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00:01:54.080 Ooh, I scammed them.

00:01:55.260 What?

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00:02:15.960 How are you fluent in Mandarin?

00:02:17.540 Ni hao, what's your John Cena?

00:02:19.420 WWE gave you a free language program.

00:02:21.620 That is unbelievable.

00:02:22.720 No, it's very believable.

00:02:23.400 They offered it for free.

00:02:24.900 Your Instagram, John.

00:02:26.000 These images will be posted without explanation

00:02:28.100 for your interpretation.

00:02:29.140 Can I ask you about this traffic jam?

00:02:31.000 I was stuck in traffic.

00:02:32.680 You saw The Rocks return?

00:02:34.120 Do you think he had that line written on his wrist?

00:02:36.460 One thing I know about Dwayne, he never makes the same mistake twice.

00:02:40.900 You're so genuine.

00:02:42.400 Everyone says that. 0.89

00:02:43.520 Are you f***ing kidding? 0.86

00:02:44.580 One meeting! 0.79

00:02:45.380 John Cena!

00:02:46.360 One meeting!

00:02:54.960 If you see me on my phone, I want you to know I'm not texting.

00:02:57.880 Same.

00:02:58.240 i'm looking at the plethora of notes that i have encyclopedia you know um it's unprofessional we

00:03:06.040 spent uh we spent hours together today and uh i don't need it we just we just talked like two

00:03:12.220 people i know doing things two people i know i know but now it's my show john yes sure use your

00:03:19.120 notes use your phone let me are we we're good we're on let me just hydrate first let's go

00:03:22.880 First time trying it

00:03:25.320 Oh my god all of it 1.00

00:03:26.120 Wow you'd be fun to do a keg stand with 1.00

00:03:28.640 I swallowed it all

00:03:30.360 That's what she said

00:03:32.260 Welcome to Impulsive the number one podcast in the world

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00:03:48.420 So subscribe if you want to see ladies and gentlemen

00:03:50.660 I learned about all that vernacular

00:03:52.360 subscribe hit the likes do the comments notification notification the bell ding that

00:03:57.980 bell yeah thank you we just filmed what drives you i learned i just that was that was you i mean

00:04:02.800 you gave me a wealth of knowledge i do the outros i got about 30 of that but that's okay i can teach

00:04:07.700 you john just like you could teach me because you are one of the greatest wrestlers to have ever

00:04:13.240 done it i do gonna clap for you ladies and gentlemen we have john cena in the house

00:04:16.960 it's an honor mr c we're all clapping we're all just clapping it's an understatement we've we've

00:04:24.860 wanted you on for so long and to get to spend time with you just the five ten minute interactions

00:04:31.980 that we've had prior to today was an honor to get to sit down with you for two hours in your car we

00:04:37.640 just did a his show called what drives you um where we just talked about the deepest you man

00:04:43.080 And you are just a promoter.

00:04:44.920 I love that about you.

00:04:46.160 Always plug, dude.

00:04:48.100 Thank you so much for that.

00:04:49.680 And that conversation was very special, so thank you.

00:04:52.240 Yeah, of course.

00:04:52.920 I throw the same thing your way.

00:04:55.420 Nothing is off limits.

00:04:56.940 We'll do the best to get you the best show we can.

00:04:58.860 Well, I'm glad you said that, Joe.

00:05:00.360 All right.

00:05:01.200 Let's dive right in.

00:05:02.180 No, I got pretty vulnerable on that show.

00:05:04.420 And I told you this while we were shooting,

00:05:07.380 but ironically, every interaction I've had with you,

00:05:10.800 you make me feel the most seen

00:05:13.880 John Cena makes me feel

00:05:16.900 the most seen I've ever felt

00:05:18.660 man when you look at people

00:05:20.160 and you shake their hand

00:05:21.200 you care

00:05:22.400 and you're so genuine

00:05:23.840 everyone says that 0.99

00:05:25.340 are you fucking kidding 0.99

00:05:26.760 one meeting 0.99

00:05:27.400 John Cena

00:05:28.380 one meeting

00:05:28.980 sorry someone has to be somewhere

00:05:32.380 that was probably the most important alarm

00:05:33.960 of like I gotta take my medicine

00:05:35.260 probably

00:05:35.700 something like that

00:05:36.680 sorry sorry

00:05:38.360 but yeah through all your successes

00:05:40.300 is um uh inside and outside of the wwe skip a beat right there traversing i'm i'm gonna do this i do

00:05:46.300 podcasts you are still somehow so genuine and so kind and so thank you for all the time you've

00:05:52.420 given me and the energy you've given me and joining us on this show i appreciate the invite

00:05:56.440 it's good to be here in puerto rico yeah man this is this is paradise here so uh thank you for

00:06:01.680 welcoming in into your your home and i really appreciate it of course man we could we could

00:06:05.780 take this so many directions but i think i think the most appropriate way to start honestly is um

00:06:09.880 your instagram john you are one of the most famous people on the planet and your instagram

00:06:14.680 is one of the most perplexing places that i've ever seen what do you mean when i go to at john

00:06:20.420 cena on instagram i'm just gonna i gotta pull some up because i need answers you know i need

00:06:27.200 answers so i wasn't sure if i was on the right account look at today but it had 20 million no

00:06:32.380 look at today oh my god now that one makes sense okay john but what were you feeling on this

00:06:39.500 prince day on this on this dave chapelle rendition of prince day what does the bio say i'll read it

00:06:45.640 welcome to my instagram these images will be posted without explanation for your interpretation

00:06:51.800 enjoy so enjoy no no no no no we want you to interpret what this photo of benjamin franklin

00:06:58.240 that you posted meant what did you mean when you posted that john so uh i don't want to i never

00:07:04.640 want to take away anyone's interpretation of the image why did i post that because i just read

00:07:11.500 poor charlie's almanac which is a charlie munger piece who admires and read a reference to biography

00:07:18.500 by ben franklin and it references a lot to do with ben franklin and ben franklin found

00:07:24.700 compounding interests to be extremely interesting so much so that he took an experiment and put a

00:07:31.500 certain amount in a fund and had it mature for a certain amount of time and was able to fund a

00:07:37.700 bunch of philanthropic projects just on compound interest alone. I don't think that enough people

00:07:43.960 learn how to use money right. I don't know why we don't teach it in schools. And I got guidance

00:07:50.300 on how to use money from Ben Franklin via Charlie Munger. So I posted Ben Franklin.

00:07:56.460 can i ask you about this traffic jam yeah sure i was stuck in traffic

00:08:03.600 these are all making so much sense that one i love that one made sense but i hate i hate doing

00:08:11.760 this because i want uh people to be able to take away what they want just like any other artist

00:08:18.420 they want the audience so I originally I am not from the age of attach yourself to every platform

00:08:26.940 uh it was very tough for me to come up to to speed I contribute to Facebook I contribute to

00:08:33.160 Twitter and then the the WWE at the time when Instagram launched was like you have to have an

00:08:38.380 Instagram it's like all right if I have to have it I'm doing it my way and the very first post

00:08:43.380 is a post of a writer who was working with me at the time, Ryan Ward. It's a close-up of his

00:08:48.600 mustache. And I didn't put anything, no tags, no nothing. And I said, I'd never post a picture of

00:08:54.340 my face. And I would never add any text. And I would just see if this could work. And it has

00:09:01.740 become like art. And I think there's not enough vehicle for interpretation nowadays. Everything

00:09:10.120 is presented and thoroughly explained i want people to think for themselves and i've dropped

00:09:15.940 some serious clues and spoilers on there and like real inside baseball stuff but if you're not

00:09:21.480 looking for it you don't know and i don't care if you know because that's not the point the point is

00:09:26.080 if you're if you come to there as a forum you can check out the images you can get a look into my

00:09:31.160 life or maybe you can get a look in your own life maybe you see something in a traffic jam that i

00:09:35.920 don't maybe you see something that ben franklin pitcher i don't stone cold stroganoff and then

00:09:40.100 their stone cold friday it is a beautiful rendition of a way to use social media it's

00:09:45.420 actually amazing coming from you that that you like i said three sizes man i appreciate that

00:09:49.760 it's cool and i'm not gonna do this all day just please just one more what did you mean when you

00:09:54.280 posted this bear with 687 000 likes what is this chubby little bear i had just uh visited my family

00:10:01.240 in vancouver and i spent uh 10 days being fed persian food and that's how i felt

00:10:09.160 you're the best john is and that because it's in the snow and that's kind of how i felt can we make

00:10:17.120 this so good can we get serious for a second the social media thing for just one last we weren't

00:10:20.780 serious we just didn't do that i thought it was very serious i mean i was genuinely giving you

00:10:25.940 my thoughts which is very rare i don't explain anything okay leaving the interpret the artistic

00:10:31.760 interpretation out of it do you do you see any other uh innate downsides to social media that

00:10:37.500 you don't like is there any anything you steer clear of any platforms you don't like is there

00:10:41.320 anything you just don't like about social media listen uh man there's things about life i don't

00:10:48.000 like so i stay away from that stuff um the reason i curate my instagram the way i do

00:10:54.860 is because i want to really be efficient with my time on that screen and the reason i curate my

00:11:02.340 Twitter the way I do. The reason we have the experience in TikTok that we do is because I

00:11:09.500 want to be able to, first, what's most important to me, getting something out there for the people

00:11:15.480 who actually pay attention to what I do. I have no idea why, but understanding that that's important

00:11:20.440 and making it important, but also setting boundaries for myself. I believe boundaries

00:11:25.380 are very important in life um and this is a way for me to operate in all tentacles where

00:11:32.020 my entire day isn't structured around that device and that's something that i am consciously aware

00:11:38.960 of so i don't want to say i don't want to do that i want to be a part of all these things

00:11:43.880 but i the the person who helps me uh manage all this is sitting right over there that when we sit

00:11:48.860 down and explore a new platform. The first piece of discussion is how much time is this going to

00:11:55.640 take? Because that is our most valuable asset. The time you gave me today in the car, that's a

00:12:01.960 huge ask. Your time is super valuable. I was able to receive so much worth and wealth from that,

00:12:09.840 and I'm grateful. I'd much rather be doing that than scanning to see what the world is about.

00:12:16.220 i think social media is great if if it doesn't make your life miserable if something makes your

00:12:23.800 life miserable and you continue to do it man i don't know what to tell you social media doesn't

00:12:29.860 make my life miserable i feel good about the messages i send i feel great that i like kind 0.98

00:12:35.460 of have an art gallery and instagram i feel great that we can use tiktok for weird shit

00:12:40.660 um and we're now using it as a way to like look back on my life but it only takes me about

00:12:46.280 10 minutes a week to do so so it 10 minutes a week do you know how many people in their chairs

00:12:52.640 watching this just current like lost their minds there are people watching the show that are

00:12:57.760 spending 12 hours a day but honestly if it gives you joy i'm okay with it right like do what you

00:13:05.460 love love what you do and be around those you love while you're doing it there are people who

00:13:11.380 do certain activities for for that amount of time and have a lot of joy in their lives

00:13:16.060 if you're on your phone and and you can fall asleep at night and feel fulfilled

00:13:21.600 who the fuck am i to say you're doing it wrong amazing you have a very healthy relationship 0.97

00:13:27.740 with social media and everything in your life the amount of discipline i can just hear that you and 0.99

00:13:32.260 now that i know you a little bit better from the two-hour conversation we had you're like a

00:13:36.440 almost like a disciplinary expert i feel like and especially to achieve the success that you have

00:13:42.300 the way you treat time as your most valuable asset and actually mean it when you say it

00:13:46.560 is inspiring and sort of refreshing in this day and age well we we talked a little bit about

00:13:54.740 in the car uh about purpose and a lot of that is just working hard to try to be who you say you are

00:14:04.360 and we all we all project ourselves a certain way but when rubber hits the road and you look

00:14:11.200 at yourself in the mirror who are you and are you living the life that you're telling people

00:14:15.180 you're living and that's that's i'm i'm just trying to do that now and that takes a lot of

00:14:22.000 work you're doing it and and and the fans see it we see it and experience it in person can i see

00:14:29.480 what your screen time is i don't have my phone on me oh exhibit a uh i that's okay i i actually

00:14:36.200 monitor my screen time uh all in and i work out on an app so the app is always open uh i also do

00:14:45.220 a language program and that app stays open but i monitor my screen time and my screen time

00:14:51.800 per week or my screen time per day per week for 200 2023 was 150 minutes and that's all in

00:15:00.580 everything no matter what yes that's fantastic i'm probably i'm probably double or triple that

00:15:05.680 and my resolution this year one of my goals is to try to decrease at 10 sick i don't want to say

00:15:11.820 like kick myself off everything yep i i can do that but i have to be accountable for the side

00:15:19.100 effects of that i love what i do yep and the entertainment business is business so it's it's

00:15:25.660 an it's a necessary tool that i need to be fluent in yeah but i also want to get more time for me

00:15:32.100 so i think getting that down to like two hours would be awesome but i'm just going to try to

00:15:36.120 shave it shave it a little bit what are those what are those two hours do you ever find yourself

00:15:39.940 like scroll lock sure sure uh i'm a car guy so i look at cars got it i i look at the marketplace

00:15:46.900 um i'll i think a lot of the time is probably spent there just checking out like okay what

00:15:54.520 what is a value in the market uh what is the going rate on stuff are there any crazy auctions coming

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00:18:28.880 Lisa, we should tell them about our new show.

00:18:31.740 Oh my God, Lexi. We have a new podcast. It's called Don't Lie to Me.

00:18:36.400 I'm Lexi Iwanu. We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart.

00:18:41.980 And I'm Lisi DiGiulio, the old one, which means we have wildly different references,

00:18:46.600 occasionally different opinions. And at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all.

00:18:50.980 I'm not going to get anywhere fighting. That is wild. I learned that about you today.

00:18:56.380 now in my 30s being the founder of new shoes good taste is my business and i've always got

00:19:03.800 something to say if men were just honest about this there would be so much more peace in the

00:19:08.500 world we're gonna talk about dating relationships beauty getting older and a little wiser we're

00:19:14.240 best friends but we don't always agree because you told us how accommodating you are obviously

00:19:19.340 i would do what i think i could do to to fight the fight but there's only so much fight i can fight

00:19:23.920 don't lie to me don't lie to me don't lie to me don't lie to me don't lie to me don't lie to me

00:19:30.700 liar listen on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts

00:19:36.300 i don't really care i'm lacy mosley author actor stand-up comedian creator and host of scam goddess

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00:19:49.660 I bring on incredible guests like Conan O'Brien, Iowa Debrey, Lamorne Morris, and Nicole Byer.

00:19:55.300 Ooh, I scammed them. What? I could talk to you for an hour. You're a generational yapper like me.

00:20:00.520 That's why I had to make yapping a job. And the scams run the gamut. I'm talking about scams from

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00:20:19.180 episodes of my show on youtube if there's a scam i'm here to protect you and i'm also here to laugh

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00:20:35.580 you get your podcast you said the word fluent i gotta know how the fuck are you fluent in mandarin 0.95

00:20:44.240 so fluent is a stretch okay uh i'm better than i was yesterday and i've been taking mandarin for 0.83

00:20:51.660 10 10 to 12 years now and the the how of that is wwe wwe uh did not have to do this and they

00:21:01.940 offer all talent you qualify for this as well they will assist in paying for your secondary

00:21:07.260 education and they will give you a free language program are you serious you can learn it just

00:21:13.520 like i can i am going to learn spanish and when they when they uh debuted all these things i'm

00:21:18.740 the old crusty veteran sitting at the front of the talent meeting with everybody and i'm like

00:21:22.340 these kids don't know how good they got it they can get a college education to learn a language

00:21:26.520 i gotta turn up and say that no i'm not going to turn around and tell them to do anything

00:21:30.240 i'm going to do it so on my time off i took advantage of the program had a tutor come to

00:21:35.560 the house and just started from there that is unbelievable no it's very believable they offered

00:21:39.520 for free i'm gonna take him up on that i thought it was a good opportunity to learn and i you know

00:21:46.400 at that point uh i had heard the two toughest things to do as you age were learn language and

00:21:51.800 play an instrument and i it was learning remedial mandarin that inspired me to try to learn an

00:21:56.560 instrument dude i saw a selfie video of you promoting something speaking fluent or what

00:22:02.580 appeared to be conversational it i i describe it as like a foreign athlete trying to speak

00:22:08.660 english after the game like it's you can you can get it like that one guy that one baseball player

00:22:14.560 talking about the the bananas and cramps monkey eat banana oh yeah monkey no cramp i in the locker

00:22:21.740 i know cramp yeah yeah the japanese guy why mandarin uh so is it like some like strange

00:22:28.440 reason like do like so um you missed out on a great conversation but i i cannot tell you how

00:22:34.880 much i love wwe and and loving it is not just loving my time in the ring it's also loving the

00:22:41.340 business and wwe has really never been able to to penetrate china and i um they just don't

00:22:47.780 understand it they think it's a kung fu exposition they don't know if it's real um it's it's the one

00:22:53.980 place in the world that kind of doesn't understand we're everywhere else but china so i figured if

00:22:59.460 one of wwe's top superstars could bridge the language barrier maybe we can get some relevancy

00:23:07.300 over there and with relevancy maybe we can get some homegrown talent and with homegrown talent

00:23:11.740 maybe as we were talking about how you how you get distribution with prime and how you get

00:23:17.720 locations it's you have influence in this area and i was literally just trying to use

00:23:24.360 myself as a vehicle to get us over there and the crazy thing is it didn't work

00:23:30.560 so we also talked about like manifesting stuff and it failing yeah this was eight years of labor

00:23:39.340 failed god i haven't stopped i still learn because i truly admire learning the skill

00:23:45.160 and uh it i don't i don't do it anymore as oh this will be useful to me someday i try to keep

00:23:50.480 my brain sharp and i don't want to lose what i've learned but uh it was one of those things where

00:23:55.920 you just work really hard and it doesn't matriculate i don't think that's i don't think

00:23:59.840 that's like a representation of like anyone's you know faults or inabilities to penetrate that

00:24:06.580 market that's a tough market john everything they use is is different it's it's not like

00:24:11.160 you you post an instagram post and it goes to france and it goes to italy and it goes to germany

00:24:15.920 in the united states china has its own entire ecosystem ecosystem of of social media of

00:24:22.420 marketplace of industry sure does you literally pick one of the hardest places to try to penetrate

00:24:28.700 it was the one place we weren't right right that story in itself is an indicator of your love for

00:24:35.020 the company like you were willing to put in so much work to try to extend uh the work that you

00:24:41.360 do into another country and i think even one of our interactions and and we talked about keeping

00:24:48.200 certain interactions off camera but i'm going to share this for the world good is also an indicator

00:24:52.640 of how much you love wwe um i'm in my locker room one day kicking it with kevin laying back i hear a

00:24:58.780 knock who could that great sound effect opens the door i'm the only dude who still does the

00:25:06.400 shaving a haircut two bits gag i knew of someone it's john cena i go john cena well welcome what's

00:25:14.240 up and man you just expressed to me that the love you had for this company and you your gratitude

00:25:20.700 for me for showing it that the respect that it honestly deserves but it was

00:25:27.180 not not shocking but it was so nice to see off camera in a private space really how much you

00:25:36.420 love the wwe you said you said it's your life and the amount of energy and effort that you put into

00:25:46.220 it on and off camera can be felt and i think that's why the fans respond to you so much i

00:25:51.180 appreciate that thank you you've been doing this for so long from the ovw w days ruthless aggression

00:25:58.080 did the other huge failure well that's why i wanted to ask when you entered the wwe you know

00:26:03.620 they're like who are you what are you about my name's john cena i'm about ruthless aggression

00:26:06.960 what was the storyline going in are y'all just winging it so uh if i had it to do again right

00:26:13.700 Uh, the reason it didn't work is because I wasn't there for Vince's ruthless aggression promo and I was neither ruthless nor aggressive. So I looked the same as everybody else. It was basically a debut. We spoke off camera and you express that now you just want to show them what you got. You want to show them what you're capable of and you can do such amazing things, but so can everyone else.

00:26:43.700 What sets people apart is the ability to believe.

00:26:47.760 So when I come out and I slap Kurt Angle on the face and say ruthless aggression, everybody's like, great.

00:26:53.580 And then 10 minutes into that match, one of the rowdiest buildings in the world, the Rosemont Horizon, everybody's like this.

00:27:02.340 And that, it just wasn't going to work.

00:27:06.960 They filmed a little bit with The Undertaker afterwards.

00:27:10.940 where he shook my hand and I was in awe someone who's aggressive and ruthless would have kicked

00:27:18.400 him in the nuts yeah yeah so either I just didn't understand the opportunity I was being given

00:27:23.980 I can take those two words and in those two words tell me who you are in two words

00:27:29.040 ruthlessly aggressive I know what that means do whatever it takes in an aggressive manner

00:27:36.300 to get the objective done or you're a 180 of that you are the biggest pacifist and you are not

00:27:44.180 ruthless so i could have said that i was ruthlessly ruthlessly aggressive and been the opposite and i

00:27:50.300 would have had a chance i could have said i was ruthlessly aggressive and been that and had a

00:27:54.940 chance i said it and wrestled fail fail and i mean they they set me up i was with top tier performers

00:28:05.480 uh pay-per-view matches it just didn't work the audience didn't connect and it was because i

00:28:11.000 didn't give of myself to them i wanted to show them my skill that's all well and good but man

00:28:18.560 when i go back i don't have much skill left i just give them my whole complete heart and always have

00:28:25.460 and always will and that's why people show up man they they sit down to stand up and be excited and

00:28:32.760 be energized and fucking believe in something and you can like dude you can feel it like i 0.60

00:28:40.100 love that i love it i'll and and i i just wish i'd known that earlier i mean you're not doing so bad 0.96

00:28:50.680 i appreciate that but you're flipping it back on me hey you told me about your regret and i'm like

00:28:55.880 hey we know how the story ends yeah yeah yeah i mean everyone has their arc um and and you you

00:29:02.380 also said like the come up is so interesting because everybody's come up is different yeah

00:29:05.920 i mean i said in the car i was like i wish i would have done some things differently as i'm

00:29:09.620 sure you would too um and and the whole class of people that came up with you at ovw um

00:29:15.520 batista was one of them lesnar we're watching videos last night randy orton like the amount

00:29:22.060 of blue chip talent at the time was absolutely unbelievable and you had the best peers in the

00:29:27.160 game to well people talk about that but let's look at the class before us uh dx the rock stone cold

00:29:34.840 steve austin the undertaker kane the list goes on and let's talk about the class after me of the cm

00:29:41.380 punks the seth rollins the roman reigns i mean cody rhodes becky lynn charlotte flair the list

00:29:49.100 goes on yeah i mean the wwe has never been at a loss for talent they go through these small

00:29:56.380 patches in the timeline where they're like what are they going to do next who's going to be the

00:30:00.740 next stone cold who's going to be the next john cena and now it's like who's going to be the next

00:30:04.920 roman reigns sitting right there maybe i personally think it's dominic mysterio

00:30:09.400 shout out by the way i'll absolutely absolutely shout out he's doing fantastic speaking of him

00:30:16.720 jumping in recently what was your initial perception of that hire and that entry into

00:30:23.960 the wwe i'll give you two answers me 10 years ago would have been very skeptical but the business

00:30:30.220 has changed and because the business has changed and we have better distribution we're in more

00:30:34.780 you can we're more finest in more places yeah um the perception of what we can offer has changed

00:30:41.620 and now people come to us seeing opportunity not just what can i take from this place

00:30:46.280 and right away with what you're willing to sacrifice in terms of your health and well-being

00:30:52.920 with the moves that you do i can tell that you give a and that means a lot you're not here

00:30:59.320 to just do the thing once you went from like special guest to full-time superstar in five

00:31:04.920 minutes and that's that's very refreshing i think it speaks volumes to you understanding

00:31:11.880 what the wwe can offer and how the wwe has changed man i really appreciate that um and we

00:31:19.240 we we talked about this in the car um i love that i love what drives you by the way always

00:31:24.200 well we talked for two hours and nicky's telling me it's going to be like a 23 minute cut so might

00:31:28.460 as well just have the conversation again stuff they're not going to use um i i was like yo i

00:31:32.660 felt like i started late and you mentioned that you started at age 22 i started at 26 but before

00:31:38.640 you really got into it and started having your big breaks did you know you wanted to be a wrestler

00:31:42.960 because we've had edge here we've had some people here and they're like yo i knew the moment i saw

00:31:47.320 wrestling this is what i was gonna do so i knew it from a perspective of this is the hobby i want

00:31:52.760 to have i think of it like your softball league or like whatever whatever you work towards the

00:31:58.900 week for my little brother hates his job but loves his boat okay he endures the suck to get out on

00:32:05.380 the water when i found that ring i was just about ready to take a career leap that would have not

00:32:12.860 allowed me to do that uh and if that failed i was just going to go back home what were you going to

00:32:17.980 do i was going to join the marines you would have been a sick marine so i just failed at every

00:32:24.320 avenue in life i got my college degree i could not apply it i tried to be a cop i failed the exam

00:32:29.340 uh i was running out of time money uh and and i just didn't know what to do and i was like man i

00:32:36.700 i can follow a schedule i'm in shape i think i can abide by the rules these people have always

00:32:43.100 been heroes to me it's right in san diego as in los angeles at the time i'm like man i'm just

00:32:47.600 gonna i'm gonna go for it and the weekend i was thinking about it a friend of mine was like dude 0.97

00:32:51.880 you're always talking about raw you know we trained down in orange county like what the fuck 0.92

00:32:57.840 no what no he's like would you want to do it yes of course when i saw the ring i was like okay 0.99

00:33:03.720 i'm gonna do whatever stupid job i can to put on the costume friday and saturday so it wasn't like

00:33:11.140 this is my path it was like no this is the new thing i'm into i was a student to play football 0.94

00:33:17.580 you know i used my job to be a wrestler like it became my escape because i had spent so long on

00:33:28.020 the other side of the barricade as a fan growing up so was there a moment then when you realized

00:33:33.740 this was working and you may have a shot at true greatness not just to be well i i wouldn't say

00:33:40.960 that i would say there was a moment where i knew that it was a possible path and that was when i

00:33:48.020 got my first contract and uh i'm i'm very vocal about this because of the times it was the height

00:33:56.760 of the wcw wwf wars where everyone was under contract because they didn't want you going the

00:34:02.600 other place they it was like the dot-com boom you got a dot-com i'll buy it and like so my first

00:34:09.060 contract was for twelve thousand five hundred dollars a year yeah and i quit my job and i still

00:34:15.700 lived in los angeles damn so i had to i had to operate pretty lean or i i didn't have to i chose

00:34:23.540 to yeah and all the stories i tell about like hey i lived in my car i did that by choice i had a warm

00:34:29.100 bed and a roof over my head in massachusetts my dad is the the most giving person to his sons and

00:34:34.540 he's like you always got a home here always take care of you no i wanted to do that and i had to

00:34:40.240 go through i chose to go through some hardships to be where i'm at i quit because my philosophy was

00:34:48.100 this is my job now i am being paid i am a professional this is my job i will find a way

00:34:55.220 to make it work because someone has bet on me and if i don't let them down i could inch forward

00:34:59.420 and i did that my second contract was for like 25 and then they moved me to kentucky and it became

00:35:04.900 50 and they moved me to tv and it became 75 and then i ended up signing a better deal than a 0.98

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00:36:47.560 Lisa, we should tell them about our new show.

00:36:50.880 Oh my God, Lexi, we have a new podcast.

00:36:53.600 It's called Don't Lie to Me.

00:36:54.760 I'm Lexi Iwanu.

00:36:56.160 We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart.

00:37:00.640 And I'm Lisa DiGiulio, the old one,

00:37:02.900 which means we have wildly different references,

00:37:05.260 occasionally different opinions.

00:37:06.280 And at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all.

00:37:08.960 I'm not gonna get anywhere you're fighting

00:37:11.760 That is wild

00:37:13.280 I learned that about you today

00:37:15.080 Now in my 30s

00:37:17.640 Being the founder of New Shoes

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00:37:21.100 And I've always got something to say

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00:37:27.400 We're gonna talk about dating, relationships

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00:37:31.460 And a little wiser

00:37:32.440 We're best friends, but we don't always agree

00:37:34.620 Because you told us how accommodating you are

00:37:37.440 Obviously, I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight,

00:37:40.980 but there's only so much fight I can fight.

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00:37:57.300 Hi, this is Kylie Brakeman.

00:37:59.160 Angela Jaritana.

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00:38:14.300 What I try to do is faux journal.

00:38:17.340 I don't know.

00:38:17.700 Have you guys heard of faux journaling?

00:38:19.000 Yeah, it's reading.

00:38:19.900 It's called reading.

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00:38:23.440 Okay.

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00:38:28.600 No!

00:38:29.320 I've been dying too.

00:38:31.440 I'm so sorry.

00:38:32.120 I'm seeing a reading of Sadako and the Thousand Paper Cranes by Audra McDonald at the Wonderland Bookstore on 14th.

00:38:39.160 That's crazy.

00:38:39.680 I went to the Wonderland Bookstore yesterday, and I heard Nora Jones do a reading of Zero Dark Thirty.

00:38:44.220 No way.

00:38:45.300 We'll have to come to the last bookstore, though.

00:38:47.200 Kim Cattrall is reading the guitar tabs of yesterday.

00:38:51.760 A panel of Eurovision participants.

00:38:54.220 And we do a little Halloween sometimes.

00:38:56.480 Does the Pope dress up?

00:38:57.840 He winks on Halloween.

00:39:00.080 He gets right up next to the microphone.

00:39:01.340 I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.

00:39:04.940 You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.

00:39:10.340 Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:39:17.100 Are they supposed to still pay me?

00:39:19.080 Are they not paying you?

00:39:20.480 Are they supposed to?

00:39:22.220 It's insane, man.

00:39:23.440 Can you pay what you don't see?

00:39:27.320 John, I'm sorry.

00:39:28.180 We don't want to send the check.

00:39:30.460 we can't see you so we don't we were we were so nervous about making these jokes and we're so

00:39:34.900 happy that you're making them do you ever get sick of the not once no once uh i i went through a

00:39:40.400 stretch where i was like man this has got some stain because like the first time i heard it i

00:39:46.620 think might have been 09 right it's 2024 yeah bro and i still am invisible my my brother met him

00:39:55.380 today just jake and i was so fucking happy to meet him an inspiration to me like i was moved

00:40:03.600 by the doc like i i thought it was so vulnerable and great and and for someone like i said to to 0.61

00:40:09.140 start so late and achieve fluency and mastery so quickly is just a byproduct of hard work effort

00:40:16.340 i i'm drawn to passion and effort i'm like yo he goes over here he's like john hey

00:40:24.100 i'm like god i gotta do the thing one more time damn say he told me he was gonna do it i wasn't

00:40:30.300 sure i gotta be invisible one more time no but it's funny man it's great this you you found a 0.97

00:40:35.760 thing that really worked dude i have a superpower yeah i'm i'm fucking for real invisible yeah 0.75

00:40:41.420 one of the only people ever yeah but this is this is what john you've done so much right 0.81

00:40:47.280 not just in terms you said in the car that's what it's gonna be hashtag in the car you said in the

00:40:53.380 car about the south park gimmick yeah the south park episode you were pleased yeah what am i

00:40:59.980 supposed to say does it hurt my feelings no it's it's your way of saying your work affected me 0.54

00:41:04.200 some way it's fucking awesome it's fucking awesome right also you can't get your feelings hurt if 0.84

00:41:09.020 you don't have feelings to hurt hashtag sociopath conversation we had in the car this is different 0.97

00:41:15.900 but so much went right in your career your physique your look your ability ability on the

00:41:22.140 mic your branding um you can't see me your theme song john it's the it's one of the best theme

00:41:28.280 songs i think in the wwe if not the best nice nice how did everything go so right uh i was

00:41:41.640 able to weather the wrong uh i would say i have a less than baseball hall of fame batting average

00:41:47.120 you hit 300 you get in the hall of fame that's three hits out of every 10 at bats

00:41:50.460 um we talked about perseverance just the the ability to keep going and the ability to 0.93

00:41:57.300 know what is not working and i think what knocked me on my ass was when ruthless aggression failed 0.95

00:42:03.820 and i didn't pivot they said they were gonna let me go so i was like hey we're gonna put you

00:42:09.600 overseas for fall tour and then christmas time you probably and i was like yeah probably and

00:42:15.460 that's when i started to care less about what other people thought and be more of my genuine

00:42:22.400 self and in an accidental occurrence of that stephanie mcmahon overheard me rapping i've 0.98

00:42:27.260 told the story a bunch oh my god she said she said do you want to do that on tv i said fuck i get to 0.89

00:42:31.760 be on tv again yes and the just simple choices of like do you want to look cool or do you want to 0.98

00:42:38.420 look ridiculous i want to look ridiculous that early thuganomics stuff with like the vanilla

00:42:44.620 ice wig and like the blue sheepskin suit and like the yellow corduroys and the adidas bucket hats 0.97

00:42:51.680 like oh be i want to be the most ridiculous possible because i tried the other way and

00:42:56.300 people didn't connect at least they'll know who's coming out of the tunnel oh this is the rap kid 0.66

00:43:02.400 or this is the kid who thinks he's a rapper yeah great i i you know who i am i've told you myself

00:43:08.620 in one sentence that works yep so that's i guess it was because i got knocked out that i knew like

00:43:16.940 okay i need to do something different and then i just began trying and failing well that's i think

00:43:22.780 the formula of wwe at least from my perspective what it appears to be is like the crowd is the

00:43:29.580 decider of what works and you're not gonna know if it works until you're out there in front of

00:43:34.860 12 000 people playing your new theme song and seeing if there's a reaction when you come out

00:43:38.460 of the tunnel yes but it's also an ever-changing thing and every night is new data yeah and you

00:43:46.620 can't hang your hat on one audience understanding you um that's what i i loved about the period i

00:43:54.940 was able to be placed in there's so many 250 performances a year you know i i did that schedule

00:44:01.020 for 13 14 years before i started to decrease my involvement um i just got a lot of time in front

00:44:09.100 of an audience so you could really and i tried so much stuff that didn't work um but i just knew

00:44:16.540 like okay i've tried it 10 times i'm 0 for 10 punt it doesn't it doesn't work it's not it doesn't

00:44:22.980 work in the south it doesn't work on the west coast it doesn't work in europe punt yeah do

00:44:27.260 you feel like do you feel like there's a couple different directions you can go in life and

00:44:32.440 branding and wrestling one of them being that's a wide net it's life well i'll narrow it down for

00:44:38.500 you one of them being ridiculous thuganomics the other being so ruthlessly authentic to yourself

00:44:49.220 that people just say that's who this person really is and it you you did dr thongonomics 0.94

00:44:57.380 it worked because it was ridiculous are we seeing the real john cena right now are you are you 100%

00:45:04.920 authentic nowadays and how you present yourself on podcasts and the wwe on the couch i don't know

00:45:10.100 who else i could be uh we we spoke in the car uh about a lot of expectations for this show

00:45:19.060 define uh define yourself in a sentence or maybe even just a few words

00:45:24.580 john cena in the wwe existence is quite easy for me to define superman and i don't mean like

00:45:32.460 i'm i'm stronger than everybody i can outrun a speeding train or i'm stronger than a train or

00:45:38.320 faster than bullet whatever i mean superman acts with pure virtue uh superman has a moral code

00:45:45.360 um superman can be conflicted but when he's conflicted he his north star is his moral code

00:45:52.860 and his virtues it it affects the body language it affects your delivery it's it's why uh you

00:46:00.720 spoke you're like man i don't know when you're off script when you're on script neither do i

00:46:03.760 because you just get out there and you feel the energy now over the years there's been a difference

00:46:09.540 in superman the superman of the 2012 where man did they want cm punk to win the championship

00:46:17.320 because everybody was sick of me winning they were sick of superman which is the forever problem

00:46:22.880 with superman he's he's too good too good yeah now it's an older superman who is looking in the

00:46:30.760 mirror and saying i was this i'm not this anymore what am i now homelander i'm trying to figure it

00:46:39.660 out you're trying to figure it out how do we know you're not homelander how do we know how do we

00:46:44.020 know spider-man but i'm trying to i'm trying to figure it out i need your help hey guys i i don't 0.99

00:46:52.440 know how much time i have left and i gauge their interest off of that if they're like get the fuck

00:46:57.900 out i do know how much time i have left and it's now but uh it's it's fun to be able to play with

00:47:05.580 that dynamic of having that run and just the like just like the evolution of the the the doctor of

00:47:15.280 thugnomics that was a slow climb into it was an immediate shift into the rap guy and it was a slow

00:47:22.960 climb into the virtuous superman character that became the face of wwe uh anyway but then it was

00:47:32.420 a long period of time where that that character did well and uh now it's i i went on tv and said

00:47:40.380 i haven't won in 2700 days i haven't won a singles match in almost 3000 days is that true yeah it's

00:47:45.960 because solo had that spike is that's not fair i he did have the spike wasn't wasn't my night i

00:47:52.480 finish second but it's it's funny it's it's it's funny and interesting to tell that story so to

00:47:58.580 answer your question the person sitting before you is me the person you see in wwe is more of

00:48:06.620 me now than it ever has been in totality uh i don't know what the future will bring and i don't

00:48:13.820 know if i have to take the character or the arc anywhere else but this here this is me like even

00:48:20.240 before we started i i don't need to promote anything hey you're like hey we're going to

00:48:24.120 promote this project and this you don't need to promote anything we're just going to talk and

00:48:28.060 hopefully people are interested and if people are interested to be like i want to see what else that

00:48:31.780 dude's a part of i uh it's just ingrained in me like we did your show what drives you which is

00:48:36.620 coming out on roku later this year and you can watch it while you're drinking listen why why

00:48:41.140 would you why would you even care or even attempt to emulate or be superman when you could just be

00:48:49.640 peacemaker because i am fortunate enough to be able to don the the helmet i went from one costume

00:48:57.360 to another unbelievable john dude dude you've transcended that's that's part of the lore of

00:49:02.480 john cena is like all of a sudden we're seeing our favorite wrestler in movies and not just in

00:49:06.660 movies killing it hilarious too as well you have that comedy bone in you um amy schumer's train 0.57

00:49:15.420 wreck i showed him last night the scene in the movie theater with the homie call you mark walberg

00:49:19.740 hey you said well you said i don't know it's just hilarious but at one point you did make that

00:49:25.820 crossover and it worked why why go into acting and and and did you even like it train wreck uh

00:49:34.020 train wreck came out in 2015 i have been actively put in uh film and television since 2004

00:49:43.740 so i had my first match in 2002 and my first movie opportunity in 2004 so it took 11 years

00:49:51.620 for that crossover and that's the overnight sensation that people don't understand hold

00:49:55.720 on a second marine came out in 2006 marine was filmed in 2004 okay so train wreck came out in

00:50:03.580 2015 we filmed it in 14 so i'll i'll round down took 10 years but it still was happening and you

00:50:09.940 were good at it and it's i'll be honest the hollywood environment's much different than the

00:50:14.240 wwe environment so i disagree okay i disagree i used to think you were right uh everyone talks

00:50:21.120 about like oh we play big to the wwe and it's small to cinema they're correct but it's all

00:50:28.120 storytelling and it's all knowing the character knowing the story knowing your why being coachable

00:50:34.780 understanding your role on the chessboard at least from my perspective and the great thing is it's uh

00:50:39.960 it's objective and it's creative so everyone has their recipe for chicken soup anything i tell you

00:50:45.020 about wwe is only my lens it's not right or wrong it's just hey i this is the knowledge i have here

00:50:51.400 here you go. Enjoy. It took 10 years for me to find my flow, my comfort on screen. And that came

00:51:01.740 with great coaching. Judd Apatow and Amy Schumer gave me an environment to be myself. I'm in a

00:51:09.400 movie with comedians, comedians that get paid to make people laugh. You want to talk about an

00:51:16.560 outsider me not one of them made me feel like an outsider and they would be like just go for it

00:51:23.220 and if i i can't tell you how many takes they must have sat through that weren't funny

00:51:27.480 no way to get to the gold that they were able to to coach out of me to get on screen and then

00:51:32.980 the next group i got to work with was paul appell tina fey and amy poehler very funny people and

00:51:39.840 then from then on more funny people and more funny people so i put myself in a pool where i was far

00:51:46.120 from the smartest person in the room and wanted to soak up knowledge just like i did in the early

00:51:50.640 days of wwe wwe you had to level up fast and you did i just was around you know you don't have to

00:51:57.580 do anything well if you want to be good at what you do but i didn't even know i wanted to do that

00:52:02.600 i was still really enjoying wwe at the time and quite frankly the reason one of the many reasons

00:52:10.200 a lot of those early projects weren't successful is i want to be back in the ring dude you've been

00:52:14.500 in the ring i look at those images in the wall in your gym where you're in midair and the people

00:52:17.860 behind you're like yo look at this dude's face that doesn't happen on a movie set that doesn't

00:52:24.100 happen it is radio silent and it is really finite and the days are long yeah and it you have to you

00:52:32.900 have to have a certain mindset and as a young man in the traveling business with every town going

00:52:38.580 fucking nuts i did not have that mindset every time i had this golden tick of an opportunity 0.64

00:52:44.700 i was like i want to be back in the thing and the project sucked because i always wanted to be 0.99

00:52:48.640 elsewhere it's funny social media has that ability to grant the creator that instant gratification

00:52:56.140 and in a weird way wrestling is kind of similar it's the exact same it's live you can tell if you

00:53:02.540 did okay or not right now right away this is daunting though it can be daunting because you

00:53:09.420 got to put yourself out there you still get nervous every time no way i'm nervous for this

00:53:13.620 and that's not true no it is we're just sitting on the couch just hanging out so what does that

00:53:20.140 does that take the edge absolutely not we're we still get nervous too we come in here all the

00:53:25.020 time we're like yo we're i'm feeling rusty and then you get in the car you get in the ring and

00:53:29.240 do it for me i don't think it's about uh rust it's just you know like i said i want to really

00:53:36.500 try hard to be the the person i say to people that i am you're an achiever you're an overachiever

00:53:41.300 you do great at the things that you do yeah i think you're too kind no it's just true i i want

00:53:46.940 to ask quickly also uh you've described this pattern of turning hobbies into careers you said

00:53:54.260 it about wrestling when you were going to go be a marine and then you decided to be a wrestler

00:53:57.620 or wanted to try wrestling as a hobby then you looked at Hollywood kind of it seems like as a

00:54:04.140 you're going to try this as a as a person who also maintains a level of discipline in their life

00:54:09.580 how do you decide what things you want to do and when to steer clear to stay focused on the things

00:54:16.100 you're already doing well I think any any time you can do something that you that brings you joy

00:54:23.160 and get a few shekels from it, I think that's awesome.

00:54:28.100 So if you can crack that code, do more of that

00:54:30.760 because it doesn't mean things are without their tough days.

00:54:35.020 Sometimes turning a hobby into a profession

00:54:37.280 makes you hate that discipline altogether.

00:54:40.780 But if you can do it and you can thrive in that environment,

00:54:44.680 it's not going to be without its hard times,

00:54:46.020 but it's going to make the hard times a lot more rewarding.

00:54:48.660 um i think with with movies i just grew up and had some real life wisdom and

00:54:58.220 the the life of a wwe superstar is very fast and then like after 15 years of it you're like man

00:55:07.580 this is fast i gotta slow the ride down or it's gonna end soon and that might not be good

00:55:14.880 so uh i just think a little bit of just grown-up wisdom i don't come from any of this i'm i am a

00:55:22.240 kid from west newberry who did not begin documenting his life early who just tried to to do what i

00:55:28.760 could to do the best i could and then throughout my life i've just always been aware that like oh

00:55:34.520 this is something i should do um i got invited or i applied for preparatory school as a sophomore

00:55:42.900 because I idolized my cousin and he did.

00:55:45.620 It's the only reason I did.

00:55:47.220 But I went to the school campus.

00:55:48.560 I was like, this place rules.

00:55:50.520 I was thoroughly rejected

00:55:52.600 because I was a D student and a poor athlete.

00:55:55.660 The dean of admissions said,

00:55:56.800 hey, if you bring your grades to AB

00:55:58.520 and you can varsity in two sports,

00:56:01.040 we will consider you for reapplication.

00:56:03.100 Not you're hired.

00:56:04.700 I did.

00:56:06.060 And I reapplied and I was accepted.

00:56:09.000 So now as a 15-year-old,

00:56:10.960 I'm going to live at school.

00:56:12.600 I have to leave my friends and my social circle behind.

00:56:15.100 And as a 15-year-old, you have no scope of future.

00:56:19.220 And also, this is 1993, so it's a little bit different then.

00:56:24.320 I didn't want to go, but I was like, yo, I have to do this.

00:56:28.200 I didn't know what the yield would be.

00:56:30.180 And it turned out to that time in preparatory school set me up so much to gain fluency as a college student,

00:56:38.680 which allowed me to be proficient in athletics which allowed me to build friends and connections

00:56:43.620 and network to get me where i needed to be in california to get my friend to be like hey do

00:56:47.920 you want to go wrestle and just the fact of like i can go home and live at my dad's or i'm going to

00:56:53.000 have to shack up in the continental for a few weeks the backseat of a ford's pretty big i'll

00:56:57.700 just do that that's a choice of like no i mean i think we should do it i think we should try

00:57:03.120 so i i don't know if it's turning hobbies into careers but i do know when you get a chance

00:57:10.960 and someone's like hey just do whatever you want the rap thing was a chance for me to be

00:57:18.160 ridiculous and vulnerable don't take yourself too seriously and that's the first step to be 0.76

00:57:22.480 invulnerable train wreck was my first step to be invulnerable and then you can fast forward to 0.95

00:57:28.080 peacemaker where it is literally what i believe james gunn is james gunn's interpretation of me

00:57:33.660 kind of and there are spots in there where it's funny but there are also some spots in there where

00:57:39.800 i'm giving you all of myself unabashedly so and that comes from his coaching but it also comes

00:57:45.960 from one me not taking myself too serious and two me being okay being vulnerable on screen which is

00:57:50.620 those are two tough things james gunn is excellent he's great he's and a wonderful dude really so

00:57:56.700 That's always nice to hear.

00:57:58.100 I wanted to ask, do you think that your role in the Barbie movie

00:58:01.660 alongside Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie

00:58:03.980 is one of your most significant acting roles ever?

00:58:07.500 That was another great situation of opportunity knocking

00:58:11.320 and answering the door.

00:58:12.420 I wanted to be in that movie so bad.

00:58:14.520 No way.

00:58:15.220 And we were filming Fast 10 right in the lot next door.

00:58:19.440 And I love the Fast and Furious family.

00:58:22.380 I'm grateful for every minute that I get to spend with that crew.

00:58:25.300 they're they're just an awesome bunch but boy did i want to be in barbie

00:58:28.880 and i ran into margo robbie at a restaurant and i didn't even know she was there uh i had 0.96

00:58:37.680 paid for a meal for someone that uh i i wanted to do something nice for and she came running over

00:58:43.120 because she was sitting at that table said oh it's so nice to see her i can't believe i'm running 0.99

00:58:47.120 into you you should come and do barbie i'm like motherfucker no way i tried you wouldn't have me 0.94

00:58:51.620 she looked right around was like we're getting the kid apart so i'm so grateful for being a 0.97

00:58:58.600 merman for two seconds so funny i did not expect but so here's the thing of like margot robbie

00:59:04.980 comes out of nowhere you should do barbie i've been trying you won't have me we will have you

00:59:09.320 this very small role and you have to be a fish man you mean i get to be a fish man let's go yeah

00:59:16.040 yeah so again uh and even like talking to people around me who are supposed to make choices a lot

00:59:22.540 of the perception was like you're you're above this i believe i am above nothing well that's

00:59:26.940 why we love it john you came out as a mermaid or peacemaker with a helmet on

00:59:31.100 and it's it's hilarious like we can all feel you this big strong successful guy not taking

00:59:44.860 himself too seriously and like when those fall into play even like Dwayne The Rock Johnson's

00:59:50.320 done this ago a couple times it's like we love when a when a masculine man is not afraid to be 0.98

00:59:56.040 a fucking goofball well I think it's good to see to know everybody has a human side especially 0.98

01:00:02.960 people who keep themselves who you you have to show your human side or you've you've chosen to 1.00

01:00:08.720 show your human side because you show yourself all the time so people can't get away from all

01:00:13.720 they see the good the bad and the ugly yeah if you only go to see the movie you only know the

01:00:18.620 person from the movie and when they show up on the carpet to promote the movie you don't necessarily

01:00:22.720 see all of them so those social media changed everything those moments are precious when they

01:00:28.560 can let their guard down and be like man that's a person i i want to get to know i want to get to

01:00:32.880 know more did you get to know dua lipa and does she embody the essence of superstar because

01:00:39.660 absolutely does because she she was a mer woman she was a mer woman next to you she's also an 0.98

01:00:44.600 argyle in argyle i saw you yank her off the vespa in the trailer and you guys now there'll be two

01:00:49.700 movies together you're hanging out with dua lipa yeah she a superstar you guys friends uh yes and

01:00:55.900 i hope yes she's given me some great uh restaurant recommendations in london uh so i thank her

01:01:02.760 because uh my wife is my wife and i what we love a lot is to to um have philosophy over dinner or

01:01:10.080 meals and sit down like kind of what we did in the car uh but using food as the vehicle pun intended

01:01:17.200 so she gave me some great recommendations and we keep in touch and it's not like i'm

01:01:21.580 doing any more than that yeah i feel like that you guys aren't friends at all that's what i just

01:01:26.540 heard okay that's fair no but you're you're like your colleagues your peers they say perspective

01:01:31.380 as reality you work you're you're you work together so uh was she nice at least i don't

01:01:37.400 know what did you hear i heard she was nice okay i heard that same thing so we can we can agree on

01:01:41.920 that she was nice i i did i did actually hear multiple times uh you roaming around london

01:01:47.340 particularly like a couple coffee shops do you have a place in london uh a few but i can't

01:01:54.100 announce them because they will they will no longer be my place yeah yeah but then there will

01:01:57.920 be more videos of people harassing you which are our favorite video they're not they're not no no

01:02:02.540 that's okay don't harass john cena by the way that's totally okay uh i am big on hard work

01:02:08.180 loyalty and respect and also accountability john they're our favorite videos because of how you

01:02:14.840 react to these people i appreciate it is so there's it just embodies so much class some of these

01:02:20.960 people are i'll leave it out but they don't know how to approach the situations in the right way

01:02:27.240 will say it like that no way that you respond is is very admirable man it's tough when you get

01:02:32.540 uh trolls no it's when you get emotional about something it's tough to make sense of it all

01:02:41.600 and uh i'm i'm not at all perfect but again try to be who you say you are so uh

01:02:49.380 i i also try to have more empathy now every day and i understand hey if this video makes it i'm

01:02:58.400 on easy street yeah but in the realm of having empathy what about me like i'm just i'm just

01:03:04.960 trying to buy my coffee yeah i'm just trying to buy my coffee so uh but you know i i don't know

01:03:11.240 i guess i just try to uh handle those things one at a time and not let my emotions completely

01:03:15.480 dominate the situation which is a massive learning for people in life and it's it's impossible to bat

01:03:21.620 a thousand i don't think we've seen you proper flip out every time i've seen it at least go viral

01:03:27.640 people always side with you because you're just like hey like be respectful to me and i'll be

01:03:32.760 respectful to you i'm trying to have a lunch right now to me it's not about the win of the situation

01:03:37.960 it's uh am i who i say i am you know man more people were on your side than the other guys

01:03:46.060 what does that even mean if i say i act like this did i act like that and if i did not i should

01:03:52.820 apologize and be accountable and find a way to fix it do you draw the line somewhere um

01:03:59.260 i think everyone has their line uh but i also am each day i'm more and more understanding of

01:04:07.140 this crazy life and i try to be more and more understanding of anyone who asks of my time

01:04:13.000 and i assume that happens a lot like when you're out you're not

01:04:16.260 i don't know if you could be disguised i keep a pretty small footprint and i'm invisible

01:04:23.480 oh look he goes oh no so i just i we you know i have a few places that i feel pretty

01:04:31.200 pretty safe at and uh i don't try to make a scene we just enjoy company and food and

01:04:37.720 and that's that are you a foodie would you consider yourself a foodie um what is a foodie

01:04:42.680 well it just seemed like you were so uh vastly interested in the con uh the recommendations

01:04:49.920 uh from your from your co-star yeah and you and you like to enjoy food while talking about the

01:04:55.220 deeper things of life yeah uh with your wife so i just was curious and friends too do you have a

01:05:00.200 favorite food um baked goods man really baked goods rolls croissants bring it really baked

01:05:09.900 goods it's my week i was like i was like downstairs i was like john like i had i had a little bit of

01:05:14.560 like a back and forth with marijuana like i had to cut it off like what's your vice he goes

01:05:18.500 baked goods brother just could be a blueberry muffin or a pizza scones you name it no way

01:05:24.200 you ever had a cronut yes it's a mix of a donut and a croissant yeah yeah i have you bring it i

01:05:29.860 mean i've been i've been good bro you're you're pushing me right now you're like grands flaky

01:05:34.000 grands what is that like pillsbury you put them in the oven and they flake up you rip off like a

01:05:38.500 layer at a time like layer sounds delicious butter them up dude it sounds delicious so that's so you

01:05:45.580 must love uh germany like places that just specialize in those type of bakery goods those

01:05:51.320 are great sweet could you be lured into a bakery by a open chimney giving off whiffs of freshly

01:05:59.340 I could be lured into almost anything.

01:06:02.200 No.

01:06:04.600 Yes.

01:06:05.700 Yes.

01:06:06.340 Does discipline come into play when?

01:06:08.280 Yes.

01:06:08.760 It is the one thing I have little self-control over.

01:06:12.140 Wow.

01:06:12.240 And it is very hard for me to like, hey, I'd like to eat all those cookies right now.

01:06:17.340 Are you on a strict diet?

01:06:19.840 No.

01:06:20.420 I just, so diets are tough because they can only last so long.

01:06:25.300 my philosophy is just make over the aggregate make a bunch of good decisions that's it we all

01:06:33.260 know what's healthy and what's not zoom out do more of the healthy stuff do less the unhealthy

01:06:37.480 stuff in a workout so how do you have that physique i keep track of all that stuff and

01:06:44.180 look at the long-term economics and they all match up but i assume you're hitting the gym

01:06:49.160 pretty regularly like a lot less nowadays like four days a week where i used to be like you and

01:06:53.500 six but um life travel uh i have a different set of important priorities the the work day in wwe

01:07:01.700 is a lot shorter than the work day on set you know you'll you'll do 12 on set but then

01:07:05.780 transportation's on either side so you're like 15 and a half yeah i need sleep yeah like recovery

01:07:10.900 is the most important thing because yeah sure i can keep my muscular development but how's that

01:07:16.400 going to help me do the great work that i need to do on screen so you get a five-day week where

01:07:21.880 you're working 15 a day you just sleep and hopefully get two in on the weekends and manage

01:07:26.700 yourself with that you pull back a little bit more on the calories make sure you monitor everything 0.99

01:07:30.280 that's just all it's not rocket science it's not do you do any of the new age uh shit you you into 0.95

01:07:37.780 like nad do you cold plunge like what type of recovery stuff are you into uh nad that's where 0.98

01:07:42.900 i can't talk about things that have happened yeah um no no no that's it that's amnesia oh yeah yeah

01:07:47.760 that's amnesia gotcha okay yeah have you signed an nda so what what is uh what just you know

01:07:55.160 peptides kind of like new age have you ever done stem cells we we talked about this none

01:08:02.220 of that stuff got it i can't believe he's not into stem cells well he's an old school

01:08:05.440 he needs more info he says so that that's pretty much it like um i'm not against any of that i'm

01:08:12.640 not against any method that works uh one do i need it and two have i exhausted all resources

01:08:21.160 before it traditionality i'm i'm still absolutely drug free for life i get my testosterone tested

01:08:27.280 every every third every every not every quarter three times a year will you say your level

01:08:32.860 uh the last one was 840 whoa damn john that's good so as a as a 46 year old man i'm still in 0.76

01:08:39.480 a good spot yeah so i don't i don't need that dimension yet now time is undefeated and i love 0.51

01:08:46.320 working out so when that drops to be critical that discussion will take place it will only take place

01:08:52.980 if that drops below critical and so does everything else so if testosterone drops below critical and i

01:08:59.080 still maintain strength gains health wellness sex drive then you don't need it and even if then you

01:09:06.720 say you need it you have to say have i done all i can before i hit the thing to launch the fire

01:09:12.220 alarm and right now um proper warm-up for me getting in there and going as hard as i can

01:09:19.620 knowing when i have to pull back and proper flexibility are the things that i can control

01:09:25.640 that i don't need any equipment to bring with me tough to bring a cold plunge with you when you

01:09:29.180 fly from san diego to puerto rico and then to nashville and back to la um so that that's within

01:09:34.980 my realm of possibility making good health choices staying hydrated what about skin care

01:09:39.220 because your skin's incredible it's great it's really nice it's really not you have really good

01:09:43.620 skin thank you so much how do you how do you maintain it so volcanic ash no no it's uh three

01:09:49.280 inches of foundation nice lathered on with a with a spatula is annie still here no it's just

01:09:57.920 it's foundation it's all the baked goods it is a life of a life of baked goods no i do i do

01:10:03.640 appreciate that uh my my wife would appreciate that she helps me with my skin care you brought

01:10:09.420 up priorities a couple minutes ago and i'm sure they shift as you continue to evolve age-wise

01:10:15.720 uh slowly and i think they i think they should shift always for recently well i just i want to

01:10:21.480 ask about these two things one was you were going to be a marine but didn't but do a ton of impact

01:10:29.120 work with the troops and i want to ask about that and also the fact that you are the most granted

01:10:34.380 make-a-wish foundation uh grantor of all time with over 650 kids what how do you choose your

01:10:41.280 your impact uh cases and and what does it mean to you both of them chose me again um i'm less of a

01:10:49.000 manifester and more of a card player the cards get dealt i look to see what i got and then i'm like

01:10:54.480 all right let's let's play it out uh wwe had a has a great relationship with make a wish

01:11:00.600 long before i came along it's an excellent vehicle for the charity because you get one-on-one time

01:11:06.880 with the families you can get to know people and then you get to go out and perform for them

01:11:10.800 but because it's entertainment i can literally ask like hey so what do you want to see tonight

01:11:15.800 and just put it into the show wow and then i know where people are sitting so i can i can truly

01:11:21.620 curate an experience that is an escape and that's why that piece of philanthropy exists in my life

01:11:31.920 because i was associated with one of the best experiences to do so wwe also has a strong

01:11:37.600 relationship with the armed forces so they've been doing the tribute to the troops for a long time

01:11:41.900 and when we got to go to iraq and afghanistan during some some pretty gamey situations

01:11:47.200 man it was so rewarding so rewarding and anybody that's been over there i'll tell you the same

01:11:52.680 thing but these are people that i i looked up to i look up to i will look up to so uh even

01:11:58.880 post tribute to the troops i was involved for a while with a charity called fit ops which is a

01:12:04.320 suicide prevention program and a program of professional readiness to take people's

01:12:09.800 skill set from the armed forces employment direction of a career path life after the

01:12:13.580 service um it just uh you know the fact that somebody could take the oath to make the ultimate

01:12:21.680 sacrifice for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness and then get home and want to kill

01:12:26.400 themselves to me it just didn't mesh so whatever i could do to help that out i just wanted to be a

01:12:31.500 part of it but those those two things were brought to me so uh i've never been much somebody to like

01:12:39.160 search stuff out it's i just like i said i'm always ready for when it knocks both of those

01:12:44.140 uh cases obviously have um your cord skills are amazing by the way thank you i play with

01:12:48.800 them i've seen you wrap that thing around your finger around your leg you made a tourniquet 0.99

01:12:53.900 with that son of a bitch you got that hey hey yo yo i don't want to see that guy in my podcast 1.00

01:12:59.880 studio kevin owns rumble young man rumble someone is hurt bro i'm gonna start making heroin jokes 1.00

01:13:08.380 please don't these these two things uh obviously have like just so much baked into them so much

01:13:16.060 uh emotion and and feeling whether it be uh troops you know veterans people that have

01:13:22.240 sacrificed their life for this country or or kids who are going through uh another ultimate

01:13:27.620 form of struggle in in terminal illness um were there any cases that were really really hard for

01:13:34.540 you anything that sticks out in your mind that was a time for you that was actually challenging

01:13:39.260 for you to actually to to enact that you know um i'd i'd much rather talk about the fact that

01:13:48.960 two very different pools with me acting as a conduit for the same vehicle the ability to

01:13:58.760 be entertained and escape and in some in some cases a helping hand when one needs one um

01:14:05.940 regardless of the experiences those those ones that i have though they're for here some of the

01:14:10.820 stuff isn't for film yep yep um but what a contrast of groups yeah and i'm trying to straddle

01:14:18.840 no no that's fine because the common thread is everyone comes together to enjoy and that's what

01:14:25.700 I love about the WWE experience. When you're in, you're in. If it's your first one, you get swept

01:14:31.780 up. And if you're a fan, you walk through the turnstile and you know it's on. It doesn't matter

01:14:37.300 where you come from. It doesn't matter why you're there. When the lights go on and they do the intro,

01:14:42.340 everybody's on the same team. And I love that about what we do. And it can provide hope for

01:14:48.660 someone who's young and facing a struggle, someone who's enlisted in facing a struggle,

01:14:53.820 someone who needs an escape in any sort of facet,

01:14:56.120 someone who's being bullied, someone, it doesn't matter.

01:14:59.040 We all share that common thread, and that's special to me.

01:15:03.520 Such an excellent leader, and the way you talk and think is so admirable.

01:15:10.380 The generosity you have with your time is just amazing, John.

01:15:16.340 And I personally, and I told you this,

01:15:19.980 was a little surprised by your decision not to make another john and have kids and bring more

01:15:27.540 of this energy into the world because i think we need more good people more people with virtues

01:15:32.280 like yourself um but you've decided at least as it stands you know like you said in the car

01:15:38.280 the moment hasn't arrived yet and you haven't felt it and uh i think you should reconsider

01:15:43.640 and have a baby you know i i appreciate that and i can i can understand everyone's perspective

01:15:49.920 I truly do appreciate that.

01:15:52.140 I have a lot of joy and love in my life.

01:15:54.280 I feel fulfilled and I'm still curious.

01:15:56.780 And I think until those priorities shift,

01:16:00.020 I really do enjoy where I'm at.

01:16:02.620 Do you mind donating some sperm

01:16:04.720 for me to raise one of your babies? 1.00

01:16:09.420 You really want 46-year-old worms 1.00

01:16:12.500 from the guy who parked in the little cock parking out there?

01:16:15.720 First off, I parked there and that's my spot. 0.99

01:16:17.660 so don't you dare 1.00

01:16:20.200 don't you dare take my little cock 1.00

01:16:22.440 no no no I'm not sure if 1.00

01:16:24.460 Nina would be the surrogate mother

01:16:26.600 but I'll find a surrogate mother and I will raise a John Cena

01:16:28.920 I swear to god

01:16:29.840 I think I'm alright

01:16:31.660 I think I'm alright not telling

01:16:33.360 okay okay okay well can you then at least be

01:16:37.040 dad father figure

01:16:39.120 for a second and give us some advice

01:16:41.200 or not just give some

01:16:43.140 give some general advice because I feel like you give

01:16:45.140 good advice even just the advice

01:16:47.160 you've given me today has been excellent i thank you for that but because i'm not a parent there's

01:16:51.200 no way i could put on a parent's cap so i don't want to put myself in a perspective what about

01:16:54.840 just a leader or a inspiration or motivation for people which you are and you can't deny that

01:17:00.680 okay uh i can i can deny anything deny deny deny what are you pointing to on the notes

01:17:07.220 i want him to pull up a video oh yeah just because well what would you do if this happened 1.00

01:17:12.740 This woman came in a precarious situation, and we wanted to see what you would do in this situation. 0.93

01:17:18.320 Okay, let's see what we got. 0.70

01:17:20.280 Let's see what we got.

01:17:20.860 Hold on.

01:17:21.340 I just want to do this properly.

01:17:23.540 Logan hates when I mess up my technology here.

01:17:25.880 All right, ready? 1.00

01:17:26.680 So this woman. 1.00

01:17:27.500 Make sure you show him the video. 1.00

01:17:28.480 Yep, yep.

01:17:28.760 Here we go.

01:17:29.940 Yep, I got all of it.

01:17:30.860 I have all of it covered right now.

01:17:33.860 I'm home, and my driveway's gone.

01:17:36.440 What used to be a concrete slab outside 1438 Bethesda Street

01:17:40.800 is now a patch of dirt that she didn't ask for.

01:17:44.160 Someone took her driveway as she was trying to get ready for Christmas.

01:17:47.940 Of all the things he...

01:17:50.440 Okay, so I've seen your video.

01:17:57.820 What are we talking about? 0.79

01:17:59.440 What would you like to say to this woman? 0.60

01:18:00.760 What do you do?

01:18:01.300 What advice do you have for her?

01:18:03.200 Her car wasn't stolen, John.

01:18:04.560 Her driveway was stolen.

01:18:05.620 okay so a piece of news that makes each of us feel differently you're you're tearing up

01:18:12.260 as you should it's sad yeah so uh what when something like this happens

01:18:19.060 and i have never had my driveway stolen 0.98

01:18:21.660 uh but when when the proverbial driveway shit hits the fan yeah right totally um in all honesty 0.96

01:18:34.180 I ask myself, what can I control? 0.98

01:18:38.640 Can she get her original driveway back? 0.91

01:18:41.240 Does she have the money to have a new driveway? 0.99

01:18:43.240 Does she have the vehicle to go fund me for a driveway? 0.77

01:18:46.240 What are the resources does she have?

01:18:47.700 How important is the driveway?

01:18:49.100 What can you control right now?

01:18:52.480 And then if the things that are,

01:18:55.940 like the stuff that is beyond your control,

01:18:58.960 let go and focus on the stuff you can control.

01:19:03.380 That's it.

01:19:04.180 so if it is just the perspective of i didn't take my car okay cool that gets you through the day

01:19:11.180 or man what can i do immediately within my power and my financial reach to put 0.93

01:19:16.700 crushed gravel down there and we're talking about a crazy video of a lady who got her driveway taken

01:19:22.640 which we're even getting laughter from way off camera because it's just but so what i what i 1.00

01:19:30.740 see in that video is shit happens every day your fucking driveway got taken 0.99

01:19:37.760 but what a what a what a better what a there isn't a better example of what is within my control 1.00

01:19:51.840 serenity prayer and what can i do now big time yeah big time grant me the strength that can you

01:19:57.880 know what to control the things that i can and wisdom to know the difference yeah for sure yes

01:20:02.660 and i think that's huge because that how how do you even navigate something like that but what a

01:20:09.120 what a crazy funny microcosm that we can have a laugh at but if the a good takeaway there is 0.76

01:20:16.460 okay this has happened can i control the fact that i need to be fucking angry for 20 minutes 0.92

01:20:23.700 guys go over there i'm gonna yell into a pill or i'm going to the gym or i'm gonna i need to do 0.93

01:20:29.320 what i need to do with light in my backpack because i need to be angry that's within my

01:20:32.380 control that's i want to do that and that'll help me move forward but once you get there okay what

01:20:37.440 what can i do now to make this bad situation better another example of that and something 0.99

01:20:44.160 are you gonna all right here we go let's absolutely crushed you sons of bitches won't 0.99

01:20:48.620 no no this is good this is a good transition uh things you can't control there was a moment 1.00

01:20:56.040 you dave batista the royal rumble you both i don't know if it was on purpose doesn't feel

01:21:03.040 like it went over the rope at the same exact time because of what appeared to be some sort

01:21:07.100 of balance issue it was not dave's fault that was on me you over rotated forward and he stumbled

01:21:12.860 backward very uh very bad at rotating backwards i see well however my fault it transpired you guys

01:21:21.340 went over the rope at the royal rumble which is the method of elimination by the way that's all

01:21:25.080 anyone's ever going to take away from this podcast seen a botched royal rumble spot go ahead it

01:21:31.160 happened it's my fault i can't flip backwards no it's totally my fault i hope they take the

01:21:36.460 driveway part from this not a chance not a chance what would you do if you three guys like the

01:21:42.160 driveway bit watch no one's ever i challenge you to like it no one's ever gonna like the driveway

01:21:48.640 bit please be crying for days about it okay but you guys went over the rope you and batista

01:21:55.560 laying the ground the same time not really the same time it appeared i looked at the bounce of

01:22:01.020 these two large men trampoline same time it looked like it was the same time that wasn't planned i'm

01:22:06.500 sure it was not i'm positive and by the way that those are the moments that people are waiting for

01:22:09.900 wrestling because they're the best and can bring out the best moments how did you recover from that

01:22:15.780 in like the best way possible and the refs raising your hand and his hand and your hand and his hand

01:22:20.180 and when a moment like that happens at an event that big with that many people watching live 0.81

01:22:23.820 what do you do uh trust the process so we i know i fucked up and we know that that's not the way 0.84

01:22:35.500 it's supposed to go. So now we're in the unknown and there is a sense of guidance. We're all a 0.93

01:22:41.200 team out there. So our referee can be a guide for us. We're all on the same team. You begin to

01:22:46.280 listen to the ref and you begin to listen to the audience and you feel how long you can milk a

01:22:51.000 moment and see if they're giving you any direction. And then as we trust the process, out comes Vince

01:22:57.500 McMahon. And we're like, oh great, this is going to be fixed. And he tears both of his quads

01:23:04.600 getting into the ring oh no so uh but still to the to the testament of the the work ethic and

01:23:16.240 just the absolute gumption and dedication of vincent man with torn quads he gets himself in

01:23:21.820 the ring and gives us the guidance to finish the event and because he is the authority figure in

01:23:27.320 wwe he can say restart the match and we restart it and dave wins so just oh man what do i do now

01:23:36.680 trust what's happening trust what's around you trust the people to guide you when you don't 0.81

01:23:41.180 know what's going on and then just be present in your surroundings and yes i did fuck up but

01:23:46.900 even then i knew like don't rush to do anything let's see what's going to happen let's see what's

01:23:52.700 going on that's got to be one of the greatest moments in wwe i cannot believe vince with two

01:23:57.660 torn quads was able to speak to us in understandable dialect and tell us exactly what to do

01:24:04.020 like it was we had the best seat in the house and it was incredible insane i'm watching this

01:24:12.000 and now that i'm in it my mind is just blown like the way his hands raised your hands raised he 0.99

01:24:18.260 throws you out you get back in and say no fuck you throw him out then vince comes it was just 0.98

01:24:22.020 it's so good and that's the stuff you can't write but that's that's us all being a team 0.99

01:24:27.860 a lot of performers or not a lot some performers go out there to try to be the best individual

01:24:33.540 i think when you can rely on each other out there and let everybody shine is when the whole thing

01:24:39.140 creates moments that we never forget you have so many of those in the wwe and i'm gonna do this

01:24:44.980 i didn't want to do this i'm gonna do it i'm gonna give you superly oh no favorite match

01:24:48.900 my next one god damn he's answered this question before he's had his driveway stolen in the past

01:24:55.380 he knows nobody's gonna like the driveway bits they will they will what would you do 1.00

01:25:04.500 control what you can man control what you can you go home fuck where the 1.00

01:25:10.340 fuck is my driveway driveway's gone i would i would hotwire your uh your off-road vehicle jeep 1.00

01:25:16.260 You don't need a driver. 0.99

01:25:18.880 You are going to have a next match, though?

01:25:20.460 That's what I heard just now?

01:25:22.760 So, yes.

01:25:24.040 I hope so.

01:25:24.900 I am not officially done.

01:25:26.680 I know that I'm close, bud.

01:25:29.080 I'm close.

01:25:29.980 I can feel it.

01:25:31.000 You can tell.

01:25:32.640 Especially seeing you out there doing incredible stuff.

01:25:37.140 And just our talent now, the product has become so crisp and so fast and so skilled.

01:25:43.560 uh it it is a different world and i love it and i still feel fluent and i would like to say good

01:25:52.020 goodbye when i still feel fluent so uh it's it's coming and like to the point where you know at

01:25:59.080 that moment in the sunset where you're like when it starts to go down man it's going down real fast

01:26:03.100 that's kind of where i'm at i'm not i'm not done uh but but i need to decide when i am

01:26:10.280 do you ever see yourself taking a more executive role like a triple h no i think what i would love

01:26:18.500 to to give to the business is just my time and i live very close to the performance center

01:26:24.880 and i would like to to go in as a guest that way i'm not obligated and they're not obligated in

01:26:31.800 any way it's stuff i do on my free time anyway i love going in just picking people's brains

01:26:36.480 having conversations about like so who are you and they're being like what what does that have

01:26:41.520 to do anything oh only everything yeah let's talk yeah so uh i enjoy that and doing you know half a

01:26:48.020 day there and then and then going back to normal life so i don't know what i'll do i mean i there

01:26:53.000 i'm fortunate enough to have some other stuff going on so uh i'll be focusing on that too but

01:26:58.200 um you know i i don't know i always want to be involved in the business i i get so passionate

01:27:05.700 about it and it's something that i love and and i think i have a few pieces of wisdom that need to

01:27:10.880 be passed on and i don't think they should should die with me so uh i'll i'll try to do that the

01:27:15.820 best i can i'm i'm gonna extract that wisdom from your brain i will i will siphon it all day you

01:27:20.480 watching the product at all you um paying attention up to date there's first of all there's a lot of

01:27:25.020 product out there to watch there is uh i catch it when i can but like i said if i'm dedicated to

01:27:31.640 something i can being being a dedicated wrestling fan is a full-time profession it is absolutely a

01:27:38.280 full-time job so uh i'm trying to be a dedicated husband a dedicated professional and uh still

01:27:45.460 still have balance in my life so i catch it when i can and and and i enjoy it when i do catch it

01:27:50.980 so you saw the rocks return i did when he went out there and he said you think i should sit at

01:27:56.660 the head of the table do you think he had that line written on his wrist no because one thing

01:28:04.420 i know about dwayne he never makes the same mistake twice

01:28:08.020 did he know you were gonna do that i didn't know i was gonna do that no way no i didn't

01:28:14.520 know i was gonna do that it was one of those things where uh it happened in last minute and uh 0.99

01:28:20.000 looking back at it it was fucking stupid because we have the biggest star in the world 0.99

01:28:29.340 coming back when they don't need to like giving our product ratings giving our product relevancy 1.00

01:28:37.940 getting people to talk about us and what do i do you smoked them no amateur like no that's not it

01:28:46.340 the guy is going a million different directions probably flew in from god knows where working a

01:28:52.180 full day and i know i now know what that feels like and just wants to do the best he can

01:28:59.620 i don't blame him for that i blame myself for taking advantage of that and a professional

01:29:05.300 professional would have been like hey before you go out there if you do go out there like that 0.91

01:29:11.220 i'm going to use it that's a professional i had a stupid rookie move about use it that's not 0.83

01:29:20.980 that's not how we trust each other in there it's not how that works i don't see that perspective

01:29:26.560 okay that's cool i get it by the way i thought it was great as an entertainment like fan for

01:29:34.680 from an entertainment standpoint objective achieved gained interest box office was crazy

01:29:40.760 set pay-per-view buy rates sometimes in the fight game it gets a little gray yeah but we're all on 0.73

01:29:48.020 the fucking same team out there man and you gotta have trust what if he said no boxing ring then i 0.56

01:29:54.020 don't use it really then i don't use it but what about the box office i would entertain another 0.98

01:30:02.320 way there's more than one way to solve a creative puzzle yeah yeah that's and that's where you build

01:30:08.240 trust and that's where people really shine and that's where you bring the best out of people

01:30:11.920 and that's why when i sit down with people i literally first of all i make sure to sit down

01:30:17.520 with them and let's you got to go way back you can't just tell that moment in the story

01:30:21.500 i spent years calling out the rock saying that man if you love the business you should be back 0.99

01:30:27.400 what a fucking hypocrite i am i love the business i should be back i should be back all the time 0.98

01:30:34.260 but i'm not i it's is it tuesday today what is it tuesday yeah tuesday yesterday was monday 0.99

01:30:40.620 where the hell was i at raw why wasn't i yeah we were wondering that yeah exactly

01:30:44.940 we watch raw we watched drew mcdorff flames em punk well i was only watching because i thought

01:30:51.040 he was coming out you didn't show up yeah and i didn't show up but i can sit here and say i love 0.97

01:30:55.900 the business but i'm super hypocritical in my approach from being young and stupid of course so

01:31:02.760 rock was already pretty upset with me about that because all he'd given to the business and the 0.88

01:31:08.720 without him i don't get a chance to do the other stuff and without him i don't get a chance in

01:31:14.640 wrestling he was so popular and helped rise the tide which helped split competition which helped

01:31:20.140 the hiring spree which benjamin buttoned me into getting a defensive contract which i parlayed into

01:31:24.800 a thing where to be on tv because he left and did all this stuff and now i get a chance i owe a lot

01:31:29.700 to that and that the the methodology i wanted to sell tickets there's a right way and a wrong way

01:31:37.280 to do it was he pissed he was and justifiably so yeah because he's a guy who's got his heart in it

01:31:44.400 he still comes back bro yeah and the people go crazy crazy he's just so good no kidding so my

01:31:54.560 inside I'm thinking man if I can get under

01:31:57.020 his skin I can get him back 1.00

01:31:58.360 I could have gotten back a bunch of 1.00

01:32:00.980 different ways yeah you didn't have to be a dick 0.98

01:32:03.040 about it bro yeah so 0.99

01:32:04.900 my bad 0.80

01:32:06.740 must be crazy to piss off the rock

01:32:08.580 I can only imagine it was

01:32:10.280 it was a little gamey there for a little bit yeah

01:32:12.500 yeah we went through a nice stretch we just

01:32:14.840 didn't like each other you pissed him off too right

01:32:16.860 oh no I haven't

01:32:19.360 have you no

01:32:20.440 you're twiddling your thumbs over there

01:32:22.220 what did you

01:32:24.300 oh you pissed off the room come on bro what happened man no it's nothing no what happened

01:32:33.820 man uh let's start from square one what happened tell me a story do you really want to know 0.66

01:32:40.100 i wouldn't ask if i didn't and you know that about me you sure you're not tired you've been

01:32:44.040 you took a red eye here we've been shooting all day you and i have been talking for six hours you

01:32:48.040 gotta be sick of me no this i dig this this is all right i told you in the car nobody's gonna buy

01:32:58.880 the driveway i was getting ready for christmas what happened um i told you in the car in the car

01:33:09.640 uh that you know you you you and duane i think were like two people i definitely looked up to

01:33:18.000 a lot when i'm trying to figure out the blueprint for my career that didn't exist um dwayne

01:33:24.260 especially my idol dude's in his own universe my hero like in his own universe that the universe

01:33:33.080 he was doing it and and to the highest degree i wanted to be like dwayne

01:33:37.960 so eventually in the same way i met you today one day i met dwayne

01:33:43.080 he was just as cool in person as i thought he was on tv he was he's awesome made content together

01:33:51.280 went mega viral 70 million views 50 million views linked up a couple times um visiting him on set

01:33:58.860 of ballers like i would have considered us acquaintances at least you know kind of like

01:34:03.560 me and duolipa kind of like you and duolipa maybe even closer dude i would say closer closer i would 0.92

01:34:10.380 say close we're just we're just co-workers he was just great and then um fuck um and then japan

01:34:20.220 happened japan happened and you know i could go into so much depth about my remorse and the place 0.95

01:34:30.360 that i was in and the faults that i made at that time in my life and i had to really rewire my

01:34:37.640 brain and backtrack and ask myself like how I let that happen and what went wrong in my life where

01:34:42.660 like I thought that was okay and in that process I did a lot of damage and it wasn't something that

01:34:50.260 was on the forefront of my mind and I've had to do a tremendous amount of therapy and figure out

01:34:56.500 like what happened in my life that was so traumatic or didn't happen where again that I did that and

01:35:02.680 um dj was one of the people i hurt because of his mother's um experience and that that's his

01:35:10.140 experience to tell and i'm not going to share but like i i i hurt him so much so that um

01:35:16.280 he he basically wanted nothing to do with me and rightfully so you know i i let down my hero

01:35:28.000 and he requested that i remove all the content we've ever done together and

01:35:34.000 basically kicked me to the curb i would have done the same thing guy in his position doesn't want

01:35:38.960 to be affiliated with a person who did uh something as reprehensible as that and

01:35:44.600 i remember it being such a low moment because like i knew i let myself down i knew i let my

01:35:51.820 fans down i knew i let my family down but my idol too

01:35:56.180 man it just stunk so bad and it wasn't like i got the call from him

01:36:02.580 got it from the publicist and it's not like he did anything wrong it's just like i think my ego 0.91

01:36:13.580 told myself that i'm gonna fucking remember that and if i ever become a great one day like you

01:36:23.940 i'm gonna remember this and i'm gonna remember the way i was discarded and again rightfully so 0.75

01:36:28.700 um but i i don't think i've ever been really able to like truly let go of that and uh

01:36:37.980 i got a lot of stuff to work through i think in in terms of that and i'm not even sure like

01:36:46.680 where to go from here in terms of reconciliation um

01:36:53.760 yeah i don't know and we're kind of like swimming in the same world a little bit

01:37:02.860 you know with the wwe and i i see him coming back here and there and i know we're going to cross

01:37:09.540 paths and i just wonder how i'm going to handle it if i may with an anecdote you told me a story

01:37:16.840 earlier today about one of the toughest times in your in your recent life where your fiance was put

01:37:23.700 in a position that made her uncomfortable and you uncomfortable by a certain human being

01:37:28.560 and you needed to keep your sanity about you and not let your emotions take over do you remember

01:37:37.260 this story what did you do forgave him okay what i'm hearing is you you made a poor decision

01:37:46.420 and uh you had to be accountable for that poor decision you are you're not alone we've all done

01:37:52.460 that and in the process you were very hurt by someone that you cared about and i see your lens

01:37:59.940 this is what i'm hearing you understand that it might not have been as impactful for him as it

01:38:03.900 was for you but it really got to you i'm not neither right or wrong it's just my two cents

01:38:10.640 take it or throw it back i think it starts with your ability to forgive

01:38:15.040 and if you can get yourself to a place where you honestly can say

01:38:22.340 i forgive then i think you can begin the foundation to move forward you don't have

01:38:28.840 i'm not saying forget forgiveness and uh forgetfulness are two different things

01:38:32.960 but i think if you can bring yourself to a position where you can forgive someone

01:38:39.500 you can begin to move forward that's just my perspective i totally agree

01:38:44.560 i think i have an ego problem it's it's like okay kind of hard it's i don't know why it's like

01:38:54.200 like i don't know it i can't do it without having a conversation with him that's i think part of

01:38:59.660 this puzzle and like i don't know if i'm ready for that to be honest and you don't have to be

01:39:05.260 forgiveness has to come on your own terms dude it's it's here it'll come i have nothing against 0.96

01:39:10.160 Dwayne he didn't make any wrong decisions it was all me I think part of it is I fucking hate myself

01:39:15.060 for letting him down and it's like that anger that I have even just against myself was turned 0.65

01:39:21.140 into this drive that I told myself I'm gonna I'm gonna be so successful that I don't need your

01:39:28.740 approval or validation or acquaintanceship I'm I'm gonna do this on my own with or without you

01:39:35.100 by my side okay that's very fair but if you can say to me that you were hurt because you let him

01:39:44.280 down why can't you say that to him what have you got to lose i will i have to have the conversation

01:39:50.720 with him before i fully close this loop i can't just say it right now i know i understand that

01:39:54.820 but you just said it to me yeah yeah and then i mean i i applaud you for being able to share all

01:40:00.660 this because by the way that that's deep that's deep work uh but i think you just starting there

01:40:07.480 yeah i was i was wrecked because i let you down man yeah that that i don't i don't mean to take

01:40:15.540 minimize dwayne's role in the situation but let's take him and substitute your dad or someone else

01:40:22.040 that you that you look up to yeah you being able to find the strength to say i know i let you down

01:40:31.900 and that gutted me man that's okay yeah yeah i know i know i know i need you to be a dad john

01:40:42.620 so again if you want to reconsider that sperm donation like i need i need more like i said

01:40:47.440 you don't you want you don't want the stale worms bro they're not stale his are stale we actually

01:40:51.600 did a test and it showed no it's because 35% of the sperms were still alive only 35% of them are

01:40:57.500 still alive no no it was like less one third it was like 10% but it's because the 10% that were 0.55

01:41:01.940 alive were like I didn't read the rules John and I you're supposed to dry hand job as it says on

01:41:07.700 the wall life's a dry hand job you're supposed to do that when you produce the sample and I use 0.97

01:41:12.000 spermicidal lubricant and a vagina which you were not supposed to use either of them like I just 0.98

01:41:17.140 pulled out and i'll spare you the details well i guess i didn't spare you any of the details 0.87

01:41:21.400 what other details well there's more but i'll leave it at that but uh then i did that and i

01:41:27.900 was given a poor rapport and i and this is something similar to the story he just told

01:41:31.840 that i've had to deal with and i'm quite upset about but but but what i will say is this

01:41:42.180 communication solves every can solve everything I've found that the only way to certainly not

01:41:51.280 fix the situation is to not talk about it I've had so many nights girlfriends friends you know

01:41:57.780 lovers parents family members I've watched family relationships fall apart because neither or or

01:42:06.640 or even just one of the people are willing to say yeah I want to talk to you though people will go

01:42:11.500 to the grave with that feeling of i wish so badly that i could talk to my brother talk to my sister

01:42:19.140 tell my mother how much i love her but because of that ego or that or that that obstacle obstacle

01:42:25.280 they can't come to the table and one thing that i found is that every time i come to a

01:42:30.460 some sort of conclusive resolve with another party it is because we just decided to talk to each other

01:42:36.580 yeah yeah uh speaking of that thank you both for sharing that's a very personal information and

01:42:44.760 certainly a struggle that you have you didn't need to share whether it makes the cut or not

01:42:48.680 i'm sure you might be able to take a deeper breath after you've just said it maybe just

01:42:53.960 said it out loud yeah yeah thanks so much for sharing man i really do appreciate thank you john

01:42:58.280 and um thank you for everything today i i do want to get you out of here we could we could

01:43:03.080 talk forever and you know what we almost have today you and i asked him for his calm dude that's

01:43:08.360 crazy oh i said sperm i don't need the calm yeah we'll get we're gonna dice it we're just gonna 0.50

01:43:13.240 give him take him out really one by one we're gonna take the come out and just give you this 1.00

01:43:17.020 i was just getting ready for christmas it's my driveway where the fuck is my driveway john 0.99

01:43:31.860 listen you would have been a great cop you would have been a great marine you would have been a 0.98

01:43:35.940 great therapist but you ended up being one of the greatest wrestlers of all time thank you so much

01:43:43.220 for joining us today on this podcast it's a way overdue thanks so much for having me and uh i hope

01:43:49.520 i haven't uh kicked myself off the couch i hope there will return visits in the future please

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Impaulsive with Logan Paul - January 24, 2024

The John Cena Interview

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