Impaulsive with Logan Paul - Joe Budden On Diddy Serving 4 Years in JAIL, iShowSpeed Passing Kai Cenat, Travis Scott WWE Fail

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00:00:28.440 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Joe Budden.

00:00:31.000 I see a lot of clips of you looking kind of angry.

00:00:33.160 You just wrong. 0.99

00:00:33.960 Shut the f*** up and be wrong. 0.99

00:00:35.520 That is a total internet misconception. 0.99

00:00:37.940 It's performative.

00:00:39.380 Who do you think actually won the Drake of Kendrick Beef?

00:00:41.760 I think they got it right.

00:00:42.720 Who's they?

00:00:43.780 Do you think four years was not enough for Diddy?

00:00:45.640 It's an interesting question.

00:00:46.560 Did Jeffrey Epstein f***ing so?

00:00:47.740 Something happened to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:00:49.240 Yo, there's like a missing part of the tape, bro.

00:00:51.940 Yeah.

00:00:52.320 You familiar with the streamers?

00:00:53.680 I'm happy every time I see Speed do a backflip.

00:00:55.720 Hey, look who he's flipping around Denzel now.

00:00:58.440 The only reason why I don't think the Illuminati is real

00:01:01.540 is because I definitely haven't gotten the invite yet.

00:01:03.500 What's your definition of Illuminati?

00:01:04.940 Pillars of power and control.

00:01:06.380 In secrecy.

00:01:06.900 He's in. 0.90

00:01:07.420 Holy ****.

00:01:08.220 I do want to ask you about Rory and Mal. 0.61

00:01:10.340 Do you wish that things had gone differently?

00:01:12.360 Listen, in hindsight,

00:01:13.800 what do you think about Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua?

00:01:15.480 Two personalities, two people that are going to sell the fight,

00:01:17.420 two people that are actually likable.

00:01:18.620 You think Jake's likable?

00:01:19.420 I think a lot of people like Jake. 1.00

00:01:20.460 Maybe not a lot of black people.

00:01:22.340 You know what I'm trying to do?

00:01:23.060 I was very excited for him to enter the WWE.

00:01:25.440 We were supposed to team up.

00:01:26.180 The day that it was supposed to be announced, he didn't show up.

00:01:29.620 And I think what happened is...

00:01:31.760 Hey, am I tripping or is that light changing hue? 0.98

00:01:45.460 What is this, an interactive podcast with light changes and shit? 0.98

00:01:50.340 I know my production. 1.00

00:01:51.620 I don't like that shit. 1.00

00:01:52.240 See, it's warm now, now it's cold. 1.00

00:01:54.580 See, they changed the coffee table since last time I was here.

00:01:57.080 That's the best we got.

00:01:58.120 That's what I found.

00:01:58.920 Yo, this is the first time where us and the guests all sat down

00:02:01.760 and just started making observations about the podcast studio.

00:02:04.620 Yo, the hue's on that light right there.

00:02:06.340 There's something wrong on there.

00:02:07.000 And Joe's like, yo, I think they changed the coffee table

00:02:09.380 since the last time I sat here.

00:02:11.080 The whole coffee table is right there, right next to you.

00:02:13.600 Yeah.

00:02:14.740 We're also all sitting the same way.

00:02:16.400 That's pretty interesting.

00:02:17.200 Dude, you got to, I mean, bro, you got to keep in mind,

00:02:19.760 And it's not often that we have another professional podcaster on the show.

00:02:26.120 Podcaster and rapper.

00:02:28.720 Rapper podcaster.

00:02:30.020 Joe, how do we say it?

00:02:31.440 Former rapper.

00:02:32.560 Yeah.

00:02:33.080 Or, yeah, I don't even like that.

00:02:35.360 Does that hurt you a little bit?

00:02:36.720 Former rapper. 0.85

00:02:37.940 That sounds nuts.

00:02:39.060 People don't really say it often.

00:02:40.540 Yeah.

00:02:40.800 People don't really say it.

00:02:42.080 Either say MC or just podcaster.

00:02:45.860 Yeah.

00:02:46.820 But whatever you guys want to say, I'm totally fine with it.

00:02:48.880 Did you have an intro that you wanted to hammer home?

00:02:51.180 Yeah, no, can we call you Joe?

00:02:52.480 Sure.

00:02:53.380 Joe Budden?

00:02:53.980 Yeah.

00:02:54.880 Perfect.

00:02:55.360 That'll work.

00:02:56.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Joe Budden.

00:02:58.620 Yeah, he's just a human at the end of the day.

00:03:00.600 I like Logan's way of doing it.

00:03:02.020 Let's call his name.

00:03:03.720 How are you, dude?

00:03:04.640 I'm real good.

00:03:05.360 I'm real good.

00:03:06.020 Thank you guys for having me.

00:03:07.720 Yeah, of course.

00:03:08.640 Of course.

00:03:09.300 Thanks for joining us.

00:03:10.260 Please, anytime.

00:03:10.880 You've been here in the studio?

00:03:12.080 I've been here.

00:03:12.860 We did some work here recently, maybe last month.

00:03:15.020 Shout-out to Pod with Rolling Stone.

00:03:16.480 Shout-out to them.

00:03:17.100 Yeah, you're active.

00:03:18.700 I'm not really that active.

00:03:19.720 You're not that active?

00:03:20.040 When people call me for pause, I don't come.

00:03:22.080 Why did you say yes to this podcast?

00:03:24.000 Because why not?

00:03:25.880 Well, that can't be the only rationale.

00:03:27.620 You had to have a little bit more than that.

00:03:29.040 Well, sure I can.

00:03:30.280 You got an album or something to promote?

00:03:31.940 Not at all.

00:03:33.840 Not promoting a thing.

00:03:34.860 You want to show the product?

00:03:35.660 I was in the house with my baby.

00:03:37.680 Figured I'd get out and get some air.

00:03:39.240 This is great, dude.

00:03:40.500 There's air here. 1.00

00:03:41.140 Talk some guy shit. 1.00

00:03:42.160 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:42.560 Yeah, why not?

00:03:43.200 Hell yeah.

00:03:43.820 Like the camping, fishing, or the fights?

00:03:46.440 You watched the fights last night?

00:03:47.540 No, I didn't see any of them.

00:03:48.660 Do you watch any boxing, UFC, any of them?

00:03:50.600 Sometimes.

00:03:51.220 You watch when Jake Paul fights?

00:03:53.360 I've seen Jake Paul fight.

00:03:55.280 Not UFC.

00:03:56.320 Not boxing?

00:03:56.940 Yeah, boxing.

00:03:57.600 You didn't watch the Tyson fight?

00:03:59.080 Yeah.

00:04:00.160 You did or you didn't?

00:04:01.280 I did.

00:04:02.100 Why do you say it like that?

00:04:03.440 Come on, guys.

00:04:04.040 Come on.

00:04:04.280 Don't make me do it.

00:04:04.760 No, come on.

00:04:05.380 You got to do it.

00:04:06.380 You got to do it.

00:04:06.740 You're joking.

00:04:07.020 Come on.

00:04:07.560 Don't make me do it.

00:04:09.060 You got to do it.

00:04:09.960 I mean, I didn't expect much from Mike in the fight.

00:04:13.880 I've interviewed Mike before.

00:04:15.660 He's a great guy.

00:04:16.700 Yeah.

00:04:16.900 But I'm not really in the business of seeing people his age fight.

00:04:22.120 You didn't expect much from him?

00:04:23.780 Not at all.

00:04:24.480 See, I know people your age who expected a lot from him,

00:04:28.180 who thought he was really going to knock out my brother.

00:04:30.140 Based on?

00:04:31.080 The fact that he's Mike Tyson.

00:04:32.340 Because he's Mike just off Nate?

00:04:33.940 Yeah, I don't think they'd, like, know boxing.

00:04:37.060 And I know people who are generally like,

00:04:39.180 man, I thought Mike was going to, you know, really give it more.

00:04:41.800 I'm like, bro.

00:04:43.220 I didn't think Mike would,

00:04:44.440 and I didn't think that Jake would really want to hurt him.

00:04:47.880 That's exactly what happened.

00:04:49.600 Yeah, and that's what it looked like.

00:04:50.800 And that's what it looked like.

00:04:51.840 But you don't think it plays off of people's preconceived notions.

00:04:54.920 You spend a lifetime looking at Iron Mike Tyson, right?

00:04:57.760 You grow up with him.

00:04:59.160 He's an animal.

00:05:00.100 He's not even a human.

00:05:01.100 He's an animal.

00:05:01.600 He doesn't follow the same guidelines as humans.

00:05:03.920 Age may not even affect him because of how violent and visceral he is.

00:05:08.500 I think a lot of people went into it watching it and were just like,

00:05:10.680 oh, that's Mike Tyson.

00:05:12.020 It doesn't matter if he's 90.

00:05:13.200 Wheel him in.

00:05:13.720 We want to see him.

00:05:14.560 Uncage him.

00:05:15.260 We want to see him.

00:05:16.060 It doesn't really matter how old he is.

00:05:17.580 I don't want to see him fight, but I want to see him.

00:05:20.340 I want to hear from him.

00:05:21.160 He's arguably one of the most famous people in the world.

00:05:23.480 Yeah.

00:05:24.160 I wouldn't fight him in real life.

00:05:26.000 Hell no.

00:05:26.800 He almost took my hand off when I shook his hand.

00:05:29.180 Really?

00:05:29.580 Yeah.

00:05:30.040 He could still do some damage.

00:05:31.220 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:31.800 It's crazy when you shake someone's hand like that, who has used their hands to make this

00:05:38.180 illustrious career for themselves, and you know how dangerous those hands are.

00:05:42.020 The first time I shook Tyson's hand, I was like, oh, my God.

00:05:45.860 The damage that that right hand has done is insane. 0.99

00:05:48.880 Now there's always, like, shrooms in it and DMT pipes and shit like that. 0.99

00:05:53.260 He sat on our show and took five grams of shrooms as soon as he sat down, 0.99

00:05:58.060 like within two minutes of sitting down.

00:05:59.740 Wow.

00:06:00.120 And he chewed on them.

00:06:00.900 Chewed them for a good 30 minutes.

00:06:02.300 I said, Mike.

00:06:02.840 He's into it.

00:06:03.400 Would you like some water? 1.00

00:06:04.220 He said, nah, I just like the shit in my teeth. 1.00

00:06:07.460 Yeah, he broke down toad when I was on his shit. 1.00

00:06:09.340 He's really into all of the ayahuasca. 1.00

00:06:11.740 I think it's worked, though.

00:06:13.400 Dude, he is wise.

00:06:14.300 Calm him down, right? 1.00

00:06:15.280 He calmed him down, and he, like, knows shit. 1.00

00:06:18.540 To an extent. 0.99

00:06:19.240 He doesn't think – he thinks, what was it, drugs come from dinosaurs?

00:06:22.880 Like, certain things are starting to swap.

00:06:24.920 There are some things that kind of get a bit off the rails.

00:06:28.880 Yeah.

00:06:29.460 Okay, so Jake Paul, Mike Tyson.

00:06:31.080 But what do you think about Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua?

00:06:34.340 That I'm interested in.

00:06:36.220 And I like it better than the other one.

00:06:39.260 Tell me why.

00:06:39.860 uh size wise age wise i think anthony joshua i like anthony joshua uh two personalities two

00:06:48.200 people that are going to sell the fight two people that are actually likable you think

00:06:52.540 jake's likable i think a lot of people like jake maybe not a lot of black people but every time

00:06:58.540 he knocks out a black person bro i feel like his stock goes down even more with the community yeah

00:07:03.540 You know what I'm saying? 0.98

00:07:04.820 Dude, I swear to you, bro, every time, bro.

00:07:07.940 I think Jake is the face of this just new phenomenon

00:07:13.320 that people are having a hard time understanding.

00:07:15.580 Back to Mike Tyson, right?

00:07:16.640 Like, how could you, no matter what I'm saying about wanting to see Mike fight,

00:07:21.540 you know the ticket that that brings.

00:07:23.800 You know the money that that brings.

00:07:25.080 So, I mean, you'd be hard-pressed to turn it down.

00:07:27.860 So I think Jake is the face of this new exhibition boxing thing.

00:07:32.800 and some people are still grappling with it i think i think he's the face of even more than

00:07:36.880 that and i think it's going to be a part of the the conversation we're going to have today

00:07:39.660 i think he's the face of social media putting you in an authority position in a space and it's

00:07:49.440 something that a lot of people are having trouble with and it bleeds into hip-hop i think i think

00:07:55.180 there's people that are the biggest hip-hop artists in the world right now because they've

00:08:01.040 done such a good job promoting themselves on social media okay do you do you do you think

00:08:06.020 that here's the question i guess do you think that social media has muddied the waters of what

00:08:10.340 true emceeing and true hip-hop artistry looks like no really i don't put that at the hands of social

00:08:16.640 media no you can find anything you're looking for in social media it can either really help some 0.93

00:08:21.960 shit or really hurt some shit i don't think that really hurt emceeing not at all actually probably 0.98

00:08:29.920 some of the people that are helping create that narrative 0.99

00:08:32.080 aren't emcees, aren't

00:08:33.980 musicians, aren't people that really did

00:08:36.080 this, studied this, put in 10,000 hours,

00:08:38.020 100,000 hours. These aren't. These are just people who

00:08:40.140 are... Sorry, Joe.

00:08:41.940 Okay? Did you spill your coffee?

00:08:44.080 No, I finished it and then dropped

00:08:46.100 it. But since I finished it, the coffee

00:08:48.080 didn't actually spill. Oh, lucky

00:08:49.960 you. I fucking spilled coffee all over me in the 0.99

00:08:52.040 car, drive me at a bump. Oh, is that 0.99

00:08:53.860 what the... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:56.540 You guys are on the same time today.

00:08:58.220 I said, oh, my God, I'm going to do an interview.

00:09:00.900 But, yeah, I argue that these people aren't musicians at all.

00:09:03.080 Social media is just putting a spotlight on people just doing things.

00:09:09.980 We don't necessarily know the background or know what their area expertise is.

00:09:14.800 But you don't think that, like, having a little bit of clout can help propel a project to somewhere it wouldn't have gone if the person wasn't who they appear to be online?

00:09:25.040 Does that make sense?

00:09:26.560 Yeah, but that's a temporary.

00:09:28.140 That's a short-term thing, right?

00:09:31.000 If I go out on social media and find just somebody, not an artist,

00:09:35.160 but somebody with all the clout in the world,

00:09:37.420 life expectancy on an artist's career is probably a year and a half less than that.

00:09:41.600 So what stock am I putting in that?

00:09:43.940 I'm spending a lot behind the scenes to get this going.

00:09:48.320 I think we saw a wave of that coming out the pandemic

00:09:50.740 where a lot of labels were just going to Instagram,

00:09:53.700 seeing who had the most followers, seeing who was lit,

00:09:55.860 and giving them a record deal.

00:09:56.760 and then they learn that it doesn't quite work out like that long term.

00:09:59.840 Would you consider that like a plant, industry plant?

00:10:02.740 Oh, yeah.

00:10:03.560 Who do you think is an industry plant?

00:10:05.880 Oh, I don't know enough.

00:10:07.060 I don't know enough of the people's names to even begin to say.

00:10:09.500 Really?

00:10:09.960 Do you think 6ix9ine was an industry plant? 0.89

00:10:12.980 Maybe.

00:10:13.900 Really?

00:10:14.480 Maybe.

00:10:15.380 Do you like his work?

00:10:16.040 I don't like saying that about him because some of his music was good.

00:10:19.300 Yeah.

00:10:19.960 Yeah.

00:10:20.260 He had some tracks when he first came out that were –

00:10:23.340 I didn't want to listen to him, to be honest.

00:10:26.160 But looking back now, he had a wave.

00:10:29.880 He certainly had a wave.

00:10:31.080 I didn't listen to him, but, I mean, you heard him.

00:10:33.620 It's just not my type of music, you know?

00:10:36.100 Like, I was going to ask you a question about the intro to Kicking the Door today.

00:10:39.600 I'm still listening to that.

00:10:40.700 You know what I'm saying?

00:10:41.460 Like, where they ask the mad rapper why he's so mad.

00:10:44.080 Because I was going to ask you, why are you so mad?

00:10:46.320 I'm not mad.

00:10:47.320 Yeah, you don't look that mad.

00:10:48.420 I'm not mad at all.

00:10:49.240 Yeah, but Joe.

00:10:49.980 He's not today.

00:10:50.580 That is a total internet misconception.

00:10:53.160 But I feel like I see a lot of clips of you looking kind of angry.

00:10:57.880 It's performative.

00:11:00.260 It's not just the internet, man.

00:11:03.120 You're very chill.

00:11:04.500 Yeah, are we believing what we see on the internet?

00:11:07.500 I don't know what I believe anymore.

00:11:10.140 And that's the scary place to win.

00:11:11.560 I just don't know.

00:11:13.080 That's my ultimate conclusion about most things.

00:11:15.060 I don't know.

00:11:15.780 But I've definitely seen a lot of clips of you firing people up.

00:11:20.240 Oh, good.

00:11:21.320 Good.

00:11:22.380 That's his plan.

00:11:23.300 That's why.

00:11:23.800 I'm good at what I do.

00:11:25.320 Yeah, that is true.

00:11:26.080 I mean, yeah, yeah, you're here.

00:11:27.860 Yeah, I'm good at what I do.

00:11:28.760 Yeah.

00:11:29.360 So what do you, so we're in the first time in, what, like 30 years where we've got no hip-hop in the top charts.

00:11:37.440 Yeah, it's been a thing, a talking point.

00:11:39.560 For the past, what, two weeks or so, right? 0.99

00:11:42.020 What the fuck is going on?

00:11:43.020 What are you listening to in 2025 that is from the past? 0.98

00:11:47.760 like are there any artists right now that you actually are listening to that are putting on

00:11:52.580 music right now uh yeah there's a bunch of them like who uh ransom are you familiar with ransom

00:12:00.780 he's from jersey city he just put a project out with dj premiere cardi just dropped recently i

00:12:07.200 love that yeah uh who else rob 49 is dope uh all of the memphis everybody in memphis is dope right

00:12:15.620 Nobody breaking through on the ultra mainstream to you right now.

00:12:20.000 You're not listening to Trav.

00:12:21.500 You're not listening to Cardi.

00:12:23.060 Well, I'm listening to Cardi.

00:12:23.820 I just said Cardi.

00:12:24.260 Playboy Cardi.

00:12:25.320 No.

00:12:26.560 No, I'll be 45.

00:12:29.180 I'll be 45 years old.

00:12:30.340 Well, I'll be 46, actually.

00:12:31.880 We're not going to listen to Playboy Cardi.

00:12:33.380 Do you listen to Playboy Cardi?

00:12:34.560 I don't.

00:12:35.300 I don't.

00:12:35.620 Do you dye your beard?

00:12:36.740 No, no, no.

00:12:37.600 I got to start asking questions, bro.

00:12:39.780 Once you start bringing up Playboy Cardi, I got to see what's happening.

00:12:43.720 Like, how old is this guy really?

00:12:46.300 Should I be listening to Playboy Guardi?

00:12:48.540 Do you listen to Playboy Guardi?

00:12:49.760 I don't.

00:12:50.380 Yeah.

00:12:50.980 Do you know?

00:12:52.500 It's okay.

00:12:54.200 You know location, probably. 1.00

00:12:56.960 See, these fucking guys try to force these people down here. 1.00

00:12:59.300 Who gives a fuck? 1.00

00:13:00.080 Some of his early shit I listened to. 1.00

00:13:02.340 I thought I had good production, and I listened to some of his earlier shit. 0.99

00:13:05.160 And I do listen. 0.98

00:13:05.860 I listen to Travis.

00:13:07.180 I do.

00:13:07.640 I actually listen to Travis.

00:13:09.460 Okay.

00:13:09.880 Do not like any of his music.

00:13:10.980 You don't think anything off of any of his albums.

00:13:14.000 No Astroworld.

00:13:14.980 I think Travis Scott post-Astroworld has been a mess. 0.97

00:13:22.960 I don't want to give you guys all this fucking clickbait about people I don't even speak to. 0.85

00:13:26.400 I mean, speak about normally, but I'm not. 0.71

00:13:28.880 You like Travis's last project? 1.00

00:13:30.860 What, Jackboys? 0.99

00:13:32.280 No, no, not Jackboys. 0.99

00:13:33.500 Don't try.

00:13:34.160 Did you like Jackboys, too? 1.00

00:13:36.460 Not really.

00:13:38.060 So it didn't matter what album I said after Astroworld.

00:13:40.920 I'm talking about him, his album.

00:13:44.980 he seems to be going through a similar evolutionary chaos

00:13:52.940 that I think a lot of rappers have in the past.

00:13:56.160 It's like he's a writer for Rolling Stone.

00:13:57.860 That was good.

00:13:58.620 Dude, listen, listen. 0.98

00:13:59.200 That was fucking smooth what he just did. 0.98

00:14:00.880 He's a pro. 0.99

00:14:01.860 All right.

00:14:02.940 He's the best other author.

00:14:04.080 He's the best other author.

00:14:05.040 He actually is.

00:14:05.540 Yeah, I can tell.

00:14:06.520 And the resident fence sitter, too.

00:14:08.400 Yeah, he'll never pick a side.

00:14:09.780 But no, but.

00:14:10.240 Okay, I'm going to get him to pick a side.

00:14:12.000 I'm going to get him to pick a side today.

00:14:13.300 He doesn't want any beefs.

00:14:14.220 Like, this guy's clean. 0.99

00:14:14.980 But he just did some crazy shit in Tokyo, a lot of merch. 0.99

00:14:19.320 No, he's the big, dude, Travis. 0.99

00:14:20.520 That brand is humongous.

00:14:22.400 His brand is really huge.

00:14:23.620 He's going to sell all the merch.

00:14:24.780 He's going to get all the streams.

00:14:25.720 So we're talking about Utopia.

00:14:27.620 Yeah.

00:14:28.140 2023, right?

00:14:29.460 Yeah.

00:14:30.000 You've got Meltdown with Drake.

00:14:34.080 We'll get to Drake.

00:14:35.040 Don't worry.

00:14:35.440 We don't have to get to that now.

00:14:36.820 You got Fiend.

00:14:37.500 Oh, you guys, he wrote that down.

00:14:39.900 It's definitely on the PDF.

00:14:41.540 It's on the PDF.

00:14:43.200 It's okay.

00:14:43.640 You got Fiend.

00:14:44.980 Which, call it what you want, becomes a global anthem.

00:14:50.060 Okay.

00:14:51.400 Is that an overstatement?

00:14:52.320 That was a stretch.

00:14:53.320 Really?

00:14:53.760 A global anthem?

00:14:55.480 Really?

00:14:55.880 Where?

00:14:57.360 Everywhere.

00:14:58.020 WrestleMania 22?

00:14:59.540 Bro, come on. 0.99

00:15:00.740 Have you seen what the guys in Brazil, they created an earthquake? 1.00

00:15:04.120 Like an actual, like, made it onto the Richter scale earthquake. 1.00

00:15:08.060 Small.

00:15:08.840 Very small.

00:15:09.960 Because there was 110,000 people singing that song.

00:15:12.940 Trav sells out.

00:15:14.980 Do you know him?

00:15:16.140 Yeah.

00:15:16.760 Okay.

00:15:17.520 But it's not.

00:15:18.000 I can tell when people text people.

00:15:21.740 You know how he knows him?

00:15:23.420 Because he's saying Trav. 1.00

00:15:24.500 Yeah, who the fuck is Trav? 0.99

00:15:25.640 Like they're buddies. 1.00

00:15:28.180 Trav.

00:15:28.800 Trav, my guy Trav. 0.99

00:15:30.000 Fucking Trav. 0.99

00:15:30.580 Shout out Trav. 1.00

00:15:31.460 Shout out Cheetos.

00:15:32.660 Shout out to all you guys. 1.00

00:15:34.440 Shout out to his whole fucking phone book. 0.99

00:15:36.920 I'm just saying, scoreboard. 0.99

00:15:38.320 look what okay let me ask you this what's the metric for success depends on who you ask i'm 0.97

00:15:46.960 asking you uh for me freedom to do what the fuck you want to do you think you think he's doing

00:15:55.520 what i said for me yeah i don't think his metric for success is that at all he's probably much 0.96

00:16:03.120 higher so you think that the latest clips project was far better than the latest travis project far

00:16:11.860 would be understatement yeah bounds it was an incredible album leaps and bounds mouths just

00:16:20.320 eons to two totally different worlds i mean that travis your man so i mean i'll calm down but

00:16:26.760 night and day i mean night and day on a different planet the album of the year

00:16:33.020 And what it means. I mean, I think so. I think so. And outside of the music, just what it meant for such a legendary group who's been on hiatus.

00:16:46.040 Malice left the game, went to do Push It was by itself, holding it down for them to reunite, for the people that were there for grinding and all of that 20 years ago.

00:16:55.940 for that to yeah that's like this that's like mob deep mob deep just drop out rest in peace

00:17:00.620 prodigy that's like that's like that for the people that were there that's what it feels like

00:17:04.600 travis target so many skews so many skews so many skews hey yo i'm sorry i used to do it in my vlogs

00:17:19.100 it's the entrance for my theme song hey yo i'm sorry i got two shirts up on wwe shop fanatics

00:17:24.400 right now i hate logan paul yes i am the one behind it you're gonna monetize the haters and

00:17:31.000 still humble because after all i am your humble king and i'm gonna stay humble because i'm just

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00:19:25.060 But just don't say it out loud.

00:19:26.140 I hate that job.

00:19:27.060 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy and he's going to whisk you away and I'll never see you again. 0.95

00:19:32.340 Would you say a D-less actor?

00:19:35.760 D?

00:19:37.740 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.

00:19:39.560 No, no, no.

00:19:40.200 I mean like.

00:19:40.580 I can't even get on the C-list.

00:19:41.660 Like I'm not even average.

00:19:42.520 I'm not even passing.

00:19:43.500 I'm failing.

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00:19:55.680 You know Trav?

00:19:57.380 Yeah, I know Trav.

00:19:58.180 Through WWE.

00:19:59.500 No, no, no.

00:20:00.140 We had a...

00:20:01.120 What happened with that?

00:20:02.640 I think I know what happened as someone who's in the WWE.

00:20:05.840 I think I know what happened without being told what happened,

00:20:07.960 but can kind of read between the lines of what was going on.

00:20:11.680 What can you say?

00:20:13.260 I can say whatever I want.

00:20:15.320 I want to say this is my— 1.00

00:20:16.260 Where the fuck? 0.99

00:20:16.780 That's success. 1.00

00:20:17.400 See?

00:20:18.440 Just that fast.

00:20:20.180 Here's what I think happened.

00:20:20.920 He ain't gonna.

00:20:22.980 He can.

00:20:23.760 He's not gonna.

00:20:24.540 Come on.

00:20:24.840 I'm gonna.

00:20:25.460 Here's what I think happened.

00:20:26.820 And, you know, I like Trav.

00:20:28.120 I like Trav.

00:20:28.840 We had a moment, like, years ago before he came in the WWE where we were at a club,

00:20:33.900 and we, like, shared a bottle together.

00:20:37.320 And we were, like, kind of looking at each other, like, a little bit, like—

00:20:40.040 At 11.

00:20:40.640 Yeah, we kind of fell in love in that moment.

00:20:42.920 Yeah, it was weird.

00:20:44.600 Okay.

00:20:45.080 Yeah.

00:20:45.480 Yeah.

00:20:46.340 Okay.

00:20:47.160 I'll never forget it.

00:20:48.980 Anyways. 1.00

00:20:49.420 Fuck, dude. 1.00

00:20:51.900 Anyways, I was very excited, obviously, for him to enter the WWE. 1.00

00:20:55.920 And we were supposed to team up with one other person.

00:21:00.820 It was supposed to be a three-on-three.

00:21:02.720 Okay.

00:21:02.960 And the day that it was supposed to be announced, he didn't show up.

00:21:08.560 And I think what happened is, my guess is, he probably realized at some point that it's really physically demanding, really hard, and a lot of work.

00:21:20.960 It's probably too much commitment for someone who is a rock star of his caliber.

00:21:26.000 Like, Bad Bunny loves it and put in the time and became a good wrestler.

00:21:31.920 Wrestling is a lot about navigating pain.

00:21:34.260 It all really hurts.

00:21:36.180 and and some things hurt less but it all hurts and so i think a lot of people think that the

00:21:41.440 mat is like bouncy and soft like i i certainly thought that before i got in wwe and the first

00:21:46.600 time i touched the the canvas i was like when do they bring in the the trampoline mat like no

00:21:51.980 i'll go okay but what about the prop chairs no there are no prop there's no prop chairs and i'm

00:21:57.840 i'm not saying this this is this is this is real like it it hurts and i and i think at some point

00:22:03.620 Travis probably realized it's pretty hard.

00:22:06.200 I would like to see him make a real run at it.

00:22:08.800 You got it.

00:22:09.260 You know, but, yeah, I think that's what happened.

00:22:11.580 I could say that, I think.

00:22:13.280 That was safe.

00:22:13.900 He said it.

00:22:14.680 He said it.

00:22:15.240 That's what I think.

00:22:16.060 So no artists that break through to you, that are currently.

00:22:19.080 I'm sure there's a bunch that break through.

00:22:20.820 I'm not keeping up with it.

00:22:22.180 I'm listening to Wale, who just dropped, and Summer Walker.

00:22:25.980 I'm an R&B head.

00:22:27.020 Okay.

00:22:27.440 I'm an R&B head.

00:22:28.360 I don't really care what they're doing in the rap world.

00:22:30.720 Are you worried at all about, like, you're obviously,

00:22:33.620 super opinionated guy aren't we all i don't think so not as much as you no i just like him too much

00:22:41.160 but like yeah i wish i could talk less for a living i'm not at that part when you're a podcast

00:22:47.200 yeah that's what i'm saying it's tough no but i i hear you i i often get in trouble simply because i 0.90

00:22:53.000 say too much and by the way i i put out shit on my own platform that then fucks me so it's like 0.93

00:22:59.400 Why did I even – why did I have to put that out? 0.99

00:23:02.920 Why did I say it?

00:23:04.180 Why is it out?

00:23:04.780 It's my fault through and through.

00:23:05.940 But I feel like you guys look at that differently.

00:23:08.460 I think when you say something that gets global pickup and you're like, wow, this is a fucked up take or a crazy opinion or whatever, you're just like, yo, this is what I got out of it.

00:23:18.540 Like people are talking. 0.97

00:23:19.520 Well, that's why I'm sicko. 0.99

00:23:19.860 Very rarely am I looking at it and saying, wow, that's a fucked up take. 0.98

00:23:24.500 Like I stand in whatever it is that I say. 0.96

00:23:27.220 It's just in real life, I'm not running around blurting my opinions around.

00:23:30.340 I'm just keeping them to myself.

00:23:31.280 Are you always cool with, like, after you say something and something massive arises out of it,

00:23:37.440 and it turns into this, like, massive, like, Twitter, you know, trending situation?

00:23:41.800 Are you always, like, happy that that happened? 0.99

00:23:43.500 Or are there ever times where you're like, why did I get into this shit? 0.99

00:23:45.820 Even keel about it. 1.00

00:23:47.460 Who cares?

00:23:48.780 Who cares?

00:23:49.420 I'm not into it.

00:23:50.220 It doesn't affect me too much one way or the other.

00:23:52.680 Even if everybody's riding against you?

00:23:55.460 I mean, even if that's what it normally is.

00:23:58.680 You never go in there and people are just, hey.

00:24:01.620 That's what I was going to ask.

00:24:02.880 That's what I was going to ask.

00:24:04.260 Like, do you, I don't mean this like in an ethnic way at all,

00:24:11.100 but like do you ever feel like you are the minority opinion?

00:24:16.140 I'm probably going to always be the minority.

00:24:18.120 Really?

00:24:18.780 Yeah.

00:24:19.600 Yeah, my brain works differently.

00:24:21.920 And it's not to be contrarian.

00:24:23.940 It's not purposefully done, but I'm probably going to be the minority opinion.

00:24:29.300 Really? That's kind of what I'm asking.

00:24:30.900 I'm just curious about that.

00:24:32.480 Does that say something about your opinions to you?

00:24:40.900 No, not so much about my opinions.

00:24:43.280 I'm pretty unique.

00:24:44.380 I didn't need the internet to tell me.

00:24:46.100 Do you ever choose the contrarian opinion just because it is that?

00:24:48.780 No.

00:24:50.020 No.

00:24:50.800 Not when these clips start flying around, right?

00:24:53.020 If you feel something, if you feel something, then say it.

00:24:56.300 And then you deal with the blowback because you feel that way. 0.99

00:25:00.120 Not just get on there saying a bunch of reckless shit to go viral. 0.97

00:25:03.920 I think that that's the goal today for a lot of people is to get some motion online. 0.98

00:25:08.760 And I don't, I'm not from that world. 1.00

00:25:11.140 I hate that shit too. 1.00

00:25:12.680 Like all the politics, like all that stuff. 1.00

00:25:14.720 It's such a, it's such an easy cheat code.

00:25:16.420 It's such an easy way to, dude, pick a, pick a side, ride for that side,

00:25:21.520 Go against the other side as much as possible.

00:25:23.260 It's like the easiest route to success right now.

00:25:25.540 Yeah, but like you said, it is a route to success, and people are saying that. 0.99

00:25:30.080 So people are making a lot of money by just spewing shit, whether they believe it or not. 0.97

00:25:37.500 People are making a lot of money just doing anything. 0.99

00:25:41.280 Yeah.

00:25:41.940 One place you didn't have a contrarian opinion was on the Drake and Kendrick beef.

00:25:47.160 Maybe you did.

00:25:48.060 Who's your friends in this one?

00:25:49.840 Come on, give it to me.

00:25:50.980 I live in L.A.

00:25:51.420 that doesn't tell me who your friends are in this one i'm not i don't ride with my friends on this 0.73

00:25:58.080 one dude i'm a fucking drake stan dude i am i am through and through dude i'm gonna be excited 0.91

00:26:03.900 listen there's one guy that's not leaving the fucking top 100 anytime soon he's gonna be 0.93

00:26:09.860 hanging out there right iceman about to drop soon i would say so looking back now who do you think 0.97

00:26:18.000 won that that beef oh you're trolling me i'm just asking you you're trolling me no i'm just asking

00:26:24.460 what if what you're doing what if there's people that have that don't know your opinion what there's

00:26:27.740 to get this thing good that it's in a gotcha podcast i'm not sure i'm not sure uh is this

00:26:33.900 whoa whoa whoa whoa no way you can't do that in such an important moment i didn't know this was

00:26:40.260 connected get him out get him out studio get the owner the owner out of my bed my bed dude yo that

00:26:46.460 might have been like some sort of like way to get him to they might be communicating bro oh no

00:26:51.540 it was white noise in my ears no i heard it no that was horrible that was awful dude i'm chilling

00:26:57.660 dude i'm good the mic is pretty loud you can turn the uh what is it ask the question clean for a

00:27:06.080 clip that's the question i got it no no no you didn't we're still library two years looking

00:27:12.380 back who do you think actually won the drake kendrick beef i think they got it right with who

00:27:19.140 won that one who's they everyone everyone who knows music you think it's that clean

00:27:27.540 it's pretty it's as clean as it could be i know what you're saying okay like from a lyricism and

00:27:34.520 a and a and a music standpoint the whole world or the majority of people rode with kendrick in

00:27:40.820 terms of that the outcome yeah okay were there any points throughout that back and forth where

00:27:46.000 you thought drake made a song that was worth giving him some props on his i gave him props

00:27:52.140 on all of them except for maybe the last one the heart heart part six that wasn't my my bag but i

00:27:59.280 gave him props on all of them what was the one that had the that had the two different beats on

00:28:02.720 it meet the no no you're talking about um see i can't even remember names anymore and that's how

00:28:10.160 you know, when someone lost.

00:28:12.120 That was a real heavyweight fight.

00:28:13.800 It was a real heavyweight fight.

00:28:15.040 It was.

00:28:15.700 It was.

00:28:16.220 I think we deserved it.

00:28:17.300 I was really happy about it when it happened.

00:28:19.680 I was calling for it to happen for a long time.

00:28:21.780 I think they were building up to it for over a decade.

00:28:24.720 That was awesome.

00:28:25.700 It was very exciting.

00:28:27.900 I remember the latest track would drop,

00:28:30.420 and we'd listen to it on repeat, just picking everything apart.

00:28:33.160 It was really exciting.

00:28:34.820 I'm a Drake guy.

00:28:36.100 That's my guy.

00:28:37.860 I'm a Drake guy.

00:28:38.620 I mean, he's not my guy.

00:28:39.380 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:40.640 Are you a Drake guy?

00:28:42.100 Yeah, I love him.

00:28:42.920 Really?

00:28:43.280 The music.

00:28:44.160 I mean, how could you not?

00:28:45.080 At one point, you really did.

00:28:46.980 And then it seemed like you kind of like simmered on him a little bit.

00:28:50.260 I think that what goes up has to come down.

00:28:52.260 That's not a Drake thing.

00:28:53.380 Like we were talking about before with Trav.

00:28:55.240 Exactly.

00:28:55.840 Just period what goes up.

00:28:57.060 Evolutionary chaos. 1.00

00:28:59.020 Back to this fucking guy over here. 0.99

00:29:00.860 Yeah, so I think he was just on such a streak that at some point it had to come down. 0.99

00:29:08.240 And that for you was Views?

00:29:10.600 No, no, no, no, no.

00:29:12.020 What was it?

00:29:12.740 Views was good.

00:29:14.180 Views was good.

00:29:14.460 It was after Views.

00:29:15.960 Yeah, I went on a Views rant, but Views was good.

00:29:18.380 We're talking about after maybe Scorpion?

00:29:22.320 After Scorpion.

00:29:24.760 Quality of music.

00:29:26.400 We're not talking about streams or success.

00:29:29.500 Hearing somebody that did everything he did from so far gone up into that point

00:29:34.380 and then listening to everything that came after that

00:29:36.880 just didn't sound like the same person to me.

00:29:40.440 How much credit do you give to Drake for being multi-talented?

00:29:44.340 All of it.

00:29:44.960 Because he's very funny.

00:29:45.760 How can we not?

00:29:46.220 He's very funny as well.

00:29:46.960 He can act. 1.00

00:29:47.460 He killed the Espees. 0.96

00:29:48.600 He killed SNL when he did it. 1.00

00:29:50.900 He kills.

00:29:51.600 Did you see the clip recently?

00:29:54.020 I don't know what show it was on,

00:29:55.360 but he was talking about how he got a guy.

00:29:58.360 No.

00:29:58.840 You didn't see this clip?

00:29:59.880 Oh, my God.

00:30:00.740 This is so funny.

00:30:02.740 It was, again, Drake guy.

00:30:05.300 It was cool to be reminded, like, oh, this guy's, like, A, very funny,

00:30:10.380 very talented, and is, like, multi-disciplined.

00:30:14.740 I've got to see the clip you're talking about. 0.92

00:30:15.980 Dude, it is so fucking funny. 0.97

00:30:17.680 You killed a no-guidance video. 0.99

00:30:19.840 Like, any time he pops up in those other roles, like, you can see the talent.

00:30:24.880 I don't think anyone questions this.

00:30:26.860 Yeah, fair.

00:30:27.540 So certified lover boy, no.

00:30:29.380 I mean, not for me.

00:30:30.860 Champagne poetry. 1.00

00:30:31.740 girls want girls 1.00

00:30:33.840 listen some sexy songs 1.00

00:30:36.540 some sexy songs for you

00:30:38.100 for all of the dogs

00:30:39.160 you didn't like

00:30:40.260 great

00:30:40.840 I'm not counting those

00:30:43.280 because they're

00:30:44.400 middle of the ocean

00:30:45.400 middle of the ocean is nice

00:30:47.220 but

00:30:47.620 because it has the dip set

00:30:49.480 throwback on it

00:30:50.520 no just because it's nice

00:30:51.960 but that was

00:30:52.740 that was fire

00:30:53.280 yeah that was great

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00:33:06.500 But just don't say out loud.

00:33:07.600 I hate that job.

00:33:08.500 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy and he's going to whisk you away and I'll never see you again.

00:33:13.740 Would you say a D-list actor?

00:33:17.200 D?

00:33:19.180 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.

00:33:21.000 No, no, no.

00:33:21.660 I mean like.

00:33:22.200 I can't even get on the C-list.

00:33:23.100 Like I'm not even average.

00:33:23.980 I'm not even passing.

00:33:24.700 i'm failing listen to no safe words with october and tony gonzalez part of my culture podcast

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00:33:37.280 what are you listening to music mostly like are you listening to music to work out driving

00:33:42.120 chilling hanging around workout driving nightlife nightlife yeah you active on the scene uh i'm not

00:33:52.460 going to say act i don't think i'm active i'm out here and there if you're from the new york area

00:33:57.820 you may or may not bump into me i would i'm never saying that on air i'm a strip club guy everybody

00:34:04.600 knows it i'm a strip club guy oh really yeah what is it sapphire what do you like sapphire is that

00:34:10.120 right no that's what sapphire is in the city yeah what do you like about strip clubs you know what

00:34:15.480 I like the music in strip clubs. 1.00

00:34:18.600 I like the food in strip clubs.

00:34:20.980 I like the conversation in strip clubs.

00:34:23.100 With who, exactly?

00:34:24.520 Anybody.

00:34:25.160 The strippers?

00:34:25.760 Anybody.

00:34:26.220 And the patrons.

00:34:27.500 The patrons.

00:34:28.060 Top 30.

00:34:28.400 The bartenders.

00:34:29.280 For me, when I first got famous, right, because I signed my record deal,

00:34:32.220 I was 20 years old, 21, and I would go to regular clubs.

00:34:36.560 Actually, signing a record deal killed my regular club experience

00:34:39.240 because I would go there and be like, oh, my God, Joe Budden.

00:34:42.140 And they would want to talk, and they'd want to autograph.

00:34:44.440 There's a back when autographs were out.

00:34:46.140 And they'd want pictures.

00:34:47.980 In the strip club, you shouldn't have been looking at the men in there or the famous people.

00:34:54.200 I see.

00:34:54.520 You should be looking at the same thing that I'm looking at.

00:34:57.000 Or if you come over here for a conversation, it should be quick and brief. 1.00

00:35:02.000 But it doesn't bother you that the strippers are talking to you so they can make money from you?

00:35:10.180 No, but you don't know that to be true. 0.98

00:35:14.080 I get strippers that talk to me that I don't tip at all. 0.99

00:35:16.020 Really? 0.92

00:35:16.800 Yeah.

00:35:17.820 Does that make you a cheapskate?

00:35:19.660 Well, no, because I tip.

00:35:22.020 You do?

00:35:22.440 I tip in there, yeah.

00:35:23.440 I've just found myself at strip clubs, like, the few times I've went,

00:35:26.060 where I'm just, like, I ended up just talking to them about, like,

00:35:28.500 their dreams and goals beyond stripping.

00:35:30.720 And at those moments, I realized I don't think this place is for me.

00:35:35.060 Yeah, but that's unfair because you could do that.

00:35:38.040 You could pick a bunch of places and talk to the people that worked there

00:35:40.400 about what their dreams and their goals were,

00:35:42.360 and it's going to be very different than the path mark that they're working at, right? 0.92

00:35:46.940 So I don't put that on just strippers.

00:35:49.320 I think strippers, I think that has a real negative connotation.

00:35:52.960 I really applaud some of those.

00:35:54.440 Well, I'm not going to turn this interview into go-go strippers,

00:35:57.240 but I applaud some of them for being able to get up and go get to it.

00:36:03.420 These are people who are without parents.

00:36:06.640 These are people who have just gone through extreme circumstances.

00:36:11.680 You're making it work.

00:36:12.360 These are people that have been abused.

00:36:14.020 You don't know what people's situation is.

00:36:16.020 So for you to be able to, especially with society right this second,

00:36:20.280 rub two rocks together and get a coin and be able to take it to the bank,

00:36:23.240 I'm not looking down on anybody taking care of themselves.

00:36:25.320 That's a great take.

00:36:27.000 I get that. 0.99

00:36:27.400 You got to respect the ability to make shit happen. 0.98

00:36:31.200 When they start picking up the money with their hands, 1.00

00:36:34.440 like on their hands and knees and stuff, I'm just like, damn. 0.98

00:36:38.080 It's sometimes hard to watch. 0.98

00:36:39.400 How do you feel about drug dealers?

00:36:40.300 how do i feel about drug dealers does the same not apply i've never seen a drug dealer

00:36:48.120 shuffling money off the ground on their hands and knees you haven't been to the right spots man

00:36:52.840 how do i feel about drug dealers uh what's what's the drug

00:36:57.640 so that matters well i think weed in some places while still illegal i feel way less

00:37:05.640 conviction about how I feel about drug dealers.

00:37:09.260 But you didn't do that with the strippers. 0.72

00:37:11.220 In New York, it's illegal to even take your clothes off as a stripper.

00:37:13.720 You didn't ask any follow-up questions when it came to the strippers.

00:37:16.920 So there's a spectrum of strippers. 0.99

00:37:19.220 Nudity?

00:37:20.640 Or semi-clothes?

00:37:22.920 I mean, yeah.

00:37:24.540 I mean, there's more.

00:37:25.720 Like, when I start seeing labia is generally when I get a little uncomfortable.

00:37:30.280 What's the New York law with bottoms?

00:37:33.200 I can't remember.

00:37:34.300 Is there full nude? 0.99

00:37:35.060 You got to have a bottom on.

00:37:35.860 Yeah, so it's tapas only.

00:37:37.440 You can't be topless either in New York.

00:37:39.460 That's really interesting.

00:37:40.900 I thought Cuomo would have changed that.

00:37:43.380 That was a good one.

00:37:45.260 That was –

00:37:46.660 We just had him on, too.

00:37:47.860 He's going to –

00:37:48.200 Really? 0.99

00:37:48.640 Oh, you want to know shit on the guests when he leaves? 1.00

00:37:50.640 Shit. 1.00

00:37:51.280 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:37:53.320 It was – 1.00

00:37:54.560 Yeah, no, it's illegal in New York.

00:37:57.400 So, no.

00:37:57.960 So what?

00:37:58.480 So how does that work?

00:37:59.980 What do you mean how does it work?

00:38:00.800 They always got their tops on?

00:38:02.260 Yeah.

00:38:03.100 It's like the OnlyFans spectrum, it seems.

00:38:06.080 I'm just thinking of the last times I would have.

00:38:08.640 Oh, now you're in my world, buddy.

00:38:10.660 Maybe that's why OnlyFans. 1.00

00:38:12.280 Now we're talking about some shit. 0.99

00:38:14.180 I assume you're for OnlyFans. 1.00

00:38:16.140 Yeah.

00:38:16.480 Yeah.

00:38:17.100 Are you a patron?

00:38:18.020 I'm for the creators.

00:38:19.440 Have you ever bought an OnlyFans?

00:38:21.260 Ever bought?

00:38:22.160 What do you mean bought?

00:38:22.800 Like subscribed or like paid for something on OnlyFans?

00:38:24.920 Oh, yeah.

00:38:25.580 Every other month. 0.97

00:38:27.160 What the hell are you talking about? 0.80

00:38:28.680 Have you ever not? 0.96

00:38:29.980 I have not, no.

00:38:30.920 Oh, come on.

00:38:31.780 No, neither of us have. 1.00

00:38:32.920 Oh, these fucking pretentious fucks. 1.00

00:38:34.800 I swear to God. 1.00

00:38:36.020 Oh, you guys are better.

00:38:37.300 No, no, no, no, no, sorry.

00:38:38.840 No judgment, but wait, who are you buying?

00:38:42.060 Oh, I don't know her name.

00:38:43.440 I don't know their name.

00:38:44.860 I thought that's the whole point of it.

00:38:46.360 No.

00:38:46.840 Aren't you supposed to create like almost like a, they message you?

00:38:49.760 Like a parasocial relationship.

00:38:51.140 Yeah.

00:38:51.540 No. 0.92

00:38:52.160 What the hell are you guys talking about?

00:38:53.660 I need to know, Joe, you got to understand, you're sitting with at least one person who 0.77

00:38:57.420 knows these people intimately on this platform, okay?

00:39:00.160 Like, I don't subscribe to them because I'm with them.

00:39:02.580 So I need to know.

00:39:03.160 I'm not really talking about famous people.

00:39:05.180 I need to know who it is, Joe.

00:39:06.580 You're supporting the up-and-coming creators.

00:39:07.900 I'm not really talking about famous people.

00:39:09.240 Please, you got it.

00:39:09.720 I'm just talking about the attractive woman who, during the pandemic, started an OnlyFans page, 0.96

00:39:17.040 made a shit ton of money, so she kept it going, and she learned how to treat it like a business.

00:39:22.680 Can you show me after the show?

00:39:23.960 Sure.

00:39:24.280 Thank you.

00:39:25.080 I've never been this curious to something before.

00:39:28.700 I'm very interested to see who got your attention.

00:39:31.980 I'm interested as well. 0.94

00:39:32.860 What is she?

00:39:34.240 Any description of her?

00:39:35.460 You're saying she like it's a person.

00:39:38.260 Men?

00:39:38.580 No, I'm just saying many.

00:39:39.740 No, not men.

00:39:40.220 What are you doing? 0.97

00:39:40.800 What the hell? 1.00

00:39:41.420 It's a stupid she. 1.00

00:39:42.720 I don't know. 1.00

00:39:43.980 He's trying to judge again.

00:39:46.520 He's looking to judge. 0.99

00:39:47.520 No, he said woman as in one. 1.00

00:39:49.940 Right. 0.99

00:39:50.240 Like, there's a bunch.

00:39:51.300 Got it.

00:39:52.320 But you do it more to support up-and-coming creators rather than to get your rocks off?

00:39:57.180 Well, I'm in a relationship.

00:39:59.980 I'll be married in a second.

00:40:01.960 You're about to be married?

00:40:03.520 I mean, probably so.

00:40:04.280 Does she know you're buying OnlyFans imagery?

00:40:06.460 Oh, yeah.

00:40:07.240 She doesn't care? 1.00

00:40:07.960 No, she doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

00:40:08.680 Goddamn. 1.00

00:40:09.360 See, I need that. 0.99

00:40:10.100 See, that's cool. 0.99

00:40:10.520 The fuck would she care about that? 0.99

00:40:12.160 That's interesting. 0.99

00:40:13.160 Yeah, she doesn't care about that.

00:40:14.400 But what if one of the OnlyFans creators is like, 0.99

00:40:17.560 holy shit, Joe Budden is buying my ass. 0.99

00:40:20.260 That's not how OnlyFans works, and that's not Joe Budden. 1.00

00:40:22.960 And that is user UF493XZY7.

00:40:28.880 I see, I see, I see.

00:40:30.200 There's no picture.

00:40:31.160 There's no profile.

00:40:32.340 It's not.

00:40:33.100 Do you think at all about this being like a tough sell in this like red pill in cell era where all these dudes are like, why would you support a sex worker? 1.00

00:40:42.660 These girls don't deserve our respect.

00:40:45.220 You know, like you go on Twitter and it's like, you know, like what did you think about like the whole Andrew Tate era?

00:40:50.760 Tell me more.

00:40:52.140 I'm not.

00:40:52.740 all the way familiar with the Andrew Tate era.

00:40:55.220 Like this whole, like, you know, 1.00

00:40:56.620 women belong in the kitchen, 1.00

00:40:58.760 we're conquerors, and... 1.00

00:41:01.660 Yeah.

00:41:02.300 You don't see any of this?

00:41:03.320 You don't even know what I'm talking about?

00:41:05.140 That's not my...

00:41:05.980 Return to conservatism?

00:41:07.160 I do know what you're talking about

00:41:08.920 because I've seen him wrestle 100 guys 0.97

00:41:11.180 or whatever the fuck he had going on, 0.77

00:41:13.480 but that's not really my algorithm. 0.98

00:41:15.780 The red pill incel thing,

00:41:17.640 that's not my universe.

00:41:19.440 What is your algorithm?

00:41:21.640 Well, we were just there. 1.00

00:41:22.740 OnlyFans hoes 1.00

00:41:24.060 where else were we 1.00

00:41:25.280 strip clubs

00:41:27.140 music

00:41:27.900 it's music and business 1.00

00:41:29.700 music and hoes 1.00

00:41:31.240 it's music and business 1.00

00:41:32.480 no Pokemon 1.00

00:41:33.240 and sometimes hoes 1.00

00:41:33.960 no Pokemon cards 1.00

00:41:34.700 no no Pokemon cards

00:41:35.720 can you give me your top

00:41:36.540 three strip clubs

00:41:37.160 in the world

00:41:37.680 really quickly

00:41:38.340 and then we can

00:41:38.740 push on

00:41:39.360 in the world

00:41:41.320 no

00:41:42.040 but

00:41:42.900 are they all New York

00:41:43.860 like is Magic City on there

00:41:45.080 yeah

00:41:45.760 Magic City is cool

00:41:46.680 Atlanta

00:41:47.480 Atlanta period

00:41:48.500 when it comes to strip clubs

00:41:49.800 11

00:41:50.540 Florida

00:41:50.880 Miami

00:41:51.560 11

00:41:52.240 When it comes to strip love, Portland is the strip love capital of the world.

00:41:55.000 I mean, of America.

00:41:56.640 So, yeah.

00:41:57.980 Do you think four years was not enough for Diddy?

00:42:02.780 Four years was not.

00:42:04.500 I don't feel like that.

00:42:05.860 I don't feel like it.

00:42:06.400 Do you think that's a fair sentence for Diddy?

00:42:09.960 It seemed fair.

00:42:10.840 Really? 0.92

00:42:11.560 I feel like a lot of people were like, damn, only four years? 0.96

00:42:13.780 That much baby oil and only four years? 1.00

00:42:16.260 Well, because I think we wanted to charge him for the shit that we have seen. 0.99

00:42:21.480 And that's not what he was in court for. 0.99

00:42:23.120 He was in court for prostitution at the end of the day.

00:42:25.740 Yeah, you can only be convicted of what you're charged for.

00:42:28.640 So they took it, it seemed like where it was going to go for the charge.

00:42:33.660 I think a lot of people want to see some sort of penalty for a video of him 0.99

00:42:38.820 beating the shit out of Cassie. 0.99

00:42:40.800 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:42:41.460 Which makes fucking sense. 0.98

00:42:44.980 I think some of that time he got was because the judge saw that video. 0.98

00:42:49.000 And yeah, you're not just getting away, Scott Free.

00:42:50.680 I'm not just letting you out.

00:42:52.180 But he's passed statute of limitations on that?

00:42:54.160 Or how does that work with an assault?

00:42:55.720 We've got to ask an attorney.

00:42:57.120 I don't know.

00:42:58.880 What about Tory Lanez?

00:43:00.180 What about him?

00:43:01.300 He's in jail for shooting Megan the Stallion in the foot, allegedly.

00:43:06.360 That whole thing seemed like messy.

00:43:12.560 No?

00:43:13.040 I agree.

00:43:13.520 A lot of different rumors, new information that's come out.

00:43:16.660 He tried to appeal.

00:43:18.100 They denied his appeal.

00:43:19.320 He's just in jail.

00:43:19.660 Are you free Tory?

00:43:20.580 Team Free Tory.

00:43:22.000 I mean, I'm not necessarily Free Tory.

00:43:24.580 He's in there.

00:43:24.940 You played a huge role.

00:43:26.080 Whatever happened to him, you played a huge role in it.

00:43:28.160 He got stabbed.

00:43:30.220 Didn't he get stabbed 10 times?

00:43:31.900 Logan, I don't know.

00:43:34.660 I don't know.

00:43:35.460 You don't know?

00:43:36.000 I'm not speaking to these people.

00:43:38.120 I don't really believe everything that is reported.

00:43:41.740 Did Jeffrey Epstein hang?

00:43:42.360 I'm one of those guys.

00:43:43.640 Yeah.

00:43:44.180 Did Jeffrey Epstein hang himself?

00:43:45.420 oh you're asking me for real yeah yeah oh we're in conspiracy theory land for real yeah 0.98

00:43:54.400 something happened to jeffrey epstein yo there's like a missing part of the fucking tape bro yeah 0.91

00:43:59.880 two minutes gone that's like the perfect amount of time to gone from the metadata 0.94

00:44:05.280 seems kind of weird huh because yo i'm i'm like team like i don't want to hear your conspiracy

00:44:10.400 theories but then every once in a while like some i figured that could you keep trying to get me into

00:44:14.460 these conspiracy theories.

00:44:15.400 No, I don't.

00:44:15.980 Just asking.

00:44:16.860 Just asking.

00:44:18.040 No, not me.

00:44:18.640 I'm following.

00:44:19.260 I'm following.

00:44:19.860 I'm with it.

00:44:20.840 And they're good ones, right?

00:44:22.460 You got any conspiracy theories you like?

00:44:25.080 Or believe in?

00:44:31.800 I'm sure there's some that I believe in.

00:44:33.920 Illuminati?

00:44:35.200 Oh, that's obvious.

00:44:35.820 Is that a conspiracy theory?

00:44:36.440 That's not a conspiracy theory.

00:44:37.060 That's real.

00:44:37.840 Is it real?

00:44:38.440 Yeah.

00:44:38.920 Yeah, I didn't think that was a conspiracy theory.

00:44:40.660 the only reason why i don't think the illuminati maybe is real is because like i definitely

00:44:46.880 haven't gotten the invite you actually have gotten the invite when where were you at dinner

00:44:52.700 last night that wasn't very illuminati dude the idea i was i was looking where were you though

00:44:59.220 at dinner i'll be the judge of this central park tower 100th floor expensive real estate dog

00:45:08.080 Okay, what time were you there?

00:45:10.240 From 6 to 10.

00:45:13.160 Okay.

00:45:14.040 Dinner at 6 p.m. seems a little odd.

00:45:16.080 It was a little early for me.

00:45:17.240 That's early, bro.

00:45:18.380 Dude, I was fully expecting someone in a hood to come up to me and be like, hey.

00:45:21.640 You're in.

00:45:22.760 It sounds a little Illuminati-ish.

00:45:24.620 Dude, a lot of things I do I think could definitely be perceived as maybe a little Illuminati-ish.

00:45:31.500 You might be entry-level Illuminati.

00:45:33.640 You might be there.

00:45:34.540 That's what I'm saying, but I have not.

00:45:36.180 Like they're scoping them out.

00:45:36.840 Yeah, trial period for you.

00:45:39.580 They're watching.

00:45:40.340 Dude, I've said if I ever get approached for real, like, I'm going to come on the podcast and say, like, hey, it happened.

00:45:48.240 I got approached.

00:45:48.960 Would you still pod?

00:45:51.060 I feel like if I do get approached by the Illuminati, I'd be in a position where I wouldn't have to podcast anymore.

00:45:56.820 What do you mean have to?

00:45:57.960 What do you mean have to?

00:45:59.080 Well, that's why I said would you.

00:46:00.560 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:00.720 What do you mean have to podcast?

00:46:02.000 What does that mean?

00:46:03.660 You don't have to podcast.

00:46:04.800 Yeah, I get to pod.

00:46:05.520 I get to podcast.

00:46:06.360 Thank you.

00:46:06.840 I get to podcast.

00:46:07.340 Thank you. 1.00

00:46:07.860 This is a fucking gift to be able to sit down with some of the most gifted fucking minds. 1.00

00:46:12.280 I mean, bro, I'm just saying, I've been doing this shit for seven years at this point, come 1.00

00:46:16.200 out in seven years. 0.99

00:46:17.020 Like, I do it because I love it.

00:46:19.900 I feel like that would be a rule of the Illuminati.

00:46:22.760 Two.

00:46:23.340 No, no podcaster.

00:46:24.580 You can't.

00:46:25.340 Sorry.

00:46:25.900 Hang up the mic.

00:46:26.920 You're done.

00:46:27.700 You're saying too much.

00:46:28.600 Yeah, you're done.

00:46:29.660 Yeah.

00:46:30.060 What's your definition of Illuminati?

00:46:32.380 You.

00:46:32.960 Me?

00:46:33.140 Yeah.

00:46:33.960 I heard it last night.

00:46:35.300 I heard it last night.

00:46:36.060 oh okay someone gave me the definition we were talking about it i got approached by it when i

00:46:41.240 had my right hand and they were all holding their fingers over their eyes like this looking at me

00:46:46.800 pandas two two things the pillars of power and control and secrecy and secrecy i'm not in i'm

00:46:55.500 not in so are you arguing any of those tenants do the secrecy do you not okay do you not think

00:47:01.480 that a group of hyper-wealthy individuals plan and make the rules

00:47:06.100 for the rest of the inhabitants of this planet?

00:47:08.920 I don't know.

00:47:10.280 Come on.

00:47:11.020 He's in.

00:47:11.540 Come on.

00:47:12.420 Bro, you know that that's the truth.

00:47:14.220 They set all the – they – 1.00

00:47:16.220 Holy shit. 1.00

00:47:19.440 You're a fucking – 1.00

00:47:20.440 You're an Italian overlord, aren't you, dog? 1.00

00:47:22.760 The Illuminati hates me, bro. 0.99

00:47:25.900 I don't think they're going to invite me, guys.

00:47:28.060 The more I think about it, you're perfect.

00:47:30.060 Really?

00:47:30.800 I would definitely send you the invite.

00:47:33.720 That means a lot.

00:47:34.840 Thank you. 0.99

00:47:35.680 The whole shit, bro. 1.00

00:47:36.820 He's got the whole thing going. 1.00

00:47:38.440 Yeah, so I don't feel like that's so much a conspiracy theory.

00:47:40.880 Okay, okay.

00:47:41.720 What do we think happened to JFK?

00:47:45.580 I thought, dude, I thought when Trump got in that all that stuff was supposed to be aired out.

00:47:50.640 I did, too.

00:47:51.360 He definitely said that.

00:47:53.440 Wasn't that one of the things he ran on?

00:47:55.000 Like, we're going to know what happened with JFK, Epstein, Martin Luther King.

00:47:58.560 Yeah, he did say that. 0.99

00:47:58.960 Like, all that shit was just going to be... 0.99

00:48:00.220 And UFOs? 1.00

00:48:01.620 He did say all that. 0.99

00:48:02.680 And we don't know shit. 0.99

00:48:03.500 I think we know less. 1.00

00:48:04.740 I have a really stupid, stupid question for you guys. 1.00

00:48:06.300 Please don't judge me. 1.00

00:48:07.580 Did y'all believe anything that he was saying when he was running?

00:48:11.980 I definitely did.

00:48:13.180 He's just such a good...

00:48:14.180 He's just so good at selling.

00:48:15.600 Dude, I don't...

00:48:16.560 Dude, I don't know.

00:48:17.740 I thought he was...

00:48:18.300 I thought for sure disclosure was coming.

00:48:20.180 Do you guys know him too?

00:48:20.880 Is he Donnie?

00:48:22.360 He's Uncle Don.

00:48:23.080 Ironically, he kind of is.

00:48:24.100 He's been on the show.

00:48:25.060 He's been on the show.

00:48:26.140 These guys.

00:48:27.240 Jesus.

00:48:27.600 nah nah nah

00:48:29.340 well hold on he's done

00:48:30.980 he's done some stuff

00:48:32.980 right like he

00:48:34.640 we've got a ceasefire with

00:48:37.020 in Gaza correct

00:48:38.780 who wants to list off some accolades right now

00:48:41.100 maybe I'm not the best at this I don't care

00:48:43.020 yeah I don't care

00:48:44.840 but what stuff though

00:48:46.460 is there anything that really

00:48:47.820 crypto it's down dog

00:48:50.100 it's under where it was

00:48:51.420 yeah but it was up

00:48:52.220 that can't be the metric of success

00:48:55.840 is that it went well for a while

00:48:57.560 That's the other conspiracy theory, is that he's Satoshi.

00:49:01.880 That would be insane.

00:49:04.520 Dude, you know Satoshi Nakamoto is one of the wealthiest people on the planet,

00:49:10.400 worth like $116 billion.

00:49:12.360 And no one knows who he is.

00:49:13.480 That's insane.

00:49:14.320 And the money is in a wall that you can just see.

00:49:16.900 Do you think it's any chance? 1.00

00:49:17.840 Do you think Americans, are we just stupid enough to just hear that? 1.00

00:49:21.000 Yes. 1.00

00:49:21.700 Just stop there.

00:49:23.360 The answer is yes.

00:49:24.600 Okay, okay, good.

00:49:25.820 The answer is yes.

00:49:26.500 For sure.

00:49:27.120 All right, so I'm with you guys.

00:49:27.900 If any rapper could be Satoshi Nakamoto, would it be Jay-Z? 0.98

00:49:33.780 It would be fucking Chameleon Air. 0.98

00:49:39.300 I did not expect that, dude. 0.99

00:49:41.920 Holy C, Riding Dirty, that Chameleon Air?

00:49:44.840 Yeah, right?

00:49:45.920 Yeah.

00:49:46.220 Wow, dude.

00:49:46.820 It would be somebody that you just.

00:49:48.960 Paul Wall.

00:49:49.720 Waka Waka?

00:49:50.280 Yeah, total left field, not the most famous, most known.

00:49:57.220 Yeah.

00:49:57.820 Has there been a rapper that's shocked you with how intelligent they actually were?

00:50:01.800 It actually is the opposite. 1.00

00:50:03.040 It shocks me when rappers are really, really stupid. 1.00

00:50:05.720 Really? 1.00

00:50:06.100 What's that one clip? 1.00

00:50:06.760 It shocks me when rappers are really, really, really, really dumb. 1.00

00:50:09.180 Yeah. 0.99

00:50:09.580 Did you ever see that clip where they asked one of, it wasn't Kevin Gates, was it where

00:50:12.680 they asked him, like, why he didn't go to college?

00:50:15.180 And he was like, they offered me, like, $5-10 million to be in the band.

00:50:19.760 He's like, hold up.

00:50:21.500 They tried to pay you $10 million to be in the band.

00:50:24.460 He was like, yeah, $10-15 million.

00:50:25.780 Do you know what I'm talking about?

00:50:26.800 Yeah.

00:50:27.380 Who was that?

00:50:28.360 I don't know.

00:50:30.140 But I remember the clip.

00:50:30.980 It's a great film.

00:50:31.520 I remember the clip.

00:50:32.180 It's very funny, dude.

00:50:33.100 Kevin Gates is hilarious.

00:50:34.640 He's hilarious.

00:50:35.160 He's a lot, dude.

00:50:36.860 Have y'all had him?

00:50:37.700 Nah.

00:50:38.660 We probably should.

00:50:39.720 We definitely should.

00:50:40.740 He's an interviewer.

00:50:41.780 I've never had him either.

00:50:42.640 Add that to the, add that, really?

00:50:43.920 Yeah, I've never had him.

00:50:44.780 He does shows, though, yeah?

00:50:46.360 Yeah, right?

00:50:46.960 I've seen him on a bunch of shows.

00:50:48.440 And he does pretty good on them.

00:50:49.660 I just haven't interviewed him.

00:50:52.360 For whatever the reason is.

00:50:53.380 How are you liking pot?

00:50:55.100 Are you getting sick of it at all?

00:50:58.240 No.

00:50:59.180 You know, somebody came up to me last night in a strip club.

00:51:01.520 I'm on my way out.

00:51:03.540 This Lord.

00:51:04.560 Tall gentleman.

00:51:06.640 Slender man?

00:51:07.160 And he said, hey, man, can I ask you for some advice?

00:51:10.180 I said, sure, man.

00:51:11.440 Go ahead.

00:51:12.960 And he's like, what makes you go?

00:51:15.300 Like, when you're feeling down. 0.99

00:51:16.980 You know, as a creative, you self-doubt all types of shit. 0.98

00:51:19.520 He said, when you're feeling down, when you're just not in the mood, 0.98

00:51:22.080 when you've got things going on, when you're not into it,

00:51:24.220 How do you find the strength to get out of bed and go do it?

00:51:30.060 And I looked at it. 1.00

00:51:32.280 I love this shit, man. 1.00

00:51:33.940 I absolutely love this shit. 1.00

00:51:36.880 Like, I could do this shit forever. 1.00

00:51:40.280 I could get up. 1.00

00:51:41.100 This is my vacation.

00:51:43.480 This is, it doesn't feel like work at all.

00:51:47.080 I love it.

00:51:48.700 So important.

00:51:50.020 Yeah.

00:51:50.460 So important.

00:51:51.220 Yeah, to love what you do.

00:51:52.540 It's great advice.

00:51:53.200 I wouldn't be able to do it if it didn't feel that way.

00:51:55.200 Yeah.

00:51:55.880 I couldn't.

00:51:56.820 Yeah, what do they say if you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life?

00:52:00.680 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:01.440 When people ask me—

00:52:02.200 It sounds cliche, but—

00:52:03.120 It's super cliche. 0.99

00:52:03.820 Bro, a lot of cliche shit actually has a lot of truth to it. 1.00

00:52:06.720 It's true, but when you're broke, you don't want to hear that shit. 1.00

00:52:08.420 Yeah, if I— 0.99

00:52:09.120 When you're broke, you don't want to hear none of that.

00:52:11.140 When people ask me for advice, this happens every now and then.

00:52:14.300 They'll be like, you know, Logan, what's one piece of advice you could give me?

00:52:17.840 And my first question back is, what do you like to do?

00:52:21.440 It always starts with that.

00:52:22.440 Because I think people are innately drawn to things.

00:52:27.080 And I think by pursuing those things, if you really like it to the point of like you love it, you would die for it.

00:52:33.960 You do it even if it wasn't about making money.

00:52:36.340 Granted, you do have to make money.

00:52:38.200 So you got to figure out a way to balance it until you can make the thing you love to do your work.

00:52:42.740 You can get crafty these days.

00:52:44.560 You can get crafty, especially with social media. 1.00

00:52:46.940 There's an outlet for a lot of random shit. 0.99

00:52:49.200 But you got to be good. 0.99

00:52:50.040 You got to be somewhat good, though.

00:52:50.920 I see this guy on TikTok, okay? 1.00

00:52:53.600 See this shit? 0.99

00:52:54.380 I love when stories start like this. 1.00

00:52:56.120 Do you see this shit, dog? 1.00

00:52:56.820 Dude, there's an account on TikTok. 1.00

00:52:58.900 This is crazy.

00:52:59.860 There's an account on TikTok of this guy in India fixing kitchen appliances at a rapid pace.

00:53:07.660 So fast, this guy will fix any kitchen appliance.

00:53:11.480 He's got all the tools behind him.

00:53:13.320 How many viewers?

00:53:13.940 Yeah, I think that's fire.

00:53:14.980 Tens of millions of views, dog.

00:53:16.640 Oh, oh, oh.

00:53:17.560 These are videos, not live.

00:53:19.720 No, they're videos.

00:53:20.480 They're videos.

00:53:21.040 Yes, dude.

00:53:22.020 It's so entertaining.

00:53:24.260 You can hand him any broken kitchen appliance.

00:53:27.180 And in two minutes, he'll fix it up because he's got all the mats behind him.

00:53:30.580 It's insane. 0.99

00:53:32.400 Shit like that I see and go, you can really do anything. 1.00

00:53:35.760 Buddy, the shit that I've learned that I'm a fan of, 1.00

00:53:38.680 the shit I find myself watching on the internet. 1.00

00:53:41.540 Oh, we already know some of it. 1.00

00:53:42.860 You told us earlier.

00:53:44.280 Yeah, but outside of that, there's a guy on the internet

00:53:47.960 who has a cow and he goes in his kitchen the cow yeah i'm like hey is the floor covered for this

00:54:04.240 cow where was the cow like yes oh my god like but i would have never said he pushes he pushes

00:54:09.960 He pushes the cow, but he's mushing the cow.

00:54:11.800 But it's a cow who just pushes it back.

00:54:14.340 But it's a big cow. 0.96

00:54:14.680 It's a big-ass cow, dude. 1.00

00:54:16.200 Where the fuck did the cow come from? 1.00

00:54:18.620 And why am I watching this? 0.99

00:54:20.540 But it's super entertaining.

00:54:22.040 So good.

00:54:22.260 There's another girl on TikTok who is chronicling her struggle with having Tourette's.

00:54:29.640 Oh, yeah.

00:54:30.120 Yes.

00:54:30.540 They call it TikTok.

00:54:32.080 TikTok Tourette's. 0.98

00:54:32.780 Because she has a TikTok.

00:54:33.480 Yes.

00:54:35.180 I loved it.

00:54:37.460 I see what he did.

00:54:38.640 No, it's what they did.

00:54:40.740 And God bless her. 1.00

00:54:41.460 I hope her channel blows up because of this clip.

00:54:43.340 Well, anyway, to your point, I'm shocked at the things that I find entertaining on the internet.

00:54:47.060 That was it.

00:54:47.640 No, this is the good side of the internet.

00:54:50.500 What we're talking about right now makes me happy.

00:54:53.080 Like, I really just, I like being entertained.

00:54:55.640 And so if I can go online and see, like, goofy videos that I end up getting, you know, sucked down into a rabbit hole of, I don't know, I don't even know what I'm watching.

00:55:02.240 Some guy fixed kitchen appliances.

00:55:03.980 That makes me happy.

00:55:05.400 There's live videos where you can send hearts, like on TikTok Live.

00:55:09.860 You know, you could like send flowers.

00:55:11.360 This part makes me sad.

00:55:12.300 And every time you send one, a knife will jab into a bag of fish food that's hanging over a school of hungry fish.

00:55:21.560 And a little bit of fish food falls out at a time and the fish all go for it. 0.82

00:55:24.780 But if you drop enough pennies, it stabs the shit out of the bag and more comes out and then it's like a feeding frenzy.

00:55:30.880 so me i'll just drop like two three bucks in there and just watch all this fish food fall and all the 0.89

00:55:36.400 fish are just swimming around eating it and i'm just like yo this is real content they got another

00:55:41.100 one where there's spark plugs so every time you drop a little heart or a balloon or bouquet of

00:55:48.100 flowers the spark plug goes and there's a rotisserie firework spinning around and so what i'm trying to

00:55:55.660 do as the viewer is time my donation for that spark to light that firework off bro and guess

00:56:01.840 what i've spent hundreds of dollars trying to light that firework off never one time has it

00:56:07.100 actually lit the fuse it just gets real close that's hilarious just saying there's a lot of 0.97

00:56:13.900 ways to make money out there you don't have to sell opiates or ass yeah or ass dude there's a 0.95

00:56:22.460 lot of ways to make money you seem pretty tapped into digital social media even though you know 0.96

00:56:28.420 you don't watch certain stuff you do watch other stuff um you you you familiar with the streamers

00:56:33.800 the streamers of of these days i'm getting familiar yeah like the kai sanat's the speed

00:56:38.820 aiden what was that yeah what was that i mean i'm not all the way familiar yeah but yeah

00:56:49.660 What do you think of the streaming?

00:56:52.100 I like it.

00:56:52.860 Yeah.

00:56:53.600 I like it.

00:56:54.460 What's not to like about it?

00:56:56.140 Kids having a good time, cutting the camera on, having a blast.

00:56:59.680 Yeah.

00:57:00.100 What do you think about that?

00:57:00.880 And it's become really, really played a really pivotal role in how we hear from artists today, too.

00:57:06.420 I like seeing artists stop by these streamers.

00:57:09.240 I like seeing the streamers at the award shows, at the NBA All-Star Weekend.

00:57:13.740 Yeah.

00:57:14.280 I mean, the truth of the matter is the numbers that they generate.

00:57:17.900 Insane.

00:57:18.560 Yeah, come on.

00:57:19.640 Do you feel confident about potentially the sentiment

00:57:24.480 and the opinion of the culture being represented

00:57:26.880 by the Torchbearers at this current moment?

00:57:31.680 Who would be the Torchbearers?

00:57:33.360 Well, I mean, you had some words for Kai in 2024,

00:57:36.580 and I think 8-2 on this.

00:57:39.320 Travis Scott deserved the Grammy over Killer Mike,

00:57:41.620 and you said, y'all streaming, I can't say the word, 0.99

00:57:45.480 don't always run shit. 0.99

00:57:46.560 Do you think that maybe they've gotten a little bit too big for their britches 0.99

00:57:51.540 in how much their opinion matters to the culture?

00:57:54.940 No, I can't. I can't say that.

00:57:56.440 I'm not trying to even get you to say it. I'm just asking.

00:57:58.500 I wouldn't feel comfortable saying that.

00:58:00.700 No, I used to do it.

00:58:03.060 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:03.780 It just wasn't called streaming, and there wasn't this big market.

00:58:07.060 I used to cut a camera on and want to connect to the fans and read the messages

00:58:11.160 and just watch them watch me do anything,

00:58:14.360 whether it be making a song or making breakfast.

00:58:15.920 Like, they're there.

00:58:17.120 It takes a lot of work to develop that and get those audiences as big as what they have today.

00:58:23.380 So congrats to these guys.

00:58:25.660 I think it's awesome.

00:58:26.460 They should continue to do it.

00:58:27.480 They're making a shit ton of money.

00:58:28.520 I'm super happy for them.

00:58:30.260 All of them.

00:58:30.900 I'm happy every time I see Speed do a backflip somewhere.

00:58:34.800 Hey, look who he's flipping around Denzel now.

00:58:38.160 Awesome.

00:58:40.620 He can really flip that guy.

00:58:42.500 Well, he's an athlete.

00:58:44.920 He's an athlete.

00:58:45.920 I don't doubt him.

00:58:47.800 He's flipping.

00:58:48.680 He's fast.

00:58:49.360 He's racing people.

00:58:50.980 Up for the challenge.

00:58:52.240 Not running from nothing.

00:58:53.040 Shout out to those guys.

00:58:54.280 We're talking about the podcast and what makes you go before and what gets you excited.

00:58:58.100 For me, one of my favorite things to do is come here and sit down with my homie right here,

00:59:04.020 a very good friend of mine, best friend, for 10 years now and do these shows.

00:59:09.040 And I do want to ask you about Rory and Mal, a little bit at least.

00:59:12.860 and for me at least that was like a marriage breakup i think maybe not as talked about as

00:59:20.240 like alex and sophia from call her daddy but close maybe maybe more so in certain circles

00:59:24.900 have you have you guys have you guys had any like contact or you know do you feel like there's a lot

00:59:32.820 of bad blood there like where you're at i'm bad blood no i don't i'm not walking around harvard

00:59:37.500 bad blood for people i wish those guys the best i think everything turned out the way it was 0.99

00:59:42.220 supposed to turn out they got their own shit i got my own shit everybody's happy everybody's 0.95

00:59:46.980 well fed with a roof over their head i don't have any malice towards those guys do you wish that 0.99

00:59:51.600 things had gone differently no no was there was there any accuracy in any of the statements that

01:00:00.940 they made like after the fact kind of like looking back at like lack of transparency or like so on

01:00:06.980 and so forth um listen in hindsight i'm sure there were some areas i could have done better

01:00:13.100 right but hindsight is 2020 learning in real time managing personalities running businesses 0.93

01:00:21.580 dealing with like shit happens shit happens i don't have any regrets about it again i hope

01:00:27.560 those guys are doing great especially rory uh that's what i got on that we have a famous moment 0.97

01:00:34.480 Well, it's not really anymore because we've had a bunch of great moments.

01:00:37.640 But we had a moment where we got in a huge fight on the show,

01:00:39.820 and it was about creative direction or something like that.

01:00:43.820 And he had this huge, like, look at the name on the wall.

01:00:46.940 He turned around and he said it.

01:00:48.100 And for a year, it was a big moment.

01:00:52.080 It's really hard to—

01:00:54.420 And that was a real moment?

01:00:56.260 Yeah, we were dead serious.

01:00:57.880 It was a very long time ago.

01:00:59.300 May I ask what came before the look at the name on the wall?

01:01:05.540 Like, why was that relevant?

01:01:07.280 Because we, at the time, we were still learning how to do this thing.

01:01:16.220 And this thing, even though people who watch it, you'll understand this,

01:01:22.140 even though people who watch it think it's very simple, is a complex thing.

01:01:27.900 It involves a lot of give and take, back and forth, you go, I go, knowledge on certain topics.

01:01:37.920 I'm stronger with this guest.

01:01:39.320 You're stronger with this guest.

01:01:40.400 I have a topic that's very important to me today, but you also have a topic that's very important to you.

01:01:45.720 It's a bit of an art form.

01:01:47.400 I'm not going to over-qualify it.

01:01:50.060 But I'm sure you would agree with that, right?

01:01:51.180 Totally understand what you're saying.

01:01:52.080 In the beginning, we still were very uncertain where the lines were going to be in terms of when there's something that he wants to talk about or I want to talk about where that line's going to be drawn and how it's going to be drawn and how much time is too much time.

01:02:05.820 And he had to learn to trust me in the content world.

01:02:07.680 I was new.

01:02:09.160 He was already established.

01:02:10.980 We started the show together, but I was new to it.

01:02:13.060 So I was stepping on toes.

01:02:14.200 I was interrupting.

01:02:15.140 I was taking topics off track. 1.00

01:02:18.180 All the rookie shit. 1.00

01:02:19.360 Some real rookie shit, 100%. 1.00

01:02:22.080 it was a moment where i had to have like come to jesus where i said okay i'm either going to 0.99

01:02:27.720 fight the person go toe to toe and and jab back at a person who's trying to help me make something

01:02:34.840 in my life and and and partner with me to make something great or i'm gonna take it as direction

01:02:41.340 and even though maybe it didn't come across perfectly at the time i'm gonna i'm gonna

01:02:44.540 understand it as he would say and did say for years take the note take the note and so it's

01:02:50.920 interesting i love i love this this topic this is this is this is great we're very what you're

01:02:56.320 saying is really important yeah we're we're very blessed to have gone through the the downs and

01:03:01.860 survived them because we were kind of like looking at the landscape recently and realized there's not 0.76

01:03:07.120 there's doing this shit as a group a duo a trio like what is is is is tough for an extended period 0.79

01:03:14.060 of time like seems like a lot of them don't work out dude and we're pushing like seven years 0.97

01:03:19.480 right now probably like this week yeah no and it's been good for the past like

01:03:24.380 three or four yeah but even in listening to y'all right or listening to the story

01:03:29.600 for me no matter how he felt in the moment it's important sometimes to say hey look whose name

01:03:37.880 is on the wall yep it's important to be able to say that without the person that you care for and

01:03:43.260 love taking offense or thinking that you're on an ego trip right well it definitely was like dude i

01:03:48.820 i have a i have a big ego i try to like use it to as like a weapon when the time is right

01:03:54.840 and i've i've gotten humbled a lot so it's like i know i i try to think i know when to

01:03:59.060 like let it overrule and like take charge um but he's also gotten a lot better and while i

01:04:08.380 said that at that time that's how i felt like i still very much felt like this was my show

01:04:13.560 he's a great co-host at the time and like i had a vision for it since then he's evolved

01:04:19.760 tremendously in a great way as a creator and so i have much more trust in his ability and like i

01:04:26.300 would never say that today because like although yes the show has my last name in it and it's

01:04:30.240 called impulsive this very much feels like our show it it has taken shape as the show that mike

01:04:38.360 and logan do like it's i don't really have an interest in doing the show without mike

01:04:44.060 same you know i gotta i wouldn't do it without mike well that's the dope part that comes after

01:04:49.440 the hey look whose name is on the wall like like mike said hey you have to trust me at some point

01:04:56.200 yeah yeah there's gonna be some rookie mistakes yeah i'm learning but if you see a vision which

01:05:00.920 clearly you do and have established it then yeah allow me to go through it that reminds me of when

01:05:08.220 i worked at a hot 97 and i just had no clue of how to do anything broadcast and ebro was there

01:05:15.320 and i'm sure he felt like he was babysitting me hey you can't sleep underneath the counter during

01:05:20.480 the break hey you have to do an intro coming out of it i'm sure he i was going driving him insane

01:05:26.280 but that process is really really really important yeah so i'm just it's dope it's dope that y'all

01:05:31.860 came out of that feeling how you both felt yeah definitely and i think and i think like kind of

01:05:36.540 sign it up i think like it's a result of two people who took growth seriously um because like

01:05:45.000 i'm not i'm not gonna sit here and even pretend for a second it was because i was able to like

01:05:49.720 calm down de-escalate not fire back stay in the cut and and play a role until it was time for us

01:05:56.300 both to blossom together because he was learning the whole time too i think some of the messier

01:06:01.380 episodes end up being very good teachers and there's learnings that come out of it so we're

01:06:06.140 trying to make it work but i agree and and i just want to big you up mike clearly wanted to get

01:06:12.680 better in broadcasting right what's happening in podcasting again back to our the musicians

01:06:19.460 aren't musicians uh conversation earlier people don't really give a fuck about podcasting or

01:06:25.640 wanting to be a better broadcaster or how they're coming off to the audience they're seeing something 0.51

01:06:30.120 people are monetizing they're seeing that people are living good from this and now we're going to 0.85

01:06:34.500 fucking bnh to get a mic and see how it goes and clips we want clips yeah it's not that people 0.76

01:06:40.440 really care about the art of it but there really is it really is art 100 yeah you've been doing 0.99

01:06:47.800 this shit forever too you were one of like the first spotify deals no yeah me and uh me and amy 0.61

01:06:52.440 which is crazy when did you start when did you start the my podcast my podcast started in 2015 0.97

01:06:59.920 February 2015

01:07:01.940 but before that I was

01:07:03.880 I was grooming myself to be

01:07:06.160 a broadcaster

01:07:07.520 right like when I did Hot 97 in

01:07:09.880 2004 I was a rapper still

01:07:11.800 I figured that

01:07:14.140 after rap I would be

01:07:15.980 broadcasting I just thought that it would be on

01:07:17.820 New York City radio

01:07:18.900 and then in 2014

01:07:21.880 2015 when my rap career

01:07:23.520 when I'm hanging it up

01:07:24.740 yeah well in 2010 actually

01:07:27.680 when the laptops first came out I was just hitting 0.96

01:07:29.780 record when you could first publish to fucking whatever it was on Apple. 0.90

01:07:35.440 I don't remember now. 0.97

01:07:36.280 But I was just recording and talking for an hour.

01:07:39.380 It was GarageBand.

01:07:40.340 It was all of that.

01:07:41.200 And just uploading. 1.00

01:07:42.460 It was just called my fucking show. 0.99

01:07:43.900 It was like you and Rogan. 0.99

01:07:44.960 It was just me.

01:07:46.400 Well, I wasn't familiar.

01:07:47.780 But at the time, I was just talking and uploading.

01:07:50.680 I didn't care who heard it.

01:07:52.380 But those are the practice hours.

01:07:56.300 Those are the formative years.

01:08:01.440 Isn't that crazy that you don't really know where the skills you're picking up now?

01:08:07.200 When they'll come into effect.

01:08:09.940 I feel like my whole rap career was to groom me for my podcasting career.

01:08:13.880 And I would have never, telling my younger self that, I would have fought that person.

01:08:18.380 Yeah.

01:08:18.980 Yeah.

01:08:19.280 You made more off your Spotify deal than you did your whole rap career.

01:08:24.240 That would be tough to say.

01:08:25.420 I don't think I made a whole lot in the spot if I did.

01:08:28.320 It was a lot at the time, but my rap career was 15 years. 0.99

01:08:30.740 Yeah, fuck it. 1.00

01:08:31.100 I'll say it. 1.00

01:08:31.940 Yeah, fuck it. 1.00

01:08:32.500 Yeah? 1.00

01:08:32.800 Yeah, I probably did. 1.00

01:08:34.080 Damn. 1.00

01:08:34.560 I probably did. 0.99

01:08:35.660 Do you ever?

01:08:36.480 But I wasn't rapping to make all the money in the world.

01:08:39.700 I was rapping to live and survive and to find joy and inner peace 0.99

01:08:44.220 and all of this bullshit. 0.99

01:08:46.020 See, that's one thing through all these beefs, 1.00

01:08:49.000 through the shit with 50 and Drake and, man, all the beefs throughout the years 0.95

01:08:55.540 is that you've always had a community of people that are willing to come in 0.99

01:08:58.000 and be like, listen, you want to come for Joe on his opinions

01:09:00.480 or on X, Y, and Z or whatever, do it, but don't go after his lyricism.

01:09:05.460 Oh, yeah.

01:09:06.280 And that's cool to see, bro, because even people who are really

01:09:10.700 on the other side of the fence on some of those beefs,

01:09:12.860 they'll still back up your mic skills, which has got to be awesome to hear and feel.

01:09:17.780 It is.

01:09:18.140 It's humbling.

01:09:18.600 I appreciate it.

01:09:19.400 Yeah.

01:09:20.400 Do you ever look at some of these big podcast deals that are being cut?

01:09:25.380 Actually, not so much now, but like.

01:09:27.560 But when it was happening?

01:09:28.480 Yeah.

01:09:28.920 When it was really, really happening?

01:09:30.660 Big deals. 1.00

01:09:31.560 And you're like, oh, fuck, I was first. 1.00

01:09:34.620 I've been doing this shit longer than them. 1.00

01:09:36.160 Why are they getting the deals? 1.00

01:09:37.360 No, no.

01:09:38.040 You can't think like that.

01:09:39.400 That's negative.

01:09:40.860 That would eat you up inside.

01:09:42.440 Yeah.

01:09:42.720 And I was on Spotify when—I was on Spotify, right, for the early part of—it was Spotify that came and was giving out big checks and was giving out the big deals.

01:09:52.320 Yeah.

01:09:52.660 So I was there.

01:09:53.500 I saw how it was unraveling.

01:09:55.540 I was number one for however many years.

01:09:58.700 I was there when a relationship's out.

01:10:00.400 I saw when they would have to bring in a pretty big fish to replace me, and that they did.

01:10:07.160 Rogan?

01:10:07.600 They brought in Rogan right after me. 1.00

01:10:10.280 Damn. 0.99

01:10:11.100 Yeah, Rogan. 1.00

01:10:11.820 100 mil.

01:10:12.720 and then Alex right after

01:10:14.860 60 mil

01:10:15.720 Cooper

01:10:16.880 yeah

01:10:17.840 you're right after

01:10:18.700 it's a lot of money

01:10:20.260 and there was some more

01:10:21.060 there was some more people

01:10:21.960 Joe got

01:10:22.740 Joe got two

01:10:23.480 didn't he

01:10:24.240 I think it got renewed

01:10:25.780 I think

01:10:26.720 I don't know

01:10:27.200 but you

01:10:27.800 but you will have

01:10:28.820 have you had any purchases

01:10:29.980 on the network yet

01:10:31.080 because you have your

01:10:32.900 you have a podcast network

01:10:34.000 yeah

01:10:34.220 have you had any

01:10:35.120 have you had any offers

01:10:36.080 because now they're buying networks

01:10:37.640 like Conan Wright

01:10:38.540 sold his for what

01:10:39.360 like 110

01:10:39.920 yeah

01:10:40.560 I wouldn't do it right now

01:10:43.280 Why is that?

01:10:43.920 You think it would be under, like it still needs more?

01:10:46.440 I'm 45.

01:10:48.080 I'm 45.

01:10:48.960 I'm still growing this thing.

01:10:50.000 You're playing the long game.

01:10:50.960 I'm always playing the long game.

01:10:52.280 Really?

01:10:52.640 If it is what it is today, then what will it be in five years?

01:10:54.760 What will it be in 10 years?

01:10:55.580 You can think that far out?

01:10:57.300 Yeah.

01:10:57.760 I've had trouble doing that.

01:10:59.300 Yeah, that's where I find most of my success.

01:11:01.740 Really?

01:11:02.140 In the foresight.

01:11:03.300 Strategy.

01:11:03.780 Respect.

01:11:04.400 Planning.

01:11:05.080 Prep.

01:11:05.620 I have a ceiling usually at three.

01:11:07.200 I'm trying to get to four and five.

01:11:09.000 I don't even know what I'm doing tomorrow.

01:11:10.580 Yeah.

01:11:10.840 i don't even really know what i did earlier today i don't know what's happening right now

01:11:16.020 yeah but i feel like you can do that and still be really clear on what your next five years

01:11:21.400 may look like i'm different i'm a little bit different i like to let life come to me

01:11:26.120 okay and it's worked and it's worked really well okay it's worked really well but i'm not hey hey

01:11:33.220 but i will say this i'm envious of both of you and i truly mean that in your envious of your

01:11:37.860 ability to to be planful it's just it's just it's just a trait that i just was not given

01:11:42.720 and have not yet developed and again earlier i said my my idea of success is being able to do

01:11:49.080 what the fuck i want to do i'm not with selling off a chunk and having you guys come and give me

01:11:55.180 your opinions on how we can scale this thing not now not right now yeah you know if you could own 0.97

01:12:01.160 one piece of sports memorabilia from any person dead or alive from any part of history what would

01:12:07.720 A BNY.

01:12:12.940 It's an interesting question.

01:12:15.400 Fanatics asked me to ask it to you. 0.99

01:12:18.660 Shut up, Fanatics. 0.99

01:12:20.680 It's been a while. 0.99

01:12:21.520 It's been a while since, yeah, I realized we haven't been doing it.

01:12:24.500 We haven't been doing it.

01:12:26.220 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:28.280 One piece of sports memorabilia.

01:12:30.820 Yeah.

01:12:33.240 I'll keep it somewhat realistic because I should have been at that game. 0.99

01:12:37.020 I should have been at the Aaron, not Aaron Judge, the fucking A-Rod Yankee game 0.97

01:12:42.460 that last home run when he broke the record. 0.98

01:12:47.120 Yeah.

01:12:48.060 The ball?

01:12:48.640 Yeah, the ball.

01:12:49.440 The ball.

01:12:50.080 The ball.

01:12:50.860 A-Rod's ball.

01:12:52.460 Pause, but yeah.

01:12:56.560 Dude, thanks for joining us today.

01:12:58.180 Thanks for having me.

01:12:59.280 This was a lot of fun.

01:13:00.700 Hell yeah.

01:13:01.320 I'm glad you chose our podcast to come on.

01:13:03.300 No, this was great.

01:13:04.260 This was great.

01:13:04.880 I would do it again.

01:13:05.480 It was nice to meet you finally as well.

01:13:06.860 not online seeing the clips

01:13:09.060 yeah so now when you hear the stories

01:13:11.400 about me saying Joe wasn't that angry when he came up

01:13:13.360 he was actually pretty chill

01:13:14.420 might have been more pleasant than us even

01:13:17.380 yeah probably

01:13:18.760 thank you guys I appreciate it

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