Impaulsive with Logan Paul - Franke on $4.5M Lawsuit w⧸ Logan Paul & How He Lost EVERYTHING

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00:00:28.440 how many did you sell like actual like wallet ninja product not like copycats

00:00:33.360 probably around five million of them how much money did that make you as an 18 year old that's

00:00:38.460 over time that's over the span of like maybe 10 years but i was a millionaire by the time i was

00:00:42.780 almost at my 20th birthday i actually remember the exact moment i was taking a and i'm

00:00:48.700 looking at my bank account and i see i have over two million dollars and um i had like some like

00:00:56.580 credit cards that i'd like taken out in my parents name without them knowing

00:00:59.660 and i just was like sitting there i was like i guess i could pay it all off now and i paid

00:01:04.140 everything off and i still had over two million bucks i was like yo i'm a multi-millionaire

00:01:07.820 hey but i will say this one thing you should be as excited about all right is today's show today

00:01:22.140 Today's guest is one of the most

00:01:24.480 Innovative people in the world 0.96

00:01:26.300 What the f*** is this 0.68

00:01:27.620 While most people have ideas 0.95

00:01:29.320 He actually builds them

00:01:31.380 He's the inventor of the wallet ninja

00:01:33.640 The flex pouch

00:01:35.040 And most recently

00:01:36.460 The most viral water in the world

00:01:39.160 I'm water

00:01:40.300 Ladies and gentlemen

00:01:41.360 It's one of my best friends

00:01:42.780 Frankie

00:01:43.600 Frankie

00:01:46.760 Long time in the making this show

00:01:49.620 Yo let's go

00:01:50.400 Who's that guy

00:01:51.840 could be anyone long time in the making this show yeah man i gotta tell you i brought somebody if

00:01:58.680 that's yeah yeah this room for him we got a whole extra spot for him does he speak yeah yeah does

00:02:04.720 he speak put a mic give him a mic yo this is insane because they just flew in this is that

00:02:10.300 was you just saw our first is how you treat your guests what's on your lip yeah that is what's on

00:02:15.840 my lip bro i just came on 24 hours of flying what's on well there's did you on that 24 hours

00:02:21.300 did you eat a powdered donut at any point?

00:02:23.740 Marshmallow fluff?

00:02:24.600 Bro, I'm off the airplane.

00:02:25.760 A hardball leg.

00:02:27.040 Did you bring the blue bear on the airplane?

00:02:29.220 Bro.

00:02:29.820 Elmer's glue.

00:02:30.760 What else could it be?

00:02:31.620 Give me some more glasses.

00:02:32.120 Do you mean that I bring the blue bear?

00:02:32.780 Wait, no, no, that's your seat.

00:02:34.740 Why did you bring this?

00:02:36.240 That's your seat. 1.00

00:02:37.060 Big ass bear. 0.99

00:02:38.420 Yo, that's insane because he texted me. 0.98

00:02:40.020 He said, dude, I didn't know what you meant by this text.

00:02:42.900 Dude, he's cryptic.

00:02:44.500 These creative artists and inventors guys are...

00:02:47.040 Get out of here, bro.

00:02:48.140 All right.

00:02:48.460 Whatever I am, I'm extremely hydrated

00:02:51.760 Extremely hydrated

00:02:53.460 Wait, do you want to address the white stuff on your mouth or not?

00:02:56.260 What are you talking about?

00:02:57.280 Is that a medicine?

00:02:58.360 Yeah, you do 1.00

00:02:58.780 No, I think it might be like a pimple patch 1.00

00:03:01.300 We're probably not supposed to mention 1.00

00:03:03.320 This is K-So, brother 1.00

00:03:06.060 No, it's not anything 0.97

00:03:07.060 We don't even see anything

00:03:09.360 He said to me, save a seat next to me for a surprise guest, please 0.99

00:03:12.740 He's kind of fat as fuck, so he needs a big chair 0.99

00:03:14.860 Look at the headphones 1.00

00:03:17.820 Look at the headphones

00:03:18.960 He can only listen out of one ear

00:03:20.980 Frankie talking to the mic bro

00:03:22.460 You're the musician as well

00:03:24.980 He's a musician

00:03:25.780 Guys Frankie musician

00:03:27.780 One two

00:03:29.260 If 1.00

00:03:29.740 Talking to the fucking mic 0.99

00:03:31.680 If I had ever done this before with you 0.99

00:03:34.660 I would know how to do it

00:03:35.580 I would know how to do it 0.98

00:03:37.300 But it's been like fucking 10 years 0.98

00:03:39.180 You've definitely sat in an episode 0.96

00:03:40.560 No he did one at the wedding

00:03:41.720 Yeah he sat in

00:03:43.380 Two hours and 46 minutes in

00:03:46.220 two hours and 46 minutes in it counts yo why did you bring the blue bear

00:03:52.360 you want to know 100 the blue bear will tell you his information when he's ready to tell you

00:04:04.640 i love it i love it being friends with this guy for over a decade now has been a journey to say 0.98

00:04:13.480 the least and like it's shit like this like you come in wearing water who knew you could do that 0.97

00:04:20.260 bro this guy figured it out i did he just rip dog 0.97

00:04:26.860 is that you that was not me no anyway so yes the water is the water is wearable 0.99

00:04:38.480 and uh stop you're not coming on this show to plug your fucking product that's what i'm gonna do 0.98

00:04:45.500 what do you mean that's what i'm gonna do people are gonna people are gonna watch like two minutes 0.99

00:04:50.720 of this i'm getting the plug in right away and i'm fucking leaving i can't run it no no that's 0.91

00:04:57.860 what i do let me do it because that because then it feels more organic like it's like you're not 0.94

00:05:01.800 shilling your own product oh okay right sure you do it then go ahead this bro this guy i'll sit

00:05:06.460 here this guy he's this guy right here sorry where do i look all right down there's 19 cameras

00:05:11.880 the pipe yeah okay bro this guy right here is i swear to god one of the most unique individuals

00:05:20.480 you'll ever meet in your life i'm so lucky to have met you because it just you're one of the

00:05:26.360 most entertaining guys i know dude uh on the flight here to puerto rico for what became the 0.68

00:05:33.120 bachelor party which was just us in a fucking cave he was doing like a puppet show for three 0.89

00:05:38.540 hours making all of us laugh so hard i have to ask is the blue bear farting huh did you hear that one 0.99

00:05:46.780 i i certainly heard that bro i just came off of a long we just came off of a really long

00:05:53.000 flight bro 24 hours i have not had a chance to use the bathroom why did you bring the blue bear bro

00:05:59.380 He already said it's not going to reveal

00:06:01.600 Until the Blue Bear wants to 0.99

00:06:03.200 Wait I thought you were getting that fucking plug in 0.99

00:06:06.280 I thought you were doing the plug 0.99

00:06:08.500 No I'm doing the plug

00:06:09.120 Bro this show is a mess

00:06:10.540 Read the sign buddy

00:06:13.240 Read the sign buddy

00:06:15.220 It's that for a reason

00:06:17.160 Who knows where we're going to go next

00:06:18.780 Should we just start it all over again

00:06:21.080 Frankie everybody

00:06:23.840 Nice to be here

00:06:26.700 Thank you so much

00:06:27.420 Yeah, also, thank you for the lights.

00:06:30.420 The pleasure is mine.

00:06:31.840 Also, dude, roommate at one point lived with us for, what, a year, two years?

00:06:39.140 It was a year.

00:06:40.500 It was a year.

00:06:41.380 But I will say that.

00:06:43.080 The bear's farting, Frankie.

00:06:44.120 I have to be honest with you.

00:06:45.140 Bro, give that bear some marijuana.

00:06:46.840 Get him out of here, bro.

00:06:48.280 Or give him some gas.

00:06:49.240 Can I rapid fire some context questions?

00:06:52.440 How do you know Logan?

00:06:54.080 You can only do like two to three words.

00:06:55.740 How do I know Logan?

00:06:56.640 okay when did you meet him bro you lived in the house during what time frame

00:07:01.740 and tell us about the settlement bro okay and that's today's show guys welcome back to impulsive

00:07:08.860 it's been an absolute pleasure um one thing at a time you know if if you believe that the bear is

00:07:15.640 farting right as a host of this show you know maybe you could alleviate some of his uh maybe pain

00:07:24.620 yeah because me and me and the bear are both pretty like dude we 24 hours of flying like i

00:07:30.860 have not even hit the bathroom bro i literally walked in out of the car sat down here yeah i

00:07:37.600 mean we could get him some gas x or something what do you what do you what's in your pocket

00:07:43.800 i think there's can you help me yeah can you help me i'd love to i'd love to yeah i only have one

00:07:52.720 off yeah that's bad yo that one sounded like it was from you that's bad dude okay you have a good

00:08:01.920 arm right one help me out i'm going with you what are we doing help me out bro

00:08:08.380 okay they are approaching bear pulling him over to the captaincy

00:08:15.580 It seems like he's straddling him.

00:08:17.660 You see the...

00:08:18.780 Okay.

00:08:22.340 Oh, I can't see. 0.98

00:08:25.780 Oh, there's an exposed butthole.

00:08:27.920 The bear is clogged.

00:08:30.420 And, uh...

00:08:31.720 I can't.

00:08:33.020 I can't.

00:08:34.180 No, yeah, you can't.

00:08:34.940 I can't.

00:08:35.560 Reach your bat.

00:08:36.600 Bro, bro.

00:08:38.460 Bro, the bear is...

00:08:39.820 Bro, there could be anything in it.

00:08:42.360 Could you reach the...

00:08:43.140 There could be a live animal.

00:08:44.140 Could you reach the bionic arm in?

00:08:45.580 bro no i wouldn't reach i reach my good arm if i was gonna do it you do it no i can't do that bro

00:08:51.440 you gotta help the bear because i have to narrate frank you're the guest we want you to do it you do

00:08:56.060 it you do we have been flying for the past full day okay let me ask you a question if let me ask 0.93

00:09:02.000 you a question i haven't shit in like three days it gets longer every time he says it if you as i'm 0.99

00:09:07.180 remembering as i'm talking if you were constipated and someone had to reach into your asshole which 0.99

00:09:11.760 they do right wouldn't you want someone you know that you've been flying with for the past few days 0.99

00:09:16.580 to do it for you my brother i haven't been flying with a bear but you're my you're my brother yeah

00:09:21.860 just just it's not that deep in bro just just reach bro why did you color his butt i didn't 0.94

00:09:28.660 color why is it black would you use a flame come on come on i'm just the furthest away we're gonna 0.97

00:09:35.000 have to we're gonna have to censor this i know we're not we can't put this inside a pillow i'll 0.99

00:09:39.500 do it i'll fucking that's that's a fucking man right there my guy so so so there is something 0.99

00:09:45.800 good in there it's a little hard oh i've never been so excited in my life oh shit oh shit oh 1.00

00:09:54.440 what the fuck ew dude what is oh he's really in there dude he's elbow deep in the bear there it 1.00

00:10:02.520 No, you feel it you've that yep, that's it. What the fuck? 1.00

00:10:08.800 Why is your turds on dude? 1.00

00:10:11.660 Bro, we've been on the plane for 24 hours

00:10:15.340 Chocolate what what else does a bear?

00:10:18.720 Chocolate. Yeah, okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. That's I think so. It's a scroll. I think that in there. Yeah, I think that okay

00:10:27.940 No, don't actually okay. Hey, I keep the bear. Yeah, yeah, all right

00:10:32.340 so there's chocolate all over my fucking hand no it's fine it's fine all right here we go it's 0.99

00:10:38.480 fine oh that's what was clogging up the bear no way that's what was clogging up the bear 0.99

00:10:46.600 a four million dollar check wallet ninja yes that's what was clogging up the bear

00:10:54.020 Oh my god

00:10:56.800 No way

00:10:57.900 A 4 million dollar check for wildlife

00:11:00.920 Yeah and suddenly

00:11:02.400 My stomach feels so much better

00:11:04.520 Yo that's amazing

00:11:07.300 I can't believe

00:11:10.300 You went to such great lengths

00:11:12.340 Can I take a break to wash this 1.00

00:11:14.960 Fucking shit off my hand 1.00

00:11:16.260 Give me one second 1.00

00:11:17.840 Wait he has

00:11:20.140 He has a paper towel in there as well

00:11:23.040 Okay

00:11:25.040 Frank let's add a little bit of context

00:11:27.820 One of Logan's long time good friends

00:11:30.120 You guys faced a

00:11:31.020 I've known you for a while Mike

00:11:32.200 Well no I know I'm narrating

00:11:34.500 But I'm just saying the context of the show

00:11:37.640 Is you guys have known each other for a long time

00:11:39.740 You guys faced a

00:11:41.480 Very challenging litigation

00:11:43.760 Together against a corporate giant

00:11:45.880 Who was trying to steal your 0.99

00:11:48.080 Very fucking amazing idea 0.99

00:11:51.660 Thank you. And this has happened to me multiple times in my life. By the way, this is a nasty trick that large corporations are able to use in order to beat up and bully small time inventors. And this is a real thing that people are able to do. They're able to literally bully you out of anything that you own simply by litigating and creating a big pain in your life. 0.95

00:12:15.160 And so that's what we're going to talk about today a little bit.

00:12:18.520 I mean, that's a great segue.

00:12:20.360 Jokes aside, that's actually really awesome.

00:12:22.280 Which part?

00:12:23.880 The fact that you won a $4 million federal lawsuit.

00:12:27.320 Oh, you want to get straight to business.

00:12:28.780 You don't care about the constipated bear.

00:12:30.880 No, he's good now.

00:12:31.900 He's good now.

00:12:33.140 No, it's insane.

00:12:34.100 It's one of the many journeys we've been on.

00:12:36.560 So just for some context.

00:12:39.400 Yeah.

00:12:40.060 For those who have followed my vlog journey over the years.

00:12:43.580 Right.

00:12:43.820 if you go back and look at vlog number one it's uh us at burning man and when i say us i mean me

00:12:48.660 frankie and eugene who's over there in that corner and others but when you talk about like a

00:12:53.500 a day one literally like day one vlog vlog number one you know i remember that first vlog and uh

00:13:02.880 i remember you you asked me you go what do you think about this vlogging thing you know which

00:13:09.400 is which now is like a historical question to ask to be like hey what do you think of vlogging

00:13:13.520 i was like hey bro i'm going to burning man you know sounds like a good place to try it out yeah

00:13:18.320 and if and if uh if you guys literally look at the first ever vlog it's just me and you

00:13:24.920 just running around guy and a couple of the boys yep insane but since then it's been a insane

00:13:31.240 journey uh i'd say the recent most insane thing is this lawsuit that frankie won he called me one

00:13:39.520 day and asked if i wanted to fund the lawsuit and said if we win i'll split i'll split the winnings

00:13:46.240 with you 50 50 and i was like how much do you think it's going to cost and he was honest he's

00:13:51.680 like yo this could be like i don't like how you're setting the story up i i think you need to and i'm

00:13:56.780 going to say this and i'm going to walk off the set yeah and i and i want to touch on both those

00:14:00.040 things i think you need to help people understand why what the product is yeah i got you tell the

00:14:05.300 Yeah, yeah, I missed that part.

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00:15:09.600 Now back to the show. There's never

00:15:11.220 been an episode that I've been as

00:15:13.280 confident about the fact that this

00:15:15.040 Puerto Rico has the worst flight patterns ever and that I need

00:15:17.260 to make this flight and leaving you two alone.

00:15:19.300 I know you are going to be more than happy to

00:15:21.220 handle that. Just you two and I'm excited for it.

00:15:23.700 Is there any chance

00:15:24.980 that, Caleb, I guess this question's for you,

00:15:27.520 you could create

00:15:28.440 AI for me for some

00:15:30.800 cutaways. We have weeks before.

00:15:32.740 This will go out in a couple weeks.

00:15:35.400 Maybe just for a couple questions

00:15:37.000 where I ask a couple AI questions. 0.99

00:15:38.660 What the fuck are you talking about? You just create an AI. 0.99

00:15:40.600 We're not doing that. Stop.

00:15:42.660 Shut the fuck up, bro. 1.00

00:15:44.200 I have a real question. 1.00

00:15:46.060 I'll do it.

00:15:49.780 I'll do it.

00:15:50.100 No, you won't. 1.00

00:15:51.420 Bro, you just reached into a bear's asshole 1.00

00:15:54.240 and pulled out an oversized 1.00

00:15:56.080 happy Gilmore style 1.00

00:15:58.140 The fact that you guys covered the end in chocolate makes you fucking sick. 1.00

00:16:02.140 You guys are, both of you are twisted. 1.00

00:16:04.860 Let me, let me, I got this. 0.99

00:16:06.260 Mike's right.

00:16:07.200 When Frankie was 18 years old, he was already a serial inventor.

00:16:13.420 Think about that.

00:16:14.700 How many people do you know that are out here inventing stuff?

00:16:19.320 Turns out kid had a knack for it.

00:16:21.740 First things first, that he invented the super looper.

00:16:26.220 It was one of the first.

00:16:27.380 it's sick doing this with you bro because you know my life yeah like probably like no one else

00:16:33.260 yeah so you're you know like some of these nuances that don't even exist on the internet

00:16:37.040 oh yeah wait till i get into the magic oh my god so bro this kid met this was the kid that

00:16:41.680 always pearlman met when he was like yeah i remember 11 years old and you met up with 0.65

00:16:46.260 pearlman at a train station or some shit to teach me union square union square yeah in the city

00:16:50.520 yeah so so you just ultra creative uh you you go back and you'll find footage of this kid on the 0.95

00:16:57.780 news plugging his his plane that he invented called the super looper it was a plane that you

00:17:01.980 throw and it will come right back to you and he was debuting it at like a toy convention and toy

00:17:06.700 fair had some traction and then when frankie was 18 years old he invented a product called the

00:17:13.560 wallet ninja wildly successful product made you a lot of money at a very young age that's right

00:17:23.940 i think you learned a lot with so much money i didn't know what to do with it yeah like you

00:17:29.400 the first time uh we were hanging out in new york you picked me up in your rolls royce

00:17:33.280 that's right actually actually actually eugene picked me up in the rolls royce because i was 0.58

00:17:39.060 fucking hammered i we had a we were out we were cooked and he came to get us in the rules yeah 0.79

00:17:45.700 i was like bro i don't know you bro please don't take any videos and but i have to throw up they 0.99

00:17:51.620 pulled over i opened the side of the door of the rolls royce bro we're like 19 year old kids

00:17:56.200 at the time i'm just throwing up outside of the rolls royce in new york you know the funny thing

00:18:00.620 is at that time in my life i didn't even know what like i knew what the internet was but i didn't

00:18:05.300 know what social media was or what any of that yeah even was like i would i was just making videos

00:18:11.780 for fun i've been i'm like you i've had a camera in my hand since i was like a child since i was

00:18:16.060 like eight years old i've been running around with a little mini dv you know so uh the the start was

00:18:24.420 very very early on yeah and it was similar i think like pretty early we realized like oh both like 0.94

00:18:30.040 pretty goofy ass kids like doing crazy shit like you've gone viral in different ways than i have 0.98

00:18:37.560 including you threw a dildo party on a bridge in new york you ordered so many dildos how many 0.99

00:18:45.040 dildos did you order for people to party with yeah i try i try not to uh remember that part 0.98

00:18:50.220 of my life because i wonder what the fuck was i doing i mean it worked um but it was really it 0.69

00:18:56.040 was really just about seeing opportunities in life that no one else could see and also kind of like 0.84

00:19:05.020 taking this approach that you can literally do anything you know so coming up with like hey if

00:19:11.680 I could get out thousands of people with dildos or I mean it didn't start with the dildos it started

00:19:15.940 that was a post uh post party journey it started with the parties um yeah when I was 18 I was doing

00:19:24.160 some of the largest underground parties in new york and i think that was around the time that we

00:19:28.780 met yeah that was around the time i had way too much money way too many fancy things and then i

00:19:34.820 met you and you were just the guy that was like into making videos and i was like this is perfect

00:19:40.960 this is this is just like an alternate version of me yeah especially even we both had the magic tie

00:19:47.020 we both love magic at a young age like you sold magic dvds about this the levitating trick which

00:19:52.800 was he showed me this he showed me this dvd he managed to sell as an 11 year old like actually

00:19:57.800 people were buying this dvd it was so bad i can't believe i can't believe people bought it well they

00:20:03.700 did they did buy it they're like bro this isn't you didn't teach me how to levitate yeah so how

00:20:09.200 much do you want me to just sorry sorry let me like like let let me let are you leaving i love

00:20:15.800 you hey hey mike can you talk to me and see if they can set up some more flights yeah i got you

00:20:21.480 Yeah, I got you

00:20:22.740 Mike, thank you so much for joining us

00:20:24.780 It was

00:20:25.860 I'm going to give you a clap like this

00:20:29.500 Hey, and if you need it

00:20:30.520 If you have any questions

00:20:33.140 Okay

00:20:33.980 Yeah, okay

00:20:35.860 Alright, alright

00:20:38.200 So look, let me ask you

00:20:40.260 I know the Wallet Ninja was wildly successful

00:20:42.720 How many units did you actually sell?

00:20:45.820 Of the Wallet Ninja?

00:20:49.760 It's a

00:20:50.800 it's a bit of a disputed number because if we're talking about how many designs of the actual

00:20:57.380 Wallet Ninja have been sold around the world I would estimate it to be between 20 and 50 million

00:21:02.400 because we are one of the most counterfeited multi-tools on the entire planet you know to

00:21:08.960 the point where at one point I believe in Indonesia when you were flying through the airport you know

00:21:14.060 when they would have the sign that says like no knives no scissors and it would say no Wallet Ninja

00:21:18.560 Wow.

00:21:19.120 So we were part of the official government sign.

00:21:22.740 And the Wallet Ninja, it's really easy to understand,

00:21:25.580 but it's an 18-to-1 pocket tool the size of a credit card

00:21:28.460 that can do basically everything you need.

00:21:30.460 Right.

00:21:31.860 It's fantastic.

00:21:32.780 And the design is what made it unique.

00:21:35.120 But how many did you sell?

00:21:36.880 Like actual Wallet Ninja product, not copycats?

00:21:40.060 Probably around 5 million of them.

00:21:42.380 How much money did that make you as an 18-year-old?

00:21:44.740 Well, that's over time.

00:21:45.960 That's over the span of maybe 10 years.

00:21:47.860 but um i mean i was a millionaire by the time i was almost at my 20th birthday you know i remember 0.82

00:21:55.460 i actually remember the exact moment i was taking a shit and i'm looking at my bank account and i

00:22:02.980 see i have over two million dollars and um i had like some like credit cards that i'd like taken 0.93

00:22:09.100 out in my parents name without them knowing and i just was like sitting there i was like i guess i

00:22:13.240 could pay it all off now and i paid everything off and i still had two over two million bucks

00:22:17.640 i was like yo i'm a multi-millionaire i came out to my i came out told my mom like yo i'm a

00:22:22.120 multi-millionaire but you know that was also the downfall of my that was like the moment in my life

00:22:28.840 that really everything like collapsed and i had to like be destroyed in order to rebuild why because

00:22:35.880 it did you not spend the money appropriately or like what like what what what happened so

00:22:40.800 you're 19 years old you've got millions of dollars and that's the only thing i ever wanted when i was

00:22:49.080 a kid was to be a millionaire right i thought that was like the life goal you know coming 0.97

00:22:53.340 as in as a an immigrant family coming to this country living on welfare until we're 14 years

00:23:00.060 old uh just seeing the struggle seeing how we can't afford things like you know we don't we 1.00

00:23:06.200 can't pay for heat in our house so we're like freezing yeah because you guys moved from russia

00:23:10.020 as well that's a crazy part of the story their parents moved here i was i was born in america

00:23:14.880 but my family came from russia they came from ukraine so my family immigrated from ukraine

00:23:20.360 to russia to america but um yeah when you speak russian i speak fluent russian yeah insane yeah

00:23:29.080 when you guys start speaking russian to just say something in russian prove it

00:23:34.140 I love you, beautiful fish

00:23:36.960 Sexy

00:23:37.840 Sexy

00:23:39.560 What do you say, what do you say, what do you say, Eugene?

00:23:42.280 Don't worry about that

00:23:43.120 Bro, Eugene, what do you say?

00:23:44.080 Someone will translate it for you in the comments and you'll know 0.99

00:23:47.160 Should I be bricked up type shit? 1.00

00:23:49.160 No 1.00

00:23:49.600 That's fire

00:23:50.360 That's fire

00:23:51.480 You're my fruit, you're my sweet fish

00:23:54.580 I want to get out of the sea from you

00:23:56.880 Yeah

00:23:58.320 Yo, what's he saying, bro? 0.99

00:24:02.280 Someone in the comments is going to have to translate that shit for sure. 0.99

00:24:04.700 So you speak Russian. 1.00

00:24:06.780 You're all these things.

00:24:07.580 Your parents are like, you know, they're hardworking Russian people.

00:24:11.180 They're hardworking people, man.

00:24:12.080 And, you know, so, you know, the only goal at that point as a kid is to not be poor.

00:24:20.600 That is the only goal in my head, right?

00:24:23.300 And, you know, as young as I was like 10, 11 years old, I always had this fantasy of what my life would look like

00:24:30.460 and the cars that I would drive and the house that I would live in.

00:24:33.520 And, you know, it's interesting when you actually get that,

00:24:37.580 especially at such a young age, you begin to kind of realize that,

00:24:42.600 hey, I'm driving this Rolls Royce around Brooklyn and everyone's looking at me.

00:24:46.560 But wait a minute, they're not looking at me.

00:24:48.380 They're looking at the car.

00:24:49.520 So now if I don't have the car, I don't feel complete when I go out.

00:24:52.780 I can't go out without my car.

00:24:54.040 If I'm not wearing my chain, if I'm not wearing my Rolex, I don't feel like I'm me.

00:24:58.020 so now i i realized this i began to go through this like breakdown of i i am becoming a slave

00:25:04.500 to my possessions i am people are looking at the things they're not looking at me they don't care

00:25:10.460 about me and that's when i kind of had this like collapse of my life where i wanted to just

00:25:15.760 remove everything material and uh this kind of spiraled into like my music career and like

00:25:24.520 wanting to really just go broke for music and being willing to spend everything that i had

00:25:31.500 because i felt like i had to sacrifice this thing that almost wasn't mine and maybe that's a bit of

00:25:36.700 like imposter syndrome just like feeling like it wasn't me who made it but i felt like i didn't make

00:25:41.220 it for the right reasons i felt like i didn't i didn't make it like i just made it for the sake

00:25:48.520 of money. And that made me feel empty.

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00:27:40.480 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.

00:27:43.600 No, no, no.

00:27:44.260 I mean, like.

00:27:44.780 I didn't even get on the C list.

00:27:45.740 Like, I'm not even average.

00:27:46.580 I'm not even passing.

00:27:47.540 I'm failing.

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00:27:59.740 You made the wallet ninja for the sake of money?

00:28:02.820 Yeah.

00:28:03.260 Like you were chasing the bag.

00:28:05.780 Chasing the bag.

00:28:06.580 even though even though ultimately you did deliver a product that many people found very useful

00:28:13.140 absolutely and i had made hundreds of things before that before the wallet ninja took off

00:28:18.140 yeah but um yeah i mean in retrospect i was making it just because i'm like i know people

00:28:26.900 this is going to click with people and i can make money off of this i wasn't thinking let me build

00:28:31.900 a brand let me build something that's going to be impactful that's going to last for for

00:28:36.600 generations ultimately it probably did turn into that yeah but honestly the 17 18 year old me that

00:28:42.940 was coming up with the wallet ninja was just strictly like i'm tired of being broke i need

00:28:47.900 to do something that's gonna so now yeah sure now i've relived an entire life and now i'm like

00:28:56.220 yeah so what yeah yeah so what but i had to go through that journey in order to um i don't want

00:29:04.680 to say end back in a similar place because i'm not at a similar place at all now i only care about

00:29:09.660 generational greatness i do not care about the bag i do care about the bag as a byproduct but

00:29:17.900 i am not focused on the bag i'm focused on true greatness true innovation making something that

00:29:22.900 truly will impact the world help the world impact generations to come that will outlive me that

00:29:29.340 will outlive my entire family history that in a thousand years people will still be like

00:29:33.160 that is actual greatness yeah wwe universe we've got some huge news your favorite wwe podcasts

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00:30:12.480 like to close the wallet ninja loop by actually continuing what we were saying earlier in that

00:30:18.660 i give this context of this wallet ninja in being wildly successful when you were so young but

00:30:24.320 a marker that it is indeed this generational product is how many times it was copied

00:30:32.940 and one of those companies copied it too many times in a traceable way that allowed you to

00:30:40.380 take them to federal court should we talk about the lawsuit it's the lawsuit time bro because

00:30:44.800 now they have the context is it time it's time bro again because this story is overdue long

00:30:51.240 overdue this is a multi-year in the making story yeah you got involved in you've been in it for

00:30:57.480 like four or five years i was in it for seven yeah so i was working on it before you even

00:31:03.820 stepped in yeah yeah so so so this company rips off your design you see it you and then what you

00:31:12.780 shoot him an email or like because because i know you can avoid lawsuits sometimes out of court and

00:31:20.120 and offer them a settlement right and say just stop producing the product like what what happened

00:31:24.840 when you first reach out to them for copying the wallet ninja so we reached out to them and

00:31:30.500 for context at this point i had been sued a lot for a bunch of random things ranging from

00:31:38.540 including patent infringement which you know i don't as a person just creating you don't really

00:31:44.460 know the laws and sometimes you make something and all of a sudden someone will send you a patent

00:31:48.660 that they have and you'll be like i didn't even know that this existed yeah but if the patent

00:31:52.560 exists they have the rights they're the ones that can enforce it so i had a lot of experience being

00:31:57.960 on the bad side of the patent litigation and i saw where all of my weak points were i saw why

00:32:04.400 it was a losing case in my situation there were certain products that you've never even heard of

00:32:08.440 that i scrapped because i got a letter in the mail and i'm like not worth it they're right done yeah

00:32:13.140 and that's what a logical person does because the law is the highest power in this country

00:32:17.820 the law is the only thing that can allow you to actually make things happen to people who don't

00:32:24.800 want them to happen to right only through the power of the law and that's why any industry

00:32:30.200 that you're in you need to know the law that is that surrounds it um so when i first reached out

00:32:35.440 to them you know obviously you just send a cease and desist letter and you know you find out

00:32:39.780 kind of what they're up to and um they told me that they had sold over a million units

00:32:45.760 or almost a million units somewhere in that number i was like wow okay all right i'm down to settle

00:32:53.020 you know like we could talk about a settlement you know obviously you know you compared the two

00:32:58.300 photos it's pretty much the identical product yeah i want to i want to put a picture on the

00:33:02.580 screen of wildlines product and your product and even just like looking at them they're pretty

00:33:08.680 fucking similar someone even called the exact same just reversed and and he had a he had a 0.69

00:33:14.840 patent on his product original design the whole nine yards i had a patent on the product um 0.97

00:33:20.380 so if we're gonna get nuanced into design patent law and at this point having gone through a federal

00:33:29.920 trial and being in so part of so many legal lawsuits i i know more about patents than than

00:33:34.500 your average person right and i take pride in knowing about patents because that's my business

00:33:39.200 intellectual property right like at the core of whatever i do anything that i create anything

00:33:43.600 that comes out of my mind i have to know that it's good enough that i could get protection on it

00:33:47.620 ideally across the world because otherwise you don't have anything right so when they had told

00:33:53.320 us that they had sold over a million units uh i said okay so let's let's talk settlement i think

00:33:59.260 we offer them something you know pretty reasonable and uh they counter offered with 750 dollars which

00:34:05.860 is one hour of lawyer time and i actually i have that printed out their their settlement offer of

00:34:11.640 750 dollars it's pretty crazy that's crazy and the audacity and what did you what was your what

00:34:18.980 was your settlement offer they sold a million units do you remember what you first pitched

00:34:25.000 them to settle that before taking it to the court uh maybe half a million bucks okay a deal

00:34:29.980 you have a million bucks and that's a deal and they came back with 750 half a million dollars

00:34:35.100 pre-litigation we haven't spent any money on lawyers we just sent a letter there's no expenses

00:34:40.220 that's 500k straight profit that's a good deal yeah okay um because i've done a lot of settlements

00:34:46.740 because a lot of people knock me off anything i make gets counterfeited yeah been happening since

00:34:51.700 i was a kid yeah you know and and to me it's the most flattering sign if i were to make something

00:34:55.620 that didn't get copied i'd be like man yeah i suck right so that's the biggest sign um so

00:35:02.100 yeah they offered me 750 bucks and and i remember we had a conversation with their lawyers and we 0.57

00:35:10.120 were like going into details and i was like you guys don't want to up your settlement offer at

00:35:16.080 all. And they're like, no, you have no case. You have no case. And then I show them the photo of

00:35:21.600 them side by side, which we should definitely put up on the screen. And I'm like, but they look

00:35:26.060 exactly the same. They're like, no, but we changed that line over here and that line is over there.

00:35:30.620 Right. Now, if you are a person who doesn't know anything about patent law and you chat GPT it or

00:35:38.580 you read it technically, that's black and white, you would think that you're right because it's

00:35:44.660 the line changed it's it's different it's not the same thing but i know something which is a valid

00:35:50.460 test in patent law which is called the common observer test and that's would a common observer

00:35:55.700 a regular person look at two things and think that they were the same and if the answer is yes

00:36:01.480 then you infringe so just knowing that one bit of information was enough for me to

00:36:07.260 realize that this is that the power in the case is not so much uh our case it's more of their

00:36:16.840 lapse in judgment that they don't know this or that their client doesn't think that this is real

00:36:21.960 okay so then you didn't settle i guess you know take me through the journey of deciding to take

00:36:30.460 this to federal court because that's also no small feat you're just you're literally just

00:36:36.980 like a single guy right going up against a massive company that that is like they're wildly

00:36:43.700 successful they're wildlands a big company they make a lot of products and have a lot of backing

00:36:48.200 and money they have thousands of products they had 15 lawyers throughout the entire case whereas

00:36:52.940 we had just uh our two guys they had 15 different lawyers throughout the entire case when we were at

00:37:00.480 trial there there were six of them there right and um here's here's how the here's how the thought

00:37:07.820 process really went i didn't play the game i played the player i didn't think that we had the 0.97

00:37:14.540 best case in the world i just thought that they were stupid and that's the truth because the way 0.92

00:37:20.960 that their lawyers uh questioned me and the way that uh the way that they uh deposed me 0.99

00:37:30.600 the questions that they asked me in the deposition and the and the owner of the company of the owner

00:37:36.840 of wow line his perspective on the entire thing striked me as someone who thinks that they can

00:37:42.580 buy their way out of it with money so i knew that in the short term he would probably win

00:37:48.640 if he's just bullying with money but long term the law will always prevail um so the the real

00:37:56.220 moment that i realized i want to take this all the way was after they deposed me i remember you

00:38:00.440 called me you're like you know i think i think i have an interesting pitch for you and you have 0.98

00:38:05.840 you've you've pitched me some crazy fucking shit bro you pitched me the number song which was also 0.99

00:38:10.520 just a crazy bitch we did it absolute banger we'll get we'll get to the number song but like 1.00

00:38:15.520 bro when did i when did what when did i come into the fold no you you came into the fold i knew early 0.99

00:38:22.920 on i knew i i knew this one simple thing that i had lost on before in like a patent situation which

00:38:29.600 is the common observer test right and i knew that their thing looked exactly like ours and they had

00:38:35.680 sold a million right i didn't know the rest of it but that's probably about when i pitched you

00:38:41.080 because i knew that you sold you sold a million of something you're offering 750 dollars there's

00:38:46.960 some disconnect yeah my instinct was telling me something is something is wrong and if they're 0.95

00:38:52.860 stupid that is our ideal situation that's what we want yeah i remember just you gave me just 0.97

00:38:59.740 phenomenal updates on the case because you know bro i'd be cutting half a million dollar checks 0.98

00:39:05.180 over and over and over and i'm like oh so like what like i hope this plays out my guy so so for

00:39:11.880 2.3 million deep my guy so for for for some context i'll i'll i gotta i mean i gotta say

00:39:19.200 this part but you gave me over two million dollars on a handshake pretty much we didn't

00:39:27.160 really have like a real contract we just pretty much said you got this yeah i got this you got

00:39:35.540 this yeah i got this and we and we went so i i turn it back to you why why would you trust me 0.98

00:39:42.000 with that well first and foremost i looked at the fucking products i said dog that's the exact same 0.97

00:39:50.960 i was the common observer and i was like this is this is ridiculous and i and i and i know that was 0.97

00:39:56.740 an original design so knowing very little about patent law i was like this it seems like it has

00:40:02.440 legs and then i i got a third party lawyer to look at he's like yeah it seems like it has legs and

00:40:07.680 then you are incredibly convincing you're you're i mean bro you're a salesman you're you're like

00:40:14.660 that's why your video for i'm water went viral it's like you're a salesman and so you convinced

00:40:22.720 me because i think you convinced yourself that you were going to give it your all to win this

00:40:27.780 case because when we started looking into the numbers and you kept this is one of the updates

00:40:32.980 you gave me you told me that it appears like they may have committed what's called willful

00:40:39.680 infringement meaning right they actually knew that they were copying you and we may have stumbled

00:40:47.040 upon evidence that could prove that which would then equate to trouble damages which is what three

00:40:53.640 times correct up to three times up to three times the normal damages it's like it's like the slot

00:40:58.420 machine is the bonus yeah yeah spin yeah so when you call me and told me that you know that they 0.96

00:41:03.220 may have done this willfully i was like yo press on that fucking nerve and then you were just 0.88

00:41:07.800 so diligent and thorough like i i would hate to be up against you but i have no hard feelings 0.95

00:41:13.680 towards that man he paid us four million dollars dude thank you well hey yeah but he tried not to 0.87

00:41:19.520 even after he won the fucking trial this dude uh appeals it he appeals it and it and it goes 0.83

00:41:26.120 another layer and frankie calls me he's like yeah man like i know like i'm ready to do the podcast 0.91

00:41:31.800 i know you said when we win the lawsuit let's do the podcast because i thought it was a great

00:41:35.100 story and a great idea and i'm like bro yeah technically we won but like we don't have the

00:41:40.500 money he could still get the money back and so you you you went to appellate court one there

00:41:46.620 then we had to petition to get the money that we had to spend extra for appellate court so we got

00:41:52.180 another like what 250k or some shit like i think that number is closer to 4.5 honestly yeah yeah

00:41:58.100 i mean we smoked it bro the day you call me and you're like yo they awarded us over four million

00:42:03.160 dollars it was just it was it was fucking glorious and i know that guy is out over seven million

00:42:08.680 dollars over seven million dollars yeah i offered him half a million day one yeah he's out over 0.90

00:42:16.320 seven million dollars let that be a lesson that ego is just like sand sand in the wind it's it's

00:42:24.220 ego's the death of men and i even remember you said it their lawyers were just ditzes they were 1.00

00:42:30.340 just they were just idiots you you you told me a story about you went to the bathroom one day and 1.00

00:42:35.740 one of the lawyers was like their lawyers was like this this case is my retirement plan or 1.00

00:42:41.200 that's that's true like that's true like bro i didn't i didn't hear that personally but i was

00:42:45.640 told that by someone that was in the in the bathroom with them they said that they're like

00:42:50.640 oh so you know you're still you're still not retired yet and he's like man this is this is

00:42:57.440 my retirement right here once i get this check like then i'm gonna retire yeah he's like i got

00:43:01.680 enough for my whole life but this is for my entertainment it's great it's crazy and that's

00:43:06.700 another part of the thing that i figured out right so you're in a lawsuit you have the client

00:43:11.740 you have me and you have the lawyers and we all have different incentives the client wants to win

00:43:17.600 the lawyers want to win for themselves like yeah they want the client to win but ultimately they

00:43:22.220 just want to run up the bill and i'm trying to win so we all have three different incentives

00:43:25.440 and there was a time that i realized that his lawyer wasn't really looking out for his best

00:43:30.580 interest it kind of felt like a money grab by the lawyer and these are details that this guy

00:43:35.900 obviously wasn't able to see so you know i hate to say i don't think that we had the best legal

00:43:41.500 team on the planet i don't think that i'm the the the greatest inventor i don't think any of that i

00:43:45.960 just think that i picked up on one detail that these guys were not really about they weren't

00:43:52.640 about it they were just this guy's on his last case before he retires this guy's just trying to 0.53

00:43:57.000 throw money to it and me i'm ready to die for this yeah you really were dude i'm ready to die 0.98

00:44:03.320 for this shit yeah and i swear to god bro the thing that kept me going was like you know how 0.99

00:44:09.360 much i value our friendship i was like there's no situation in my life where i'm gonna go out and 1.00

00:44:16.160 run off your two point something million dollars into the ground there is no fucking scenario in 0.98

00:44:23.920 my life that i will look back and be like damn my boy trusted me and and i blew it yeah and i just 0.99

00:44:31.240 know that would have never happened bro and i and i like like i'm a futurist i've predicted so many 0.95

00:44:36.520 things and one of the things that i've predicted about my life was that that's not my destiny

00:44:40.960 that's not how my life is going to turn out i'm hamza and i'm martin and we're the hosts of out

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00:45:42.720 Hey, what's up?

00:45:43.220 I'm Tony Gonzalez.

00:45:44.180 And I'm October Gonzalez.

00:45:45.580 But you can call me Toby.

00:45:46.640 We want you to join us

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00:45:55.160 and all the nitty gritty stuff

00:45:56.520 we all think about.

00:45:57.620 But just don't say out loud.

00:45:58.760 I hate that job.

00:45:59.620 You're probably just going to meet

00:46:00.300 with some rich guy

00:46:01.160 and he's going to whisk you away

00:46:02.320 and I'll never see you again. 0.96

00:46:04.840 Would you say a D-less actor? 0.77

00:46:08.320 D?

00:46:10.260 I don't even know.

00:46:10.940 there's this thing as D no no no I mean like I can't even get on the C list like I'm not even

00:46:14.720 average I'm not even passing I'm failing listen to no safe words with October and Tony Gonzalez

00:46:19.320 part of my culture podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcast or wherever 0.98

00:46:26.380 you get your podcast bro see you're saying words like destiny and shit he's so convincing 0.74

00:46:31.180 and bro I'm I'm 2 million plus deep and I didn't I can't remember once I was like nervous at all 0.98

00:46:38.300 I would just, there were a few times where I was like, bro, can we get fucking paid?

00:46:41.900 Like, this is getting annoying, you know?

00:46:43.840 But I have to say when the $3 million came in, right, because the deal was reimbursement first, then split profits, which was awesome.

00:46:53.220 It was, what a feeling.

00:46:56.100 I was so happy for you.

00:46:57.420 I was so happy for you because this has been a seven-year journey of like a corporate giant trying to take down a young kid from New York

00:47:05.700 who's who's being an inventor and making it on his own so that beat david versus goliath and 0.66

00:47:12.280 david won in this case but then also like you know shit what this panned out for me as an investment

00:47:17.880 but but do you understand the gravity of like what you did like in that situation like you almost

00:47:23.640 like you know i i didn't until you invited me to thanksgiving your mom's speech multiple members

00:47:33.220 of your family's speeches they do this thing at thanksgiving everyone has to give a speech

00:47:36.820 and and i didn't realize how big of a deal that court case was for not just you but your entire

00:47:44.260 family until everyone started talking about how important that was and how you beat the demon

00:47:51.180 like it's it's had a ripple through your entire family it's true i mean we don't give up yeah

00:48:00.700 we don't give up um and i i really mean that like there was like there was just no situation in my

00:48:09.700 life where i could go on like living knowing that like you entrusted me with something so

00:48:17.560 large and i hyped it up so much and then i didn't deliver there was no world and and i think right

00:48:25.900 before trial i don't know we had this like conversation and and i was like bro like you

00:48:32.080 understand like if if uh if we lose this part all the money is gone and you said to me something

00:48:38.560 like well then i guess you only have one choice you gotta win and i was like yeah that's the only

00:48:46.200 thing that i can do yeah i mean look it's an investment either way i would have it would

00:48:52.660 of stung but like no bro i mean you don't get you don't get it see see like our relationship like

00:48:58.640 to me it runs really deep in the sense that no losses you and i have no else i would i would 0.99

00:49:07.420 have i would have definitely roasted you i would have roasted the fuck out of you for the rest of 0.96

00:49:10.880 your life if you lost i'd be like yeah you lost me two million dollars well fortunately we never 0.99

00:49:16.000 have to imagine what that would never know i guess we'll never know baby congrats thank you again i

00:49:22.100 mean we've had our celebrations it's been it's been so long i want to tell one story from from

00:49:27.040 the trial that is absolutely insane all right and uh i went in our text messages to find the text

00:49:33.140 to prove that this actually happened okay on the first day of the trial i'm standing so this is a

00:49:40.780 huge federal building in new york and i'm standing on the like 12th floor and they have these huge

00:49:48.260 windows and i'm just standing there and all of a sudden a hawk flies down lands looks me right in

00:49:57.280 the eyes right in the eyes bro and i'm just staring at this hawk i'm wearing my suit and i

00:50:03.040 actually have a pin my grandpa's medal in my pocket of a hawk eating a snake whoa in my pocket

00:50:09.980 right here this is my grandpa's medal from the war and this hawk lands bro and i'm just looking

00:50:17.180 at this hawk right in the eyes flies away first day first like hour of being there right

00:50:23.640 five days passes the trial ends there was one juror so in every jury there's a lead juror

00:50:31.720 that's the jury juror that assembles everybody else and is like the one that reads it out loud

00:50:37.240 so when you see like in movies when one stands up yeah the foreman yep i want you to read this

00:50:42.240 letter that she sent me

00:50:43.980 after the trial was over

00:50:45.540 this is real

00:50:47.060 and I believe I've sent you this

00:50:49.820 I believe I've sent you this

00:50:52.180 before

00:50:52.580 read it from the top

00:50:57.160 she sent you this after the trial?

00:50:59.720 after the trial

00:51:00.460 hi *** and Maddie, your girlfriend

00:51:03.240 first congratulations, I hope you were happy

00:51:05.680 and feel relieved that this part of your life is behind

00:51:07.780 you and you can move forward

00:51:08.920 I was happy to be a part of this experience with you

00:51:11.420 I felt the emotion and the love in the room.

00:51:13.800 I was also very happy to be able to meet you and talk with you briefly afterwards.

00:51:17.520 I hope you enjoy your evening celebrating your win today.

00:51:20.300 I also want to express how serious I was in saying I would love the opportunity to be

00:51:24.480 able to work with you or for you in some capacity in the future.

00:51:28.020 I would love to be able to sit down with both of you and talk more about who I am and get

00:51:31.440 to know you better.

00:51:32.420 You seem like a lovely couple with a beautiful life ahead of you.

00:51:35.080 I hope you can now focus on the next part of your journey.

00:51:37.860 It was a true pleasure to sit on your case and hope you're pleased with the outcome.

00:51:40.820 You deserve it

00:51:41.440 Best of everything

00:51:42.380 Carrie Hawk

00:51:43.460 Juror number 8

00:51:45.220 That's crazy 1.00

00:51:47.220 Bro you can't make that shit up bro 1.00

00:51:48.980 That's crazy 1.00

00:51:49.480 Can we get zoom on the goosebumps 1.00

00:51:50.640 You cannot make that shit up bro 1.00

00:51:52.800 Her last name was Hawk 1.00

00:51:54.240 Hawk bro

00:51:55.060 Yeah 1.00

00:51:55.220 Like what the fuck 0.99

00:51:57.060 No there was something going on 0.99

00:51:58.360 Bro there was something going on

00:52:00.380 Even going back one thing bro

00:52:02.000 The judge was a magician

00:52:03.160 Yeah which is crazy

00:52:04.780 Gary Brown look him up he's a magician

00:52:06.760 This is insane

00:52:07.940 Bro

00:52:08.380 Insane

00:52:09.000 How do you think I started the trial 0.99

00:52:10.360 i started playing my old magic video he said turn that shit off no wait why because he's gonna be 0.98

00:52:15.260 too biased oh he's gonna fall in love that's amazing we're gonna be kissing by the end of the 0.98

00:52:21.260 trial of course he's gonna say turn it off yeah he knows what i'm doing yeah and i know what he's

00:52:26.480 doing and when after i played that first video of me doing magic as a kid bro he looked at me just

00:52:30.940 like okay okay he got a slick one okay slick one on the dock okay i'm sorry i used to do it

00:52:40.300 of my vlogs it's the entrance for my theme song hey yo i'm sorry i got two shirts up on wwe shop

00:52:45.660 fanatics right now i hate logan paul yes i am the one behind it you're gonna monetize the haters

00:52:52.240 and still humble because after all i am your humble king and i'm gonna stay humble because

00:52:56.480 i'm just that humble you can grab my shirts and all wwe merch hats tees replica title belt

00:53:03.380 superstar collections on wwe shop and fanatics get yours today back to the show like what are

00:53:09.580 the odds bro a federal judge who's a magician me and logan both love magic and i i used to sell

00:53:14.660 magic tricks you know so i have so many copies of so many videos of me doing tricks as a kid so i

00:53:19.620 had like an in i had a 30 minute presentation of me as a child magician no it's insane you should 0.98

00:53:23.740 one night you showed you rent me through those videos i was like this is fucking nuts bro and 0.97

00:53:28.460 you were you were moving product i was moving product people were buying your how to do magic 0.98

00:53:32.860 dvds as like an 11 year old that's right pearlman reached out to you that's right oh it's the

00:53:37.040 mentalist that's right to you Frankie as an 11 year old now that is a crazy loop of yeah of life

00:53:45.960 yeah O's Perlman who's now the biggest magician in the world mentalist meant biggest mentalist

00:53:52.340 in the world me and this dude we're on a bench park I was 11 years old he's he's like 23 that's

00:53:58.080 my guy though that's my guy love you O's we're on a bench park and I'm pitching him this yo look at

00:54:04.100 this trick it was called pk sounds i shouldn't have said that because you could still buy it

00:54:07.720 online somewhere um but it's it was an incredible uh it was an incredible mind reading trick and he

00:54:15.060 loved it and and imagine i'm 11 talking to like my hero i had a picture of it was on my wall

00:54:19.860 that's insane yeah like and i'm like pitching him his things like bro he's like you you make this

00:54:24.820 i'll put my name on it so to me that was like okay like i might be i might be doing something

00:54:29.260 right yeah yeah you really were i mean bro it's just it's just insane because even now even to

00:54:35.160 this day you're fighting corporate giants brother you just had one of the most successful launch

00:54:42.260 videos for a product i've ever seen in my life thank you bro and it's just i learned i learned

00:54:47.660 from the best my guy i learned from the best my guy being friends with you has been a master class

00:54:53.100 in entertainment in in social media i never even liked social media bro i'm about to delete my 0.75

00:54:59.380 shit right now yeah like i'm not it's it's not my thing but like i really like when i was like 0.75

00:55:04.940 coming up with that whole concept for like how to drop that bro i really just summoned like 0.90

00:55:09.860 maybe every conversation we've ever had about the internet all in one and it just and i just

00:55:16.600 pooped it out like like this guy bear over here yeah yeah if you guys have not seen this dude put

00:55:23.540 out the most viral video for his new product it's wearable water which is insane people people come

00:55:30.780 into your house cops arresting you trying to take you down bro i think you're on to something that's

00:55:36.800 how we that's how you know you're on to something whenever there's greatness whenever there's a

00:55:43.320 force of greatness there's an equal force of evil that is trying to bring down the greatness

00:55:48.460 and every day we fight and every day it's a battle uh and in the end the light will always

00:55:54.060 shine through the darkness and my job is just to show people that there's always a light on the

00:55:59.100 other side bro tell me about this product because well you said it's wearable water it's wearable

00:56:04.200 anything let me let me do this bro but you're strong you're really strong you're really strong

00:56:08.300 just just it's out bro it's out all right all right so now i have and that was pretty you're 0.97

00:56:15.440 pretty strong bro this your man yeah damn damn so now i have the my water and i can just wear it 0.98

00:56:22.540 like a i can wear my water like a sling people rather go thirsty than carry a bottle of water 0.99

00:56:29.360 that's literally your thesis by the way that is the thesis and it's true who wants to be walking

00:56:34.160 around holding this holding this all the time and actually the way that i came up with this

00:56:39.360 product was i was on a scooter with my girlfriend maddie and she was on the back and i'm we like to

00:56:45.180 ride one scooter so she's on the back and i'm holding a big liter of water and i'm trying to

00:56:49.380 balance her and i'm riding this scooter i'm like and i just saw it in my head that the label comes

00:56:55.260 apart like that yeah the label is the sling oh you do it way smoother than me and you can wear it

00:57:00.200 Well, I've done it like 10,000 times.

00:57:02.040 Yeah.

00:57:03.580 Dude, you know what?

00:57:04.720 So what Frankie does now, being his friend,

00:57:07.100 he'll come up with an invention.

00:57:08.280 He'll make the prototype.

00:57:09.820 And by saying make the prototype, it's not that simple.

00:57:12.580 How many versions of this did you make

00:57:15.020 before you finally landed on the one?

00:57:16.880 This is probably version 1,200. 0.97

00:57:19.120 Yeah, so he's a sicko.

00:57:20.680 He really perfects these things. 0.85

00:57:23.420 And that's why his patents are successful.

00:57:25.560 Because you'll see this.

00:57:26.920 You'll be like, yeah, that makes sense.

00:57:28.100 but there's like months and months if not years of like design and creativity and effort that's

00:57:34.220 put into making these things and so i get to see like the first couple variations of it

00:57:38.460 and at first i wasn't totally sure about it i just wasn't i just like i don't know and then

00:57:45.600 we were hiking around new york and we were in the woods and i remember i was like 0.90

00:57:51.020 fuck bro i'm so thirsty and you just take this sling from around you and you hold up this water 0.92

00:57:57.680 i'm like oh my god it's brilliant this is the exact purpose that it's supposed to serve 0.99

00:58:02.640 i didn't bring a water i knew i'd get thirsty i didn't bring a lot i didn't want to hold the

00:58:05.700 water you don't want to hold the water i didn't want to hold the water right because it's annoying 0.99

00:58:09.260 to hold a bottle of water and then you whip that i was like this motherfucker just sold me 0.94

00:58:13.760 well in the middle of this wood well well i want to say that when when we when i first went to your 0.99

00:58:19.080 house to show it to you i want to backtrack and let the people know that you fucking destroyed me 0.98

00:58:24.660 Yeah, I cooked you 0.99

00:58:25.980 He destroyed me 1.00

00:58:28.860 Bro, your pitch was fucking whack 1.00

00:58:31.820 My pitch was 0.99

00:58:32.820 No, this was actually the worst pitch

00:58:33.980 No, it wasn't

00:58:34.840 That was the pitch that led into the pitch that went viral

00:58:37.920 No, because it was

00:58:39.260 Bro, let me tell you something

00:58:40.280 He was like, yo, I'm gonna show you something that's gonna change your life

00:58:44.100 And then you

00:58:44.580 No, but then you started

00:58:46.240 Look at him now

00:58:47.420 Yeah, but then you started

00:58:48.640 Yeah, but then you said

00:58:50.680 You were talking about how you added

00:58:52.740 an extra hydrogen molecule to water right or no no no and an extra oxygen water you

00:59:00.740 water or molecule that was the bait pitch no yeah that was the bait he started he said he was making

00:59:05.700 water more water h2o2 h2o2 double double the oxygen double no double the eight it was h2o2

00:59:15.200 double the because when you're thirstier so you need two h's so bro he runs me through this whole 0.95

00:59:22.140 shit i'm like bro what are you fucking saying right now and then he pivots to this and by that 0.98

00:59:26.840 point my mind was i was already pissed because you would you told me you're gonna you told me 1.00

00:59:30.900 you're gonna come up with the most revolutionary i told you i was gonna duplicate the hydrogen

00:59:34.600 molecule and and you were expecting that and then i came out with this and you were disappointed i

00:59:39.940 was and that's what happened and by the end of it i was like maybe there's a there there and then i

00:59:46.180 saw the real life application and then even online bro the video is like 22 million views it's that

00:59:51.220 it's one of the most successful product launches

00:59:52.800 it's way more than that now

00:59:54.020 what's it at 0.98

00:59:54.800 that's fucking insane 0.98

00:59:57.080 28 million views 0.99

00:59:58.160 and growing

00:59:58.940 for

00:59:59.260 on an undiscovered page by the way

01:00:02.380 it's funny

01:00:02.920 we just launched Rip It

01:00:04.120 and we're posting regularly

01:00:06.540 I'm working very hard to do

01:00:07.740 or not

01:00:08.100 we're in the process about to launch it

01:00:10.180 growing the page anyways

01:00:11.720 and I'm Water

01:00:13.060 has like the same amount of followers

01:00:14.720 that Rip It has

01:00:15.720 in like

01:00:16.320 a third of the time

01:00:18.880 in like

01:00:19.260 a fraction of the videos

01:00:20.880 yeah because it's interesting this is a product where the virality is built in a lot of your

01:00:28.220 stuff is like that you have a you some people are just in born in this life to do certain things 0.91

01:00:33.200 you're a fucking inventor bro you are an inventor even the flex pouch take the flex pouch out the 0.95

01:00:38.980 flex pouch this this was before the wall ninja i'm sure you guys have seen this on uh on tiktok 0.99

01:00:43.800 let me let me throw something in here don't worry about this

01:00:47.000 Bro, every time you would lean it forward

01:00:50.980 Or reach your pocket, the bear would fart

01:00:52.440 You've seen this on TikTok

01:00:53.740 The flex pouch

01:00:54.960 This guy invented it

01:00:56.380 You could put all this stuff in this little pouch right here

01:00:59.640 And now he got sticky little suction cups on it 0.99

01:01:02.540 Oh, no fucking way, bro 0.99

01:01:04.800 His inventions are kissing 0.99

01:01:06.480 Bro, a guy invents viral water 0.65

01:01:10.640 A flex pouch

01:01:11.700 This is the guy invented the wallet

01:01:13.780 It's my friend Frankie

01:01:15.820 Frankie everybody

01:01:17.940 Let's go

01:01:18.920 I got the fart machine holder

01:01:21.940 With the six credit cards

01:01:23.260 With the six dollars

01:01:24.360 Stuck to the water

01:01:25.800 To the I'm water

01:01:26.620 I'm drinking water

01:01:28.400 It's insane

01:01:29.400 I'm drinking water

01:01:30.360 So sit down

01:01:31.100 Oh yeah wait

01:01:31.960 Wait wait

01:01:32.380 That's the most important question

01:01:34.660 How does the water taste?

01:01:36.420 Water tastes great bro

01:01:37.540 Try it out 1.00

01:01:38.420 Let me try this fucking water 0.99

01:01:40.040 Try it out 0.99

01:01:40.440 Hey

01:01:40.700 For everyone who's curious

01:01:42.180 About how Frankie's viral

01:01:43.960 For everyone who's curious about how

01:01:46.280 For everyone who's curious how Frankie's

01:01:48.800 Viral wearable water tastes

01:01:50.380 I'm gonna let you know right now 0.99

01:01:52.300 But this water better not be shit 0.95

01:01:55.180 I'm gonna give you an honest review 0.97

01:01:59.080 I'm nervous

01:01:59.980 I'm nervous

01:02:01.160 With my good arm

01:02:02.540 Mmm

01:02:04.700 That's good water

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01:03:24.300 about marriage parenthood sex divorce and all the nitty-gritty stuff we all think about but just

01:03:29.740 don't say out loud. I hate that job. You're probably

01:03:31.780 just going to meet with some rich guy and he's going to whisk you

01:03:33.840 away and I'll never see you again.

01:03:36.660 This is awkward. Would you say a D-list actor?

01:03:40.160 D?

01:03:42.140 I don't even know. There's such a thing as D.

01:03:43.960 No, no, no. I mean like... I can't even get on the C-list?

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01:03:59.740 that's high quality h2o2 thank you that's eight that's h2o2 double the hydrogen when you're

01:04:06.680 when you're thirsty and we haven't shown the coolest part about this no is that this stretches

01:04:15.060 oh my god to fit any sized human ever give it to kevin hold on kev wait hold on wait a little more

01:04:21.660 a little more a little more no way that thing is stretching dude how bro there's not even there's

01:04:28.040 not even a human that big you wonder why the bear was here you wonder why the bear was here

01:04:33.060 dude this guy's always selling he's so good at it here we go it even fits the big blue bear

01:04:40.380 absolutely unbelievable any size any creature any animal unbelievable okay so here's the question

01:04:53.360 because this is what everyone's going to be wondering

01:04:55.040 because you've

01:04:56.580 made all of this stuff

01:04:58.840 has it translated to wealth

01:05:01.260 like clearly obviously 1.00

01:05:02.760 you're rich as fuck 1.00

01:05:04.240 I took the tube out of his ass 1.00

01:05:09.140 he's still farting 1.00

01:05:10.700 give that back

01:05:11.720 we're not going to play this game Kevin

01:05:15.400 he farts when I say

01:05:18.080 not you buddy 0.65

01:05:19.600 alright 1.00

01:05:20.000 are you asking me if i'm stupid fucking rich yes because i feel like everyone thinks you're rich 1.00

01:05:29.120 as fuck so i'm as a podcast host bro i'm here to ask you the tough questions or have your 1.00

01:05:35.600 inventions made you rich i have made i have been a millionaire and been broke three times in my 0.99

01:05:43.740 life both i have gone past multi-million to negative three different times

01:05:51.000 yeah actually negative hundreds of thousands in debt to up millions of dollars to hundreds

01:05:59.220 of thousands of debt to up millions of dollars bro i lived an entire music career multiple music

01:06:06.580 careers as frankie in other worlds i've spent millions of dollars bro over the past decade

01:06:15.760 doing everything i wanted i'm only back to working now so um i'm i'm i'm a billionaire

01:06:25.080 inside here the spirit is a trillionaire i am very rich as a human being um but you know you

01:06:34.200 financials and you know we're working on it right now you know me but we're working on that right

01:06:38.200 now do you think do you think you're you figured it out this time so here's here's the thing bro

01:06:43.020 i had to i was i went through a crisis in my life i got too rich too fast i was like a child star

01:06:49.700 you know when when a child actor becomes so famous and successful at such a young age with no

01:06:55.820 direction of how to transition into adulthood they end up crashing and that is exactly what

01:07:02.000 happened to me I completely I went up and I crashed because who do I talk to who do I talk 0.92

01:07:08.820 to about what to do with all this money like I'm literally a kid from Brooklyn from an immigrant

01:07:14.560 family that was just like the man of the neighborhood who do I talk to about what I'm

01:07:19.360 going through Eugene I talked to Eugene about everything I'm going through but I need someone

01:07:25.080 who do I talk to that can help me manage wealth and make more money and invest it properly no

01:07:31.600 and and who do i talk to about like these like high level problems like i talk to people and 0.95

01:07:36.920 they think i'm boasting or they think i'm showing off i'm like dude i need some fucking help like 0.99

01:07:40.940 i'm about to blow it again i'm about to blow it again like i can't keep fucking doing this shit 1.00

01:07:45.560 like you make millions you lose millions like it sounds it's a great fucking story but at the end 1.00

01:07:51.500 of the day now i'm kind of at a point where i'm like i think i'm gonna keep it this time 0.96

01:07:55.160 i think i'm gonna hold on to it that's solid i think i'm gonna hold on to it going broke is

01:07:59.700 exhausting yeah but you know what's so interesting it's like you are a person because of what you do

01:08:07.380 who has to invest their own money into these things that are at the end of the day just gambles

01:08:13.660 bro you didn't know i was with you talking about how you want to launch this product

01:08:18.960 we didn't know it's just going to get 28 million views and i'm sure you put hundreds of thousands

01:08:25.840 of dollars into this product even the flex pouch absolutely going going back and forth figuring out

01:08:31.400 the designs it's so interesting because like at least if someone is a creator and they invest

01:08:38.660 like a video camera it's not that crazy expensive and you can get your product out there online your

01:08:44.520 content and like maybe hopefully it's received with inventions you have one shot to make sure

01:08:52.920 that what you think is useful to the world is right yeah that's a that's a gamble right you

01:09:01.300 are taking a gamble i've been trained since a young age i'm like a samurai i'm expert level

01:09:08.820 when it comes to creating products because i was out there for real i was out there at the flea

01:09:15.460 markets i was out there at the javits center at the auto show i was out there at the uh

01:09:21.140 oklahoma state fair texas state fair when i was a not even in high school like i know 0.98

01:09:28.620 the reason why it's not a coincidence that i'm able to make all of this shit 0.80

01:09:33.680 you know i'm not just like a uh you know i didn't read up about it like i i lived it i sold products 0.95

01:09:41.580 in real life in front of people for years and years of my life from all walks of life from the

01:09:46.920 rich to the poor and I learned what people want what people care about what people ask and the

01:09:53.340 biggest thing that would blow my mind is if I had a product that I was selling I could go to three

01:09:59.220 different state fairs around the country and for some reason all the people would ask me the same

01:10:03.740 exact questions about that product I was like how did they ask the same thing these are different

01:10:08.860 demographics different groups but they would all boil down to just like a few questions and my whole

01:10:13.660 theory on creating products is if you could figure out those questions that a person is

01:10:16.740 going to ask you ahead of time and if you could answer those then you can make a successful

01:10:21.500 product but you have to be a futurist in order to you have to predict something that people

01:10:26.980 don't even know that they want yet yeah yeah and and your products in particular seem to solve

01:10:32.400 problems they seem to become conveniences for people wall ninja i don't i don't have the tool

01:10:41.420 for this thing right now it's it's all stuff that i need i make everything i make is for me

01:10:46.980 you know this these are all things that i was going around in my life i'm like man i wish i

01:10:52.600 had a place to put my car key i keep losing my car key and this was born took five years but i

01:10:59.320 never gave up on the idea of like hey i want a stretchy pocket that can hold my car key well the

01:11:03.860 flex the flex pouch went pretty viral on tiktok as well right especially overseas they all viral

01:11:09.400 baby yeah but yeah but they all yeah i guess you're right yeah they yeah they are no it's it's

01:11:15.440 this is big in china and korea and japan shout out to all the japanese korean actors and celebrities

01:11:21.760 that i i can't even keep up with how many of them that show up every day that are holding on to the

01:11:27.280 flex pouch thank you i wish i could say in a different language maybe we could transcribe

01:11:31.440 my voice for the for the koreans and the japanese arigato arigato yeah so yeah so is your product

01:11:38.160 being infringed on in in international markets breaking news breaking news breaking news the

01:11:45.500 first set of counterfeiters of the flex pouch have just dropped no way there's hundreds of them no 0.74

01:11:51.540 fucking way oh my god yes no way yes where are they oh china oh in asia in asia how do you how 0.74

01:11:59.920 do you pursue them well it's same thing same thing as the wallet ninja but the china companies can't 0.99

01:12:07.900 just be like bro what are you gonna fucking do come get us bro we're we have patents in china 0.56

01:12:12.500 and korea and japan we're we're patents in china you have to have a patent in china this is this 0.97

01:12:18.840 is for anybody that's ever thought about making a product if you don't have a patent in china you

01:12:22.040 have nothing china is the hub that's where everything gets manufactured that's where you

01:12:26.060 want to protect your product before it goes anywhere else so yeah you got to have a you 0.99

01:12:29.820 got to have a patent in china damn so yeah your shit does go viral bro but this is where it gets 0.99

01:12:36.600 interesting it's not just with products we've had a viral smash together right the number song 0.99

01:12:45.000 that's right bro some people call this a generational bop i mean i remember when you

01:12:51.120 first pitched me the number song you were like yo there's a song about letters we all know it's

01:12:58.660 called the alphabet song a b c d you know the rest he said there's no song about numbers 0.99

01:13:06.500 let's make a number song count to 30 i said dog you're fucking i said you're right 0.98

01:13:16.420 we gotta believe that we gotta believe that i was just shocked that it was being pitched 0.99

01:13:22.500 this thing and then he played me the demo i said oh my god this might have some legs

01:13:28.540 we could make the craziest dumbest song ever yeah and bro i have people come up to me to this day

01:13:34.460 and are like the number song is the greatest thing you've ever done let's go bro it is 0.98

01:13:39.980 how did you come up with um again i just want to zoom out of i guess into my life

01:13:51.000 the theory of my existence i am always i'm programmed to look for things that don't exist

01:13:58.980 and imagine what it would look like if they did exist so the number song was just like one of

01:14:05.160 those things where i sat down and i was like writing some writing some music and it was the

01:14:11.380 chords were kind of funny sounding and i was like singing some like kind of like r&b like funny

01:14:16.080 melodies and i just started counting one two three i'm like no no i'm not gonna do this and i'm like 0.99

01:14:23.920 and i'll go into like a thing where i'm like talking to myself like bro you're stupid chill 0.98

01:14:27.520 bro okay three seven eight i'm like fuck how far am i gonna go and i ended at 30 because then the 0.99

01:14:35.220 bar changed into the it went into the yeah the chord changed so i was like i guess i could just 0.95

01:14:39.940 go till 30 i guess that's it i mean how i mean if you could count to 30 you're pretty much good

01:14:45.420 100 like what's past 30 i don't even know i couldn't tell you if you gave me a million

01:14:53.260 dollars that's right a million how do you know that number i don't i just heard people just heard

01:15:00.680 it heard it right like abstract i didn't know it was a number no i just thought it was a it meant

01:15:04.760 like a certain amount of dollars yeah like you're rich you're rich you got a million dollars million

01:15:08.280 bucks yeah so i didn't know that was a number it's the song about being a million yeah no that's no

01:15:13.980 it's sick that i could approach you with something like hey bro you want to count to 30 and you're

01:15:18.900 like you fight me at first but then you come around yeah for sure for sure because because

01:15:24.700 i think at first i'm i think at first i'm like kind of grounded but then i realize i'm just not

01:15:30.400 at all and like it just you got to just chip away a little bit until i too max with you

01:15:37.140 hell yeah we gotta believe that if you're you could say i obviously have some so yeah i'm proud 0.98

01:15:45.620 yeah but bro i mean you you said fuck it you know let's make this song we made the song 0.98

01:15:54.580 song was a banger let me hang out of a helicopter while i'm singing it oh yeah that's true i had 0.99

01:16:00.380 someone hit me up the other day like yo i'm selling a bet with a friend was you hanging 0.99

01:16:04.860 off the helicopter in the number song ai i said no no no sir risk my life for that shit and i 0.98

01:16:11.960 and i i thought it was safe until until there's one part in it because i i sometimes when i commit 0.98

01:16:18.120 to stunts i i realize like if you're not fully committed that fear is gonna just eat you alive

01:16:24.760 i've had to like you were committed bro i was coming you were bringing the chopper down do

01:16:28.620 you remember that i was flying in the chopper next to you yeah yeah and you see that you could

01:16:32.920 see in the video there's one frame in the video where i'm like shaking and the helicopter rocking

01:16:38.520 back and forth is dipping down yeah that's real and so i realized this one scene i'm suspended

01:16:43.940 from this helicopter and the harness is on my waist not my torso and so i'm leaning back and

01:16:51.900 i wasn't thinking twice about i was just leaning like way back there's one part no arms on the 0.94

01:16:56.360 ladder yeah just like this and i grabbed the ladder again i thought holy fuck yo i could

01:17:03.820 have just slid out this way of the of the harness like like like easily have just slid out of it

01:17:10.180 and i was like you did you get the shot we did it was glorious kids today will never know they

01:17:18.520 think everything is ai they'll never know what it means to actually be on a rope ladder yeah

01:17:24.060 hanging out of a helicopter for what by the way like why why why did why did we have to make that

01:17:29.900 so epic because it's the greatest song on earth it's a number song yeah we we we slammed ourselves 0.86

01:17:40.320 in a cinquecenta that's right driving down the road that's on top of it and shit yeah that was 0.77

01:17:47.240 yeah bro why why do you uh why do you go along with these ideas what's wrong with you what do 1.00

01:17:54.420 mean we'll come from the same clock bro what's wrong with you dude big dumb dummy yeah i got 0.99

01:18:00.520 a couple screws loose one of my favorite sayings we're all here because we're not all there right 0.99

01:18:07.000 right that's really fucking true you brought a blue bear bro and you made me fist him 0.93

01:18:12.880 let me fist the bear the bear and i had to wash my hands because you covered that tube in chocolate 0.99

01:18:18.820 so unnecessary what brand of chocolate you fucking sick freaks what what the good kind 0.99

01:18:24.300 you could have looked you could have smelled solid solid it smelled good guy can tell the 0.99

01:18:29.680 difference between solid and it's not hershey's it felt like it felt like a it felt like a higher

01:18:34.420 end chocolate more european what what brand i don't really know what chocolate brands godiva

01:18:43.640 Nutella

01:18:44.300 The best

01:18:45.660 Nutella

01:18:46.220 Oh my god

01:18:47.720 How do you

01:18:47.960 Do you check him

01:18:50.440 Through the airport

01:18:51.580 Bro he's

01:18:52.520 I had to buy him a seat

01:18:53.680 Are you serious

01:18:55.400 Of course bro

01:18:56.240 He sat next to me

01:18:56.840 The entire time

01:18:57.580 This is 0.98

01:18:58.300 This is fucking insane 0.99

01:19:00.800 Can I use him 0.98

01:19:01.460 For a video I'm making

01:19:02.300 When are you guys leaving

01:19:04.320 I don't know bro

01:19:05.920 I didn't even know that

01:19:07.040 I wasn't expecting

01:19:08.640 To be here

01:19:09.160 Now you're asking me

01:19:09.820 When am I

01:19:10.380 Not gonna be here

01:19:11.400 yeah yeah yeah well because bro i my i have a family and stuff my daughter's going to sleep 0.69

01:19:17.980 and shit we could honestly do this podcast for three hours straight so what's up i have a 0.81

01:19:23.720 daughter bro are you calling it i don't know there's more to talk about i know bro like we 0.99

01:19:29.780 didn't even get into the fact that i got into anything bro one of the lowest moments of my

01:19:33.900 entire life you experienced with me at burning man i've told the story on this podcast before

01:19:42.440 it was the second year that we went to burning man the first one was pretty glorious and i i had

01:19:47.780 my vlog camera i was able to do it all the second year something went wrong and i ended something

01:19:55.280 went wrong and i ended up taking all my clothes off and running through burning man naked i was

01:20:02.640 there it was just me and you yeah i know you saved me i had to and then and then you took me 0.99

01:20:10.160 back to camp and you're you're like bro can i smack you right now you're being an idiot i was 0.99

01:20:14.600 like go for it you smacked the shit out of me and then i poured chocolate you gave me chocolate 1.00

01:20:20.100 milk you're like here drink this and i just poured it on myself yeah and then you took me to the 0.99

01:20:25.100 bathroom because i was just being a hooligan and you said bro i remember what i said i said 1.00

01:20:30.500 look in the mirror you worthless piece of shit and just look at yourself yeah and i did because 0.99

01:20:38.660 and and bro i like i had thrown up on myself i think i like pissed my pants there's chocolate 1.00

01:20:43.380 milk on me i'm sweating i'm disgusting i'm covered in soot i don't have a phone i don't

01:20:48.160 have my vlog camera well you you decided at some point to uh i guess in the spirit of burning man 0.86

01:20:55.580 to remove your underwear remove take your phone throw it into the desert didn't need it take your

01:21:02.060 camera throw it into the desert didn't need anymore mid 300 days vlog and i'm sitting i'm

01:21:06.840 sitting on the on the desert ground just like watching like just like uh just like a beautiful

01:21:14.720 like soap opera meets like like cinema noir like meets like just like a detective drama and i'm

01:21:22.860 just like i'm watching you as a character just like going through this entire thing and i'm like

01:21:28.080 remember okay his phone's over there is okay i should probably get his underwear and i remember

01:21:33.500 like putting you into your underwear bro like a child you need clothes you need clothes i see

01:21:39.080 your wee wee you need clothes thank god and then you just ran yeah and had to get out of there and 0.99

01:21:45.960 then i'm chasing you and i'm also fucked up i don't want to be chasing you i'd rather have fun 0.99

01:21:51.760 but instead now i'm just chasing you with your trying to find your shit and then i was like all 0.99

01:21:57.440 right fine i'll get him back to the rv he will he'll calm down he'll settle i was like bro drink 0.99

01:22:01.580 this he literally takes it smacks it and just pours it all over his body i was like that's my

01:22:10.380 boy that's my boy yeah when i when when you prompted me to really take a good look at myself

01:22:17.860 i did and in that moment i realized i never want to be in this position again 0.94

01:22:28.500 i just felt like it was a rough fucking loser bro rough position to be in yeah but it was so 0.92

01:22:34.520 necessary because holy smokes bro like i didn't have my phone or my vlog camera which i'm like a 0.96

01:22:40.840 social media kid it's my job it's my lifeline it's gone because i threw it yeah where do you

01:22:49.300 even go from i remember i woke up the next morning i was like bro what have i done yeah you were

01:22:55.320 pretty uh how do i even you were pretty reflective on your life yeah it was good though it was good

01:23:00.720 i think those i think i think what did that do for you like long term

01:23:05.520 i definitely realize i have a very delicate relationship with psychedelics

01:23:12.960 i'm not sure i can i'm not sure they're for me which you know like

01:23:18.920 tried it i'm not i'm not just i'm not i'm not i'm not 100 sure um but i also think like

01:23:28.040 there's like resilience in reaching that low low and coming out of it and realizing like okay okay

01:23:38.480 it's all it's all good i managed to salvage some things um the gopro was gone the camera was gone

01:23:44.260 um managed to get my phone because the nice people at burning man returned it wasn't that amazing

01:23:51.080 yeah it was incredible like i can't believe someone i cannot believe someone found my phone

01:23:55.340 and brought it to the lost and found like that was that gave me some restored faith in humanity

01:23:59.700 but like it i'll tell you what it did for me ultimately it's like when i'm really going

01:24:06.300 through shit even like now kind of or it just it just see it just seems like the whole world's

01:24:14.300 against me or whatever i'm feeling i've been in a position where i like really in that moment 0.95

01:24:19.440 kind of like basically like felt like i had nothing and it was that moment where i was just

01:24:23.680 it was literally like felt like rock bottom and so to have hit rock bottom and have that as like

01:24:30.120 a baseline you kind of know like oh like this is kind of where it's at so when when things bad

01:24:35.820 things happen if you're not 100 there you're like oh i got it worse i could get worse yeah you know

01:24:41.740 yeah it gave me some perspective that i carry with me now nice yeah nice well that rock bottom for

01:24:50.140 you was maybe some person's high seeing my wiener yeah just seeing your you and your worst was 0.99

01:24:58.640 someone's like hey i saw logan paul's dick and and they're telling that story right now at a family 0.99

01:25:02.860 dinner 100 that well that was that was another thing that's oh sorry that's also why it was a 0.98

01:25:09.940 low low i'm sitting there looking in the mirror thinking like yo does anyone have a video of that

01:25:15.660 Like, is this, like, this could be the most embarrassing thing ever.

01:25:20.540 Also, like, a little psychedelic wiener?

01:25:26.540 Like, just hanging out?

01:25:29.820 Just flopping around?

01:25:31.140 I'm not in full girth.

01:25:32.320 This is not me.

01:25:33.700 No one's going to believe me.

01:25:36.060 You know, at that time, like, I still didn't really understand what, like,

01:25:41.700 social media, like, really meant, you know, and what your line of work did.

01:25:45.660 except for I knew one thing about you is that you didn't like to be recorded

01:25:48.860 in bad positions.

01:25:50.280 Yeah.

01:25:50.920 And I never got that because when we were growing up,

01:25:55.780 the worst of a video that you take of your friend,

01:25:58.900 the more hilarious it is.

01:26:00.380 So I never understood that concept of like, oh, don't take a bad video. 1.00

01:26:03.100 Because growing up, just with the homies, 1.00

01:26:05.860 you catch your boy in the most compromising position. 1.00

01:26:08.420 That is gold.

01:26:10.600 In the favorite folder, you're pulling that up at every occasion.

01:26:14.180 um but yeah i remember chasing you and protecting your wiener making sure that it was it was not 0.99

01:26:21.240 captured i protected that cock my boy that wiener safe with me my boy 100 you understand that right 0.99

01:26:28.240 i know it is i understand fully no no shake my hand like i thought you put the pinky in there 0.99

01:26:32.520 that's right it's the most intimate handshake a man can do i feel like we're like you feel that

01:26:37.260 right this is by the way a handshake of the future i do believe that handshake just regular handshakes 0.98

01:26:42.560 you'll have that for business but if you really fuck with someone 0.98

01:26:45.880 because you feel it you feel it gets it's way deeper yeah the webbing of between my pinky and 0.99

01:26:53.680 my ring finger is touching the webbing between your pinky and your ring finger and it's like

01:27:00.000 it's i just i'm not i can't say i've done that with many men it's deep so like with the brother

01:27:05.180 you know you would do a handshake like that yeah and i do believe that our handshakes will

01:27:09.380 will change in the future

01:27:11.300 as time goes on. You're a futurist.

01:27:12.820 We didn't, like anyone who's watching this, we didn't

01:27:15.240 even scratch it, bro. No, I know, I know.

01:27:17.340 We didn't even scratch it. You can be a

01:27:19.200 recurring guest like on Joe Rogan. I will say

01:27:21.360 though, bro, having a daughter

01:27:23.240 like I'm getting a little anxious

01:27:25.140 because I know her bedtime, like I

01:27:27.020 have this window where I can at least say

01:27:28.920 goodnight to her before she goes

01:27:31.280 to bed and the window's closing.

01:27:33.740 And I want to give

01:27:35.280 you the respect of

01:27:36.920 the full length of this podcast.

01:27:38.660 i just i have to prioritize her i love seeing her before she goes to sleep and i want to commend you

01:27:44.620 as a human being that i've watched you grow from complete degenerate into now hearing you say that

01:27:51.500 i truly am proud of you bro you have made leaps and bounds and for real dude that that is amazing

01:27:58.460 i'm esme is such a special girl and i'm really happy for you and nina thank you bro and yeah 0.98

01:28:04.460 and you know fuck me whatever no you we'll get we'll get off too bro i mean you got you 0.98

01:28:08.520 based on the current lengths of our episode this is actually probably part 1.5 so we gotta get you 0.99

01:28:14.780 two and a two and a half listen hey go buy i'm water not that they can because it's not anywhere 0.52

01:28:20.060 bro what the fuck when are you actually gonna put it out there um you buy the labels right 0.99

01:28:25.760 no it's sold out man sold out on the first day so on the first day yeah so what the fuck 0.99

01:28:31.420 so just keep being entertained keep watching keep what you could have keep loving it out there yeah 0.99

01:28:39.400 imagine what your life could be like if you had i'm water and um do you love it uh yeah he loves

01:28:49.000 it so the guy whose name is right there says he loves it so why wouldn't you why wouldn't you have

01:28:55.940 it uh i love it i love you frankie thanks for coming on thanks for the 24 hour flight four

01:29:00.660 day flight. My brother. Hasn't

01:29:02.580 shit in ages. I gotta go 0.99

01:29:04.800 do Joe Rogan right now, so I'll

01:29:06.880 see you after. Hey, guys, thank you for

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01:29:10.700 should have Mike off more podcasts.

01:29:13.060 Thank you for watching. We'll take it easy.

01:29:15.340 Peace.

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