Juno News - September 11, 2021


The case of Dr. Julie Ponesse: ethics professor placed on leave for not getting the vaccine


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Dr. Julie Panessi has been placed on a paid leave and is not allowed to go on her university campus because she refused to take the covid vaccine. She is facing imminent dismissal after 20 years on the job because she refuses to submit to having an experimental vaccine injected into her body.

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00:00:00.000 you may have seen a video that went viral on social media of dr julie panessi an ethics
00:00:09.200 professor at huron university college who has been placed on a paid leave and is not allowed
00:00:15.200 to go on her university campus because she declined to take the covid vaccine my school
00:00:21.600 employs me to be an authority on the subject of ethics i hold a phd in ethics and ancient philosophy
00:00:30.320 and i'm here to tell you it's ethically wrong to coerce someone to take a vaccine
00:00:36.880 if it happens to you you don't have to do it if you don't want a covid vaccine don't take one end
00:00:44.560 of discussion it's your own business but that is not the approach of the university of western ontario
00:00:53.120 which has suddenly required that i be vaccinated immediately or not report for work
00:01:00.560 so with the school year beginning in a few days i am facing imminent dismissal
00:01:06.480 after 20 years on the job because i will not submit to having an experimental vaccine
00:01:13.200 injected into my body i've had plenty of vaccines in my life but i've never been forced to take one
00:01:21.120 it's always been my choice now what i like about julie panessi is she's being very principled about
00:01:27.440 this she told the national post that although she may qualify for an exemption she doesn't want to get
00:01:33.200 one because that would be acquiescing to the mandate in some sense she said i want to be very clear in
00:01:39.600 rejecting it in principle i don't think we ever should have to be in the place where we're looking
00:01:43.920 at the situation of mandates so i'm not just seeking an exemption to one i'm challenging the
00:01:48.640 very foundation of the idea another thing i like is she has been making the point that even if you
00:01:53.840 don't have the the best explanation or reason for not getting the vaccine that doesn't mean
00:02:00.480 you should be coerced into getting it so unfortunately i hear a lot of people who are
00:02:06.240 to their credit pro-choice when it comes to the covid vaccine but they always add on caveats like
00:02:13.200 well if you don't have a legitimate exemption then you should get it and then they kind of make digs
00:02:18.320 at people who aren't getting it for personal reasons and saying that you know oh some people
00:02:22.880 are just very conspiratorial and they're tin hat tinfoil hat people and uh it's just they're subject
00:02:29.360 to misinformation that kind of thing so there's a lot of people willing to get behind people with
00:02:36.080 exemptions but in my view the only argument that really matters is if someone is personally unsettled by
00:02:43.920 getting a pharmaceutical product injected into their body then they shouldn't be intimidated into
00:02:49.920 getting it end of story now of course we're seeing the usual attacks on dr panessi as a way to
00:02:55.760 delegitimize her concerns and her arguments and what she's going through uh there is an emphasis
00:03:02.400 on the fact that she has been on maxime bernier's youtube channel and spoke at a people's party rally
00:03:08.080 as if that makes her a terrible person or something then there are the expected attacks on
00:03:12.800 her professional legitimacy because of course your education and your experiences only matter
00:03:18.640 if you are on the right side of an issue otherwise you're just some sort of fraud and
00:03:22.080 you don't really deserve your phd but in any case panessi is on a temporary leave she's not allowed
00:03:28.800 to access her campus and we will see what happens with this case it's a very important one to follow
00:03:34.160 if we want to assume the best of the university then you know maybe they'll try to work something
00:03:38.720 out with her but uh if not and she does end up fired then i think this could be one of the first
00:03:44.960 high-profile public incidents where someone who is not a healthcare worker is losing their job over
00:03:51.520 the mandate i'm lindsay shepherd with true north thanks so much for watching if you like our coverage
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