Juno News - October 01, 2023


Is Trudeau to blame for Ukrainian Nazi incident？ (ft. Ezra Levant)


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Yaroslav Hanka, a 98-year-old war hero who served with the Nazi SS, was honoured as a guest of honour in the House of Commons by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Ezra Levant and I discuss why this should not have happened.

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00:00:00.000 When Conservative members of Parliament meet with a German member of the European Parliament,
00:00:15.240 that is greeting and meeting a Nazi.
00:00:18.700 When the Conservatives support Freedom Convoy demonstrators,
00:00:23.000 that is standing with people who wave swastikas.
00:00:25.320 When parental rights advocates descend on Parliament Hill and locations across the country,
00:00:31.020 the Liberals, the activists, the media will all jump up and down and say these are Nazis.
00:00:35.900 It's amazing how in this day and age anyone and everyone is a Nazi
00:00:39.720 except for someone who literally fought with the Nazis.
00:00:44.300 That is the level of dissonance here.
00:00:46.020 And you often hear the expression that when everything is racist, nothing is racist.
00:00:50.260 When everyone's a Nazi, no one is a Nazi.
00:00:52.820 And that's, I think, the thing here that people forget, is that Nazi means something.
00:00:58.180 And we are not so far removed from history that there are not Nazis who walk on this earth,
00:01:02.960 which is why Simon Wiesenthal and his followers have become so dogged in their pursuit of justice
00:01:08.920 for aging Nazi criminals.
00:01:12.060 There will come a time when there are none left on this earth,
00:01:15.420 and some of those will have managed to escape and evade justice.
00:01:18.640 I am not calling for justice for Yaroslav Hanka.
00:01:22.740 I don't know enough about his history to say whether that is warranted.
00:01:26.400 But I am saying that at the very, very minimum, the lowest, lowest bar possible,
00:01:32.060 so much that the Seven Dwarves could play limbo under it,
00:01:35.560 is that we shouldn't honor them and give them standing ovations in the House of Commons.
00:01:40.480 Ezra Levant was one of the first people, if not the first person, to notice this.
00:01:45.180 He is the rebel commander at Rebel News and joins me now.
00:01:49.420 Ezra, it's always good to talk to you.
00:01:52.080 I mean, you're a Jewish man yourself, and I know you have a very high tolerance for free speech
00:01:57.440 and for people having controversial and even hateful opinions.
00:02:01.160 But just on a personal level, how did you feel when you saw this
00:02:04.540 and clued in to what people in the House of Commons didn't really clue into?
00:02:09.260 Yeah, I mean, talk about tricky language.
00:02:12.460 I mean, the guy was a Nazi.
00:02:13.600 I'm not saying he was like a regular GI, just a conscript in the army.
00:02:18.400 He was a volunteer with Hitler's SS.
00:02:22.180 That was the political hunter-killers.
00:02:24.580 Those are the folks who would go after the partisan resistance.
00:02:27.960 Those are the folks who would hunt for Jews in the attics. 0.98
00:02:31.580 These were the vicious Hitler errand boys. 0.99
00:02:35.700 They trained near Dachau. 0.99
00:02:37.580 They were the division for the battalion that would shoot Jews and bury them in mass graves. 0.74
00:02:45.080 So he wasn't just fighting. 0.99
00:02:47.240 He was a Nazi, an SS officer. 0.82
00:02:50.320 I'm curious if he has the telltale SS tattoo under their armpit.
00:02:54.540 They would have an SS tattoo and then their blood type.
00:02:57.400 I wonder if Yaroslav Hanka has that.
00:03:00.040 It would be terrifying to find out.
00:03:02.020 This guy sort of sneaked into Canada.
00:03:04.540 According to David Pagliese, Canada's leading military journalist and historian,
00:03:10.560 a lot of these guys sneaked into Canada by changing the name of the battalion.
00:03:15.260 They said instead of part of the 14th Waffen SS, they were with the 1st Ukrainian battalion.
00:03:21.400 And about 2,000 of these folks managed to sneak into Canada.
00:03:24.420 This guy, Yaroslav Hanka, kept a low profile for a long time.
00:03:28.180 I mean, he's 98.
00:03:29.900 Maybe he was worried that some Mossad Nazi hunter would show up one day and get him.
00:03:35.660 But he's 98.
00:03:36.820 And imagine getting the phone call. 0.97
00:03:38.100 You're a Nazi. 0.94
00:03:39.260 You've been living low key. 1.00
00:03:40.680 You sort of lied to get into Canada.
00:03:42.000 And then one day you get a phone call from the government, not to prosecute you,
00:03:45.720 but to champion you as this hero.
00:03:48.820 Anthony Roda literally called him a hero.
00:03:52.080 I got a question for you.
00:03:54.160 Do you think for one second that being a guest of honor for the entire parliament,
00:04:02.000 when the foreign president of Ukraine is there, so you've got high security,
00:04:06.560 everyone's been going through the metal detector because this guy Zelensky is under an assassination risk.
00:04:11.440 Do you think for one second that Yaroslav Hanka was not scrutinized by not just one,
00:04:18.520 but probably 10 people?
00:04:20.760 Do you really think Trudeau, the master thespian, didn't know who was who?
00:04:25.700 And do you think Chrystia Freeland, whose own grandfather was a Ukrainian Nazi who actually
00:04:30.860 expropriated a newspaper from a Jew and turned it into a Nazi propaganda machine, 0.88
00:04:36.120 do you think for a second that Chrystia Freeland didn't know exactly what was going on?
00:04:41.620 And you were so right, Andrew.
00:04:43.440 These liberals call everyone a Nazi.
00:04:46.480 It's projection. 0.92
00:04:47.920 They are the Nazi lovers. 0.85
00:04:51.360 And it wasn't until the internet, including myself, connected the dots.
00:04:55.940 No regime media bothered to say, oh, who's that guy fighting against Russia?
00:05:01.480 Oh, that's our friend.
00:05:03.460 Why did it take independent journalists like myself when not a single regime journalist said,
00:05:09.760 hmm, that's a bit weird.
00:05:11.740 Who would have fought against Russia in the early 40s? 1.00
00:05:15.300 Well, on that note, I mean, the most charitable interpretation for this is that they are idiots. 1.00
00:05:22.340 It is that you have people that don't understand the history or lack the logic and reason to put 1.00
00:05:27.960 two and two together.
00:05:29.040 You don't buy that, it sounds like.
00:05:31.480 You know, Jaspal Atwal, and you guys broke this story.
00:05:34.720 He was the terrorist.
00:05:37.180 The judge called him a terrorist who was convicted of attempted murder when an Indian cabinet minister 0.66
00:05:42.540 was visiting B.C., Jaspal Atwal tried to kill him.
00:05:45.620 He was convicted, declared a terrorist.
00:05:48.220 Justin Trudeau invited him to go to India with him.
00:05:51.180 Oh, I didn't know.
00:05:52.500 You didn't know?
00:05:53.500 Or you were playing domestic politics.
00:05:55.800 Just like Trudeau plays domestic politics with the Sikh community, 0.76
00:05:59.200 he plays domestic politics with the large Ukrainian-Canadian community.
00:06:02.320 And by the way, my family is originally from Ukraine as well, from the city of Dnipro.
00:06:06.760 So I'm not hostile to Ukraine.
00:06:08.620 I just think that you've got 2,000 Nazis who came from Ukraine to Canada.
00:06:13.600 Most of them have passed away.
00:06:15.060 You find the one guy who's 98.
00:06:17.120 He's probably one of the – I'd be surprised if there's five others in the whole country.
00:06:21.240 You found the one Nazi, not a fake Nazi, not a rhetorical Nazi, not a neo-Nazi, but a real
00:06:29.080 Nazi who's probably got the SS tattoo under the armpit, who probably, if he was active for 0.61
00:06:35.840 so many years, probably murdered a few Jews and a few resistance fighters.
00:06:41.400 He probably did, Andrew.
00:06:43.020 I mean, I don't know.
00:06:43.760 He's never been charged.
00:06:44.800 Just to call it out, you don't have any evidence specifically on this man.
00:06:47.840 I absolutely don't.
00:06:49.560 And he will go to his grave unprosecuted.
00:06:52.620 And he's lived a charmed life, Andrew.
00:06:54.620 He's 98 the last 73 years or 72 years in this country.
00:06:59.600 Imagine what a bizarre ending to his life.
00:07:02.460 He's invited to Ottawa.
00:07:03.960 The whole parliament jumps to their feet and applauds him.
00:07:07.700 And they call him a hero.
00:07:08.720 And he's thinking, I'm vindicated.
00:07:09.940 I'm redeemed.
00:07:10.580 Adolf Hitler's must be thrilled with them. 0.98
00:07:13.700 And then it all comes undone.
00:07:15.660 What a bizarre, bizarre life.
00:07:18.200 I've seen – I mean, there was – I can't remember the name of it now.
00:07:20.920 There was a miniseries on Netflix about John Dimanovich, or Dimanovich, I recall the name of it, the one they thought was Ivan the Terrible.
00:07:31.200 And, you know, you watch this and you just see this horrible, horrible man.
00:07:34.940 But to his family, he's grandpa.
00:07:36.660 He's the guy that they've known that has probably never committed any criminal wrong for the last 70, 80 years of his life.
00:07:43.440 And here we have a guy who's probably in a very similar boat.
00:07:46.560 He's known as a loving family guy, community guy.
00:07:48.940 If he had just kept his head down for two years, he goes to his grave with nothing.
00:07:54.100 Now this is his legacy.
00:07:55.720 And, I mean, I don't think that there was any 3D chess being played here to try to destroy this family's life.
00:08:02.720 But, my goodness, that's the consequence of this because now no one will rest until they understand this.
00:08:07.100 People that had never heard of this division are now asking questions about, whoa, why did Canada just open up its doors to people that had done this?
00:08:15.020 Let me throw a few quick things at you before I go.
00:08:17.060 Number one, three months ago, Justin Trudeau went to Kiev and met with Martin Melny, for Andrei Melnyk, excuse me.
00:08:27.340 Andrei Melnyk.
00:08:28.260 He was Ukraine's ambassador to Germany and he was fired by Zelensky for denying the Holocaust.
00:08:35.040 Fired by Zelensky.
00:08:36.500 Trudeau met with him.
00:08:37.320 Point two, Chrystia Freeland posed, and you guys broke this story too, with the scarf that was for Stepan Bandera, the Ukrainian Nazi.
00:08:47.940 How many, and by the way, if you look at David Paglia's story in The Ottawa Citizen, Chrystia Freeland and the government have met with the Nazi as a battalion and instructed the Canadian Armed Forces to keep a low media profile.
00:09:04.300 So that's not one dalliance with Nazis.
00:09:06.780 That's two, three, four.
00:09:08.700 How many times does Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland get to hang out with Nazis and say, whoopsies, didn't mean to?
00:09:16.680 And remember, Chrystia Freeland's own grandfather was a Nazi and she helped cover that up for years. 0.89
00:09:21.800 Well, and on the note of Freeland too, I mean, if we go back to the ignorance argument, the ignorance plea here, Chrystia Freeland, if there is one person in the House of Commons that has no right to plead ignorant, it is Chrystia Freeland.
00:09:34.960 Because she knows this history intricately.
00:09:37.820 It is part of her family history.
00:09:39.700 She's got a, I think it's like a condo or a house in, you know, downtown Kiev.
00:09:44.020 She knows Ukraine well.
00:09:45.580 It's like most people, like, for example, if someone had handed me the Bandera flag, I wouldn't have known what it was.
00:09:50.740 As Chrystia Freeland did.
00:09:51.960 And that's the thing, is that if there's one person in that government that doesn't get to just hide behind that, it's her.
00:09:58.040 Yeah.
00:09:58.340 You know what?
00:09:59.620 It's amazing how the regime media are rushing to give Trudeau and Freeland the benefit of the doubt when you have a real live SS officer in parliament.
00:10:10.440 But you call it, but they demonize every conservative, every trucker, everyone who's worried about gender ideology in school. 0.91
00:10:18.820 They call them Nazis.
00:10:20.580 Never again, Andrew, can we accept the accusation of bigotry or Nazism from the liberals.
00:10:27.000 They are the only government in the world that I know of that has brought Nazis into parliament and cheered them. 0.97
00:10:36.200 And Trudeau should never be allowed to forget that for the rest of his days.
00:10:41.300 You know what?
00:10:42.040 Pierre Trudeau motorcycled around Montreal with a Nazi helmet in the 40s.
00:10:46.400 It was a big joke.
00:10:48.180 Well, 80 years later, his son brought a Nazi into parliament. 1.00
00:10:52.380 Justin Trudeau is a disgrace. 0.99
00:10:54.260 We should never let him forget that. 1.00
00:10:58.000 Yeah.
00:10:58.140 And it makes it look quaint when a few years ago the liberals forgot to mention Jews on the plaque of their Holocaust memorial.
00:11:03.960 I don't know if you remember that.
00:11:05.100 And, you know, that was, again, another whoopsie.
00:11:07.760 Well, Ezra, I know you have to go.
00:11:09.200 I appreciate you coming on.
00:11:10.420 Your coverage on this started on Twitter, and I know we'll carry on into your show tonight at Rebel News.
00:11:15.520 So thank you very much.
00:11:17.220 Thanks, my friend.
00:11:17.840 Bye-bye.
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