JustPearlyThings - April 05, 2023


Beauty Standards are Higher Today


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In this episode, we discuss beauty standards in the UK and the impact they have on the dating marketplace. Are beauty standards based on looks or is it based on how a woman looks? Is there a difference between beauty standards and beauty standards?

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00:00:00.000 yeah I definitely feel like there is a high beauty standard in the UK yeah
00:00:04.980 that's my opinion okay what do you think what are beauty standards for me I okay
00:00:11.280 I'm gonna say that it does come from within however I'd be lying if I would
00:00:15.720 say that you don't look at beauty like you can tell in the UK but like who is
00:00:20.760 attractive and who isn't you just know that so to say that it comes from within
00:00:25.280 I think yes that's the general statement for anyone to make because nobody wants
00:00:29.940 to sound like oh they're being shallow but realistically speaking the majority
00:00:34.500 of society are shallow you do look at people and what they look like mm-hmm yeah
00:00:39.780 okay so you would say it's based on looks yeah what what metrics would you use to
00:00:44.560 measure someone's beauty um for me personally um men or women women it would
00:00:54.960 for me I look at a woman's if I can strip back everything in terms of like the 1.00
00:00:58.860 makeup the hair the nails and to me I can see her as beautiful then she's
00:01:04.860 beautiful but that's just me again my preference okay what do you think Troy what
00:01:09.980 are beauty standards I mean look I think it's entirely physical to be honest I
00:01:15.360 don't want to sound cynical here but I think that's what people look at I think
00:01:18.620 it's nice to say it's from within and there's yeah sure I mean there's some
00:01:22.140 truth in that but I think let's let's let's be let's be real the dating
00:01:25.440 marketplace it's a kind of a jungle out there right what are people looking at
00:01:28.820 they're looking at the aesthetics right they're looking at the surface now
00:01:31.400 that's not to say that you meet somebody and maybe they have a really obnoxious
00:01:36.860 personality and you think actually I'm put off from that or they've got
00:01:39.880 something about them that's really great and you guys click and that adds
00:01:42.960 something to it 100% that's that's definitely true but let's let's be honest
00:01:46.120 right it's a surface level thing there are there are aesthetic standards and
00:01:49.440 that's what people mean when they're talking about beauty I don't think the
00:01:54.580 standards are particularly high in the UK but that's just that's just me though guys sorry
00:02:00.200 for men as well for men as well for men as well for men as well
00:02:07.640 you get humbled real quick well Miami but also like Latin America I mean Eastern Europe all those
00:02:15.500 places oh yeah yeah I went to a wedding in Germany it was like all the girls were 0.98
00:02:20.880 like literally stunning yeah okay what do you think yeah I do agree I feel like it
00:02:27.160 is based on how a woman looks I feel like as she mentioned if a woman's got her 1.00
00:02:33.140 nails done hair done you've got yourself together men do like that it is you know
00:02:36.740 quite obvious as well a man especially a regular man in the UK I don't feel like
00:02:41.180 they would go for just a basic looking woman yeah they would go for a woman who's 1.00
00:02:46.800 you know got themselves put together got their nails done they look good and yeah
00:02:51.380 I don't really agree when they said that it's within it's just my opinion
00:02:55.640 anyways I feel like if someone looks good then that's what attracts attracts men as
00:03:00.620 well yeah what do you think um I agree to an extent I definitely feel as though
00:03:12.120 beauty is an attraction I feel like if someone's attracted to you they're gonna
00:03:16.220 think you're beautiful regardless however I do not agree that just because
00:03:21.620 you're well done up that then implicates that you're beautiful you know I don't
00:03:27.400 have no makeup on now I'm very much beautiful and I don't need makeup to
00:03:32.260 define my beauty and I think yeah I don't even got to find my beauty however you
00:03:39.400 know I do definitely feel like you have to be attracted to someone in order for
00:03:43.720 you to think that they are beautiful mm-hmm do you guys think that beauty
00:03:49.300 standards are higher were higher a hundred years ago or today today definitely today
00:03:56.020 definitely today is there anyone that thinks they were higher a hundred years
00:03:58.980 ago anyone no because if you look back at all black and white photographs from the
00:04:02.160 Victorian era and then you look at you just do a scroll through Instagram now I
00:04:05.560 mean I mean like it's night and day in terms of in terms of hotness and I think
00:04:08.600 that's down to a number of things it's like to do with nutrition is to do with
00:04:11.720 fitness is to do with the fact that we're all encouraged to work out now makeup you
00:04:16.560 know clothing there's so many different things bits of surgery and procedures and
00:04:20.960 stuff I mean there's so many different things that come into it so I think yeah
00:04:23.340 definitely overall you know people are more aesthetically pleasing now it was
00:04:28.380 probably only the rich people that were super hot back in there that's what I 0.97
00:04:31.320 was gonna say I was gonna say I feel like um things are more accessible now so yeah
00:04:35.460 makeup like it's you know less I don't know about pricing but I feel like surgery is
00:04:40.920 more accessible to people and stuff yeah and I feel like that's probably why the
00:04:44.520 standards are a little bit higher yeah do women respond when beauty standards go 1.00
00:04:48.840 higher do you think that women do you feel like we just step up to the plate we yeah 1.00
00:04:53.640 yeah and how do we respond typically we follow the trend yeah we follow the trend
00:05:02.880 what trends so like the BBL trend that's happening at the moment I feel like it's
00:05:07.080 going down now but um yeah I guess we just follow the trend like um what else is it like
00:05:11.460 makeup yeah makeup I like yeah lip filler yeah I disagree a little bit because I don't follow
00:05:19.800 like all the latest trend all the time sometimes it's overwhelming to me so I try to do what is
00:05:26.340 best for me and obviously we live in this society where social media is like it's everything so
00:05:32.600 everyone is bombarded with all these images but it doesn't mean that I'm gonna follow any single
00:05:37.040 trend is up there because it's overwhelming to me so um does beauty standards include weight yes to
00:05:44.140 an extent I think yeah yeah does anyone think it doesn't yeah I don't think so anymore I don't I don't
00:05:51.020 think so anymore I feel like um I feel like all shapes and sizes right now I might be wrong are
00:05:56.720 accepted so um I just feel like for me personally it's based on how well how well you keep yourself
00:06:02.960 and how put together you look not about your size that's just me personally do you think men think
00:06:06.920 the same thing yeah I actually think so I think it depends yeah no but in general so we could talk
00:06:17.600 about in general would you say men care or they don't care about weight yeah do you think women
00:06:34.460 are more put together today than a hundred years ago definitely definitely yeah you look at some old
00:06:43.460 some of these old pictures though seriously you see like these dusty old like photographs sometimes
00:06:47.900 you see I mean they're not looking good you know the ladies weren't representing back then do you
00:06:52.220 know what I mean then back then it might have been a thing that's how they were meant to yeah it's true
00:06:56.300 it's true yeah those days were like oh yeah they're beautiful yeah it's true look at them now but back
00:07:03.380 then yeah she was hot yeah it was more natural though back in the days it was like you know beauties like 1.00
00:07:10.640 today's like oh you need to be the perfect the perfect maker and I don't think they cared much
00:07:14.360 of us but don't you think the one thing I've observed like here and also in the states a little
00:07:18.300 bit as well is that a lot of there's a seems to be this fashion now for women wearing quite baggy
00:07:22.700 clothes have you know it's like if you go to a shopping mall or something like that during the
00:07:26.760 daytime a lot of the women are wearing like quite baggy jeans quite baggy and and maybe less makeup and 1.00
00:07:31.000 stuff which sort of goes counter to that Instagram thing in a way doesn't it because I think just
00:07:35.660 looking around the streets I think a lot of women are dressing up sort of a bit less 1.00
00:07:39.200 certainly during the daytime here but then if you go to say Poland or if you go to Ukraine or
00:07:45.500 something prior to the you know the war you would see a very different sort of story so I think in
00:07:50.840 the west it feels like I don't say standards are falling but it seems like a more casualness is sort
00:07:56.600 of accepted into the women because I see more yoga pants and sweat I would say I see more yoga pants 1.00
00:08:01.920 and sweats than I did 20 like 10 years ago let's say when I was 26 when I was 16 you know it was like
00:08:08.240 I don't know because you guys are different about yoga pants a little bit but in the US they're like
00:08:12.800 super common but I remember it was like a fight on Facebook about if yoga pants were acceptable in
00:08:18.140 public I was in I was in LA recently and I saw there was a lot of yoga pants going on down in sort of
00:08:28.460 Venice and Venice Beach and like places like that yeah so my question is if beauty standards are higher
00:08:34.640 and women respond to beauty standards why are women more overweight today and we dress up less 1.00
00:08:39.380 is that stats that you have by any chance yeah and the 19 I mean there's no stat on dressing up that's
00:08:49.400 just anecdotal but when it comes to weight only 10% of women were overweight in the 40s where 60% of 0.63
00:08:54.620 women in the UK are overweight 70% in America you got remember back in the olden days they had this thing 1.00
00:09:00.620 where they used to wear corsets in order to line their bodies so they had this that was their trend 0.65
00:09:06.360 you know that isn't the trend here so you gotta understand that as times as society changes so does
00:09:12.740 the trends I guess no yeah but my question is more like if women respond to beauty standards and women
00:09:18.140 actually cared about beauty standards like why are we more overweight and we dress up less because of
00:09:22.700 the food that we eat but that kind of indicates that we don't care as much as we say we do like
00:09:28.340 because we're supposed to be under this immense pressure right from society but it doesn't seem
00:09:32.480 like our looks are getting better as a whole I think again if you compare other societies because
00:09:37.800 like before the you know the kind of West just as a counterpoint though so when like in 2021 I was
00:09:45.080 in spent quite a lot of time in Russia and then and then also in Ukraine prior to what's happening now
00:09:49.940 and it is a very different story though you do get a lot of women who are very elegant they're still 1.00
00:09:54.380 wearing you know maybe peels slightly less during the daytime but you know what I mean very very
00:09:59.640 elegant wearing dresses all the time but very very feminine in a way that you don't see so much here
00:10:05.400 and I think that's got something to do with feminism to be honest or at least the the tide of 1.00
00:10:13.040 because society is telling women you you don't have to make why you don't have to make an effort for 1.00
00:10:17.880 it sounds very crude but you don't have to make an effort for men right because why should you 0.92
00:10:22.020 right because you are you're enough in yourself okay um and and I think that's got something to
00:10:27.620 do with it to be to be honest you know I don't think society is and I'm not saying society should
00:10:32.220 be compelling women to do that but I don't think it is whereas I think in some of those other
00:10:35.900 countries that are arguably a little bit more patriarchal let's say um there is still that
00:10:41.160 pressure and so women are dressing up more and also they have to compete with one another because 1.00
00:10:44.540 otherwise if you're the the girl who's you know just just not not bothering and everyone else is 0.52
00:10:49.340 then you're gonna kind of get left to the side aren't you as many of you know I was just banned on
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