Impaulsive with Logan Paul - November 12, 2020


E234 John Shahidi: Social Media Mastermind

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E233 One Year Since Losing To KSI E235 I Got Invited To A Hollywood Sex Party

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00:02:29.320 your shirt's reflecting too much mike there's a lot of jewels there's a lot of jewels on the
00:02:39.180 shirt dude you look like a beanie baby like a bedazzled beanie baby i don't know if you've
00:02:43.020 noticed and you going like this just signals that you are a beanie baby i'm a hype beast 0.79
00:02:46.920 i'm the next shroud has have you guys not seen my gaming are you too old to be a hype beast 0.55
00:02:51.240 are you too old to be a gamer i think i'm too old to be alive i don't think that matters welcome
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00:03:05.540 people who watch these podcasts are actually not subscribed is this dude still fucking talking 0.91
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00:03:24.680 coming up on three million what no what yeah sort of how early are you saying that so early what is
00:03:30.540 it how many i'm a capper how many do i like like 400 000 away i'm a cat but but but but as an
00:03:36.940 optimist and as someone who sees that bright future i it's right it's in within reach i never
00:03:42.120 thought it was possible bro come on three million subscribers on a on a podcast channel that's
00:03:46.760 really cool and we're gonna be doing a set renovation soon it's time we're gonna get we're
00:03:52.160 gonna change your profile picture we see the comments all right i'm gonna change your profile
00:03:56.200 picture we look like we're in the inside of a mcdonald's bouncy house this this or spongebob
00:04:01.300 yeah the studio needs a revamp it was cool at first there's a lot of dan hit the lights we have
00:04:05.880 a lot of like cool effects are we still gonna have cool things like that yeah but it's just
00:04:09.240 gonna be uh if you're in the maverick club you got a little sneak peek of what that looks like
00:04:12.600 i'm excited i'm excited i mean when you see true jordy's podcast it just makes you think like this
00:04:19.340 could be so much more earth toned yes wooden it's kind of what we're doing oh speaking of that
00:04:25.460 you know that i got some comments on the last episode nice keep leaving comments if there's
00:04:31.080 some good ones yeah we'll touch on them here we are got some best comments on the last episode
00:04:35.480 regarding remember my uh my hobby of woodworking that i thought about doing check it out yeah
00:04:41.380 ryan faulkner says log and paul woodworking channel coming soon that's great log and paul
00:04:48.940 i bet riley lopez says honestly would love to see a series called logan works on his wood
00:04:53.860 that that's on porn hub these are these are that would be on porn hub actually
00:04:58.140 would it be in the morning nice nice george thank you christoph marais says what about as a hobby
00:05:04.440 logan you start posting some blogs on red lights red lights yeah she ain't wrong we had this
00:05:10.460 conversation last night dude if you just you walked away without even talking about it mike
00:05:15.600 Mike said if you're incapable of creating one video a week, 1.00
00:05:18.820 you're a fucking loser. 1.00
00:05:20.560 You've been gifted, and he has a semi-valid excuse, 1.00
00:05:23.640 but you've been gifted.
00:05:24.460 He doesn't.
00:05:25.060 Jeff's shaking his head no.
00:05:26.260 You've been gifted this, but he didn't do anything.
00:05:28.020 I'm going to say gifted.
00:05:28.720 You've been gifted this platform of 20 million-plus subscribers.
00:05:31.300 It was just given to him. 0.98
00:05:32.380 He did absolutely fucking nothing to earn it. 0.99
00:05:34.960 Besides, yeah. 0.98
00:05:36.740 You can't create, you can't give the people a four- to six-minute piece of content
00:05:41.460 and update on your daily. 0.99
00:05:42.280 man you sit your fat ass down and you point a camera at yourself and you talk to the camera 1.00
00:05:47.440 i won't put out shit content i won't so we talked about this because because i now i've almost a 1.00
00:05:52.560 month deep without putting a piece out too because i've been you know in my head dealing some other 0.98
00:05:57.220 stuff or whatever you won't put out content unless it's fucking grade a quality content grade a 0.93
00:06:01.420 quality content four minutes of grade a quality content that you see on youtube could take three 0.97
00:06:06.000 hours of of planning shooting oh what three hours three days i said three days no you didn't
00:06:12.180 I said three days
00:06:14.280 you can rewind and watch
00:06:15.340 you did the same thing on the Sud Guru podcast
00:06:17.740 you gotta stop putting words in Mike's mouth
00:06:19.960 he's so confused
00:06:21.440 we came to the conclusion that the impulsive audience
00:06:24.160 has no idea we're sarcastic
00:06:26.080 so sarcastic
00:06:27.000 I just feel like and I told you guys about this
00:06:30.220 when the cameras were off
00:06:32.040 you guys are very mean to me
00:06:33.040 don't do this
00:06:34.980 I don't even want to talk
00:06:37.700 I don't want to open up on this podcast anymore
00:06:39.760 I'm nervous
00:06:40.740 Stop, Georgie. Guys, let's bring out our guests. Let's bring out someone with an actual brand. He is the co-founder and CEO of Shot Studios. He was instrumental in the blossoming stages of Bieber's career. Justin Bieber, that is. He manages the career of Lele Ponce, Hannah Stocking, Anwar Jabari, and of course, his newest client, Jake Paul, my brother. He's a multimedia genius who's normally behind the scenes here today to share his secrets. Please welcome John Shahidi.
00:07:04.960 at johnny john john john john john john john john here we go here we go john let me let me no no
00:07:17.520 you let me okay i was gonna leave it with any questions okay so i'm gonna stop i'm gonna lead
00:07:24.200 in with the statement the wardrobe today i gotta ask uh what's good what's good with the wardrobe
00:07:31.560 I just wanted to look proper.
00:07:33.300 You look like Fred from Scooby-Doo.
00:07:36.020 Wow. 1.00
00:07:36.580 Holy shit. 1.00
00:07:38.200 I was supposed to be that for Halloween. 0.99
00:07:39.540 It's the first thing.
00:07:40.380 Me too.
00:07:41.020 I was going to be Fred.
00:07:42.280 Instead I was a Reese's Buttercup.
00:07:43.520 You do look good.
00:07:44.400 You look proper.
00:07:44.980 I've just never seen the collar peeking from the shirt.
00:07:50.280 This is a business podcast.
00:07:52.600 I listen to Impulsive to Learn, so I came here to teach a little bit too.
00:07:56.560 We would love to learn things from you, Johnny.
00:07:58.620 You've been doing this for so long.
00:08:00.320 i've known you for seven years plus for too long at first you wouldn't even give me the time of day
00:08:06.200 and now we're best friends no i you pitched me on uh airplane mode seven years ago did you say
00:08:11.840 how do you feel good about you feel good about that pass now or what do you wish you got involved
00:08:15.980 in that that stunning project the idea was good everyone starts that was his first movie
00:08:20.100 you know i mean and you learn next movie's gonna be better do you have to do you have to make
00:08:24.680 shitty things in order to make good things eventually i don't know if airplane mode was
00:08:28.980 shitty what are you talking about it was an experiment it wasn't a two and a half million
00:08:33.560 dollars experiment you know i like that was i mean that was your inexperience you know what 0.60
00:08:38.280 they say uh you know um inexperience turns into bad decisions and bad decisions turn into experience
00:08:44.820 is that what they say inexperience turns into bad decisions and bad decisions turn into experience
00:08:50.140 okay so that's what i'm saying because i've i've been watching a lot of uh a lot of programming
00:08:55.320 recently and a lot of these things are so good and i feel like the creators the directors the
00:09:00.940 writers are have just a a track record of unparalleled success and for me it's not like
00:09:07.540 that like i've fucked up a lot and that's how i learned that's how i like got good or at least
00:09:12.020 semi-good to a place where i'm comfortable with putting out stuff that i believe in but have you 0.85
00:09:17.120 had a an immense amount of setbacks that equate to your success oh yeah yeah i mean i don't even
00:09:24.800 know where to start you know like there's i mean we met because you know uh i had an app that had
00:09:31.100 over eight and a half million users you know and raised like 15 million dollars and shots yeah the
00:09:36.040 shots app right and like you know you know where is that now so you know i mean like but you still
00:09:40.120 learn you know i mean it's not going to stop me from making my next app idea you know i think we
00:09:44.820 learn um whether it's like what content we're creating what apps we're making whatever it is
00:09:50.840 even merch you know like you know you get better and better and better with merch um different
00:09:56.220 businesses you know i'm sure version one of maverick club is gonna be a lot different in
00:10:01.040 version 10 of maverick club yeah tell me i'm pushing my clothes can you also can you also
00:10:05.240 put that on just for a hot second can you pull fred up again please or just just hold it maybe
00:10:09.660 under the uh the collared shirt i just want to the color slightly i do see what's going on here
00:10:15.500 that's maybe just move your hand a little bit yeah welcome to impulsive johnny i hate to say
00:10:22.860 this and i think this goes well with the tie um the last time you were actually on impulsive once
00:10:28.400 before for what a half an hour maybe was it the hannah stocking he came in at the end
00:10:34.160 you had before you came on the show that day you had uh you didn't know you were going to
00:10:40.660 be coming on the show and you had indulged slightly in a little bit of psilocybin mushrooms
00:10:44.620 and i want to talk about this i just think i and i and i wanted to break the ice with this but
00:10:51.720 you know i feel like talking about failure first and then we get into that supreme success yeah
00:10:55.980 sure what do you what do you what's what's good with the silly silly like like and also what do 0.61
00:11:01.060 you what do you think about the the path that certain places in america are taking right now 0.80
00:11:05.640 towards the legalization of psilocybin oh um i think i think it's great i think it's going to be
00:11:11.400 I personally see it as an like an antidepressant. I think especially more than ever right now with creative people feeling entrapped because of quarantine and COVID and staying inside. And I think you're going to see a lot more creative people kind of feeling trapped and feeling, you know, which feeling trapped ultimately leads to anxiety buildup and depression.
00:11:35.140 And I feel, you know, some of these psychedelic drugs, you know, actually give you kind of like an escape, you know, kind of give you some of the answers that you didn't have before and they connect you with your subconscious mind.
00:11:48.660 So I think, you know, I mean, of course, there's going to be some people who abuse it, just like some people abuse alcohol, some people abuse sugar.
00:11:55.120 Marijuana, everything.
00:11:55.560 Marijuana, you know, but, but, but I think for, um, for the masses, I think it's going to really
00:12:01.160 help, um, you know, connect yourself, connect, connect with yourself more and find some of those
00:12:05.780 answers that you don't know. It's definitely a, a fast track way to completely switch your
00:12:11.080 perspective on life like that. This isn't a PSA to, to try psychedelics, but what about the Hannah
00:12:16.980 stocking? Was it that bad that you felt like you needed drugs? No, no, no, no, no. Why did you do
00:12:21.100 drugs no no no i was just here and um i wasn't i honestly i didn't even you know like i just
00:12:26.580 wanted to come by and see you guys but you wanted to see us intoxicated no stop well you weren't
00:12:31.260 here johnny comes on the podcast i knew something was wrong right off the bat he comes down and
00:12:36.860 sits down like this he's like i i owe you a preface here i'm not offering any context so so 0.96
00:12:45.500 he's not doing this shit to get fucked up nothing was wrong you're he's very much joining a high 0.98
00:12:52.620 level group of business executives and and thinkers in this country right now who are utilizing 0.99
00:12:57.960 psilocybin micro doses to enhance their collaborative and creative spirit this is
00:13:03.080 half a decade to a decade behind silicon valley who has been using psilocybin and micro dose levels
00:13:09.240 for the past five to 10 years to continue to to garner collaborative spirit on teams ceos are
00:13:16.580 doing it to open their minds to new creative approaches to both business and technology
00:13:20.440 it seems and la has as well but what i guess the question for me is what core benefits are you
00:13:28.760 finding in your life and i know you just said you know uh the relief of anxiety and depression but
00:13:33.660 what do you what are you finding it does for your approach to business and and creative um you know
00:13:38.360 I'm always a thinker and I'm always thinking of ideas. And usually, you know, I think of an idea
00:13:43.340 and then I move on to what's on my plate. So that idea still stays in the back of my head and my
00:13:48.380 subconscious mind. And eventually like it just builds up and builds up, you know, sometimes I'll
00:13:52.720 sit, you know, write down the idea real quick and like my notes app, but you know, it just sits
00:13:57.400 there. And then when it's time to execute, it just kind of connects me back with my subconscious
00:14:02.060 mind of what needs to do. And then now how does that one idea connect with the big picture of what
00:14:06.560 we're building or with the you know how does it become one big experience how do we take this to
00:14:11.660 another level and it just really it just really helps me release especially i work from home i'm
00:14:16.380 you know i'm my office is not in my home so i'm home almost always you know uh you know sometimes
00:14:21.980 like you know i'll go out for a dinner but that's about it you know so i'm home and i don't have
00:14:26.860 that um you know before before pre-covid you know we had an office and we had a team of people that
00:14:32.920 sit in a room and our ideas would bounce off one another because you know that's how we used to be
00:14:37.900 in the you know in a room of like six to eight people coming up with ideas and that doesn't
00:14:42.240 exist anymore and i don't know when that's coming back so so you know now i'm feeling you know a
00:14:47.420 little bit separated from that and now i'm just you know just working on different things but you
00:14:51.620 know i'm not doing it every day you know you're not doing it in high doses like you're not doing
00:14:55.640 it because the lack of people in your house you're using it to create imaginary people i mean i think
00:15:00.840 the last time i was here is the last time i may have even done it you know like it's not something
00:15:04.260 i'm doing every day now there are people doing doing it you know and let's talk about the dose
00:15:09.020 for a hot second too what do you what are we talking about half a gram approximately a gram
00:15:15.000 like what no no mine's like a nibble mine's like a tiny yeah you're really like a tenth a tenth of
00:15:20.420 a gram yeah i don't know i don't even know the numbers does your stimulation with psychedelics
00:15:24.040 end there would you take it further lsd i don't think so no have you tried have you tried it
00:15:30.660 i have stuff yeah i'm sure yeah when i was younger yeah but um i don't think so i just watched a uh
00:15:36.120 documentary orange sunshine sunshine yeah tim leary documentary about the uh the brotherhood
00:15:40.040 of eternal love your ranch who used to own my ranch that's why i watch it and uh it's crazy uh
00:15:46.880 lsd i feel like has a prolonged a very prolonged effect the side effects of altering your mind in 0.77
00:15:56.880 that way for as long as these uh these hippies did was evident you you afraid of the side effects
00:16:04.500 or any of the long-term effects of uh i mean i'll be honest i did lsd i think when i was 15 0.81
00:16:09.060 years old which is over 20 yeah i get flashbacks sometimes bullshit yeah i get flashbacks in my 0.98
00:16:13.660 sleep they say if you crack your spine you can release a hint of the ass i get it in my sleep 0.99
00:16:19.720 i don't know maybe the way i'm sleeping the angle but sometimes in my sleep like i'll just get just 0.98
00:16:24.300 from one one experience no no no there's a few yeah but i was young so i don't know 15 yeah i
00:16:29.300 was 15 yeah uh freshman year that's young did you do it more than seven times probably around that
00:16:35.080 there's that old there's that old why i don't even know if it's actually a clinical diagnosis
00:16:39.900 but there's that old is it really if you've used acid more than seven times you're clinically
00:16:46.520 insane is that what it is there's a lot of insane people in this room right now and in this city
00:16:51.360 I might be at exactly seven.
00:16:52.600 Yeah, you try to keep it right under that level.
00:16:55.400 Yeah, but it's weird, though.
00:16:56.600 The conversation about psychedelics has very much entered the mainstream.
00:16:59.920 And I think, you know, you have people like Joe Rogan and other people that are on his show talking about it all the time.
00:17:05.760 And it'll be interesting to see where it goes over the next decade because now you've got places like Denver and Oregon who have decriminalized and I think are even moving towards reclegalization on psilocybin.
00:17:18.820 So you can go to a store and buy it, which is wild.
00:17:21.180 and it starts there usually it usually starts oregon colorado washington state yeah they kind 0.92
00:17:26.000 of start some of the weird shit absolutely yeah you're an ideas man you talk about these ideas 0.80
00:17:31.080 that you come up with yes uh in these meetings i heard uh alexis ohanian say this you know alexis 0.75
00:17:37.240 ohanian co-founder co-founder read it uh when i was in ou in college i went to a little seminar
00:17:43.760 he had a little speaking seminar and he said something that like made me think he said ideas
00:17:48.320 are worthless or something along those lines ideas are useless because an idea is just an idea right
00:17:54.460 unless you execute on it technically i hear what he's saying do you believe that yeah you think
00:18:00.400 ideas are ideas are nothing but fugazi anyone could have ideas anybody you know i mean you could
00:18:05.160 anyone go you know we could come up you know you the four of us could go to dinner tonight and talk
00:18:11.040 five hours of ideas and bounce off one another but if you don't actually go and get it done okay
00:18:16.900 it means nothing okay but but but to grow a tree you got to start with the seed
00:18:22.800 the seed isn't useless the seed isn't useless can i say you could you could imagine a tree all day
00:18:31.440 but that imagining the trees is nothing i think the first step is that mustard seed
00:18:35.480 that's the first step do you get what i'm saying we could i can imagine a forest okay but okay
00:18:40.560 you're saying the idea isn't equivalent to a seed nothing because you dream all the time you don't
00:18:44.460 even remember your dreams or even have a pocket full of seeds you know i mean you got to put that
00:18:48.220 seed into the ground and start watering it you know i mean like or else if you have a pocket
00:18:51.820 full of seeds right now what's going to happen what if you really feed a lot of birds right now
00:18:56.580 here's where here's where i think that statement is is flawed i think it i think it removes the
00:19:01.480 importance of uh idea sharing in a group setting and so for someone like the founder of reddit
00:19:08.820 he may be talking about the value of ideas to oneself an idea to oneself not shared with a
00:19:14.020 greater unit needs to be executed upon or it's worthless when you get into a group setting ideas
00:19:18.820 are very valuable because when you deliver a just a concept just the slimmest idea glimmer of hope
00:19:24.780 of what something in your mind can be he picks up and says but what about this then the guy picks up
00:19:30.600 on what he says and says what about this and that collaborative snowball effect has burned so many 0.63
00:19:36.100 fucking executed ideas so i think that that that uh statement about ideas being worthless is when 0.85
00:19:44.300 they exist an idea stuck here is worthless when spoken into a group of people that idea could 0.98
00:19:50.120 become the next 100 billion you know what i'm saying billion dollar company so i agree yeah
00:19:54.280 seven years later i still can't quite get behind it i think ideas are so powerful i think the right
00:19:58.940 idea can seep into a person's mind the right person like a venom like a like a toxin almost
00:20:04.200 and just take over and and uh stimulate god knows what and at one point i know you had an idea to
00:20:12.380 start shots i want to revisit this conversation uh shots started off as an app you were kind of
00:20:18.080 in the social media space i saw you coming around 1600 all the time hanging out with anwar rudy
00:20:23.520 you'd bring bieber over from time to time i remember i came uh i live two doors down from
00:20:27.840 two doors down i remember i i was there once bieber was there um kendall jenner walked in at
00:20:33.240 one point i was like what the fuck am i bro i'm a kid from ohio how did this happen i'm in a room 0.97
00:20:37.060 with these people and then fuck there's a lot to unpack here johnny let's go it's a good story i 0.99
00:20:43.820 know i know i know i know i know he just looked into his duffel bag i want to know where to go 0.99
00:20:48.220 from here because i do want to talk about shots but how did you even get in a position to be so
00:20:53.380 tight and connected with those people you're a cool guy you could uh keep the relationship going
00:20:59.420 because of just your charisma and who you are but how did you get there um with which person
00:21:05.920 specifically let's start with beaver because he was the inception right behind the okay so um his
00:21:10.780 story was great um you know so the first person that i've ever worked with um officially was
00:21:18.860 floyd mayweather which i still do um since it's been 10 years now may of 2010 um and floyd so
00:21:26.960 Floyd and I bought you know always you know everything we've done everything together and
00:21:30.300 then um he had this jeweler Ben Baller that I think a lot of people know and uh Ben and Floyd
00:21:37.720 were hanging out and we were actually filming content around Floyd and Ben was with them and
00:21:42.540 I got to know Ben kind of like um you know you know Ben's um you know we just I just established
00:21:47.460 a relationship with Ben and then a few weeks or a few months later um Ben said hey I'm with
00:21:54.480 justin bieber and i'm telling him all about what you do and at the time we were actually
00:21:58.020 iphone game developers we had about six different iphone games before shots at before the shot
00:22:02.800 studios yeah and i mean he's a fan of your games he actually plays your games and uh can i introduce
00:22:07.900 you to him and uh justin i think just turned 18 and i said sure and he connected me with justin
00:22:16.080 and then you know i lived in orange county at the time justin was living in um in la and you know
00:22:21.880 we're just like hey like he's like i'd love to meet and talk about all the stuff that you're
00:22:25.300 creating and that's how we started and then but how did you develop a working relationship like
00:22:30.740 what what was he lacking that or what did he not have that you felt like you could contribute i
00:22:35.440 think my relationship with him is no different than the relationship with you guys it's like
00:22:38.640 you know i think we're we just like vibes you know homies but then like you know like like mike
00:22:44.320 and i talk weekly about ideas you know i mean i think it's just like we felt like we were just
00:22:48.860 like creatively in line just like we all are you know i mean i'm thinking all my conversations with
00:22:54.080 you guys have always been creative ideas i got this idea you know um and i think it was that
00:22:58.520 like i think like we were like on the same creative wavelength i think you also have a
00:23:03.480 really good grip on the idea of building relationships not based off of a present day
00:23:11.220 need but off of the idea that something may come down the line so you meet up with bieber you spend
00:23:17.080 time with them you spend time with ben baller you spend time with floyd you spend time with
00:23:20.200 the jenners whoever right not because there's something that needs to be done today but six
00:23:25.440 months from now you may get a phone call saying i have 125 million dollar budget for a pop singer
00:23:33.960 a teenage pop singer you say well i created a relationship six months ago that is gonna make
00:23:38.840 us all a lot of money right now i think you're really good at creating uh connections that will
00:23:43.940 yield future results. Do you, do you think that's true? Yeah. When I was younger, someone that was
00:23:49.460 really close with me told me life is not short. Life is long. You know, I was in my 20, I'm 40
00:23:56.600 years old now and I was in my twenties and he told me life is not short. Life is long. You know,
00:24:01.280 some of the relationships you have now, you might not need now, but you might need in 15 years from
00:24:05.020 now. It's happening now. Somebody that I used to work with in my, when I was 18, I worked with him
00:24:09.540 from 18 to 30 hadn't talked to him when i turned 30 uh we went different ways career wise and then
00:24:16.720 now something that we're building i was like wait i need this guy you know i kind of stayed in touch
00:24:22.040 but like i had you know career wise professionally i haven't had a relationship in 10 years and now
00:24:27.800 he's like running this side of the business it's um you know but that goes back to life is not short
00:24:32.440 everything's not gonna end tomorrow you know you know if there's an opportunity you don't have to
00:24:36.180 do this now you know like life is long you know like we're gonna i mean you said seven years we've
00:24:41.020 known each other yeah you know like that's crazy seven years just started working with jake you
00:24:45.600 know six yeah yeah it's yeah it's crazy how those relationships and and the reason why reinvigorate
00:24:51.400 reinvigorate and if you ask jake why john and he's not going to say oh because he knows boxing he
00:24:56.500 knows social media so i've known him for a long time and i trust him you know that's his number
00:25:00.880 one reason why you know what i've heard him tell people yep yep absolutely it's interesting too
00:25:05.400 because not only is life long, but it's unpredictable.
00:25:07.960 And it's another thing you probably do a great job at
00:25:11.620 is treating everyone with respect
00:25:14.080 because you never know when your cameraman from five years ago
00:25:18.840 is going to be the CEO of Amazon.
00:25:21.420 You know what I'm saying?
00:25:22.300 I call that the Escobar mentality.
00:25:25.300 You know, Escobar took care of everyone in the streets.
00:25:28.220 He didn't care about the politicians and all that.
00:25:30.940 You know what I mean?
00:25:31.180 The politicians had to give in to Escobar
00:25:32.900 because he was so powerful with the people
00:25:34.860 that he took care of in the streets you know like not to like you know you know go you know
00:25:39.640 yeah yeah yeah i don't mean to like model my life after a you know drug lord but you know
00:25:45.780 but just something like i that's one thing when i watch or read about him i'm like you know and
00:25:49.880 obviously his motives were different but like i appreciated that people in the streets you know
00:25:55.160 like he took care of them you know i mean for different motives but the fact that they got
00:25:59.960 something whether his motives were whatever they were you know i mean like i always appreciated
00:26:03.920 that it's just a very teachable notion i think there's a lot of people out there who see uh this
00:26:08.720 idea of celebrities coming up and then being very off-putting to the to the work or to to this to
00:26:15.980 that and it's something i it's something he's never been like that but it's something i've
00:26:19.800 always tried to instill in him is take very good care of your people because not only are they
00:26:24.680 valuable now but you really have no idea where they might be in the next 10 to 15 years you know
00:26:30.320 and how drastically different the relationship may look
00:26:34.820 two decades from now.
00:26:36.160 Like, it's just such an interesting dynamic.
00:26:37.240 Yeah, you were the Lovesack guy.
00:26:38.420 Yeah, I mean, now you're co-host
00:26:40.380 of the number one podcast in the world.
00:26:42.020 His number is still Mike from Lovesack on my phone.
00:26:45.360 Dude, you never check.
00:26:46.140 No, I love that.
00:26:46.700 Most people in LA.
00:26:47.060 I love that.
00:26:47.520 It keeps me grounded.
00:26:48.080 Most people in LA.
00:26:48.500 It keeps me grounded.
00:26:49.100 Mike Lovesack.
00:26:49.880 Mike Lovesack.
00:26:50.480 Yep, yep, yep.
00:26:52.000 I still have that connection, by the way.
00:26:53.860 I still talk to them all the time.
00:26:54.900 I check in with the brand team.
00:26:56.060 I check in with Sean all the time.
00:26:57.520 Like, it's just another example.
00:26:58.640 You never know.
00:26:59.080 got to keep you got to first of all remember where you came from remember the people that help you
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00:28:15.620 back to the program believe it or not so look you foster these relationships
00:28:18.960 and i remember you were like the guy you were the you were the hub of all these
00:28:23.940 up-and-coming social media stars the bieber crew you were the first guy i saw weaving uh traditional
00:28:31.220 and digital media okay and then you started this app called shots right was it built to compete
00:28:39.060 with instagram because the premise of shots correct me if i'm wrong was to post pictures
00:28:43.340 and not show likes it was the it was the very first platform that didn't validate your content
00:28:49.920 yeah with data correct so what was what was the premise why did you start that i don't know if
00:28:56.560 it was to compete against instagram i think it was for the people who didn't want to deal with
00:29:01.060 that right because this was before snapchat had stories which is before instagram had stories
00:29:05.580 obviously um and that's what we were i mean the shots app was pretty much instagram stories you
00:29:10.120 know they were you know um or snapchat stories there was no you know you know if you post a
00:29:14.860 story i don't know how many people viewed it i don't know how many people liked it you know if
00:29:17.880 i go to your instagram profile i could see how many people follow you you know so i could kind
00:29:20.880 of maybe do the math but we took that part out that was like hey just share your day don't worry
00:29:25.360 about it um you had the option to keep it after 24 hours it would disappear after 24 hours you
00:29:31.560 know it was that it was that it was you know pretty much snapchat stories before and it was
00:29:35.840 kind of for that person who maybe needed peace of mind which i don't think back then people
00:29:40.020 need a peace of mind yet from social media i think now we're starting to see it and i think
00:29:43.840 that's why you're seeing people use stories more than timeline or you know uh on instagram i
00:29:49.020 restrict my comments that only people i follow could comment because i don't really you know
00:29:53.760 like need other people's opinions you know at times um you know so i think you know or some
00:29:59.680 people hide their comments um you know instagram's obviously now experimenting removing likes on some
00:30:05.560 accounts i don't know if they're going to move forward with that or not but i know some people
00:30:08.780 who can't see how many likes they get so we just wanted to do that more for the person who wanted
00:30:13.700 peace of mind from social media but i think we're just a little too early for the time because i
00:30:17.380 don't think the world mentally needed that at that time yeah so i don't i don't want to sound like a
00:30:23.060 dick here but it didn't the concept didn't work is it okay to say that yeah of course it didn't
00:30:27.580 okay so why i think i think it was just too early for its time i think uh when snapchat put in
00:30:34.620 You know, at that time, Snapchat was just a texting app that you would send a message and disappear.
00:30:39.160 And then when Snapchat put in stories, they were so much bigger than us that everyone gravitated towards Snapchat and started using Snapchat because they knew they had more than an audience there.
00:30:48.560 You know, I think at the time we had, I think, 8 million users and Snapchat had 100 million plus users.
00:30:54.820 So I think we kind of got, you know, I think we were just, you know, when Snapchat put that feature in, it kind of took us out.
00:31:03.320 it had to be frustrating it was frustrating um you know it was frustrating but at the time
00:31:11.940 you know I was having so much fun like working with people like Lele and Rudy and Anwar and I
00:31:18.080 saw like you know those times we used to have a lot of conversations with a really deep partnership
00:31:23.340 with Twitter like if you look up Twitter shots app there's some like news that came out about it
00:31:27.920 and uh and what happened during those times which I you know I don't I've never talked about publicly
00:31:32.820 but i will now is like when we had those meetings with twitter i i sent i noticed that twitter did
00:31:38.740 not care about vine and was so focused on twitter every meeting i would have with twitter and i
00:31:44.780 would bring up vine i would bring up you i would bring up keen batch i would bring up and they had
00:31:47.980 purchased vine yeah vine was massive i'm talking about when vine was at its peak when you had but
00:31:52.460 twitter had already purchased it at this point yeah twitter purchased vine before vine launched
00:31:56.160 twitter owned vine from day one oh oh yeah yeah yeah they bought they bought vine pre-launch i
00:32:00.960 did not know that okay yeah okay and you're saying they they it was the ugly stepchild
00:32:04.740 yeah they just didn't care you know and we pit we were just having meetings after meetings and
00:32:09.720 then that's when i remember telling sam i was like i don't think they're gonna care they don't
00:32:13.380 care about vine i think vine's gonna go downhill i think it's time to move our following from vine
00:32:19.500 to you know work with lele and rudy and at the time we're working with batch um and move our
00:32:25.860 following from vine to these other platforms because this is about to be a sinking ship
00:32:30.040 and so we were so focused there the app wasn't working we just we already had thrown in the
00:32:35.700 towel and then we built shot studios um so at the time it hurt that the app didn't work and
00:32:41.580 you know we had to explain to investors that hey you know i know you thought we're going to be the
00:32:44.980 next instagram but we're actually going to be a talent studio and managing influencers taking
00:32:49.600 conversation like it was it was you know what um the ones who mattered understood yeah you know
00:32:57.440 i mean there were a lot of people like what no what do you mean influencer what do you mean you're
00:33:01.500 gonna work with viners you're supposed to be the you know a 10 billion dollar company like i was
00:33:05.520 like hey i'm not going to be that you know i could either keep trying and we could go to zero or i 0.96
00:33:10.120 could also you know do this at least you're not quibi dude that's what i mean you know i mean so
00:33:15.360 So at least we had this other plan that, you know, this was 2015, five years later, it's
00:33:20.700 worked and it's been successful.
00:33:22.260 But I'll be honest, you know, we also had an app called Mindy, M-I-N-D-I-E.
00:33:27.920 And if you look it up, Mindy video app, it was TikTok.
00:33:31.660 It was literally musically cloned Mindy app and Mindy musically became TikTok.
00:33:37.480 But we had the original TikTok.
00:33:40.160 um and you know sometimes you know the few people who know it's like hey you messed up not doing
00:33:46.900 this i was like yeah i know but also like you know sometimes i see like mark zuckerberg and
00:33:52.300 jack dorsey like anytime i see them they're like explaining themselves to congress and what they're
00:33:56.780 doing i mean like every time i turn on c-span like that's where they are but i'm hanging out
00:34:01.160 with my beautiful fiancee i was like i'd rather be here i feel like they're always explaining
00:34:06.260 themselves the congresswoman always the congress congresswoman he always says that yeah like do
00:34:11.380 they get to enjoy you know i mean like no are they enjoying no well they're mark zuckerberg's
00:34:16.920 an alien i think it was that was proven right that was a proven fact yeah it was either that
00:34:21.340 or a lizard person i know a reptilian overlord yeah either way the trillion dollar uh bank
00:34:27.500 account comes with a price tag that a lot of people don't know yeah and i would never even
00:34:31.520 if i had 20 billion dollars in the bank i would not want to like i hold up every day and go to
00:34:36.240 washington dc and go explain what i'm doing to protect date yeah i mean like hold up you had a
00:34:41.800 price tag at one point is it true that twitter was going to buy shots for 150 million um you know
00:34:48.660 the you look that up giant come on it's the number one podcast in the world we have someone not me
00:34:53.700 who does research and then gives it to me on a piece there was a lot of conversations with us
00:34:57.380 us on twitter but that's when you know it was supposed to be you know it never really got to
00:35:01.900 that price point i think what the media like put out there i don't know how they even came up with
00:35:05.620 that number but there was conversations of a partnership with us but it was supposed to be
00:35:09.460 vine included and everything like there was supposed to be a huge partnership between us
00:35:14.860 and twitter and vine and that's what i'm talking about those were the stories that i was going to
00:35:18.520 twitter all the time and you know uh you know presenting to everybody and all that stuff and
00:35:23.200 like how this you know we could create one huge video platform johnny johnny is it true that the
00:35:28.700 CFO of Twitter, meant to send a private DM about the acquisition of shots and accidentally
00:35:36.220 tweeted it.
00:35:37.700 He tweeted something by accident.
00:35:39.620 Was this it?
00:35:41.040 He said, I still think we should buy them.
00:35:42.980 He is on your schedule for December 15th or 16th.
00:35:45.120 We need to sell him.
00:35:46.080 I have a plan.
00:35:48.280 He went like this.
00:35:49.340 He accidentally tweeted it.
00:35:51.120 He tweeted that, but he never said shots.
00:35:52.460 So I can't confirm he was talking about us.
00:35:54.120 Maybe they were talking to other people.
00:35:56.080 I was scheduled to be at Twitter that week.
00:35:57.740 but these guys have multiple meetings a day yeah i mean and they ended up buying some other
00:36:02.340 companies at the time too okay okay okay so you moved into talent you moved out of platform and
00:36:06.640 into talent yeah and then five years and did a fantastic job with that built some of the biggest
00:36:10.880 social media careers brought in a shit ton of money through sponsorships clothing god knows what
00:36:16.060 and here you are five minutes late five years later maybe feels like five minutes getting
00:36:21.060 still getting involved with talents can we talk about the note boys a little bit right of course
00:36:26.740 So so over I've watched this happen and been privy to a lot of it. You've built this relationship with full send with Nelk over the past couple of months. What do you see as the what do you see in the Nelk boys in that group and what do you see in their future?
00:36:40.320 Yeah. What I see with them now is just a group of guys that I love just being around. They're a group of fun Canadian guys having a good time. It's a little different than what they're creating online. So the first things first is I just love being around them and hanging out with them. 1.00
00:36:59.800 And then, you know, some creative ideas come out of us having our meetings and, you know, I think the thing is in this last the last time I was on Impulsive is I think it's important for them and everybody to start building products and brands.
00:37:14.020 You know, like, you know, you know, it's no secret, you know, how much money they make off YouTube.
00:37:18.560 Right. So they've got to build other products and brands and they do a great job with merch as does Logan and, you know, other creators.
00:37:25.700 but you know i think it's time to like use this platform and start building other things and it's
00:37:30.300 so it's hard though especially now because it's so oversaturated merch a merch yeah i mean unless
00:37:35.540 unless you're a nelk boy or james charles it's hard to move product like the days of making
00:37:41.420 50 million of grossing 50 million dollars in a year for merch only few creators can do that still
00:37:48.760 and i mean you chose right with the nelk boys but when you talk about developing product are
00:37:53.880 you looking elsewhere i know i mean i don't know what i don't know what he wants to talk about
00:37:58.340 today but you know there's there's just speak closely into the mic with your ideas because
00:38:02.620 remember your ideas are nothing what happened to macklin uh he said one thing he took a spiritual
00:38:09.620 journey i'm facing this way i liked you better when you were on shrooms i'm not gonna lie to you
00:38:13.320 psychedelic yeah i don't know how much he's gonna be able to talk about today on it but you know
00:38:20.020 everything's pending and usually i don't like to talk about pending stuff and not not because it's
00:38:23.960 like oh you know it's not the right thing to do it's like i also don't want to get people's hopes
00:38:27.280 up you know you know i mean like you know how many messages i get um from the last uh podcast
00:38:32.440 the impulsive episode where's your book where's your book you know like already i was like hey
00:38:36.380 we talked about i want you know mike said you want to write a book but it's like everyone like
00:38:40.400 where's your book where's your book so you know the book is in the works still it's going to be
00:38:43.920 a little while but um you know but um you know i mean like everything like you know i try not to
00:38:49.400 talk about anything until it's done ready to go keep expectations low yeah same way same way you
00:38:55.120 the book you talked about a little bit on the last the last episode but we should probably
00:38:58.920 bring it back for people who may have missed it you wanted to create a book for people to explain
00:39:04.720 the idea that anyone could utilize social media in this day and age to create a revenue stream
00:39:11.620 is that is that basically the gist of the book yeah just building a business using youtube you
00:39:15.520 You know, I think everyone now more than ever, you know, wants to learn how to create a business
00:39:20.680 on YouTube. How do I, how do I start? People don't know. People don't even know like, you know,
00:39:24.460 like how to even create an account and how to sync your Gmail with your YouTube. You know what
00:39:28.340 I mean? That's like the full playbook. You know, when do I start monetizing? I have a friend of
00:39:32.580 mine, um, uh, LA paparazzi. I think you guys might know Kevin Wong, right? Like crushing it, you
00:39:38.260 know, crushing it. And he's like calling me all the time, John, I'm crushing it. You know,
00:39:40.960 how do i make money doing this you know i mean like he just doesn't know and he's so
00:39:45.480 focused on actually delivering the content and growing his channel you know i mean like now
00:39:50.640 it's like okay well now okay good you figure that part out which is actually probably the hardest
00:39:55.020 part oh yeah yeah i mean like go to chapter seven and now you know whatever chapter you know how to
00:39:59.880 monetize your channel you know how to get into the different tiers of advertising how to not be
00:40:04.660 dependent on adsense and maybe even having other products um you know i mean like those you know
00:40:10.040 The playbook for anyone who has any kind of question, what kind of content, what to make.
00:40:17.420 I want a whole chapter on collaboration.
00:40:19.260 But it varies.
00:40:20.320 It varies.
00:40:20.820 And this is the expertise of the creator or of the business builder is like, how does a paparazzi make a product?
00:40:30.440 Are you working on something or is he working on something?
00:40:33.580 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:40:34.240 you have to understand who you are what you do and probably most importantly who's consuming
00:40:40.740 the thing that you're making yeah well i mean that's you know you and you also you know in the
00:40:47.340 case of the paparazzi with what some of these guys have uh cracked like like kevin wong like no
00:40:52.440 comment is you know finding the people who are you know the the the tags and the titles that
00:40:58.440 actually make that video um discoverable right like that's a huge thing it's like okay you know
00:41:04.800 i mean so you know if you notice these guys learned clickbait overnight all of a sudden like
00:41:08.120 how did these guys know that you know that's a form clickbait it's its own formula yeah but
00:41:12.300 they've they've you know learned that and they know that the people you know bryce hall and
00:41:16.560 some of these other names are like hot topics on youtube because these guys are searched so much
00:41:21.880 on youtube but they don't have the channels you know i mean they don't have the content
00:41:26.080 you know i mean to provide so you know and i don't know if bryce hall has a youtube channel i'm
00:41:30.840 assuming yeah yeah but maybe he's not super active like he's more active than we are okay well that
00:41:37.500 even also helps too because the more active he is the more you know people go in this rabbit hole
00:41:41.980 of watching bryce bryce you don't want bryce and then they're done and then you know bryce hall
00:41:46.040 you know eats at catch is now recommended next you know i mean and then kevin gets that view
00:41:51.120 because of all the traffic bryce is sending you know i mean there's a whole formula he's done a
00:41:55.020 great, he's done a great job. And it's funny too, because Kevin Wong was very much like a
00:41:59.660 A-list, uh, paparazzi. I mean, he, he, and, and, and still is, but has shot Drake and Kylie and,
00:42:07.260 and everybody under the sun in these private, both private and very public, uh, paparazzi meetups.
00:42:13.080 But now over the past, I think quarantine was what did this to him. I think quarantine is what
00:42:18.120 reshaped his model has very much become the influencer and uh tiktok um environment
00:42:27.960 paparazzo and and his videos reflect that and he posts what five to ten videos a day right now
00:42:35.320 i would say you know i think you nailed it i think covid you know uh covid really made you know i
00:42:42.860 think to myself because people ask like what's the difference between a fine start and a tiktok start
00:42:46.500 and i think covid is the answer because what happened with these paparazzi guys you know they
00:42:51.780 they you know they made their money you know capturing celebrities out in the streets but
00:42:56.640 celebrities don't go on the streets right like what's her name jennifer garner right like she
00:43:00.620 can't be a scene out you know i mean like why partying well because she would get backlash
00:43:05.140 because you know like hey you're in california covid's you know i mean what are you doing where's
00:43:09.080 your mask you know i mean all this is all this stuff where the the tiktok stars don't care like
00:43:13.280 they're going out you know why because they're young they're not employed what do you mean
00:43:19.140 jennifer garner gets employed she's oh yeah yeah yeah yeah she has yeah she has a studio that could
00:43:23.860 be like hey we don't you know i mean so these self-employed young stars don't have to answer
00:43:27.360 to fucking anyone ever agree and they're themselves they're not playing a character
00:43:31.120 they're not pretending to be someone else on screen a noble art but it's just they they have 0.98
00:43:36.580 the ability to give less fucks than the traditional star less but not all the way no fucks i mean a 0.97
00:43:42.580 lot of them still depend on brand a lot of them still don't give a fuck and youtube i think both 0.98
00:43:46.660 i think both them are right because johnny brought up a point right off the bat which is which is
00:43:50.080 their youth financial um uh any kind of breakdown of finances or your your appearance fees is not
00:43:58.200 always the reason why people because because listen jennifer if you told jennifer garner
00:44:02.540 yo you can still make a hundred million next year if you go out during covid she still wouldn't do
00:44:08.440 it because she doesn't want that to reflect her image i think it's it's closer to his point which
00:44:14.540 is social media stars care less about their their image and their legacy than they don't care that
00:44:20.840 new york times is talking about their parties i mean jennifer garner is a mother she's got it 0.99
00:44:25.000 she's got a whole you know legacy to leave behind her bryce hall yeah but maybe not give a shit 0.77
00:44:30.720 maybe not someone with the class of jennifer garner but like the youth i think could partially
00:44:36.400 be attributed to where these people are going like they they don't think beforehand oh like
00:44:41.100 if i go to saddle ranch there's probably a good chance that kevin wong's gonna shoot me i think
00:44:45.600 they do think but but but you and i both know very well yeah the uh a-listers the ones who are a
00:44:52.080 little older maybe 25 to 35 are still going out in hollywood they're going to house parties yeah
00:44:58.200 the ones with no phones the one where uh if you're the person taking a video you get kicked out
00:45:03.440 it's still it's still happening i just think the youth aspect lends the uh the young internet stars
00:45:11.120 to a level of naivety that gets them in trouble the the old the older uh
00:45:16.540 experienced maybe traditional stars are a little smarter about how they're breaking the
00:45:24.100 the rules yeah yeah yeah but but but so now what's happening is so the paparazzi need to
00:45:29.160 capture somebody right because they're not you know like these young guys are going out and they
00:45:32.980 have that youtube clout right like they're hot you know you know bright you know upload a video
00:45:37.140 bryce hall or noah beck or addison ray or even you like i saw a uh random video just came up
00:45:43.040 suggested to me um catch yeah it had like at the time i had 300 000 views and it was like a paparazzi
00:45:49.100 page i've never heard of you know i mean like these yeah yeah it was just the from the other
00:45:53.160 night um i could tell you didn't know you you're waiting for your car oh so okay so i want to ask
00:45:58.460 about this i want to ask about this i find paparazzi to be incredibly invasive i always
00:46:03.480 have but at first it was like cool right oh i'm getting paparazzi like i'm i'm popular i'm
00:46:07.980 important i feel good now i'm like hey i had it bro at the grove the other day i'm waiting in line
00:46:12.680 uh to get shoes from nike and this girl starts tmz comes up and just sticks his camera in our 0.95
00:46:18.580 face and just starts asking some like just weird shit about like a farting fetish or something and 0.93
00:46:23.260 I was like, hey, while this is incredibly stimulating, I'd love to just, like, stand here and get my shoes and go home, like, in peace. 0.98
00:46:31.460 She was nice.
00:46:31.980 She left. 0.96
00:46:32.920 But I am fascinated by the, I don't know if it's inability, but paparazzi really doesn't give a fuck about you or your space. 0.67
00:46:44.680 So is it a conflict of interest?
00:46:46.420 Because I know Bieber's had a lot of run-ins with paparazzi.
00:46:50.440 He tells them off all the time.
00:46:51.840 He has conversations.
00:46:53.260 are you doing man why this job isn't for you i can't believe you're doing this i can't tell you
00:46:57.960 how many hours i have watched justin people go okay okay talk to me and they'll just sit there
00:47:04.100 and there's sometimes where he'll leave them and he'll just close the door like i die no he's so
00:47:09.540 funny it gets old it gets old so it you're a master at forming these relationships but
00:47:16.940 is there ever a conflict of interest in what with with the paparazzi i don't i don't want to put
00:47:24.260 words in beaver's mouth but you know sometimes the paparazzi makes him feel uncomfortable and
00:47:30.520 you're good friends with one of those people yeah is that a conflict of interest oh um oh you mean
00:47:35.480 with kevin wonk yeah oh well like is beaver ever like hey johnny like what the this guy no from
00:47:41.740 time and time again is sitting outside a restaurant i just took my wife on a date yeah well kevin's
00:47:46.160 not one of those guys okay kevin is like the nice guy like you know i actually don't know him i think
00:47:50.620 yeah kevin um i remember one up to a southern night yeah go ahead yeah i remember uh jake was
00:47:55.720 at boa once um jake was at boa once and um and and i guess kevin tried to interview him and jake
00:48:03.660 didn't want to deal with it so jake walked right past them and kind of gave him attitude but it
00:48:07.280 didn't really know him that much and just didn't want to deal with it right just like you don't
00:48:10.240 want to deal with it just sometimes sometimes right it's all circumstantial but but but kevin
00:48:14.780 text me he's like hey just a heads up next time you tell jake tell him i apologize i could tell
00:48:20.180 he was having a bad day like that's the kind of guy he is now some of these other guys you know
00:48:24.120 maybe these newer ones are the ones who are just really thirsty yeah they get in your face you know 0.94
00:48:28.640 and they or they ask dumb questions you know i mean like i've seen some paparazzi guys ask some 0.97
00:48:33.080 questions you know some sometimes like 15 16 year old tiktokers i'm like whoa like yeah they do 0.91
00:48:38.720 i don't want to know about this next video please but here's my here's the way i've always looked
00:48:44.680 and not to not to compare the two not to compare them you know perfectly but the garbage man when
00:48:51.380 he comes to pick up the garbage sometimes comes at 7 30 in the morning the can smashed on the 0.98
00:48:55.780 ground so i don't want to hear that shit i'm sleeping but guess what it's a necessary service 0.99
00:49:00.720 to do it and people and people are making money off doing that service and so it's right and so 0.98
00:49:06.620 thanks for the athletes and so when you look at paparazzi there is there there are consumers to
00:49:13.300 that content and there is a whole industry behind it so well me and him may not like it
00:49:18.400 the industry exists right and so i think i think it comes down to people like kevin
00:49:23.680 who understand that there is a boundary that exists and to respect it obviously we remember
00:49:28.840 me and you remember the story of princess die and we've seen how far paparazzi's overreaction
00:49:33.800 can can lead and you know a lot has changed in that space i want to i want to tie it back just
00:49:38.900 a little bit to business building because this is what we're talking about earlier
00:49:42.120 how do you help someone like kevin wong and i know you're not working with him from from a
00:49:48.620 business perspective uh create a product because the way that the way that i've always looked at
00:49:53.220 uh real influence in this world and especially building a brand around your influence is 0.87
00:49:57.520 if you can't make someone feel something you don't have shit that has always been my belief 0.90
00:50:04.840 on it so if you can't make someone feel something viscerally inside them from witnessing your your 0.98
00:50:11.140 content whether it's inspiration uh disgust whatever it is some sort of visceral reaction
00:50:16.640 or bond to your content it's very hard to then sell a product to them so how would you instruct
00:50:23.000 someone out there who doesn't make content that shows a personality or creates that bond to sell
00:50:28.740 a product yeah it depends and that's a great question you know i don't think everyone has
00:50:33.520 an answer like if i had an answer for every youtuber what product they should sell like
00:50:37.860 you know i mean like you'd be the billion dollar man you know i mean but like i think it just
00:50:41.800 hits you sometimes you know i mean it just randomly hits you like you know i mean like
00:50:46.640 you know sometimes it's simple like sometimes okay dr j you're a producer you have an ear for
00:50:50.980 music you should have headphones there's no one who owns a headphone space yet you know i mean
00:50:54.880 okay let's do it you know sometimes a no-brainer you know i mean but sometimes it's like you know
00:50:59.860 i mean sometimes it just hits you you know i mean like you know i mean the flavored sugar water
00:51:04.600 that 50 cent so you know they would vitamin water you know i mean sometimes something random i don't
00:51:08.900 know what the answer is for say kevin wong specifically but i think something will hit
00:51:12.640 him one day you know don't could be anything i don't know you know i mean you know i wonder who
00:51:17.720 the first uh social media star or social media based person will be with the first billion
00:51:26.020 dollar brand you think it could be full send i think it could be full send i think it could be
00:51:32.380 you one of you guys i think it could be lele i could think it'd be james charles lele lele's a
00:51:38.180 machine you've been on the lele train from damn near day one she became a she became she went
00:51:47.420 from viner to one of the biggest latin stars in the world how'd y'all do that you know um obviously
00:51:55.160 we've got a great team when it comes to our music with interscope but at the end of the day lele's
00:51:59.760 talented you know i mean just can't you know i mean i know she was here she's like it's 60
00:52:03.640 johnny and sammy 40 me like no she's talented she did nine years opera you know i mean like
00:52:09.180 she had music in her she didn't just wake up one day be like i want to do music you know i mean like
00:52:14.340 she has you know she did nine years opera she wanted to be a musician she actually got you know
00:52:20.040 her uncle is a very very popular latin artist cheyenne like like a legend in the latin community
00:52:26.400 he made a video for her last song and like blew up in the latin world so like she knows her family's
00:52:30.660 music she's had music you know i mean it's just she got sidetracked a little bit with vine you
00:52:35.040 know when she signed up for vine and blew up you know um when she was 16 years old or so but
00:52:40.000 leila's just talented she's just you know now she's got a podcast multifaceted she's funny
00:52:46.280 she's funny she's got real comedy in her she's a comic like she's not like she's got like you know
00:52:51.520 she's actually funnier in person sometimes than on video you know i mean like so some of the things
00:52:55.660 that come out of her mouth i'm like what yeah she's wild she killed it when she came on this
00:53:00.000 podcast yeah she's entertaining yeah are y'all leaning hard into the latin market um because
00:53:05.760 it it looks like from an outsider's perspective it looks like it like i noticed when she really
00:53:11.400 started to to dive into that market she went from you know the 20 million followers on instagram
00:53:15.700 to all of a sudden for what 45 ish no she's not at 45 million i think she is it's it's to say
00:53:22.780 she's probably the probably one of the most followed uh if not the most followed social
00:53:27.240 social media based star on the planet i think so yeah um is it because of that international reach
00:53:32.500 that that helped when she because she also hosted um the number one um tv show in mexico
00:53:38.140 a couple years ago lavois which is the voice mexico it's um and she was the host and this
00:53:43.500 is like i think it was like i forgot the numbers but like someone like 12 or 15 million viewers
00:53:47.680 every monday watch the show and she was the main host of this show so um oh my that's the only
00:53:54.280 picture it's a glow up 8.3 look at the next one though the global spotify chart wait oh my god
00:54:01.260 all right wait this one no no no this one no i think yeah yeah right there she has the number
00:54:07.740 23 song on the global spotify yeah that song continues to rise she showed me before it was
00:54:14.360 released she wanted to play here bro she took me aside and hide four years ago hammered so drunk
00:54:20.860 and she goes logan i gotta tell you something when we're in the back corner just me and lele
00:54:25.080 and i was like all right look what is it i didn't know what to expect it was such a
00:54:29.560 such weird timing to get deep you know she goes i want to be a big musician star a musician i want
00:54:37.020 to be an artist and and make music i said that's like we were just making vines at the time right
00:54:41.700 comedy sketches and she goes and i want to show you my song and she showed me one of her first
00:54:45.580 songs i was stunned yeah how good she was it's so cool to see her be fruitful with that talent 0.94
00:54:55.240 because we know you know you and i bro we know so many people everyone in la everyone's fucking
00:54:59.400 talented here yeah but being able to use that utilize it and pivot in a way where you can have 0.74
00:55:05.120 the number 23 global song in the world just seeing her come up man whatever you guys did
00:55:11.180 behind the scenes mad admirable one other thing too with her and um what one thing that's helped
00:55:17.280 is obviously starts i think it starts with number one third talent two is the team that's built
00:55:21.400 around there but the third is the latin audience loves her like there's not a single hate that
00:55:28.820 comes from like mexico colombia argentina spain like they like i've been to like uh latin events
00:55:35.400 with their like latin grammys and uh latin billboards and like when she walks the red
00:55:40.560 carpet like everyone is like oh lele pond like like they just i think they love that that that
00:55:46.640 craziness humor you know i mean some people in in in the general market in the u.s might be like
00:55:51.700 oh she's not funny she's you know some some people you know i mean like most people love her but
00:55:55.480 some people just might be like i don't get this comedy because it's so latin that like the latin
00:56:00.900 world loves her and that you know i mean that's a huge audience i mean i mean there's a billion
00:56:05.900 people from latinos from canada down to chile you know in north and south north central and
00:56:12.760 south america it's billion like that's you know the population of china is the population of
00:56:16.640 latinos when you you know add up the americas together you know i mean and they adore her
00:56:21.340 and that's that's her audience if you're making domestic content in the united states right now
00:56:25.800 You come from a Latin culture or any any any culture outside of America and you are not playing into that culture in a heavy way from a marketing standpoint.
00:56:34.780 You're making a massive fucking mistake because those because those audiences are so rabid and so supportive of the idea of someone from their their country making it here domestically in America. 0.78
00:56:48.460 that idea of making it in America continues to be such a a globally dreamed upon and rooted for 0.98
00:56:55.380 thing and so to see her do that has been great but I see I see other artists who do not do a
00:57:01.920 good enough job of that yeah yeah I think that that also helps her too right like when she's
00:57:06.080 successful in America and she's like coming on impulsive and you know you guys mess with her
00:57:10.800 you know I mean it's like oh wow like that's you know I mean someone in Mexico or someone in
00:57:14.200 you know and peru is like whoa you know so there's a there's a impulsive fan down there and sees lele 0.98
00:57:20.840 and it's like wow lele made it you know i mean impulsive you know fucks with her you know i mean 0.95
00:57:25.260 like you know so final step man yeah but that's how you know that's how you know you made you 0.99
00:57:30.440 come on this shit ryan garcia did it guess what next fight first round knockout next fight first 0.99
00:57:36.220 round knockout this show this show makes birth stars i'll go ahead and take all the credit for 1.00
00:57:40.900 later are you leaning into anwar in the middle east um yeah i mean i mean i mean that's that's
00:57:47.020 just what anwar you know that that's what anwar wants that's his culture you know i mean he is
00:57:51.160 he's um he's palestinian and you know he's um you know when he goes out to uh he went to palestine
00:57:56.680 last year summer and same thing like there was a mob of people you know it was very similar when
00:58:01.640 you went to dubai remember how crazy that was like that's what happens with anwar imagine anwar
00:58:05.260 that you know one of theirs you know i got asked a lot when i was in dubai do you know anwar i'm
00:58:09.880 yeah yeah yeah we went to dubai a week after you did and it was like yeah yeah yeah um but yeah
00:58:16.700 anwar you know makes sense there and um you know um you know and that's someone else that's just
00:58:22.820 pure comedy you know i mean like anwar needs a stand-up like we need a great stand-up get him
00:58:28.780 in while you do it too man so if you're gonna do like stand-up classes please please get george
00:58:33.300 involved yeah we wanted this to be we don't want it to be big um but um i'm getting a lot of shots
00:58:39.680 from you today buddy i always know you know george is like now i understand your your brand shots i
00:58:46.020 get it i understand it i love george so much we talked uh for a second about uh a very comedic
00:58:54.420 person that's in your life sammy shahidi what has it been like building a a powerhouse of a brand
00:59:01.240 a studio with your brother yeah let me tell you the difference between me and sam is going back
00:59:05.560 to our earlier conversations i am the ideas guy i'm the guy who's just gonna sit and twirl my
00:59:09.820 thumbs but oh all right great yep yes that works that's a great idea and then then i call sam and
00:59:16.040 sam just makes it happen you know i mean like you know or tells me like hey actually i don't think
00:59:20.200 it's a good idea because this and that or you know by the way you know you know someone's already
00:59:24.940 doing that like your idea is actually not an idea it's already been done i was like oh man you know
00:59:29.500 I mean, like he's the boots on the ground because I spent a decent amount of time with Sammy.
00:59:33.140 I see him out a lot.
00:59:33.940 And he's he's a little bit different than you.
00:59:36.100 And you're in a in a relationship, obviously.
00:59:37.920 And he has told me he is kind of anti-relationship.
00:59:42.180 I mean, he likes the idea of being out there.
00:59:44.760 Like when you leave dinner at catch, it's after sitting with Kyle and the rest of the full send team.
00:59:49.600 You go home, you know, to the relationship.
00:59:51.680 Oh, he's out with them till 4 a.m.
00:59:52.800 He goes out with Kyle.
00:59:53.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:54.200 He's the boots on the ground.
00:59:55.400 And you need that, right?
00:59:57.140 Yeah.
00:59:57.760 Mike likes my boots.
00:59:59.020 Yeah.
00:59:59.220 yeah yeah but um yeah you know that's sam is great for that um you know that's where we're
01:00:05.560 we're different um very different there but uh you know he's uh he's always been like that he's
01:00:10.740 always been and my mom my mom's dad um which we never met she he passed away my mom was five
01:00:18.820 but he was a um we're families for kurdish and he was a general for the kurdish army but he would
01:00:24.640 my mom told my grandma used to tell me a story was her husband that he would run the army at
01:00:30.660 nights and then party till 6 a.m and then get up at 7 a.m and run the army you know i mean i was
01:00:37.820 like wait a minute that sounds familiar that's crazy i don't know how i think it's a genetic
01:00:43.980 thing with sam yeah you guys do a cartoon right now we have a we have a we have a children's 0.92
01:00:49.360 programming um no not that way really oh we have the puppet show that is fucking hilarious 0.59
01:00:54.380 awkward puppets yeah yeah yeah with rudy hilarious it's great it's it's like our therapy 0.54
01:01:01.180 it's like the things that you can't really say yeah i mean yeah puppets can say anything yeah
01:01:06.520 yeah yeah puppets could get away with everything can you yeah yeah maybe let me see if i can find
01:01:10.760 something let's go to youtube.com slash awkward puppets yeah you've had conversations well not
01:01:15.760 you rudy has had conversations with uh floyd mayweather bieber this channel has 1.5 million
01:01:23.360 subscribers i remember rudy was not even trying doing this on no you guys are barely scratching
01:01:27.660 sorry because this stuff is haley steinfeld this this is craig floyd mayweather go to the doc
01:01:33.680 so the doctor the mike tyson yeah the doctor one went completely viral but we upload on instagram
01:01:38.100 first so the instagram has all the views but um just watch it i'm not gonna get copyright no no
01:01:44.660 just you should watch a commercial stay on the wide stay on the wide i'm here with the uh world
01:01:48.880 champion boxer i'm former world champion what do you mean well the last fight that i fought that
01:01:54.660 was the money fight last fight come on bro last fight for real absolutely that's like the fifth
01:01:59.720 time you said that third three strikes and you're out is this for real for real for real or am i
01:02:04.140 gonna hear in the news tomorrow you're fighting somebody else oh absolutely be real with me
01:02:07.300 absolutely not because the next fight they're gonna try to get i chose a bad girl go just go
01:02:11.640 to the go to the doctor we'll cut it out we'll cut it out well you gotta watch the whole thing
01:02:16.740 Or you could watch the doctor one or the Mike Tyson, but let me tell you that the story,
01:02:20.740 what makes this Floyd Mayweather one so special is this was his exclusive first interview
01:02:24.920 after he beat Conor McGregor, like before Kimmel or Fallon or anything.
01:02:29.740 This was the first interview he did after it was just a couple of days after the McGregor
01:02:33.640 fight.
01:02:34.000 Sorry about that.
01:02:34.860 All right.
01:02:35.240 So you started with star power and then you moved to a place now where it's just creative
01:02:38.520 genius because this stuff is hilarious.
01:02:40.340 Hello, doctor.
01:02:40.980 You here for your annual checkup?
01:02:42.220 Yes.
01:02:42.840 Good.
01:02:43.160 Good.
01:02:44.000 Before we get started, how's everything been?
01:02:45.780 You know. 0.95
01:02:46.740 I'm still married, so pretty shitty. 0.97
01:02:50.300 Well, you know what they say. 0.97
01:02:51.880 Secret to a happy marriage remains a secret.
01:02:54.180 Oh, that doesn't help me at all.
01:02:58.760 Do you smoke?
01:02:59.740 No.
01:03:00.460 You sure?
01:03:01.380 No.
01:03:02.060 You're not sure?
01:03:02.700 I mean, I occasionally have like a cigarette or like a joint or crack.
01:03:08.100 It's a yes or no question, Diego.
01:03:09.700 Okay, yes.
01:03:10.580 Do you drink?
01:03:11.460 No.
01:03:12.060 Are you sure?
01:03:12.740 I mean, like casually, like at a party or a wedding or something like that.
01:03:16.340 right like my house alone every night what do you drink just like a glass of wine at dinner
01:03:22.760 okay that's healthy and then a shot of tequila okay and then another shot um and then a few more
01:03:28.400 and then some more and then i usually pass out then i wake up and i take a few more bro something
01:03:35.220 about watching this puppet talk about his alcoholism is very soothing you yeah you guys
01:03:40.820 are onto something it's great i think i well so what do you do what do you do with this just keep
01:03:44.540 making uh you develop it into some sort of long-form show we've we've talked about that idea
01:03:50.200 before covid we were actually working on a short film movie um we had rudy um you know wrote a lot
01:03:56.620 of the script and you know it was supposed to you know but obviously because of production reasons
01:04:00.440 it had to be on hold but now we're just making these short videos and i mean this format is great
01:04:05.660 because it's perfect for the internet yeah it doesn't make the craziest amount of money but
01:04:09.160 it's more fun and you know i mean and we're just building the brand and you know eventually maybe
01:04:12.640 becomes a uh you know family guy south park simpsons type of thing i mean the videos are
01:04:17.780 getting more views than some vloggers vlogs like they get one like plus one million views are you
01:04:23.180 are you in a you and your brother like yin and yang would you say it sounds like there's a good
01:04:28.000 balance between you two i think that that forms a good solid team yeah yeah i mean we are you know
01:04:33.020 i mean obviously you butt heads a lot too because you're brothers so you're a lot of like call each
01:04:36.880 other certain things or you know like tell someone you know i mean like you don't have to be
01:04:40.980 politically correct if someone has a shitty idea you tell them to you know i mean you don't have 1.00
01:04:44.220 to like you know beat around the bush you just say your idea sucks you're an idiot how'd you 1.00
01:04:48.380 even think of that you know i mean you're allowed to say that to your brother i do that with my 1.00
01:04:51.860 brother a lot who you now manage that's interesting what's that like you just it's great you took jake
01:04:57.020 under your wing and if i'm not mistaken the very first day that you officially were managing him 0.83
01:05:03.720 his house got raided by the fbi way to go buddy what the fuck are you doing that's tricky 0.94
01:05:09.660 press that's true yeah let me tell you something though you know a lot of people ask me why 0.98
01:05:15.260 jake you know i mean like why what were you thinking and let me one thing i could tell you
01:05:20.360 about jake and i know you know this logan but i want everyone listening to know this is
01:05:23.440 jake is um what people don't know and i'm gonna i want to share a mayweather story
01:05:27.360 you know that uh reminds me of a lot of the type of person jake is jake you know to the world might
01:05:35.340 come off as you know the internet's villain but jake is also the kind of guy that one day heaven
01:05:42.120 forbid i have a friend of mine who maybe you know i don't but i'm just showing as an example if i
01:05:46.640 were to have a friend who was struggling you know with an illness and if they needed something and
01:05:53.720 i told jake about it his first thing would be how can i help you know that's the kind of person jake
01:05:58.840 is off the camera you know i mean like he wouldn't be you know i know so many different people like
01:06:03.060 dude i don't want to hear about this it's so negative you know i mean i'm sorry but you know
01:06:07.040 i mean like i know some of you but jake would be like what do i need to do i'm sorry you know i
01:06:10.760 mean he could be in the middle of training making middle of something you know i mean that's kind of
01:06:14.920 you know i mean that's the kind of person i've known in you and your and your brother and uh
01:06:18.660 you know that's the number one reason i was like all right jake wants to work together he could
01:06:22.800 use some help i'm in because i know the real jake paul um reminds me of this story this floyd
01:06:27.920 Mayweather story that I've never shared publicly, but my first meeting ever with Floyd Mayweather,
01:06:32.900 we went to this diner. And the deal with me and him, there wasn't an official deal or anything
01:06:39.940 yet. We were just hanging out, figuring out ways to work together. And we went to this diner in
01:06:44.400 downtown Las Vegas. And they all obviously knew him. It was like this place he always goes to.
01:06:51.580 I was with him. And there was this lady, our waitress, and he knew her, she knew him.
01:06:57.920 And, um, and at the end of our, uh, we had, it wasn't even a dinner. It was like a three or 4am. But, um, at the end of, at the end of the meal, he asked her, I forgot her name, but he asked her, he goes, Hey, um, I just have a question to ask you. And this is, this lady was a bigger, bigger lady, you know, like, um, you know, you know, just, just very overweight. And I asked them, Hey, um, I have a question. If you had all the money in the world, what, uh, what would you do? And she goes, I would get myself out of credit card debt.
01:07:27.320 And Floyd goes, no, not that. Like, what would you do to really improve your life? And she got all embarrassed. And she goes, well, it's really embarrassing, but I would actually get a breast reduction because I'm so large. It makes it hard for me to do any kind of cardio work. And it's, you know, affecting, you know, my working out and I can't work out. And, you know, like, you know, that's why I'm the size that I am.
01:07:48.720 floyd goes all right how much do you think that would cost she's like i don't know so i don't know
01:07:52.640 what do you think six thousand seven so i probably somewhere around there i never had a chance to
01:07:57.140 look i'm a you know i work you know graveyard at a diner you know in las vegas yeah we the dinner
01:08:03.480 was done and he goes into a bag and he takes out a stack of ten thousand dollars cash and puts it
01:08:09.060 under the the the envelope where the bill is and he goes let's go and i go wow floyd that is
01:08:16.120 incredible like what you know i mean like this you know what we should call the press we should
01:08:20.820 we should let people know you did that he goes no you are not to ever do that no one could ever
01:08:25.020 know that i ever did that that's for me you and her to know he's like he's like you know people
01:08:29.880 are gonna want to watch me fight because they want to see me lose because they don't like me 0.91
01:08:33.480 that's how i'm gonna make this money oh damn you know i was like wow okay you know like all right 0.98
01:08:39.420 i'll just sit back he was tipping waiters ten thousand dollars off camera before youtube has 0.98
01:08:44.480 ever did it is there a chance that he did that knowing that it would plant the seed for you to
01:08:50.080 tell that story one day here on no in fact he's probably gonna see this up that one rule he said
01:08:55.500 don't tell anybody yeah no well that's 10 years ago it was over 10 and a half years ago so i could
01:08:59.580 tell the story now because i wanted people to kind of understand who these kind of people are
01:09:05.200 when it's not you know when they're not in front of the camera you know i mean like so many people
01:09:09.720 don't know these stories so they just make their assumption i can't tell you how many people text 0.97
01:09:13.680 me what are you thinking working with jake paul and i'm like who you know fucking you to tell me 0.94
01:09:20.440 you know i mean like you don't know jake like i know jake you know i mean like you're just going 0.99
01:09:23.840 off fed fbi raid and you know parties at houses you know i mean you don't know the type of person
01:09:29.120 he is off camera it's people believe what they see and when they only see or are fed a certain
01:09:34.680 narrative sometimes i mean you can't blame them when when people tell me yeah like uh i think
01:09:40.980 ninja just uh made up made a comment i think i think we have it here oh lord yeah ninja made
01:09:46.040 a comment um talking about why he chose twitch over youtube gaming he said youtuber is such a
01:09:51.780 bad name i don't want to say bad name it's just the news no one ever reports on a youtuber getting
01:09:56.140 a million live viewers or 500 000 plus live viewers on a stream or raising millions of
01:09:59.760 dollars for charity when someone like logan paul f's up right it's youtuber this youtuber this 0.91
01:10:03.940 youtuber this and so i have to my instagram is like oh fuck ninja well he didn't say anything 0.69
01:10:09.920 about you bad about you but he could have used anyone like like oh no but you have the most 0.95
01:10:14.540 historic is that why fuck up in the history of youtube yeah it's severity and weight of my 0.71
01:10:20.380 mistake was the biggest i totally i totally get it it was just so long ago and for someone who's 0.86
01:10:25.160 like so far removed from it my knee-jerk reaction is like my ego steps out of my body right and it's
01:10:32.140 like hey but he's right he's right my my name has a weight that is carried by my actions because
01:10:40.760 people were only fed a story that i chose to deliver them so i can't be mad but what he's
01:10:45.680 saying but what he's saying in that quote too is that if someone on youtube fucks up it drags the
01:10:51.200 platform this wasn't about you he just used you as a as a horse for his to carry his story which
01:10:56.080 is that if someone on youtube fucks up it becomes a youtube thing it becomes a problem with youtube
01:11:00.540 as a platform and he doesn't see 0.58
01:11:01.980 he says when a YouTuber
01:11:04.300 fucks up it's YouTube this YouTube that
01:11:06.100 yeah the stigma of being a YouTuber 0.99
01:11:07.760 I would presume he's saying
01:11:09.980 that doesn't exist on Twitch
01:11:11.900 yeah that's what I'm saying
01:11:13.200 a Twitcher? a streamer
01:11:15.980 a gamer exactly
01:11:16.900 YouTuber just has a nice title that fits well
01:11:19.880 but I get what he's saying
01:11:22.440 so it's tough
01:11:24.140 because you sleep in the bed you make
01:11:25.340 you sleep in the bed you make
01:11:27.020 and Jake can't complain
01:11:30.320 when when he's only doing certain things that the media decides to pick up and narrate and tell a
01:11:37.880 certain way because i know that jake that off-camera jake that we all talk about it in this
01:11:42.440 room and i do hope that one day both of us will get to a place where people are like oh these are
01:11:47.880 people like these are oh they were very dynamic complex human beings look at justin bieber now
01:11:51.980 yeah everyone loves just great example you know i mean he came out with holy and that was yeah but
01:11:56.600 But you know what I mean? But people, you know, you know, kind of like after a while, we're like, you know, I mean, like after so many years, like this guy's a good guy.
01:12:04.440 You know what I mean? Like, yeah, the media were twisting things and overreacting on certain things Justin was doing.
01:12:09.740 But after some time, they're like, this guy's a good guy. Let's leave him alone.
01:12:13.360 Well, that's what it is, too. I mean, it comes with a track record of breaking the mold that you've set for yourself.
01:12:20.000 Like Logan, it wasn't just time that fixed his image. It was a great podcast. We had great conversation.
01:12:25.860 and most importantly it's work most importantly it was not fucking up you can't no one no one's
01:12:32.300 gonna forgive jake in the same month period that he had an fbi raid a covid sponsored party 0.85
01:12:37.700 like that's not gonna happen it takes someone like you who comes in grabs the wheel as the
01:12:43.120 car's driving off the cliff straightens it out and then he drives down that street and does good
01:12:47.320 stuff good stuff good stuff for three years five years and they say jake paul's reformed he's like
01:12:52.640 his brother he went through the same growth or they've already left him alone or are you not
01:12:57.380 trying to go down that route because are you trying to take the route of people gonna buy
01:13:01.020 the jake paul fight to see jake paul and his and his fans will continue to to be his fan you know
01:13:05.780 i think there's a balance between right like i think there's a there's a balance between you
01:13:10.280 know um you know no you know no one wants to see the you know the good nice guy family guy walking
01:13:16.040 into you know to the to the arena to fight with you know you know a bible in hand and son and
01:13:22.560 daughter you know i mean husband i mean like no one wants to see that person you know i mean we
01:13:25.760 saw that with pacquiao right like pacquiao was a great fighter but he was like a family man like
01:13:29.640 he never sold nearly as many fights as say like floyd or some of these other people historically
01:13:35.440 and he was a great fighter who got beat by floyd but you know he still was a great fighter but um
01:13:39.580 and did numbers i mean don't you know he did a ton of numbers with it not nearly not nearly do
01:13:44.480 you see value in uh someone who drives 500 million people to watch a fight oh sorry 50 million people
01:13:51.240 to watch a fight, but is delivering a message about
01:13:53.080 Christianity and family values
01:13:54.900 versus $100 million to watch a fight
01:13:57.000 who's delivering a message of 1.00
01:13:58.200 I'm going to fuck everybody tonight when I 1.00
01:14:01.000 leave this fight. I think the morality 1.00
01:14:03.360 question is thrown out the window as soon
01:14:05.200 as you talk about the fight game. I mean, bro.
01:14:07.440 Really? There's no...
01:14:09.040 It's a fight game, dude.
01:14:10.960 Maybe in an ideal world, sure, the winner of the
01:14:13.200 fight ends his
01:14:14.880 victory speech with a gospel hymn.
01:14:17.900 Yeah. But fuck that, bro. 1.00
01:14:19.480 We want to see people kill each other. 1.00
01:14:20.920 But look at the numbers Logan did coming off that situation that happened.
01:14:25.640 You know what I mean?
01:14:26.140 Like, look at those numbers.
01:14:27.340 You know what I mean?
01:14:27.700 Dirty laundry pays the bills.
01:14:28.900 Yeah, I mean, like, you know, so.
01:14:31.040 Yeah.
01:14:32.740 Should we prime up another scandal over here, you think?
01:14:35.740 No, I think Jake's good.
01:14:36.840 No, I mean, on this side, on the Mavericks side.
01:14:38.520 On the Logan side, yeah, if he wants to fight, you know, maybe.
01:14:41.920 I'd just say ride the Pokemon wave right now.
01:14:43.820 It's doing good.
01:14:44.700 It's good.
01:14:45.940 I don't want Charizard's back right now, and we're just flying.
01:14:49.580 It's been pretty good.
01:14:50.920 It's been good to watch Mayweather do it.
01:14:53.460 And he's completely retired now, right?
01:14:55.820 Like out the game completely.
01:14:57.100 I mean, ask Logan.
01:14:58.580 What do you mean?
01:15:00.220 Oh, no.
01:15:02.300 Oh, no.
01:15:04.220 What do you mean?
01:15:05.540 Sorry, I didn't take silence.
01:15:06.620 I don't know.
01:15:07.660 Still, this happens.
01:15:09.240 Ask manager Jeff.
01:15:11.120 But I was always curious maybe why you didn't have a partner, you know?
01:15:17.500 And all of a sudden one day I see you got a girlfriend.
01:15:20.920 a steady girlfriend, a long-time girlfriend that turns into a fiancé.
01:15:24.900 And you're the happiest and most content I've ever seen you in your life,
01:15:28.520 and I'm so envious and happy for you as well
01:15:31.260 because there's a level of patience and, I guess,
01:15:34.920 just trust in life that you have to have that my person's coming.
01:15:38.580 I just saw it on The Bachelorette.
01:15:41.120 The oldest bachelorette ever.
01:15:42.820 She's 39.
01:15:43.440 She found her person.
01:15:44.240 And you found yours.
01:15:44.940 Are you 40?
01:15:46.100 Yeah.
01:15:46.440 At 40 years old.
01:15:47.520 She's in this room.
01:15:48.240 She's over there.
01:15:49.040 She's always been so kind to me.
01:15:50.500 before i even ever knew you guys were you guys were involved but uh i mean how wow congrats
01:15:58.220 thanks how'd you guys meet we met at her restaurant she managed the restaurant um
01:16:03.440 and i was there did you have a line or something because because she probably gets hit on all the
01:16:07.560 time right like like every time i i when i was single of course would deliver a line to a
01:16:12.400 waitress like a pretty waitress they hear this all the time yeah it's all it's all it's all
01:16:16.640 she wasn't a waitress she was the manager oh i know i know i know i know she big baller yeah
01:16:20.040 i'm just yeah for me i i already know how it is talking to the managers yeah i already know how
01:16:24.640 it is you're like yo let me speak to the manager how you doing yeah she's that how'd you do that
01:16:29.180 person um you know i i you know one day the bus just hit me you know like i was just there and
01:16:36.760 met her and you got hit by a boss in front of her well you know that's that she came to the
01:16:40.700 hospital no no i mean like love right like i got hit by the arrow you know i mean like it just 0.99
01:16:45.260 happened you know like wait at first sight type shit yes bullshit no cap cap what uh bottle cap 0.99
01:16:52.640 what's happening no one knows at this point he got some 40 so you got hit by a cupid's arrow 1.00
01:16:59.180 were you boozing or ripping fungi or some shit no no no no yeah no did you did you have a line 0.98
01:17:06.980 or did you guys fall into because i'm bro i know she hears this all the time right she works at a 0.99
01:17:11.580 A very prominent L.A. restaurant with successful, good-looking men
01:17:16.620 passing through there all the time.
01:17:18.180 So how'd you do it?
01:17:19.680 We just exchanged information, and then we just went on a couple of dates,
01:17:26.220 and then can I tell the whole story?
01:17:29.980 No, I can't tell the whole story.
01:17:30.440 No, no, don't do it.
01:17:31.220 I like to keep private people's information right.
01:17:32.860 She was seeing somebody at the time.
01:17:35.420 Oh, Lord, one of those.
01:17:37.060 Yeah, and then it's all history, and we're getting married next year.
01:17:40.640 that's incredible are you trying to wait post-covid i don't think we we scheduled everything
01:17:46.280 pre-covid so i think we're you know did you have to postpone it we didn't have to postpone it it's
01:17:50.940 it's in uh summer of 2021 so we're lucky then but we're just hoping you know things you know
01:17:56.380 we'll see how things go hopefully pfizer comes through i mean we're getting yeah
01:17:59.780 five million dollars of stock right after his announcement five million very strange that's
01:18:04.660 we have dinner tonight
01:18:07.400 we do
01:18:07.960 7.30pm
01:18:08.840 next billion dollar idea
01:18:10.980 is that right
01:18:11.960 hold on you know where
01:18:15.180 at catch
01:18:16.840 every time I go I see you and your bro
01:18:20.420 chopping it up with different people
01:18:22.820 NRG
01:18:23.420 that's the magic of Johnny
01:18:28.480 we didn't talk about them much
01:18:31.040 are you involved
01:18:32.920 oh yeah yeah how much is too much like are you are you just involved with so many people are
01:18:38.400 you doing too much no i mean no because this is the thing one is i'm involved with people that i
01:18:42.980 enjoy working with so nothing feels like a chore like i'm actually enjoying you know i mean and
01:18:46.840 everyone's different in their own ways right like that dinner when i was with um the energy fam is
01:18:52.080 like you know like i learned so much from these guys like it's a whole different world and these
01:18:56.840 guys are you know pretty much only focused on fortnight and call of duty but this like
01:19:00.920 gaming esports world is just so crazy because it's like not just fortnite call of duty you
01:19:05.880 know i mean like it's so much bigger with all these other you know leagues and organizations
01:19:09.720 and it's just only the beginning when it comes to esports and i'm just like so happy to be a you
01:19:15.120 know a part of it a part of them and then you know just witnessing this like you know this new
01:19:19.900 vertical of life crazy right yeah it's crazy it's you know i mean look i mean look at like
01:19:24.820 mr peace for instance like his gaming channel you know i think it was i was i had the fastest
01:19:30.320 his channel to hit 10 million subscribers and that belittled me it embarrassed me dwarfed me
01:19:35.180 oh he's past 10 million i didn't even know i i had i stopped like
01:19:38.260 yeah it's crazy he's killing it the uh the esports industry yeah man we got to do maverick gaming
01:19:46.180 yeah who knows listen thanks for coming on impulsive the number one podcast in the world
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01:19:54.140 wait to see you i catch uh soon yes he's trying to get an invite for tonight yeah for tonight yeah
01:19:59.660 I don't want to be a part of your billion dollars.
01:20:01.940 You're not coming with us.
01:20:02.720 I don't care.
01:20:03.080 I don't want a billion dollars.
01:20:04.220 I don't want money. 1.00
01:20:05.240 Money's for pussy. 1.00
01:20:05.780 I don't even know who's going. 1.00
01:20:07.020 I'm supposed to go with Mike.
01:20:08.200 He's like, get a table for six.
01:20:09.260 I was like, oh.
01:20:09.760 It's a surprise, man.
01:20:10.880 It's a surprise.
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