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00:02:42.360 Oh, jeez, man. Guys, I don't really think this is her online. Oh, jeez.

00:02:46.780 Oh, call Rick. Hey, Rick, is this really Chantel? I just saw her with Justin Bieber, man. Oh, jeez.

00:02:54.760 why do i look like a centaur

00:03:01.380 should i put a shirt on for the no just keep it on give the people what they want

00:03:06.220 are we rolling yeah fantastic welcome back to impulsive

00:03:10.520 also known as repulsive or compulsive what the number one podcast in the world thank you guys

00:03:17.960 for listening watching viewing and subscribing george is not here he's late i'm right here

00:03:22.780 We got the next best thing

00:03:24.380 My man blend manager Jeff

00:03:26.820 I love Jeff

00:03:28.500 Happy that you're staying in the states with me man

00:03:31.440 Oh he's not

00:03:33.060 He's coming

00:03:33.560 He hasn't said it

00:03:35.860 You've told me he's coming 0.99

00:03:37.080 He hasn't said it out of his beautiful Jewish lips 1.00

00:03:40.200 That he's coming 0.85

00:03:41.200 You coming to Puerto Rico

00:03:42.020 Sarah's sending me some options to look at

00:03:45.040 That is a real thing

00:03:46.600 Don't talk to me you neocolonial

00:03:48.820 Who crashed the housing market 0.96

00:03:52.620 Don't talk to me, bro. 1.00

00:03:54.280 The Puerto Ricans are waiting. 1.00

00:03:55.900 They're waiting for you, and they're unhappy, as I saw on Twitter.

00:03:59.360 Yeah, what the?

00:04:00.460 Get the news.

00:04:01.500 I mean, come on, guys.

00:04:03.300 I can't catch a break.

00:04:05.700 I'm like Obama in that meme.

00:04:08.040 Can I live?

00:04:09.160 No.

00:04:09.680 Apparently not in Puerto Rico without causing a stir.

00:04:12.760 Look at these memes.

00:04:14.200 Look at this one.

00:04:15.240 Logan Paul, when he steps off the plane in Puerto Rico,

00:04:17.620 just Ash Ketchum surrounded.

00:04:19.740 Don't use the Pokemon.

00:04:21.100 I know it's amazing to use Pokemon.

00:04:23.760 What about this one?

00:04:26.380 Logan Paul, a month in the living

00:04:27.920 Puerto Rico. What, am I just going to

00:04:29.960 turn into Fergie? You turn into blue, Andre's

00:04:32.180 girlfriend. Wait, do you

00:04:33.980 have the neocolonial one? I know you have one more.

00:04:36.560 You got to pull up the one I sent to the food

00:04:38.120 chat. Hey,

00:04:40.000 moving to Puerto Rico, Puerto Ricans. 1.00

00:04:42.600 That's so good. 0.99

00:04:44.300 Come on, guys. Come on.

00:04:46.160 Any good ones? Any like, we're welcoming

00:04:48.020 you with open arms? Yeah, so

00:04:49.640 so the twitter headline read uh mixed mixed reactions so yeah i mean some people are happy

00:04:56.000 about it some people are it's weird because you're either not happy that i'm moving to puerto rico

00:05:01.100 or happy that i'm leaving california like i got you thinking about something something thinking

00:05:07.840 about something but that's what i want to do i i feel like i should put a shirt on eventually

00:05:12.300 Put it on.

00:05:13.100 I knew while you do that, I knew I was in trouble today because I was sending stuff

00:05:20.880 to the food chat, and instead of ha, ha, ha, ha, he wrote in the food chat,

00:05:26.260 ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, it's happening.

00:05:28.580 Yeah, it's interesting. 0.99

00:05:29.540 I didn't realize people would give a fuck. 0.99

00:05:33.560 Bro. 1.00

00:05:33.960 That's weird.

00:05:35.040 Can I just, like, live my life?

00:05:37.160 Is that cool?

00:05:38.000 What do you guys think about that?

00:05:39.040 I think that was over, like, four years ago.

00:05:41.260 With certain things, sure

00:05:43.380 But I mean, calm down

00:05:46.500 Here's a good one

00:05:48.680 What you got?

00:05:49.900 I just love this one 0.99

00:05:51.020 Just because it's some virtue signaling fuckstick on Twitter 1.00

00:05:55.640 That just sent this ridiculous 0.98

00:05:57.940 Logan Paul moving to Puerto Rico in order to benefit from the tax breaks and tax exemptions 0.99

00:06:02.560 Whilst fucking over the housing market and promoting neocolonialism 0.97

00:06:06.200 Like bro, you said neocolonialism 0.99

00:06:09.300 And is that him?

00:06:10.240 Bro, zoom in on his face.

00:06:12.140 Does this look like him?

00:06:13.020 Logan, you, you.

00:06:13.960 Look at the camera.

00:06:15.020 Does this look like the face of a neocolonist? 1.00

00:06:18.780 Are you fucking shit, bro? 1.00

00:06:22.140 You really are neocolonist. 1.00

00:06:23.160 Tweeted by anal powder. 1.00

00:06:25.360 That's how we should have known. 1.00

00:06:26.340 Oh, shit, I didn't even notice that. 0.99

00:06:27.900 I loved it. 0.99

00:06:28.500 I loved it when I was there.

00:06:29.680 Yeah, great vacation spot.

00:06:30.880 My mom said it.

00:06:31.620 She said it today.

00:06:32.580 I'm sorry.

00:06:33.220 What does Robin know about me moving? 0.94

00:06:36.000 Here's what I've realized about moms. 0.99

00:06:38.340 They tend to know everything.

00:06:40.240 If you just listen to your mom, yo, I'm being honest out there.

00:06:43.400 If you're watching this, if you simply listen to your mom, they are right roughly between

00:06:47.520 99.9% and 100% of the time.

00:06:50.240 They're moms, bro.

00:06:51.420 And she was like, oh, I'm sure he loves it.

00:06:52.960 It's a beach community with golf, a lazy river.

00:06:55.360 Give her the action. 1.00

00:06:55.760 Great place to go for one month.

00:06:59.160 Great place to go for one month, but he's going to get bored.

00:07:01.500 He's going to miss the people.

00:07:02.760 He's going to miss all the happenings in LA.

00:07:05.480 He's going to get, I'm telling you.

00:07:06.420 i'll never get to ask you ever again what's happening yeah you can it won't matter

00:07:12.660 nothing down there you're gonna be partying with my replacement jake paul

00:07:16.600 how fast is no i mean that a great way i mean like run between three and four miles an hour

00:07:21.080 how fast is mike in puerto rico under over six months oh mike's not coming no that's not

00:07:27.900 this dude loves his clout if he loves that because that dinner and catch oh my god because

00:07:35.020 Because for me, it's monetizable.

00:07:36.780 That's why.

00:07:37.920 And if it monetizes the way that it looks like it will over the next 12 to 18 months,

00:07:41.880 I surely can see you post $50 million exit once we move something out here.

00:07:46.460 I'll go down with that money. 0.99

00:07:48.120 I just can't go down now until I make the fucking exit. 0.99

00:07:51.100 That's fair. 1.00

00:07:51.660 Jeff, you got a baby and you got your second baby.

00:07:55.500 Me.

00:07:56.640 You were the first, actually.

00:07:57.820 What else do you need?

00:07:58.560 You're the first baby.

00:07:59.140 What else do you need?

00:08:00.420 You're seven years old.

00:08:01.480 You're like a young adult now.

00:08:03.300 She's eight months old.

00:08:04.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:05.020 George is here by the way

00:08:06.820 We'll swap them both out

00:08:07.760 Bring the guests and bring George in

00:08:09.320 George, how about you come on the podcast

00:08:11.300 Jeff, appreciate you feeling

00:08:13.740 By the way, for anybody watching, me and Jeff are starting a podcast

00:08:16.340 He's not going to Puerto Rico

00:08:17.400 It'll be released in the next month or so 0.99

00:08:19.200 Nice ass slap there 1.00

00:08:21.020 Is that true? 0.98

00:08:22.260 We're starting a business podcast

00:08:23.460 Are you going to Puerto Rico or no?

00:08:24.940 He is

00:08:26.160 Why did you guys put that in the powerpoint? 0.96

00:08:29.080 I'd have fucking left for Jeff 0.90

00:08:30.560 I can't wait to show this powerpoint 0.98

00:08:32.560 Guys, we got a guest

00:08:33.580 It is a guest based podcast

00:08:35.620 Our guest today is making her second 1.00

00:08:38.400 Appearance on Impulsive 1.00

00:08:39.620 She's the queen of crypto

00:08:40.980 A world renowned DJ, a practitioner of the mystic arts 1.00

00:08:43.860 And one half of a Hollywood it couple 1.00

00:08:45.800 She's a badass cool chick 1.00

00:08:47.180 It's Chantal Jeffries

00:08:48.440 My hands are so clammy

00:08:52.780 I gave her a high five

00:08:53.600 DJ the DJ 1.00

00:08:55.580 The female Kygo some say

00:08:57.040 Have you heard that before? 0.69

00:08:59.240 No, I have not

00:09:00.780 We have

00:09:02.280 oh really yeah oh wow what's going on doing over there i'm good how are you guys good yeah pretty

00:09:09.240 dude a long-term friend one of the first people that i met in the scene all the way back to park 0.54

00:09:14.980 city utah do you remember that fucking trip yes yes actually it just got back from aspen too so 0.79

00:09:19.720 i haven't gotten much better at skiing at all so i remember you struggling immensely and no 0.94

00:09:26.280 improvement yeah not not too much to change but not but i met her and i remember i had these like

00:09:31.340 you know preconceived notions when i went into it stuff i'd heard on the internet whatever

00:09:35.280 and i just remember sitting in the theater of this 30 million dollar house atop deer valley

00:09:40.280 having her randomly and passionately explain to me the history behind ac and dc battery currents

00:09:47.400 and and and not like oh i know these random facts like truly passionate about the subjects this girl

00:09:53.360 honestly is a curious person is that a good way to describe you yeah for sure i definitely like

00:09:59.260 love to learn things it's like my favorite I feel like I'm a student of life but we all are I just

00:10:03.920 I just get really excited by it I just feel like you uh surprise people when you come slinging your

00:10:09.400 knowledge about Tesla and Bitcoin and and and these like new industries that you are surprisingly

00:10:16.400 again extremely well versed in even this started with uh or you coming on this podcast started with

00:10:22.960 the text from you the other day that you sent me oh yeah she goes she goes she goes do you remember

00:10:29.860 when i convinced you to invest 500 000 in bitcoin back in 2017 that was her three years ago because

00:10:37.620 i thought about it i'm like wow we're about to 50k i'm like wow that it's gonna be looking like

00:10:41.720 a lot these days i wonder if he sold yeah yeah a lot of money a lot of money i said yeah i do 0.84

00:10:46.540 remember that you know what's worse i didn't do it didn't fucking do it she was hitting you up on 0.82

00:10:52.720 some like congratulations we're rich we're rich and you're like i'm not but you did get in you 0.93

00:10:59.000 were an early adopter on that on more so on doge you were in a doge at 0.008 i believe so an eighth

00:11:05.260 of a penny how did you know well it's so funny because i well i'm a big elon musk fan as we all

00:11:11.300 know but like i honestly just had seen a meme so there's this there's this meme and it was like you

00:11:15.660 know the drake from hotline bling when he's like and then he's like going like that so it was that

00:11:21.000 but it was elon's face and it was being like bitcoin it was like bitcoin and then it was like

00:11:24.720 dogecoin and then i thought it was funny i posted on twitter and then i like had bought a bunch

00:11:29.680 and then the next day this uh after i posted it elon had like tweeted about dogecoins it started

00:11:35.320 going up so crazy and i was like oh my god i literally posted that yesterday how much did

00:11:39.460 you put in dogecoin can you say i won't say this on the on the internet i mean yeah i don't know

00:11:45.620 can you buy a lamborghini with your capital gains i'm not i'm not trying to give away my

00:11:52.520 i know he's like i'm like overall you did well going maybe not but overall yes are you trying

00:12:01.460 to take those earnings to puerto rico well it's so funny because i was talking about going to

00:12:05.240 austin because i i was like oh i'm gonna look at places and or like property in austin because i

00:12:09.240 really want to build and i feel like it's so much easier with all the restrictions and stuff in

00:12:12.700 california it's just so hard like if you want to build your on like your own kind of like compound

00:12:16.840 or any sort of project it's just a pain in the ass to get the permits and all this stuff are you

00:12:22.140 still living with the the girls no i actually just bought a house and so i yeah i've been doing that 0.67

00:12:28.380 and it's just it's such a fun process to be able to like get a place you really like and change

00:12:32.860 things over time and just see i i got it at like the perfect time i feel like just with the market

00:12:37.480 and now that i'm seeing everything i'm seeing on the market is just way more for like a comparable

00:12:42.660 place. And I'm like, Oh, that's nice. So you got it. You got it at the right time in the market.

00:12:45.880 Simple, similar to Dogecoin and Bitcoin. How do you keep finding yourselves in these early

00:12:51.700 adoption and entry points is, are you actively looking for new markets or for the right timing?

00:12:57.760 Or do you find yourself being one of those people who happens to be in the right place at the right

00:13:01.180 time in life? Are you a believer in that kind of energy? I definitely think it's a combination of

00:13:06.060 both. I listened to my intuition for sure. And I'm super in tune with that, but I try to take

00:13:11.320 in as much information as possible to make the best decisions like you need data to be able to

00:13:15.880 see the bigger picture and decide what you're going to do so i like to like look at things

00:13:19.960 and track them over time and try to take in as much information as i can like whether it's on

00:13:24.660 reddit or going on clubhouse and like going on twitter and just seeing you know watching youtube

00:13:28.500 videos keeping up to date with everything going on in whatever market it is you know was there

00:13:33.880 enough data for you to invest in gamestop oh when it was going to the moon oh i got into

00:13:39.640 GameStop had the perfect time, too.

00:13:41.320 I was like, I literally, I can show you guys.

00:13:44.940 But it was so funny because I was like, I was kind of like seeing about it online, but not like anything too crazy.

00:13:52.580 And I posted on Snapchat, there's like this new feature that came out called Spotlight, where you can post and you can like win money, whatever.

00:13:59.460 So I had posted on there about GameStop, and it became like a popular video on the Spotlight on Snapchat.

00:14:06.700 and like I had said like oh did you like are you guys gonna invest like I put money in and then

00:14:12.560 and then the next day Elon Musk tweeted the wall okay so clearly you and Elon Musk are in cahoots

00:14:18.200 is what you're describing you're responsible for the pump it dubs taking place when did you become

00:14:22.080 friends with Elon that's what I want to know I literally like I'll just like I feel like this

00:14:26.360 is gonna happen and then I'll just be like okay do you think you're inspiring Elon is there a

00:14:30.320 chance he's an avid follower of CJ the DJ I'm like I think a lot of people have the same kind

00:14:36.240 of Trina at a certain time.

00:14:37.820 When did you get into GameStop?

00:14:39.620 It was literally like,

00:14:41.160 I think the day before

00:14:42.160 Elan tweeted the Wall Street bets

00:14:43.400 or like two days before.

00:14:44.420 Two or three.

00:14:44.880 Actually, you know,

00:14:45.520 it might have been like two

00:14:46.300 or three days before.

00:14:46.640 I lost $40,000 investing in GameStop.

00:14:48.440 Yeah, I was going to say,

00:14:49.120 did you get out?

00:14:49.940 Yeah, I got out at like 370.

00:14:52.020 I got out at like 376.

00:14:53.560 I got in at like 80.

00:14:55.080 She knows when to go to the party

00:14:57.120 and when to leave.

00:14:57.960 When to hold it and when to fold it.

00:14:59.160 Unbelievable.

00:14:59.360 Because I'm like,

00:15:00.140 if I'm there, then it's fun.

00:15:01.180 If not, I don't think it's so fun anymore.

00:15:02.340 You lost me $2.5 million.

00:15:03.560 dollars because of your exit because i didn't because i didn't invest in bitcoin like just

00:15:09.360 hit me up how did i lose you i'm like i literally tried to because you didn't you didn't push hard

00:15:14.280 no i literally remember you're being like my business manager they're like telling me not to

00:15:18.840 do and i was like suit yourself i was like i put i put my money in so like and you know what the

00:15:23.280 craziest part was i had forgotten and then i was like oh you know because i had like got a new phone

00:15:30.080 and I never downloaded the apps I had on my old phone,

00:15:32.680 but I still had my old phone.

00:15:34.460 So then I was like, oh, wait, whenever it went up to 40,

00:15:36.680 I was like, oh, let me try to log in.

00:15:38.400 And then I opened it and I didn't know,

00:15:40.260 I hadn't really remembered what I bought it at specifically

00:15:42.640 or how much and I was like, well, okay.

00:15:44.720 I was like, oh, wow.

00:15:45.700 I think a new house is on the horizon.

00:15:48.640 Jake, you're lucky you remembered your password.

00:15:51.300 My brother Jake invested in Bitcoin.

00:15:53.920 His first ever Vine check, he invested in Bitcoin

00:15:56.920 when it was at, I think, like $100.

00:15:58.800 i'm talking like stage one bitcoin oh my gosh i think it probably amounted to like

00:16:04.840 150 to 200 000 today but he forgot his password i talked to somebody you know there's billions

00:16:10.140 of dollars float of bitcoin oh yeah oh yeah yeah these people forgot their passwords hey that

00:16:15.620 would be me which makes it worth more yeah and you get and you get 10 you get 10 tries right

00:16:20.980 to get back in i think it depends what platform you traded on you're using where it's held i'm

00:16:25.760 sure you have cold storage i have like a few different places that i keep it and like um i'm

00:16:31.680 i'm so scared of all these stories that i hear like online then you read about these people that

00:16:36.180 literally have like millions and millions of dollars if not billions and you're just like

00:16:40.000 that is so scary you call yourself a student of the earth is that what you described it as earlier

00:16:46.060 of law student of life either either way right yeah um we hear that a lot in la but from a lot

00:16:53.600 of girls right oh yeah i'm a student of life you know yeah i've never heard that and there's this

00:16:57.600 song from father john misty i love what a great song i know the night john the night josh tillman

00:17:03.180 came to our apartment is the name of the song and he says uh and now every insufferable convo

00:17:07.520 features her patiently explaining the cosmos because there's a lot of girls there's a lot 0.99

00:17:11.620 of girls like that but you actually do care about this shit have you always been like that have you 0.92

00:17:17.840 always been like passionately interested what made you so interested in the dc versus ac current 0.99

00:17:23.560 conversation and why tesla was so important well i i think that these things are really intriguing

00:17:29.180 so once you discover a certain subject that resonates with you you are going to just want

00:17:33.280 to talk about all the time and you're going to be you know involved in it and want to use your

00:17:36.980 free time to explore it more and more i think that just like some people from a younger age

00:17:42.240 kind of just were either kind of pushed towards that more or weren't given as many other options

00:17:48.060 of things to do so then they kind of steered towards reading and being interested in stuff

00:17:53.060 like that i think for me i always just i that was just like what i like to do in my spare time and

00:17:59.060 probably just because i always felt like i could understand it and make progress in it quickly and

00:18:03.960 when you do anything when you see you're good at it then you're you get more in court encouraged

00:18:08.500 to do it more often because you can see the concrete results exponentially incentivize yeah

00:18:13.560 exponentially and compound the growth there so it's um i just feel like i genuinely get dopamine

00:18:20.340 from learning new things i always have i just like think you can understand life better and

00:18:24.860 other subjects if you learn about things and they kind of like crossover so yeah what was your

00:18:31.660 childhood like i was just gonna ask were you a cool kid yeah oh no i was like super school focused

00:18:37.820 and education focused but it was also because i moved a lot i didn't really like i moved to a new

00:18:42.100 school and i wouldn't really have friends at first so i would just like go to school and all you can

00:18:46.300 really do is just like read your homework and stuff like what are you gonna do if you don't

00:18:51.260 really know anyone right so that you can just like hang out by yourself or like me and my sister

00:18:55.300 would always hang out but like my mom had these rules growing up where it was like if you watch

00:18:59.480 one hour of tv you have to read for one hour love that so like growing up i i spend a lot of time

00:19:04.560 just like reading because i kind of like had to if i wanted to watch like i would save up my tv

00:19:09.300 time by reading so i just started reading more and more so i could have as much tv time as i

00:19:12.760 wanted for every hour that i watch tv my dad would lock me out of the house for an hour

00:19:18.300 that's crazy i think we talked about this last time because i remember you telling me

00:19:22.740 i was dyslexic so an hour of tv was like a like a page in a book

00:19:26.820 the dog went to the park all right george it doesn't george that doesn't say dog it says god

00:19:37.360 you're reading the bible oh oh the god that's great i mean it's you know i got catfished by

00:19:47.020 you we talked about yes i'm like okay i was literally gonna bring that up because i was like

00:19:50.620 and it wasn't in like a like a dating way i was really young i was like 13 and we we talked about

00:19:56.400 this when we were yeah because you know i think it's really interesting to think like people

00:20:00.160 like a catfish because you know like sometimes they think that they know you and they meet you

00:20:05.880 in real life like what we're about to talk about and you've never actually met them so that's you

00:20:10.440 know something that happens commonly that's like a reverse catfish scenario like you meet the actual

00:20:15.920 person oh yeah thinking that you met them before no listen to this so yeah you tell us this is 0.92

00:20:21.440 real shit i'm on facebook all right minding my own business and i get a friend request and i was 0.99

00:20:27.560 like oh she's cute right click yes she's like hey blah blah and it starts out normal as fuck like 0.99

00:20:33.940 super normal just talking all right blah blah a week later yeah man i'm having problems at home 0.98

00:20:40.180 and i'm like oh i was like oh shit like are you good are you safe she's like yeah no i'm safe 0.80

00:20:46.440 you know like blah blah blah my dad and this is that so it gets deep bro so i'm like now i'm not 0.96

00:20:50.800 even investing in dating this girl i'm investing in like her protection or safety like all that 0.98

00:20:54.580 shit so i'm like fuck i got all my neighborhood friends like yo look at this first of all look 0.99

00:20:58.380 at this girl she added me i didn't add they're like damn good for you to adapt each other up 1.00

00:21:03.000 we had a soda pop 0.64

00:21:04.260 we celebrated

00:21:04.880 we went right back

00:21:05.680 to the drama

00:21:06.060 so then everybody

00:21:07.280 was like 1.00

00:21:07.700 oh shit 1.00

00:21:08.060 like fucking 1.00

00:21:09.320 ditch her bro 1.00

00:21:10.160 she's like 1.00

00:21:10.740 trouble 1.00

00:21:11.160 she's trouble

00:21:11.920 and I was like

00:21:12.400 no I'm not gonna do that

00:21:13.300 no I'm not gonna do that

00:21:14.840 she needs me 1.00

00:21:16.240 and she's hot

00:21:17.180 George was captain

00:21:19.320 George was captain 1.00

00:21:20.120 save a hoe 1.00

00:21:20.840 that was George 1.00

00:21:21.820 straight up

00:21:23.020 so I was like

00:21:24.200 you know

00:21:24.520 helping someone in need

00:21:26.180 is not a captain 1.00

00:21:27.180 save a hoe 1.00

00:21:27.720 he has a good heart 1.00

00:21:28.880 unlike maybe

00:21:30.700 some people

00:21:31.160 So I'm sitting there, I'm doing, I'm messaging back, blah, blah, blah, this and that, and 1.00

00:21:36.960 this is how I knew I was stupid. 0.99

00:21:39.180 Are you ready for this? 1.00

00:21:40.160 This is how I knew I was stupid. 1.00

00:21:40.980 This is how I knew I was stupid. 1.00

00:21:41.760 I did it. 0.99

00:21:42.480 By the way, catfishing back in the day wasn't a thing. 0.97

00:21:45.000 Like, you weren't fucking pretending to be something. 0.99

00:21:47.240 That was fucking weird. 0.98

00:21:48.440 First of all, it was a thing, and there was this whole entire MTV series about it. 0.99

00:21:52.460 No, no, no.

00:21:52.760 This was before that.

00:21:53.760 Before this.

00:21:54.440 Wait, wait, wait. 1.00

00:21:55.700 What the fuck? 1.00

00:21:56.160 I thought I was like 19. 1.00

00:21:57.440 You're like, oh, yeah, I get it. 0.99

00:21:59.220 No, I was young as fuck. 0.98

00:22:00.660 So wait, how long before we met was this? 0.99

00:22:03.900 Because-

00:22:04.220 I'm talking freshman year of my high school.

00:22:06.180 Wow.

00:22:06.440 So these people must have gone in my photo.

00:22:08.900 Like, no one knew who I was.

00:22:10.360 Like, I'm thinking like, oh, it's like once you, you know, you start getting followers

00:22:13.480 on the internet, people steal your pictures.

00:22:15.220 Like, even usually if you have like 30K or something.

00:22:17.640 They were an early adopter in Chantel stock.

00:22:20.220 Like, they knew you were going to blow up.

00:22:21.920 Okay, gotcha.

00:22:22.540 Wow.

00:22:22.580 And they hit the right entry point.

00:22:23.980 All right.

00:22:24.480 So then a few years later, all my friends from the neighborhood, they text me like, 1.00

00:22:27.600 hey, hey, that bitch is on the news. 1.00

00:22:31.480 I was like, what? 1.00

00:22:32.960 So I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:22:34.260 So I opened the news. 1.00

00:22:35.280 It's like, Justin Bieber is driving really fast cars with this girl. 1.00

00:22:38.280 I was like, that bitch moved up in life. 1.00

00:22:41.040 I was like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:22:42.940 I was like, this is fucking great. 1.00

00:22:44.680 She got out of her fucked up house. 1.00

00:22:45.940 City situation. 1.00

00:22:47.180 JB, let's go.

00:22:49.000 I opened up my Facebook. 1.00

00:22:50.600 I fucking tried to find this bitch. 1.00

00:22:52.680 Gone, dog. 1.00

00:22:54.220 So then years go by, years go by.

00:22:56.780 And I'm like, you know what?

00:22:57.800 I don't think that's her, man.

00:23:00.140 Because I'm adding the life story she told me.

00:23:02.480 And then I kind of researched you.

00:23:03.840 And I was like, this just doesn't add up.

00:23:05.700 And then that's when that show Catfish came out.

00:23:07.980 And I was like, oh.

00:23:10.380 So five, six years later, you hit me up.

00:23:12.300 Like, you're going still voting.

00:23:13.460 I go, oh, bet.

00:23:14.520 He goes, oh, by the way, Shanta.

00:23:17.780 Immediately, I was like, oh.

00:23:19.680 I was like, OK, do I tell her?

00:23:21.120 Do I not tell her?

00:23:21.540 Oh, yeah.

00:23:21.900 Well, the first thing he comes up, hey.

00:23:24.020 So like, yeah, I got catfish.

00:23:25.180 wait so y'all met on that trip too yeah that that trip was a catalyst for a lot on that trip

00:23:34.620 we met they met that was the first time me and you ever proper hung out

00:23:38.860 shout out sean you know what's actually really crazy is i also met like one of my best friends

00:23:44.220 jocelyn on that trip because whenever you guys ditched me and i didn't know how to ski and i

00:23:48.160 went by myself and i'm going towards the ski lift and then i literally like have no clue what a ski

00:23:53.020 lift even is I'm like someone goes do you know what you're doing and like full mass can't see

00:23:57.340 them I'm like this no they're like oh come with us I'm like okay I just get on the ski lift have

00:24:02.480 no idea who that was yeah and then oh my god do you remember that oh my god I remember when you

00:24:09.340 went away from us and met up with her and yeah but that's why I met her because I didn't know

00:24:13.260 how to ski and Alyssa was on the trip and Alyssa Violet was there that trip was a oh yeah that's

00:24:18.540 bunk beds and shit oh my god the altitude that see i i had never skied so much that i had never 0.88

00:24:23.660 i didn't know about altitude poisoning or like getting too drunk snowboard to know about altitude 0.99

00:24:28.600 did you get uh dizzy or like you're smart but no no you don't usually go up i'm saying i'm saying

00:24:33.140 no no i'm saying about the altitude and alcohol because oh you should you miss the alcohol part 0.96

00:24:38.520 people just at home be like this bitch didn't know about see see no no no but i'm like we all 0.96

00:24:45.480 went out and then we're like 1.00

00:24:47.320 wait you get really drunk

00:24:49.620 after like two drinks here

00:24:50.960 and Alyssa she

00:24:52.900 literally couldn't even walk so we're trying

00:24:55.460 to carry her out but like the whole entire

00:24:57.620 parking lot is frozen so we're

00:24:59.500 like slipping and sliding and the whole thing

00:25:01.740 and then that's why actually I didn't make it

00:25:03.600 to the mountain because I was so hungover

00:25:05.120 that I didn't wake up and I'm like

00:25:07.920 that was the first

00:25:08.800 time I met Jake Paul as

00:25:11.660 well that was the first time I met him

00:25:13.480 and I walked in and I was like well Logan

00:25:15.420 a nice really nice kid i walked in and i was like hey jake paul good to meet you and he was like 0.99

00:25:20.520 do you even ski these mountains man i was like oh damn these motherfuckers are way different bro 0.98

00:25:27.620 he's like why don't you do me a favor and he had like platinum teeth he's like why don't you get 0.99

00:25:32.100 the fuck out my house and i was like no problem man i just was curious if you wanted to love sack 0.98

00:25:36.980 i'll just see myself i remember that i remember you guys fucking ditched me too huh this is a 1.00

00:25:41.940 true story i didn't know what the fuck a blue diamond a black diamond oh my god double black 0.99

00:25:46.360 and i was like i don't wear two blacks i was like that seems about nice bro i'm sliding down i got 0.96

00:25:51.020 off my board and i sat on it and i had to go like this with my hands he's just like dude nobody was 0.98

00:25:56.220 there nobody i was like where the fuck are all the kids and shit you gotta follow the kids that's 0.98

00:26:02.120 what you gotta because first of all they're really cute to look at while they're skiing 0.99

00:26:04.660 that's illegal we can't we can't you she could probably get away she could probably get away

00:26:09.140 When they're this big and they don't have the ski poles 1.00

00:26:11.680 and they just go like,

00:26:12.500 and they have no control over where they're going.

00:26:14.120 They're just like, pizza, french fry.

00:26:15.480 And they're like, do a pizza.

00:26:17.020 And they're just like, fly off the side.

00:26:18.220 You DM'd him.

00:26:19.660 He DM'd you when you posted that video.

00:26:21.740 There's this video.

00:26:23.060 It's like the theme of our trip.

00:26:24.200 You gotta post it.

00:26:25.400 Do a pizza.

00:26:26.940 I feel like we pulled this up last Chantel podcast.

00:26:30.260 I feel like we did.

00:26:30.920 It's the best video ever.

00:26:32.000 It's the same podcast just again.

00:26:32.900 It's the best video ever.

00:26:34.600 When you showed me that,

00:26:35.540 I swear to you on everything I love,

00:26:36.980 I've showed at least 500 people.

00:26:38.800 No, that is one of the best viral videos ever.

00:26:40.720 I yell at the kid from the ski line.

00:26:41.980 I'm like, do a pizza.

00:26:42.820 Do a pizza.

00:26:44.360 Pizza.

00:26:45.160 Pizza.

00:26:47.260 Pizza.

00:26:50.360 Pizza.

00:26:53.520 Pizza.

00:26:55.500 Pizza.

00:26:56.280 Oh, this poor kid.

00:26:57.500 He's pushing 90 miles an hour.

00:26:59.780 Oh, my God.

00:27:00.640 Yard sale.

00:27:01.260 Yard sale. 0.99

00:27:02.020 Fucked up. 0.98

00:27:02.820 Yard sale. 1.00

00:27:03.820 No earnings, bro.

00:27:05.200 Hot dog water. 1.00

00:27:06.220 Just straight up fucking dog water 0.99

00:27:08.980 You got a pizza dude 1.00

00:27:10.320 Oh no

00:27:12.300 He was going towards the woods

00:27:15.340 Bro he was going to another galaxy

00:27:17.960 He was approaching light speed

00:27:19.340 Yeah yeah yeah

00:27:21.160 He was definitely at some g-force 0.94

00:27:22.880 Damn that trip 0.97

00:27:25.300 What if we ran that same trip back 0.99

00:27:27.400 With the same people

00:27:29.020 Okay question for you

00:27:32.200 Hey man

00:27:33.320 I don't know if we could do that

00:27:35.000 Could that happen?

00:27:37.800 Me and Logan just had a huge flashback.

00:27:40.400 Nope, that can't happen.

00:27:42.100 I still have some sus-ass videos of that trip.

00:27:44.540 Dude, get rid of those.

00:27:45.720 Yeah, you gotta delete those.

00:27:46.820 We made an oath to delete those videos.

00:27:49.460 Like bananas being thrown at me.

00:27:51.440 Stop it.

00:27:51.860 No problem.

00:27:52.600 No problem.

00:27:53.460 You guys are supposed to delete those videos.

00:27:55.100 Yeah, yeah, they're gone.

00:27:55.880 I deleted it.

00:27:56.620 They're gone. 1.00

00:27:57.300 You bitch. 1.00

00:27:58.220 You're that guy. 1.00

00:27:59.200 I'm not.

00:28:00.780 You're gonna be in Puerto Rico saving all that money

00:28:02.400 and he's gonna be like,

00:28:02.920 hey, remember that video?

00:28:03.540 He's going to be like, yo, give me all that crypto in here.

00:28:05.940 $10,000 in Bitcoin or I'll release the banana dick video. 0.95

00:28:10.280 Hey, Mike, this is a FaceTime. 0.98

00:28:11.520 I can see your face.

00:28:13.260 We've changed.

00:28:14.340 We've changed.

00:28:15.060 All of us sitting at this table.

00:28:16.720 We're reformed.

00:28:17.660 We're evolved.

00:28:18.700 We're new people.

00:28:20.080 Yeah, we hide it better.

00:28:21.620 Yeah, maybe.

00:28:22.140 No.

00:28:22.500 No, we are.

00:28:23.260 We're different.

00:28:23.760 No, we're new people.

00:28:25.640 What priority in your life when compared to crypto, when compared to music, when compared

00:28:30.540 to all the things you do is love?

00:28:32.600 is a long-term partner?

00:28:34.660 Oh, great question.

00:28:35.500 I mean, I think it just depends on the situation.

00:28:37.740 I think, like, it's really important to balance your time

00:28:40.060 and make sure that you give enough attention

00:28:42.820 to, like, all the things that you're working towards.

00:28:45.480 And so I definitely try to do that.

00:28:47.480 I think, like, I don't know.

00:28:49.940 There's so many things going on.

00:28:51.200 And, like, also what's really interesting is seeing,

00:28:54.200 you know, now that we've been in quarantine for so long

00:28:57.080 and going back into the real world, like, traveling

00:28:59.020 and, like, how your time's going to look different now

00:29:01.960 because before it's like you can stay inside and do like i can go online all day and get info and

00:29:06.440 like do trading and and like just do research and whatever but it's like once i can travel and go

00:29:11.300 outside and do stuff like am i going to be able to do that as much how's that going to look and

00:29:16.540 i mean just like seeing how life in general is going to be shifting because i don't think i'm

00:29:20.700 necessarily go back to like the full caliber of like traveling and going out and doing stuff as

00:29:25.840 much as i did before like sending it just because like i honestly have created so many hobbies and

00:29:30.980 routines in my house and like oh you got hobbies oh yeah what kind of hobbies learning is obviously

00:29:37.120 well yeah do epoxy well i'm actually i just started doing ceramics which i'm really excited

00:29:42.040 about but like i was doing like sewing during quarantine a lot of cooking gardening oh you're

00:29:46.820 gonna be a sick grandmother yeah probably she already has a sweater for it but also like

00:29:52.640 balls you consume a lot of you love rick and morty yes which are we getting another yeah are we 0.98

00:29:58.280 We're getting another season.

00:29:59.240 Aren't they getting canceled for what that created?

00:30:00.980 Listen, that wasn't the best.

00:30:03.260 It wasn't the best.

00:30:04.220 Let's not give more attention to it.

00:30:05.640 Please. 0.99

00:30:06.020 I need a fucking other season. 0.99

00:30:07.500 I love the season. 0.99

00:30:08.360 But besides that situation that he did, which is gross.

00:30:13.480 But the last season, I didn't even finish watching.

00:30:16.740 It was a four, right? 1.00

00:30:17.660 It was ass. 1.00

00:30:18.280 It was not good. 1.00

00:30:18.940 It was pretty ass. 0.99

00:30:19.980 Chantel, please. 1.00

00:30:20.680 Oh, jeez, Rick.

00:30:21.760 We got no more ideas for episodes.

00:30:23.700 Oh, my God.

00:30:25.160 That was actually really good.

00:30:26.860 Since when?

00:30:27.160 George, what? Since when?

00:30:29.280 I don't know. I just kind of threw it out there. More.

00:30:31.160 Okay. What do you want me to say?

00:30:33.380 Anything. Oh, geez, man.

00:30:35.400 Guys, I don't really think this is her online.

00:30:37.400 Oh, geez. Oh, call Rick.

00:30:39.420 What? Hey, Rick, is this really

00:30:41.000 Chantel or I just saw her with Justin

00:30:42.960 Bieber, man? Oh, geez.

00:30:48.180 Yo, that was also a bit shaggy from Scooby-Doo.

00:30:51.000 Yeah, a little bit. Okay. Great.

00:30:52.980 Way to go. Good. You can't do Rick, can you?

00:30:55.880 Nah, I don't think I could.

00:30:57.160 Verp Morty

00:30:58.500 That's all I got

00:30:59.120 Yeah right right

00:30:59.940 Do you watch any other

00:31:01.000 Cartoons

00:31:01.900 Anime to anime

00:31:03.140 Yes I love anime

00:31:04.840 Do you watch One Punch Man

00:31:05.740 Dragon Ball Z

00:31:05.880 I haven't

00:31:07.080 You haven't watched One Punch Man

00:31:08.360 I have to check it out

00:31:09.700 Have you watched it yet

00:31:10.960 Dragon Ball Z

00:31:11.320 But I like 0.99

00:31:12.180 Dragon Ball Z is the shit 0.99

00:31:13.820 Well you need to watch 1.00

00:31:14.540 One Punch Man

00:31:15.140 I did I tried

00:31:16.020 I tried I tried

00:31:16.680 What

00:31:17.080 I watched the first episode

00:31:18.100 You're lying 1.00

00:31:18.600 And the fucking thing 1.00

00:31:19.340 Was from here 0.99

00:31:20.200 To the universe

00:31:21.460 And the guy's like 0.99

00:31:22.200 And the guy fucking vanished 0.99

00:31:24.380 He's One Punch Man 1.00

00:31:26.540 That's kind of like the punchline.

00:31:29.720 That's the name of the show.

00:31:32.280 That's his thing. 0.99

00:31:33.280 But what the fuck is he going to... 0.99

00:31:34.540 What's the issue here? 0.99

00:31:37.020 You're wondering where the conflict is.

00:31:38.760 Is the conflict within yourself?

00:31:40.580 No.

00:31:41.160 They do an amazing job of creating a full spectrum of characters

00:31:48.460 that they build around One Punch Man.

00:31:50.500 And his conflict is that since he can beat anyone with one punch,

00:31:54.780 he gets bored.

00:31:55.720 and he's like severely depressed.

00:31:57.180 It's like Chuck Norris vibes.

00:31:58.140 Almost.

00:31:58.760 Like he's literally like the best superhero ever.

00:32:01.140 Like one punch, that's it.

00:32:02.700 For almost everyone.

00:32:03.960 And then sometimes, you know,

00:32:05.520 he meets a worthy opponent.

00:32:08.000 It takes two punch?

00:32:09.540 Sometimes more.

00:32:10.800 But it's a really, really good, good series.

00:32:13.860 It's a great series.

00:32:14.560 I watched all of it in like a week.

00:32:16.040 What do you mean?

00:32:16.580 Dragon Ball Z is just so good.

00:32:17.740 Standing by for the third season.

00:32:19.300 For everyone who watches One Punch, man.

00:32:22.340 You know, you know.

00:32:23.500 Remember when Johanna's dressed up as him?

00:32:25.420 Yeah. 0.53

00:32:25.720 Johannes looks exactly like One Punch Man. 0.79

00:32:28.340 What else?

00:32:28.760 What else are you watching?

00:32:31.440 Cartoons or not?

00:32:32.900 Anything, anything.

00:32:33.560 Let's talk about one of the greatest animated movies, Soul.

00:32:37.800 It's great.

00:32:38.420 Did you see it?

00:32:39.220 It's great.

00:32:39.760 Saw it twice.

00:32:40.480 That was the reason I invested in Disney stock.

00:32:42.960 I was like, well, I'm going to put my money here because they're streaming.

00:32:46.640 I mean, this is great.

00:32:47.600 And surprisingly, you made money on that trade, didn't you, Shantown?

00:32:51.220 Yeah, well, I did.

00:32:53.020 Unrealized gains, yes, yes.

00:32:54.820 Unrealized gains.

00:32:55.720 i'm watching a new timothy leary documentary right now about the girl who dated timothy leary as he

00:33:02.380 when he was called oh so you're not actually watching it i'll pull that up for you um i am

00:33:09.360 my psychedelic love story timothy leary on the run yep and it's all about uh his uh love saga

00:33:17.120 with his 1970s socialite and he she was traveling around the world with him as he was on the run

00:33:22.500 from the U.S. federal government.

00:33:25.100 He was hiding in Afghanistan.

00:33:26.300 Afghanistan ended up actually giving him back

00:33:27.980 to the U.S., I believe.

00:33:29.420 Timothy Leary was an American psychologist

00:33:30.940 and a writer known for a strong advocacy

00:33:32.580 of psychedelic drugs.

00:33:34.260 Acid.

00:33:35.020 Evaluations of Leary are polarized,

00:33:36.560 ranging from bold oracle to publicity hound.

00:33:39.020 You know about him?

00:33:39.860 I do, but I didn't know about

00:33:41.100 the Socialite new documentary.

00:33:43.720 I know about the other one, but not this one.

00:33:45.700 How much acid are you doing these days?

00:33:48.300 I haven't seen any acid in quite some time.

00:33:52.260 You actually have dabbled in acid?

00:33:55.520 Well, I mean, George, who hasn't?

00:33:58.280 Me.

00:33:58.900 You're the only person on the set, so how does it feel to be the minority, brother? 0.99

00:34:01.340 Don't look at me and go, oh, that's fucking... 0.97

00:34:03.740 You can't call a minority a minority. 1.00

00:34:06.160 Yeah, I'm brown.

00:34:07.320 Mike, you just jumped into the box of racism.

00:34:10.060 I'm going to let you stand there for a couple seconds.

00:34:11.920 Look at the genuine concern on my face. 1.00

00:34:14.120 You're the fucking minority here, George. 1.00

00:34:16.520 My ranch that I bought was Tim Leary's ranch. 1.00

00:34:21.500 Oh, wow.

00:34:22.440 Oh, my God.

00:34:23.660 I think you actually said that to me, but I didn't register it.

00:34:26.780 A hundred million tabs of acid.

00:34:28.780 A hundred million tabs of acid produced at the ranch.

00:34:31.820 Wait, so wait.

00:34:32.320 That was a documentary.

00:34:34.780 That was from your ranch.

00:34:36.480 A portion of his life was spent there, yeah.

00:34:38.940 No, with the tabs of acid.

00:34:40.720 Lots of acid.

00:34:42.140 It got federally raided, dude. 0.89

00:34:43.740 They arrested seven hippies.

00:34:45.160 In the hippie mafia, they're called.

00:34:46.340 The Brotherhood of Eternal Love.

00:34:47.420 Yes, and they went to Grateful Dead on their parties.

00:34:50.060 Oh, yeah.

00:34:50.360 He owns that ranch.

00:34:51.920 Like, can you imagine?

00:34:53.460 Oh, so I didn't know that.

00:34:55.220 Excuse me?

00:34:56.280 Yeah.

00:34:56.560 Has anyone told me that?

00:34:57.340 Can you?

00:34:57.720 Well, listen, can you imagine being this, this Timothy Leary, Grateful Dead fan, the culture,

00:35:04.720 all of the history tied up in the brotherhood in that house? 0.99

00:35:09.820 And then Logan Paul coming and buying that fucking rent. 0.99

00:35:14.380 Like, bro, who do you want to own a property? 1.00

00:35:19.040 shot. It's like one punch

00:35:21.260 man showing up.

00:35:23.040 Who's touching me?

00:35:24.780 I love it. I'm hurting my feelings.

00:35:27.760 Just there in the middle of the desert

00:35:29.040 they're watching and they're like, hey, what's up, little gang?

00:35:32.340 He's doing acid.

00:35:33.680 We know what this looks like.

00:35:35.300 He's doing acid. I feel like they want

00:35:37.180 me to do acid and lose my mind, but I'm not

00:35:39.080 gonna. They dose all the walls. They dose

00:35:41.180 everything. So if you touch it and you touch your

00:35:43.160 eye, you just start like hallucinating

00:35:45.000 and you're walking around. Have I done? Yes or

00:35:47.100 no? LSD. Can I talk about this?

00:35:49.040 You have 100,000 times.

00:35:50.760 Man-bun manager Jeff? 0.97

00:35:52.880 Yeah, can I say whether or not I did it? 0.95

00:35:54.460 How about we talk about our thoughts about it instead?

00:35:56.960 Yeah, instead of the actual action.

00:35:58.980 What is it like?

00:35:59.400 Easy with the 100,000 times.

00:36:01.020 I'm going to need to reel you in, Big Fish.

00:36:03.060 Do it physically. 1.00

00:36:04.340 Come back.

00:36:04.560 No, no, show me.

00:36:06.640 All right, I'm back.

00:36:07.520 Sorry.

00:36:08.080 Not 100,000 times.

00:36:09.180 No, once.

00:36:09.800 Once, twice.

00:36:10.340 No, no.

00:36:11.480 Three times.

00:36:12.700 Got it.

00:36:13.520 Is it better than shrooms? 0.99

00:36:14.960 Absolutely fucking not. 0.99

00:36:16.180 Hold on. 0.99

00:36:16.600 Better is a better?

00:36:17.980 That's like what?

00:36:18.660 This is a gnarly drug.

00:36:19.880 You want to lose your mind?

00:36:22.020 Stop.

00:36:23.480 Potentially permanently, do LSD.

00:36:25.800 Is that the drug where if you crack your back when you're old, you're just like-

00:36:28.980 It stays in your spinal column.

00:36:32.060 He's tripping out.

00:36:33.060 He's messaging it wrong.

00:36:34.680 You need to, like any other drug, work with it very responsibly.

00:36:39.400 It would be nice to work with someone who understands it.

00:36:41.580 Yeah, there's psychedelic therapy clinics that you can go to to do psychedelic assisted therapy,

00:36:47.800 which is you know the way to safely be able to get the benefits from certain types of psychedelics

00:36:54.040 and it's you know the safe way and the legal way to do things so have you found any benefits from

00:36:59.280 your i don't think people should run around like doing acid without like proper guidance because

00:37:04.540 you know these things are dangerous i think you know there's a lot of benefits that are

00:37:09.460 to be achieved if you do it the right way and if you do it in the right setting and if you don't

00:37:15.840 have the knowledge and have someone that can guide you through that.

00:37:19.060 But do you have takeaways or is it just a recreational fun drug?

00:37:22.500 I'm not like, I actually am not like an expert in LLC.

00:37:25.700 I don't know.

00:37:26.600 But surely you've done shrooms sometimes here at this house,

00:37:30.060 even maybe once.

00:37:31.300 I think psilocybin is something that I definitely have done more research in.

00:37:35.080 And I especially see the benefits a lot with mental health and with like

00:37:38.720 having, you know, being presented with, Hey,

00:37:41.860 you can take all these drugs with all these side effects or like, Hey,

00:37:44.840 you can do assisted therapy and you know maybe like just know how to do it on your own but like

00:37:50.600 you know to say okay you can take this pill that is probably gonna have a lot of side effects

00:37:56.600 every day and work on the dosage up till you get to a certain point and that's gonna take a lot

00:38:00.800 long time to find out it might not even work might not work yeah and so it's something that

00:38:04.400 you have to weigh the risk versus rewards for yourself and think like what do you think is the

00:38:07.660 best thing what do you you know you just with anything you have to weigh risk versus rewards

00:38:11.140 And I think sometimes people's calculators needs to be recalibrated.

00:38:15.700 I noticed there's a tipping point with psychedelics where it becomes this semi-beneficial or fully beneficial, however it may or may not help you, substance.

00:38:30.000 And then all of a sudden you're 100% vegan.

00:38:33.880 You worship the god of Shiva.

00:38:35.820 You chant hymns with your friends around a campfire.

00:38:38.440 You smell like essential oils.

00:38:39.580 Yeah, but what were you doing?

00:38:40.720 yeah but what were you doing what were so here's my question what is the other side that looks just

00:38:45.040 as crazy i think if you're standing from that if you start on the other side and you look at like

00:38:50.060 someone living like a normal life that you might have been living before those people are gonna 0.99

00:38:54.180 think you look just as kooky crazy and out of your goddamn mind they as you might as they look 0.87

00:38:58.880 to you there's just a separation there you know there's a distance traveled i'm not a i'm not a 0.99

00:39:03.540 proponent of any of the things that you just mentioned you know i'm not a vegan i'm not you

00:39:08.160 know visiting my my neighborhood shaman on a weekly basis but say that person who you considered

00:39:14.760 to have you know gone over the tipping point as you described it uh was a a ptsd suffering you

00:39:20.760 know iraq veteran and he couldn't sleep ever and he couldn't talk to his kids because he had 0.98

00:39:25.500 terrible fucking thoughts of his kids dying in an ied attack and that was an anxiety inducing 0.96

00:39:30.260 situation he went through this trial period of psilocybin with dr tony bosis out there at nyu 1.00

00:39:35.540 and found that that you know psilocybin therapy calmed his nerves calmed down and he did become

00:39:41.860 a vegan and he taught his kids to stop eating meat and he did become so like i agree with you

00:39:47.500 i i believe you're right have you met any of those no they oh they should stop have you any of those

00:39:52.680 personally no me either but i've met a lot of people who are like oh it's fun it's cool have

00:39:58.460 you benefiting me and like connecting me to the earth and then all of a sudden they're they're

00:40:02.920 literally just a blade of grass no i hear you but also at the same time like have you met a robotics

00:40:07.080 engineer that worked on elon musk's recent spacex program sure there's a couple watching yeah have

00:40:12.420 you met you know what i'm saying like meeting somebody's not a good i can prove my ground on

00:40:15.940 this particular point well the thing is too it's like when you go when you go in and you're like

00:40:21.900 okay i'm gonna take whatever drug it is if you get a prescription or if you're doing this on your

00:40:27.400 in your recreational time it's like okay there's side effects and everyone reacts differently to

00:40:33.460 things and you and you that's why it's like to think about with any drug it's like some things

00:40:39.300 are perceived to be more um safe for people to just kind of do on their own and and i think

00:40:45.320 we're seeing that over time with these things as as laws are changing gradually with you know

00:40:51.040 just like marijuana too it's it used to be thought of and and lsd and that's the reason why tim leary

00:40:56.760 and he was FBI rated.

00:40:58.440 It's like, okay, why is that?

00:41:01.100 They deem this to be so dangerous,

00:41:03.960 but they're not, it's like, okay, at what level?

00:41:06.460 Well, it can be for LSD,

00:41:10.140 but do you remember Reefer Madness?

00:41:12.000 Like Reefer Madness was a movie that came out

00:41:13.960 way before marijuana was even looked at

00:41:15.760 as potentially legalized

00:41:16.720 that was supposed to scare people into believing

00:41:19.800 that if you take one hit of weed, 0.98

00:41:21.720 you'll either become a homosexual, 1.00

00:41:23.480 you'll jump out the window of your building. 1.00

00:41:24.920 They put a whole movie out about this. 0.81

00:41:26.300 And that's just ridiculous and it makes people think all sorts of other crazy things that 0.68

00:41:31.160 are, that they think other crazy things are true because they believe something like that. 0.80

00:41:34.960 And you see people spiral into thinking the craziest things that they hear are true just

00:41:39.180 because like that clearly is not true.

00:41:41.140 I, I, I do understand your guys' point of views, but I don't think those other drugs

00:41:46.980 are at the same capacity of marijuana.

00:41:49.020 They're not, they're not, but, but psilocybin is surely closer.

00:41:52.140 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about as far as like, um, we see a lot of.

00:41:56.300 You know, people now we're seeing votes on decriminalization and like stuff like that.

00:42:00.280 Kind of a similar path that we've seen with marijuana.

00:42:03.720 Just marijuana obviously came before that.

00:42:05.900 So that's kind of what I'm saying as far as we're seeing a change in that because it went from these psychedelics being, you know, the most dangerous of all the drugs to not so much.

00:42:16.240 And when you really look at the science behind it, you're like, how did you even get to that conclusion in the first place?

00:42:20.540 Number one, psilocybin.

00:42:21.860 It's like when you think about mushrooms, it's a plant and they grow on the side of the road.

00:42:25.680 But like when you especially the farther up north you go, you're literally just walking there literally on the side of the road.

00:42:30.680 So to say that that's a criminal thing to have them is kind of just ridiculous because you pick up a plan.

00:42:37.580 So that it's nice to see decriminalization of it.

00:42:41.240 But it's a psychedelic and another psychedelic LSD is made in the lab.

00:42:45.680 And yeah, it's when you think about the inventor of LSD did LSD every single day for.

00:42:52.980 Did he micro those 20 plus years?

00:42:54.720 Oh, not micro, macro.

00:42:56.080 He lived to be over 100, and his wife did the same.

00:42:58.520 They both lived to be over 100.

00:42:59.300 He does not have the same story as some of the other cosmonauts

00:43:01.840 because some of the other early psychedelic cosmonauts

00:43:04.440 did not end up in his greatest situations.

00:43:07.280 They've had some major situations.

00:43:08.660 But LSD, you asked the question, is it better?

00:43:12.120 It's a really tough question.

00:43:13.660 It's like we had that conversation about Drake versus the Beatles.

00:43:16.180 Who's better?

00:43:17.140 The word better is a very metric-less terminology

00:43:20.220 when it comes to comparing.

00:43:22.080 One seems dangerous, and the other is-

00:43:24.260 No, no, no, no, no.

00:43:25.040 So that's what I'm saying.

00:43:25.960 So let me just, LSD, from what I understand,

00:43:29.820 is the most powerful drug from a mass

00:43:34.160 to actual effect standpoint on the planet.

00:43:37.660 So one teaspoon of LSD would be enough

00:43:41.900 to get like a million people at a concert high.

00:43:44.040 One teaspoon, like a teaspoon. 0.98

00:43:45.680 So if you really did it, you'd fucking just easily do it. 0.97

00:43:47.980 Oh, yeah, you could. 0.95

00:43:48.720 People do that.

00:43:49.960 People do, somehow, I know.

00:43:51.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:52.220 No, but those are still, at the end of the day,

00:43:53.860 They still might do 500 micrograms.

00:43:56.720 It's still not a teaspoon.

00:43:58.100 Have you guys seen Good Times, the movie with Robert Pattinson?

00:44:01.620 No.

00:44:02.220 Maybe.

00:44:02.780 There's this scene in the movie where they have a bottle full of acid.

00:44:06.060 Right.

00:44:06.680 And they pour it into this guy's mouth.

00:44:10.160 Basically, they broke into a theme park, and the security guard, they don't want him to remember.

00:44:15.960 Right?

00:44:16.200 And what happens?

00:44:16.700 Because he finds them and is chasing them.

00:44:18.180 So nothing.

00:44:18.720 He just goes to the hospital.

00:44:20.140 Obviously, it's a movie, so it's not real life.

00:44:22.400 But like, I don't, like, I don't know.

00:44:24.760 He's just like.

00:44:27.100 You can die as a result of, as actions.

00:44:30.480 The guy who ran into the fire at Burning Man.

00:44:33.560 Okay, that, yeah.

00:44:34.800 Did you guys see?

00:44:35.420 Did you do that ran into fire?

00:44:37.580 He's not a moth.

00:44:38.220 Well, he's not the only one.

00:44:39.600 I mean, someone almost died at the Leary Ranch in a fire.

00:44:42.900 The guy tipped over into the fire when he was on acid trip.

00:44:46.180 He took synthetic cello.

00:44:46.720 Whatever, regardless.

00:44:48.000 And he didn't end up dying.

00:44:48.760 Yes, and he died.

00:44:49.580 He died.

00:44:49.880 A lot of people end up in fires.

00:44:51.300 because they're very attractive

00:44:52.240 when you're on a psychedelic.

00:44:53.500 Have you guys seen-

00:44:54.340 Wow.

00:44:55.000 It's a fire, George.

00:44:56.620 I don't know.

00:44:56.940 I want to be inside that.

00:44:58.000 I mean-

00:44:58.420 If you're not under,

00:44:59.720 you know,

00:45:00.060 if you're under a macro dose,

00:45:01.860 if you, listen-

00:45:02.180 Is it doing more good for the world

00:45:03.880 or bad for the world?

00:45:04.560 I think psilocybin will get to a place-

00:45:06.660 It's doing more good, how?

00:45:07.540 In the next five years,

00:45:08.800 over the next five years,

00:45:09.940 I believe that psilocybin

00:45:11.220 through medicinal legalization

00:45:13.600 and semi-decriminalization

00:45:15.080 across different places

00:45:16.160 will get to a place

00:45:17.200 where it is doing more good than bad.

00:45:18.940 LSD, back to the better thing,

00:45:20.540 final note on it is far more intense and hard to wrangle than psilocybin you can have a night

00:45:27.640 of psilocybin out at the local bar hanging out with your friends having a great time laughing

00:45:31.260 amongst each other even on a high dose even on a three and a half to four grams you saw Mike Tyson

00:45:36.080 on this podcast take four and a half grams of mushrooms and do a podcast really yes now if he 0.70

00:45:42.180 took a macro dose of acid he would not be able to fucking do the podcast you see that joint behind 0.88

00:45:47.200 george's head yeah mike tyson spoke that oh my god it's pretty cool we're pretty proud of it here's 0.94

00:45:52.180 the thing and that's so let me explain a little bit to you about psilocybin and like something

00:45:57.180 the thing that helps you know well first of all my dad he's a veteran ptsd all these different

00:46:04.900 things he has about like eight different prescriptions he has to take for different

00:46:08.980 things whether it's nightmares ptsd you know muscle relaxers painkillers antidepressants

00:46:15.840 bipolar medication whatever it is like pretty much has had all of them and over the years they

00:46:19.420 change it's like and then to be like oh like maybe you know try smoking weed or try mushrooms instead

00:46:27.420 of taking 10 different pills a day and then seeing the results of like i don't want to take these

00:46:32.260 anyways like they don't make me like each one is for another one it's like you take ptsc medicine

00:46:36.920 then you have to take sleeping pills and then take the sleeping pills and you get nightmares

00:46:39.380 you have to take nightmare medicine and then you take you know and it's just a cyclical thing of

00:46:42.800 like hey you know it's risk versus reward you have to weigh it and like taking all these things are

00:46:47.660 just not good long term it's like you see it with like painkillers you have to you have you know

00:46:51.520 you're a disabled veteran or you're a veteran or you're older whatever the case is you're taking

00:46:55.860 painkillers every day it's like uh that has long-term effects that are there's really high

00:47:00.520 side effects hello i agree one thousand one billion percent you know when you think like

00:47:05.980 when you think about like oh what are the side effects of these drugs well any other drug that

00:47:09.420 i just named have have way more deaths you know way more like side effects overall so you have to

00:47:14.480 put that into perspective and think about okay you know one thing has way less side effects and

00:47:21.180 there's like rare and few or far between of like serious things versus some things have you know

00:47:27.440 side effects for most or if not all people and then you know those things are compounding and

00:47:31.980 over time how they affect you i would definitely take the homeopathic route for sure because i feel

00:47:36.860 like you know medicine is it's a business they want you to take that pill to get this pill that

00:47:41.960 i get it but i don't know about like your age growing up but like our age growing up don't

00:47:50.200 get in cars and strangers we have uber now don't do drugs hey by the way it could actually cure you 0.99

00:47:57.020 so is that like what what the fuck man like like i'm confused that's crazy well yeah that's right 0.99

00:48:04.060 it's like you do your own research because i was watching mad men do you know what i'm saying like 0.99

00:48:09.280 i've been watching mad men recently and then you you see them talk about like psychiatry and smoking

00:48:13.880 in the show like just they're you know an advertising business in the 60s and stuff and

00:48:18.020 then they're talking about psychiatry and it's a reoccurring theme throughout the show but they 0.93

00:48:22.060 literally know nothing they just like say the most random shit that you can clearly tell they just 0.87

00:48:26.220 don't have any knowledge psychiatry is like a new trend and everyone's like oh they just have a 0.95

00:48:30.060 nervous breakdown meanwhile the girl ends up with parkinson's it's like they don't it's like

00:48:34.360 every you know we learn more as we go so things change and people's opinions change that's why

00:48:39.860 you have to like take every new information that you get and you know factor it in to make your

00:48:44.320 decision like you can't be concrete with your opinion because you're presented with new facts

00:48:49.840 every single day i agree i just i look at it from a bird's eye view and some things are like you

00:48:55.580 said like risk and reward to me it's like i'm not gonna dabble with you don't you don't have to and

00:49:00.460 that and the biggest thing for for someone like you george is that completely makes sense now i

00:49:04.340 don't i don't know what demons you personally struggle with up here but i i find a lot of

00:49:08.240 people that think the way you think and honestly i think the same way about a lot of things deal

00:49:12.740 with anxiety depression ptsd some level of demon and so if you came up to me and you were like

00:49:17.800 yo you've been on effects or 500 or 50 or whatever for eight years before that you tried lexicro

00:49:24.220 before that it was Zoloft none of those drugs have any have any had any effect on you wake up

00:49:28.820 every day you can't define any moment over the past decade that's made you truly happy over the

00:49:33.160 past decade we're gonna try something new with you I'm gonna coach you through it we're gonna 0.93

00:49:37.280 work on it together I would be all fucking ears on that so like for someone who's extremely mentally

00:49:42.440 clear and and feels very good about things I you too and I maybe you too I don't know but for the 0.64

00:49:49.720 person out there who's been struggling for over a decade with some level of demons whether it be

00:49:53.980 voices whether it be any of the other things i just described like all of a sudden this new thing

00:49:58.420 pops up and they see light at the end of the tunnel you know so i can't ever speak for other

00:50:02.860 people's point of views they can never do that never and i'll never disrespect anybody if they

00:50:06.800 have any type of depression or anxiety i do deal with it on a on a very small basis sure but growing

00:50:12.120 up uh i brought a lot of problems to a religious standpoint and i feel like a lot of people do that

00:50:17.480 if it's not religious it's a higher power some people believe in the universe people believe in

00:50:21.540 drugs some people do all that things but what my what my problem is and i i get worried about not

00:50:26.780 talking about your guys's point of the life so please don't take this as in me talking about

00:50:31.140 your guys's point of views but my fear is that somebody's like oh yeah okay and they just do

00:50:36.720 that take the easier route what i'm saying is hey climb that mountain you know i mean maybe

00:50:41.780 get quit your job go find something else maybe uh lose some weight hit the gym maybe change your 0.96

00:50:46.720 diet yeah i think a lot of people are like trying to take these fucking shortcuts because all we're 0.97

00:50:50.760 doing is living a fast paced generation that it's like at what point are you just you're just and 0.97

00:50:55.440 here's the thing a lot of people do research some people just simply have no motivation and they

00:50:59.600 simply don't care they don't they're you're not gonna say hit the gym and lose weight because

00:51:03.500 they don't care they are apathetic to life they don't care nothing you can say is like oh try this

00:51:09.160 they don't want to they don't care they want to do nothing they don't want to exist necessarily

00:51:12.940 so like to say do this to have this result it's not that they are necessarily unhappy with like

00:51:18.340 oh I'm fat and I want to be skinny or I'm skinny and I want to be bigger or like I have this and

00:51:23.900 I want to do this they just don't care to be apathetic is very different than to like

00:51:27.580 you know not be happy with where you are in life a thousand percent so sometimes it's just your

00:51:32.300 brain chemistry chemical imbalance being like I just simply don't care about anything and then

00:51:36.380 it's like here maybe I can have some hope of life and like want to exist and want to learn things

00:51:40.580 and want to have interactions with people versus like why do I even exist and that's not the

00:51:45.600 minority set it's a fucked up thing to imagine that that is closer to the median that the average 0.60

00:51:51.140 value of of you know like there's a lot of people out there who have lofty goals but there's a lot 0.95

00:51:55.660 of people out there who have that apathy towards life and are just and are just you know getting

00:52:00.780 by day to day i i was i was reading recently as a author by the name of tolstoy who you know

00:52:06.780 describes that apathy towards what's coming and and what you can do about it you know and he

00:52:11.980 describes these four different outlooks and one of them being full on hedonism yeah the other one

00:52:17.180 being suicide and so like you know also is a very dark writer but i think there's a lot of people

00:52:21.140 out there who are trying to find that purpose in life and or not or you can just realize that like

00:52:26.460 society is literally the whole thing is made up and you can here we go here we go we're in the

00:52:31.980 simulation folks hey hey what you mean by that well think about it everything that we do in

00:52:38.400 society is made up somebody had the idea to like do anything in society that we do like what side

00:52:43.460 of the road we drive on like speaking a language yeah but why survival and just like but the point

00:52:49.020 is they just add all these layers efficiency structure and organization is the answer well

00:52:53.400 you want to know what there's a lot of different ways to do things and we've progressed and times

00:52:57.240 are changed changed so much to think that like it's not about why we do things it's about the

00:53:01.700 fact that we made it up and people think that that that's not the case you have to go into life

00:53:05.640 realizing like somebody had this idea to do this like this and we just decided to start doing

00:53:10.060 things a certain way and then you think like but not just for any reason no no hey we created the

00:53:14.880 wheel no no no but what i'm saying i'm not i'm not saying i'm not saying that everything that

00:53:19.220 people humans do i'm saying society there's people in the world that don't live in the same society

00:53:23.720 as us in every other country their society is different meaning they do things different ways

00:53:27.700 meaning you can't think the only way that we do things is the only way because it's not so when

00:53:33.460 you think about how much they vary it's a lot so to think about like every society varies so much

00:53:38.320 and be like okay so like why do i think this is the only way to do things it's just simply not

00:53:42.740 like there's infinite possibilities where do you draw the line so you're right now you're talking

00:53:47.520 about social construct right yeah but like like there are people out there you have to wake up

00:53:52.700 in the morning and go to sleep at night who tells you why can't you sleep like for four hours in

00:53:57.180 the middle of the day and thought is wait wait wait no hold on stop wait one second says that

00:54:01.280 your body hits a certain type of like rem at night and so no no but they're in your genetics

00:54:05.500 there's some people that are that perform better in the morning and some people that perform better

00:54:09.400 at the night and the window of time like makes for a different type of sleeping schedule that

00:54:13.420 you should be on but yes and it's in your genetics but the thing is people just think oh everybody

00:54:18.060 wakes the same time and goes sleep that's not necessarily the most efficient way for you but

00:54:22.120 But nowadays, you don't need to do that, right?

00:54:24.340 We've created a structure.

00:54:25.780 Society is a structure that is organized

00:54:28.180 to get from A to B in the most efficient, effective way possible.

00:54:31.400 But for who?

00:54:32.160 But for who?

00:54:32.960 The mass.

00:54:33.700 And when you think, no, but listen.

00:54:35.120 But the masses are losing.

00:54:36.180 The masses are losing.

00:54:37.160 The masses are losing.

00:54:38.460 They're poor.

00:54:38.980 They can't afford to feed their children.

00:54:40.120 The masses are losing.

00:54:41.000 I don't think the masses are.

00:54:42.020 They are.

00:54:42.920 That's what I'm saying.

00:54:43.820 I don't think the majority of Americans are quote-unquote.

00:54:46.080 Jeff, the masses, the masses.

00:54:47.060 Welcome back to the new conspiracy episode on Impulsive.

00:54:49.960 Slow down.

00:54:50.260 The masses are not poor.

00:54:52.120 They're not, but there is a tremendous, tremendous, tremendous amount of people in this country who are either A, homeless, B, hungry, C, underwater on their mortgage, D, in some level of strife in their life.

00:55:09.340 okay so if poor is not the right word whatever word you want to use the system right now the

00:55:13.960 structure that you define as a uh system for the masses to succeed is actually a system for the top

00:55:21.340 to succeed the bottom gets the ride along it's made for you to say like if you work hard enough

00:55:26.260 in these lower levels you can work your way up so that when you get to the top you know it's harder

00:55:29.980 to get there that like it's not in as much jeopardy and like you've gotten your way there

00:55:34.060 that's like what they tell you

00:55:36.420 is there a species where this is not true

00:55:39.200 humans are just ants

00:55:40.820 we're a giant ant colony

00:55:41.920 we're animals right

00:55:43.220 so animals it's interesting

00:55:45.080 because like I have a bunch of cats

00:55:47.280 you guys know

00:55:47.800 so I just got a savannah cat

00:55:50.320 and to see the way they interact

00:55:51.760 you can see it

00:55:53.780 but the way that they interact

00:55:57.320 and you see and you learn so much

00:55:58.720 because like animals

00:56:00.760 they go off of instinct

00:56:01.920 and they also have so much knowledge

00:56:03.960 in their genetics when they are born they know how to do so many things and we know how to do

00:56:07.840 nothing so when you think about the fact that like okay they just go about their life they do

00:56:12.240 all these different things my cat plays with my ipad and like my cat is so smart but he also

00:56:16.880 he knows how to like communicate with me and the other cats without words so when you think about

00:56:21.560 that you're like okay so there's just different ways to do things and it changes over time we

00:56:25.440 see like oh especially with the stock market recently and with crypto guess what banks said

00:56:30.300 this is the way things are done and people said actually we can do whatever we want because

00:56:33.400 society is made up and the banking system is made up and we can make our own banking system so we

00:56:37.520 can just do whatever we want so if you think about like hey this idea was once made up by someone

00:56:42.140 who maybe probably necessarily wasn't maybe may or may not have been much smarter than me or you

00:56:47.900 or anyone they made up this way to do it so maybe i can make up a new way that could be smarter

00:56:51.980 and the times have changed so much that like i think we're seeing a lot of structural changes

00:56:56.700 in our society and i think like that's a really great thing to think about because when you think

00:57:01.820 about the structures in society like systematic racism and the fact that those things can be

00:57:06.460 changed when people make an effort it's great to see and like explore that because guess what

00:57:11.260 people are just going along with it because society told them that's the way it is that's

00:57:14.660 not true that's like and that's the point that i'm making i just i hope we never stop evolving

00:57:20.160 though because i think evolution is extremely natural it's what you're describing right there 0.92

00:57:23.520 was a banking system and the people were like ah let's decentralize this shit and the point is that 0.87

00:57:27.240 it's all made up so you can make up a new one is my point in society make up a new one though for 0.97

00:57:31.380 what reason because it's better right or it functions yeah because just because people tell

00:57:36.780 you this is the best way to do things you can question it and that's the problem the thing

00:57:40.080 that i'm saying is like don't take anything of like oh this is 100 the best way because no one

00:57:45.180 will innovate if they think that i hope we never so you want you want people to think of doing

00:57:49.600 anything i hope we can no there's when is the blockchain going to be outdated but honestly

00:57:54.420 But money, but finance is the first piece of decentralization that we're seeing.

00:58:02.440 It's going to lead to a completely different society.

00:58:04.000 The next thing that you're going to start to see is decentralized thought.

00:58:07.740 And that's people having to, the ability to think for themselves.

00:58:11.060 And so at one point, and so at one point, Plato said, yo, this is how things are.

00:58:16.020 I'm positive.

00:58:17.340 This is my beliefs on mathematics, on form, on physics.

00:58:20.580 20, 30 years later, Aristotle said, yo, that's not true. 0.97

00:58:22.860 and came up with a fully different fucking school of thinking 0.95

00:58:25.200 and now both are looked at, right? 0.98

00:58:26.760 And everybody's saying, let's think for ourselves.

00:58:28.400 And there's hundreds of different schools

00:58:29.840 of philosophical thought.

00:58:30.860 And I find it very interesting

00:58:32.080 to study one different philosopher

00:58:34.940 and then kind of put myself

00:58:36.200 and look at each different situation

00:58:37.900 from that point of view.

00:58:39.340 And I'm like, I can come to different conclusions

00:58:41.680 and I don't necessarily 100% agree

00:58:43.880 or disagree with any one,

00:58:45.400 but I can see now,

00:58:47.120 there's all these different types of people in the world

00:58:49.440 that see things completely different

00:58:51.020 than maybe I necessarily do.

00:58:53.340 And like, who says we have to think the same

00:58:55.140 because we don't?

00:58:56.420 That's the point.

00:58:57.120 Do you guys not feel that

00:58:57.860 that could lead to a dangerous route?

00:59:00.280 What, saying,

00:59:01.060 allowing people to have free, decentralized slots?

00:59:03.820 No, I mean, like, at what point do we cap it?

00:59:05.840 Like, what if my race feels like

00:59:07.260 your race doesn't need to be on this planet anymore?

00:59:09.260 It shouldn't affect other people.

00:59:10.600 It shouldn't, yeah.

00:59:11.560 What are you talking about?

00:59:13.620 That's how people, you would think,

00:59:14.540 they would open up those borders. 0.95

00:59:17.220 Think about, like, Hitler's time.

00:59:18.860 What do you want to fix the economic state? 0.65

00:59:20.880 No, you're right.

00:59:21.500 And he thinks, why are we supporting Jewish?

00:59:22.860 Yes, it's dangerous.

00:59:23.920 It's dangerous, but if you confine,

00:59:28.860 hold on, if you confine or go, sorry.

00:59:30.860 I was just gonna say,

00:59:31.620 if you confine and constrict the potential upside

00:59:35.520 as a action to mitigate the potential downside,

00:59:39.100 you are limiting the ability for us to grow as a speech.

00:59:41.460 I'm saying it's not that easy to just change,

00:59:44.120 because let me give you an example.

00:59:45.140 50 years ago, if you took the people from 50,

00:59:48.720 or no, not even, 20 years ago,

00:59:50.120 took them 30 years ago we'll we'll meet at 30 so it makes sense take it took them from 30 years

00:59:56.080 brought them here the way they would look at the way men are acting and women are acting they'll

00:59:59.780 be like yo this is this is crazy it's crazy but we're progressing as like a society and yes like

01:00:04.620 these yeah it's inevitable it's the oscillation and it never stops and like that's what life is

01:00:09.060 everything is a wave it oscillates up and down back and forth the stock market crypto life

01:00:13.480 people's ideology left and right everything they do so like you have to realize that that's it's

01:00:17.740 when people feel they're getting pulled too far one way then they like correct so it's just like

01:00:21.620 wait true true true but i don't think that should break our structure and i'll tell you why because

01:00:26.660 some people honestly shouldn't have that room to think because their thoughts are not going to be

01:00:30.820 taking in a right place think about it if you gave a guy in the street like okay man you're

01:00:35.160 gonna run this state right now he might do better than our mayor now but so you're going it you're

01:00:39.620 going into democracy and you're going into the argument of the philosophy of the philosophical

01:00:43.300 argument about democracy and is

01:00:45.040 is it a true democracy if you let everybody vote

01:00:47.340 or is it a true democracy if you let the educated

01:00:49.260 people who can make the best decisions because

01:00:51.200 they have knowledge vote. And that has always been like

01:00:53.420 Can I give you an example? But that has been an argument

01:00:55.240 over the course of history on like what

01:00:56.920 democracy truly is. Back to the Senate

01:00:58.980 like the true Senate. May I give you like one example

01:01:01.380 of what I'm saying?

01:01:04.220 People don't always have

01:01:05.300 good in their heart. They might have good intentions

01:01:07.420 for themselves but they don't have good in their heart.

01:01:09.180 Let me give you an example. When the Me Too movement happened

01:01:11.180 everybody was excited about it because like yeah 1.00

01:01:12.780 fuck these motherfuckers 1.00

01:01:14.040 that are taking their power 1.00

01:01:15.560 to the next level right

01:01:16.520 but then what happened

01:01:17.340 right after that 1.00

01:01:17.940 we had girls that were lying 1.00

01:01:19.720 guys that were lying 1.00

01:01:20.720 and they were burning 1.00

01:01:21.260 we had a fucking guy 1.00

01:01:22.260 from the empire 1.00

01:01:23.080 hurting himself in Chicago

01:01:24.700 that's what I'm saying

01:01:26.560 like what I'm saying is

01:01:27.420 do you want to give

01:01:28.320 these people power

01:01:29.720 no one said about giving

01:01:31.440 there should be one guy

01:01:32.560 when you have a fall

01:01:33.360 and you can make it an access

01:01:34.460 that's a problem

01:01:35.040 Joshi Smolley is running

01:01:36.000 for governor

01:01:37.180 he might win

01:01:38.960 I say there needs to be one

01:01:41.340 so you're saying

01:01:41.640 your question is is democracy allowing every single person to have equal amount of free speech

01:01:49.060 and power or are you saying only the people that are educated and necessarily have good hearts and

01:01:53.020 on and by whose standard have had the ability to make decisions and it's who's going to be the

01:01:57.700 judge of that like where you know what's the key like what are we judging by who decides what that

01:02:01.720 key is it's like society goes against when they don't like something everyone can team up together

01:02:06.140 and say like yeah we don't we don't support that and it's great with like what we're seeing with

01:02:11.060 uh crypto and stuff like that you're able to like put your money where you want to support things

01:02:14.760 if you don't like the way like certain things are being done then it's decentralized i believe in

01:02:19.580 one overarching spotlight or highlight of this entire conversation just finish this and then go

01:02:25.620 it is it's part of this all right i think the the overarching belief needs to be and guiding light

01:02:31.340 always needs to be. If what you are trying to pursue has a negative effect directly on the

01:02:38.520 lives of someone else, then that is an irrational school of thought and should be discarded.

01:02:43.180 As long as every single philosophy, every single form that you come up with for society, for

01:02:50.520 yourself, for your life follows that one guiding principle, then we would all end up in a great

01:02:55.500 place. Yeah. Yeah. I think if you think about, okay, how much does this, you have, it's all

01:02:59.640 comes back to risk versus reward how much does this benefit me versus like how much does this

01:03:05.320 hurt others how much does this benefit the society i exist in and how much does this like hurt that

01:03:11.840 and if it doesn't hurt the society of the people around you and you can do whatever you want to

01:03:17.200 like not do that then what's the point like if it doesn't if it's not bothering other people

01:03:21.640 like then okay yeah you're not directly hurting other people pass a threshold of like them feeling

01:03:27.220 like you are you know what I'm saying like I can do this I don't have to necessarily talk to someone

01:03:31.400 on the street that wants to talk to me okay yeah maybe like I can weigh my resource reward do I

01:03:36.780 want to like if I don't want to talk to someone I can still talk to them so everyone can feel nicer

01:03:40.760 in this environment or like I can weigh if I want to or not you know what I mean it's kind of like

01:03:44.740 does that go does this make me too uncomfortable to do it or does it make me more uncomfortable

01:03:48.280 to not it's basically what it comes down to and like how much that affects the situation that

01:03:52.540 you're in we ended up in a metaphysical conversation with Chantel Jeffries once again

01:03:56.520 I think we did this last time too. 0.96

01:03:57.740 This is what she does.

01:03:59.320 And the reason why I'm happy it went to this place

01:04:01.220 was because this is where she gets comfortable

01:04:03.100 and talks about stuff.

01:04:04.500 Like, I feel like this is the stuff

01:04:05.860 that you truly enjoy discussing.

01:04:08.120 Am I right?

01:04:08.960 Yeah, I like to think of like, you know,

01:04:10.740 just even talking about philosophy

01:04:12.100 like we were just doing.

01:04:13.060 It's like just being able to do a thought experiment

01:04:15.380 and look at something and not say,

01:04:17.200 okay, I'm going to bring my opinion necessarily into this

01:04:19.060 because I know I have things

01:04:20.400 that have shaped my specific opinion,

01:04:22.020 which nobody has the same experience on earth as me.

01:04:25.140 So I have to see how much of that I can put aside to say as an overall,

01:04:29.540 you know, philosophical idea, I think this is sound or not.

01:04:33.160 You're talking about the lens, what you're speaking of.

01:04:35.160 Yeah.

01:04:35.300 Everybody has a different lens.

01:04:35.920 Like a different lens.

01:04:36.580 Can I take away my lens of like me, you know,

01:04:39.640 and who I am and think of this as like,

01:04:41.660 do I think this concept is sound or not?

01:04:44.460 Like,

01:04:44.700 do I think different examples fit into this and work out and give me a good

01:04:47.960 answer or not?

01:04:49.200 I'm kind of just doing that.

01:04:50.720 Logan looks like he's about to change gears here because he's got something

01:04:53.480 pulled up.

01:04:53.920 I think we could all, I mean, I don't know

01:04:55.500 if we could all meet in the middle,

01:04:56.440 but my thought process is this.

01:04:58.920 Everybody has a different point of view

01:05:00.320 and I just don't want it to cross

01:05:02.500 onto other people's point of view.

01:05:04.060 For example, if you look at a tree,

01:05:05.720 one kid might-

01:05:06.300 You hit the forex, I didn't think you would-

01:05:07.560 It has to come into balance.

01:05:08.960 It has to be-

01:05:09.520 I think he's given the final.

01:05:10.820 I think he's given the final.

01:05:11.280 Hey, if I had to stop and point out every single thing

01:05:13.380 both of you guys do, we wouldn't have a podcast.

01:05:15.060 We just go back and forth.

01:05:15.940 I'm defending you.

01:05:17.040 I'm saying he's giving his final-

01:05:18.300 No, no, no, no, collateral damage. 1.00

01:05:19.220 Fuck you. 1.00

01:05:19.920 So what's going to happen is I'm going to finish. 1.00

01:05:23.920 For example, you're lucky I don't have my spider shit, bro. 1.00

01:05:27.420 I'll just fucking both of you guys right now. 1.00

01:05:30.420 They love you. 1.00

01:05:31.100 So good.

01:05:31.440 That was the best moment of 2021.

01:05:33.560 Ever.

01:05:34.320 Ever.

01:05:34.800 Thank God. 0.99

01:05:35.460 At least we ended it with a good fucking bang. 0.99

01:05:37.400 It's not over, man. 0.99

01:05:38.340 It's not over.

01:05:38.860 We're not leaving. 0.98

01:05:39.080 We're not fucking leaving. 0.97

01:05:40.200 I'm not leaving. 0.99

01:05:41.840 I'm going to end it with this.

01:05:43.380 Everybody has a point of view.

01:05:44.620 I could look at a tree and then I could see a tree and then this could get dark.

01:05:48.880 But I saw my father hang himself on a tree.

01:05:51.120 and then another person's perspective is her mommy's to pick apples with her so this person's

01:05:56.240 idea of a tree is dark and this is light what i'm saying is i get that you guys want to be like hey

01:06:01.700 this is my thought process i want to hit but i feel like because we all have such a big and

01:06:06.100 diverse point of view and how life is actually structured that there should be a huge group

01:06:11.200 conversation for the mass and how it should run but because you guys are like pro drugs and the

01:06:17.640 fixing of it whoa i'm gonna give you an example let's do drugs pro drugs and an example but this

01:06:22.160 person i'm pro choice right i'm pro choice i want to be very clear because i'm pro choice about

01:06:26.840 everything that like we've talked about on here i'm not like saying go do anything or not do

01:06:31.740 anything i'm saying you should have your choice to do so you're pro personal responsibility but

01:06:35.760 at like what point do you draw that line like you have a choice people people are gonna if they

01:06:40.280 want to do drugs or not they are going to do that and it's better if like but he does drugs hits a

01:06:44.780 little girl on a bike now this girl's never gonna guess what if you think that it's illegal or not

01:06:49.760 that's gonna stop people from doing it that doesn't that's just not true no that's not true

01:06:54.100 guys guys stop it you can't say that because if you make it legal millions of more people feel

01:06:59.120 safer to do that drug i don't know it might be one of those things where think about people are

01:07:04.420 telling you you can't do it and you feel inclined to do it yeah that's pure pressure what also

01:07:09.420 alcohol is the one you can drink guess what you can get you can drink alcohol and get behind the

01:07:13.480 wheel of a car, and that happens way more than, like, people

01:07:15.540 do in driving. And they drive in close more.

01:07:17.640 So I'm like, there's a choice in life for

01:07:19.640 anything. There's a choice in life, and

01:07:21.440 you have to realize that, like, your choices have consequences.

01:07:23.560 There's a choice in life for everything. So it's just

01:07:25.560 like, pro-choice. This is, like,

01:07:27.720 the way that I feel about it. I don't know. I just

01:07:29.480 think about it this way. If the gym's open, there's a lot

01:07:31.560 more people that are gonna go into it. Nice job.

01:07:33.480 Nice. Go to the gym. I like go to the gym. That seems

01:07:35.520 like the right ending, though. Go work out.

01:07:37.600 Get a workout. Yeah, go work out. You don't want to take LSD.

01:07:39.580 Just take a pre-workout. Speaking of pre-workout.

01:07:41.640 I am looking at this and worried

01:07:43.820 This is your girlfriend's Instagram

01:07:46.800 And this just in

01:07:48.840 Her last Instagram post

01:07:51.020 Oh my god I can't believe it

01:07:52.520 Quoted Cardi B

01:07:53.700 If ain't no ring on my finger you ain't going on my gram

01:07:56.400 Is that why she didn't post you on Valentine's Day 1.00

01:07:59.240 I didn't even know about it 1.00

01:08:00.380 This chick is out of control 1.00

01:08:02.980 Right now 1.00

01:08:04.020 Dog look who liked it

01:08:06.500 Look at the bottom

01:08:07.660 Your sister

01:08:08.680 My sister.

01:08:10.160 Dog, I'm getting teamed up on out here, bro.

01:08:12.460 Oh, my God.

01:08:13.040 People need to slow the road. 0.97

01:08:14.460 I don't even believe in the social construct of marriage.

01:08:18.500 Yeah, like, what do you mean?

01:08:19.740 I believe in the decentralization of relationships.

01:08:22.440 Yeah, same.

01:08:22.860 Okay?

01:08:23.600 People should be free to think and act responsibly.

01:08:25.820 People should be able to, if they want to be in a regular relationship or not.

01:08:30.360 Are you okay?

01:08:31.120 No, she's fine. 0.99

01:08:32.260 I just, you know, if you get an LSD, this is what fucking happens. 1.00

01:08:37.160 Period. 1.00

01:08:37.600 When you do drugs.

01:08:38.680 Yeah, I don't know what to say about it.

01:08:42.520 Her eyebrows are phenomenal.

01:08:43.580 But all I know is, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 0.88

01:08:47.000 Look at her eyebrows. 1.00

01:08:47.860 What the fuck is this? 1.00

01:08:48.660 Logan, she may say I can't get anything, a picture on the gram. 1.00

01:08:52.560 She said him nudes as we speak.

01:08:54.380 But look at that picture right there.

01:08:57.800 And what does that caption say? 1.00

01:08:59.200 She has a pink cowboy hat on. 0.88

01:09:00.920 She's holding it.

01:09:01.920 And she says, can I take a ride, sir?

01:09:04.120 And I said, anytime you want, pretty lady.

01:09:06.060 So maybe she won't post me on the gram.

01:09:07.380 but she's going to post up on this gram

01:09:09.640 if you know what I'm saying. 1.00

01:09:11.600 Does that mean your dick is a gram? 1.00

01:09:12.900 I don't fucking know, George. Did anybody catch that shit? 1.00

01:09:15.580 George, you are a social construct. 1.00

01:09:17.880 You're not even a real person.

01:09:18.700 We're not even really here. It's a simulation and guess what?

01:09:21.640 I'm just a thought that you could possibly be here or not.

01:09:23.160 I'm about to be a simulation when I'm in Puerto Rico.

01:09:25.780 Full hologram.

01:09:27.560 I'll become a simulation when I

01:09:29.560 upload myself to the clock.

01:09:31.280 Thread or wax?

01:09:32.560 You think you'll get married one day? How do you feel about marriage?

01:09:34.860 I'm just curious.

01:09:35.460 I think it's a social construct

01:09:38.300 I don't believe in it 1.00

01:09:39.780 It's the dumbest shit 1.00

01:09:41.460 I don't believe 1.00

01:09:44.060 I'm not even going to get into my

01:09:47.800 You know what, I'm glad I was catfished

01:09:49.960 I don't believe in anything I believe in

01:09:51.760 I like you a lot, take half my money 0.99

01:09:54.160 Like what kind of shit is that 0.99

01:09:56.040 Yo, you're dope and I like hanging out with you 1.00

01:09:58.240 Here's half my money

01:09:59.500 And a nice ring and we're going to march around

01:10:01.820 In front of some people in Hawaii

01:10:03.780 Like, dude, why can't we just love each other? 1.00

01:10:05.360 Bro, you posted a fucking video of you guys. 1.00

01:10:07.380 Don't talk about the fucking clown right now. 1.00

01:10:08.860 I'll come clapping at both of you guys. 1.00

01:10:10.480 Marriage is great.

01:10:11.460 You can get a prenup.

01:10:12.540 What's next?

01:10:13.320 Give me something else about marriage.

01:10:14.100 I said pro-choice.

01:10:14.820 They asked me about me.

01:10:16.120 Well, guess what he says.

01:10:16.900 Do you want to marry me? 1.00

01:10:18.020 It's your fucking choice. 1.00

01:10:19.280 You can say yes or no. 1.00

01:10:20.640 Next.

01:10:21.080 Listen here.

01:10:21.560 You're not Renee Descartes.

01:10:22.300 I'm shooting from the hips.

01:10:23.360 Yeah, Renee Descartes is my favorite.

01:10:25.120 I knew it.

01:10:25.620 I knew it.

01:10:26.480 I was about to say it, too.

01:10:28.080 I was about to say it earlier.

01:10:29.580 I was reading it.

01:10:30.280 I was like, did I really?

01:10:33.240 Because he's the platform for simulation

01:10:36.180 for all of that stuff.

01:10:38.980 He goes, well, I just don't know what is real.

01:10:41.440 So I'm just going to pretend.

01:10:42.660 He's like, I'm going to go all the way back

01:10:43.780 to nothing is real

01:10:44.540 and then see each thing that I can confirm is real

01:10:47.120 and then add them on.

01:10:47.960 So I think it was Descartes, right?

01:10:52.480 His core belief is that

01:10:54.300 just because you can hear it, smell it, see it, taste it

01:10:58.820 doesn't mean it's real.

01:10:59.840 He is, I think, where I am.

01:11:01.580 Right, exactly.

01:11:02.440 because there's just me my cousin it was like the car and i was like i think therefore i am and it

01:11:07.420 was like inanimate objects and it was that you know that like the kid going like this and like

01:11:11.480 disappeared oh he knows all about that we love yeah he loves that bro uh so his objective or

01:11:20.220 his uh observation on life is that just because your senses support it doesn't mean it's 100

01:11:25.520 real so there's more at play here than simply your senses so the only thing that's real is if

01:11:30.380 you are conscious then you know that you're if you're able to think then being able to have that

01:11:35.100 thought means that you're real yes so like it's it's really complicated he's like i he's like i'm

01:11:40.580 gonna go get married now so i don't have to think about this hey question he's like i need to make 0.99

01:11:45.220 sure it's real does this ever fuck your guys's brains so you thought that i was real so in your 0.99

01:11:50.440 mind no no no one here thought you were real i'm just kidding so therefore in your reality if you 0.98

01:11:55.940 never had anything to interrupt that that would have remained real to you and forever i thought

01:11:59.760 you were real but then you were a catfish exactly you're right you're absolutely right have you guys 0.98

01:12:04.360 ever had this thought you ready for this that does this ever fuck your brains up this always slows 1.00

01:12:08.700 me down in my day other people have their own shit like there's a person in life in three 1.00

01:12:14.080 neighborhoods down you'll never fucking know who that guy is but he's either crying right now or 0.99

01:12:17.920 laughing has has a baby has it has an issue you'll never fucking know about it his life is so has so 0.80

01:12:25.040 much depth to it there's a fear there's a fomo uh no there's a fear uh it's a phobia i'm not

01:12:31.680 knowing there's yeah no there's eight billion people on this planet each with lives as vivid

01:12:35.480 as and complex as yours it's an actual fear it's terrifying what's it called i looked up what is

01:12:40.660 seven billion people with lives as complex nothing hold on i'm gonna find it he's like let's make up

01:12:46.420 the word right now no no it's me up it's something a phobia george george no matter what just don't

01:12:52.120 ever read any frederick nietzsche oh sonder his thing is definitely don't go on philosophy

01:12:58.780 it's called sonder the realization that each random passerby is living a life as vivid and

01:13:03.620 complex as your own ah what's it called sonder oh yeah that wait there's a movie right and there's

01:13:11.960 a ski it doesn't scare me it just has me ponder and then here's another one ponder sonder has

01:13:16.060 I love how these guys have their own inside jokes

01:13:21.480 We get each other 0.99

01:13:23.020 We're fucking, we're philosophers 0.99

01:13:25.480 Yes, I was saying I wanted to start a philosophy podcast 0.99

01:13:28.340 Where we just talk about

01:13:29.120 I happen to need a new podcast

01:13:32.060 I'm like this

01:13:34.340 So we can talk about current events

01:13:36.040 And different philosophers, outlooks on it

01:13:37.740 And then we can apply, what would this person think about this

01:13:39.660 I can't wait for you to start your podcast 0.99

01:13:42.080 And get shit fucking views 0.99

01:13:43.840 And I'll be here in hologram 1.00

01:13:45.420 No, I'm going to be here, too.

01:13:46.720 I'm going to be here at night.

01:13:47.740 I'm going to be doubled.

01:13:48.940 Yeah, and guess who the first guest is? 0.99

01:13:50.900 Probably like Bieber or some shit. 1.00

01:13:52.360 Whoever she could bring all the fucking big stars, dude. 0.99

01:13:54.500 And listen, I'm going to still be here. 0.98

01:13:55.760 We're going to do our philosophy pocket.

01:13:56.740 Whatever, bro.

01:13:57.260 All right.

01:13:58.000 All right, that's all we got.

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