00:01:00.000Hi, this is Kylie Brakeman, Angela Jaritana, Jeremy Culhane, Patrick McDonald, and we're the hosts of the Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists podcast.
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00:01:18.680And we do a little Halloween sometimes.
00:01:24.500He gets right up next to the microphone.
00:01:26.240I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
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00:01:34.660Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:01:42.140I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcast,
00:01:47.800the true crime comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
00:01:52.180Each week I bring on an amazing guest.
00:03:25.000Um, I believe the last boys only episode we were on, uh, I said some pretty harsh things to George about his, his beliefs, um, and, and religion overall that, that people were unhappy about.
00:03:38.240And the following week, a YouTuber named CoffeeZilla made a three-part series that he had spent a year making
00:03:50.480called Investigating Logan Paul's Biggest Scam that caught a lot of traction.
00:03:55.640He put a lot of work into it, and it was a very well-made series.
00:03:58.900So today I'll be going on record for the first time in over a year to talk about the debacle that became CryptoZoo and then what we're doing to move forward.0.97
00:04:11.500If you have not seen the video that I also released in tandem today with this episode, it's essentially a statement that I made about the scam allegations and the scam accusations because that's some pretty serious shit.
00:04:26.800i take that very seriously so if you have not watched that video i ask you to do that first
00:04:31.240um but it is a little difficult to dive into it because we know you guys you guys watch impulsive
00:04:38.900for fun laughs giggles uh maybe maybe like the guests we have on our show and today we're going
00:04:44.560to be talking about uh some pretty serious stuff so if you're not tuned into it um maybe this isn't
00:04:51.380the episode for you but but it's it's time this stuff is addressed and today's the episode for
00:04:54.600that i think well i think by that by mid episode we'll get into some other stuff but obviously like
00:04:59.920this has to be handled and it's it's been a um rocky end of 2022 and a rocky start for the
00:05:08.800beginning of 2023 um i'm sure tremendously for you but also for anybody on this team i'm gonna
00:05:14.180try to take the reins of the opposing viewpoint today as i generally do on the show i'm gonna ask
00:05:19.380you a lot of questions that may be i don't know easy hard to answer whatever um obviously
00:05:24.480you asked coffee to be on it was something that he didn't want to do can i give context to this
00:05:29.320situation so of course so um yeah first of all i don't know what you're going to ask i haven't
00:05:32.680seen these questions i know did you send them to him you send them to him and then i'm sure
00:05:38.360probably maybe you have some uh anyways let me give some context to this situation crypto zoo
00:05:42.700is a blockchain project that i created about a year and a half ago um and the question everyone's
00:05:49.260going to be asking is why now? Why talk about this series or this project right now? So again,
00:05:55.920this YouTuber named CoffeeZilla released a three-part series. He spent a year making it,
00:06:00.540and I'll be honest, it was very good. He is entertaining, and he's a very good storyteller.
00:06:08.160I mean, essentially, if you're making content on YouTube, I assume it's to get views and to get
00:06:12.360people watching your stuff. I get what he's doing. If you put my name in the title and you
00:06:15.960label it Logan Paul scam, you're going to get more views. The problem with it is that is not
00:06:20.920true. And I've made tweets here and there stating my case, but I'm going to give some context
00:06:27.000with the back and forth that I've had with CoffeeZilla. So here are some receipts. Again,
00:06:34.820just for context. His name is Steven. The first time he reached out to me was on Christmas Eve
00:06:39.380after he released his series. He sent a misleading email as highlighted in my statement. He invited
00:06:45.440me on his show to come talk about CryptoZoo. I chose not to do that because it is now clear to
00:06:51.300me that he's milking this. Again, why would he not? This is big for him. He caught a lot of
00:06:55.900traction and gained like half a million subscribers. And I'm sure he got a decent amount of money
00:07:00.060pumping his Patreon. But I am not interested in feeding into that anymore. So we'll be answering
00:07:06.280the questions that hopefully he was going to ask me and that you're going to ask me today on this
00:07:10.560podcast um i invited him on impulsive multiple times and he has not responded my last or my
00:07:16.940email to him on december 27th was uh hey steven saw your tweet since this entire narrative has
00:07:22.920unfolded on your platform i can't imagine you having you'd mind having this discussion with
00:07:26.720me on mine of course we wouldn't monetize this episode of impulsive is scheduled for january 2nd
00:07:31.780in la we can consider a neutral location if you respond to this email by the weekend best logs
00:14:37.540if you hatch a rare animal and you breed it with another rare animal and it yields
00:14:43.220a rare hybrid animal that animal then yields and collects a token the longer you hold it
00:14:52.340then when you release into the wild you accrue your yield does that make sense that that was
00:14:58.900that was the concept and it was based off the idea that people could create these fun animals
00:15:05.620that didn't exist and this was another part of cryptozoo that got ripped apart people seem to
00:15:10.580uh people seem to to really discount the art which i i felt truthfully was uh wasn't fair um
00:15:20.320i was kind of in the middle on that one it was it it was very okay it was very basic yes i know
00:15:27.300how hard it is to merge animals that that do exist into an animal that doesn't exist and make
00:15:32.660it look like a real animal i'm gonna like i'll just like i'll just say right now bro if you take0.96
00:15:37.340an animal from crypto zoo and like a fucking picture of a monkey wearing a hat and go ask0.95
00:15:42.740like someone on the street like hey which of these is more captivating to you something tells0.97
00:15:46.300me the the the animal that doesn't exist that looks like a real hybrid animal is probably gonna
00:15:50.860win even if someone out there is skeptical or hesitant to call it some sort of art insane
00:15:57.120artistic expression there they at least probably have to agree that it falls within industry like
00:16:04.140in in the the area of industry standards for nfts at the time i mean look at some of the other
00:16:10.340projects i mean i mean shout out gary but like dude like how dare you i'm just saying bro
00:16:16.200fucking insult v friends or or doodles or whatever i mean whatever project you want to bring up0.65
00:16:20.260that's why i found this argument a little i felt that one i felt wasn't quite fair i'll listen to0.98
00:16:30.780him but like man if you were to interview and ask my artist what they thought of people just
00:16:34.420ripping their work to shreds and by the way some of them do this some of them are like
00:16:37.760post actively on reddit hybrid animals and the hybrid animals thread on reddit is hilarious and
00:16:43.280has a bunch of likes and people commenting on it but the moment that i say it's something that i'm
00:16:48.000doing it doesn't work in that context i think it was shined in a bad light i think if it didn't
00:16:54.780have the uh the negative outline on it people wouldn't no no no no no no no it's that was the
00:17:00.400first critique that happened i actually have a i want to ask you something again i'm just throwing
00:17:04.300out other people's point of views not trying to stick a uh i should okay well i'm gonna stick it
00:17:09.120into you uh i when i'm when i'm looking at this from my point of view bro i i think you guys are
00:17:15.680kind of like you're seeing it from your guys's point of view which is obvious because it's your
00:17:21.160point of view and you are not a scammer you don't hurt people you don't do these type of things so
00:17:25.140it's gonna it's gonna affect your heart because you didn't do that and for the world to look at
00:17:29.420you in that type of way it's very drowning it feels like you can't breathe because people are
00:17:35.240already painting you out to be something you're not but put a pin in that over here are people
00:17:40.260that root for you that look at you like somebody they want to be like they want to achieve like
00:17:45.380And so when they invested in your project and they're there, remember, they don't have our lifestyle. So they're working paycheck to paycheck, paycheck to paycheck. So when they go, fuck, yeah, Logan's involved in this. I know it's going to win because I've watched this guy win, win and win and win. And I want to be like this fucking guy. So I'm going to invest my hard earned money from their point of view. I get your guys's point of view because you're dealing with a legal team. You're dealing with all the people that did you wrong.
00:18:11.320but from their stance they go how dare you go and open up two other projects when i just wasted my
00:18:18.080hard-earned money on something that i believed you would do so this is a point of view that they
00:18:22.980don't care what you feel like and what coffee zilla feels like they want to demand answers for
00:18:28.940their own money 100 so what do you say to the people that uh watch you make um the the the
00:18:36.500project where you're taking pictures and all the other projects how does it feel for you in your
00:18:40.500where you leave your team saying hey shut up don't bring this up we're gonna bring this back
00:18:44.140in the future and all the answers will be explained how does it feel knowing that you0.91
00:18:49.240couldn't speak up in time and now you look like this villain and no disrespect you look like a1.00
00:18:54.220piece of shit to the people that are like yo fuck this guy sitting on millions of dollars1.00
00:18:58.420always trying to get attention and now he doesn't give a fuck about us so he's not gonna speak out1.00
00:19:02.920about it until this other fucking dude's gonna speak out and now this cocksucker is gonna talk1.00
00:19:07.100now great question very good question the answer is fucking heartbreaking george i'll get emotional0.99
00:19:13.820even speaking about it just now right now but this is what broke me people relied on me0.96
00:19:21.560to create a project and when shit wasn't working out and i found out the extent of just how bad
00:19:31.100things were behind the scenes. I had to rely on my team. I crumbled internally. And the advice was0.86
00:19:39.860while actual legal process was going on because of criminal investigation taking place that
00:19:44.880Coffeyzilla highlighted in his series, I had to stay silent. And for a fucking year, I'm hounding0.98
00:19:51.680Jeff. Hounding Jeff. How do we make this right? What's the status of the game? But where are we1.00
00:19:58.760that. They don't see that. That's crazy. The engineer stole the code who was hired by a
00:20:05.040fucking con man, a guy that I found out to be a con man, a guy that I had trusted. Not0.99
00:20:09.740just a guy that I had trusted, a guy that billionaires had trusted, a guy that fooled
00:20:15.080the Mormon church and the New York Yankees. And now in hindsight, one plus one equals
00:20:23.080fucking two i get i get that and the advisor again that i trusted was selling against my buyers0.94
00:20:31.540people that actually wanted to play this game it was like um it was like a mountain it was like a0.99
00:20:37.180mountain that that collapsed one after the other after the other i this this massive forest fire
00:20:43.520would come up i thought we put it out and then and then something else would happen and something
00:20:48.560else would happen and and then my legal team goes yo there's there is criminal investigation going
00:20:53.400on it is best to stay silent at this moment so i have another uh question i understand your point
00:21:03.500of view because i'm your friend i actually was with you when you found out and i saw how like
00:21:06.860your your face turned white and you slid up against the the fridge when you found out i was
00:21:11.020there so that's why i could boldly with my chest out be like bro i watched when this guy found the1.00
00:21:15.300news um but fuck coffee zilla fuck you no no joke what do we do for the people that were fucked i1.00
00:21:23.220and my team jeff and i'd like you to sit in jeff are are working we are at work and have been1.00
00:21:29.340working to make this game and that's part of the solution deliver the fucking project right0.85
00:21:35.220and that's never stopped there have been massive road bumps and massive obstacles along the way0.76
00:35:40.240And regardless of how strong his point was or some of the points he made or how he was able to spin it, whatever you want to say or whoever wants to say it, there is always and will always be an army that is ready for Logan Paul to make a minor mistake.
00:35:59.820now it was so timely and convenient that the three-part series dropped when you were already0.90
00:36:12.520boiling in an unholy baptism of shit because of what you had said on the show before it let me0.91
00:36:20.420tell you and so i want to i want to change gears a little bit and get ready to quote logan paul0.96
00:36:28.460present thyself because yeah i want to well you were well you very much were are germany right now
00:36:36.200fighting a a two-brong battle i mean you you've you've got your battle in in in africa and russia
00:36:41.800and you've got a different front where you're fighting for for jeff when you make that face
00:36:45.400to me what i'm saying stuff it's strange to me actually do you have anything else to say about
00:36:48.380crypto zoo get out of here i'm talking bro and you're making this face like this african russia
00:36:53.600do you know what a two front war is am i speaking a different language i just was what okay i'm
00:36:59.540kidding i'm sorry i was joking sorry i'm no actually i'm sorry why did i didn't i was trying
00:37:04.660to understand what he was talking about did uh seats hot huh uh okay let's dive in okay look0.97
00:37:09.080here's what happened so yeah you you were already i mean the scum of the inner at that point before0.99
00:37:13.960this even came out you were trash it was a wrap i'll tell you why if you didn't know you probably0.98
00:37:17.740you probably do um made some i made some pretty uh he's gonna pretty out of line comments0.96
00:37:24.480to george about george's beliefs and i said uh i'm not gonna say what i said i'm not even going
00:37:32.500there again because i'll tell you why the following three weeks have been the hardest period0.99
00:37:40.380of my fucking life buddy god kicked me in the dick as hard as he fucking could there0.99
00:37:48.640is there it's soon call that god smack i went i went god smack i went there's no way there's1.00
00:37:57.320no way we started off in uh in qatar i got i got violent food poisoning oh before that
00:38:03.780camera taken away at the airport oh yeah yeah 20 000 camera taken we were invited by qatar
00:38:10.360we land a guitar camera stripped from us all right fire fire twenty thousand dollar camera
00:38:15.300no problem no problem what you got get to get we got we got it back a couple days later but we'll
00:38:18.680get back get get to my hotel uh you know think it's just little things here and there things0.95
00:38:22.880are showing up uh uh we misscheduled um again got violent fucking food poisoning next they got0.91
00:38:30.620alcohol poisoning um uh uh uh our luggage was delayed so we had no clothes to get to our events0.96
00:38:37.840um qatar was the first time i felt the wrath of god and then and then and then and then the
00:38:44.820the zilla stuff dropped and uh uh i had some shit happen in in denmark when i when i was supposed to
00:38:51.360meet my girlfriend's parents uh i mean you got on a scuffle way outside oh me and mike got a0.97
00:38:58.780massive fight i got in his face because nina nina nina put her finger she's a pointer and she put0.64
00:39:06.760her finger in mike's face and mike rightfully so goes get your finger and i and then i instinctual1.00
00:39:13.820i go what the i'll smack the fuck out of you that's my girl no you said now my finger's in1.00
00:39:18.060your face what are you gonna do about it and i literally just and i literally just said0.99
00:39:22.860i'm going to go in the game now and i walked away but it was just a representation of just how
00:39:28.260horrible things had gotten listen i i i um ironically i defamed jesus and god and i felt
00:39:34.980his wrath and by the way i want to i want to make something clear and i'm i'm i have something i'd
00:39:39.400like to say to you that i've been thinking about but i'm gonna say that for a sec because i want0.64
00:39:42.420to hear your take on this but um i'm not a fucking atheist i believe in god people think i i don't i0.66
00:39:47.940don't believe in god it might not identify as the same god as as you but um it was just it was very0.78
00:39:54.440telling to me how the karmic energy of the universe this is what i'll call it just went
00:40:04.040right back around and and put me in my place you want me to tell you something
00:40:09.060i'll make this quick because people uh tend not to love when i talk about jesus but let me just
00:40:17.700tell you something actually no i don't i don't want to come off like kind of said this is actually
00:40:22.040because i came off like funny but i don't want people to think i'm telling a joke uh the night
00:40:26.920before it happened bro i'm sitting and i'm reading the bible and i literally say a prayer to god and
00:40:31.760I go, man, like this is when me and you were kind of like going back and forth and I was getting
00:40:35.580pissed at you. And I was like, fucking dude, I just, God, I know you love him, but I want,0.99
00:40:39.440I want, I want to kill him. I want to punch him in the face. Can I sit, can I, I want to,1.00
00:40:43.360I want to hurt. Wait, hold on, let me finish. But I know you don't want me to, and I know you love
00:40:47.820him. And I know this opportunity between two best friends could open a lot of people's eyes to who
00:40:52.820God is. So I sat there and I said, God, whatever direction. And by the way, I was getting so much
00:40:57.360heat for the Bobby Lee thing for walking off this was the period right so I sat there and I go God
00:41:02.760I go what do you want from me bro and I swear I have two witnesses God says be quiet and love
00:41:09.840and I was just like whoa and like bro like I felt it right who are the witnesses watch so I'm in the
00:41:16.620I'm in the kitchen Bell's cooking dinner and I sat there and I go Bell I think God just talked to me
00:41:20.540like I'm not trying to be like a lunatic and she goes what do you mean and I go I think I think
00:41:25.720and hear me out. I think I just got to talk out of love. I got to talk out of love. And she's like,
00:41:30.080why do you keep saying that? I was like, I don't know. I just feel like I got to talk out of love.
00:41:32.760And it was so strong in my heart, bro. I left my Bible and my phone right by bell.
00:41:38.040And I sat on the couch and I'm just sitting off and I'm like, bro, what does he, what does he want
00:41:42.000from me? What does he want from me? What does he want me to do? How can I fix this? How can I
00:41:45.200go in and portray Jesus in the best way possible? I get a phone call. I miss it because I'm over
00:41:51.380here. Another phone call, another phone call. She goes, Hey, Adam is blowing up your phone.
00:41:55.740The guy who works, you know, from the chiropractor place. And, uh, I answered the phone. He's
00:42:01.700dripping wet, bro. Like he just got out of the shower. He goes, bro, I got to tell you
00:42:04.480something. He goes, whatever you're doing, Jesus told me to tell you that he loves you.
00:42:09.960And yes. And I'm like, what? I go, why did you just say that? Bell put her knife down.
00:42:14.140I go, buddy, buddy, buddy back up. Why did you say that? He goes, I have no idea what's
00:42:18.140going on i'm in the shower because that's why he was wet he goes i'm praying about my family my
00:42:22.000friend he goes three times in my prayer god interrupted me he goes go tell george whatever
00:42:25.960he feels in his heart is right so i go whoa the next day i'm standing here on the podcast and0.91
00:42:31.740you're saying this shit and i'm like whoa he's really like spewing out his heart like he's really0.94
00:42:36.420spewing out his heart and two things i caught in our conversation that we were having when i said0.99
00:42:41.800jesus is my lord and savior you said he's mine too and that rang in my heart i go that's weird
00:42:46.420because like we we like we're not seeing that on the same page and then you were fighting that i
00:42:50.820needed a therapist and the bible wasn't enough and i said i think the bible has more uh knowledge
00:42:56.400than any man and you said i think that has merit to it wait say that again please say that again
00:43:00.040uh that the bible has more wisdom than a man who's trying to like or woman or whatever with
00:43:05.440therapist and you said yeah i believe that has merit to it and it was at that moment bro where
00:43:09.840i was like oh my god like we're we're learning so how i see it is god has an arrow right and
00:43:16.000i'm sitting here thinking i'm right and you're sitting there thinking you're right and i had a
00:43:20.440habit of speaking out of like yo i have to convince you i have to do this but sometimes it didn't come
00:43:25.060from love because i'm just i'm convicted and i'm just trying to like help you and then you're like0.97
00:43:29.700nah fuck that blah blah blah and all we had to learn is like regardless of what you say and0.98
00:43:34.040regardless what i say speak out of love speak out of love so then when the whole world went from1.00
00:43:38.140like look at his pussy he doesn't know how to talk he's so stupid he talks about jesus he walks off1.00
00:43:41.860and then you did what you did and then god literally took the whole world and flipped it1.00
00:43:46.080on its head and it was right at the moment where i was like battling i'm like god like
00:43:49.580you gave me everything that i have to sit in this chair i go am is am i speaking too much about you
00:43:55.620are people getting annoyed like what's the deal what's happening here and to be honest bro like
00:44:00.260it just came to the conclusion of this there is a very very very real god i don't care who stands
00:44:06.600before me now there is a very real god and if anything logan you should take away that bro like
00:44:11.960the japan thing was one thing but you're a good-hearted person and you learn from that and
00:44:16.860you moved on and a lot of people in the comment section was like logan doesn't deserve george
00:44:22.820george should leave and go do other podcasts and i sat there and and i really mean to say this from
00:44:27.360my heart bro like what kind of man are you that when your friend says something or does something0.94
00:44:32.240that you're like, okay, now the one time he fucks with me,0.99
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