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00:02:12.320 I've probably been in 12 shootouts.

00:02:14.500 Oh, my God.

00:02:15.340 I've been, I mean, I had a life where.

00:02:17.780 One is a lot.

00:02:19.660 But 12?

00:02:20.560 But that's when I didn't even think it was unusual back then.

00:02:24.320 Oh, my God.

00:02:24.840 To have gotten shot, that was like.

00:02:27.460 Well, you've been shot.

00:02:27.900 And what?

00:02:28.520 yeah welcome back to impulsive the number one podcast in the world thank you guys for listening

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00:02:56.680 dude like have you heard the message do you get it at this point it's the number one podcast in 0.99

00:03:01.280 the world i'm not making that up i couldn't make that up no stats science analytics how you doing

00:03:05.920 i'm good man really today's today's gonna be a quiet one i don't i don't know if you guys can

00:03:10.700 tell the person sitting to my left is not hey big mike yeah i feel really close to you right now well

00:03:15.280 our knees are touching yeah well so my guys mike's not here he uh he actually quit i i sort of it was

00:03:24.680 like a mutual like i'm firing you and he quit wait you he i thought he went to miami he's fired

00:03:30.500 no he went to miami because i fired him oh my sorry mike you are not allowed back in the maverick

00:03:35.040 house and i am filing a restraining order against you bro but it's not been bad like i love mike

00:03:40.680 loved and the house has just been much more quiet a lot less thoughts running around it's been

00:03:48.320 really good you actually fired the man yeah oh yeah no i'm joking i'm joking i didn't fire mike

00:03:54.260 He's in Miami.

00:03:54.920 He's in Miami being a degenerate, as we know, on a yacht with models and other famous people.

00:03:59.760 Oh, he got a brand deal, I think. 0.54

00:04:02.800 Wow.

00:04:03.180 I think he got a brand deal.

00:04:04.300 So he's really moving up.

00:04:06.020 Sort of. 0.90

00:04:06.700 So am I, though, because the 20%. 0.95

00:04:08.600 20%. 0.90

00:04:08.860 Yeah.

00:04:09.760 Sorry, Mike.

00:04:10.400 I will be sending you an invoice.

00:04:12.460 What's he doing?

00:04:13.560 Like, in Miami?

00:04:14.260 Yeah.

00:04:14.960 Probably something.

00:04:16.180 He's on a yacht, dude.

00:04:17.420 He's on a yacht.

00:04:17.740 Actually, Bella Thorne is there, too.

00:04:19.740 We just head on.

00:04:20.760 I believe Austin McBroom is there.

00:04:22.640 There's a lot of people there.

00:04:23.600 i saw stories something's going stuff going on hey man have you ever have you ever thought about

00:04:27.780 like how dangerous it is to like literally just be too dope for your own good what oh uh like be

00:04:33.460 too dope for like if you reach a point where you're so cool you're too cool and you hurt

00:04:37.520 yourself because of it yeah yeah yeah i'm approaching there so i haven't given it too

00:04:42.320 much thought yeah you are close i'm about it i'm asking because uh when i was in ohio

00:04:45.900 jake's uh jake's videographer blue andrew blue he he he's he's a super dope guy in fact he's

00:04:51.920 too dope he's too dope for his own good he was that guy who goes and like pours bottles in

00:04:55.520 everyone's mouth at the club and he's like the life of the party type guy and he kept doing that

00:04:59.500 so much into himself and you know at the end of the night he's passed he's the guy that's passed

00:05:03.700 out in the middle of the party too dope too dope for your own good because because when he was

00:05:08.700 being the life of the party and he was that guy i was like wow so so cool so cool guy that he's

00:05:13.700 doing that and making everyone laugh and smile and then at the end of the night i was like oh 0.83

00:05:17.080 shit like you really outdid yourself this time guy does that happen to you do you know no i'm i'm 0.98

00:05:23.820 really good at handling my alcohol even like even when i'm like hammered you'd never know dude what's 0.99

00:05:30.340 like what's your secret to doing that some people just don't have that bro it's a mental game bro

00:05:36.440 like you know this where you i'm sure you're probably the same way like my mental is so strong

00:05:41.060 like no no alcohol is gonna get in there and tell me what i should do when i used to drink

00:05:46.560 and i got to that level like i never i i could handle my alcohol very well you're right

00:05:51.780 and when i would drink back in the day i just had this mode where it's like you gotta get to

00:05:58.040 somewhere safe and sleep and i would just it was like a yes you have to do the safest location

00:06:04.020 life or death yeah me bro it when i when i'm like that i always have to first brush my teeth

00:06:08.980 take my shoes off like i'm never the guy that comes home and just passes out on on the bed

00:06:13.500 fully clothed with face down really did you oh that's happened really yeah i know bro for some

00:06:18.580 reason my teeth are always brushed my socks are always off and i'm under the covers tucked nice

00:06:23.180 and neat away that's good but i will advocate like don't drink ever i'm not drinking i'm done

00:06:28.640 drinking for not for good yeah forever forever someone's something just doesn't feel i mean it

00:06:34.120 this time i'm really on a binge a cleanse right now i'm also gluten-free gotta protect my vocal

00:06:38.260 chords i'm headed to sweden to make music for two weeks so all right good you'll catch me on

00:06:43.600 so you're actually finally charts you're gonna finally release the music uh no i'm just recording

00:06:48.440 it it's gonna be a while sorry i'm blue balling everyone something mike is probably experiencing 0.60

00:06:53.200 right now i want to introduce our guys guys yo today's a big one for me this is fucking awesome 0.98

00:06:59.240 our guest today is our first that can definitely kick my ass he's a black belt in the eight 0.97

00:07:04.100 martial arts and a true movie star you've seen him in the dark night why did i get married never 0.99

00:07:08.340 back down to and he is spawned ladies and gentlemen it's michael j white damn bro i can't 0.56

00:07:16.720 believe this this is fucking awesome oh my pleasure nice to meet you bro thank you for coming on oh 0.99

00:07:22.540 yeah if at any moment you want to beat his ass you have full permission whoa yeah i mean please 0.99

00:07:28.860 don't um no it's all love here man you know hey you are you right down the street from me i didn't 0.99

00:07:34.140 know that we're like neighbors yeah so it's good it's it's a good place to live man like and you

00:07:39.380 got a family now correct absolutely you got a full-on family it's a nice family family neighborhood

00:07:43.300 um but it's you're right it is all love here and uh in most of your movies like i see you pretty

00:07:49.220 intense and kicking ass and like i'm never sure what to expect when the person walks in here 0.97

00:07:53.700 but you're all smiles and positivity yeah that's the real me oh shit honestly you know i hate to 0.99

00:08:00.040 kill it for you no it's all good you know i mean there's there's facets of my personality that's 0.86

00:08:04.300 you know i mean i can go from here to here like we all can yeah you know yeah we got that edge in 0.97

00:08:10.300 us you know but does that come from somewhere like are you channeling hell yeah yeah i grew up in

00:08:15.740 in brooklyn okay i grew up in brooklyn and bridgeport connecticut so uh i've been on my

00:08:20.820 since i was 14 i had a whole lot of like adversity but i love it because that's what makes me

00:08:26.140 appreciate life where i am now yeah so that's where the smiles are coming from these smiles

00:08:31.260 were not there like the the first half of my life what when was that switch oh man when i realized i

00:08:37.300 was uh i was chasing my dream and i you know if you're chasing your dream you have if you're one

00:08:42.020 of those people lucky enough to follow what's what's in your heart yeah you already won yeah

00:08:46.800 You know, so it's like a, you know, that that whole, you know, the journey thing.

00:08:51.760 Yeah, it's true. It's really about that.

00:08:54.240 So, you know, when I when I knew I already won because I'm doing what I want to do, it didn't matter if it happened for me or not.

00:09:00.880 I was I was following, you know, I basically had my hand on the steering wheel of my life, you know.

00:09:05.800 Yeah. So, you know, that's when everything changed, because, I mean, like I say, it was a gift.

00:09:10.300 What's his name? Roberto Benigni said he did that Life is Beautiful movie a long time ago.

00:09:15.860 I'm old but he said he had the gift of poverty and I really think of it as a gift because I mean

00:09:23.060 where I had to come from oh my goodness man I remember when I had problems and so now I mean

00:09:30.560 my kids still can attest that they've never even seen me angry because really really because it's

00:09:36.140 like what do I have to be angry about if I'm if I'm complaining about my problems now I should

00:09:40.700 be slapped damn you understand because i remember having serious uh problems what were some of those 0.91

00:09:48.140 problems i've probably been in 12 shootouts oh my god i've been i mean i had a life where one is 0.98

00:09:54.720 one is a lot but 12 but that's when i didn't even think it was unusual back then god to to have

00:10:02.100 gotten shot that was like well you've been shot and what yeah where where did you get shot well

00:10:08.580 in in brooklyn no i'm kidding but i'm in the arm and in the hip but it's uh but you know it it's

00:10:15.500 like i'm saying like you know i came from a place where my life was really hard and i mean if you

00:10:21.600 if you carry that ethic you know you you know these the character um developing hard times in

00:10:29.740 your life this makes you if you if you know where to put them it just it they're such

00:10:35.640 they're so valuable like you know i checked into you you know i mean but i mean man the man you

00:10:43.720 you'll be coming and it it's like you wouldn't have that if you didn't make the missteps yeah

00:10:49.680 yeah because there's some people who never learn from it and they never evolve right so you know

00:10:54.740 what a blessing that you have a misstep so you can evolve from it and become better very true

00:10:59.840 because now you're tested very true you know you just posted this on your twitter actually which

00:11:03.480 I think relates to this what is defeat nothing but education nothing but the first step to

00:11:07.300 something better absolutely um I was just gonna say so uh when you were going through when when

00:11:15.280 you were in your impoverished times where life may have not been um so easy how did you find the

00:11:23.680 strength within you to get out of that or have the drive to get out of that because now you're

00:11:28.600 absolutely right like I feel the same way I don't have much to complain about you use the analogy

00:11:32.700 of hand life on hand on the steering wheel of life i i like to say like i feel like i've always

00:11:37.460 like sort of puppeteered my life and it's easy to look back and say right now like i don't have

00:11:42.160 much to complain about but back in the day did you find yourself complaining uh why me why me

00:11:48.760 why me or what was your mentality during that time well i mean largely see i didn't know it was that

00:11:53.900 unusual okay you know yeah uh until like later sometimes like there would be times where um

00:11:59.880 I remember, you know, being out here chasing the Hollywood thing and an old girlfriend went back east with me and we, you know, palled around with some of my my old friends.

00:12:11.840 Yeah. And she thought like, oh, you guys are pulling my leg. That didn't really happen.

00:12:16.440 It was like, no, it did. This is like, you know, word for word, we would have these these stories.

00:12:21.940 But that was just like, I mean, it was I remember one time there was a, you know, I'll make it short, but it was like I was hanging around a lot of hood type cats and I had a lot of fire in me, had a lot of anger.

00:12:38.420 And this is one of the things that I want to point out.

00:12:41.720 A lot of the most violent folks I ever grew up are the most violent people you know.

00:12:47.280 They basically, they're protecting themselves from their sensitive nature, basically.

00:12:54.060 It's what you do is if you feel a great deal about, you know, if you're an emotional person and you're growing up in a harsh reality, what you do is you protect yourself.

00:13:06.060 It's just like armor.

00:13:07.280 You create armor.

00:13:08.420 And so that rah-rah, this fighting, the lifting weights, the hardening myself became the armor because deep down I was a sensitive person who loved the hell out of things.

00:13:21.980 My brother, who was an engineer, was completely the opposite.

00:13:25.280 Just everything rolled off his back, but everything affected me.

00:13:28.640 Just like I later played Mike Tyson, who was very much like me.

00:13:32.620 And you think about somebody like Mike Tyson.

00:13:34.600 He's one of the most brutal people you ever want to see.

00:13:37.000 But he's the first guy to go to tears in an interview.

00:13:40.280 You know what I mean?

00:13:41.020 That's two sides of the same coin.

00:13:43.040 And so a lot of people grew up thinking, you know, and taking a moniker of, you know, I'm a warrior, I'm a killer, I'm this and that.

00:13:51.420 But deep down, they feel so strong, this misplaced love.

00:13:57.460 That's why you see gangsters, like, die for their street.

00:14:01.180 Yeah.

00:14:01.720 Die for their hood. 0.95

00:14:03.140 Die for their homeboy.

00:14:04.200 that that little thing because they have so much love they don't know what to do with it

00:14:08.200 and so that is that's the that's the nature of somebody sensitive that's why a lot of these

00:14:13.280 violent people like myself were artists deep down you know but you find out who you really are

00:14:19.080 and so you know when i i learned you know this is who i am uh later before i was an actor i was a

00:14:26.160 i was a school teacher and i was i started teaching kids who were a lot a lot like me

00:14:30.460 so i've been on my own since i was 14 so the so i i experienced a whole lot of you know it's crazy

00:14:39.060 when i look back at yeah for sure stuff that you see on movies luckily i can dip into that to you

00:14:44.520 know to recreate for my art but yeah i mean i just started to i realized just seeing some of the right

00:14:51.800 images at the right time that there was another way there was another way there was another you

00:14:57.500 I saw this black family moving into this house.

00:15:00.000 It was an attractive couple one time. 0.99

00:15:02.220 I was leaving a gang fight.

00:15:04.240 I was on my bike.

00:15:06.960 This is in Brooklyn.

00:15:08.040 Well, this is in Bridgeport, Connecticut, which was worse than Brooklyn.

00:15:10.860 Okay.

00:15:12.220 We got in a fight.

00:15:14.220 I was about 15.

00:15:16.300 Cops came.

00:15:17.680 I was on a bike, dodging, trying to get out of there.

00:15:20.880 I found myself in a neighborhood I'd never seen.

00:15:23.340 I didn't even know it was around.

00:15:24.580 It was these beautiful houses built around a lake.

00:15:27.500 you know right in Bridgeport Connecticut uh it was actually called Lakeview uh and I saw this 0.66

00:15:33.980 young black couple moving into this house and I was I was like perplexed from that moment on 1.00

00:15:40.020 I wanted to be just like those people I realized at that moment that that's why I'm so angry I

00:15:46.720 haven't seen this image and from that moment on I wanted to be like them but the day before that

00:15:53.940 I wanted to be like this dude named Brett who had machine guns in his car and had all the respect in the hood.

00:15:59.660 So you didn't have the family dynamic to look up to or how, what was your family dynamic like?

00:16:07.500 Well, you know, it was a single family, you know, single mom, you know, it's like very, very common where I was from.

00:16:14.060 Actually, you know, it's, it's one of those things that, you know, people learn how to blame their, their family and their, their fathers and whatever. 0.99

00:16:22.780 That's bullshit. 0.94

00:16:23.940 You know, I like to say, you know, I had a pre-existing condition because I was nothing like my brother, right? 1.00

00:16:33.420 This was who I am.

00:16:34.640 I could blame my father and everybody's going to agree with me.

00:16:38.000 Nobody's going to tell me I'm wrong.

00:16:39.720 But that's what we learn how to like scapegoat.

00:16:42.900 We learn how to blame things that other people are going to, you know, going to respect and say, yeah, yeah, you're right.

00:16:49.120 Yeah.

00:16:49.640 But, you know, the fact is I was the way I am.

00:16:53.940 You know, I was, you know, I acted out, you know, my mom was, you know, wasn't Ozzie and Harriet, but like, you know, I learned that, hey, it's a me thing.

00:17:09.380 I eventually saw the right, like I said, saw the right images at the right time.

00:17:14.720 And I said, oh, wait a minute.

00:17:16.380 That's why I'm so angry.

00:17:17.380 This is what I want to become.

00:17:18.800 and so i mean you know i'm i'm like one of the most luckiest people on the planet because

00:17:25.220 those you know those images came along right at the right time yeah yeah yeah it sounds like a

00:17:31.700 extreme timing thing i i want i want to ask um that that facade of armor that you were talking

00:17:38.240 about is that bad is that a bad thing to have or is there like a message maybe you're trying to

00:17:43.520 spread to not do that or did was that necessary it's like i want people to understand themselves

00:17:48.140 Just like when I was teaching school, when I was teaching EMD and mostly disturbed children, very much like me, a lot of them didn't understand their own nature.

00:17:57.920 Like, I didn't understand mine.

00:17:59.720 So, yeah, I loved to fight at the time.

00:18:04.600 It was my, you know, it was my, I just had to have that outlet.

00:18:08.880 Interesting.

00:18:09.500 And so martial arts helped.

00:18:10.800 Did you know how, like, were you taking martial art classes?

00:18:12.940 Oh, yeah, but I didn't take it for the great reasons.

00:18:15.120 I took it because I wouldn't get in trouble for fighting.

00:18:20.120 And I used to fight grown men, like, you know, I was 14, 15.

00:18:24.100 I stopped growing at 13.

00:18:26.100 I was this height.

00:18:26.720 No, you're lying.

00:18:27.480 No joke.

00:18:27.820 I was this height, and I had a deep voice, too.

00:18:30.460 That's terrifying.

00:18:30.960 Yeah, so it was like I got away with a whole lot.

00:18:33.700 Like, I was dating grown women when I was, like, 14 years old, 14 and 15.

00:18:38.020 I know how that works.

00:18:38.680 Yeah.

00:18:41.000 Not personally.

00:18:42.160 I know a guy.

00:18:42.780 I know a friend in front of me.

00:18:43.620 Okay, yeah.

00:18:44.420 It reminds me of one of my favorite quotes is it's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener during a war.

00:18:52.420 Yes, exactly.

00:18:53.220 And that's what your story kind of reminds me of.

00:18:55.800 You seem to have translated that warrior into being able to operate and function in a garden.

00:19:02.260 Yeah, it's like, hey, that edge, that's, it's like a fire, you know, and fire could cook the food or it could burn the house down.

00:19:12.060 You just got to know what to do with it.

00:19:13.780 Yeah. Right. But I think I think you're blessed to have that fire.

00:19:17.280 You're blessed to have that passion.

00:19:19.300 But like in an arena, in an environment where.

00:19:25.520 That humility and that that feeling is deemed a weak quality.

00:19:29.780 Yeah. It does a number on the psyche because, you know, I mean, I could fight anybody tooth and nail and then go to tears because there's a there's an abandoned dog somewhere.

00:19:41.380 you know what i mean i'm feeding squirrels and i'm supposed to be i'm supposed to be this hard

00:19:45.540 ass dude but like i'm like what the hell is going on you know but it's like i say it's part of the

00:19:50.920 same human being that's who i was i'm i'm the art you know i'm i've been this artist all my life 0.97

00:19:57.320 to you know when i found out really this is what i'm supposed to do you know then everything

00:20:03.760 changed you know i i found basically you know it's like what they say you know we throw in all

00:20:09.320 these uh sayings or mark twain says um two most important days is the day you were born and the

00:20:15.140 day you find out why oh that's fucking awesome but now yeah but to find out why man and you know

00:20:22.340 what you're supposed to be doing well there's a lot of people that better than that yeah yeah

00:20:27.320 there's a lot of people that really struggle with that and not only do they struggle they

00:20:31.560 beat themselves up because they don't know why they're alive so how can i was gonna say especially

00:20:37.760 today like with social media and everything like i think that's why uh i'm exaggerating here

00:20:43.340 everyone's depressed it's because they they are unsure of their purpose or don't feel fulfilled

00:20:48.440 because they have not found it yet and they see a lot of it's comparison you know because i mean

00:20:53.040 a lot of people social media is like toxic for that yeah yeah it's it's people it's hard to

00:20:57.920 develop now you're you're you got to get around your own influences and sometimes it's it's like

00:21:03.980 uh even your own peer group and when you're doing yeah when you're doing what you're supposed to

00:21:09.380 just like in the hood i'm supposed to be a gangster that's supposed that's represent good

00:21:14.960 in if you're coming from the hood right um well you questioning are you being uh depressed is

00:21:23.300 commonplace so that is a choice now that's one of the things is when you're under angst and you're

00:21:30.060 you're you're you're very impressionable that's one of the boxes you check are you depressed

00:21:35.460 yeah i'm depressed there's it's it's now people become so sophisticated sometimes

00:21:42.480 all of that knowledge can kind of hinder your growth but it's it you know all you know all

00:21:50.740 around it's it's um it's good it's going to be an evolution but yeah your your age group has a lot

00:21:59.020 of uh distractions well i've talked about this before this is like kind of a touchy subject but

00:22:03.620 like especially with like depression and and um any sort of mental disorder uh it's it's tough

00:22:10.800 now because people who maybe feel like sad for a couple days in a row because you know they're in

00:22:16.680 high school and they broke up with their their partner are now depressed because they see it on

00:22:20.820 social media because you do have very courageous uh celebrity social media stars opening up about

00:22:26.280 true like by the way clinical depression and now it's i think it's the i think it's the go-to and i

00:22:32.920 i think hopefully we can grow out of that and people can adopt the mindset that you had where

00:22:38.620 it's like you can choose to live in what you've been bred to believe and think or you can say like

00:22:46.160 okay like my dad may have not not may not have been there for me but i'm not going to blame

00:22:49.980 everything on him because now it's time to take life into my own hands yeah because when you when

00:22:54.540 you have um the you know your peer groups yeah you tend to agree with you you say you you talk

00:23:04.560 about the low-hanging fruit and the things that will gain acceptance in a in a crowded room uh

00:23:11.140 people have to have the courage to be that voice of dissension in the room you gotta really you

00:23:18.460 know find out who you are and uh the earlier you do that and the more um that's why i love when

00:23:25.340 you're you know you're doing things where you're you know the greatest thing man you're so honest

00:23:30.600 and and if people follow you and they they like you they i hope they grasp what it what it is

00:23:40.160 special about you is that honesty thanks man and to be that honest with themselves because like i

00:23:46.020 say it's really difficult now like like okay say my my father was a uh ladies man right uh and if

00:23:55.060 i was a ladies man and i told everybody yeah i'm a ladies man but like my father was oh that's

00:23:59.500 acceptable now if i you know i said well i i'm a one woman man because my father was a ladies man

00:24:05.500 that would be acceptable as well right so just that assessing you know assigning blame is just

00:24:14.520 you know we become black belts in that you know people just do it it's it's just i just want to

00:24:20.940 encourage people not to go for the low hanging fruit not to go for that easy thing and just

00:24:25.060 okay because a lot of times once you assess the blame you feel like all the work is done yeah

00:24:30.620 it's not done go further think about it's it's a great that you know be part of the palette

00:24:37.860 But continue.

00:24:39.540 Just think about, okay, what am I doing?

00:24:43.600 You know, how much blame do I deserve or how complicit am I in it?

00:24:49.800 And your friends, be that for them as well.

00:24:52.460 Because, I mean, hey, man, your friendships are some of the most important relationships you'll ever have.

00:24:57.400 So, you know, put that time in.

00:25:00.320 Don't let your friend, you know, just appease himself by the low-hanging fruit.

00:25:05.740 yep yep so you you've done you had a whole extensive hollywood career and i'm curious

00:25:10.360 to see how you got into that but this was a big one for you spawn spawn this this this was big

00:25:16.780 dude this was huge and um i want to talk a little bit about this and how this came about and

00:25:20.720 at what point in your career was this was this a turning point for you yeah yeah well i mean uh

00:25:27.180 before that it was i did a movie uh the mike tyson story yes okay so that's that's really

00:25:31.920 kind of which actually put me you know picture this here too i think on uh yeah you played mike

00:25:37.540 tyson and you met you you met and like kind of adopted tyson's character correct like yeah yeah

00:25:43.180 he was in prison when i was doing the movie but but i had a few you know phone conversations with

00:25:47.460 him while he was while he was uh in is that is that because uh when we talked to jordan belford

00:25:52.220 uh the wolf of wall street he had spent an extensive amount of time with leo

00:25:57.200 was that did you get that privilege like did you ever go to prison and like hang out with Tyson

00:26:03.620 no because when in all honesty you know what's Mike Tyson gonna tell me he's gonna tell me

00:26:10.040 how you know he's gonna he's gonna gloss over things in a certain way you know I mean it's

00:26:15.440 not like I mean hey Tyson's you know he's you know I felt like I understood him because a lot

00:26:21.960 a lot about me was similar yeah you know yeah uh that rage thing i mean i was really playing myself

00:26:28.760 uh you know it was uh so many pictures here of you jess tyson right right so you were playing i

00:26:38.760 mean that's but that's acting in general right you bring yourself to the character that you're

00:26:42.120 playing well you know you you find out what characteristics that you have that's like him

00:26:46.120 And it's astonishing the similarities that we had because I was a karate champion early on.

00:26:53.200 And and when you were a kid and you were given this power, this the power of a pugilist is it's it it overrides any other celebrity part, you know, power.

00:27:06.760 power yeah because like if you had a a room full of dignitaries you know political you got obama

00:27:13.760 you got uh you know de niro and all this stuff and then tyson walks in the room everybody's

00:27:18.800 looking at him yeah okay because there's in a male-dominated society this this worship of

00:27:24.000 pugilists like kind of reign supreme uh and that's a twisted thing to give to a youngster

00:27:31.220 you know and so when i'm doing martial arts and a lot of times with martial arts people's

00:27:36.140 imaginations get carried away and they go, you know, it's like,

00:27:39.140 it's kind of like a man thing that it's like in a crowded room and somebody

00:27:42.200 goes, that guy's the most dangerous person.

00:27:46.100 Everybody goes, yeah, you know, it's this weird thing. 1.00

00:27:49.540 And it's like, luckily I went through my asshole phase early. 0.98

00:27:53.220 Like I remember times where I'd be in a room and people didn't know I won 0.99

00:27:57.600 this championship or not.

00:27:58.700 And I'd segue like quite bullshittish into like, you know, Oh, you know,

00:28:04.040 Speaking of collard greens, when I won the tournament, oh, yeah.

00:28:08.100 Yeah, that's the best transition.

00:28:09.660 You do this all the time. 0.99

00:28:10.960 And I heard myself these asshole segues because I was used to this attention. 1.00

00:28:18.040 You know, like I say, these missteps make you kind of go, oh, shit, I am an asshole right now. 1.00

00:28:23.420 And you kind of go. 1.00

00:28:24.700 Wait, no one told you?

00:28:25.680 No.

00:28:26.160 I mean, just I heard myself.

00:28:28.240 People tell me that sometimes.

00:28:29.600 Well, sometimes it's a benefit.

00:28:32.560 It's true.

00:28:33.100 has the true if they're gonna be honest enough to tell you that well also also like are you in 0.99

00:28:37.660 the asshole phase bro me no i pass him but also like fuck bro i'm like i'm a nice guy but when i 0.99

00:28:45.160 gotta be an asshole i'm gonna be an asshole i think the asshole phase uh is like you said it's 0.99

00:28:51.880 over i think it comes out if if someone really messes up like like but you have to mess up a 1.00

00:28:57.440 couple times but you weren't really an asshole even you'd have to extensively mess up yeah like

00:29:02.880 I don't know. 0.96

00:29:03.220 I think Mike is probably the only one who probably gets that.

00:29:06.000 You can really push my buttons, that guy.

00:29:08.360 Yeah, well, you know, you're a real sensitive cat, man.

00:29:11.720 It's like you beat yourself up.

00:29:14.500 Me?

00:29:14.900 Yeah, you beat yourself up.

00:29:17.920 No, I'm not.

00:29:19.440 That's cool.

00:29:20.360 That's cool.

00:29:20.900 Now break into him.

00:29:21.880 Yeah, it's a certain point where, you know,

00:29:25.960 people will kind of get you for your sensitivity.

00:29:28.700 How do you see that with Logan?

00:29:30.520 What in particular?

00:29:31.760 You have a daughter, right?

00:29:33.740 Oh, he's trying to transition.

00:29:35.080 You have three daughters.

00:29:35.780 No, no, I'm just, I'm wondering because like,

00:29:37.240 how would he know other than like maybe his daughters watch like Jake or I?

00:29:40.820 All right, respect.

00:29:42.160 Is that true or am I being exaggerated here?

00:29:46.920 I don't know.

00:29:47.320 I feel like he can just read energy, man. 0.98

00:29:48.620 He's a black belt. 1.00

00:29:49.420 He could kill you right now. 1.00

00:29:50.540 I think he knows everything about you. 1.00

00:29:52.060 Listen, is that true?

00:29:53.360 Like how would, have you seen any of my stuff?

00:29:55.340 Yeah. 0.99

00:29:55.700 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:29:56.520 My daughters know you. 1.00

00:29:59.100 There you go.

00:29:59.680 Yeah.

00:29:59.840 one was just talking to me about

00:30:02.060 she's waited on you and

00:30:04.120 there's a grocery store that she

00:30:06.640 works at and one day you came in

00:30:08.680 there and bought all the

00:30:10.660 peanut butter and jelly. Do you remember that?

00:30:13.980 Was she working there?

00:30:14.440 That was recent. Yeah, yeah.

00:30:16.200 I said hi? Yeah, you were cool.

00:30:18.560 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00

00:30:19.820 Did she check us out? Yes. 1.00

00:30:21.720 I remember that.

00:30:23.840 She checked you out.

00:30:26.060 She checked you out.

00:30:27.720 Yeah, exactly.

00:30:28.120 Yeah, of course not, like, admire how we looked.

00:30:31.440 She checked us out.

00:30:32.100 It wasn't an appearance thing, obviously.

00:30:33.960 Michael J. White, I would never disrespect you or your family,

00:30:36.420 especially not your daughters. 0.65

00:30:37.180 No, it's not the same.

00:30:37.880 That's what I'm saying.

00:30:38.560 That's oversensitivity.

00:30:39.640 No.

00:30:41.200 Come on, man.

00:30:42.500 Hey.

00:30:42.960 You got any sons?

00:30:43.920 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:44.380 That's cool, man.

00:30:45.340 Throw a football, man, sometime. 1.00

00:30:48.360 Bro, fuck, I'm sweating, bro. 1.00

00:30:49.860 No, this is nervous. 1.00

00:30:50.860 Hey, when your daughters come home with, like, a boy,

00:30:54.600 has it happened yet? 0.64

00:30:55.900 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:30:56.400 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:30:57.540 Yeah, but, you know, I hate to, you know, be all mean on the— 1.00

00:31:01.440 I mean, you don't have to be mean, but you just have to speak. 0.97

00:31:04.620 You sound like the old Spice guy, but just, like, could kill you.

00:31:08.660 I really don't have to because, I mean, she's kind of tough anyway. 0.94

00:31:12.000 And she basically comes on with guys that she has on a leash.

00:31:17.240 Oh, man. 1.00

00:31:18.400 I need to be a girl like that. 1.00

00:31:19.500 She's no joke. 0.89

00:31:20.820 She's like—

00:31:21.420 But are they on the leash because of you?

00:31:22.640 You sit there, you do this, and—

00:31:23.920 No, no, it's because of her.

00:31:25.340 She's like, my daughter is, man, they're no joke.

00:31:30.260 Have you ever had to dig into a guy who's disrespected your daughter?

00:31:35.620 No, haven't had to.

00:31:37.100 I think they're kind of well-trained.

00:31:39.020 Yeah, they got a good eye.

00:31:39.980 Yeah.

00:31:40.380 Flex the pack ones.

00:31:40.680 Flex the pack ones. 0.97

00:31:41.300 Non-asshole dudes. 0.99

00:31:41.800 Yeah, I got a 10-year-old that's just going to destroy people. 0.99

00:31:45.580 Oh, a son?

00:31:47.240 No, a daughter.

00:31:48.780 A daughter. 1.00

00:31:49.780 She's like feisty like that? 1.00

00:31:51.160 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:31:51.920 She's testing for a black belt soon, too. 1.00

00:31:54.520 Damn, damn. 1.00

00:31:56.200 She's got a left hook on her. 1.00

00:31:57.700 Oh, for real? 1.00

00:31:58.280 Yeah.

00:31:58.760 I do, too.

00:31:59.780 You can ask my boxing coach.

00:32:00.840 By the way, shout out Milton for making this happen.

00:32:03.560 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:32:04.220 That's my boxing coach.

00:32:05.840 You're the second guest he's brought on.

00:32:07.420 I'm not really sure how you're doing it, Milt. 1.00

00:32:09.020 Puerto Rican.

00:32:09.520 Puerto Rican, he says.

00:32:10.560 He says that about everything. 0.86

00:32:11.860 He really does, huh?

00:32:13.180 So he eats peanut butter and jelly.

00:32:14.680 We asked why.

00:32:15.200 He says, I'm Puerto Rican.

00:32:16.320 Oh, and by the way, the peanut butter and jelly we put all over my body,

00:32:20.720 and I went to a dog park, and the dogs licked me.

00:32:24.800 story for another day cops for real that really happened okay can you imagine the cops roll up

00:32:30.460 and i'm like literally fully i have peanut butter i'm trying not to imagine that you don't have to

00:32:34.640 but it was weird i said i told the cops i'm like this is not my proudest moment i like i definitely 0.97

00:32:39.320 hate myself but please like i'm sorry for wasting your time um anyways anyways uh you are a black

00:32:46.620 belt in eight martial arts uh what what are those exactly i gotta take a deep breath on this one

00:32:52.180 It's Kyokushin, Shotokan, Taekwondo, Tangsudo, Goju, Shokuru, did I say Kobudo?

00:33:03.240 I don't know, man. 0.98

00:33:05.060 Yeah, this all sounds like a damn menu. 0.98

00:33:08.720 Well, I mean, that's a lot, man. 0.98

00:33:11.440 So, like, how do you decide, like, how many disciplines can you learn before it's too many?

00:33:17.100 Or have you ever mastered one, you know, to the fourth, fifth degree black belt type?

00:33:21.160 Well, yeah. Well, for me, it's like I always tried to pick things that were very different. Like I do wushu.

00:33:27.800 Oh, yeah. Wushu is like very flowery, very like it's hard. It's the hardest one to learn.

00:33:35.180 Just like ballet is harder than karate, you know? Yeah.

00:33:38.220 Because, I mean, you know, at my size, doing all this splitty, you know, extension and stuff. 0.98

00:33:43.960 Yeah, ballet is fucking hard. 0.82

00:33:45.180 it's hard so to be for for me for my size to do wushu means everything else is easy so there's a 0.97

00:33:52.840 there's a benefit with every martial arts are you doing jiu-jitsu well i actually started with

00:33:56.680 jiu-jitsu but there's a benefit to each one i mean but i look at it like in life i never look at

00:34:03.120 anything from one perspective you know you just you get you got this now go do this and um you

00:34:10.400 know and it's it's keeping you humble you know because you know you got you put on a black belt

00:34:14.780 over here you put on a white belt over here now you got to be humble again yep you gotta you gotta

00:34:19.240 learn so you know and the great greatest thing about martial arts is overcoming obstacles that's

00:34:25.100 what it's all about in in life so if i train myself to overcome obstacles then you know i'm

00:34:31.100 training that from the inside you know the musculature the the the you know the effectiveness

00:34:38.120 the the dangerous stuff is as a result of what i'm doing from the inside you know a lot of people

00:34:44.000 look at oh you kick ass well it's it's more so um the intention my inclination or my mindset

00:34:52.620 to go through you is much more dangerous than the techniques themselves you see what i'm saying 0.85

00:34:58.400 so it's about that that work ethic that it trains so if i have to get a third job to feed my family

00:35:07.000 it's about my discipline you know so that's the that's the benefit of martial arts it's not just

00:35:12.840 the you know i'm i can kick people in the head yeah it's about you know it should be tantamount

00:35:18.380 to like the navy seals we were just talking about this yesterday about discipline like

00:35:23.140 how do you is there a correct way to transition that into your kids like we were trying to figure

00:35:29.100 out if it's okay to spank your kids oh yeah you know yeah like is martial arts or putting them

00:35:36.420 through those kind of things a better route i love it i think it's great because it's individual

00:35:40.900 It's not like a team effort, right?

00:35:42.520 You know, you get success in the basketball team is because it's the effort of the team.

00:35:47.700 Yeah.

00:35:47.920 But like, say, track and martial arts, that's because, hey, you know, one day you can't touch your toes.

00:35:54.920 And, you know, years later, you're split and you're doing the splits.

00:35:58.480 But that's the first time I saw you.

00:36:00.660 The splits?

00:36:01.480 Yeah.

00:36:01.700 I was like, you mean the split guy?

00:36:02.940 Yeah.

00:36:04.320 So, yeah.

00:36:07.000 Yeah.

00:36:07.260 So it's about that.

00:36:08.820 Just like the belt levels.

00:36:09.920 you're overcoming things and uh even though of course it's the distraction is like you're a

00:36:15.660 badass but it's about really what you're putting into it did you did you do boxing because i'm

00:36:21.960 curious why you chose uh like martial arts instead of boxing when i was younger i did box okay okay

00:36:27.140 you did i was doing a lot of that at the same time i got yeah a lot at the same time and you know

00:36:31.680 like i said i'm one of the luckiest people on the planet because i train with like some of the best

00:36:36.100 boxers in the world gotcha yeah best trainers you know freddie roach joe goosin um tommy hearns

00:36:43.280 you know my best friend is a guy named frankie lyles he was super middleweight champion wba

00:36:49.320 super middleweight champion for like five years straight so and i did all of his his boxing camp

00:36:54.720 so i was like really infused in boxing and that's how i got to know mike tyson because uh he he was

00:37:00.200 a stable mate of mike tyson ah gotcha yeah so why didn't you pursue a career in combat sports 0.99

00:37:05.900 Because, I mean, like, you're a big fucking dude, man. 0.94

00:37:08.180 Like, if you were thrown in the UFC, how do you think you would do? 0.99

00:37:13.900 Very well.

00:37:14.720 Really?

00:37:15.200 Very well.

00:37:15.840 Because, like, you're not out here with the facade of fighting knowledge.

00:37:20.520 You've been doing it your whole life.

00:37:21.860 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:22.560 I mean, the only thing that would be the unknown with me UFC-wise is a bit of...

00:37:31.960 Wrestling?

00:37:32.940 No, no.

00:37:33.560 I wrestled in college. 1.00

00:37:34.760 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:37:35.280 But it's how well my chin would hold. 0.99

00:37:39.780 I mean, I've been, you know, I've always been pretty good with taking shots and, you know, but I basically, I was a very gifted fighter.

00:37:52.760 Gotcha.

00:37:53.460 And, but it never was, I mean, I always like to test myself.

00:37:58.080 If there was somebody who won a championship somewhere, I would fly to train with that person.

00:38:02.520 to this day i go to train with every great fighter that i possibly can and you know like i say i'm

00:38:09.260 i'm very lucky like all the i've trained with like probably some of the best people like

00:38:14.600 you know uh this guy named bill wallace who was one of my instructors i've trained with him since 0.98

00:38:19.320 i was 17 he was the best kicker ever um and benny orquite yeah your kicks are fucking insane bro 0.89

00:38:25.460 yeah thanks look i have this clip here this is you fighting kimbo this is this is literally one 0.95

00:38:31.680 of my favorite fight scenes

00:38:32.460 of all time.

00:38:33.440 Oh, thanks.

00:38:34.120 Please don't copyright me.

00:38:46.360 This double kick right here. 0.99

00:38:47.800 What the fuck? 1.00

00:38:53.420 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:38:59.560 Damn. 1.00

00:39:00.000 That's fucking crazy 1.00

00:39:03.060 But you know 0.99

00:39:04.800 Like I said

00:39:05.540 I'm trained with some great folks

00:39:08.900 And there's one moment in there

00:39:10.600 That I gotta give thanks to Billy Blanks

00:39:12.920 Of all people

00:39:13.500 Billy Blanks 0.90

00:39:15.440 You know who he is right 1.00

00:39:17.180 The Taibo guy 1.00

00:39:18.280 Hold on I have Google 1.00

00:39:22.260 Billy Blanks I have Google

00:39:24.040 I'm a millennial

00:39:25.100 This guy?

00:39:26.800 American guru

00:39:28.720 yeah so well we used to we used to have sparring uh on on saturdays oh yeah and he you know and so

00:39:36.880 so billy was a point system fighter okay and so i would go and train point system with him right

00:39:42.680 and what you know you know it's kind of like a game of tag almost like you know fencing and so

00:39:47.700 he was like the world champion in that and so i would always like i don't care who if you're a

00:39:51.720 great wrestler i'm gonna go at you with wrestling like so with billy we would do this game of tag

00:39:57.740 thing right and one time uh you know because it's like kind of you're trying to outspeed each other

00:40:02.780 one time my feet came together and i was trying to see if i can get away from his lead punch

00:40:07.020 and he he's he faked it and he swept me right my my legs go up in the air but while i'm in the air

00:40:15.440 he backfist me before i landed that's right and awesome and i you know i i cheered it it was so

00:40:21.920 cool right that i put it in that fight scene it was this one really yeah yeah it was this one right

00:40:27.420 here right yeah well wait this one right we're coming up right here this boom bam but i mean

00:40:38.360 billy didn't do that i kind of added some stuff i did a spinning sweep but because of billy you

00:40:44.100 know swept my feet out and then you know did a back fist before i landed you know it's like

00:40:48.080 you know i loved it you know and it's it's like you're learning things yeah so i mean i've over

00:40:54.040 years like you know i'm trying to i've been trying to you know get to train with like john jones and

00:41:00.320 people like that it's like yeah i love this stuff and i don't mind if i got you know bested or it's

00:41:07.240 not about the ego it's about the experience have you have you trained with john not yet i actually

00:41:12.500 went you know would go down to i was going down to jackson winkle john and every day they say you

00:41:17.740 know he's going to come this day or whatever and we're talking in between each other and it's i

00:41:22.640 know he just never showed up that's interesting yeah i think that dude i i think he's the best

00:41:28.780 fighter to ever enter the ufc he is and he's gotten better he's actually gotten better he he

00:41:33.880 he does like i really have broken him his style down a lot of time and i don't want to sound like

00:41:41.300 i'm you know uh pat myself on the back or anything but a lot of people first when they first saw him

00:41:46.400 they thought we trained together because we have this unusual type of movement um that's why i

00:41:52.920 always wanted to spar with this guy he he has a kind of an untelegraphed type of of movement

00:41:58.300 and you know there's kind of a style i look at is i consider it cheating you know in a certain way

00:42:04.460 you're you're direct to the point yeah and he has and he re he realigns himself in in movement he

00:42:13.480 conor mcgregor there's few people who know how to align themselves during movement and i you know

00:42:20.620 i think you know i always want to know does he realize he's doing that or did he train on i think

00:42:26.080 he's just a natural athlete well i mean he he is you know his brothers are all yeah insane right

00:42:32.320 but yeah like in the nfl i think but he's doing things that i'm like not sure if he i mean

00:42:38.620 you know there's there's stuff that i'm you know i'm a i'm a martial art nerd

00:42:43.000 and you're probably super like technical about everything right like you're you're studying it

00:42:47.400 like a like a test yeah yeah and then there's certain footwork things that i i kind of wonder

00:42:52.200 if he's on top of like i've got you know i'd love i'd love to hey john we know he watches this

00:42:58.440 podcast yo john can you give michael jay white a chance please we know you're watching like and

00:43:03.260 subscribe that'd be fun that'd be so much fun so why didn't you pursue a career in combat

00:43:08.600 at sports it's not worth it it's just i'm sorry bro it's just not worth it i'm there right now

00:43:14.320 i mean i mean you know i i feel like i have a a kinship with um with joe rogan to some degree

00:43:20.600 we're both martial art nerds joe i've seen joe tap like like champions yeah he's a beast right

00:43:29.760 yeah yeah of course yeah definitely uh but it's it's like when when you are you know you know who

00:43:38.440 you are and it's and you know it doesn't it doesn't um require your full attention yeah but

00:43:45.700 you stay around it because you love it yeah and it's and it's about i mean i get a chance to train

00:43:50.780 with like you know rampage and and josh you know josh burnett and all these people anyway and train

00:43:57.760 with them at their facilities yeah and you know with michael bisbing people like that i'm sparring

00:44:03.320 with my you know like these guys are like the best so you know i get a chance to do that anyway

00:44:10.040 so why would i why would i do it um on on camera and devote my life to it and at such a lower 0.91

00:44:21.480 pay rate yeah yeah you know what i mean it's it's it's i mean it's fucking it's dangerous dude like 0.84

00:44:28.320 i like when i was in high school and i was wrestling i was also doing mixed martial arts 0.85

00:44:32.240 and um i wanted to be a ufc fighter i wanted to join the ufc and then i got a little older

00:44:39.000 and a little smarter and like a little more talented and then i was like not only is it

00:44:43.760 like the hollywood creative stuff more fun but i mean like fighting is dangerous it's very

00:44:50.340 dangerous and i'm sorry you don't want to i don't know one former ufc champion whose position i want

00:44:59.400 to trade myself yeah yeah i i happen to you know i i see the you know warts and all and what happens

00:45:07.200 to fighters i know so many fighters that were at the top and you know making millions and all that

00:45:13.040 type of stuff and you don't want to see where they are now right that's not the life that a lot of

00:45:17.940 people i mean you know and sometimes it's you know i i know if i was younger i would have went that

00:45:24.200 route but i know what my capabilities are i'm i'm i'm directing producing i have my own you know

00:45:31.620 studio yeah i'm doing a lot of things that i couldn't have possibly done had i gone that route

00:45:38.060 soldier brain yeah and then like you look at joe rogan right he he's gonna mean more to the world

00:45:43.980 of martial arts doing what he's doing than he ever could have as a fighter right yeah and myself as

00:45:48.820 well so do you think because i have very limited knowledge on this so i i know from the shaolin

00:45:55.280 temple and shaolin kung fu that was brought to shaolin monks not to promote fighting but

00:46:01.120 for protection right yeah well no no i'm gonna i'm gonna make some people angry on this one

00:46:07.580 but it's just the truth okay here we go um the shaolin temple thing okay just just the truth

00:46:15.580 you can you can research this well i mean a guy named don mo brought kung fu and buddhism to china

00:46:22.460 and from you know from india to china basically there's a you know guy about my complexion

00:46:31.740 and uh with the shaolin temple so it wasn't buddha no no no no no no i'm sorry no i mean

00:46:42.020 Did you think there was a fat dude that came over?

00:46:46.360 Well, I knew he wasn't fat.

00:46:47.560 I knew that was misconstrued.

00:46:50.260 Well, yeah, yeah.

00:46:50.880 So, no, it's Bodhidharma or Damo is the guy's name.

00:46:56.380 He brought Kung Fu and, you know, and Buddhism to China.

00:47:02.920 And, you know, there's statues and all that type of stuff of him.

00:47:07.400 You know, he's got nappy hair.

00:47:08.880 Is this him?

00:47:10.040 Or is it Google the wrong image?

00:47:11.580 That's one that most of the real depictions are, you know, he's the Bodhidharma.

00:47:16.340 Yeah, Bodhidharma. Yeah. So. But anyway, how it goes back with the whole Shaolin temple thing.

00:47:24.740 You know, we we in this country had Westerns back in 60s and 70s and all that, even the 50s.

00:47:33.980 um we had western movies and then you know japan had had uh the samurai movies you know a lot of

00:47:41.640 them were the same kind of movie but now when china got into the fray they they fictionalized

00:47:49.260 this whole thing about the shaolin temple and of course now that this and when you see all those

00:47:55.520 shaolin movies it's like that's 400 years ago because it was burned down the temple was burned

00:48:01.260 down back then yeah that's why you always see cowboy movies and the advent of cars and guns

00:48:07.600 and all that type stuff in samurai movies as well but you never see a shaolin monk in a car 0.97

00:48:13.000 you know because they were decimated way back then right so they chose to to make movies about

00:48:22.180 these kind of fictitious uh monks that were you know kind of magical they could have you know

00:48:29.140 chosen the tibetan monks and it would have been very similar uh it's not like they were this

00:48:33.880 amazingly fearsome um force it was about the movies when you saw the movies it made them as

00:48:42.660 unstoppable as wyatt earp you know yeah but um in actuality you have people to this day going

00:48:50.520 and training you know in shaolin temple but the current shaolin temple was it was erected in

00:48:59.020 the 80s like 85 yeah the government came oh really yes oh no and they and they oh no and they paid 0.68

00:49:06.500 they paid farmers to walk around looking like chowlin monks for tourism oh no because they

00:49:11.840 opened china back up right so you hate to see it so yeah i'm sorry about this but then then later

00:49:17.600 then they had guys doing kung fu for tourism and then later they the people the westerners come

00:49:24.960 over there and basically are joining the shaolin temple and they're getting taught and they're

00:49:32.640 spending money and all this stuff and then it's like uh there are people who think that they're

00:49:38.940 they have a lineage with the shaolin temple and it's just like being a knight of the round table

00:49:44.380 right it doesn't hold any legitimacy is that is that jay shetty dude like should we tell jay

00:49:49.260 shetty he's not a real shaolin monk i don't think he claims to be a shaolin monk he was a monk right

00:49:54.400 yeah yeah yeah it's it's are there any are there any specific phonies that you've seen that we

00:49:59.420 should be like well when you think about it if i if a guy came in here and said i'm i'm from the

00:50:03.840 night of the round table i'm a knight of the round table what would you say it's roughly the

00:50:07.960 same exact period i'd be like show me some photos yeah so when you see people are they're connected

00:50:13.960 to the 83 to 85 you know um reconstruction of a replica of the shaolin temple wow so that's where

00:50:25.900 it is because before then it was gone for 300 years well it's interesting how those things

00:50:30.900 kind of happen like the library of alexandria how the romans came in and burned the library

00:50:36.300 of alexandria so it's like the roman history that we've studied and we you know know so much

00:50:42.440 more about we just still don't even know how temp or how uh pyramids were built and there's so many

00:50:48.820 things we don't know it's because these governments and these forces come in and rewrite history yeah

00:50:53.600 and movies are huge movies really like you know people ninja and it's like okay you know a ninja

00:50:59.860 is really just somebody cloaking who they are like a bandit it's not like they're practicing a

00:51:05.760 different art you know it's not like you know i mean so so it's the hollywood movie thing has

00:51:15.000 really colored a lot of people's um impression of sure but you know you think it glorifies fighting

00:51:21.080 of course of course there's a there's a lot of it is is glorified and there's a lot there's not

00:51:26.720 really a lot of traditional true martial artists out there anymore because it's when it became a

00:51:31.440 business the business led you know like i say it should be tantamount to like the armed forces

00:51:38.200 you know there's going to be a lot more you know security guards than there are navy seals because

00:51:44.100 you know it's easier to become a security guard or beat cop or something so it's um how martial

00:51:52.600 arts is i i would say the majority of people who have black belts or would not have black belts way

00:51:59.980 back in the day um back when i was younger you you really had to be pretty darn tough you you

00:52:07.280 had to you've left like teeth on a floor somewhere wow your own and someone else's there's there's

00:52:14.600 usually that was the case you had to it was you know you had to cross the burning sands you gotta

00:52:20.160 rip a limb off to get that black belt honestly what jujitsu is like now is what traditional

00:52:27.140 karate was back in the day you can't just they don't give you just hand you out a black belt

00:52:33.720 in jiu-jitsu that uh that is in essence the uh what martial arts is now you gotta snap limbs

00:52:42.540 well no no no you were you there's nobody gets a black belt in jiu-jitsu that's not humble

00:52:48.740 because you had to become humble there's no attitudes in jiu-jitsu like that i mean because

00:52:54.980 it it it has to adhere to real martial arts principles yeah so that's if you want to think

00:53:01.620 about what martial arts used to be look at jiu-jitsu that's what it's like it's it takes

00:53:06.180 people average like eight to ten years to become a black belt what do you think the most effective

00:53:10.260 martial art is or a form of combat fighting i'd have to ask you what then in what in what

00:53:16.400 circumstance you know because like say if if there's a like if you say you want to compete

00:53:21.920 Yeah

00:53:23.180 You know

00:53:23.860 If you want to do it as a sport

00:53:25.400 Then

00:53:25.780 Let's say you don't want to do it as a sport

00:53:27.820 Like you run up on

00:53:28.840 Yeah you run up on 1.00

00:53:29.820 You just want to kick some ass 1.00

00:53:30.800 Or you want to 1.00

00:53:31.480 You want to go

00:53:31.940 Someone stole your wallet

00:53:33.400 And now it's time to get payback

00:53:34.940 Someone pushes your girlfriend 1.00

00:53:36.900 Now it's time to fuck them up 1.00

00:53:38.340 Well I would have to say 0.99

00:53:40.440 If you could train MMA

00:53:42.920 If there's that

00:53:44.360 That's you know

00:53:45.080 That's

00:53:46.080 That's probably the best thing

00:53:48.100 Yeah

00:53:48.320 Right off

00:53:48.900 But if it was just a traditional martial art

00:53:51.500 i'd go thai boxing uh well yeah i would say thai boxing a little bit before boxing and wrestling

00:54:00.260 what because what's the difference between thai boxing and boxing because you're you're kicking

00:54:04.400 you're using the shin the hips uh elbows you know strikes a strike is going is going to like

00:54:12.100 be to the point like yeah it's it's it's within a fraction of a second it's not some kind of

00:54:17.460 maneuver yeah that you have to learn yeah so you know that that's what i would say i would say

00:54:22.300 thai boxing then uh western boxing then wrestling what about jeet kundo from you don't think that's

00:54:29.200 that makes any what is jeet kundo that's uh it's um bruce lee's yeah yeah intercepting the fist

00:54:36.620 how possible is that well exactly see we just just think about that the term intercepting fist

00:54:44.420 okay when you want to test something test it against itself okay bruce lee is fighting bruce

00:54:49.360 lee whose fist is he going to intercept his own no no no he won't he can't no he can't the first

00:54:58.900 the first person who moves is gonna i mean bruce lee would not he's fast but would he be able to

00:55:04.320 intercept his own fist but he can intercept somebody slower than him that's like having a

00:55:09.840 Mike Tyson style of boxing, which means I'll just hit you way harder 0.93

00:55:13.460 than you hit me. 0.96

00:55:14.480 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:55:14.940 What the fuck? 1.00

00:55:15.420 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:55:15.920 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:55:17.660 You know what I mean?

00:55:17.900 That was amazing.

00:55:18.860 But, you know, so it's like that's not, you know,

00:55:22.780 that's not a style to base anything on.

00:55:24.780 You hit people harder.

00:55:26.220 You know what I mean?

00:55:27.080 That's different.

00:55:27.680 You can get away with things that other people can't.

00:55:29.640 Bruce Lee Speed or whatever.

00:55:30.820 And, you know, he's the greatest martial artist who ever lived

00:55:34.160 because, I mean, he, you know, he was always trying to perfect himself.

00:55:38.780 and uh you know he wasn't a real fighter he didn't test himself in the ring uh that's why

00:55:45.020 you know one of the things i make the distinction because my heart goes out to real fighters people

00:55:49.180 who feed their family and they go through it yeah yeah i'm sorry even myself anybody that does

00:55:56.680 movies we don't get a chance to say that we don't get a chance to say oh we're better fighters or

00:56:02.620 whatever when there are people out there who are fighting you know and they're they're fighting and

00:56:07.660 bleeding and they're they're you know they have to go through stuff that that's harrowing yeah you

00:56:13.700 know i even i even you know i even you know to be honest question myself if i was not uh particularly

00:56:22.120 talented which i you know i have a i i'm i was always as fast as a lightweight but at like a

00:56:30.640 heavyweight but yeah but you know i'm a heavyweight yeah but i was faster than a lot of lightweights

00:56:34.980 that's one of those things that you know i was just blessed with like you know ali's blessed

00:56:39.360 with that and you know you think about ali he's the biggest dude in the ring you people forget

00:56:43.700 about that but had i not had this kind of um advantage uh if if i don't know if i would be in

00:56:54.720 it if people hit me the way i hit them yeah so i don't know you know so that's the thing where i

00:57:00.800 say man would i still be would i be in it like that if i didn't have this on you know this

00:57:06.380 somewhat uh extra advantage yeah you know and so andy ruiz did you see the andy ruiz uh yes 0.97

00:57:14.260 anthony joshua yes that dude's got some quick fucking hands and when you say that it pop

00:57:18.800 because yeah he's a heavyweight and he's moving like a super flyweight right yeah yeah hey there's 0.95

00:57:23.980 a lot of big muscular guys don't move as well as as you know a fatter guy it was so weird you know

00:57:30.000 he probably wouldn't be doing it either if his hands were

00:57:33.000 quick yeah yeah yeah

00:57:34.540 he's got speed he's got really

00:57:37.020 good impact power he's like the short

00:57:39.120 distance yeah and then

00:57:40.760 you know and I think he's a real fighter

00:57:42.660 this is uh this is one of my

00:57:45.080 favorite scenes that you've ever done

00:57:46.880 from uh The Dark Knight

00:57:48.860 I thought my job's bad 0.94

00:57:58.540 Give me one reason why I shouldn't have my boy here pull your head off 1.00

00:58:01.820 How about a magic trick

00:58:03.140 I don't know if we can show this on YouTube

00:58:06.720 Disappear

00:58:09.080 Not like that

00:58:12.960 Ouch

00:58:14.000 Yo what was it like working with Heath Ledger

00:58:17.040 Oh man that dude was so freaking cool

00:58:19.040 Did he break character

00:58:21.260 No

00:58:21.940 He always broke character

00:58:23.600 Uncut

00:58:25.840 he was just we were like doing magic tricks not that kind of magic trick but but but like we were

00:58:31.460 like because i was i was like i'm kind of a closet magician you know yeah you know when my girls are

00:58:39.200 you know growing up i basically would come home and have a whole bag of tricks for him like

00:58:44.860 slider hand and all that type stuff but he was you know was doing stuff like that as well we would do

00:58:50.480 all these games and clown around and even when you you know kind of leave try to leave him alone to

00:58:55.420 his own piece i mean you know he's the one that you know would spark the conversation yeah stuff

00:59:00.700 and so he was just real cool like that he's just and and one of the things i always talk about like

00:59:06.700 he like when he was doing the thing about you know why so serious with me he's asking me my opinion

00:59:12.700 like he would try different voice modulations and stuff and there's one that he did that was

00:59:18.000 very much like tom waits like that kind of thing and i was like yeah when you did that one man that

00:59:23.900 made me feel you know feel a little like yeah what's up with this dude yeah he's like you think

00:59:27.240 so yeah and he you know he would do that when interesting so there was never any signs that

00:59:32.540 that his health his mental health was he was remember he he that happened when he was on

00:59:41.340 another the next movie it was another movie it wasn't this one people just there's a yeah there's

00:59:46.820 kind of a narrative because he's doing a dark character that people want to think that he has

00:59:51.340 something to do with that no no and actually he made a mistake that a lot of people make

00:59:55.800 you you know you get you build up your tolerance for sleeping aids right and then you get injured

01:00:01.880 you don't realize that that injury uh the medication for that injury is doubled what

01:00:09.560 your sleeping aid is you know so that's a mistake that a lot of people will make and i think he made

01:00:15.100 that mistake uh i almost made that mistake one time because you know i mean and i i basically

01:00:20.860 take nothing you know I barely take aspirins I've never I've never drank I've never been drunk or

01:00:26.940 high in my life not a day another one wow another one that's crazy we've had like five people say

01:00:33.300 that I just never did it I just and it never even called to me so interesting what I want to I want

01:00:40.580 to talk about Heathmore but like well why is that why is why have you never uh been drunk or or high 0.75

01:00:47.040 Because I think I'm crazy inside, and I wouldn't want to do the shit that came in my mind when I was younger. 0.95

01:00:53.160 There's no curiosity to try? 0.99

01:00:55.060 No, no.

01:00:55.420 I felt like I've seen so many people just they're not here anymore because they were impaired at the wrong time.

01:01:03.960 Like when I told you some stuff about my past, I've seen a lot.

01:01:09.480 Yeah.

01:01:09.780 Yeah, I've been close to, man, there's so many things that I can draw from where I know people are not here today because they were half a second too slow.

01:01:22.780 Wow. And I had that, you know, that mercurial, that volatile thing in me that I felt like I'm barely keeping it under control myself.

01:01:34.520 if I did something or drank something, you know, you know,

01:01:39.780 I think I wouldn't be around.

01:01:42.520 But then you got people like Mike, who is on a yacht right now,

01:01:46.280 living it up.

01:01:48.400 We have a host who's normally here.

01:01:51.240 He's a bit of a wild card.

01:01:53.420 He's a real firecracker.

01:01:56.340 Yeah.

01:01:56.560 You know, hey, bless him.

01:01:59.080 I don't judge folks.

01:02:01.240 I just know for me, it wasn't right for me.

01:02:04.120 And you know what?

01:02:05.500 I found out, like, a few years ago, because my wife and I were in, I forgot what it was, vacation parts in Mexico. 0.98

01:02:13.500 And I tried to, I tasted one of those damn, what, margarita. 0.97

01:02:19.380 Yeah, margarita. 0.99

01:02:20.860 That's a drink.

01:02:21.620 That's a thing.

01:02:21.940 And instantly, like, I probably took about three sips, and my throat started to close up.

01:02:28.740 Oh, no.

01:02:29.720 Yeah, and so, yeah, I have an allergy to it.

01:02:32.700 And it's like, I think just, I sensed that there was, you know,

01:02:37.060 there's a reason why I don't do that.

01:02:39.060 Why'd you, uh, why'd you take three sips?

01:02:40.500 I'm curious about what about that day did you decide to?

01:02:44.480 Yeah, we were our last day of vacation and, you know,

01:02:47.320 and I've tasted some alcohol things before.

01:02:50.540 I've never drank, I've never been drunk or anything.

01:02:52.440 I've tasted some stuff to know that I don't like this stuff.

01:02:55.980 I just don't like it.

01:02:57.700 Alcohol is horrible.

01:02:59.120 You know, you have a real problem when you think it tastes good.

01:03:01.540 yeah all i hear people say that i'm like are you hot if you're you're drinking gasoline yeah i'm

01:03:06.520 always i'm always asking people like what what what's good about this like what is it i mean

01:03:12.060 hey but you know and a lot of people you know admit that is for the buzz now for me for blowing

01:03:18.460 off steam any kind of alteration in you know in my mind like i'm i freak out oh probably because

01:03:27.780 i had a little bit of an effect when i was 15 and i think i you know could have been killed

01:03:34.700 that's probably like what do you mean you had an effect yeah well i was in a i was in a boy

01:03:40.820 i'm just gonna i don't know but you got kids michael okay but you are on impulsive i was

01:03:47.120 i was in anybody who knows this project housing called father panic village

01:03:52.180 in bridgeport connecticut was one of the most dangerous places you could be in the united states

01:03:57.580 Couldn't have they named it something better than Father Panic Village?

01:04:01.520 Father Panic Village.

01:04:01.920 Honestly, that's the name of it.

01:04:03.940 Wow.

01:04:04.320 Cops would respond an hour later to calls going there.

01:04:09.120 Oh, yeah.

01:04:09.480 Seriously.

01:04:10.780 I'm in this house party in Father Panic Village,

01:04:16.000 and I'm sipping on this punch,

01:04:18.900 and I'm thinking it tastes nasty because I had this ice cream cake, right,

01:04:23.700 that I was eating on.

01:04:24.500 I was like, it's bitter.

01:04:25.620 Yep. 0.93

01:04:25.780 uh and then i'm dancing and you know later on and i this chandelier is like fake ass chandelier

01:04:33.580 i run into it and then i think nothing about it and i just snatch it out of the ceiling

01:04:38.520 it's dangling like a foot from the floor and i just keep dancing and so people like what are

01:04:44.200 you doing what the hell is and i'm like hey man the thing hit me in the head i mean i'm thinking

01:04:47.620 this is absolutely rational so you know then there's like oh you drank too much of that punch 0.50

01:04:52.880 I'm like, the punch?

01:04:54.220 What's wrong with the punch?

01:04:55.140 And then somebody to my left, up against the wall, goes,

01:05:00.040 there's grain alcohol in that punch.

01:05:01.500 Oh, no. 0.94

01:05:02.080 I thought nothing of, I turned, punched him in the head. 0.99

01:05:06.640 His head hit the back wall. 0.99

01:05:08.500 He's out.

01:05:09.780 Because I didn't know what grain alcohol was.

01:05:11.760 So why'd you punch him?

01:05:12.860 Because I know it says alcohol in the bathroom,

01:05:16.820 and it says harmful and swallowed, and I don't know.

01:05:19.280 So you punched the dude who told you?

01:05:21.040 Yeah.

01:05:21.360 that means he knew and he let me drink it so i just he had to get some all right so it's like

01:05:27.460 and so then the next thing i'm fighting with everybody in the house and i'm going backwards

01:05:32.740 out the house and people are swinging things at me and everything was that the clip we watched

01:05:36.540 earlier was that the actual live footage from what happened the day you drank did you use the

01:05:42.600 chandelier no no the chandelier was still dangling i'm fighting people going out of the house and i

01:05:47.300 go outside right and this is this is the hood this is i'm out front and there's this it was 0.87

01:05:52.880 just rubble and glass and all this stuff now i'm outside i'm like holy shit am i drunk am i drunk

01:05:58.360 and so i'm going through my own sobriety test and i'm like okay i'm i could do this i could walk

01:06:03.140 i could walk the line and then i'm like okay let me start seeing if i can function and do i was

01:06:09.380 doing katas which are like martial art movements and stuff just alone so yeah so i'm out there

01:06:14.400 practicing contests now meanwhile and this was told to me later that meanwhile people are grabbing

01:06:20.260 hammers and and forks and knives everything trying to posse up to come get me and then they see me

01:06:27.160 out of the window somebody goes he's right there and everybody just watched me from the window 0.98

01:06:34.180 while i'm doing these contests and they're like fuck that yeah he's getting ready for us yeah we 0.94

01:06:39.540 out mind you i'm just seeing if i can function because now i'm paranoid i'm like oh i've never 0.97

01:06:46.480 been you know altered so so like i could have been killed so yeah that definitely has an effect i see

01:06:54.180 what you're saying now yeah probably yeah i got legendary status after that and because that that

01:06:59.460 became that became the story of me like you know you know ready to fight you know a house full of

01:07:05.600 people and that back down like who's this crazy guy doing jujitsu in the yard yeah that was you

01:07:11.640 yeah well you did just rip a chandelier out and punch timmy in the face so that's like that's

01:07:17.160 like ah so later on in college things like that i'm like no i shouldn't drink anything because 0.97

01:07:22.420 i don't know what damn that's mad that's mad your liver's probably super happy right now 0.80

01:07:25.960 your liver's probably super happy right oh yeah yeah i think um you know it makes you age too 0.99

01:07:32.060 i've kind of seen folks who drank and they kind of you don't really have any grade going on you're

01:07:37.220 looking you're looking clean thanks just for me yeah you're looking fresh uh but yeah so all right

01:07:45.260 so rerouting back to uh heath ledger in the dark knight and um i want to know what working with

01:07:50.380 christopher nolan was like and how he was because he's actually he's my favorite director he's cool

01:07:55.300 as hell he's cool he's he's like so damn cool that it's it's shocking i'm i you know i see his

01:08:01.540 movies and i'm thinking oh this guy is probably like this eccentric yeah like you know brilliant

01:08:06.780 dude like i'm you know i'm i'm doing the scene in the pool pool right and i'm like you know

01:08:14.760 asking us excuse me uh well you know my my guys uh you do you want us to feel like we were here

01:08:21.800 like for 10 minutes or are we here for like an hour before he's like you know what i don't know

01:08:27.140 what do you think i'm like i don't know we could try both ways he said yeah yeah we'll try both

01:08:31.960 ways and i'm like great and then i said uh and you know i don't know if it's odd to you but you

01:08:37.620 know my all my my guys are they're english they have british accents but i'm i have an american

01:08:43.620 accent do you want us to sound the same do you want me to speak it's like i hadn't thought about

01:08:49.980 that and i was like really seriously no way you know we had believe me we had more dialogue there's

01:08:56.040 a lot more stuff that was cut out but it it was one of these things where i mean it was so chill

01:09:02.200 that whole that's crazy i even had um there was a guy wally was a dp and you know uh somebody i

01:09:10.640 showed i was coming out with that black dynamite thing right and i had some you know some silly

01:09:15.700 clips of black dynamite and i showed one person and they showed the next person and they you know

01:09:20.160 showing wally and then wally's showing christopher just as he was like okay let's get ready oh

01:09:25.700 And then everything stops and everybody's goofing off of the clips I had

01:09:31.220 from Black Dynamite.

01:09:32.160 And it's like, you know, we're clowning around for like an extra half hour.

01:09:35.360 I'm like, this is like the coolest.

01:09:37.420 Yo, I would never have guessed that.

01:09:40.980 No, man, he got to be the, that had to be almost relaxing.

01:09:44.480 Christopher Nolan, don't hate me.

01:09:46.000 Maybe that was a horrible comparison.

01:09:47.620 No, that dude is cool as hell.

01:09:51.000 He is just chill.

01:09:52.080 i mean i never seen a moment of any tension on that set that's great and maybe that's why the

01:09:58.620 the movies are so successful i it surprises me that he hadn't thought about things like what

01:10:04.340 accents you'd have or because a lot of directors are really into character development like

01:10:10.160 quentin tarantino that's literally the only thing he cares about well yeah i've you know i've worked

01:10:15.040 work with Quentin, but you know, on the, uh, the, uh, edited out footage.

01:10:20.800 Ah, I've been in a movie.

01:10:22.740 Oh, for real?

01:10:24.520 Yeah.

01:10:24.760 If you, if you see deleted footage, I'm the only deleted footage.

01:10:28.600 What's good, Quentin? 0.99

01:10:30.540 Damn. 0.99

01:10:30.980 What's good? 0.99

01:10:31.580 I really hate to see that. 0.98

01:10:32.540 That sucks, dude. 0.98

01:10:33.100 Yeah. 0.99

01:10:33.480 It's, it's, it's, it's cool.

01:10:34.860 It was, I had a bigger role.

01:10:37.540 Uh, there was a, there's a big segment that was, that was, uh, it was supposed to be

01:10:41.440 myself sam jackson sam jackson's what uh natasha richardson um and it it was a segment called

01:10:49.000 house of blue leaves and that's when you would first see uh the the bill character and it was

01:10:55.800 supposed to be in this casino setting and we're going to shoot that in china and everything but

01:11:00.940 then quentin had the idea to shoot the massacre at the church which is a better idea for the you

01:11:08.860 know the you know seeing the bill character and you know he was he was apologetic he's like mike

01:11:14.820 you know i just thought i was like quentin i knew him as a friend before even working with him

01:11:19.940 anyway like uh so it was like i mean i didn't take that personal you know i was like hey that makes

01:11:26.620 oh dad's calling gp you ought to know you bought it what's going on i don't know but then he wanted

01:11:36.880 me to come out and then do a part of the scene and in a flashback type of sequence see where

01:11:44.180 you were her enemy um kind of bill's enemy was that yeah is he is he is he into that character

01:11:52.720 development because i heard he sits with his actors for extensive extensive periods of time

01:11:57.140 to make sure they're fleshed out inside and out you know it wasn't my experience in that situation

01:12:04.540 But talk about something that comes full circle, but when I, in the deleted footage, I mentioned Damo, which Quentin, you know, he's a historian, and I'm mentioning the Damo, and I'm leading a pack of Chinese guys, and so it's a harken back to Bodhidama or Damo.

01:12:29.300 That's cool.

01:12:29.820 And that's the character I'm playing.

01:12:31.600 That's awesome.

01:12:32.140 So, you know, that's a little little history thing that just kind of all connects.

01:12:36.460 Yeah. Comes full circle. When you do these fight scenes in movies.

01:12:41.100 Are you playing to camera? Because I've seen a lot of fighters.

01:12:44.640 I remember like George St. Pierre did a fight scene once and I forget what movie it was.

01:12:48.720 And Ronda Rousey has had her debut in movies and they're definitely good.

01:12:55.680 um but it didn't come across like some of the actors like tom hardy for example who like when

01:13:03.740 when he does his fight scenes something about the way he moves and you you do this too it looks so

01:13:09.980 much better if i'm being honest so is this is are you what's the translation between being a real

01:13:17.860 fighter and an actor fighter and how do you make it still look good as opposed to some real

01:13:23.640 fighters who are actually in the octagon who aren't doing as good as of a job well yeah there's

01:13:29.300 there's a couple of things one of the things that a lot of real fighters um they're they're

01:13:35.280 they're famous by by way of their blood and guts and effectiveness sometimes you know you got a guy

01:13:42.460 who can who can withstand a lot of a lot of punishment that doesn't that doesn't show well

01:13:49.360 on screen you know it's not what it's more about the technique now you got you got to have good

01:13:55.680 choreography because you could have a great fighter and have terrible choreography there's

01:13:59.680 there's some jet lee movies where you know the way that they would shoot it uh the cinematography is

01:14:05.640 not good and he's you know he's one of the most talented martial artists there are so you know

01:14:10.800 these elements have to kind of play but on top of it why tom hardy's so good is because he's acting

01:14:18.500 throughout the fight a lot of people become automatons when they fight you you know a lot

01:14:24.800 even martial artists they get into that that and people are trying to do bruce lee you know and

01:14:35.340 doing all that kind of craziness and it's like who who is the character like if you got if you

01:14:40.740 got basically uh imagine you got uh robert de niro who's like this gruff character or um

01:14:48.700 christopher walken who's unpredictable and jack nicholson whatever and but when they fight

01:14:55.160 they're doing choreography but imagine if they fought with the characters they're playing like

01:15:00.320 imagine a christopher walken fighting style you see what i mean so if you you choreograph for

01:15:06.920 character and you stay within the character now it's really interesting like you know ollie fraser

01:15:12.020 you know you've got two personalities now it's interesting not just people doing movement yep

01:15:17.320 so you know someone like tom hardy and myself my thing is like i want to be able to i want to

01:15:23.740 show the acting through the action very cool yeah some people just don't learn don't learn how to do

01:15:30.260 that yeah i love that i feel like i feel like because i've had i've had some fight scenes too

01:15:34.280 And I was really excited to do them.

01:15:37.040 And I still, to this day, love doing fight scenes.

01:15:38.880 But when I saw them, I was like, it is definitely an art, like, that transition from, like, being a real fighter and knowing how to move and fight someone in real life and then looking good on screen. 0.91

01:15:49.100 You have to open the camera and all that shit.

01:15:51.260 Is that frustrating? 0.99

01:15:52.960 No, no.

01:15:53.300 I understand it a great deal.

01:15:55.220 What's frustrating is, like, man, it's like kind of, there's a Fred Astaire reference. 0.83

01:16:00.140 Fred Astaire, you shoot him.

01:16:01.480 You know who Fred Astaire is? 0.97

01:16:02.520 I'm talking about all the.

01:16:03.580 No, no, Dylan knows.

01:16:05.060 Or like, say, Michael Jackson.

01:16:06.320 There's a Michael Jackson there.

01:16:07.540 You see his full frame, and there's the beauty.

01:16:10.620 But if you cut it up, you're seeing his face and then showing his feet and all that.

01:16:14.820 You miss it, right?

01:16:16.220 So if you're an exceptional mover, you want to see that whole movement.

01:16:20.240 So a lot of, like, fight scenes are kind of created in an editing room.

01:16:26.520 and so I you know there's times where I could do a one-er uh like when I'm fighting four people

01:16:33.660 in one continuous thing and then some asshole editor will shoot like you know we'll break that 0.82

01:16:43.420 up yeah yeah and show somebody going you know what I mean and then another person going yeah 0.98

01:16:50.640 yeah like in the middle of it you know and it's like yo what are you doing yeah or or some kind

01:16:55.460 insert so you're you're you're kind of stuck between how they're going to edit the thing

01:17:00.120 and so you know it's got those elements all have to be yeah yeah you got i mean it's it you got to

01:17:07.320 trust right you got to trust that like the director editor will do a good job and sometimes that's 0.86

01:17:11.920 when i you know reserve my asshole card and say okay there's no not going to be a b camera on 0.95

01:17:17.780 here oh you'll do that oh yeah buddy wow man because it's just like wow i mean because there's 0.98

01:17:23.640 a there's a camera operator that's there and they they want something to do and it's like nope you're

01:17:29.540 not gonna threaten this this fight scene the integrity of the fight scene by shooting something

01:17:34.440 that some editor yep might use yep so that's because because by the way they always will

01:17:40.080 they always will they'll use the shot that you told them not to or they agreed not to or you

01:17:44.460 don't want them to my favorite thing to do and like pay attention to this one you watch fight 0.99

01:17:49.180 scenes from now on with multiple people watch the people in the background this shit is hope 0.94

01:17:55.040 they're just standing there and be like i don't know we're just start moving just to like fill 0.77

01:18:00.020 the space and create motion and actually i love you christopher nolan but he did it in a couple

01:18:05.420 scenes in the dark night and i like i think one dude got like hit by literally nothing and like

01:18:10.620 fell down i was like no not like this yeah you can't really redo redo those if you got a super

01:18:16.760 good fight scene on your hands right right right there's ways to get around that but you know it's

01:18:21.200 uh you know that's probably on the third watching of something hopefully yeah you know yeah you know

01:18:27.920 you see that the first time yeah exactly i didn't see the first time you got you got lucky um so

01:18:32.120 you did the voice for green lantern in the video game and have they had conversations with you to

01:18:36.260 play the live action john stewart this is horrible i did shoot oh no you know yeah i i think i did

01:18:45.740 like it's it's weird like especially with voice stuff you go in there and the way i you know i'm

01:18:52.260 just like oh wait what i'm doing tuesday because it's one one day right like years later it comes

01:18:57.520 out and i forgot i did it yeah that happens all the time with voiceover yeah because i'm like

01:19:03.180 did i do and i had to go i had to go back and i'm like yeah yeah i believe i did he goes this is

01:19:10.960 horrible wow well vo vo is quick like you stand in the booth like i'm sure you probably record

01:19:17.080 it for a day or two yeah yeah and then it comes out and they you talking all day has led to like

01:19:22.240 a full storyline in a video game yeah there's i just recently did some uh some uh oh what was it

01:19:31.620 well it looks like looks like we're stuck again i'm i'm whatever i just did a whole i hit did a

01:19:37.580 whole voice thing cartoon that's going to be you know they're like all right so in 2000

01:19:44.520 2021 we're gonna do this and i'm like i'm already forgetting who you are and everything about this

01:19:52.960 i'm not even going to think that i'm going to remember you guys will call me up and somebody's

01:19:57.100 going to have to explain to me what this is so all right so that makes me curious how many of

01:20:02.120 your projects are you like truly like invested in or are you just going there because you know

01:20:06.820 you're perfect for the role or the voiceover perhaps well you know i got my own projects

01:20:11.060 that i'm really invested in but you know there's there's um there's other like yeah there's other

01:20:18.080 things that it's like i you know i'm just i'm in the rear view and it's like i i do it to my

01:20:25.660 best ability yeah for sure but then once it's done i just i don't even think about it yeah

01:20:30.200 yeah um what what are you working on now next projects well i got a few things coming out i

01:20:35.380 got a movie called send it um send it send it it's about kiteboarding we always do we're about 0.93

01:20:40.380 that and then um undercover brother too shut the fuck up impossible oh my god what's going on yo 0.55

01:20:53.840 yeah that is one of my favorite movies really of all time undercover brother i quote it all the 0.83

01:21:01.700 time it's one of those movies that i think i saw like at my cabin it was like stowed away and like

01:21:06.740 a little uh vcr and i put it in i watched it and then i thought it was so funny um i i man i quote 0.99

01:21:13.560 that movie all the time undercover brother too are who's the undercover brother me shut the fuck

01:21:19.660 up what an honor thanks man what an honor when is that coming out well now i'm nervous man it's

01:21:25.640 I was like, you're one of your favorite movies.

01:21:27.060 And I was just like, oh, man.

01:21:28.200 Yo, this movie.

01:21:29.120 Spencer pulled up the...

01:21:30.320 Oh, my God.

01:21:31.560 Is Dave making an appearance?

01:21:32.740 Is Dave Chappelle in it?

01:21:33.400 No, no.

01:21:34.360 He's not in it.

01:21:37.600 Yo, I'm legitimately obsessed with this movie.

01:21:40.980 This shaped a lot of my childhood.

01:21:44.320 Undercover Brother.

01:21:46.080 Solid.

01:21:46.720 Yeah, exactly. 0.96

01:21:48.020 I was going to say, is that Denise Richards? 1.00

01:21:49.700 Yeah, well, Denise Richards is in the Send It movie.

01:21:52.960 Really?

01:21:53.560 Yeah, yeah.

01:21:54.020 So I was like...

01:21:54.860 Does she still look like that?

01:21:56.760 I, not quite.

01:21:58.480 Nobody still looks like that.

01:22:00.300 Time has passed.

01:22:01.660 Yo, I've taken so much comedy from this movie.

01:22:04.240 Like, man, I feel like I'm going to make references.

01:22:07.280 Just no one's going to know. 0.71

01:22:08.240 There's a scene where like the two girls are fighting 0.96

01:22:09.920 and then it turns into this like super hot fight scene

01:22:12.900 and like the two guys were supposed to be enemies

01:22:14.460 like start taking out popcorns.

01:22:16.280 They bring like recliners in and like sit back.

01:22:18.860 Man, I love a good comedy.

01:22:20.420 I love an old classic comedy.

01:22:22.260 All right, so I'm excited for that, obviously.

01:22:24.180 Yeah.

01:22:24.300 What else?

01:22:25.760 Well, you know.

01:22:26.440 I'm off the hook about Green Lantern.

01:22:28.680 Are you playing Green Lantern?

01:22:30.680 No.

01:22:31.300 In the live action?

01:22:32.660 Is that happening?

01:22:33.900 Ryan Reynolds killed it.

01:22:35.320 Now it's done, man.

01:22:36.360 John Stewart, though.

01:22:37.820 John Stewart.

01:22:39.320 Hey, I mean, I haven't talked to anybody about that.

01:22:42.860 Hey, I wouldn't mind. 1.00

01:22:45.160 You'd probably fucking kill it. 0.99

01:22:47.020 Yeah, I'm getting ready to do some more, like, action stuff. 0.99

01:22:51.360 i'm actually i'm gonna trim down like 10 pounds and oh for real get ready i'm doing what are you

01:22:57.340 at right now i'm about 230 okay i guess i'm gonna try to get down to 210 um damn close to

01:23:05.220 what's your diet like um well now it's gonna be pretty much uh you know low carbs and i when i

01:23:15.760 really try to trim down it's more liquid i'm just gonna be like a lot of shakes and juices like

01:23:21.360 Do you get angry when you're cutting, per se?

01:23:24.620 No, no.

01:23:25.340 You don't?

01:23:26.400 Not at all.

01:23:27.200 I get pissed.

01:23:28.500 I get livid.

01:23:30.280 You shouldn't be hungry.

01:23:31.960 Oh.

01:23:32.600 You shouldn't be hungry.

01:23:33.860 That's a sign that something might be a little wrong,

01:23:37.720 because you should be steadily two and a half hours,

01:23:41.660 three hours, that type of thing.

01:23:42.640 Really?

01:23:43.260 You should be cussing out some of your meals.

01:23:46.360 Like, I don't want to eat right now.

01:23:48.640 Really?

01:23:49.340 Yeah, man, because we'll talk about that.

01:23:51.360 Yo, for real, we should train some time.

01:23:54.560 You're right down the street, bro.

01:23:55.860 Yeah, and we box every day, so come by.

01:23:57.740 Every day?

01:23:59.260 Five, six days a week, yeah.

01:24:00.560 Cool.

01:24:01.040 Yeah, you know, there's a few things.

01:24:02.720 You know, like I said, I'm a nerd with it.

01:24:05.180 Tight.

01:24:05.540 So there's a few things I would love to kind of show you.

01:24:09.820 I'm sparring next Tuesday, I think.

01:24:12.140 You should come watch and just critique and see if I can improve in any way

01:24:17.160 because, yeah, you are the expert, man.

01:24:19.200 Well, yeah, I'm a nerd with it.

01:24:20.480 I'm a nerd.

01:24:21.340 But, you know, respect to your coach, though.

01:24:23.980 You know, with his blessing.

01:24:26.580 No, no, he said.

01:24:27.760 He's like, I'm sure he could teach you some things.

01:24:29.940 I bet you could.

01:24:31.860 Got a fight coming up, so got to add everything you can to your RCA. 0.87

01:24:34.400 Oh, is that the KSI?

01:24:36.760 TSA?

01:24:37.620 TSA.

01:24:38.020 Yeah, what was it?

01:24:38.460 TSA.

01:24:38.740 TSA Pre-Trick.

01:24:39.400 Yeah, Casey.

01:24:40.360 Casey.

01:24:40.560 Pounds for square inch.

01:24:41.560 Yeah, which is that?

01:24:43.080 KSI?

01:24:43.700 No, it's KSI.

01:24:44.900 We're trying to figure it out, man.

01:24:46.760 Kissy.

01:24:47.280 Browns KSI.

01:24:47.960 Okay.

01:24:48.900 Yeah, well, you know, I guess what's up?

01:24:50.480 you know

01:24:50.880 like

01:24:51.300 I don't know

01:24:52.260 what you just said man

01:24:53.080 I have no idea

01:24:55.640 what you just said

01:24:56.220 it's just

01:24:56.980 you know

01:24:57.340 you don't even have to know

01:24:58.300 cause if I go

01:24:59.340 you just cast a spell

01:25:02.180 you know

01:25:02.380 it's like

01:25:02.700 you don't care

01:25:03.660 so I understood

01:25:06.120 so you get it

01:25:06.760 you get it

01:25:07.160 that's what

01:25:07.840 that's what that means

01:25:08.580 alright

01:25:09.540 we get it now

01:25:10.340 yo let's do it

01:25:11.300 let's do the audio only right now

01:25:12.620 it's on Spotify and iTunes

01:25:13.600 same as this

01:25:14.160 but guess what

01:25:14.640 it's audio only

01:25:15.320 we're gonna get

01:25:15.840 a little deeper

01:25:16.840 won't take long

01:25:17.660 but yeah

01:25:18.000 I wanna ask Michael J. White

01:25:19.140 a few more questions

01:25:20.040 about his life.

01:25:20.620 Bro, thank you for coming on Impulse.

01:25:22.360 Hey, thank you, man.

01:25:23.460 Where can they find you on social media?

01:25:25.260 Oh, official Michael Jai on Instagram

01:25:28.700 and then that number sign Michael Jai White

01:25:31.800 on everything else.

01:25:32.700 That makes sense.

01:25:33.380 Yeah.

01:25:33.760 Here we go.

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01:25:38.260 Take it easy.

01:25:39.080 Peace.

01:25:40.140 Here we are.

01:25:40.880 Audio only.

01:25:41.580 Still here.

01:25:42.240 Can't believe it.

01:25:42.840 What do you have pulled up here?

01:25:43.680 Do you have facts?

01:25:44.320 I did, but I'll save them.

01:25:45.960 Should I save them?

01:25:46.780 I think we should do a couple.

01:25:47.940 We do this segment called Facts

01:25:50.300 Facts

01:25:51.780 Spencer here has some facts

01:25:53.700 What you got Spence

01:25:55.600 KFC unleashes

01:25:58.780 A Cheetos chicken sandwich

01:26:00.680 What do you guys have to say about this

01:26:02.360 They've infused Cheetos now

01:26:04.880 Into their chicken sandwiches

01:26:06.540 Is their cook

01:26:09.060 Named Beelzebub

01:26:10.400 Is it

01:26:12.620 Beelzebub

01:26:14.080 Satan

01:26:15.240 they don't care anymore man they don't care that's sad a lot of people throw on these 1.00

01:26:22.900 burgers what the fuck is this like we do not like you oh my god are you ever eating fast food 0.99

01:26:29.720 oh yes i i can get creative with it depending on where can you get this creative hell no 0.99

01:26:34.980 what is come on i have the worst news i have to try it i am so sorry well you're young enough

01:26:42.080 you know i'm i'm i'm gonna i'd pay for like two days for that this looks like death yeah i'm

01:26:47.420 staring Satan no food that's not food i i think it's it's so interesting to me how these things

01:26:53.360 are legal you know like i think at some point we're gonna look back and be like damn we actually

01:26:58.480 invented that that happened good propaganda though for it people people are gonna eat it

01:27:04.200 people love cheetos yeah look at that i mean you look at that for two seconds you're about to eat

01:27:07.740 10 of them what kind of fast food do you eat like are you a shake shake shake or in and out kind of

01:27:11.420 guy uh neither i'm kind of like i go to freaking whole foods i'm boring man that's not a fast food

01:27:20.980 it kind of you know going in a deli part oh well fast food like oh oh um alpollo loco

01:27:27.000 okay you what you're the first person i i make jokes about alpollo loco i don't know i've never

01:27:35.520 been there but really i just thought no one would it's no it's real chicken it's good really

01:27:40.520 People go

01:27:41.780 I have tourists come here

01:27:44.020 Friends from like Ohio

01:27:45.320 Where I'm from

01:27:45.820 They're like 0.82

01:27:46.020 What is El Polo Loco

01:27:47.560 I'm like

01:27:47.960 It's like

01:27:48.300 I say verbatim

01:27:49.380 I go

01:27:49.600 It's like a cheap Taco Bell

01:27:50.920 Am I mistaken

01:27:52.100 Yeah

01:27:53.240 You're terribly mistaken

01:27:54.300 I think it's like

01:27:55.140 Higher class

01:27:56.220 I think it's like

01:27:57.180 The scale up

01:27:58.040 Flame grilled corn

01:27:58.920 Dang

01:27:59.680 What's that?

01:28:02.220 Oh yeah

01:28:02.460 What about Chick-fil-A

01:28:03.140 I wish there was a Chick-fil-A

01:28:06.140 Around

01:28:06.820 I got good news for you

01:28:07.960 Did you say there was a Chick-fil-A

01:28:09.120 They tore down

01:28:09.880 That's right

01:28:10.520 The El Pollo Loco to put the-

01:28:13.400 They tore down Goodwill.

01:28:15.500 No, but there was also-

01:28:16.640 And El Pollo Loco.

01:28:17.320 They tore down both.

01:28:18.160 There's a Chick-fil-A in town?

01:28:19.280 White Oak and Ventura.

01:28:20.180 It's coming.

01:28:20.860 They're building it right now.

01:28:22.060 It's right on the corner.

01:28:22.860 Oh, thank you.

01:28:23.760 It's coming.

01:28:24.220 Thank you, Jesus.

01:28:25.420 Yeah.

01:28:25.980 No, I just-

01:28:26.660 We've been asking Jesus for this for a long time.

01:28:28.820 It's coming, Michael.

01:28:29.500 No, he heard.

01:28:30.000 He heard.

01:28:30.420 He heard you.

01:28:31.360 He hears your voice specifically.

01:28:33.660 Man.

01:28:34.140 It operates on that special frequency.

01:28:36.160 All right.

01:28:36.840 Yeah.

01:28:37.060 I got another fact here.

01:28:38.460 This is on a different note.

01:28:40.220 So apparently we have five years to save ourselves from climate change, a Harvard scientist says.

01:28:45.680 Before it's too late.

01:28:46.340 Before it is too late.

01:28:47.800 Harvard professor James Anderson, best known for his work linking chlorofluorocarbons to the ozone hole, warned us that we need to take immediate action or else we're screwed.

01:29:00.580 So they're saying the amount of warming right now is similar to the Eocene Epoch?

01:29:09.240 Oh yeah

01:29:09.960 Which happened about 39 million years ago

01:29:12.960 I went to high school with Yosin 1.00

01:29:15.020 Fuck 1.00

01:29:15.660 Well that was a time period 1.00

01:29:17.420 No I think he went to high school with her

01:29:20.960 Listen dude

01:29:22.140 You don't know the hood man

01:29:24.160 They get creative with these names 0.50

01:29:26.040 Yosin Epoch bro

01:29:28.360 Is that how you pronounce it? 0.98

01:29:30.000 I don't fucking know I don't know what that is 0.96

01:29:31.380 It's a time period bro 0.98

01:29:32.500 Listen what do we do

01:29:35.920 Michael can we send you up to fix the ozone layer 0.99

01:29:38.320 we need you to beat some ass okay you beat ass in the movies we need you to beat some congressman 0.99

01:29:42.900 ass because something's not happening yeah how how are we supposed to like check on that 1.00

01:29:49.480 how are we supposed to like we got five years like what can we do what are the action items 0.99

01:29:54.280 so so what help us so have that damn chicken sandwich at kfc yeah like is that what you're 0.89

01:30:00.700 saying we got to do a lot they're saying we can't just cut out emissions we have to like reflect 0.98

01:30:06.000 sun from hitting the planet because what's happening right now what happened 39 million

01:30:10.800 years ago is we had no ice on the planet so the the same temperature in the poles was at the 0.99

01:30:16.520 equator so there was no difference so that's where we're headed right now can we beat his ass in five 0.98

01:30:21.260 years like could he like just agree to just get a total public flogging if if he's wrong yeah i mean 0.99

01:30:30.800 because then maybe he would want to dig down

01:30:32.940 and get even deeper research 0.99

01:30:34.860 because he might want to save his own ass. 1.00

01:30:37.340 Maybe he's trying to light a fire under people's asses. 1.00

01:30:39.140 Okay. 0.99

01:30:39.600 Because wasn't it like 12 years ago, like last month?

01:30:42.140 Or 12 years?

01:30:42.980 Last month we had 12 years.

01:30:44.200 This month we had five.

01:30:45.060 Well, there's new stuff coming out every day.

01:30:46.600 Maybe in two days we're going to have two minutes.

01:30:48.480 True. 0.99

01:30:48.940 We should get our shit together either way. 0.95

01:30:50.700 Yeah. 0.98

01:30:51.180 Yeah, we can only do what we can do.

01:30:53.880 It's true.

01:30:54.560 But, you know.

01:30:56.620 You've been ringside with a lot of fighters.

01:30:58.540 I'm curious.

01:30:59.620 Who do you have extensive relationships with?

01:31:02.640 I mean, I'm sure you do, but who are you hanging out with when they're not fighting?

01:31:06.540 Anyone?

01:31:07.360 Oh, man.

01:31:08.840 Well, Tyron was here, right?

01:31:10.940 Tyron was here.

01:31:11.480 Yeah, yeah, he came on.

01:31:12.520 Yeah.

01:31:13.960 Like, Josh Barnett, that dude is brilliant.

01:31:17.320 Yeah.

01:31:17.800 He's one of the smartest people I know.

01:31:19.240 Not just about fighters.

01:31:20.380 Really, really.

01:31:21.180 That dude, I'm telling you, you should have him on the show.

01:31:23.060 Okay.

01:31:23.300 He could just, I think he could just walk on the Jeopardy.

01:31:27.560 Wow.

01:31:27.920 wow he's a smart ass he's a real smart smart ass dude that day i got it okay cool yeah tyron's 0.60

01:31:34.180 dope man i uh he came on the podcast i went to vegas saw him fight bet 20k on him lost 0.65

01:31:39.400 yeah i put a i put a g-bar down too sad i gotta ask you as um we've seen like movies like black

01:31:47.740 panther really bring a new wave of african-american superheroes and and role models um you were one

01:31:55.660 of the first in 97 to yeah so what was what have you seen since your time being a superhero and

01:32:05.660 you know the african-american community well i mean it's pretty commensurate because like you

01:32:10.880 see even back in the day right there was when i did spawn there was only a handful of superhero

01:32:15.500 movies anyway right and then it was myself and it was wesley snipes yeah so percentage wise we

01:32:22.880 weren't doing too damn bad so you know there's uh you know there's been uh you know i'm not like

01:32:31.100 really i'm not a big fan of the whole comic movie yeah you know i kind of yeah i get it yeah you

01:32:38.100 know but yeah i mean that black panther thing i was like i i loved it in the fact that you know

01:32:43.880 it was just a cool ass movie yeah and and when people get caught up on the black thing the thing

01:32:50.600 i think is great is that it was just a cool ass movie to happen you know it was happened to star 0.82

01:32:55.020 black folks that's what i love about it i like i do i do movies where it's got nothing to do with

01:33:02.740 you know i happen to be black but as most of my characters have nothing to do with any kind of

01:33:09.400 ethnicity but that's the mark is to show that it shouldn't make a difference you know yeah so you

01:33:17.500 So I love it because it's not marginalized in any way.

01:33:21.760 Yeah.

01:33:22.340 I'm kind of curious.

01:33:23.840 I don't know why I just thought it.

01:33:24.900 It's like hearing you talk, you're very eloquent with your speech,

01:33:27.340 and you use a lot of intellectual words.

01:33:31.180 But you're from Brooklyn in the hood, correct?

01:33:34.300 Mm-hmm.

01:33:34.580 Was there a point where you talked like a gangster,

01:33:38.620 or you had to switch the way you spoke?

01:33:41.640 No, I always spoke the way I do now.

01:33:44.900 I always did.

01:33:45.660 uh even when i even felt the the pull to you know kind of be you know different i always wanted to

01:33:53.620 be who i am i remember when i was in college there was times where i kind of was a little

01:33:59.480 sensitive i thought i was talking over people's heads sometimes or whatever and i you know

01:34:04.460 sometimes would would try to get a vernacular that you know i mean i mean i change it to some

01:34:10.300 degree yeah depending on who i'm talking to because my my goal is to communicate but um but

01:34:16.200 i didn't i was very um careful as to not play act uh one thing was interesting is like i at one time

01:34:27.760 i was friends with uh with tupac uh we used to play pool and we used to hang out and

01:34:34.500 and he was so like we spoke very similar like he when he first got to know me

01:34:42.320 uh i saw that he was relieved that you know i was like him he would he did not

01:34:50.340 tupac a lot of people think he wasn't that way it's he like we could play we could be like

01:34:58.100 people would always say this hey your friend looks a lot like tupac because people never

01:35:02.460 thought it was him because really he was just like he was from the high school of performing

01:35:06.560 arts he was like he was a poet yeah he you know the way i speak and we he he was goofy clowning

01:35:12.520 around stuff people go that guy looks like tupac but it couldn't possibly be him and i'm like no

01:35:17.220 that's him really we could play pool and all of a sudden pac would just all of a sudden go 0.82

01:35:22.920 yeah yeah i'm gonna play that you know the six in the corner i'm like somebody black must have

01:35:28.540 walked in the room and i turn around i go okay that's it because he will just go into that

01:35:34.580 character because it was like a lot of us the truth of it a lot of us are nerds starting into

01:35:40.720 this business and everything right even martial artists would a lot of us it's a nerd convention

01:35:44.860 and sometimes like we get the the accolades from a crowd that we admired and we lose who we are

01:35:55.000 and it was kind of tragic because it was like it was kind of like imagine uh albacino staying in

01:36:03.420 the scarface character to impress others yeah he would go flip right into you know because it was 1.00

01:36:12.160 crazy but i'm i never wanted to do that because like i'm saying you lose who you are and fuck 0.97

01:36:19.000 anybody who doesn't expect respect you for who you are yeah and we talked to layla steinberg who 0.99

01:36:24.260 worked with him uh in his music career and she said that he had set three goals one was to be

01:36:31.380 uh the biggest rapper alive the most most known rapper another was that schools would be studying

01:36:37.640 his work all over uh the world and then the third was that he's gonna die by the time he was 25

01:36:44.900 because he got caught up in the game like that was one of the things that he stated he set out on

01:36:50.120 so like what you're describing it's interesting how some people stick to that persona or or that

01:36:55.720 you know that goal that they're gonna die young or they build this image where it's like why

01:37:01.760 why do you got to do that i want you to you know look at things in another you know way it's like

01:37:07.900 okay how many people have said that and it didn't happen yeah you know i mean think about

01:37:13.780 nostradamus do people think about the uh the predictions he got wrong he could have made

01:37:20.140 30 predictions every single day but they're gonna they're gonna hold on to the ones that he got

01:37:24.920 right so it's it's one of those things that you know you're holding on to that because it

01:37:29.680 there's it fits a certain narrative right there uh there's a lot of people who may say that

01:37:34.760 and you know but it's you know i i just think unfortunately you know he got caught up in that

01:37:42.860 And I've seen it happen a lot, and even comedians and a lot of people that just go, okay, you know, like, yeah, a lot of times we're the kids that we always were, and we could default to that.

01:38:04.060 And so you become this hero to folks, and you want to covet that.

01:38:09.620 You want to protect that.

01:38:10.600 and you may be deluding you know who you really are yeah and that's you know kind of harkens back

01:38:17.920 to what i was talking about is just always just have the courage to be who you are you know it's

01:38:22.840 just there's not going to be another you so embrace that you know that's what's special that's

01:38:28.540 what makes you who you are don't don't lose that for anybody yep i love that i love that we'll end

01:38:34.820 it there i hope you guys heard that adopted it absorb it listen to it uh michael j dude thank

01:38:40.920 you again thank you for having me of course bro appreciate you appreciate you rate us five stars 0.98

01:38:45.500 or i'll have michael kick your ass all right guys we'll see you next time 0.97

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