Impaulsive with Logan Paul - July 06, 2026


Senator Fetterman on "F**k Trump" Comments, Kamala Harris LOSING $1.5B, Epstein Files UPDATE

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Austin Theory GOES OFF on Roman Reigns, Dominik Mysterio Backstage Talk, Vince McMahon Relationship Franke on $4.5M Lawsuit w⧸ Logan Paul & How He Lost EVERYTHING

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00:00:00.000 Hey what's up I'm Tony Gonzalez and I'm October Gonzalez but you can call me Toby. We want you to
00:00:04.680 join us on our new podcast No Safe Words with October and Tony Gonzalez. We get real about
00:00:10.100 marriage, parenthood, sex, divorce and all the nitty-gritty stuff we all think about but just
00:00:15.260 don't say out loud. You're probably just gonna be some rich guy and he's gonna whisk you away and
00:00:18.760 listen to No Safe Words with October and Tony Gonzalez on the iHeartRadio app,
00:00:25.160 apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast i know you had the president on your here and i he
00:00:32.800 invited me for dinner uh in january of 25 and i took so much for that it's like that was for just
00:00:40.580 having the conversation yeah we did with the president yeah yeah that's that's just well we
00:00:44.980 did well we did too i mean we we got we got marked as a result of doing the pre-election show as well
00:00:50.420 yeah but i'm just like no i'm just not here for it like that's not how you progress that's simply
00:00:54.560 Senator, we have to warn you.
00:01:08.020 There's been an infestation of sorts.
00:01:11.040 Yeah.
00:01:11.640 If you notice, there are flies the size of trucks flying around this room.
00:01:18.900 I don't even know how they get airborne.
00:01:20.360 They're so large.
00:01:21.620 Massive.
00:01:21.820 And once everyone stops moving, I think they'll congregate on that light in groups of 6 to 12.
00:01:29.680 So just a heads up, there will be flies flying around here.
00:01:32.080 Oh, yeah.
00:01:32.400 You're used to some flies.
00:01:34.040 You've seen some flies in Pennsylvania.
00:01:35.560 That's for sure, right?
00:01:36.700 Yeah, yeah.
00:01:37.380 No, it's not as bad as when I'm in the Northeast.
00:01:41.720 When you've been in, like, Maine or some of those, you have, like, black flies that will eat you alive.
00:01:47.600 I think we might have some Maine flies here.
00:01:49.280 I haven't even seen these here when I'm here, though.
00:01:51.120 They're hard to miss
00:01:53.760 We actually had another crew member who's now gone
00:01:56.540 Deceased because of these flies
00:01:58.100 They ate him
00:02:00.020 Hey guys, listen to me now
00:02:02.620 Today's guest has become one of the most
00:02:04.440 Unique and recognizable figures
00:02:06.280 In American politics
00:02:07.420 From his trademark hoodies and shorts
00:02:09.520 To his outspoken approach on some of the biggest issues
00:02:11.940 Facing the country, he's built a reputation
00:02:14.000 For doing things his own way
00:02:16.080 Please welcome
00:02:17.180 U.S. Senator John Fetterman
00:02:20.120 hell yeah man welcome to the show thank you for having me on wow yeah i mean you know it
00:02:28.060 it helped my cool efficient with with my with my youngest son you know like august yeah august
00:02:34.200 shout out august you're watching this right now yeah my 12 year old son yeah he's a he's a huge
00:02:39.420 fan couldn't believe you're coming on jake paul's podcast dude uh yeah man so like uh don't take
00:02:47.780 this offensive at all but like uh yeah the shorts and hoodie looked like you wouldn't think that
00:02:52.740 you're a u.s senator yeah yeah no i mean uh unless people recognize me i've never been mistaken as a
00:02:59.500 senator you know in public uh sometimes uh for me it's like it was never a statement more than
00:03:06.820 anything perhaps perhaps uh it's been a comfort thing and it's kind of hard to find clothes that
00:03:14.500 never really fit and i was kind of cursed with just chopstick legs you know and i i don't have
00:03:21.380 i don't have an ass that can hold them up so like the thing is it just comes down to discomfort
00:03:25.400 thing and i have these freakish long arms so i just find thing that just fits so i mean i uh man 0.79
00:03:32.500 i wish i had the hair or more of the overall thing but i just work with what i got but i feel like
00:03:37.240 we're one of the same i deal with a lot of same issues yeah yeah yeah but i also gotta ask you
00:03:41.360 Because for me, I try to stay connected with my audience.
00:03:44.520 Do you feel like the way you dress helps keep you relatable and connected with your constituents?
00:03:49.560 Yeah, or just it's, I think, I think the vast majority of regular dudes in Pennsylvania,
00:03:57.220 especially Western Pennsylvania, kind of dress this.
00:04:00.260 And now, you know, I live at 365 shorts.
00:04:06.840 I mean, it's no matter how cold it is, you know, I'm not really impacted that,
00:04:10.860 But, you know, this past winter, it was 11 degrees below zero.
00:04:14.700 And people are looking at me like, you know, but, yeah.
00:04:18.200 I know a guy like this.
00:04:19.220 Yeah.
00:04:19.800 I invited him to my wedding.
00:04:21.020 He said, yeah, I'll come, but I'm not wearing a suit.
00:04:24.200 Can I wear shorts?
00:04:25.020 I said, yeah, of course.
00:04:26.640 Yeah, you can wear shorts to my wedding. 1.00
00:04:28.540 Then I had people at my wedding saying, who's that idiot in shorts? 1.00
00:04:31.400 I said, well, that's my billionaire partner. 1.00
00:04:32.980 So you can do whatever the fuck you want. 0.99
00:04:36.800 No, comfort for sure, but it's also a good part of the brand now at this point. 0.99
00:04:40.860 Yeah. I mean, I, I don't know. I mean, I never, I never got like a, like a branding deal or
00:04:46.540 anything. You know, I pay for my own and of course I would have to obviously, but, but no,
00:04:51.480 overall it just, it just kind of evolved into that thing. And, and now in some weird thing,
00:04:57.840 there was a story when I started there in the Senate at that time, you know, leader Schumer
00:05:04.480 announced that they were making, you know, a change in the dress code. And, and I was like,
00:05:10.320 oh shit i mean i never asked for that whatever and that became like a huge national story for 0.82
00:05:15.800 the first time in 240 some years you know there was never a dress code but now people thought that 0.99
00:05:22.800 i was asking for changes and there was there was kind of like a meltdown there and there and
00:05:30.260 everybody just quickly realized that they had to install dress codes so so wait you can't you can't
00:05:37.900 wear that when you're in the senate oh well i never was going to as long as i'm on the floor
00:05:43.700 on the actual floor and of course i never had the intention of giving a speech on the you know on
00:05:50.040 the senate floor in his in the hoodie but but everywhere else people would realize people think
00:05:56.040 it's more glamorous than it actually is and you know the vast majority of the the business that
00:06:02.560 occurs it's just kind of chill or walking around or just having meetings so it's like it's you
00:06:08.700 know comfort is king can i want to dive in a little bit why maybe i was excited to have you
00:06:14.680 on today uh john i think i use this analogy on the show a lot uh in this two-party system that
00:06:21.000 we've had here in the united states you know since the beginning of time that has really much become
00:06:25.820 a game of basketball in the analogy that i use where both teams are uh avidly trying to block
00:06:32.400 the other team's shot neither team's really scoring and the crowd's just yelling at everyone
00:06:36.600 right uh do you think that that's an accurate depiction of the two-party system in the united
00:06:41.080 states right now uh i mean it's for me it's especially after after the president trump
00:06:50.140 was elected it became much more than just trying to block shots it just became full-on contact
00:06:56.920 about trying to it's like a race to the bottom on how to respond kind of ways and now someone that
00:07:06.960 i really wanted to be reasonable for that now if there's you know in my state that i represent
00:07:14.160 pennsylvania you know trump carried it in 2024 and won and then also my my my former colleague
00:07:22.360 lost. And we, they, we picked up on a new Senator who happened to be Dave McCormick. He's a
00:07:28.280 Republican. So I early decided like, do I want to work with people on things that we can agree with
00:07:34.260 or respectfully disagree on things? And my views would be reflected in, in my votes or just
00:07:42.180 calling people names and describing someone as like, you're a Nazi or trying to destroy
00:07:47.300 uh the country and these kind of extremes and i did anticipate that we would eventually end up 0.99
00:07:55.100 and some democrats now are actually running for office uh running on the the fuck trump 0.98
00:08:02.000 the fuck i mean literally that's in some of their commercials you know honestly and this idea and if 0.99
00:08:07.400 you call someone on their side as like they're fascists then that means that people that i know 0.99
00:08:14.840 one I love that voted for him, you know, that must be their fascists. And they are not. These
00:08:20.380 are good people. They love our country no less than they do. It's just having different views
00:08:26.900 and, you know, trying to find a way forward in deeply divided country. But now that's amplified
00:08:35.300 in the Senate. And Pennsylvania is also unique where we are the only of two states out of 50
00:08:44.540 where you have a split ticket we have a democrat and a republican you know it's people forget that
00:08:51.040 pennsylvania's voice elected a democrat and a republican and to me that's a statement to say
00:08:57.520 find a way to work together with the other side not just you know pick up a folded chair and just
00:09:05.120 start beat everybody with it and call people the names and i refuse to do that and if someone on
00:09:11.300 my parties angry that i would describe dave mccormick as a great dear friend because yes we
00:09:17.740 have different views on some things but we have to find a way to get forward because it's getting
00:09:23.160 more and more um it's um it's sad honestly people people forgot that we're all americans and we
00:09:31.520 actually need each other yeah it's you you being this uh common i guess they call it even trump
00:09:38.640 has called it common sense democrat or common sense person um in a world where division is king
00:09:45.240 people run platforms on division people gain voters and constituents on division do you ever
00:09:50.360 feel like an outcast being uh in the middle somewhat yeah i mean definitely now because
00:09:57.860 a lot of the conversations if if you closely follow politics that those kinds of things come
00:10:04.360 from the very deep blue states in my party if you represent just a small congressional district
00:10:12.200 like in in new york city for example or if you represent a deep blue state like oregon or
00:10:19.680 connecticut or everything you know you can absolutely predict that they will be the most
00:10:25.920 liberal and they will be the most vocal and the most divisive about it and then on the other side
00:10:31.380 same as on the red side so this idea there's plenty there's a long long line of democrats
00:10:38.020 criticizing and attacking the other side but the space that i occupy is i will vote for some things
00:10:45.860 and i will not vote and support these kinds of things that's the space that i landed myself but
00:10:51.620 i i encounter a lot of people in public and they really appreciate it but as a democrat you know
00:10:59.560 what pays the bills, you know, and energize the base are those extreme things. And, uh, I would
00:11:06.660 just call that F Trump, uh, approach and, and these things, but I refuse to engaging at that.
00:11:13.820 So that's, I love having conversations here and platforms like this because in reach people and
00:11:19.880 maybe help them understand what you might be seeing may not understand or have an opportunity
00:11:26.020 to explain how things really are on the ground there do you feel do you feel like that often
00:11:31.400 like the representation of the world on social media is not an accurate depiction of what what
00:11:38.500 is happening in real life yeah absolutely not no um i don't know if you guys participate actively
00:11:44.000 on social media but i don't i don't you know like you know it i would rather sit in a room for 45
00:11:51.220 minutes and punch myself in the face then then run through social media because it's kind of the 0.99
00:11:57.400 same thing yeah no it is it's it's it's the it's the worst shit in the world yeah and and now is 0.99
00:12:04.880 i have three kids and i remind them too uh you know you know when i do events that i talk to 0.99
00:12:13.060 people i say you know hey if you spend an hour on social media raise your hand if you feel
00:12:21.060 better about yourself or the world or anything, you know, no one, no one, everyone just feels
00:12:26.280 terrible after that. So it's like, it's like this weird thing. And, and that's not the real world
00:12:31.080 for sure. And that's, that's a rule for me too, is like, I will never say something on social media
00:12:37.240 that if I wouldn't say to them, if they were sitting me right now in the chair, and if you're
00:12:42.380 willing to sit down and talk to someone, you know, if you have a beer with them or just meet with 1.00
00:12:47.880 it's much harder to just say well yeah you're a piece of shit you know but it's very easy and 1.00
00:12:55.120 cheap and to be able to say those kind of extreme things on social media and i would encourage 1.00
00:13:00.720 anybody to remember you are connected to a human being and remind did this person really do anything
00:13:08.800 to you or it just becomes just dropping cheap heat there's nothing really behind it and and
00:13:16.300 that's that's new and that's an accelerate on the culture and the way we treat and interact with
00:13:24.780 people so you ask these people if they feel better or they feel like they're having a better day
00:13:29.900 after going on social media and they may say no to that i want to meet the person that says yeah
00:13:34.260 that's right i'm uplifted you know i i feel special it's not gonna happen but one thing
00:13:38.920 they will tell you is that they might feel more informed okay and and to me that's one of the
00:13:43.940 scary things about social media is this is this air is this air of so much misinformation on yeah
00:13:50.200 yeah i beg people please if you're following on politics and these things i'm begging people
00:13:57.500 you know you have a responsibility to understand there is unlimited slop online especially after
00:14:06.320 ai is going to transform not not just the world but especially in politics too and i would also
00:14:13.000 encourage people to read the spectrum you know don't put yourself in a bubble and challenge your
00:14:19.880 own views and you know find real facts no no people don't want to do that yeah people don't
00:14:26.260 want to do that john i i i said this on the last show people will say to themselves out loud others
00:14:34.500 and believe things that rationalizes their own beliefs and their own reality that i don't think
00:14:39.860 people want to have the difficult conversations or see the opposing point of view.
00:14:44.020 Exactly. No one wants to be challenged on that. Exactly. I love to have my views challenged
00:14:48.660 and I love to learn new things. And if I can pick up a new perspective, maybe that might
00:14:54.780 change things differently. Or if not change your view, but it might soften it or just remind,
00:15:01.100 it's like, well, I get that. Or it doesn't mean that they're my enemy. It just means that we
00:15:06.100 happen to have committed difference in these kinds of important things that's that's fact
00:15:11.840 and like for me i i'm and i'm not promoting it or anything obviously but i i have a membership in
00:15:17.800 apple news and and that has an editor which definitely skews left but you can set up and
00:15:25.860 you can read the spectrum you know extremes and then i do those things and i challenge it
00:15:32.040 and i realize and that's what i encourage people if you if you are agreeing on everything that you
00:15:38.980 read you are in your own bubble and this thing so you have you're responsible for an informed view
00:15:48.960 and that's i think that's asking a lot um i think it's just asking a lot of the average person who
00:15:54.580 just wants to believe what they believe and whose thoughts are reinforced by what they what they
00:16:00.100 read and see in here like i i think it's a a lot of people unfortunately fall into either black or
00:16:07.620 white and don't understand that the gray area and the nuance which is where everything is by the
00:16:12.680 way yeah like that's life everything things aren't that things aren't always that simple like some
00:16:16.860 sometimes they are but like yes but man there's there's a lot of nuance to life do you guys ever
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00:17:45.560 How often are you reading or talking to someone with the opposing viewpoint?
00:17:50.600 and are you changing the way you think about something yeah well i mean i'm i'm always happy
00:17:56.840 to do it as as long as it comes from a sincere place yeah absolutely and you know you know
00:18:06.240 i don't believe in like bumper stickers like you're not going to change people's views with
00:18:10.620 but it's like just you know the the worst thing you can you know the the best thing that can happen
00:18:17.680 is you can at least maybe explain why you have this views, not that you're a terrible person
00:18:23.320 or that you are in someone's pocket or you're a puppet or for these things. I honestly, I enjoy
00:18:31.140 these kind of things. But, you know, people have, you know, people believe that was going to change
00:18:37.600 my party and I never would. But if I did, if I changed my party, my votes and views wouldn't
00:18:44.540 change and that that's that's kind of what's strange in a place to be some people if they
00:18:50.940 lose a primary or they're quitting then they they call that yo lo what's the what's the
00:18:58.700 acronym yolo yolo where hey i can say and do whatever i want yeah well you know if i if i
00:19:03.680 was in that i would my views wouldn't change i would say these kind of things um and like for
00:19:09.220 example you know i know i know you had the president on your here and i he invited me for 0.57
00:19:15.120 dinner uh in january of 25 and i took so much shit for that it's like that was for just having
00:19:22.140 the conversation yeah we did with the president yeah yeah that's that's just well we did well we
00:19:26.780 did too i mean we we got we got marked as a result of doing the pre-election show as well yeah but
00:19:32.240 i'm just like no i'm just not here for it like that's not how you progress that's simply not
00:19:36.200 what the conversation looks like right and we had a very unbiased conversation we didn't even
00:19:41.480 make endorsements on the show we had we asked questions we offered the same we offered the
00:19:46.180 same invite to come to kamala she was unwilling to come on because we had already had donald on
00:19:50.780 and and she had constraints and restraints set around her appearance and yeah well and and and
00:19:55.880 also that it actually confirmed you know his campaign understand the importance of having
00:20:00.660 these conversations 100 i mean i you know there was no i mean i i was i was excited i was like hey
00:20:07.320 great we have an invitation sure i can't wait this will be great you know i love to have you know
00:20:11.600 conversations and if i reach people like i don't have political conversations with my my 12 year
00:20:17.100 old but my my 12 year old might actually will will see some of this now too and it will reach people
00:20:22.760 and and that's you know i love to understand what things are more alike uh for people that
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00:21:55.580 Hey, what's up? I'm Tony Gonzalez.
00:21:57.060 And I'm October Gonzalez.
00:21:58.460 But you can call me Toby.
00:21:59.520 We want you to join us on our new podcast,
00:22:02.160 No Safe Words with October and Tony Gonzalez.
00:22:04.520 We get real about marriage, parenthood, sex, divorce,
00:22:08.040 and all the nitty-gritty stuff we all think about,
00:22:10.500 but just don't say out loud.
00:22:11.580 I hate that job.
00:22:12.500 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy
00:22:14.040 and he's going to whisk you away and I'll never see you again.
00:22:16.320 would you say a d-list actor d i don't even know there's this thing as d no no no i mean like i
00:22:26.240 can't even get on the c list like i'm not even average i'm not even passing i'm failing listening
00:22:30.040 to no safe words with october and tony gonzalez part of my culture podcast network available on
00:22:35.620 the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast what's your really as as
00:22:43.540 one of the i guess is really the leading democrat that's reaching across the aisle to make
00:22:48.480 relationships with the right what is your relationship like nothing more punishing
00:22:52.040 than to reach across the aisle right now there's no democrats reaching across the aisle right now
00:22:55.980 yeah i guess i guess that's what i was trying to say uh what's your relationship with trump like 1.00
00:22:59.700 right now at the moment oh yeah no no you want to pay your bills fuck trump and burn it down 0.99
00:23:06.720 and that's that that's that's a hundred a hundred percent right now and you know i was i was shopping 0.99
00:23:13.560 i was getting our groceries at it was at walmart honestly in in west moreland county and a guy
00:23:20.100 stopped me and he said he's i am a democrat i'm like oh yeah oh great so am i and he was frustrated
00:23:26.580 at me and i'm like okay sure well why why and you know um i asked him what specifically have i voted
00:23:34.540 for and no i can we talk about and he's like well i don't know exactly the votes but i just
00:23:39.640 you know i'm angry and you seem to be all about trump and i'm like well no i'm same party as you
00:23:47.280 and overall i vote a line that puts me in the 90s of the democrat yep you know so i might have some
00:23:56.000 different views i might vote for people in his nominees for the cabinet but but overall i said
00:24:03.440 and then he said well you should be a hundred percent i'm like a hundred percent vote well
00:24:09.900 you live in pennsylvania together and you know you know donald trump carried here and i don't
00:24:19.840 just represent you know democrats i represent all 13 million pennsylvanians and if i was a voter i
00:24:28.960 would want a kind of person that will at least be honest and saying hey this is what i believe and
00:24:34.460 here's why i voted this way and if i vote for one of the members of the cabinet it's like i that's
00:24:40.500 a vote saying i don't have to agree with them on everything but it means there should be hopefully
00:24:46.060 there's a relationship and you know i voted for people whether it's the secretary of transportation
00:24:51.880 or with the you know if you followed with mark mark wayne mullen you know i vote i was the only
00:24:58.100 democrat and i unlocked his nominee and got him out of out of the homeland security thing and i
00:25:03.660 took so much shit for these things but working together collectively these guys you know we have
00:25:09.460 unlocked nearly 1.8 billion dollars of projects here in pennsylvania and now that matters people 0.99
00:25:17.680 seem to care about that less but even in a small in a small way you know there's a place called
00:25:24.780 Presque Isle on Lake Erie and Erie they they are one and a half million dollars short for
00:25:29.880 for sand and and I work with one of the nominees and the the Army Corps of Engineers and they made 0.99
00:25:37.420 it work so it's like it's like if you call you're a piece of shit you know you can't call them up 0.99
00:25:43.440 and saying hey can you help me out here man you know it doesn't work that way and there's no 0.99
00:25:48.440 reason to hate there's so much hate just because it's like it's goes beyond shirts and skins right
00:25:55.720 now it is just it's it's sad and we are effectively 15 16 months into his term so
00:26:04.760 there's only one direction that's going and that's more extreme do you find yourself being
00:26:11.580 able to identify other allies in this uh approach to reach across the aisle and and create some
00:26:18.280 sort of unity here sure well i mean uh it's it's it's it's difficult but if you agree on some
00:26:27.440 things or you have these views like like for example like mark wayne mullen you know people
00:26:33.800 people some there were more democrats that that wanted to vote for him but ultimately i was
00:26:41.340 you know the only one that i unlocked him that allowed him to to reach the floor why why vote no
00:26:49.340 because my base will kill me and i'm supposed to oppose every single thing and find that now
00:26:57.020 mark wayne was was a friend of mine and i work with mark wayne when he was a senator you know
00:27:03.200 he invited me to to go to turks and caicos because some american toursters had some random bullets
00:27:09.960 in their luggage you know just there and they have a very extreme draconian law they were looking at
00:27:15.780 a decade in prison and now we all cat we we travel together and as the only democrat on that and we
00:27:22.460 work with the governor of Turks and Caicos and not one single American spent any time in in prison
00:27:27.440 and I work with the dude and now he used to you know he was an MA guy you know like but he's people
00:27:34.740 assume that he's just a meathead or he's like a hothead or whatever but no he's a thoughtful guy
00:27:39.580 he's a family man and i'm proud to work with him and i call him a friend no matter that the
00:27:45.640 blowback that i got just to vote for the dude uh i guess turning to international a little bit what
00:27:53.960 do you think about our current situation with iran and i guess the current approach to the
00:27:59.840 conflict in the middle east the conflict of the politics yeah i mean to our to our current
00:28:06.740 approach to what did you think about the the idea of going to war with iran and and as a way of
00:28:12.040 oh sure for me you know like that that definitely you know you know i embraced probably the single
00:28:20.680 most toxic thing a democrat can do now i my vote was not a pro-war it was a pro we cannot let iran
00:28:29.900 build a nuclear bomb i ran ever since ever since back in 1979 you know front center was
00:28:38.800 we must destroy israel and we are going to do anything possible and that brought us to the
00:28:46.680 where and now i happen to agree to make sure to do something to prevent iran building a nuclear
00:28:52.800 bomb and now if people really doesn't follow that situation it may not make much much sense
00:28:59.960 if you are paying 450 for a gallon of gas you know that seems to it's people are frustrated
00:29:08.640 understandably but that's really what's behind it so so that's that's why i decided to support that
00:29:15.120 because uh these these people and its proxies in iran whether it's hamas or hezbollah or houthis
00:29:22.780 they were these proxies that are committed to destroy uh israel i have a question uh you know
00:29:31.700 you're not on social media you're not a social media guy i'm just so curious i are you browsing
00:29:36.960 social media or or is this like a senator thing where like you know there's like updates on what's
00:29:42.520 happening on your phone uh no i actually my my my uh my social people are here you could confirm
00:29:51.900 I am not, it's not even on my phones.
00:29:54.160 No, I mean like right now.
00:29:55.920 Yeah, because the phone's just right here.
00:29:57.440 I'm just curious what you're doing.
00:29:59.240 Could you do that?
00:30:01.160 Do this?
00:30:01.700 No, I mean, no, I, you know, for me, I don't look on social media.
00:30:08.480 I do my own media.
00:30:10.480 Did I make that?
00:30:11.020 Yeah, no, no.
00:30:12.180 I think what he's asking is, I want to ask you as well,
00:30:14.660 this tactic of holding the phone, did you start doing this after the stroke?
00:30:19.760 No, yeah.
00:30:20.700 this oh yeah sure this conversation yeah this is a this is a this is a drone this is using
00:30:27.400 captioning you know I had a stroke I had a stroke four years ago that that literally started stopped
00:30:34.260 my heart and I nearly died from it and thankfully I was able to recover but I use this as like an
00:30:41.800 aid so I can hear and I do can't process thing but when I'm having very specific conversations
00:30:48.680 i use this and you can see that it's like you know like wearing glasses i mean yeah i know how to
00:30:54.900 read but i use that as a tool whether if i'm driving or i'm reading now i see i see okay thank
00:31:01.380 you thank you for clarifying oh it's it's it's transcribing the conversation in real time yeah
00:31:05.720 exactly yeah and it's not recorded it's not anything it's just simply like wearing a pair
00:31:12.940 glasses. And I've had people ask me, and now then their grandfather or some other people, you know,
00:31:20.480 AI, AI made this possible. If this, if this stroke happened, say 10 years ago, you know,
00:31:28.380 participating in life the way I do, that would be incredibly difficult for that. So this is,
00:31:35.740 you know yes i never thought about captioning or disabilities before that so now i am a member of
00:31:44.160 a community that has a disability uh thankfully it's it's relatively modest but because of a
00:31:49.780 tool like this i'm able to participate fully for those things ah i see wwe universe we've got some
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00:32:28.680 there if Elon Musk wanted to give you a oh yeah I mean like would you would you yeah yeah what a
00:32:36.440 great you know like he you know for Elon and I I think I found out right TK he follows me right
00:32:44.100 yeah yeah yeah yeah so I mean great like you know I like how he doesn't even know we're like
00:32:49.000 like like I I think I uh I'm in awe what he's accomplished you know we're the same age he's so
00:32:57.160 far more successful and smarter than i could ever be and then you have you have people you know
00:33:05.620 you know the the guy from maine said that he's our first trillionaire let's make sure he's the
00:33:12.620 last one and i'm like why do you hate a guy you know he built rockets he builds cars for thing
00:33:17.700 you know like yeah i mean how many jobs have you created what it's what you think so so this idea
00:33:25.700 that would be like hating on you know thomas edison or these other kind of entrepreneurs
00:33:31.440 it actually would it really would he is the modern day thomas a hundred percent and there's
00:33:36.960 been other people like before him that had that level of wealth it just looked different in the
00:33:41.900 time that it was yeah or a monster musa bro what are you no there's been like there's been like
00:33:45.840 i don't think he's motivated by money honestly i don't think if money meant anything to him
00:33:51.140 he would have never done that, that going into Doge and getting involved in politics. If you
00:33:56.920 want to, you know, it's like, I don't think it's money. I think for, for whatever it is without a
00:34:03.320 deal, my, my brother just, just bought a Tesla and that thing drives around by itself. I mean,
00:34:10.620 like he, you know, it's, I mean, the technology and the things, these, these kinds of things.
00:34:15.820 So his impact in the world will be much more than than I would ever do. So that doesn't mean I agree with him on every one of his views. But if you describe him as a problem of our society, I think, yeah, I think it's an affirming, you know, about what we've we've produced someone to create this change.
00:34:39.080 and space is the future obviously i could never build a rocket i could never build a car i could
00:34:47.140 never do these kinds of thing and we used to we as democrats we used to love teslas and then we
00:34:55.340 got pissed at him and then we start to set him on fire and and and and go after the it's it's it's
00:35:02.260 just bizarre but but overall i don't describe billionaires as the problem or the scourge
00:35:07.940 whatever they just happen to have more money than me and uh for me i'm not also a guy that
00:35:17.320 you know data centers then people you know people assume they think that must be a terrible thing
00:35:22.040 whatever and i don't think that because ai will transform the world as it is now i think america
00:35:30.120 should be the country that's doing that because if we if we have a moratorium on data centers or
00:35:37.780 or i mean look at anthropic you know like if you're following that yeah mythos i mean yes
00:35:44.180 i i think that's that's scary they've created something that's becoming more and more closer
00:35:49.780 to the singularity and you know once it becomes something that's that's self-aware or it can
00:35:56.840 effectively improve or write itself they're getting it's getting close to that i mean that's
00:36:03.520 that was just ordered to be shut down correct or well what i'm saying like if you ever seen one of
00:36:09.300 those zero day kinds of movies about how something every whatever now now mythos you know they warned
00:36:16.900 you know the biggest banks in the country you know that it's like it's it's so dangerous that
00:36:21.980 it can quickly identify vulnerabilities you know in and a week where that was the most secure kinds
00:36:29.700 of operating systems and things and they can pick it apart just systematically can pick it apart
00:36:36.280 so now they they block them from releasing them mythos is that is industrial grade kind of a
00:36:43.660 thing thank god it's in our hands imagine if china had something or if someone like iran
00:36:49.240 if they could unleash that that the kinds of chaos i don't think it's more than bombs or a war
00:36:55.980 it's actually you know zero day kind of things and it would be driven by something like mythos
00:37:04.060 because once mythos is is more like that's that's getting they know people agree that there are
00:37:13.460 three to five years if not even then the singularity that's defined by you know it becomes
00:37:18.420 like it's self-aware thing and and that is i mean when i'm 56 if anyone ever watched
00:37:25.600 the movie war games if you remember if you know that movie of course you know like joshua joshua
00:37:31.420 was the that was like a that kind of predicted it where it began to be able to think itself
00:37:36.900 yep and and it thought well maybe you're you know destroy destroy the world thing and then the then
00:37:42.840 it learned and saying, you know, the only way to win is not to play. So it's this idea. So AI,
00:37:50.260 that's where front and center it. I don't think it's going to destroy the world. I think it's
00:37:55.020 going to change it in profound ways, but we all need to be aware of it. And that makes misinformation
00:38:00.620 more front and center. And in politics or on other political issues, you can able to quickly
00:38:08.700 overwhelm people with AI slop and do things. I'm Hamza. And I'm Martin. And we're the hosts
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00:38:43.180 that is surprisingly delicious or we'll talk about the med gala and the looks that they wore
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00:38:58.720 for come connect with us listen out of character from will ferrell's big money players network on
00:39:03.200 the iheart radio app apple pods or wherever you get your podcasts hey what's up i'm tony
00:39:07.500 gonzalez and i'm october gonzalez but you can call me toby we want you to join us on our new
00:39:12.340 podcast no safe words with october and tony gonzalez we get real about marriage parenthood
00:39:17.900 sex divorce and all the nitty-gritty stuff we all think about but just don't say out loud i hate
00:39:22.960 that job you're probably just gonna meet some rich guy and he's gonna whisk you away and i'll 0.81
00:39:26.700 never see you again and oh this is awkward would you say a d-less actor d i don't even know there's
00:39:35.080 There's such a thing as D.
00:39:36.040 No, no, no.
00:39:36.680 I mean, like...
00:39:37.240 I didn't even get on the C-list?
00:39:38.140 Like, I'm not even average?
00:39:39.000 I'm not even passing?
00:39:39.960 I'm failing?
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00:39:49.500 or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:39:52.500 How do you navigate a time right now
00:39:54.660 where everything is so partisan,
00:39:56.800 where the idea of government intervention
00:40:00.640 or overwatch on an AI project
00:40:02.580 actually infuriates a certain side of the you know a certain base right like like big government
00:40:09.540 stay out of our business right like it's such a time right now where it's so divisive to get
00:40:13.800 involved in that type of thing like how do you say like yo this project is too is too good to
00:40:18.780 or too smart yeah no i mean it's like you no one can really predict where this is going
00:40:26.920 you know just three or four years ago never thought that we could be this close to like
00:40:32.480 the singularity and for the first time my in my i'm aware of they well actually if you followed
00:40:39.580 that you know the white house just they they they demanded and they blocked anthropic to
00:40:45.100 to release that in minutes in minutes like they can't release they can't release you know uh
00:40:51.320 did you see all that yeah and then they even included fable fable was a version that that
00:40:55.780 they claim to have the appropriate safeguards to prevent it from using it for for hacking or
00:41:02.100 thing but you know anyone that's paying attention knows that you know whether it's an operating
00:41:08.600 system or a bank system this is some of the most sophisticated and secure things
00:41:13.920 mythos can identify thousands of vulnerabilities just in about a week thing it's actually really
00:41:21.040 scary yeah it is yeah exactly and and that's the direction where it's it's going and um
00:41:28.340 if if you think you can stop that necessarily you can't the best you can do is is be prepared
00:41:35.400 and understand that you can't stop these kind of changes but do it in a way to minimize that
00:41:42.660 these kinds of changes but yeah i am i am concerned absolutely anyone i i have a question
00:41:49.660 i want to ask as a u.s senator senator what is your take on disclosure and the
00:42:01.020 looming reality that we may not be alone in the universe oh wow man i mean i grew up you know
00:42:10.300 obsessed obsessed with that idea too and i i don't know i mean i am going to go see disclosure day
00:42:16.780 if you if you see that i'm probably going to go see that and you know i have this idea i don't
00:42:22.620 know and i'm again i'm elated that you know trump released those files and release everything i do
00:42:30.000 think if there is evidence but someone that i've i've always been about studying space even when
00:42:37.660 i was a kid the vast people don't realize the vast vast thing where there's more stars in the
00:42:44.540 universe than grains of sand on earth and that when i was when i was eight or nine years old
00:42:52.100 voyager was launched and now just last year it left the solar system it's been traveling for
00:42:58.760 55 years just to get out of the social system yeah and that's not even a speck on a speck
00:43:04.980 on the head of a pen kind of thing so how vast it is to find earth who knows that thing but
00:43:11.640 if if an alien civilization found us then it's incomprehensible the changes and what they've
00:43:21.460 understood to find us and that's not even analogous to a pin on a hat on a haystack that is there are
00:43:31.280 there are black holes that are 30 billion times this the solar mass you know just and that's still
00:43:40.780 insignificant in the universe so so i mean if you agree with it i i don't know if if it exists
00:43:46.660 but but if they do then even if they are with us now but they're so sophisticated we don't know
00:43:53.700 that but you know you have i don't know i don't know i don't have heard anything any rumblings in
00:43:59.320 the government yeah no no i i have no insights no no i i swear i i swear to god i i do i do not
00:44:05.220 have seen any special at that and if i would i would absolutely no matter what the penalty is
00:44:12.200 like i would release it because people people deserve to know if there is incontrovertible
00:44:17.780 evidence that that you know they were here or that we can you know show that thing and it won't be
00:44:23.960 like mars attack yeah there is the flag i mean no there's so many john there's so many i had it in
00:44:29.620 my hand too i dropped it i dropped it do you have any reason to believe that anyone else in the
00:44:34.860 government has that information isn't releasing it uh i i mean or like what do you think i mean
00:44:41.100 you you can't keep you can't keep a secret you know i i think if it's if it exists you know
00:44:46.180 that's fine you know another one of the thing is the kennedy assassination yeah you know like
00:44:51.240 if you if you've seen uh oliver stone's film jkf you know i i i or or jfk yep you know that's my
00:45:00.380 uh jkf no that's my initial yeah jfk yeah uh it's impossible how it was just he wasn't
00:45:10.800 you know it wasn't just you know oswald i mean you know who knows what it was but i i do not
00:45:16.380 believe that he was just a one lone alone you don't you don't believe that i i don't i know
00:45:21.840 i believe that they were there were multiple rifles there and and how how the bullets hit
00:45:27.180 And if it wasn't for the Zapruder film, you know, people would have assumed and believed it was just that thing.
00:45:33.560 So why are we not seeing all of that information, like really getting because because we, you know, people who voted for Trump were promised that they were going to get not, you know, unredacted access to a lot of information.
00:45:50.920 well the the simple question is why did why did they even have a block to to to release all of
00:45:59.280 it why not release it all immediately after that that that must mean they must know that there were
00:46:05.220 forces behind it that could have created mass chaos or some more thing you know like why like
00:46:11.940 if there was like a plane class i mean a plane crash you know they would release exactly what
00:46:17.420 happened and you don't say well we can't tell you why that plane crashed you know for 40 years later
00:46:22.380 you know it's like so there must have been something there and i'm not like a tin i'm not
00:46:26.620 a tinfoil hat guy i'm not a conspiracy guy but i mean if you look at the ballistics and you look
00:46:31.660 at the facts but without a doubt i you know that's one thing i agree with trump is release everything
00:46:38.140 but why is he not but why is he not releasing everything though that's my question like even
00:46:43.240 as far as like epstein is concerned like what i i don't know i mean i don't know if if every single
00:46:49.460 thing i i don't follow it that closely but but you know whether if it's epstein whether it's
00:46:55.640 kennedy or whether it's the aliens release all of the release it all because you know people
00:47:02.060 are all entitled to know really what the truth is you know we're not children and pretend that
00:47:07.820 some of these things really aren't true hey viewer do you believe aliens exist i certainly do but
00:47:14.680 only 15 of traders on polymarket are saying that the u.s is going to confirm that aliens exist
00:47:19.960 by the end of this year can you believe that 15 chance it's on polymarket markets on everything
00:47:25.840 there's all sorts of stuff there there's world cup there's uh fighting there's all sorts of
00:47:30.760 sorts of stuff uh sports politics there's a lot of politics but look polymarket linking the
00:47:37.760 description i think we might have a code i've been told we're having a code impulsive 50 right
00:47:42.580 impulsive 50 you deposit 20 you get 50 that's a lot of dollars link in the description check it
00:47:48.740 out download polymarket markets on everything bang see one of the issues i have too uh and
00:47:53.380 i don't know maybe you can relate to this or agree with this is we've also as a people gotten
00:47:58.360 quite consumed with storylines and questions around jfk and and aliens and stuff like that and
00:48:04.680 it has allowed a large swath of people to turn a blind eye to situations that are actually
00:48:10.700 affecting americans like the opiate epidemic something i dealt with i grew up during the
00:48:15.180 oxycontin boom of 2000 2003 i was addicted to heroin for 10 years got cleaned by the grace of
00:48:21.200 god and working very hard through through it in recovery um what what do you see as a potential
00:48:28.480 solution for this opiate epidemic and for you know the the mental illness issue that we deal
00:48:34.340 with in america yeah well mental health is a big was was really big you know as someone that
00:48:39.860 suffered from depression and you know and i understand why people maybe have turned to opiates
00:48:45.880 you know like i mean my gosh oxy oxy was a pharmaceuticalized heroin honestly and if
00:48:53.640 anyone's been in real physical pain you would do anything to remove remove yourself from that
00:48:59.840 or when I was in the throes of depression you know I started to have the conversation with
00:49:05.520 myself to end my life you know and that's you know and you know thank you I'll have the opportunity
00:49:11.520 and I beg people listening if you listening to this has an issue with with depression I beg people
00:49:17.460 you know if you if you don't do something you will eventually end up with the conversation
00:49:25.040 with yourself and depression will figure out to think that the right thing is to just take
00:49:33.100 yourself out of that game and i beg people please don't stay in that game i don't know you know
00:49:38.780 find help or if nothing else stay in the game and and the opiates thank thankfully the the overdose
00:49:45.580 the overdose deaths have started to drop down and something that i happen to agree also with
00:49:53.420 the republican side is secure our border where some of these drugs are coming from and holding
00:49:58.700 some of these countries accountable that are importing these kinds of poison and putting
00:50:04.160 the people appropriately that are selling it with the appropriate kinds of penalty now too
00:50:08.980 and to provide the resources that are necessary to help people you are an expert you know if you've
00:50:15.300 you've broke free from, from that. You know, I can't describe what addiction is, but I'm an
00:50:21.760 expert in depression. And that's why I would describe people and the advice that I give people
00:50:26.220 because I know millions of people do struggle with it. I'm Hamza. And I'm Martin. And we're
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00:51:21.720 welcome listen out of character from will ferrell's big money players network on the iheart radio app
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00:51:31.260 gonzalez but you can call me toby we want you to join us on our new podcast no safe words with
00:51:36.580 october and tony gonzalez we get real about marriage parenthood sex divorce and all the
00:51:42.180 nitty-gritty stuff we all think about but just don't say out loud i hate that job you're probably
00:51:46.320 just gonna meet with some rich guy and he's gonna whisk you away and i'll never see you again and
00:51:50.000 would you say a d-list actor d i don't even know there's this thing is d no no no i mean like i
00:51:59.720 can't even get on the c list like i'm not even average i'm not even passing i'm failing
00:52:02.960 Listen to No Safe Words with October and Tony Gonzalez, part of My Cultura Podcast Network.
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00:52:15.080 Especially, I mean, you represent, you know, Pennsylvania, a state that absolutely decimated by the opiate epidemic.
00:52:22.500 I mean, it was, you guys, I remember Pennsylvania being one of the hardest hit states.
00:52:27.240 And I think one of the issues that people have is they don't really know what to do.
00:52:33.520 They don't know where to go.
00:52:35.040 They don't know who to talk to.
00:52:36.200 If they do want to get into a rehab or get into a mental health facility, they can't because there's not enough rooms.
00:52:43.560 There's not enough doctors.
00:52:44.820 Insurance doesn't cover it.
00:52:46.100 I mean, I see the messages every single day.
00:52:48.400 I see 10, 20, 50 messages a day.
00:52:51.320 Help me.
00:52:51.980 Help me, please.
00:52:52.700 I don't know where to go.
00:52:53.600 I don't know who to talk to.
00:52:54.600 so like the the idea of securing the border and holding other countries accountable for
00:53:00.740 sending drugs in we have a we have a sat we have a sadness epidemic we have a mental health epidemic
00:53:06.820 in the country that is really like probably the biggest thing that we face it's people think you 0.98
00:53:12.000 know my my depression got worse after i won my election that's when shit really went south
00:53:17.560 uh this this idea and people thought why so that's why i have this conversation it's definitely not
00:53:25.280 a political winner to talk about depression and and suicide but i think it's an important one to
00:53:30.760 think now if someone that's in the in the senate you know has these kinds of conversations and
00:53:36.960 now talk about our veterans community you know roughly 25 25 veterans every every day will take
00:53:44.340 their lives i mean suicide is an epidemic in our country 50 000 americans last year for the highest
00:53:51.560 number ever took their lives and that's why i continue to have this conversation to reach out
00:53:55.900 people the kinds of audiences that you reach to to have that conversation but what do we but i guess
00:54:02.880 i guess last question on is like what what's like what's an actual actionable item how do you how
00:54:09.440 do you start to actually combat it and fix the situation as opposed to just talking about it you
00:54:13.760 How do you get people to professionals?
00:54:15.620 How do you increase access?
00:54:17.860 Well, I mean, exactly.
00:54:19.180 What tools or what was helpful to get you clean?
00:54:24.440 The court system, the state-sponsored detox,
00:54:29.720 SCRC in New Haven, Connecticut, state funds.
00:54:33.100 How many trips to deck?
00:54:37.100 I'm a one and done, believe it or not, which was crazy.
00:54:39.560 I did a bunch of-
00:54:40.380 You did one?
00:54:40.860 Yeah.
00:54:41.140 You were one and done.
00:54:42.500 Congratulations.
00:54:43.240 That's amazing.
00:54:43.760 I did a lot of outpatient stuff over the years, but I was at the end of my life.
00:54:49.040 I mean, I had been an addict for 10 years.
00:54:50.920 I was on methadone for seven years, and so there was a lot of stuff that I tried.
00:54:55.180 But as far as inpatient was concerned, it was a one and done.
00:54:58.380 But I had state sponsorship to do that.
00:55:00.420 I had state funding to go to SCRC in Connecticut.
00:55:02.640 So you identified the court.
00:55:04.360 Did they put you in jail and force you?
00:55:07.000 I was in jail diversion, they call it.
00:55:10.220 So basically, I either go to detox and rehab.
00:55:12.260 So that kind of pushed you into this.
00:55:14.880 Correct.
00:55:15.700 Correct.
00:55:16.460 Because Connecticut, where I'm from, had a strong diversion program, whereas other states don't.
00:55:22.180 And they say, go do your time.
00:55:23.540 And you end up with this incarceration cycle that you're obviously familiar with that doesn't help anyone.
00:55:28.740 It cycles people back out into the real world with no rehabilitation tactics, no coping mechanisms whatsoever.
00:55:35.280 So I don't know.
00:55:36.620 This feels like a question.
00:55:38.060 I hate to say it, but I'm going to be asking like another senator in like five years or ten years.
00:55:41.980 because it just doesn't seem like anyone's really we're so busy talking about what's happening in
00:55:46.680 Tehran what's happening with nuclear codes what's happening with the Epstein files that there's
00:55:51.800 millions and millions of Americans who have problems with opiates who have problems with
00:55:55.340 mental illness who just aren't getting access to any kind of help it's very it's actually like
00:55:59.700 really frustrating it is and you see and you see more and more people taking their lives
00:56:03.960 people you know people dying of overdoses and to me those are those are the Americans that need
00:56:10.320 to be taken care of not not you know the the hyper elites and and and trying to figure out
00:56:15.820 how to improve relationships with israel you know i don't know that's where i we were promised
00:56:20.680 america first by this current administration it still just doesn't feel like we're getting
00:56:23.620 any closer to that so so is it more of like a buyer's remorse kind of a thing i didn't buy
00:56:30.020 so i mean i didn't i didn't buy it so like it's i've seen i'm seeing remorse on the face of a lot
00:56:37.200 of people because it doesn't seem like a lot of the promises that were made for america first
00:56:41.540 are coming true gas prices gas prices are up grocery prices are up we're at war we we don't
00:56:47.940 have the epstein files there's a lot of things that are continuing to go wrong but i'm not saying
00:56:51.460 they would have gone any better if there was a democratic you know uh yeah i mean you know like
00:56:57.240 as a democrat i didn't vote for the big beautiful bill and they cut at medicare uh and in medicaid
00:57:03.360 you know i think i absolutely that's the kind of programming that would pay that would pay for the
00:57:08.860 kind of program that you referenced there that's one of the reasons why i would never cut those
00:57:12.320 things and that would also significantly reduce the kinds of funds that are available for for
00:57:17.400 hospitals and for those things but you know also a mistake that our party made is is is decriminalize
00:57:26.100 drug use like they tried that in oregon and that was a disaster that didn't work that way so like
00:57:32.860 i was really intrigued by what air the the court diversion helped but because it was criminal
00:57:38.960 behavior technically it's not make you a criminal but it just means that it's necessary to have
00:57:44.780 kinds of intervention not just say it's okay for you to just sit there on the corner and just
00:57:51.140 continue to to to use use use without any kinds of things i mean the horrific are you for have
00:57:58.500 you heard of kensington in philadelphia of course yeah the kensington i mean you guys are great
00:58:03.360 that's great yeah i mean i i thought i saw some pretty hard stuff in my side of the state you
00:58:08.140 know walk around in kensington and you see the kind of thing and you know absolutely and i i will
00:58:13.120 i will say that uh mayor parker she you know has been willing to kind of do something about
00:58:19.360 kensington too that's ground zero on kinds of how how toxic and awful things have got in the
00:58:27.240 addictions yeah yeah you guys made i mean kensington was national news um question for you
00:58:33.660 2028 who do you have winning the presidential election oh we don't we we just we just don't
00:58:40.740 we just don't know that thing and i would remind everybody everybody that's been the last
00:58:45.780 presidents no one ever expected or thought was not on anyone's radar screen now of course it was trump
00:58:52.380 although anyone that spent time in Pennsylvania I knew he would win based on the energy on the
00:58:59.720 ground and for there and then Joe Biden won not one single so-called experts predicted that you
00:59:08.340 know and he and he was able he was able to win and everybody not one single person really thought
00:59:14.060 Trump could win in 2016 but spend time in Pennsylvania also do you could realize that it
00:59:19.560 was possible and that was a significant kinds of risk and then prior bohang that was obama obama
00:59:25.980 was never supposed to win that too so you never know who's going to be in involved in these things
00:59:32.940 though but without a doubt this election is going to be unlimited money you know my race my race in
00:59:42.100 2022 my senate race cost about 325 million dollars i mean yeah whoa yeah and then who's funding that
00:59:52.060 where is that coming from well i mean you know that's money unlimited money to destroy someone's
00:59:58.700 reputation oh my god and then in 24 then now a senate race hit half a billion dollars now 26
01:00:08.720 watch watch what those numbers are in in 26 that's going to be more and just in 24 harris
01:00:17.340 raised over one and a half billion dollars she spent that in 107 days so that will be quaint
01:00:24.860 in 28 that's i gotta i gotta get him up to date on a lot of super pack stuff so that he understands
01:00:30.780 how all this stuff works you know when when you have unlimited money you will have extreme views
01:00:39.900 and extreme overload and it makes it impossible to have like a real conversation it's ironic like
01:00:47.420 people were convinced that i was a socialist now people sometimes are flying maga and i'm neither
01:00:53.580 these things i'm just a guy that has you know an independent view and so that's makes it you know
01:01:01.960 unlimited money if you wanted to change change our country more than virtually anything two things
01:01:07.900 eliminate the primary system and stop this idea that money unlimited money is free speech
01:01:16.680 that would transform uh our democracy to to the banner honestly so are you against the idea of
01:01:24.200 super PACs uh well what I'm saying like if I have 150 millions to convince people that you're a piece 0.99
01:01:33.420 of shit you know like oh you won't need that much buddy you just need a phone and an x account 0.99
01:01:38.580 we're in a unique business we're in a we're on the only business that someone can raise 150 1.00
01:01:45.820 million to to to convince you're a piece of shit yeah yeah yeah i mean honestly and that's part of 0.99
01:01:53.340 that's part of the mental health things like i got nuked i got nuked from space kind of a thing 1.00
01:01:59.180 and and it's like it's crazy and people just like i couldn't get away from from this thing
01:02:06.760 and that will look quaint you know and that's only going in that one direction that's why i'm saying
01:02:12.360 stop the unlimited money and now just make it sure make it more there's not enough people
01:02:21.720 talking about addiction and for the other thing because it's about these big things and professional
01:02:27.960 wrestling it's become professional wrestling for politics with unlimited money and that creates
01:02:33.540 uh it's um i can i can i can attest uh what can 100 million do due to someone's reputation
01:02:44.160 you know it works that's crit that's so nuts dude all that so the majority of the money just goes to
01:02:50.960 slandering your opponent basically all of it all of it yeah a hundred percent yeah
01:02:55.720 i'm sorry i used to do it in my vlogs it's the entrance for my theme song hey yo i'm sorry i
01:03:02.560 got two shirts up on wwe shop fanatics right now i hate logan paul yes i am the one behind it
01:03:09.780 you're gonna monetize the haters and still humble because after all i am your humble king and i'm
01:03:14.440 gonna stay humble because i'm just that humble you can grab my shirts and all wwe merch hats
01:03:19.900 tees replica title belt superstar collections on wwe shop and fanatics get yours today
01:03:26.760 back to the show you sure you want to get into politics no i'm definitely definitely like really
01:03:32.080 thinking about it it sounds it sounds like a hard job and um i've always had an issue with like like
01:03:38.220 at the end of the day you're serving your country in a very noble way you're you're representing
01:03:42.500 your fellow american however there and i'm i mean you you probably have this but you know
01:03:49.220 like trump for example has a way more it's just like the the polarizing nature of that position
01:03:54.020 can be disheartening
01:03:55.780 because in one regard
01:03:57.860 you're serving people
01:04:00.280 but in the other regard
01:04:02.540 you're trying to serve and help 0.99
01:04:04.200 people who fucking hate you 0.99
01:04:06.620 and it's like 1.00
01:04:08.640 I feel like I'd have a hard time
01:04:12.720 with that
01:04:13.180 I mean it's like have you ever felt like
01:04:16.060 you're politically homeless
01:04:17.760 you know where it's like
01:04:20.500 hey where am I
01:04:21.520 I mean sometimes I feel that way
01:04:23.900 where it's like yeah i might agree with x y and z but even if it doesn't like can i have an example
01:04:29.400 shutting the government down shutting the government down you know i was the only democrat
01:04:34.280 to refuse to shut the government down because that's not going to produce the changes that i
01:04:38.960 might want or you know my party might want but that's a responsibility to keep the job open
01:04:44.300 it's not it's not a hard job but it is it is a tiring one because you have three jobs honestly
01:04:52.040 voting and spending time in washington dc but the other one is is is raising money raising money 1.00
01:04:59.200 to do what do you know to have enough money to convince the other person is a piece of shit 1.00
01:05:05.200 because they are raising money that's are going to convince you that you are 1.00
01:05:11.380 you know and it's like it's it's we waste so much time raising money just to do that kinds of a
01:05:17.920 thing and I would just beg people understand what's really happening unlimited money makes
01:05:23.680 that and that consumes far too much time you know in in that job so and then also if I have three
01:05:30.740 young kids you have to make a choice do you spend time away when you're already gone 70 percent of
01:05:37.400 the time so so so that doesn't make it a hard job but it makes it makes it forcing to make choices
01:05:45.060 and to realize you know if people raise you know like my gosh think of what you could do for society
01:05:53.860 the 320 million dollars spent in my race think how many people you could help with that that's
01:05:59.700 insane rather than you know calling you know people are terrible you know other people it's
01:06:06.380 it's so it's but i guess it goes back to the elon model a little to an extent because 1.00
01:06:10.660 you know that industry that spends money convincing people you're a piece of shit 0.98
01:06:15.800 also employs a lot of people there's a lot of people needed for that industry you know a lot 0.99
01:06:20.540 of writers a lot of tweeters a lot of well we we will reach we will we will reach mars i don't know
01:06:26.460 if i'll be alive to know that but i believe it will but it's probably going to because of people
01:06:30.880 like him yeah and and that's why i don't have to agree with them on everything but i will identify
01:06:36.360 him as like an Edison uh and and that's why I would never describe him as the problem of our
01:06:43.280 system yeah I think we need more people like like that now unlimited money so for me uh
01:06:51.200 it's uh it would be so much helpful for our democracy to just remove unlimited money it's
01:07:00.680 it really is a cancer so people that really understands I wanted to I wanted to ask you
01:07:06.280 why are you in favor of legalizing marijuana recreationally oh i've been on that for a long
01:07:12.560 time oh really i was also in psychedelics too you know pennsylvania maybe you don't know that
01:07:17.960 uh pennsylvania has it's it raises more mushroom it's it's the mushroom world truly yeah uh and now
01:07:26.800 more and more people realize that the psychedelics and and magic mushrooms can be helpful for mental
01:07:34.620 health and addiction too and another thing with addiction also the glp that you know yeah that is
01:07:41.540 very helpful for for addiction as well too they're learning and that's why i think we should make
01:07:45.420 sure that part of medicare and medicaid to making help people but at any rate legal weed i i don't
01:07:51.360 i don't but if you do no judgment i don't judge anyone for what they use to knock the edge off
01:07:59.460 the edge and i was in too like i don't use in but hey but that's fine great whatever you know i'm a
01:08:06.720 i'm a very libertarian in those thing where you know i don't judge people whether it's like alcohol
01:08:12.920 or it's weed or for things zen thing i support it but make sure it's legal and it's regulated
01:08:20.460 and you make sure you know exactly what people are getting and for that and you also like the
01:08:25.880 the implications on the tax uh revenue side as well from legally yeah well yeah and you could
01:08:31.640 put that towards in whether it's public education or whether that's on rehab or detox or for that
01:08:37.340 thing absolutely i don't call that a syntax i could just call that these are the products and
01:08:43.760 things that adults choose to consume and it should be legal pure and appropriately taxed to make sure
01:08:50.840 that it's supporting you know the greater good in our society you know overall do you watch wwe at
01:08:57.080 all uh oh yeah well i mean occasionally i i do i mean i grew up i'm on hulk hogan and and the
01:09:05.900 iron chic you although you can't have that anymore but you know and roddy roddy piper yeah and and i
01:09:13.460 was telling you before you know my my my experience with with wwe you know you know back in 2013
01:09:21.800 you know they made a call saying hey are you available and i'm like okay yeah and i was i was
01:09:28.620 the the body that will stand in for the big show when he was filming a show on nickelodeon you know
01:09:34.780 because they're like i'm like why i'm like well you're roughly the same size and so when they did
01:09:40.720 lighting and they sent that so i would stand there and do that and i got to meet i can meet
01:09:47.620 the guy and what a what a what a cool dude super super chill and so that's been my my well now
01:09:54.560 before now i was my up and close experience with wwe the new the new generation the new generation
01:09:59.880 yeah so but a shout out to the big show you know when he was on super ninjas
01:10:04.660 and there was a lot of roast beef involved but it was uh it was uh and i think i made
01:10:11.920 uh 111 or something there because i got like the standard fee that's so funny what was it what were
01:10:19.260 you doing at the time like how did you just have time to be a stand-in yeah yeah well i was i was
01:10:24.540 a small town mayor at the time you know like i started i was a i was a small small town mayor
01:10:30.760 and then eventually I become a
01:10:33.360 lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania and then
01:10:35.260 one of the things I championed was legal
01:10:37.340 weed
01:10:37.580 but overall
01:10:40.560 that's how it all started
01:10:42.680 that's why public service
01:10:45.600 I just didn't
01:10:46.840 I didn't wake up and say I want to
01:10:49.360 be a senator
01:10:49.920 but that was the path
01:10:52.320 but yes I was
01:10:54.720 the stand in
01:10:56.340 of
01:10:56.760 Are you going to stay for the show tonight?
01:11:00.760 no offense oh yeah well i i i have to do i do my job but i will i will watch it online though i
01:11:09.320 will watch it on online now you know too so but for overall absolutely i mean it's all it's all
01:11:16.920 great it's great entertainment and i don't you know some people like i again i loved that when
01:11:26.440 i grew up you know and one of my all-time favorite movie all time ever was the wrestler mickey roar
01:11:32.040 yeah like like the the wrestler like you know like he mickey mickey rourke you know that movie was
01:11:40.360 incredible that that that was that was profound that was a profound thing so i don't know was
01:11:44.840 that was that realistic i mean people you know i don't know like how i actually haven't watched it
01:11:49.640 i've been told i need really i know i know i'm trying to get him watching i didn't want to call
01:11:54.040 I heard, I know Mickey Rourke
01:11:56.000 You kind of need to watch it
01:11:57.600 I know, I know, I know
01:11:59.140 I don't like to give advice
01:12:02.860 Especially on like fashion and things
01:12:05.120 But check it out
01:12:07.460 Because that movie, especially you're in the biz
01:12:09.420 You know, that 0.99
01:12:10.780 That is a fucking amazing movie 0.99
01:12:12.800 He got an Oscar and he deserved it 1.00
01:12:15.660 100%
01:12:16.300 I gotta watch it
01:12:18.140 I'm coming back tonight
01:12:21.020 I tore my tricep 0.98
01:12:23.520 And my boss has let me talk shit on the mic tonight, so I'm pretty excited. 0.99
01:12:28.180 It's been a couple weeks. 0.99
01:12:30.180 Yeah.
01:12:30.540 Well, I mean, that's, you know, this job, you don't tear your tricep.
01:12:38.660 But part of it, both jobs involve a lot of professional wrestling.
01:12:43.860 Yeah.
01:12:45.640 But overall, I try to be a reasonable version of that
01:12:49.500 because uh it's an honor to be pennsylvania's voice but it also to remand people i respect
01:12:56.120 all 13 million people and just people that disagree with me on certain issues doesn't make
01:13:01.180 them they're nazis or fascists or terrible people uh you know we have to find a way forward and just
01:13:08.760 disagreeing in more respectful ways that's gonna get worse and that's i refuse to 0.91
01:13:19.780 but yeah and i love having conversations thank you for having me on john we need honestly we
01:13:25.680 need more people like you dude it's just the way that you're approaching it and trying to unite
01:13:29.440 people is it means a lot to me if that means anything to you but um we need more people
01:13:34.200 trying to unite americans man and stop stop turning us against each other dude yeah yeah i
01:13:38.680 agree i i love the mission i love what you're doing man and and good and good luck because
01:13:43.380 yeah absolutely so but having this views you know some people the democrats are angry at me 0.90
01:13:52.600 because more and more the democratic party the base really wants more fuck trump kind of a thing
01:13:58.620 so my votes are my values are reflected in the votes but but overall um i'll be an example that 0.75
01:14:07.480 can people say well at least they'll do it in a respectful way and be a reasonable or a common
01:14:14.520 sense thing in the middle of how the insanity here so but again once again thanks for having
01:14:20.080 me on here thank you john united we stand divided we fall is the one thing that i would like to end
01:14:26.300 Nice job, brother.
01:14:27.520 Nice job.
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