.880 try not to lose my voice

00:48:53.860 because they got those

00:48:54.400 haze machines going off

00:48:55.520 so like

00:48:56.080 but the audience doesn't know

00:48:56.980 as Lupo was literally getting steroids injected into him

00:49:00.880 prior to the show starting

00:49:02.580 because literally his voice was shot from just the rehearsals

00:49:05.480 and I was feeling my voice go.

00:49:06.580 So I didn't speak a word for the four hours

00:49:08.920 leading up to broadcast.

00:49:09.940 I was having the singer's throat spray,

00:49:12.740 the extreme edition.

00:49:14.280 Yeah, of course.

00:49:14.840 I had 84 cough drops.

00:49:15.380 Of course.

00:49:15.820 And I'm sitting there going,

00:49:17.740 oh my God, I'm about to have the biggest championship

00:49:19.200 Sunday of my career.

00:49:20.240 We're about to break every viewership record,

00:49:21.640 the biggest day in my career.

00:49:22.920 And I don't know if my voice is going to work

00:49:25.180 when I start speaking.

00:49:26.160 Wow.

00:49:26.520 And I'm just like, and they're like five, four, and I feel that moment of nervousness.

00:49:30.860 And when I had done a rehearsal earlier in the day, it was like, ladies, and I could

00:49:34.840 feel like the raspiness.

00:49:36.120 And I just started, and I was like, ladies and gentlemen, and I just felt like the full

00:49:40.000 boom in my voice. 1.00

00:49:40.700 I'm like, I fucking got this shit. 1.00

00:49:42.700 Let's go. 1.00

00:49:43.340 And then it crossed.

00:49:44.040 You painted such a beautiful picture in my head.

00:49:45.880 Like, I actually pictured all this stuff happening.

00:49:47.760 Thank you.

00:49:48.260 I definitely have done a lot of play-by-play commentary, and that helps you paint a picture

00:49:52.440 for people to understand.

00:49:53.600 You talk about the nerves and that the nerves don't bother you, but you also do talk a lot about anxiety, especially on Twitter, because I follow all your tweets and you struggle with anxiety.

00:50:03.540 If it's not a countdown before thousands of fans or a live stream in front of thousands of fans, what is it you think that causes the anxiety that you struggle with?

00:50:12.760 I mean, I've definitely had a big bout with it in the past few weeks.

00:50:16.320 You've reached out and been so helpful, so I'm really grateful.

00:50:18.820 And so many people online.

00:50:19.800 I'm someone that loves to share my audience when the highs are great.

00:50:22.840 If I can share that I just bought my dream car and this Lamborghini, I can sure as hell share to my young audience that I'm struggling with anxiety and that they're not alone on this. 0.95

00:50:30.080 It would be stupid of me to use my platform in only the positive ways and be that typical bullshit influencer that I'm not being real with my audience. 0.76

00:50:39.440 So yeah, it had been pretty rough. 0.97

00:50:42.000 Last week was probably the toughest week of sleep I've ever had in my life.

00:50:45.720 And my anxiety is that I get catastrophic thoughts.

00:50:48.800 so for example i'll wake up one day and i'll be like wow why do why do why does my arm feel weird

00:50:54.720 and i'm like god do i have a did i have a fucking stroke that's what my mind tells me it's like did 0.56

00:50:58.740 i have a an aneurysm overnight or i have a uh i'll i'll go to bed and feel my heartbeat because i 0.96

00:51:05.000 finally slow down because i never disconnect which i'm learning that i need to disconnect more

00:51:08.600 so i finally slow down and i can feel like my body doing its natural movements and i'm like

00:51:12.980 well why do i feel my heartbeat is my heart beating out of my chest i'm gonna have a heart

00:51:17.660 attack that's what my mind says so it's health anxiety is is is one for me i have a fear of of

00:51:22.780 bad news where like if i go to the doctor they're going to find something bad and i know it's

00:51:26.800 counterproductive because you want them to find whatever bad it could be as early as possible

00:51:30.680 but then i have a fear of going because the fear of hearing that i have something bad are you a

00:51:34.980 hypochondriac my girlfriend is and now that we've spent so much time together she's definitely rubbed

00:51:39.680 off on me on the hypochondriac right yes we joke about that you know i've helped her with uh getting

00:51:45.160 getting her please and thank yous better.

00:51:47.000 And,

00:51:47.400 and she's given me hypochondriac and rubbed off.

00:51:51.400 You really good trade off.

00:51:52.380 One thing that's,

00:51:53.060 that's good too,

00:51:53.580 is you don't just talk about how you're feeling that day or,

00:51:57.100 or,

00:51:57.620 you know,

00:51:58.180 the situation you're dealing with.

00:51:59.660 You talk about coping tactics and you actually share the coping tactics that

00:52:03.020 are working for you.

00:52:04.420 No phone one hour before bed.

00:52:06.340 Yep.

00:52:06.840 And you found that helped a lot.

00:52:08.260 Yeah.

00:52:08.500 Reading,

00:52:08.980 reading before bed.

00:52:09.800 We have these lights called Casper lights that automatically dim for 45

00:52:14.400 minutes before bed.

00:52:14.960 So you just flip them over, and they'll slowly start dimming across 45 minutes.

00:52:18.840 So it'll help your body naturally slow down.

00:52:22.920 I just started reading the book Dune because there's that movie coming out with Timothy Chalamet and Dennis Villanueva.

00:52:29.160 Yep, Villanueva, whatever it is, yeah.

00:52:31.680 So that's going to be something I look forward to.

00:52:34.500 Exercise.

00:52:35.480 Exercise, which has been – I fell off due to my grind of World of Warcraft, but now it's been kicking back into gear.

00:52:40.900 So that was me.

00:52:42.120 Yesterday, I also kicked caffeine last week, which I'm doing all this.

00:52:47.660 My anxiety is bad, and then I'm also having caffeine withdrawal.

00:52:49.860 So I'm waking up feeling more sluggish than ever.

00:52:52.440 I had a ripping headache.

00:52:54.040 I'm trying to get back into working out.

00:52:55.820 Without caffeine.

00:52:56.640 Barely sleeping overnight.

00:52:57.700 How much caffeine were you intaking?

00:52:58.960 And, you know, I wasn't taking any extreme amount, like, let's say, one sugar-free energy drink a day, which was between 80 and 120 milligrams of caffeine.

00:53:06.560 That's not bad at all.

00:53:07.080 It's not bad.

00:53:07.620 For somebody with anxiety.

00:53:08.520 anxiety but yeah but when when this is happening to me and it starts i was filming a commercial for

00:53:13.920 chipotle and i'm sitting here and i'm going like wow i'm on four hours of sleep and i'm someone

00:53:19.200 that's on set that i never want to be the the issue i'm i always try to be high spirits let's 0.99

00:53:24.240 get everyone through this let's do this right you know we're gonna need to take a shot 20 fucking 0.98

00:53:27.360 times i'm not gonna complain i don't care but like that day i was dragging ass and i wasn't 0.98

00:53:31.480 being an issue on set but i wasn't being my normal self so i was feeling my nighttime anxiety impact 0.73

00:53:36.000 my day-to-day work and when that was starting to happen i was like yeah i'm gonna attack this from

00:53:41.400 all fronts so two different therapists talk to a psychiatrist talk to my doctor got a weighted

00:53:46.180 blanket got a lavender diffuser started working out again got rid of the phone before bed you know

00:53:51.060 uh started taking a licorice root supplement in the morning to help my cortisol levels during the 0.93

00:53:56.300 day i i have attacked this from every goddamn front you can imagine because and now i've had 0.52

00:54:01.140 two nights sleep in a row great nights of sleep last four to five have been great so it's i'm 0.77

00:54:05.380 improving for sure and i can say that like i'm not having that on edge or that kind of jittery

00:54:10.880 feeling of like anxiety that's that sleeplessness was always a massive contributor to my rises in

00:54:18.380 anxiety and it's one of the reasons why i gave up drinking yeah because i would be out partying

00:54:22.580 i'll go to sleep at 4 a.m i would wake up at 9 a.m the next day all four hours five hours of sleep

00:54:26.900 and i would notice that my anxiety was exponentially higher than nights i got good sleep yeah last

00:54:31.660 night since my body was turning inside out because of food poisoning i slept for about two hours

00:54:35.520 today i'm on edge yeah i'm i'm not myself like you just said you know so i think it's so important

00:54:40.900 for people that struggle with anxiety to make sure they're getting a full night's sleep and

00:54:45.600 it sucks when you when you're suffering with that oh sleep is like the number one thing in life for

00:54:49.880 your body like it my girlfriend is so she's literally writing a paper she's in her last

00:54:53.460 class for um for school um that that that is literally about sleep right now she's writing it

00:54:59.380 And she's telling me all these things about how important sleep is and all these studies.

00:55:03.260 And it's crazy what good sleep will do.

00:55:04.740 I realized that in my adult life, 18 to 22, toxic hustle, four or five hours a night, sleep is for the week, sleep when I'm dead.

00:55:11.500 You know, it's the message that the entrepreneurs you see on Instagram preach.

00:55:16.060 Yeah.

00:55:16.720 It's not realistic.

00:55:18.140 I'm an adult. 1.00

00:55:19.180 Yo, if I get six hours, I'm fucked. 1.00

00:55:21.860 Yep. 1.00

00:55:22.420 Especially in training camp.

00:55:23.720 In training camp, I'm at legitimately nine to 11 hours per night.

00:55:27.480 sleep is just it's so important please please listeners do not underestimate sleep like it's

00:55:34.160 not cool to not sleep it's like like it's not cool anymore that's the thought is people are

00:55:38.200 like man as you just mentioned you know time to go and and there's these people that are up they'll

00:55:42.540 work in like tech up in you know north northern california and and they're just like three hours

00:55:48.780 of nights three hours of sleep a night and it's just unsustainable if you if you got to do it

00:55:53.020 though i will say if you got to do it you know you're working on a project you have a deadline

00:55:56.180 you have to like you have to do a gun to head type situation you have to do it in your 20s do

00:56:00.300 it do it in your 20s yeah if you got to do it you got to do it yeah if you're doing it because you

00:56:04.780 think you're going to reach some goal you're much you will be much more effective maximized and

00:56:08.940 optimized when you are on a full night of sleep when you're operating with all your all your

00:56:13.300 energy yeah exercise exercise i presume has also helped i actually wanted to bring up something i

00:56:17.640 was talking to this with my buddy joe and he we were talking about anxiety um what did i cut you

00:56:24.660 off yes did you think of joe mama oh i'm so sorry i was in my head thinking about what i didn't mean

00:56:29.260 to go ahead it's a four-person podcast it happens it's fine he asked about exercise but to counter

00:56:33.960 your point i already asked him about it so it's fine so exercise has been helpful well i mean he

00:56:37.940 just goes exercise guru i want to know what he's doing i want to talk about the peloton i want to

00:56:42.660 talk about his 600 calorie limit like i don't know i'm into i'm into exercise the peloton have

00:56:47.520 you ever thought about getting a road bike like an actual road bike so i have but then i also think

00:56:53.460 like man i'm in la and this is a sketchy ass place to ride a bike around so i'm not trying 0.90

00:56:57.940 to get hit by a car right mike got fucked up i got hit once yeah and i'm trying not to deal with 0.94

00:57:02.420 that at all i read the book i saw you know i i know all about that that experience i had so it's 0.98

00:57:06.320 like fuck i really don't want to uh to risk that but we have we have the peloton let me also have 0.90

00:57:11.660 this that you can see kind of the screen behind me we have like this in the wall machine called 0.98

00:57:15.520 tonal and it's like having a basically a gym oh those are awesome rich's house yeah those are

00:57:21.380 awesome yeah so we have one of those so like i can do i'm working with like a physical trainer

00:57:25.620 buddy now who's like hey here's your goal you do what workout you want to do you have the tonal we

00:57:31.220 have the nice pool in the backyard i can go swim i can we live in a great little area that i can go

00:57:35.280 out for a walk or a run for 45 minutes i can go hike i can do the peloton if those aren't i have

00:57:40.660 so many options do whatever workout excites you that day don't do it just because it's like well

00:57:45.740 time to peloton again if i'm dreading it you know go yeah do a lift or something do you do it before

00:57:50.900 or after you stream i i worked out this morning i find when i work out before my media my thing

00:57:55.780 when i'm at whenever i'm shooting yeah it is exponentially harder i'm sweating right now my

00:58:00.300 cheeks are wet or red that's why i'm sweating i literally peloton took a quick shower right over 0.67

00:58:05.440 here so i'm still like my body's still fucking going you know same um but i like working out 0.67

00:58:10.740 in the morning probably actually work out best when i don't even eat i just get up first thing 0.79

00:58:14.600 i do is just work out and i love that feeling for the rest of my day that no matter what happens in

00:58:20.420 my day if i worked out in the morning my day is going to be a success because even though i don't

00:58:25.320 have the best stream even if even if the rest of my day doesn't maybe go the way i want if i can 0.97

00:58:29.660 work out and then sit on my ass and watch eight episodes of a goddamn tv show but i worked out 0.88

00:58:34.720 and i did something good for myself that day yep and that's why i love it if i if i wait until 0.99

00:58:39.180 after the stream i'll make up so many more excuses i'll be drained as you mentioned from doing an 0.77

00:58:43.360 eight-hour stream on a game like warzone where i'm fucking going the whole damn time trying to 0.86

00:58:47.180 entertain 25 30 000 people that it ends up i'm like do i want to go sit in the hot tub shower 0.93

00:58:53.820 and lay down and scroll tiktok or do i want to go sweat with cody rigsby on peloton as he's 0.64

00:58:59.360 yelling at my ass my favorite performer on there i'm like yeah hot tub nine to ten times sure i'm 0.69

00:59:03.800 happy that you learned how important it is because honestly like exercise as you know because you 0.99

00:59:09.180 read has always been the bedrock of mental health for me yeah like when i'm when i'm working out

00:59:14.300 when i'm spinning pedals or when i'm running if i'm moving my mind stops moving yeah it's like it's

00:59:20.460 like they work in in collaboration with each other so or or vice versa so if one's happening the

00:59:25.240 other one's not yeah and i found it's one of the only things that i can get to slow that down yeah

00:59:29.820 that racing thoughts the catastrophic thoughts the negativity the all or nothing thinking yep

00:59:33.660 when i'm moving yeah so it's great it's it's such a great piece of advice for people out there that

00:59:38.320 are suffering yeah you do a good job of it i'm always impressed yesterday was sunday i see you 0.98

00:59:41.800 walking out back i'm in my boxers like taking a swim i'm like what the fuck you doing bro it's 0.93

00:59:45.880 sunday sunday morning you're going to work out i was just i'm disgusted i have to i have to like 0.97

00:59:52.120 that's what i found out about myself and our friend kevin hines who's obviously you know uh

00:59:56.820 suffered from quite a bit of mental health issues himself has found that if he doesn't do it it's

01:00:01.380 catastrophic to his day and i'm the same way if i don't get my workout in i i will have that

01:00:05.260 anxiety will start to build build build so when i go on a vacation and five days go by and i haven't

01:00:10.060 worked out it's troubling it almost is counterproductive when people are like i'm gonna go

01:00:13.720 for a break on vacation it doesn't work out it's actually really funny we're talking about this

01:00:16.880 because my multitasking skills is shit right now so like you're talking and my mind is like

01:00:23.140 traveling and it's trying to keep up with itself and it is just all over the place but what i was 0.90

01:00:27.780 trying to do before i really interrupted you i'm sorry why am i sorry i'm i'm sorry that i am i'm

01:00:32.280 sorry that i sorry i don't know no it's fine but that's so it's it's like perfect timing i just

01:00:38.000 didn't sleep and that was it but anyways going into it uh do you ever feel that because your

01:00:43.660 career is always thinking 10 steps ahead yeah and you're always trying to fix the problem

01:00:47.380 your mind is trained at 14 hours a day there's going to be something i need to do because you're

01:00:53.020 a self-made man of course do you ever feel that your anxiety comes when you have nothing to do

01:00:57.520 that you just pick a problem to fix oh yeah 100 it's like my brain is always trying to fixate on

01:01:02.040 something i didn't realize how bad i have been where i just don't let myself ever stop that like

01:01:08.660 even if i went downstairs to hang out with with the rest of my roommates you know we have three

01:01:12.420 couples that live in the house if i go downstairs to hang out i'm like oh i'm gonna use my switch

01:01:17.300 and i'll just talk but i'll be playing something on the switch and like even that is detrimental

01:01:22.180 because you know it's like sure that just replaces my phone but it's it's crazy that no matter what

01:01:28.300 problem yeah i need to always be stimulated so that when i don't exactly you just mentioned yeah

01:01:33.020 if i just lay down in bed at night then i'm like why do i feel my heartbeat why do i put my head 0.88

01:01:37.780 to my pillow and hear my blood circulating like do i have a fucking problem these thoughts so do 0.87

01:01:42.240 you like you don't i'm not gonna put it on you i'm gonna put it on me this is a very uh weird 0.98

01:01:46.340 thing to open up publicly but i was against smoking weed 26 years of my life i thought if

01:01:52.020 you ever used like my answer yeah if you ever use a supplement to uh fix yourself that it's a crutch

01:01:56.880 and that it's very weak and in my mind that's how i thought until i did my own research on it

01:02:01.280 obviously got my parents's approval on and i just i had to sit down and then i talked to the doctor 0.55

01:02:05.160 and he's like yo just fucking smoke weed and relax and so i don't use it to create yeah but 0.77

01:02:11.840 there's a time in the night where i will smoke a very tiny bit to give my mind a vacation like i 0.96

01:02:17.360 need to get away with uh not always figuring out i have to do something my mind is like so like i

01:02:23.540 can't sleep i don't sleep have you ever thought about so it's funny you mentioned well you you

01:02:28.240 had mentioned earlier how you didn't drink in high school i didn't drink till i was 21 at all

01:02:31.420 my first drink was 21st birthday a red's apple ale quite the quite the first drink um and then

01:02:36.600 uh i didn't smoke weed i'm 26 now never smoked weed once in my life uh this week i got one of

01:02:41.740 the there's this like pen that is um one part thc to six parts cbd and it's literally called

01:02:47.580 the calm pen and it's meant to help with your people with anxiety and things just like that

01:02:52.180 and yeah it's the first time

01:02:53.220 I've ever tried anything like it

01:02:54.220 and I just hit it like

01:02:55.220 once before bed

01:02:56.000 and I don't even know

01:02:56.920 if it's a placebo effect

01:02:57.780 if it's actually working 0.99

01:02:59.060 but I fucking slept 0.96

01:03:00.680 the last couple nights 0.98

01:03:01.280 so yeah I completely agree

01:03:02.220 the CBD alone will do that

01:03:04.020 CBD is magical

01:03:05.640 CBD is magical

01:03:06.720 yo why is this

01:03:07.640 just now like a thing

01:03:08.960 in the past two years

01:03:09.960 CBD came around

01:03:10.520 there's a law

01:03:11.080 legality of laws

01:03:12.420 it's insane

01:03:13.640 no CBD is illegal

01:03:14.700 in all states

01:03:15.340 it is now

01:03:15.820 no no no it isn't

01:03:16.460 he's saying it wasn't

01:03:17.400 that's why it wasn't

01:03:19.080 oh it wasn't before

01:03:19.320 that's why it wasn't

01:03:19.960 as prominent as it is now

01:03:21.320 it's funny how you mentioned that

01:03:22.040 how it's like so many people use it for so many different things there's uh the real bros of

01:03:25.700 semi-valley which is like cody co in the new season um bryce and the show like breaks both 0.77

01:03:32.100 of his legs in a skating accident he like fucking snaps him in half the plug doc and yeah just pull 0.91

01:03:36.440 the book exactly but like the next episode he's just got this fucking jug of cbd next to him and 0.95

01:03:40.880 he's just rubbing it on his legs and within like three days he's back to skating because he's like 0.95

01:03:45.980 the cbd shit is magical it is i use it all the time i have an ailment do i have i have you can 0.99

01:03:51.000 ask my assistant she has 10 of these little cbd things yeah we need a fucking cbd brand deal 0.99

01:03:55.120 it's in the inbox right now okay okay fantastic i would love to plug a phenomenal cbd do you want 0.74

01:04:00.340 to plug them now no it's not cbd but i got some even better guys looking to last longer and go

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01:04:50.180 dot com promo code logan back to the episode perfect place i'm just rubbing it all over

01:04:55.420 myself my wrist my ankle my torso anytime i'm sore magical i use it i use it a lot too but be

01:05:00.580 careful with the thc breakdown especially six to one because that's actually kind of high they make

01:05:04.920 an 18 to one because as somebody who struggles with uh an anxious mind yeah you may at some

01:05:11.820 point find a weird effect when it comes to psychoactive drugs being added into your into

01:05:16.420 your recipe for success so just be mindful of no for sure i i definitely i'm using it really

01:05:22.260 really sparingly and i've never had any interest to actually smoke weed i just again when i was in 0.79

01:05:26.660 extreme circumstance like last week i was throwing every fucking dart at it that i put me to sleep 0.70

01:05:31.300 yeah what about melatonin that's what i said i said that and use it yeah yeah yeah uh you know 0.87

01:05:36.060 sometimes i'll have three to six milligrams and that's it and and but i always have trippy dreams

01:05:40.940 every time i do that oh for sure i don't like it you know what's funny i never remember my dreams

01:05:45.560 and people say that's not normal no it is what it is that's the most normal thing in the world 0.96

01:05:49.800 oh okay let me tell you guys something right before i smoked weed i knew my shit was bad 0.72

01:05:54.480 and the doctor's like well explain it i go i found out on god i found out about how we have 0.67

01:06:00.740 multiple dreams a night because i was like sitting there my eyes are like going back and i was

01:06:05.500 watching multiple

01:06:07.700 dreams happen at once and then I just

01:06:09.460 knocked out and so I was like I woke up the

01:06:11.520 next day and I googled it and you have like a thousand

01:06:13.360 dreams at night or something like that four to five

01:06:15.120 but close no like four like a thousand

01:06:17.500 thoughts or something like crazy

01:06:18.840 we need a fact check

01:06:20.720 you say so many things I will google this

01:06:23.540 right now hold on

01:06:24.220 what was that ESPN show where they'd end the show

01:06:27.600 with Rome and he would literally just go through 0.98

01:06:29.280 every fact it was like that was completely fucking 0.98

01:06:31.560 wrong 0.95

01:06:31.880 not to put you on a pedestal of

01:06:34.780 invincibility okay um but as someone who has been blessed with not struggling with anxiety

01:06:40.800 and the majority of mental health illness is i have my breakdowns but the only one to see them

01:06:45.420 is usually josie or me sorry babe sorry mike um it's so fascinating to me how when i watch you

01:06:53.880 you're this bubbly energetic extremely happy charismatic person yeah and to know that you

01:07:00.380 are still indeed a human being who who goes through things and um struggles it's it's it's

01:07:08.320 refreshing and i want to say i appreciate you for opening up in that way thank you i think i think

01:07:12.800 it's important you mentioned uh not being the bullshit influencer who only shows the highlight

01:07:16.900 reel yeah and i told this to alex warren on the last episode i said brother you're only showing 0.84

01:07:20.840 your highlight reel and he's like a he's a full 360 degree human yeah and i think the more

01:07:26.780 influencers that can really be truly authentic and show who they really are to their audience

01:07:31.760 are going to be the ones with their longevity oh yeah i know i'm not the coolest dude in the

01:07:34.860 world i know i'm not trying to portray that or anything i'm just like man i this is a dream come

01:07:38.380 true if you told 14 year old jack or 10 year old jack this would be my job right now that i'd be

01:07:43.080 doing this and have opportunities like this and you know i've met so many incredible people i

01:07:47.740 would have slapped you in the face so it's it's it's it's been unbelievable and you know just

01:07:53.460 got to keep on going with it there's no end in sight not stopping i have a question for young

01:07:56.720 gamers yeah young gamers anyone who's trying to make it in the gaming industry i'm asking this on

01:08:00.760 behalf of you all right so artists creators influencers celebrities entertainers whatever

01:08:05.880 the hardest thing in the world is that barrier to entry yeah that discoverability yep when you

01:08:11.960 have that moment where okay now this is a career i have my first kickstart i'm gonna i'm gonna take

01:08:17.400 this from here to the stars for me um it was still extremely difficult but i will say it was easier

01:08:25.180 than being a gamer because all i have to do all i have to do is make a viral video comedy sketch

01:08:31.400 viral vlog shareability is is built into the type of content i'm creating get it the type of content

01:08:37.660 i'm creating is more conducive to shareability yep than that of gaming yeah so how does a young

01:08:42.900 gamer who's just as charismatic as you maybe even better at you than a game maybe not who has two

01:08:48.200 live two viewers yeah how do they get discovered well you know i'll preface this by saying this

01:08:53.080 and and i think first i want to turn it back to how kind of if someone will look at you and they're

01:08:57.380 like i want to be a youtuber one day how did you get started on youtube logan well i subbed to you

01:09:01.800 and like your i told you this before and like literally your first thousand people on youtube

01:09:04.720 when you were switching from you were trying to move off platforms from vine and grow as anyone

01:09:09.040 should and you've seen the people that have done that and and i thought it was going to be

01:09:12.580 fascinating to see how the different viners do this so i followed you on youtube right away you

01:09:16.600 were at the um burning man it was your burning man vlog and uh and and i remember seeing like

01:09:22.540 wow here he goes so if someone were to ask you and go hey man i have zero sub or five five subs

01:09:27.960 on youtube yeah i would what you kind of instantly have to say is hey i leveraged a previous audience

01:09:33.100 i had to give me that first little kickstart to then at least get me somewhere because starting

01:09:38.900 from zero and starting from 10 is infinitely different in an experience right because 10 you

01:09:46.080 have 10 people who will who can vouch for you can get eyes on it to at least give you some sort of

01:09:51.520 feedback some traction to get you going when you start at zero zero people watching your stream

01:09:55.280 zero people watch your videos it's a completely different experience so the first thing that i

01:09:59.140 can say i know i kind of say this long-winded i talk a lot sometimes shut up whenever mike and i

01:10:03.220 probably are pretty similar than that but uh but is that i didn't start my streaming career at zero

01:10:09.920 i tried once at zero and got to like four viewers after two months and then quit to go back to school

01:10:16.220 and focus on my fraternity and stuff like that um that when i became a commentator and i had that

01:10:21.400 first opportunity to get on get in front of a screen and did those 40 shows in a row i then

01:10:25.800 got asked to commentate call of duty i built a bit of a twitter following from that of like 10

01:10:30.400 to 15,000 people so that I then decided, hey, my first job in Burbank, California in 2016

01:10:35.720 was like $45,000 a year, and I'm in a rent of this place that's like $1,700 a month or

01:10:41.720 something, and I'm like, I'm barely making enough to get by and live life, and I'm like,

01:10:46.060 I need some supplemental income, so let me start streaming.

01:10:48.620 So my first stream at 50 viewers, that's in the top, top percent.

01:10:53.020 I was going to say that's great.

01:10:54.760 That's phenomenal.

01:10:56.180 But that's because I leverage a previous audience, so when people ask me, I get donations all

01:10:59.820 the time or people will come to my stream and try to get my attention big what do you recommend for

01:11:04.860 someone that's starting at nothing and i and it's tough to say because i give my blanket answer which

01:11:09.840 is you have to be creative you have to be unique you have to give people a reason to watch why

01:11:14.460 should someone watch you one day and then tune in the next day you have to collaborate with others

01:11:17.780 you and i feel like a lot of people are kind of shy away from collaborating a show like impulsive

01:11:23.200 right is a very collaborative effort people will absolutely watch you three on the show but then

01:11:28.460 you'll have entirely new audiences tune in for your 6ix9ine episode or hopefully for this episode

01:11:33.280 please like and watch if you guys enjoyed it um so so there's the collaboration that comes with

01:11:39.220 too but then the the blunt answer is that you gotta get lucky there there is a luck involved

01:11:44.860 in this there is absolutely a luck where you mentioned that shareability not every video

01:11:49.380 was a banger but there's that one video that resonates with your audience on facebook because

01:11:54.620 As it gets to the Karens and the moms that share it all.

01:11:58.140 And then next thing you know, that leverage of that Facebook audience then gives you that little bit of extra kick on your YouTube, which is really where you want to grow the platform.

01:12:05.880 Or I tell people right now, TikTok is the number one place for me.

01:12:08.740 If you're trying to start from zero, you start with TikTok and then funnel it towards something like Twitch.

01:12:13.520 Can I piggyback off your answer?

01:12:15.260 Sure.

01:12:15.360 Because I agree with you.

01:12:16.440 There's a level of luck that all of our influencer friends have had.

01:12:20.700 Yeah.

01:12:20.800 let me give your young viewers your young creators gamers streamers some tactical advice that may

01:12:27.760 increase your chances of getting lucky here we go look at this this is breaking news here's what i

01:12:32.240 did people out there here's what i did this actually didn't work because i did have my

01:12:37.060 lucky moment yeah but if i didn't do these things maybe i wouldn't have had that lucky moment exactly

01:12:41.020 all right so get creative in how you're showing people your stuff bro when i was making youtube

01:12:49.000 videos i would post every single one of them little snippets clips whatever on ifunny from

01:12:55.560 10 different accounts and upvote them from the same accounts and try to get them involved in

01:12:59.780 the algorithm yeah now go on reddit like you said go on tiktok the platform of discoverability the

01:13:05.980 platform of viral content anything and again i'm not in this phase now but email your top creator

01:13:11.900 say yo my name's jack courage dunlop attach a picture of yourself say what your resume is in

01:13:18.640 a short succinct thing and a highlight reel of the things you do maybe it'll catch if you email

01:13:24.100 a hundred creators groups anything they're like someone's attention you have to get your stuff

01:13:29.640 out there that's all it is the discoverability and that chance of getting lucky will increase

01:13:34.060 the more you're really putting yourself out there and they never catch but if it might i mean it

01:13:38.760 did for me it did for you casey and i sat talked about it in his vlogs from years ago i forget

01:13:43.220 which episode it was but he literally said like listen your first 10 will be will be harder than

01:13:49.520 your first hundred your first hundred will be harder than your first thousand your first thousand

01:13:53.220 will be harder than your first ten thousand and it's the truth it's like once you get that momentum

01:13:58.580 but it's that first opportunity that is like it's so tough and when it happens like for example

01:14:04.300 among us right now with hip-hop and i'm looking at my girlfriend going hey babe i'm gonna be 0.94

01:14:09.620 grinding these next couple weeks while this shit's really hot i'm gonna be getting the hours 0.96

01:14:12.660 and I'm going to be collaborating 0.98

01:14:13.560 with all these people.

01:14:14.100 I'm going to be playing these groups.

01:14:15.580 You're going to see

01:14:15.960 a little bit less of me

01:14:16.620 because while the iron's hot, 0.99

01:14:18.680 you got to fucking strike. 1.00

01:14:19.460 Strike. 1.00

01:14:19.960 Strike.

01:14:20.240 You got a window of opportunity.

01:14:21.440 You got to go.

01:14:22.000 I won't always be like that.

01:14:23.440 Hi, boys.

01:14:24.560 That was strong.

01:14:25.660 Yeah?

01:14:25.900 That was strong.

01:14:26.640 I appreciate you coming on.

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01:15:01.880 There we go.

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01:15:02.660 Cool.

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Impaulsive with Logan Paul - October 01, 2020

E222 Jack 'CouRage' Dunlop Shoots His Shot - IMPAULSIVE EP. 222

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