00:36:40.540I consider, like, the disses that I've done to be more, like, Saturday Night Live skits where it's just, like, I'm just taking jabs at the industry just, you know, being funny.
00:36:49.620I've never really, like, dissed somebody's mom or their kids and stuff like that.
00:57:33.420But I know, you know, teenagers will just do whatever the fuck rap music says.0.99
00:57:38.040I know this because literally right now, like if I make something with my clothing line, a new piece or whatever, if I start wearing fucking hops and bracelets, thousands of kids are going to fucking start showing up to my shows and to meet and greets with these same things.0.99
00:57:51.720And I mean, that's just my influence. And I'm not even like on a mainstream level.0.97
00:57:54.400So the reach is real. And people may not know this, but as a rapper, we fucking like we got power.0.97
00:58:00.560like we can press a fucking button and people just go i'm gonna do whatever he said now and0.98
00:58:05.580that's what i'm gonna do so it's so real too because i remember there was all that conversation0.99
00:58:09.080like all the way back to like doggy style from snoop dogg and people like the rap is corrupting0.98
00:58:13.120the youth of america and i was like fuck that shit dude and then jay-z dropped volume one and i said0.99
00:58:17.820i want to sell drugs dude yeah and then i started selling drugs and then he dropped volume two and1.00
00:58:22.360i was like i want to sell more drugs and then i just kept selling drugs because yo so now instead
00:58:27.700of selling drugs they're like yo you need to i think the precipice the apex and the switch over
00:58:33.580was papa molly i'm sweating yeah yeah papa molly i'm sweating people are like yo i want to sweat0.99
00:58:39.680yeah i want to papa molly and sweat and then motherfuckers start popping molly and sweating0.94
00:58:44.520at the same time it's funny but it's sad because it's so true dude and and man and this all just0.98
00:58:50.880comes down to like the hollywood scene just portraying this false image of what happiness
00:58:54.840is man and i you know i don't i don't know what lifestyle you guys live but you know i've i've
00:58:59.080had the cars i've had the lifestyle i do all these things and i've been all the crazy parties0.75
00:59:02.760and it's just like at the end every time i'm there i'm like why the fuck am i here like this0.58
00:59:07.000is literally like if and i know you guys know this when you go to any of these cool parties0.99
00:59:12.940that are going on everyone just stand the fuck around and it's a thousand motherfuckers who're0.99
00:59:16.040like oh my god you're you hey man you know i do this i'm a photographer hey come do this come0.99
00:59:19.280this and everyone's just and i get it you want to network but it's just like status no one's even
00:59:23.020having fun yeah no one's doing anything like except one crazy guy did a backflip in the pool0.98
00:59:27.280that's on that guy i'm that guy and i love that's the guy who doesn't give a fuck you're free that's0.97
00:59:32.780me don't like but everyone else is just like what are you doing everyone's just yeah also you're0.98
00:59:36.440straight edge right yeah yeah so wait wait you've never done i heard a drug yeah i'm just never i've
00:59:42.660never done anything no drug never drinking that i've never done ever never in my entire 33 years
01:24:44.640I'm in a very good position, you know, and what more do I want?
01:24:50.160Why am I still trying to reach this dream that still hasn't come true that I've been trying to reach from day one of me becoming a rapper to now?
01:24:57.080and in the process i made a shit ton of money toured around the whole world have a very large
01:25:01.620fan base and i'm still like what why did why do i feel that way i'm like ah it was a lie that there
01:25:07.360was that the dream that they sold yeah of that whole facade of you know and and i start to run
01:25:13.160into more and more artists and i'm like damn like there's some real artists behind the scenes who
01:25:16.580are just real chill genuine people um logic is one of those people as well you know when when i first0.94
01:25:22.600met him i'm like damn he's like he's you know he's up here and he's just chill you know living0.87
01:25:27.500like a normal fucking guy and and there's there's a bunch of artists like that but it's just that0.98
01:25:31.620idea of like you got a louis vuitton you got to be this person got to do that got to do that got0.99
01:25:36.460to be be here and there and be around these people and it's like nah dude life's just about
01:25:40.540happiness like do what makes you happy and if you've got your fan base you're an artist and
01:25:44.060you got fans and you know and you you're just constantly pushing yourself as an artist there's
01:25:49.620you don't need anything else like you don't need to have a manager just because it sounds cool to
01:25:54.980have that certain person now you do need it is hard to do things alone i will say that but0.97
01:25:59.740my whole operation that i have dude we're a multi-million dollar fucking company0.95
01:26:03.980it's just me and my home girl running this shit like and we got a girl we yeah jamie shout out0.95
01:26:09.580to jamie smith jamie it's and it's so simple so when i when i first started and i i came in with0.94
01:26:15.380a company called funk volume everything was you know we were building it up and we signed a bunch
01:26:20.320of artists and you know we made it we over complicated everything we felt like we had to
01:26:24.480have these companies and these distribution companies this and that so many people around0.60
01:26:28.260and then now you know all that shit ended there's lots of lots of business issues but i'm at a point
01:26:34.260now i'm like yo it's just me and jamie and you know we we hire people to you know help us do0.75
01:26:39.560things but um but these are people that are just like interns and all this stuff but it's so so0.51
01:26:43.700simple it's extremely simple and i'm like what the fuck was i doing for the past nine years and now0.54
01:26:49.300it's just a simple operation and we're getting an even bigger outcome of everything now touring is0.64
01:26:54.280so simple now um releasing albums is so simple what about getting the radio which getting out
01:26:59.300now that's a different world that's the one tricky part of going uh independent and and doing
01:27:05.980everything yourself is getting radio plays which as you you know obviously you know is super
01:27:09.460important yeah maybe not as important as it once was before the internet existed before youtube
01:27:14.220existed but still really important in terms of credibility and all that shit so how do you so
01:27:17.460it just it depends on i mean the radio you got to play the game that's that's the game i keep0.84
01:27:21.580fucking hitting this mic and jumping but yeah the radio you got to play the game and that's where
01:27:25.880you got to do that super like you got to be in that network of getting on the radio because0.99
01:27:29.640i thought i used to think and everyone still thinks this that hey you got a hit song the
01:27:34.440radio's gonna find it and be like hey who's that guy with let's play it like yeah and that's not0.53
01:27:38.540how it fucking works like it doesn't work like that at all because i i thought that it was all0.67
01:27:43.420about good music and it's not it's just about it's a club yeah yeah it really is a club and0.98
01:27:48.520yeah once i saw that because i always told myself i when i first started i was like man
01:27:52.640one day i want to make like the biggest fucking song where the radio just has to play because
01:27:57.780it's just so huge and i feel like i accomplished that even though it wasn't a radio song but i've0.90
01:28:02.100gone i feel like i was one of the first like hip independent hip-hop artists to get a million0.86
01:28:06.500views in one day like i was doing that shit a long time ago before rappers were doing that shit like0.76
01:28:11.160i and and to the point where it was like yo how could you not see me like how are you guys not0.97
01:28:15.860acknowledging me but then i realized it was a game i'm like yo like i'm killing it right now
01:28:20.040and they're still not acknowledging it so you you really got to play that game to get on the radio
01:28:24.580so doing the things with the radio i don't you know i don't have i've never been on the radio
01:28:29.180like that you know they played a single or two here and there but i've never been in heavy rotation
01:28:33.060but you know from what i do know it's just that it's that whole networking game but does russ
01:28:38.860sell out arenas he he sells he sells he has he has a very very very large fan base so so is there
01:28:45.640any artist besides him that's an independent artist who's killing it as um who's the biggest
01:28:51.080chance chance chance is independent yeah yeah yeah so it's possible it's possible yeah i don't know
01:37:10.100the whole shit and i flipped on her oh really i went nuts and she tried to throw a drink on me0.99
01:37:13.500oh shit and i ran dude it was it was yeah it was tough it was great i got it and that's there0.99
01:37:18.660yeah hi my name is teased so i freestyled on her because i'm like yo she's gonna freestyle back0.97
01:37:23.120oh she's a wild girl and she's like i'm not gonna freestyle i'm just gonna talk i'm like0.88
01:37:27.060oh my god really how it fucking works yeah yeah oh wow yeah so so you do the ill mind series and0.81
01:37:32.880i was just listening just just before we got started um which was the one where you talked0.99
01:37:36.900about your kid nine don't mind nine yeah um it stuck in my head uh it's a great fucking song0.70
01:37:44.260dude and so and i i didn't i didn't know this you have a kid in where in australia he's in0.93
01:37:48.980australia yeah he's two years old yep and the mom is just like it's the typical story i got got you
01:37:55.340know it's you got yeah yeah um i mean i i didn't get got for my money or anything but i got you0.98
01:38:00.740know for my rights of being a father and her just not giving a fuck so it's it's one of those0.51
01:38:05.540situations um i i finally met him for the first time in um in fiji a month ago that's cool so i0.73
01:38:12.640finally was able to kind of convince her to meet me up and i flew her her mother and my son out
01:38:17.920and yeah i got to meet him for a week so it was a real cool experience but yeah um is it is it
01:38:25.680painful not being able to see your son as much as you'd probably like it's the most painful thing
01:38:29.780i've ever had to deal with in my entire life like i would rather lose a leg because when you when
01:38:34.540you like all this talk that I've just been doing about like becoming successful and you're working
01:38:39.300to become the best version of yourself you know at ultimately I mean you know the reason I'm doing
01:38:45.940it is so I could have a better life for my future family for the children that I have one day and
01:38:50.840then when you're in a situation where you did everything right you're like I you know you made
01:38:57.280all the right moves and took the right steps but then when it comes to the relationship part you're0.99
01:39:01.340like fuck and then now you're in a situation where you can't see your kid and you have no way to get0.99
01:39:06.580to him and you're banned from the fucking country you're you're banned from australia yeah so it it1.00
01:39:12.340just makes you sit back and go what what happened like what where was jesus yeah that as well i0.98
01:39:19.240prayed a lot i can't lie i've prayed a lot so it just yeah it makes you question everything and
01:39:23.920then you and then you ask like and in the situation that i'm in because i've i've made money i've0.93
01:39:29.860fucked all these hot women i've traveled everywhere and you're like what else is there to life you0.83
01:39:35.200know i'm ready for my to have my son and then you can't have that so you're like what am i doing this1.00
01:39:40.280shit for anymore like am i doing it to become richer so i can were you in a relationship with0.93
01:39:44.680the girl yeah yeah no it wasn't it wasn't a one-ice thing we were together for like three0.99
01:39:48.040three and a half years oh that sucks i didn't know that yeah no no it wasn't if it was a group
01:39:52.360y'all would have been like hey i did it to myself yeah but no no this is not this is not that kind
01:39:56.400of situations oh man yeah yeah so it's it's tough and i've been using music as an outlet to vent
01:40:01.020about it just because it's all it's all i have you know so did she just go to like every measure
01:40:06.740she could to keep you away and that's what happened with like being banned and all that stuff
01:40:11.120yeah it was the reason i got banned and i made a song about it it's called hotel in sydney it will
01:40:16.440give you the the feels the real the real dark version of everything the the real emotional
01:40:22.180journey of what happened but yeah we we there was just some stuff going on we were in a hotel room
01:40:27.420and then it turned into a very mild physical argument and i don't when i say physical i don't
01:40:33.260mean like we were boxing and fucking fighting but sometimes people just grab a hand and like yeah it0.99
01:40:38.000was it was it was a lot of like it was just a lot of yelling crying tears and like what the fuck is0.99
01:40:42.900going on and just madness going on and but you know i'm not from that country so all it takes0.80
01:40:48.600is someone to just tell the police like hey he did this and it was it was a very very oh so she0.73
01:40:53.820claimed like full-on like that that that i assaulted her and that i'd fucking well i mean
01:40:57.960were there marks there was there was nothing there was nothing at there was literally nothing0.91
01:41:03.360at all and and after what yeah there was nothing at all it was just the pettiest thing you know0.97
01:41:08.960that i ever i've ever seen in my life yo that shit scares me and so yeah no i know and it's0.95
01:41:14.120you know you hear about shit like that and it's like it happened to me so um yeah and it's i0.96
01:41:19.260don't want to say i'm necessarily banned from australia forever it's just it's extremely0.97
01:41:22.440difficult to get in i'm like seven you fly there on vacation because i know you said something
01:41:26.340about your visa no i can't get no so what about disguise with a fake passport that yeah if you
01:41:31.360got a disguise i would yeah i would love to maybe it's maybe it's the contacts yeah maybe that'll
01:41:36.540work you know what i i don't know man yeah maybe it is you you said a you said a part really uh
01:41:42.480before you said it a bunch of times about traveling and being with all these girls and
01:41:47.020stuff like that and i see a like a an inner battle that you have that i think drake so drake has this
01:41:54.620song called is there more yeah we talked about drake before a lot and he says is there more to
01:41:59.080life than going on trips to dubai yachts on the fourth of july g5 sore in the sky is there more0.96
01:42:03.240life than all these corporate ties and all these fortunate times and all these asses never come in
01:42:06.800proportionate size am i missing something that's more important to find like healing my soul like
01:42:10.060family time yeah yeah and like i feel like it's so it's it's interesting at the least to watch
01:42:17.020rappers who everyone aspires to be who have gotten everything the fast cars the girls all these0.77
01:42:22.660things just wishing they could have a fucking normal life bro see their kids yeah yeah you know0.93
01:42:28.220it's so it's it's crazy that turmoil between wanting to make it and then making it and wishing0.97
01:42:33.160you never had yeah it's fucked up because what what tends to happen to me like i'll do something0.76
01:42:37.020like um the more money i make now the more depressed i become because it's because the0.88
01:42:42.600more lonely i feel because the i don't know if you guys have ever been through this but when you
01:42:47.480do something great like some type of experience whatever with with the fans there and they're
01:42:52.100like yeah and they're praising you and then when you go home you're like it's just quiet and you're
01:42:57.140just and you and no one no one's there and you're just like it's just me in the world like i just
01:43:03.100it's just me and then you're like i'm i'm rich and that is that all i am i'm i'm a character
01:43:08.400that people know as hops in the rapper is that all i am am i just and and what else is there and0.85
01:43:14.040then you're like what am i doing this for what the fuck did i do to myself and then you and then0.77
01:43:18.960and yeah it just it gets to a point where now and you got people around you who want you to0.76
01:43:24.100make more business moves like do this this is gonna be huge you know and we're gonna make this
01:43:27.740much money and then you start going like but why like if i already have x amount and what what more
01:43:35.520what is it going to do for anything like i you sometimes you really feel like killing yourself0.98
01:43:39.120you're just like what the fuck dude like it just and it's the and it's the love part i know it like0.97
01:43:44.560i said it's it's the love part if you don't have anything to go home to aside from all that hollywood1.00
01:43:49.420fucking fame life shit and all that money you're it is going to fuck you up you hear jim carrey0.99
01:43:56.220talk about this shit all the time it is and you don't you don't want to believe it because when1.00
01:44:00.240you're broke i mean when you're broke you have a lot a lot of other struggles some money will0.99
01:44:03.220help you but when you when you're finally in a place where you're like sometimes i'm i sit at
01:44:07.920home and i'm like i could fly anywhere in the world i want to right now on a first class flight
01:44:13.040by myself and that that's the part that hurts like by myself and that's and i don't want it
01:44:18.680you don't want to do these things by yourself like you don't want to do who wants to just
01:44:21.900go to dubai by themselves i mean some people will i'm not that type of person though but
01:44:26.140And then you're like, I can buy anything I want right now by myself. I can get the coolest house by myself. And then you start to think like, damn, I contributed so much into my career. I forgot that I was a person at the end of the day. And now I'm suffering from that right now.
01:44:42.760So whatever went wrong in my last relationship, whatever, all those decisions I made, yeah, I just didn't, I valued my career, my money, everything a lot more than I valued my personal self-care.
01:44:55.440And that's where I, that's why I'm at where I'm at now.
01:44:58.020And yeah, which is also important for people to understand like money, it really doesn't buy happiness.
01:45:03.200It can buy temporary happiness because I'm not going to lie.0.99
01:45:05.200You buy some shit for a moment and you get a lump sum of money and you go do some shit.0.99
01:45:09.280You'll feel cool for a little bit, but it doesn't last.1.00
01:45:11.960by the way you've the thing about you that's good and you should be looking at as a positive0.89
01:45:16.640every single fucking day you wake up is that you've identified this yeah yeah you know i'm0.80
01:45:19.900saying and you're moving in a direction of making that right you know what i'm saying and like a lot0.99
01:45:24.220of people dot you know have a heart attack and die on their g5 by themselves yeah as they're0.52
01:45:28.940flying to fucking switzerland yeah yeah they never figure it out they never we we did a breathing0.99
01:45:33.420exercise a couple weeks or maybe a week ago and i came out of it with tears in my fucking eyes and0.98
01:45:37.820i said i realized the only thing that matters not one of the things that matters not one of the0.96
01:45:41.420important things the only thing that matters in this life is human connection yeah that's it0.74
01:45:45.160no that's it that's the only fucking thing there's nothing else to do there's no money's great all0.82
01:45:49.340that shit's great and by the way it comes and goes yeah but if you don't have those solid human0.99
01:45:52.820connections and the good friends and the good family your life is meaningless it's true i i0.99
01:45:57.740agree i totally agree and people i i know i personally slept on the connection with just
01:46:02.940people whether it's friends or whoever it's just like yeah people can make you feel better and if
01:46:08.220you surround yourself with the right friends you know there's there's great things out there and
01:46:12.540I you know I've been as of lately I've been trying to be more adventurous because I've been um instead
01:46:16.080of like um working so hard on trying to become an even more famous rapper and get the coolest
01:46:22.380collabs I can think of and what and do the coolest public things I I've been doing just I've been
01:46:28.760taking trips to places that are just like islands that I always wanted to go to and just seeing
01:46:32.860different cultures and just and walking down the street over there like just walking down the street
01:55:24.180He gets right up next to the microphone.
01:55:25.900I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
01:55:29.020You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.
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01:55:41.840I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcast, the true crime comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
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