Impaulsive with Logan Paul - E262 James Fox Reveals Most Compelling Alien Evidence Ever

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00:02:12.280 July of 69, when they went to the moon, and I'm telling you, this is just what Faye Ann Potter told me personally.

00:02:17.260 And that was, they saw something that followed them to the moon.

00:02:20.480 Did not say anything about anything on the moon, nothing on the moon, but it was something that followed them to the moon.

00:02:29.140 y'all ready for this

00:02:38.640 I think we're opening the show 0.98

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00:02:44.480 hey Dylan could you kindly move out of the way 0.95

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00:03:20.180 No, they were not having it.

00:03:21.880 I don't understand.

00:03:23.540 Maybe because they understand my feelings.

00:03:25.160 No, stop.

00:03:25.680 Don't say that because they're going to believe you

00:03:27.280 I don't know how many times we have to go through this exercise

00:03:30.300 With the third co-host

00:03:31.480 Where it's like

00:03:32.820 They're being so mean to him again

00:03:35.420 George stop

00:03:37.660 I didn't even open my mouth 0.99

00:03:40.380 On the last fucking show 1.00

00:03:41.420 And they're like he's such a fucking motherfucker 1.00

00:03:43.400 If I see him I'll kill him 1.00

00:03:44.900 Yeah you were way low energy 1.00

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00:04:05.460 today. I can't believe it.

00:04:07.100 Listen, I'm not so sure they want to hear

00:04:09.420 anything. I think they're sick of all of it.

00:04:11.900 Look, I think they'd prefer we just all

00:04:13.320 just sit here and just look at the cameras with blank

00:04:15.280 blank stares on our faces. Yeah, we are pretty

00:04:17.380 good looking. Texas opened up.

00:04:19.300 Texas is open. Wide open. Completely.

00:04:21.620 Just fuck it. COVID no longer 1.00

00:04:23.540 exists. Wide open. Right?

00:04:24.620 Correct me if I'm wrong

00:04:26.080 No restrictions

00:04:27.660 None

00:04:28.640 No masks

00:04:29.400 Back to normal life

00:04:31.300 Wait really?

00:04:32.480 Yes

00:04:32.840 We should go visit and see how it is

00:04:34.400 Dude I watch movies where people walk around normally

00:04:36.840 But it's like

00:04:38.320 Well how can you just decide

00:04:39.720 Was it the governor who's like

00:04:42.260 Nah we're probably done with the virus

00:04:43.400 It was Newsom actually

00:04:44.360 He called him

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00:04:48.040 Could you guys do this?

00:04:49.380 So his name is Texas Governor Greg Abbott

00:04:53.400 Texas Governor Greg Abbott, he said, I just announced Texas Open 100% everything.

00:04:58.140 I also ended the statewide mask mandate.

00:05:00.320 And someone in the comments said, yeah, man, because anybody was wearing masks there anyway.

00:05:03.660 He's like, what did you actually just do?

00:05:05.700 Hey, but he tweeted that.

00:05:07.300 So you don't even have to pass legislation and laws now, huh?

00:05:10.300 You can just do it on Twitter?

00:05:11.880 That's cool.

00:05:12.540 I think that's how it works.

00:05:14.360 He just tweeted it.

00:05:15.360 Y'all are free to go about your lives.

00:05:18.020 Everybody favors it.

00:05:19.100 Somebody in the comments said

00:05:21.040 Having one state that does this

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00:05:24.800 Is like having a 0.98

00:05:25.920 Piss in this area only section of the pool

00:05:29.080 Like you can only pee in this area of the pool

00:05:31.820 That is hilarious

00:05:33.580 Well if it was that funny 0.99

00:05:35.080 Wouldn't you have fucking laughed 0.99

00:05:35.940 Yo no bullying 0.99

00:05:38.000 You're mean to me

00:05:40.520 I'm hurt

00:05:41.640 I feel like I'm an alien here

00:05:44.440 And I don't actually get along with you guys

00:05:46.420 I like what you're doing

00:05:47.180 But it's too early because I have one more thing

00:05:48.640 But nobody wants to hear it.

00:05:49.960 No, they might want to.

00:05:52.500 No bullying.

00:05:53.300 We'll come back.

00:05:53.760 No bullying, Georgie.

00:05:54.900 That hurt.

00:05:55.320 That one hurt me.

00:05:56.040 You're stinging mic.

00:05:56.740 You hurt me.

00:05:57.360 What you got?

00:05:58.220 I see Aaron Carter pulled up on your Google.

00:06:00.640 That's what you...

00:06:01.540 This is making me nervous.

00:06:03.260 I got a text message from Adam22 last night.

00:06:05.580 Oh, no.

00:06:05.880 Not like this.

00:06:06.740 He said...

00:06:07.440 Not like this.

00:06:08.500 Aaron Carter...

00:06:08.920 Does he have my chain?

00:06:09.760 He said...

00:06:10.220 Yeah, he was wearing it.

00:06:11.520 He was wearing the impulsive.

00:06:12.420 You're lying.

00:06:13.320 He was.

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00:06:15.940 Aaron Carter went on Adam22's show. 0.99

00:06:17.980 Adam said first and foremost Adam 22 is the biggest shit starter I've ever met like beyond 0.98

00:06:23.580 anybody else like he he does this on purpose but he said oh well Aaron Carter just went in on Jake 0.98

00:06:29.160 and Logan so bad tried to get him to talk about your breakup he didn't really bite I'm like yeah

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00:06:38.180 you're a sick fuck when's it going out he said next week but supposedly Aaron Carter had a lot 0.99

00:06:44.060 to say about you and little brother jakey and he was rocking the impulsive chain with impunity 1.00

00:06:48.160 dog so crazy so is he a fan or a hater can you do that you know what i'm saying that's like that's 0.99

00:06:54.040 like talking shit and wearing our merch like you're endorsing us but then talking no no no no no no it's 1.00

00:06:59.020 not it he it's like rock it's like wearing some chain you robbed off a rapper you don't fuck but 1.00

00:07:03.760 it says like he jacked that shit off you it's no i gave it to him nah and it says this how much 0.99

00:07:09.920 earned media is that well he popped your chain you didn't do shit about it in the streets bro 1.00

00:07:14.160 you said you said aaron carter you wear that it's yours now just don't hurt me i heard you i was 0.73

00:07:18.840 there dude i just didn't want to get involved i didn't want to get involved he was supposed to

00:07:22.760 box uh lamar odom i saw for like a split oh yeah that's right i saw that's aaron carter versus

00:07:29.160 aaron carter versus lamar odom strange times texas is open i want to show a trailer here

00:07:36.820 regarding uh the guest's work so this is a very exciting episode could be a pretty eerie episode

00:07:44.600 depending on what angle you view it through but uh we're gonna play this documentary uh trailer

00:07:50.620 right here for a movie a film called the phenomenon check this out and then i'm gonna bring the guest

00:07:55.860 on this is his work watch okay watch are you watching go ahead watch now i knew this was

00:08:00.640 breaking news for the front page of the new york times my gosh

00:08:04.200 look at that thing we need to accept that we are not alone in the universe

00:08:11.900 the federal government all these years has covered up everything it's very very bad for our country

00:08:20.480 there have been visitation crashed craft material recovered it was not anything

00:08:27.140 from this earth all i could do is keep a mouth shut

00:08:30.020 the public has a right to know there's a tremendous resistance i guarantee every one

00:08:37.520 of them knows that this event happened hiding these dark secrets even from elected presidents

00:08:44.300 they came running up here in such a panic john can't make that up declassified government

00:08:51.740 documents confirm ongoing ufo incursions at nuclear weapons sites are you saying that there's some

00:08:58.600 evidence that still hasn't seen the light of day i'm saying most of it hasn't seen the light of day

00:09:04.180 these things are real they're here this is happening now

00:09:09.400 our guest today is a ufo expert and director of the groundbreaking documentary the phenomenon

00:09:18.240 which features high-ranking government officials speaking on what many of us to believe to be true

00:09:22.440 the alien spacecraft exist and have been visiting us for years he's brought with him never before

00:09:27.580 scene materials please welcome James Fox this is nutty this is probably the most I've ever been

00:09:37.020 excited yeah he's got he's got the secrets potentially even the secret to the universe

00:09:41.940 what is it how did we get here welcome to impulsive James oh thanks so much for having me on you guys

00:09:47.180 it's exciting of course so we've had a we've got a ufo expert on before dr. Greer whom I'm sure

00:09:53.300 you're familiar with right i am and i'll just say it i loved dr greer and his entourage and he showed

00:09:59.340 us some things that were pretty uh interesting to say the least he was convinced he had a picture

00:10:03.660 of an alien kind of kind of looked like lights kind of looked like lights and you know he left

00:10:10.860 and i was like yeah i'm acutely aware of that my own father was like son what are you doing so

00:10:18.760 you cannot discuss anything that you can't prove in a court of law so you could have your personal

00:10:26.220 beliefs but if you're going to go public with stuff you better be prepared to back it up with

00:10:31.140 facts or enough compelling evidence to sway a jury in a court of law and that's what i do

00:10:35.700 yeah and and and that's why i think your film uh is as world renowned as it is because you had a

00:10:42.660 lot of testimonials from high-ranking government officials the evidence that you speak of um and

00:10:47.300 And, you know, Dr. Rear, they do they do the CE5 where they summon aliens and they can meditate and stuff.

00:10:55.460 And I guess what I'm saying is, like, I just don't know if I if I bought it, you know, and your stuff seems a bit more grounded in reality.

00:11:04.500 Even, you know, this bit of the many articles have been written on you.

00:11:08.840 This one here says it's from The Cut says the headline is my favorite hot UFO.

00:11:14.160 while ufologist has a new documentary so and and so you you do seem a little more just grounded

00:11:20.380 and hot you know so are you hot because you are looking for ufos or are you looking for ufos

00:11:27.420 because you're hot you know i'm hot on the trail no honestly you guys i am just joe public that

00:11:35.820 decided to do something about a potentially huge story and i picked up a camera years and years ago

00:11:41.340 back in my 20s and i started to say i'm gonna make i'm gonna get to the bottom of this i'm

00:11:46.120 gonna find out what's going on you know and i started going to conferences listening to military

00:11:50.100 guys and um here i am all these years later four and a half films later um i've done some of the

00:11:57.020 most uh what are considered some of the most credible civilian efforts for to push for

00:12:01.200 government transparency and um i'm no closer to the truth today than i was 25 years ago i know

00:12:08.880 I know, but I can tell you is that there are clearly structured craft of unknown origin

00:12:15.280 whizzing around with impunity, and every government official will confirm that beyond a shadow

00:12:19.420 of doubt, but anybody who says they know exactly what's going on is full of doggy doo-doo. 0.95

00:12:24.520 I'll tell you that right now, but you do the process of elimination if it's not the Russians,

00:12:30.320 if it's not the Japanese, if it's not the Chinese, if it's no other, like, superpower.

00:12:34.480 Yeah, the Swedish.

00:12:35.700 I knew it. 1.00

00:12:36.340 They were too quiet for too long.

00:12:38.880 You know, the possible elimination will tell you, all right, clearly there's something otherworldly taking place.

00:12:44.920 Who are they? Where do they come from? What do they want?

00:12:47.200 And that process of elimination excites a lot of people.

00:12:49.580 It does.

00:12:50.120 It excites me a lot.

00:12:51.440 Me too.

00:12:52.160 I can tell. I can tell.

00:12:53.240 But your specialty, correct me if I'm wrong, is not so much extraterrestrial, other interplanetary life so much as it is unidentifiable flying objects, correct? UFOs.

00:13:05.700 Yeah, so I've made a couple of other films.

00:13:08.260 I did a film out of the blue, did a second version of it out of the blue director's cut, and then I did a film called I Know What I Saw.

00:13:13.840 And I never, during the production of those films, touched on what are reported as close encounters of the third kind.

00:13:20.560 So the very guy who investigated UFOs for the United States Air Force, whose name was Dr. Jalen Hynek, and he was a scientific advisor to the Air Force from 1947 to 69.

00:13:30.840 And I don't know at what stage, maybe it was in the 50s, he was like, all right, we're going to classify UFO encounters into three categories.

00:13:38.260 Close encounter of the first kind, somebody says, hey, I saw a UFO.

00:13:42.400 Close encounter of the second kind, hey, I saw a UFO, and this UFO interacted with the environment.

00:13:47.220 Maybe it burned someone's face, maybe it left marks on the ground, maybe it was photographed or picked up on radar.

00:13:52.760 Close encounter of the third kind is when witnesses claim to see occupants associated with the craft.

00:13:58.440 That's some next-level stuff, because there's one thing to identify a craft in the air and beans on the ground.

00:14:03.760 Do you know what I mean?

00:14:04.440 Yeah. So this is the first film I've done where I've I've delved into Close Encounters of the Third Kind because I felt like it was a really slippery slope, you know, especially the fact that I'm dealing with high level government and military officials.

00:14:17.140 I thought they're going to run for the hills when they found out I deal.

00:14:19.280 I you know, I talk about a UFO landing in Africa where the occupants get out and reportedly interact telepathically with all these children.

00:14:25.660 And I mean, it's a pretty out there story, right?

00:14:28.420 Like a UFO lands at a school in broad daylight and and gets out of the craft at 1030 in the morning and they interact telepathically with a handful of kids.

00:14:37.040 Do you know about this story in Zimbabwe? 0.52

00:14:39.040 This is nutty. 1.00

00:14:40.940 I know it's nutty.

00:14:41.880 I know it's nutty.

00:14:42.600 It's your new favorite word, by the way.

00:14:43.880 They commented nutty.

00:14:45.160 That's all I'm saying. 0.88

00:14:46.920 Bloody man.

00:14:47.700 This is nutty.

00:14:48.520 But I know to everybody out there listening to this, I totally get your reaction to it.

00:14:53.680 Because when I first heard about it, I heard about it through Steven Spielberg back in the late 90s

00:14:57.700 because I was making my first talk on UFOs.

00:15:00.920 And I thought I was just naive enough to think that Steven Spielberg would give me an interview.

00:15:05.240 We had a mutual friend in common, and she gets back to me, and she's like,

00:15:08.200 yeah, Spielberg's not going to meet with you.

00:15:10.200 But since you're doing a documentary on UFOs, he wants you to know about this close encounter of the third kind.

00:15:15.220 And he thinks it's one of the most compelling cases in the world.

00:15:17.460 And it took place at a school in Africa.

00:15:19.340 And I said to myself, yeah, right.

00:15:21.300 you mean to tell me that a ufo landed at a school in broad daylight and the occupants got out and

00:15:25.860 interacted with the kids and the whole world doesn't know about it no way jose and i just like

00:15:30.240 kept on and didn't even look into it so i get your perspective i get the knee-jerk reaction but i'm

00:15:36.120 telling you i have this i have this challenge it's called the chicken parmesan challenge if you

00:15:42.820 or anybody watches my my movie and they see that scene at the end of the landing and interaction

00:15:47.740 with all the kids the archive footage and the and the footage of them today and you don't believe

00:15:51.940 that that event happened chicken parmigiana dinner if you're vegetarian i give you eggplant eggplant

00:15:56.200 parmigiana on me can you execute on all those dinners that's like it could be a lot of that's

00:16:01.660 how convincing it is that's how convincing but but also another question along you you talk about it

00:16:06.160 seeming nutty or or incredible or people you know being blown away by it never before have i seen a

00:16:12.220 time like right now where the government and the mainstream were also starting to embrace the

00:16:19.640 conversation around this potentially being something that could be proven what is it over

00:16:24.240 the past two to three years that has changed to make government officials start to step up and

00:16:31.780 say yo we we kind of want this stuff to start getting out there too front page of the new york

00:16:36.000 times december 2017 that was the revelation of a secret pentagon ufo program atip advanced

00:16:43.080 aerospace threat identification program and they released evidence and then they released evidence

00:16:47.740 that was taken in official capacity from the navy from the cockpits of these fighter jets and then

00:16:52.820 the testimonials of these highly trained fighter pilots interacting in broad daylight in pursuing

00:16:58.400 an egg-shaped craft with no wings the tic-tac right the tic-tac no well the tic-tac is crazy

00:17:04.100 because I was investigating a 1964 landing case in Socorro, New Mexico.

00:17:08.580 It was a close encounter of the third kind, Beans reported, with a police officer.

00:17:12.720 And back in 64, he described it as an egg.

00:17:15.640 And I was thinking to myself, when were Tic Tacs invented?

00:17:17.800 Because if it was before 64, then hmm, but after 64, he might have said Tic Tac.

00:17:22.560 I don't know.

00:17:23.220 But anyway, the same thing was seen in, was it 2004 off the coast of San Diego?

00:17:27.320 So, no wings, no tail, no visible means of propulsion, no exhaust ports, no sound to

00:17:35.900 be heard of that could accelerate from a standstill to out of sight in the blink of an eye, right

00:17:41.920 angle turns at high speeds, it would go from sea level to 80,000 feet in less than a second.

00:17:46.580 A second, right?

00:17:47.160 Less than a second.

00:17:47.820 Yeah.

00:17:48.100 And then stop above the water.

00:17:50.040 It's just impossible.

00:17:50.940 We don't have that technology.

00:17:51.960 So, we went from, what was it, like 60,000 feet?

00:17:54.380 80,000 feet.

00:17:54.680 80,000 feet.

00:17:55.300 Yes.

00:17:55.480 to 10 feet above sea level in the blink of an eye like that it's not so i want to i want to dive

00:18:00.420 into all these stories like one by one and we're kind of just going yeah sorry so let's let's

00:18:05.160 rewind a little bit sorry i'm getting a little carried away no it's all good it's exciting it's

00:18:09.280 we were at my ranch uh the past two days and we went out and when you look at the sky and the

00:18:14.100 stars there are so visible because there's no light pollution it's so hard to not feel like

00:18:19.780 there could be something else going on in the universe you know and one day it's on my bucket

00:18:24.040 list i'm planning on seeing a ufo so maybe it'll happen but i want to i want to dive into this uh

00:18:29.360 this story about the the school in zimbabwe yes um correct me if i'm wrong this is uh unreleased

00:18:35.080 no i've never i've never released this footage this particular footage of the general public

00:18:39.200 in any promotional stuff i've done great this is part of the film but i've never made it public

00:18:42.940 this is an impulsive exclusive here we go i put it together just for you thank you bro

00:18:47.840 Dozens of children said that one or more of the disc-shaped objects

00:18:52.440 landed just beyond the far edge of their playground.

00:18:58.820 The next thing they knew, something was standing next to it.

00:19:04.020 We saw him standing by the silver thing, and he had big eyes.

00:19:11.940 He had a big head and big black eyes,

00:19:15.960 and was dressed in a black bodysuit they were trying to communicate trying to tell us something

00:19:23.320 was something to do with the environment i kept getting these thoughts and ideas in my mind of

00:19:28.360 technology technology is not helping technology is bad i believe that the children did see something

00:19:37.880 i believe them because normally children don't lie and if you saw him again what would you do

00:19:45.240 i'll ask him what is he doing and what does he want with us

00:19:52.120 wow that's that's crazy that's eerie eerie because she made the comment kids don't lie

00:19:58.760 kids understand the concept of of fibbing especially in with independently corroborated

00:20:04.280 stories i get goosebumps still to this day after spending over six years investigating this case

00:20:09.320 it just gives me the goosebumps when i see that because you know those kids aren't lying right

00:20:13.160 Is there a chance

00:20:14.160 It was a YouTube prank

00:20:15.040 YouTube

00:20:15.560 I swear to God

00:20:16.340 I swear to God

00:20:16.960 When I was growing up

00:20:17.840 It was 1994

00:20:18.820 Okay

00:20:19.440 Is anybody concerned

00:20:21.900 That the fact

00:20:22.580 That he was warning us

00:20:23.980 That technology isn't good

00:20:25.140 Is he trying to warn us

00:20:26.260 That we're gonna kill ourselves

00:20:26.920 I found that claim 0.65

00:20:28.460 To be

00:20:29.660 Very scary

00:20:30.520 I found it to be

00:20:32.580 A little absurd

00:20:33.260 Because if a guy

00:20:33.960 Coming down in a craft

00:20:35.220 That can like

00:20:36.520 Do anything right 1.00

00:20:37.280 Go fucking 0.99

00:20:37.820 80,000 feet in the air 0.99

00:20:38.840 In a second

00:20:39.280 Disappear

00:20:39.900 Go 90 degree turns

00:20:41.040 And he's like

00:20:41.780 Technology is bad

00:20:42.780 but like let me pop in my machine i can do anything at any time and anywhere but what if

00:20:46.640 on their planet tech that was like the start of their technology and then they saw technology grow

00:20:52.220 grow grow until the point the planet was reduced to ashes and now they fly around on what they have

00:20:56.420 left of technology and they're giving us a warning yo watch your technology be careful of it craziest

00:21:02.920 thing about that to me the kids and the current push of military it's not the what that's happening

00:21:10.220 it's not the crazy crafts it's not the guy with the eyes because we've heard those stories

00:21:13.840 it's the who is telling the story the kids that don't lie the military people in the past

00:21:20.180 stories about aliens have always been told by very high people sitting around lava lamps

00:21:26.480 one eye is slightly looking in a different direction than the other like now you have

00:21:33.700 highly trained naval pilots shout out go navy yeah pilots right flying jets like these people

00:21:40.580 are very smart people talking about these stories and kids that have no reason to lie about it so

00:21:45.800 that is what's most shocking to me about the entire story do you do you agree the amount of

00:21:52.080 children i think 66 of them went on camera for this guy dr john mack who was a harvard psychiatrist

00:21:57.640 and he uh with the backing of lawrence spellman rockefeller at the time because he's he's at

00:22:03.060 Harvard, and he's looking into this phenomenon, which was a lot less accepted then than it is

00:22:07.640 today. And he went and brought a camera crew and documented, there were 100 witnesses, but 66 of

00:22:13.640 them went on camera. And then, of course, you know, 20 years later, they're all saying the same thing.

00:22:17.760 But a quick little side note, which is kind of interesting, is that Harvard, because of his

00:22:22.200 looking into the phenomenon and close encounters of the third kind, they fired him. And Lawrence

00:22:28.340 Spellman Rockefeller called Harvard University, who was backing the guy at the time, and he said,

00:22:32.760 You guys like those Harvard grants that you get from the Rockefeller Institute?

00:22:37.220 Yeah, those are going to be gone if he loses his job.

00:22:39.640 And so they're like, okay, he's back on the job now.

00:22:43.000 So that Harvard psychiatrist that flew to Africa, yeah, he ended up getting hit by a car.

00:22:47.680 He looked the wrong way, unfortunately.

00:22:48.900 London.

00:22:49.980 It wasn't a big conspiracy.

00:22:51.220 He just looked the wrong way.

00:22:52.700 Are you sure?

00:22:53.800 Yeah.

00:22:54.320 Where is he from?

00:22:55.760 Well, it was Harvard.

00:22:57.320 America.

00:22:57.920 Yeah, America.

00:22:58.420 So wait, just let me clarify this.

00:22:59.640 A man who went to the most amazing school in the world

00:23:02.780 Couldn't stop, look, and listen

00:23:04.040 Hold on a second

00:23:04.940 I've done it almost

00:23:06.920 They go the opposite way

00:23:08.140 Oh, that's true

00:23:08.920 I've almost done it

00:23:10.940 I've almost done it in London

00:23:12.020 I'm dead ass serious 0.71

00:23:13.180 That's insane 0.92

00:23:15.140 George, you're funny

00:23:16.580 You are

00:23:17.300 Yeah, you are funny

00:23:18.060 And we both love you very much

00:23:19.440 Of the many questions I have

00:23:21.040 Of the many questions I have

00:23:23.020 Why a school in Zimbabwe 1.00

00:23:26.220 Like, why are they always in these, like, remote locations that don't really make –

00:23:30.780 like, why Roswell?

00:23:32.780 Why Zimbabwe School?

00:23:34.600 Why – there's that doc on Netflix right now somewhere in, like, the middle of nowhere.

00:23:40.720 I think I can answer that question pretty well.

00:23:42.920 I mean, this is going to be speculation, but can I show you something?

00:23:45.680 I'd love to see anything.

00:23:47.540 So this is interesting.

00:23:48.480 So you guys have to remember that –

00:23:51.220 It's a satchel.

00:23:51.700 Yeah, I know, my little satchel here.

00:23:53.460 You have to remember that we take a fairly hostile position, the military does, for anything that's unidentified in our airspace,

00:23:59.940 particularly if it's over sensitive nuclear weapons facilities.

00:24:03.260 So dating back to – and I'll get to your question, I promise.

00:24:06.560 Cool.

00:24:06.700 This is interesting.

00:24:07.400 I've given this a lot of thought.

00:24:08.800 I've got some really cool stuff to share with you guys.

00:24:10.960 That looks exactly how I thought it would look.

00:24:14.060 You know what I mean?

00:24:14.860 I was thinking of saying it.

00:24:16.200 I love you, man.

00:24:17.120 I got you a phenomenon.

00:24:18.240 I was made by my 20-year-old nephew.

00:24:20.260 Oh, fantastic.

00:24:20.720 and he hand printed those for you guys what's his name now what size what size is an extra large

00:24:26.360 and a large like doubt like the dow jones uh yeah wow yeah he made them he was so excited

00:24:31.300 when i was coming on your show so he wanted you guys to have those these are phenomenal

00:24:35.200 oh thank you yeah so this is really interesting because in 1952 and i'll get to this i promise

00:24:43.340 you i'll get to this in a second so in 1952 we were taking a fairly hostile approach towards

00:24:49.480 any unidentified or unknown in the airspace.

00:24:52.700 Of course.

00:24:53.240 To the point where there was an incursion

00:24:55.340 over the White House and the Capitol building,

00:24:57.480 we talk about it in the film,

00:24:59.160 with UFOs over two consecutive weekends

00:25:01.760 in July of 1952.

00:25:04.060 They were shooting at these UFOs.

00:25:08.000 They were actively given the authority

00:25:10.080 to engage and shoot at them, yes.

00:25:12.660 And there was some testimony

00:25:13.740 from extremely credible people

00:25:15.160 that one of them was successfully shot

00:25:17.000 and some of the debris fell to the ground

00:25:18.560 and was recovered.

00:25:19.480 This, I got this very document from the Truman Library, and it was unknown on the Internet.

00:25:27.060 I'd heard it existed, but it's a very concerned civilian from the Rocket Society

00:25:32.960 who's contacting President the White House, President Truman at the time,

00:25:37.000 saying, please do not engage on any of our behalf in aggressive behavior

00:25:42.640 towards what could be an extraterrestrial presence trying to make contact with us.

00:25:46.620 Why are you shooting at these people?

00:25:48.180 This is the original telegram from 1952

00:25:51.180 You can read part of it

00:25:52.040 But you know the why

00:25:53.440 So 1952, the beginning of the Cold War

00:25:55.880 Correct? 0.78

00:25:56.740 We're actively in a major issue with Russia 0.96

00:26:00.320 Everybody is on edge 1.00

00:26:01.700 We're waiting for atomic warfare

00:26:04.280 And nuclear winter

00:26:05.620 And so tensions are already extremely high

00:26:08.100 In the country at that point

00:26:09.100 Can I read this?

00:26:10.900 Please, yes

00:26:11.920 I got this from the Truman Library

00:26:14.520 the president the white house i respectfully suggest that no offensive action be taken

00:26:22.240 against the objects reported as unidentified which have been cited over our nation

00:26:25.940 stop should they be extraterrestrial such action might result in the gravest consequences as well

00:26:31.500 as possible alienating us from beings of far superior powers stop friendly contact should 0.97

00:26:36.600 be sought as long as possible stop that kind of sounds like he was fucked up man well no because 0.97

00:26:42.860 to stop is a telegram so it's telling you to stop you're not supposed to read that part okay 0.96

00:26:47.540 so anyway so so in the middle of doing my gp so in the middle of doing this research i started

00:26:58.780 hearing about these landing cases at schools and i was like come on i just can't believe that

00:27:03.120 school landings could be happening and that the whole world not no i just couldn't wrap my mind

00:27:07.920 around it so there was another case that happened in in australia in 1966 it's the westall primary

00:27:14.100 school there were 350 witnesses on that case 10 30 in the morning broad daylight ufo over the school

00:27:20.280 every single student including the teachers out there looking at this thing in broad daylight

00:27:24.100 and then it lands just outside of the school playground and a bunch of kids jump the fence

00:27:29.200 against the will of the uh you know the teachers like stop total mayhem and they run out and they

00:27:34.700 come within 10 feet of this object sitting on the ground okay at a school so i'm thinking to myself

00:27:39.760 and then you got the africa case there was cases in france there's cases in england if you were

00:27:44.280 and i'm just saying i'm just speculation here but if you were wanting to make contact you get shot

00:27:50.120 at when you're interacting with the military you have a fairly benign presence with children

00:27:55.120 i'm just saying maybe maybe there are lots of cases that have happened where contact was made

00:28:01.820 with children because children aren't going to shoot at you i'm buying it and they're open so

00:28:06.100 again i like that i like that i love it yeah so i'm just saying like this is something that i've

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00:29:27.000 program but but why we're on the children i've never shared these publicly and i don't know why

00:29:31.440 these didn't make it in the film this is great because i'm an idiot so these are these are

00:29:35.840 witnesses these were drawn by the witnesses as children as adults in the africa case of what

00:29:41.720 they saw and i got more yeah why do they always look like this i have no idea i really don't have

00:29:48.440 any idea guys well is it potentially because that's what they look like the original that's

00:29:52.340 the original bro i can feel the crayons i know i know you're ruining it

00:29:56.340 if you have you i listen if you had me draw pictures of aliens without ever having seen them

00:30:03.420 i draw the same thing you know what i'm saying but those are the those are the people that were

00:30:09.580 actually in the playground at the time did they do this as as adults or kids yeah uh i had them

00:30:15.620 well i featured the adult sorry the children's drawings and then those were adult as adults

00:30:20.400 they've had time to process it 20 years to think about it but it's just like it's just crazy stuff

00:30:25.920 right hang on i got more in here just so you know really quick this would make a great nft

00:30:29.640 like i mean absolutely incredible the shading's great speaking of which in the description we're

00:30:34.460 going to drop a link to the nfd i got my little goodie bag here this is great so there's a couple

00:30:39.780 more here i'm a different person though yep all right oh so he had a mohawk they got style

00:30:45.520 He looks upset

00:30:47.880 That's not hair bro, that's beam

00:30:49.800 He was beaming

00:30:51.020 Why are sometimes there's two and why are sometimes there's one

00:30:55.340 You know, some of the witnesses said they saw two

00:30:57.980 Some of them saw one

00:30:59.380 I really couldn't tell you

00:31:00.600 Which is it?

00:31:01.240 I know

00:31:01.600 Yes, yes

00:31:03.840 And then this one is from a woman named Emily

00:31:08.100 Oh, were they big? 0.89

00:31:11.340 Emily snapped 0.96

00:31:12.160 This one's fire

00:31:14.320 okay okay so Emily saw two and somehow Emily was so acting as a drone so this

00:31:19.840 isn't another another at a bird's-eye view looks like a concert don't forget

00:31:24.160 about the chicken parmigiana challenge guys I know cuz everyone's going oh come

00:31:27.460 on this landing happy day in Africa my just offer chicken parm to people watch

00:31:31.400 it we're not but but uh one thing I want to say if you see these this is one

00:31:38.580 thing that explained to me see these logs yeah so those logs define the outer

00:31:43.840 perimeter of the playground and the children because they was explaining me

00:31:47.740 from the head mattress Judy Bates that the children were not allowed to go play

00:31:52.060 beyond that those logs because the grasses weren't cut there are dangerous

00:31:56.500 snakes in the grass and this sort of thing and so the children what they've

00:31:59.440 been children would go to the logs and they would skip and dance along the logs

00:32:02.560 and some of the witnesses told me and I don't know why this didn't end up in the

00:32:05.920 film we just have to be kind of brutal when it comes to cutting things out that

00:32:09.460 that one of the children noticed that the beings were joyfully and playfully dancing along the

00:32:16.020 children on those logs, mimicking their behavior along those logs. Yeah, I know. Isn't that crazy?

00:32:22.240 Yeah, I know. Very benign, very playful, very curious. They said, I was like, God, put me there.

00:32:28.700 I want to be there so badly. When I brought all the children together 20 years later as adults,

00:32:32.180 I just said, you guys experienced something so rare and so magical. Could you please like put

00:32:37.540 me there i want to be there and so they're like you know have you ever been out in the middle of

00:32:43.300 nowhere like really remote area and you come across you have a sighting with a with a wild

00:32:48.360 animal and uh there's this moment of intrigue and curiosity like to sort of stand off where you

00:32:53.780 looking at each other you're both equally curious it's very like a friendly encounter but the

00:32:58.980 curiosity right like you're both checking each other out is this person dangerous is this and

00:33:03.540 they said that's what it was like like time would stop and they were just as bewildered and and and

00:33:08.800 puzzled by what they were looking at as the beans were with the children so they're like they're

00:33:13.200 like children in their own right do you think hollywood gave uh aliens a bad rap because like

00:33:18.500 i think back to mars attacks right you remember those ones that take the dog's head off put it

00:33:23.680 on the human's body human on the dog's body nice do you think that uh do you think that they're 0.54

00:33:28.420 common here to eliminate us no i think look by their observed technology if they were here to

00:33:34.280 do us harm believe me we would know it and i've asked that question to military guys all around

00:33:38.980 the world about that and i can tell you a little bit about the why the secrecy because everyone's

00:33:43.320 like why would any government hide this from the general public it's the like you know the biggest

00:33:49.720 question in the universe are we alone yeah i mean everybody wants to know that question right

00:33:53.660 and the military guys look at me and they go dude we don't think that way you have to understand

00:33:58.260 how the military thinks and i've got interviews with generals in france and belgium and brazil

00:34:03.780 and russia and china all tell me the same thing they said look at it this way and this will make

00:34:09.840 perfectly good sense i think to your to your audience when there's objects of unknown origin

00:34:15.260 whizzing around with impunity in your airspace and they fly rings around your fastest jets and

00:34:20.340 you don't know who they are where they come from and what they want you can't expose what you know

00:34:26.160 without exposing your vulnerabilities and what you don't know.

00:34:29.540 So to them, they couldn't care less about philosophical implications

00:34:33.140 of are we alone in the universe.

00:34:34.260 To them, it's a problem.

00:34:35.720 Yeah, they don't know who they are.

00:34:37.180 They can't be like, oh, by the way, this is happening.

00:34:40.560 They're shutting off our nukes.

00:34:41.600 They're doing this.

00:34:42.300 They're landing.

00:34:42.780 Stop right there.

00:34:44.660 Yeah.

00:34:45.980 This is the biggest part of the film.

00:34:47.500 Yeah.

00:34:48.380 What are the aliens doing with our nukes and our nuclear facilities?

00:34:51.480 I heard they turned them off and on as a joke once, like a YouTube prank.

00:34:57.640 Yeah, I know.

00:34:58.460 It's crazy.

00:34:58.940 With nukes.

00:34:59.540 So I had the distinct honor of meeting with former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid,

00:35:05.320 and it was towards the end of production.

00:35:06.780 I'd been involved in the film probably at about the six-year mark at that point.

00:35:11.320 And we did the interview.

00:35:13.560 It was a great interview.

00:35:14.360 He revealed some startling revelations on camera with me.

00:35:17.840 and and uh he's he's like hey just so you know i've got about 48 minutes to meet with you and

00:35:22.440 then i'm out of there i was like all right i get it so why that number specifically you know he was

00:35:26.860 very precise like and he showed up for he showed up like 10 seconds before the interview and left

00:35:30.840 like right on time he was out there he had a busy schedule so anyway about two or three minutes

00:35:35.780 before the end of the interview i thought god i really need a b-roll shot of the two of us walking

00:35:39.400 sort of an establishing shot so i was like senator um would you mind terribly would you have a minute

00:35:44.020 we could do a quick b-roll shot and of course being a politician he knew exactly what i was

00:35:47.080 talking about he goes sure so we go to the hallway we're walking down the hallway together and the

00:35:50.840 security details like checking me out and i get too close to him it was kind of weird and um i said

00:35:56.640 well i might as well take advantage of these two minutes walking with senator reed in the hallway

00:35:59.860 i said if you don't mind me asking and he spearheaded this secret pentagon ufo program

00:36:04.760 called atep that was lasted roughly 10 years i said what was one of the more astonishing aspects

00:36:09.540 that you guys uncovered at this pentagon program and without hesitation he goes not just the fact

00:36:15.200 that these uaps unidentified aerial phenomenon are penetrating super sensitive nuclear weapons

00:36:21.180 facilities all around the world but in some instances they're shutting them off and he said

00:36:27.100 in a couple cases if the president wanted to launch he couldn't have launched and i was like 0.96

00:36:32.540 holy shit like wow coming from him like the third most powerful man like he would have been you know

00:36:39.620 so i was like i have to cover that aspect of the phenomenon in the film i went back to production 0.98

00:36:45.100 It's been another year. I contacted the number one researchers in the world, and I put together that National Press Club event that someone and I featured testimony, Robert Hastings, testimony after testimony after testimony from the highest level military officials exclusively responsible for the deployment of our atomic weapons, the most sensitive, all saying the same thing, and nuclear installation after installation after installation.

00:37:10.440 Which was what we're, so we specialize not in Harry Reid, but in Riley Reid.

00:37:15.100 So let's break this down a little bit for us, okay?

00:37:17.660 She was on that mic one time.

00:37:19.560 It was in her throat.

00:37:22.800 My question is this.

00:37:25.460 How do you just...

00:37:28.440 Oh, my God. 0.95

00:37:34.660 how do you draw the connection between a nuclear shutdown of a facility and aliens right because

00:37:44.460 and i'm asking this question because we know that there's a bunch of other things mostly

00:37:50.480 warring nations that are trying to do just that right with cyber warfare they're trying to we do

00:37:56.200 it to north korea all the time we just say yo your your systems are now offline we get malware

00:38:00.620 into their systems we turn it off right that's what we do on the cyber offensive and people are

00:38:05.560 doing it to us russia's doing it to us uh iran's trying to do it to us whatever right why was it

00:38:10.320 aliens that did it well i don't think they're saying aliens i think what they're saying is

00:38:15.520 you've got a sighting you know of all these military guys looking at a disc hovering over

00:38:22.060 a silo oh well that changes yeah and they're all looking at it they're picking it up on radar it's

00:38:26.660 right there and then all other systems shut off and then he just goes and shoots off and the

00:38:31.140 distance is gone and it's really funny i talked to this launch control officer colonel uh salas

00:38:36.100 and um he was so funny i realized like why this guy was a launch control officer because he was

00:38:41.620 so calm and mellow he's like yeah well uh the way i see it it's kind of like taking matches out of

00:38:50.500 the hands of a baby like i thought well that's an interesting perspective well i mean what can a

00:38:56.000 baby really do a match no way yeah i mean they're just simply maybe like a dynamite or something

00:39:02.920 um we have so much technology we have beyond radar we have cameras on every single block

00:39:09.860 probably have satellites on now now the government owns those satellites but some of the some of the

00:39:15.460 cameras are owned by john q public or corporations why have we not why do we not have a real

00:39:22.540 privately driven footage of a craft i know we have some we have some government stuff with the with

00:39:28.620 the flights with the naval flights but why don't we have some sort of video of a of a third a close

00:39:35.860 encounter with the third kind we have people that have talked about being inside ships we have talked

00:39:40.240 we have people saying they've had anal probes from aliens we have nothing we have no video where is

00:39:45.300 it okay so it's a very it's a great question by the way and that was one of the reasons why we

00:39:49.160 ended up on the front page of the new york times because some cockpit official cockpit recordings

00:39:53.740 were made of these objects coupled with eyewitness testimony coupled with radar ground radar airborne

00:39:59.400 radar but when i met with senator reed and i've been hearing about these stories of military guys

00:40:04.020 saying yeah you know we shot this footage and we hand it over to a government you know jet and it

00:40:08.440 flew it off to washington gone forever so i was talking to senator reed about this you know because

00:40:13.620 i want to know too like i'm right there with you right and i said uh you know i met with mercury

00:40:19.440 astronaut gordon cooper who's the last american astronaut to go up in space alone he's an iconic

00:40:23.700 figure of my father's generation really well-known guy and very credible and um he told me out of

00:40:29.180 account on camera it's in one of my films out of the blue he's like um there was an incident that

00:40:35.540 happened at edwards air force edwards air force base circa 1957 of a landing on the dry lake bed

00:40:40.720 in broad daylight they were filming the installation of an f-86 fighter jet runway and all of a sudden

00:40:45.900 out of nowhere this disc-shaped craft lands on the dry lake bed the guys with their cameras turned it

00:40:50.680 on the craft and they film it and it sits on the ground and then it takes off and he said he put

00:40:54.880 literally put the wheel the gear in the wheel well and shot off at an extremely high rate of speed

00:40:59.180 and it was a disc no wings no tail no visible propulsion blah blah so he gets the film footage

00:41:05.120 developed and again he's telling me all this on camera he gets the film footage developed and he

00:41:10.000 He gets higher and higher up to eventually a courier jet comes in from Washington, D.C., picks up the footage.

00:41:15.200 He said he didn't play it through the machine, but he looked at it.

00:41:18.000 He could see the disc on the ground, the developed film footage.

00:41:21.000 So I was telling the story to Senator Reid because I'd like to know where all that footage went to.

00:41:25.040 And he goes, and I said, yeah.

00:41:26.840 And then he hands the footage over to this courier jet.

00:41:28.660 And then Reid goes, and it was never seen or heard from ever again.

00:41:31.220 I went, yeah, exactly.

00:41:32.940 That's exactly right.

00:41:33.920 I go, do you know, did you guys come across this stuff?

00:41:36.120 He goes, it's all here.

00:41:37.520 It's all there.

00:41:38.320 Oh, they have it.

00:41:39.080 Yes.

00:41:39.400 he goes it's all there we have all all where all where in the government files like in the pentagon

00:41:44.200 i know so so there's nothing i'm getting to so i put together a call to action because i've been

00:41:50.820 i actually went to uh washington dc years ago and i pulled aside uh chief of staff primarily but

00:41:58.460 some congressmen some senators and i said look what is it going to take they're all do you think

00:42:02.760 this is a a career enhancing move for us to go out without the support of our constituents

00:42:07.780 to like looking at their do they know what's going i mean some of them do and some of them

00:42:12.140 hear certain things but they need to hear from the general public like hey we want more government

00:42:18.240 transparency on this topic and right before i came on the show i talked with lou elizondo who

00:42:23.780 was the director of the of the secret pentagon ufo program and i said hey i'm going on this show he

00:42:28.660 goes great he goes i think one of the reasons why we're getting as much traction today is because

00:42:33.620 the newer generation are much more open to this they haven't been jaded with all the other crap

00:42:38.860 that's gone down the pike in the last 50 years so he thinks that they an informed public is much 0.76

00:42:45.860 more difficult to pull the walk the wool over their eyes so i have a call to action on the

00:42:49.840 website i got contacted by this 22 year old law student and she's like hey i saw your movie it

00:42:54.820 was amazing what can i do i said well i'm thinking about putting together a call to action where you

00:42:58.840 can just literally go on my site click the I've got the the text already written this woman Karina

00:43:04.560 put it out and you click it to your to your congressman your senator because the more people

00:43:08.400 they hear from us that footage does exist I know a footage right now of stuff that came out of the

00:43:13.600 ocean that was photographed last year I've talked to you know Christopher Mellon and Lou Elizondo

00:43:17.580 we know these things exist and we want it out to the general public but they need to hear from us

00:43:22.280 sorry I'm rambling no I was just gonna ask one quick scary question okay please you talk to Harry

00:43:27.820 reed who's who's you would call maybe third in charge right yeah he's pretty high level and then

00:43:31.620 and you go all the way up to the president right yes the issue that stands here is that those in

00:43:38.700 the know know that there are some people above those three yes literally like when when the

00:43:45.360 president of the united states whether he biden trump clinton whoever goes to the senate commission

00:43:50.760 on whatever and says yo i'd like to know about this they say sorry that's above your your

00:43:55.340 clearance levels like like i'm being that you know that i do know and so so the the question

00:44:00.700 is is there some sort of rogue unit that is beyond any of our touch beyond uh congressional

00:44:07.820 constituency or the ability for us to write letters like please stop puppy mills and also

00:44:12.940 at the same time show us alien food right like yo is there a rogue unit that says yo we don't

00:44:17.980 listen to anyone not the president not riley reed's dad harry no one no it does that unit exist

00:44:25.140 that's a very very good question and i have asked that to uh uh chief former chief of staff john

00:44:31.460 podesta uh gerald ford i interviewed him over the phone years ago and i said like if you guys don't

00:44:37.940 have the authority to get this stuff released who does like who at the president because everyone's

00:44:42.220 like well of course the president's got you know unilateral authority he can do whatever he says

00:44:45.960 like yeah but if he doesn't know about something then how is he gonna get it declassified so yeah

00:44:51.080 i get that but but apparently there might be a couple of different a couple of different sectors

00:44:56.220 and i asked this actually just recently to the guy that ran the pentagon program like he goes

00:45:00.920 look man you don't know you don't understand like the stuff that i've seen i'm like well what is it

00:45:04.060 going to take to get this stuff released you know and he's like well we're working on it we're

00:45:08.680 working on it but but again i i bring back if anybody out there wants to actually you know get

00:45:14.720 do something about helping this out is that the more they hear from us i promise you the more

00:45:20.040 that there's something happening right now warner rubio those guys are talking about this 180 day

00:45:25.860 deadline i don't know if you guys heard about that or not so i wanted to bring this up yes please

00:45:28.940 okay because it sounds like the pentagon and the government is sort of hearing us yes a little bit

00:45:34.280 um even even uh when they released the pentagon released that the ufo video of the tiktok

00:45:39.300 tiktak which we had already the pentagon and pentagon has released the tiktok of them hitting

00:45:46.960 the whoa with aliens okay myself god damn it the tic tac which i think was already out but then they

00:45:54.460 officially released it as like hey this is government is exactly right backed uh film

00:45:58.660 uh or media and what was it that like somewhere in the document said in 180 days we'll start

00:46:07.280 releasing this ufo footage which i believe is this year in june yeah we'll start getting some

00:46:12.040 sort of extraterrestrial et uh material identified what was it what was it it was a material they

00:46:18.700 have to provide an intelligence briefing that's going to be made public to congress and that was

00:46:24.820 part of the the covid relief bill that trump signed that was it yes it was like nestled

00:46:29.020 it was like by the way like you know covid here's what's going on by the way in 108 days we're

00:46:34.660 going to tell you about aliens in the material yes i know but there are people that want this

00:46:38.840 out i'm telling you right now there are people within government that feel that although it's

00:46:43.340 a little scary to some to me i feel like hey it's reality is reality whether we're whether we're

00:46:49.380 aware of it or not and um i think that everybody man woman and child has a right to know about

00:46:53.800 what's going on do do we no no no i mean i mean i mean so i do what kind of right now now i i ask

00:47:00.820 It's like a moral right, an ethical right, a civil right.

00:47:07.540 What right exactly is it that we have to know the highest levels of government intelligence?

00:47:12.900 Do you know what?

00:47:13.220 This is a question I'm asking.

00:47:15.200 Well, look at it this way.

00:47:16.420 Yeah, that's what I'm asking.

00:47:17.280 If there is tangible evidence that would suggest we're not alone, being withheld from the general public, I feel that's unconscionable.

00:47:28.240 I mean, whether it's a little scary or not, I feel like it's it's information that we're all should be entitled to.

00:47:33.980 I really do. I believe that. I would love to see my six year old son grow up with this not being a secret, with this not being covered up with this.

00:47:41.920 I think it would force the human race. And I sound a little wiggy here, but I'm serious to see ourselves for who we really are.

00:47:48.640 And that's one race, one planet. I really believe that. I really do. I love that.

00:47:52.880 And I think that we're all entitled. It's one of those topics that transcends religion. It transcends politics.

00:47:58.240 We're living in incredibly divided times right now,

00:48:00.440 and this is something we can all get behind and agree with

00:48:03.140 that, hey, man, this is fascinating,

00:48:05.040 and this pertains to all of us.

00:48:08.040 I've never heard it put in that way before

00:48:10.200 because it's a very utopian outlook

00:48:13.620 on why we should know about aliens.

00:48:17.060 The thing that worries me there

00:48:18.640 is it is human nature to create teams, okay?

00:48:22.740 And right now, at the greatest level,

00:48:25.540 our biggest teams are USA versus Russia.

00:48:28.240 usa versus uk and we all rally right what if the the downside of getting this exposure and

00:48:35.200 understanding what that aliens exist creates a earth first x52-77 you know what i'm saying

00:48:41.740 yeah space wars right is that i mean could that happen well look the the government officials

00:48:47.720 the military the pilots that i've interviewed and i've interviewed a lot are all around the world

00:48:51.360 i'm not trying to toot my own i just have yeah and uh they've all said to me look man if they're

00:48:55.360 here to do us any harm do we be toast like they're they fly rings around us they make a joke out of

00:49:00.400 our technology what if they can only just fly fast they have no weapons no they're just so they're

00:49:06.560 like hummingbirds no they can't really do much no this is i'll share this story with you so i

00:49:11.960 interviewed this guy named parvis jafari he was a general in the uh iranian army uh military

00:49:18.320 Anyway, he had this dramatic encounter over Tehran, Iran, in 1976 in an F-4 fighter jet.

00:49:26.060 I think it was an F-4 fighter jet.

00:49:27.720 And it was just a really dramatic encounter.

00:49:30.700 And he talks all about it.

00:49:32.260 And then he tries to shoot this thing.

00:49:34.740 And he gets his lock on it. 0.98

00:49:36.460 And he goes to shoot it.

00:49:37.240 I have him talking all about this on camera.

00:49:39.600 And just as he's about to pull the trigger, his whole plane locks up.

00:49:43.420 And he literally thought he was going to die.

00:49:46.340 and he was getting ready to hit the ejector button

00:49:48.440 like 2 in the morning over Tehran

00:49:50.600 middle of the night flying at like 500 miles an hour

00:49:53.140 he's ready to eject out of this thing

00:49:54.740 because he's like I'm toast

00:49:55.560 and all these years later I interviewed him

00:49:58.100 I flew him in from Tehran

00:50:00.180 for an event I did it in 2007

00:50:02.000 the National Press Club

00:50:03.020 and he goes you know my biggest regret

00:50:06.300 and I was like what's that Parviz

00:50:08.320 he goes

00:50:09.500 why did I try to shoot at this thing

00:50:11.860 why didn't I try to make friendly contact

00:50:13.600 I tried to shoot at it

00:50:14.880 why did I do that

00:50:16.060 i thought wow this guy's been thinking about that all this time later you know like he goes they

00:50:21.260 didn't try to do anything harmful to me why would i try to shoot it's like a human reaction yeah

00:50:25.060 right so it's so weird that that's our yeah but it locked up from fear though but but according

00:50:29.960 to him it knew before he would pull the trigger what he was thinking oh no he shut his yeah these

00:50:36.240 testimonials are fascinating they really are especially from people who you know probably

00:50:40.840 A trustworthy guy

00:50:42.060 Oh my god

00:50:42.860 A verified human being 1.00

00:50:44.060 When Greer was on his podcast

00:50:45.960 Dr. Greer

00:50:46.680 He said

00:50:48.460 That Buzz Aldrin

00:50:50.220 I believe it was Buzz Aldrin

00:50:51.980 Made a claim

00:50:53.080 To like

00:50:53.880 His sister

00:50:54.580 Not on the media or something

00:50:55.680 And it kind of like

00:50:56.420 Sprinkled through

00:50:57.760 A couple folks

00:50:58.580 That when he was on the moon

00:51:00.680 There was craft there

00:51:02.540 No

00:51:03.300 I know the story

00:51:05.060 Do you know anything about this?

00:51:05.940 I know the story very well

00:51:07.480 Is it a story?

00:51:08.580 It is

00:51:09.060 Or is it legitimate?

00:51:10.020 So here's the deal

00:51:10.700 uh i worked on a movie set years and years and years ago with mickey rooney uh the legend of

00:51:17.300 obi taggart in new mexico and the people that i was working with were like oh so sunny boy

00:51:22.200 obviously in my early 20s what are you what are you doing i'm like i'm doing a documentary on

00:51:25.700 ufos and they were like to me like okay well you know i'm friends with uh with with buzz aldrin

00:51:30.380 so i was like wow could you get me an interview with buzz aldrin and they're like yeah he told

00:51:34.860 me some crazy stuff back in the day like he may be you know so anyway fast forward like a couple

00:51:39.180 once later, I'm in Marin County, which is where I live in Northern California. And, um, I meet

00:51:44.560 this woman, Faye Ann Potter. She's an art dealer and she's like my brother's Buzz Aldrin. I was

00:51:51.000 like, really? And all of a sudden those Buzz Aldrin stuff starts happening. So I was like,

00:51:55.000 I told her, I was like, I was on the movie set. I was with this guy, Mickey Rooney. He promised me

00:51:58.960 he would get in touch with your brother. Like, what's up? Like, what does he know? We met at

00:52:02.300 this restaurant called the Left Bank in Larkspur. And, uh, she's like, yeah, he had this really

00:52:07.580 dramatic encounter while he was piloting a fighter jet and he chased it all the way as high as his

00:52:12.360 jet would go he said it rocked his world so hard he just couldn't the disc and i don't remember

00:52:16.580 what year it was she didn't know but she said he called me and he was totally freaked out

00:52:20.280 then uh in 1969 was it july of 69 when they went to the moon and i'm telling you this is just what

00:52:26.440 fey ann potter told me personally and that was they saw something that followed them to the moon

00:52:31.440 did not say anything about anything on the moon nothing on the moon but it was something that

00:52:37.500 follow them to the moon so i was like oh my god it'd be amazing if i get your brother on camera

00:52:41.560 so long story short she puts me in touch with buzz aldrin and he says yeah i'll meet she goes you

00:52:46.920 got to meet with this guy he's amazing and you know so he goes okay well i'm on book tour i'm

00:52:50.620 in monte carlo tell him to get his butt over here and meet me in monte carlo so i borrow 10 grand

00:52:55.640 to get a camera crew and film i was broke as a joke man i didn't have any money but i was like

00:52:59.340 i got an interview with buzz aldrin so get all this thing i fly to monte carlo and it's like

00:53:03.800 the cheapest place i could i was looking at boat anchors that cost more than all the money in the

00:53:07.820 world that i had i was like well i couldn't even afford that boat anchor right anyway we're staying

00:53:11.560 at a hotel and he kept putting the interview off and i was like god i was like it's like 400 bucks

00:53:15.880 a day just to stay here and i'm chaining like a rat infested hole like come on so after like the

00:53:20.040 third day i said i said mr alder with all due respect i mean you promised me this interview

00:53:23.760 and i flew all this way i got a camera girl standing by and he goes okay okay okay he goes

00:53:28.780 well meet me in my hotel room tomorrow morning he gave me this fancy hotel and so i showed up 15

00:53:33.940 minutes early i'm having a coffee and a croissant all excited i'm gonna see and he goes don't have

00:53:37.900 any cameras rolling no cameras will be wrong and uh and i get and this concierge comes to me so

00:53:43.340 mr fox we uh you have a telephone call uh mr buzz aldrin i was like oh okay and he goes i can't do

00:53:51.740 the interview oh and i went what do you mean you can't do the interview he goes i can't do it he

00:53:57.320 He goes, Paul Allen just invested in SETI,

00:53:59.560 which is NASA's search for extraterrestrial intelligence.

00:54:02.360 And he got labeled this UFO nut.

00:54:03.700 And I can't jeopardize this initiative

00:54:05.740 of putting civilians in space

00:54:07.040 and developing this rocket with Congress.

00:54:08.740 He goes, and what the hell difference

00:54:10.200 is my story going to make anyway?

00:54:11.860 And I said, well, Mr. Aldrin,

00:54:13.220 it takes people of your stature and your credibility

00:54:15.340 to come forward to help elevate this whole subject matter.

00:54:18.020 He goes, well, I ain't doing it.

00:54:19.140 And then click, fast forward.

00:54:21.100 That was in 1999, I think, or 2000, 99 or 2000.

00:54:25.720 Fast forward.

00:54:27.320 I go on Larry King Live with, it's online somewhere.

00:54:32.580 I go on Larry King Live with the former governor of Arizona.

00:54:35.840 And guess who makes a guest appearance at the same time?

00:54:38.520 It's Buzz Aldrin.

00:54:39.860 And I walk by the green room, and there's Buzz getting his makeup done.

00:54:42.520 I got a picture of it somewhere.

00:54:43.900 You're not supposed to take a picture of people getting their makeup done.

00:54:46.960 But I was like, whatever.

00:54:47.960 And then I turn to the governor of Arizona, Fife Simonton, and I'm all,

00:54:51.160 I'm going to nail this guy on live TV, right?

00:54:54.020 And he goes, James, you can't do that.

00:54:55.640 That guy's, he landed on the moon with Neil Armstrong.

00:54:58.420 He's an icon.

00:54:59.100 A rock star.

00:54:59.780 He's a rock star.

00:55:00.640 Yeah.

00:55:00.900 Like, you can't do that.

00:55:01.840 I'm like, I told him what happened.

00:55:04.880 He's like, yeah, but still, I was like, this guy never apologized or anything.

00:55:08.440 I was like, he left me hanging.

00:55:10.060 Like, you know.

00:55:10.660 And so I went on this show with Buzz Aldrin.

00:55:13.560 It was live, and I just watched him lie to everybody.

00:55:15.700 I'm like, just looking there going, okay.

00:55:18.260 Yeah, and that was that, man.

00:55:20.040 Yeah, I swear to God.

00:55:20.980 You almost had it.

00:55:21.660 I swear to God.

00:55:22.140 Do you think he'll come on impulsive and tell his story?

00:55:25.760 I got his number.

00:55:27.320 I got his number.

00:55:28.000 You should reach it.

00:55:28.480 That would be the best.

00:55:29.820 You might be able to break this story.

00:55:30.660 You won't dox him live.

00:55:32.040 You know what?

00:55:32.520 What are the odds?

00:55:33.460 Oh, oh, God.

00:55:34.700 I'm so glad you reminded me of this.

00:55:36.620 So, the best.

00:55:38.500 You talked about UFO footage.

00:55:42.420 Can I?

00:55:43.740 Oh, we tried.

00:55:45.120 Oh, you tried?

00:55:45.680 Well, you know what?

00:55:46.560 I got 20 no's from most people before I get the interviews.

00:55:50.700 It never stopped trying.

00:55:51.480 19 more you guys got 19 to go so i um you talked about ufo footage okay and i'm going to say this

00:55:59.220 because you guys have a big audience and i there's people in los angeles area and i know because i've

00:56:03.480 seen the footage that have the most compelling ufo footage in the history of ever okay i was

00:56:10.020 working on my first documentary there was a guy i was interviewing that was out in nevada his name

00:56:14.580 was chuck clark and um i get a phone call from him we've been dealing back and forth because

00:56:19.880 he's participating in my movie and he calls me up and he goes james he goes i got i got something

00:56:24.300 you got to see and i'm like oh okay well what is it and he goes i'm gonna tell you what it is

00:56:30.300 but i'll tell you what when you see it your jaw's gonna hit the floor and i went that good he goes

00:56:35.080 oh yeah that good hung up the phone jumped in my car drove 12 straight hours i get to this guy's

00:56:41.020 double wide cabin in in rachel nevada swear to god what i'm telling you is true okay he pops the

00:56:47.820 tape in it's a vhs tape and i said where did you get he goes just just watch so i watched this and

00:56:52.980 there's two guys on the quintessential road trip from la to area 51 it was really popular in the

00:56:59.340 90s and they're like goofing off next to the signs and they go the little alien and hey look at this

00:57:03.940 little ufo and they're just being silly having a good time road trip music all of a sudden

00:57:09.220 the car stopped it's dusk and the camera is is cocked on the armrest and it's shooting

00:57:17.120 the dashboard and the screen the windscreen and it sounds like and i couldn't see but it sounds

00:57:23.200 like the two guys in the car trying to climb under the seats and they're screaming at each other and

00:57:27.720 all of a sudden the car lights up like if you could imagine like here's the car if there's an

00:57:32.940 object above the car with a light on a pendulum and it's moving very smoothly like fluid like

00:57:38.980 back and forth like this so the light source is moving yeah all the shadows on the inside of the

00:57:43.940 car are moving in this really fluid motion i'm like jesus christ it's over the top of us get

00:57:49.420 under get under so i think it's happening above the house right now i know right so i'm looking

00:57:55.180 at this footage going my god this is unbelievable and then all of a sudden is that is that what it

00:58:00.140 sounded like no you could hear a pin drop you could hear a pin drop so so anyway i i'm looking

00:58:06.280 this footage and then the younger guy because apparently it was a 19 year old and the guy was

00:58:09.320 like 29 he goes i'm getting out i'm gonna no stay in the car it's over the top of us ain't no because

00:58:14.120 i'm getting out never seen again i promise you i saw this footage with my own eyes it's here in

00:58:18.600 los angeles the guy gets out of the car takes the camera and he pans it up and right about the height

00:58:25.560 of a telephone pole you could hit it with a rock easily was this perfect disc and and i interviewed

00:58:32.280 a lot of people that have just tried to describe what the disc looked like and had the flight

00:58:35.720 characteristics and how it floats but i obviously never seen it so i could only imagine i've only

00:58:39.880 had words and i could see why they've had so much difficulty describing what that looked like because

00:58:45.720 the skin on this thing was like glowing like it was alive i swear to god and it was sitting there

00:58:51.240 rocking like like this like kind of rocking like an like a boat on the ocean like really fluid and

00:58:57.480 smooth and it's glowing and then it had these like like if you if you took a pie and you cut perfectly

00:59:05.720 symmetrical piece out of the pie and where the seam was was slightly darker but all around it

00:59:10.680 everywhere else was glowing it wasn't like a light source it was like it was a lot i don't like this 0.78

00:59:14.280 one no no no no no because i've been thinking this for five fucking minutes you love pie no that's 0.88

00:59:19.680 not why it's not because the pie i'll tell you quickly two more seconds and the guy just goes 0.97

00:59:25.100 and you're thinking like i just looked at it go this this fills in all the blanks it's the most

00:59:29.020 amazing footage i've ever seen the guy goes oh my god and then the camera shuts off and now have

00:59:33.760 Have you ever seen Blair Witch Project?

00:59:34.680 No, stop.

00:59:35.380 I'm telling you.

00:59:36.420 Here's why I don't like this one.

00:59:39.200 Here's why I don't like this one.

00:59:41.280 Two 19-year-olds on a trip to Roswell or to Area 51.

00:59:46.220 Their first mistake turned out to be their last.

00:59:47.900 Like, playing with aliens.

00:59:50.600 Like, yo, let's be honest. 1.00

00:59:51.500 These guys set up a fucking storyline. 0.99

00:59:53.220 They're at Area 51. 1.00

00:59:54.040 No, no, no, no, no.

00:59:54.680 They got the aliens.

00:59:55.500 I don't think so.

00:59:56.100 The car.

00:59:57.060 Stop.

00:59:57.680 They're lifting us up.

00:59:58.740 Like, it has every single part of a trailer.

01:00:02.260 No, because it wasn't produced.

01:00:03.420 It wasn't produced.

01:00:04.520 It wasn't distributed.

01:00:06.180 So here's the cool thing.

01:00:07.300 Here's the cool thing.

01:00:08.500 Where's the footage?

01:00:09.820 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:10.300 Where's the footage, James?

01:00:12.420 Because this is where you lose me because you're saying these things.

01:00:14.740 I'll pay good money for it.

01:00:15.500 And where is the footage?

01:00:17.360 Yeah, I know.

01:00:18.080 I'll try to crypto.

01:00:18.720 I'll tell you right now, Chuck Clark has it.

01:00:20.940 Who is that?

01:00:21.640 Dick Clark's brother.

01:00:22.420 Chuck Clark, he wrote a book, this manual.

01:00:25.120 There's people going after it.

01:00:26.040 But look, man, I'm just telling you.

01:00:27.360 I need it.

01:00:28.220 Chuck, I'm coming.

01:00:29.320 I'm coming to find you.

01:00:30.580 Chuck Clark.

01:00:31.060 Chuck, he's coming.

01:00:31.940 I need to find this footage.

01:00:32.920 I'm going to do what I did with Pokemon

01:00:35.360 to UFOs

01:00:36.600 the market's booming

01:00:38.480 I'm just as frustrated as you guys are about it

01:00:40.880 how do you think I feel

01:00:41.780 why is he hiding it

01:00:43.400 I know right

01:00:45.420 so what Chuck told me at the time

01:00:50.460 and I harassed him for 15 years

01:00:52.240 and he goes if you ask me again I'm never going to talk to you

01:00:53.980 and then I asked him again of course

01:00:55.180 he never talked to you

01:00:56.160 he stuck to his guns

01:00:59.060 he wrote the area

01:01:01.500 S4 51 handbook

01:01:03.520 he was an

01:01:05.320 amateur astronomer

01:01:07.260 he'd located at Area 51

01:01:09.960 when Area 51 was really hot back in the 90s

01:01:12.000 he'd located these vantage points on these

01:01:13.800 mountaintops where you could see down onto the base

01:01:16.040 and like where you wouldn't violate

01:01:17.820 national security or go where you weren't supposed to go

01:01:19.920 Chuck had done all that stuff

01:01:21.460 and he was just out there, he was a fixture out there

01:01:23.840 and these kids were on a road trip and

01:01:25.700 they were laughing and mocking and then they drove out of town

01:01:27.800 and they had this encounter and then they

01:01:29.840 came back into town and were like we think we shot something that the government's gonna kill

01:01:33.420 us over that's what he told me they think they captured a secret military craft that's completely

01:01:38.480 secret on camera all right well maybe they well maybe they did maybe you know maybe they don't

01:01:43.540 yeah that's what they said and so i said just put me in touch with them and let me talk with

01:01:47.920 him and he wouldn't do it if you don't want me asking why did he blue ball you by like showing

01:01:52.220 you and he's like all right that's why do you want to show you i he made you drive 12 hours

01:01:56.240 He blue ball do you know people who pulled out a tick didn't let you hit can I ask you know I'm saying what the conversation

01:02:02.860 Why mention it is because the people that shot it live in LA one of them was it working in production and

01:02:08.720 Somebody there it's it's here in Los Angeles

01:02:12.720 We got to go get I want to see it come out just as badly as you guys believe me. I saw it

01:02:18.740 Would you trade all your Pokemon cards for that footage to own it?

01:02:21.600 No

01:02:24.320 What'd you give him an Instagram pop tag

01:02:27.140 Instagram pop tag

01:02:28.300 So I'm sure they like clout right

01:02:30.240 I'm gonna find this footage

01:02:32.680 I'm not gonna tell you what my plan is

01:02:35.860 But I'm gonna find this footage

01:02:37.280 I hope you do

01:02:38.140 And I'm posting it in the Maverick Club

01:02:41.020 As an NFT available only in the Maverick Club

01:02:44.040 I think that footage should be out there

01:02:47.340 And it frustrates the hell out of me

01:02:49.080 Because it was so good

01:02:50.340 And I've seen lots of footage and gone, eh, that footage looks fake.

01:02:54.080 No, man, this was, like, screamed authentic.

01:02:56.240 I want to rewind a second just to hit on something else.

01:02:59.000 I have a photograph to show you guys as well, so, sorry. 1.00

01:03:01.220 You son of a bitch. 1.00

01:03:04.440 Unplugged. 1.00

01:03:05.740 I want to rewind just a second because Mike asked a good question

01:03:08.780 that I was actually curious about.

01:03:10.100 You know, we hear all these stories about the 50s, the 60s, the 80s, 90s,

01:03:15.080 you know, when filmography was obviously not as prominent.

01:03:19.640 and now everyone has a cell phone everyone has that method of capture yeah um and yet we're

01:03:28.280 hearing and seeing well hearing so much less about these visits and yet everything nowadays

01:03:36.800 is documented by everyone i don't i think that's what he was asking earlier but i don't think

01:03:42.960 you answered that like like is there a chance that these visitors whatever the fly the pilots

01:03:49.740 of the craft are aware of the ever-evolving age of technology that's happening in the human race

01:03:57.500 and kind of pulled back a little bit that's that's there are very few people that have actually made

01:04:03.280 that that uh that uh observation like very few and i've had discussions with this at very high

01:04:10.340 levels like why is it these things are ubiquitous why is it and first of all there are stuff on

01:04:16.140 youtube as you know but it's so hard to make the distinction as to what's fake what's real yeah but

01:04:20.020 i will say that i was told from intelligence people that there's footage taken from an iphone

01:04:25.600 in a air force jet in the navy in 2020 of an object the size of a football field triangular

01:04:33.060 shape that came out of the ocean and went straight up past these jets uh i know i'm telling you that

01:04:39.360 footage exists i can't wait to see this stuff it's gonna happen christopher christopher

01:04:43.140 mellon former deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence told me that it existed

01:04:46.840 i'm trying to put pressure on the government to have it released they know it exists and they

01:04:51.520 know there's lots of other very compelling photographic evidence that is yet to see the

01:04:55.700 light of day but it's there also if the intelligence that we're talking about could know when a man is

01:05:00.440 about to shoot at you yeah don't you think they know when you're about to take an ig story

01:05:05.720 because this is this is all we have right now this was this past weekend oh yeah it is i heard

01:05:11.900 about this yeah here we go american airlines flight 2292 pilot reported this we just had

01:05:19.300 something go right over the top of us that i hate to say this looked like a long cylindrical object

01:05:24.860 it almost looked like a missile type of thing moving really fast that went right over the top

01:05:29.300 it happened on a sunday when the military doesn't typically perform military tests since then

01:05:35.100 so this just happened and then there was something else in la recently about uh

01:05:39.400 oh can you look something up yeah uh look up 1994 1995 salida ufo because that's a that's

01:05:47.040 the best cylindrical ufo footage i've ever seen it was taken by tim edwards and it's footage yes

01:05:52.080 it's footage and it's a cylindrical object over colorado in 1995 i believe it was that's it yep

01:05:58.940 that's it see that cylindrical object it's pretty good footage it's long

01:06:01.640 It's long

01:06:03.980 So you might have to

01:06:05.260 So what are they saying

01:06:05.920 This might be the alien 0.97

01:06:06.920 Like their version 1.00

01:06:08.000 Of a school bus

01:06:08.720 Well it could be

01:06:09.340 If you look at it sideways

01:06:10.400 I don't know

01:06:11.240 It's

01:06:11.580 Error occurred

01:06:13.640 Yeah

01:06:14.500 They don't want us

01:06:15.380 They don't want us to watch this

01:06:16.640 I got the year right

01:06:17.440 1995

01:06:18.020 Tim Evers

01:06:18.740 I'm on the wrong wifi

01:06:19.900 Okay cool

01:06:20.840 Excuse me

01:06:21.360 No problem

01:06:21.920 I can tell it's old YouTube

01:06:24.220 Because the video isn't 1280

01:06:25.720 Right

01:06:26.180 By 1920

01:06:26.940 It's

01:06:27.960 Pretty much a square

01:06:28.880 So yeah

01:06:31.480 but you're gonna want us to watch it yeah it's it's pretty listen to what the

01:06:38.740 daughter's saying can a spaceship grow bigger like that whoa oh my gosh oh my

01:06:56.080 gosh you you could see it's it's shimmering and uh it looks like it's alive like it's alive where

01:07:02.700 where was this salida colorado 1995 okay tim edwards shot it okay so i have another question

01:07:07.800 about this stuff the the the another issue with videos like this and especially when they're in

01:07:14.680 colorado nevada some of these places are the testing grounds for for advanced research projects

01:07:22.180 darpa right is that what it's called uh skunk works like all these all these people that have

01:07:27.640 said and this could go either way this this this could be a project of the u.s military correct

01:07:35.040 any of these can the disc could be any of them could be u.s military projects correct is that

01:07:39.460 is that a possibility not at this point why do you say that because the highest level government

01:07:45.100 officials said that we simply don't have that technology we don't have the ability to fly

01:07:49.180 without wings we don't have the ability to fly without conventional propulsion yeah you have

01:07:53.760 objects that can hover they can accelerate from a standstill to out of sight right ankle turns

01:07:58.240 we don't have it and they say we don't have it today so i so i like that and i'm on that side

01:08:03.100 yeah and all of the people that have said this stuff isn't real since the 1960s they said this

01:08:09.660 isn't real there's no ship that can uh detract radar that just can't happen then all of a sudden

01:08:16.380 the SR-71 came out where did that technology come from absorbed radar didn't emit any kind of radar

01:08:21.900 detection right they said there's no way a airplane could lift flat off flat off the ground

01:08:29.620 like that then the Harrier jet came out and it lifted straight off of aircraft carriers without

01:08:34.100 any kind of runway whatsoever so on your side and the side I agree with on this it seems like this

01:08:41.500 tech is coming from somewhere like where is the tech coming from that we keep putting into our

01:08:47.360 but the conventional uh compulsion propulsion from the harrier jet is just jet engines correct

01:08:52.840 and the and the sr-71 can't stop it has wings it can't like hover and it makes noise and it makes

01:08:59.460 a lot of noise and these things violate every known principle uh that that we have i mean they

01:09:07.140 don't make a sonic boom how do you how do you travel supersonic speeds and not make a sonic

01:09:11.460 boom the only other anti point on that one is and i'm saying i don't know where these things are

01:09:15.800 from i really don't and i think that anyone that says they do is is it's not telling the truth

01:09:20.380 right i really don't the only other anti on that point is as you know very well we are generally

01:09:25.700 30 to 50 years behind on military tech especially here in america so like we didn't find out about

01:09:31.920 the sr 71 until i don't know what like the 90s or something like that and it was operating over

01:09:36.780 vietnam so like whatever we do have darpa has right now skunk works is now defunct i think but

01:09:42.780 whatever we have from an advanced research standpoint could be 50 years ahead of what we

01:09:47.520 know we could have flying discs right now that are that are ready to operate that are some sitting

01:09:52.080 in some warehouse that we just don't know about well this is what i wanted to ask about yeah i

01:09:55.960 don't think we do you don't think so you know bob lazar yeah his story is fascinating yes do you

01:10:02.640 believe all of it no uh let me tell you just drama let me yeah let me tell you i believe that he

01:10:10.500 believes he's telling the truth i believe he's like insane no i wouldn't say that he was insane

01:10:15.500 but could he have been used as as disinformation it's possible what are you talking about well i

01:10:20.800 know but but i'm just saying it's a you you have to understand my position is extraordinary claims

01:10:25.260 require extraordinary evidence i haven't seen and i've traveled asking questions at the highest

01:10:32.080 levels i haven't seen any indication that we have successfully reverse engineered that technology i

01:10:38.400 do believe there have been crashes i do believe that roswell happened just as they said it

01:10:42.080 happened i believe that their debris was recovered but all the guys that i've talked to said we

01:10:46.800 didn't know what that we didn't know where the engine was we couldn't even find an engine there

01:10:50.240 are provisions well if you look hard enough i'm sure you'd find it and well seriously some of

01:10:54.720 some of his claims are were hey i'm not i'm not what no no no i'm not yeah he could have been of

01:11:00.880 of course he could have been where he said he was he could have been shown things and said there

01:11:04.440 were this when they were that i don't know but but how do you prove what he's saying is true

01:11:11.440 you just it's really hard i think okay so i yeah i believe i believe that he believes that he's

01:11:17.180 telling the truth i always have believed that that he believes that he's telling the truth

01:11:21.160 we've had this conversation on this podcast before about the truth 0.74

01:11:24.060 subjective truth this is always you know the fucking truth yeah yeah but okay so then rewind 0.56

01:11:30.240 his story and a lot of the claims that he made that turned out to be true later yes in my opinion 0.92

01:11:36.580 verified and validated a lot of the stuff he was saying which made it easier to believe him for the

01:11:40.800 really really far out claims that he made yeah right like with the with the with a hand device

01:11:45.260 that was able to measure bones and symbiotic oh that thing yeah right so security to get right

01:11:50.980 yeah everyone thought he was crazy then it came out and um i think there were a couple other

01:11:54.980 ones maybe the element right there wasn't there like an element 115 or something yeah i mean

01:11:59.060 look there's no smoke without fire but but again i i remember actually talking to someone who will

01:12:03.380 remain nameless at the new york times and we were talking about bob lazar and i said well i don't

01:12:08.100 know what do you what do you think she was maybe he might be telling the truth i was like but i can't

01:12:14.340 go there i was like i gotta get i gotta get that but how do you verify and again i i know i sound

01:12:19.140 sound like a broken record but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and

01:12:22.500 i believe that he believes he's telling the truth whether or not we have successfully

01:12:26.540 reverse engineered hardware that we have recovered is a big unknown to me and i hate to like

01:12:31.960 just land flat on that one but i just really haven't seen the evidence because that's what

01:12:36.680 i was getting that's why i started this is is what are the chances that we've recovered some

01:12:40.660 sort of craft and humans are now piloting it and using it i'd love to i mean hey i would like well

01:12:47.280 They've been doing a pretty good job of keeping it secret for 75 years.

01:12:50.100 That's true.

01:12:50.660 And by the way, I look back at the declassification on that SR-71,

01:12:54.280 and it was only about a 15-year lag between full declassification.

01:12:58.360 And so by this point, if we had recovered an alien craft back in the 1960s, 1970s,

01:13:05.280 we probably would know something about it from a reverse engineering standpoint.

01:13:10.300 I was really reluctant to cover Roswell in my film, The Phenomenon.

01:13:14.820 I want to hear about this.

01:13:15.440 Because I was like, Roswell's kind of a hot potato.

01:13:18.140 It's been there.

01:13:18.660 It's been done.

01:13:19.260 And people have been banging on about it.

01:13:20.540 I was like, OK, well, if I'm going to cover it, what I did was I was looking and I was looking into this incident called the Rockefeller Initiative.

01:13:27.480 It was during the Clinton administration.

01:13:29.280 And Lawrence Rockefeller at the time, a billionaire, was putting significant pressure on the Clinton administration saying, you're going to, you know, you're going to open up the files for UFO files.

01:13:40.640 or I'm going to expose the fact in every newspaper publication

01:13:43.500 across the United States that you're not going to do that.

01:13:46.000 Basically strong-armed the president.

01:13:47.980 So the president basically was like,

01:13:49.220 okay, what do you want me to look into?

01:13:51.000 Is there a particular case?

01:13:52.520 And Rockefeller said, yeah, how about Roswell?

01:13:55.220 Because Roswell, I mean, if it happens.

01:13:56.960 Yeah, exactly, and it's hardware, and it's beans, apparently.

01:14:00.400 So the Clinton administration, believe it or not,

01:14:02.680 went after Roswell at the highest levels.

01:14:05.920 And Podesta on camera told me,

01:14:07.840 we were not happy with the answers we were getting.

01:14:10.640 so they were making inquiries about it so i covered roswell because i'm like i can't touch

01:14:16.740 on roswell in the film assuming that i do penetrate a much broader audience more mainstream audience

01:14:21.140 they're not going to know much more than the average joe about roswell let me just cover the

01:14:25.080 core facts and that is that the very people that were responsible for the deployment of atomic

01:14:32.220 weapons the 509th bomb squadron announced to the world this is all a fact that they recovered a

01:14:37.980 flying saucer that that's a fact and it made headline news around the world like that even

01:14:43.720 back in 1947 then they were taking the debris in a b-29 bomber and they were flying it to right

01:14:49.300 patterson air force base dayton ohio which is where the reverse where your foreign technology

01:14:53.740 division was with a stop off it in texas fort worth and when they got to texas get off the

01:15:01.000 plane there's a flurry of military activity and and publicity with the media and everywhere and

01:15:07.180 the bass guy looks at the people on the plane and they keep your mouth shut let me handle this

01:15:11.320 so he goes quiet and throws some debris from a roswell weather balloon and says terribly sorry

01:15:16.480 what we thought was a flying saucer turned out to be a weather balloon well almost everybody in

01:15:19.760 that press photo went on the record on camera before they died and said the original story

01:15:24.700 was true it was not of this world this is what we recovered when i was in uh high school i was

01:15:30.820 taking physics and we had a lesson in pseudoscience one day and uh he was going through different

01:15:36.320 things that were definitely pseudoscience you know alchemy was on the list um i forget there's

01:15:41.120 there's a there's a maybe like 10 things and one of them was the roswell incident so my whole life

01:15:46.000 wow i grew up believing because of what was taught to me in school that this wasn't real and and you

01:15:54.200 know i'm not making a stand at this point in time but i think it's fascinating how what you're told

01:15:59.260 can resonate with you for so long and then you open your eyes to something and realize none of

01:16:03.800 it's true like think about it a high school teacher told me that this thing wasn't real and

01:16:08.600 i assumed because he's the teacher he's the authority right i assumed it to be true and

01:16:13.640 it's almost just like i had to slap myself on on my wrist and stop just accepting things that are

01:16:19.700 told to me and this is why this whole ufo thing fascinates me because there's so much more when

01:16:25.080 you peel back that first oh totally you know my father was my biggest skeptic my father was a

01:16:29.220 mainstream journalist and when he found out that i was going to do a documentary on ufos he was

01:16:32.880 begging me not to do it son you're you're wasting your life you're going down a dead end road blah

01:16:37.200 blah and i was just like well you know being a tourist i guess that propelled me to work even

01:16:41.760 harder and so i get like the resistance and now you know i've gone around the world and i've talked

01:16:48.080 to these people and i and i'm like and bring it on neil degrasse tyson you want to like you want

01:16:52.960 to go to debate with me you're an extremely smart guy but you don't know what you're talking about

01:16:56.800 when it turns to this field i can out i know what i'm talking about you haven't even you have an

01:17:01.680 an even bigger skeptic in elon musk yeah so so elon so elon was on rogan recently just to give a

01:17:07.000 little context here okay he's got the chicken parmesan challenge i guarantee you he'll see that

01:17:11.580 movie he'll know they're real definitely take that challenge he says honestly i think uh if i would

01:17:15.160 know if there are aliens uh i mean if they wanted us to know about them they would just show up and

01:17:18.980 walk down the street like hey i'm an alien check me out here's my spaceship i just landed in the

01:17:22.000 middle of the square and we'd be like okay i believe these are very these are they're very

01:17:25.200 subtle these aliens uh rogan asked him uh if he ever thinks about ufos he said zero if they show

01:17:30.980 I'm like, great, this is new information.

01:17:32.400 Like, where were you guys up until now?

01:17:33.540 If I see some evidence for aliens, I'll be the first to be like, ah, aliens.

01:17:36.540 And finally, he asked Musk, does seeking out aliens feel like a waste of time to you?

01:17:41.260 And he said, yes.

01:17:42.280 If there were aliens, they're very subtle.

01:17:43.880 They're pretty shy.

01:17:44.660 So as far as we can tell, there's none, nor are we seeing signals from any other solar system.

01:17:49.600 That's Elon Musk on aliens.

01:17:50.900 And Elon Musk is an amazing guy, and I respect him tremendously, but he simply does not have the information.

01:17:58.220 It's as simple as that.

01:17:59.060 if he watches the phenomenon and i know you guys are like oh you're out there pushing my movie

01:18:02.900 well of course i am like i did that movie we're joking oh yeah you're here to do yeah no that's

01:18:06.640 what i'm here to do yeah i believe in what i do i don't do it i didn't never made that movie for

01:18:12.180 the money i did it because i felt like there was really compelling evidence yeah that hasn't seen

01:18:16.060 a lot of day a part of history that was almost erased i mean you look at like all those major

01:18:20.640 incidents and all those headlines that we dug up over an eight-year period that stuff would have

01:18:24.580 been just like forgotten and like fallen away and never talked about right so i know that if

01:18:30.600 elon musk watches watches the phenomenon i i put anything on it that he's going to say you know

01:18:35.920 what i have to rethink what i just said because there's very compelling evidence to suggest that

01:18:40.600 something really truly profound is going on and has been this is this is a conversation for another

01:18:45.400 day because i this particular one because i think we could uh we can go on to it forever but for me

01:18:50.200 the biggest evidence that there's something out there it's just simply looking up man like when

01:18:56.020 i go out and look into the night sky and try to take into account the vast endless eternal size

01:19:03.760 of the universe and even just our solar system and then the galaxy beyond that and all of the

01:19:09.340 the infinite space that is out there it seems so short-sighted and and and uh local to imagine the

01:19:18.780 idea that there's nothing else out there it just it just does man it just can i share one quick

01:19:23.660 story of the man who walked on the moon it's a really good friend of mine he passed a couple

01:19:27.720 years ago i was devastated edgar mitchell a sixth man apollo 14 walked on the moon and i was in

01:19:32.740 there interviewing him about ufos at his home in florida years ago and i said i'm so sorry to ask

01:19:38.760 this question of you because i know that you must get asked this all the time but what was it like

01:19:43.440 to walk on the moon like come on of course and I said could you please just you know would you mind

01:19:49.040 can we just like you know pause for a moment he goes yeah James I'll do that and so I sat there

01:19:55.380 and when I want to really capture a story someone's telling and I did this with Travis Walton when he

01:20:00.580 told me about what it was like when he woke up aboard that craft I closed my eyes and I closed

01:20:05.380 my eyes because I want the words to recreate the imagery in my head so I can see it right so I

01:20:11.720 closed my eyes and i listened very carefully really carefully and he described he's like you

01:20:17.020 know i might as well been in a simulator for three days we're hurling through the vacuum of space

01:20:20.840 towards this we're watching the moon get bigger and the earth gets smaller and um but he goes i

01:20:25.960 might as well been in a simulator because i was so focused on the task at hand i got the transluter

01:20:29.240 injection you know we go around the earth and then we got to hit those blasters and we got to get the

01:20:33.100 trajectory just right if we're if we're off we boom into the into the moon or we ricochet and

01:20:37.920 off into space and we're done and so he's like you know you got to get it just right and so he gets

01:20:43.500 to the moon and then his responsibility was landing the lunar lander right so he's like you

01:20:49.160 know in this thing he goes i might as well in the simulator because we we touch down and and turn off

01:20:55.000 all the systems and he said you could so quiet he said you could hear these macro meteorites pelting

01:21:01.140 the skin of the craft they were paper thin right the walls of that thing and nasa was like you guys

01:21:06.080 you guys need to take a break you've been up for three days you need to sleep so they put their

01:21:09.300 they wouldn't they got in their little bunks and they're trying to sleep they're like you know what

01:21:12.640 the hell with this let's we're on the surface of the moon let's put our suits on and go to explore

01:21:16.240 so they're out there on the surface of the moon and he looks out and he watches this earth rise

01:21:22.900 okay and he said there was this blue marble suspended in a vacuum of black darkness that

01:21:29.080 you cannot even imagine like it's our life support system and he said it rose like up like this this

01:21:35.440 blue marble and he reached out and he put one hand up like this and he blocked out everything

01:21:41.000 he knew all the cultures all the wars all of everything and he had this profound epiphany

01:21:46.140 about it there were invisible borders like one race one people you know and I got to have that

01:21:51.540 moment with him and I think about it you talk about looking at the night sky every time I look

01:21:56.100 at the moon I think about Edgar Mitchell telling me that story and I was so glad I could share with

01:22:00.040 you guys today but that's yeah that's incredible isn't that incredible incredible i know the whole

01:22:04.820 idea of is just it's just mind-blowing yeah and it's all gone yeah it's always behind your hand

01:22:10.700 yeah and then he's like he's like then we realize like we have to get back in this little lunar

01:22:14.320 land we gotta shoot off we gotta reconnect with the lunar orbiter we gotta do a trans earth

01:22:18.720 injection like we you know it's gonna be a hell of a journey getting back and he had this epiphany

01:22:22.940 on the way home about this deep sense of interconnectedness with consciousness and he

01:22:26.840 ended up uh founding um the or an institute that was actually in marin county um i'll think of it

01:22:33.980 in a minute but but in any case uh yeah just incredible absolutely incredible is there is

01:22:38.560 there like a loneliness or lack of purpose maybe that any of these astronauts feel when they get

01:22:44.960 back to the earth i can't imagine going to another planet and then coming back to earth

01:22:50.980 wouldn't affect me in some way i agree you know just hearing that story and thinking about

01:22:56.340 putting your hand up and blocking out all that you've ever known ever about everything and then

01:23:02.820 simply putting your hand back away and returning to the noise that is this ridiculous pursuit that

01:23:09.520 we all go out on every single day i can't even imagine what that solitude must have felt like

01:23:16.860 to be on the moon looking at this madness that exists on this planet from a perspective that

01:23:21.940 we've never seen before it's mind-blowing it it left an indelible mark on me and i think about it

01:23:27.080 almost every day when i see the moon i think about him telling me what it was like to stand on the

01:23:30.800 moon and look back at earth i mean it's just like why do you think we haven't been back uh you know

01:23:35.700 if you look at the apollo missions i mean we were barely even noticing like apollo 13 only got even

01:23:39.900 noticed because of the problems that they had and they almost died right the public had moved on and

01:23:44.740 they lost the civilian support it's a very expensive program but but elon musk is bringing

01:23:49.940 it back and we'll be going we'll be doing missions of the mark to mars and i think uh what they said

01:23:55.300 we're gonna land men on on the moon in the next couple years yeah where they're trying to bring

01:23:59.020 it back right i think but but costliness as well as uh i think like end of mission feeling like

01:24:05.120 yo we know we know it's not made of cottage cheese right right you know like what are the flat earthers

01:24:10.460 gonna do oh my gosh i know it's not funny seriously what are they gonna do they just disband

01:24:15.300 like hey we're on the moon oh my gosh oh my gosh it's not flat yeah well no no no they're not

01:24:23.060 gonna disband what do you mean they that's all cgi but at what point cgi not no well according 0.98

01:24:28.240 to them it's cg fucking i they would like he you know all that's fake unbelievable that's 0.98

01:24:33.020 even gotten any traction it blows my mind you know we have a documentary really it's my our 0.99

01:24:38.560 favorite my personal favorite piece of work i've ever been a part of ever ever ever

01:24:43.620 It's called Flat Earth

01:24:44.940 Oh come on

01:24:46.020 We should pull it off

01:24:46.940 Flat Earth to the edge and back

01:24:48.200 Really?

01:24:49.000 Oh yeah

01:24:49.320 We went to the edge dude

01:24:50.420 Quite literally

01:24:51.700 You're being serious

01:24:52.420 So you took

01:24:53.420 No no no no

01:24:54.360 Sorry

01:24:54.680 We

01:24:55.300 Balloons

01:24:56.520 Posed as Flat Earthers 1.00

01:24:58.340 And went deep deep undercover into the community 0.99

01:25:01.660 For

01:25:02.020 You

01:25:02.380 What a great idea

01:25:03.540 Mind blowing

01:25:04.140 Do you want to watch the trailer?

01:25:05.640 Yes

01:25:05.860 I'd love to

01:25:06.860 It's two and a half minutes

01:25:07.080 Yes

01:25:07.760 I would love to

01:25:09.380 Let's go

01:25:10.180 I would love to

01:25:11.320 That is so cool

01:25:12.920 there's the flat earth to the edge of your back

01:25:15.020 conspiracy theories

01:25:19.480 we've all heard them

01:25:21.140 global warming

01:25:22.340 who killed John Hepburn

01:25:24.820 but even crazier

01:25:29.060 people that actually

01:25:31.520 believe them

01:25:32.300 I'm going to say this as a friend

01:25:39.700 do you think

01:25:41.720 the earth is flat.

01:25:45.080 The earth is flat.

01:25:46.140 The earth is flat.

01:25:47.080 The earth is flat.

01:25:47.840 Satan's greatest lie.

01:25:48.860 The destruction.

01:25:49.840 The world that we're living in

01:25:50.860 has been misdescribed.

01:25:53.120 What shape is the earth?

01:25:54.700 Flat.

01:25:55.640 I think that the earth's flat

01:25:57.020 because if it wasn't flat

01:25:58.900 then we would all be falling off of it.

01:26:05.140 Oh my God.

01:26:06.400 It gives me great pleasure

01:26:07.680 to announce for the 2018

01:26:09.320 third Flat Earth International Conference

01:26:11.300 This many people can start questioning the reality.

01:26:16.300 The truth sets you free.

01:26:22.300 The evidence they presented that they did go to space is nonsense.

01:26:25.300 Do you acknowledge that other planets are round?

01:26:27.300 I don't acknowledge that other planets are planets.

01:26:30.300 People think that it's round is because of the shape of your eye.

01:26:33.300 We don't have toilet water flying out on people in Australia because of gravity.

01:26:38.940 When you're taught that you just came from nothing because the scientific narrative is nothing exploded and created everything we're crazy

01:26:49.680 I didn't know any of this stuff before I came here and like you're still learning

01:26:56.240 It's tough because you've been told something your whole life in a certain way, right? I'm becoming a fire. I'm not saying I am

01:27:02.580 man robbie i just don't know what to believe anymore the truth has set you free

01:27:07.620 my name is logan paul and i i think i'm coming out of the flat earth closet

01:27:21.780 i'm sorry there's never been a more underappreciated piece of content ever

01:27:35.580 wow ever dude oh my god it is so good you know i my neighbor i i can't believe i'm saying this

01:27:45.760 my neighbor who i've known for a long time he's like well you didn't know the earth is flat like

01:27:49.100 they kind of throw me in yeah and they throw me into this whole conspiracy because i do

01:27:53.920 documentaries on ufos but i'm like i can back up everything i'm saying in a court of law i swear

01:27:57.880 like i don't make any outlandish claims i really don't and i let the audience i let the viewers

01:28:01.940 just you know make up their own minds but i realized i was like i'm not going to change

01:28:05.880 this guy's mind and i'm not even doing anything i'm not going to engage you know what they hate

01:28:10.280 nothing i'm going to say is going to change his mind exactly you got evidence they're not so i

01:28:15.140 literally just go great happy for you there buddy i'm i'm out of here you know what i mean you're

01:28:20.840 not gonna change someone's mind you just not hey you can show them photograph me i i that's a little

01:28:26.420 scary that's all we got man that was awesome to pull up to what oh i have a photograph to show

01:28:31.300 you guys the letters oh i have i have the letters uh they're small yeah okay what are these letters

01:28:38.000 dylan okay so this is kind of cool um oh yeah this is really cool this is hard to read okay so

01:28:43.180 it is kind of hard to read i'm sorry that the quality is as bad as it is can i uh so if you

01:28:49.000 see about the third line down there's a pyramid looking thing with two lines in the middle of it

01:28:54.320 to the left a little bit over here right there yeah so that was written in dr jalen hynek who

01:28:59.340 was a scientific advisor to the air force investigating ufos in an official capacity

01:29:03.580 there was a landing case that happened in 1964 i cover it in the film and it's the most well

01:29:09.840 documented close encounter of the third kind in u.s history and it's it's uh you know it was

01:29:16.260 witness was a police officer the craft was like a tic-tac it was white he called it like it more

01:29:21.440 like an egg and um it had a big symbol on the side of it in red about three feet by three feet

01:29:29.120 and there have been so much speculation swirling around for over 50 years about this symbol because

01:29:34.700 when the military arrived within an hour on the scene they said to the witness who was a police

01:29:39.180 officer lonnie zamora okay so first of all don't say the real symbol because we want to be able to

01:29:44.620 quickly identify a hoaxer if somebody else says they saw this craft oh yeah that's the symbol on

01:29:48.780 the side they'd know immediately to identify a hoaxer so rightfully so they said let's obfuscate

01:29:53.820 the symbol and let's say you saw this symbol so the symbol the real symbol never saw the light of

01:29:59.100 day during my investigations of this case i went to the national archives and i won't bore you guys

01:30:04.940 with the details but i eventually got access to the original project blue book files which was a

01:30:09.700 total coup i was like that sound of when the guy rolled them out in the cart i was like oh it was

01:30:16.180 like a halo around i was like the originals and i found this letter from dr hynek dispelling once

01:30:22.160 and for all the real symbol that was on the side of the craft which is the most well-documented

01:30:26.840 close encounter of the third kind in u.s history history which occurred in socorro new mexico

01:30:31.580 1964 April 24th and here people think like you know there's just like oh you know anecdotal

01:30:40.440 evidence of stuff you got a UFO a very credible observer a police officer in uniform who describes

01:30:46.040 his craft these are official photographs that were released that I also got and these are the

01:30:50.740 landing pods of the craft you can see not terribly exciting but but still evidence that something

01:30:56.500 interacted with the ground it wasn't just a hallucination it left imprints from the landing

01:31:01.020 gear in the ground which were photographed and taken rather seriously by the air force this was

01:31:05.780 later declassified those are some of the bushes that were affected by propulsion it had a blue

01:31:11.080 flame initially that came down it didn't ricochet off the ground and stir up the dust it actually

01:31:16.040 penetrated the ground like a knife through warm butter and went down into the ground but when it

01:31:20.600 got to 20 feet everything shut off and it was completely silent no lights no engine no nothing

01:31:26.320 and um yeah and it was really well and there were right where the police officer said he saw two

01:31:33.620 beings dressed in white coveralls they were diminutive he said they were small like children

01:31:37.780 and he the police officer thought like what am i looking at is there a car that's overturned like

01:31:43.780 he's trying to provide a conventional explanation which generally what happens and one of them he

01:31:48.360 was kind of calling out to one of them in his patrol car one of them turned and looked right

01:31:52.460 at him he got eye contact with one of them and his wife mary zamora who went on camera for me

01:31:56.760 for the first time she goes whatever my husband saw he was never the same and he never wanted to

01:32:02.060 to talk about it but anyway so that's the the symbols that's the original that's the real

01:32:07.400 symbol written spelled out by dr heineck that never made it in the movie i'm so sorry the

01:32:12.880 quality is this bad i thought it was going to be better than that so it's a little pyramid with an

01:32:16.180 equal sign so it's like this with two lines here and then one on the top got it and did extensive

01:32:20.600 research i'm gonna keep an eye out for that yeah and there's one other document that i was going

01:32:23.780 to tell you guys not fun this kind of relates to to the name of the of the documentary we were like

01:32:28.340 what are we going to call the movie for like five years we didn't have a name for it they're like

01:32:31.960 when it when it comes when when we find it takes us that long to title these podcasts

01:32:35.340 we're still we're still working on a couple right now i know it takes a long time so we came across

01:32:41.400 this 1947 memo by general nathan twining and basically given an assessment of ufos and he

01:32:50.080 says the phenomenon is reported as something real and not visionary or fictitious and we thought

01:32:55.920 they've been calling this the uaps the phenomenon since 1947 so we're calling our film the phenomenon

01:33:02.700 and in the t-shirts we took this exact font from 1947 that's where our t-shirts came from that's

01:33:07.820 definitely a phenomenon that's definitely a better title than equal sign mountain you know

01:33:11.620 yeah and the thing is is that we're not screaming from the hilltops ets here little aliens we're

01:33:16.540 just putting the evidence on the table allowing people to make up their own minds go watch the

01:33:19.780 phenomenon do it yeah do it that's all we got that's all we got james i appreciate you coming

01:33:27.300 on impulsive man i really appreciate you guys inviting me on seriously i had a really good

01:33:30.980 time and i hope i didn't talk too much no that's great that's what you're supposed to do okay cool

01:33:34.740 it's a podcast yeah appreciate you uh watch the phenomenon obviously where can they find you on

01:33:38.360 social media well go to the phenomenon film the phenomenon film.com and it's got all the

01:33:45.160 information it's got the trailer it's got links to where you can rent the film for like a couple

01:33:49.100 bucks if you want to buy the film then you should get it from itunes or vimeo because it comes with

01:33:54.320 three hours of bonus material uh for no additional cost and i didn't realize that i provided three

01:33:59.420 hours of killer material that just didn't make it in the movie and only two platforms accepted it

01:34:04.860 and that was itunes and vimeo but if you're going to rent it just rent it from the cheapest place

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Impaulsive with Logan Paul - March 04, 2021

E262 James Fox Reveals Most Compelling Alien Evidence Ever

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