Beauty Standards are Higher Today
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss beauty standards in the UK and the impact they have on the dating marketplace. Are beauty standards based on looks or is it based on how a woman looks? Is there a difference between beauty standards and beauty standards?
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yeah I definitely feel like there is a high beauty standard in the UK yeah
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that's my opinion okay what do you think what are beauty standards for me I okay
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I'm gonna say that it does come from within however I'd be lying if I would
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say that you don't look at beauty like you can tell in the UK but like who is
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attractive and who isn't you just know that so to say that it comes from within
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I think yes that's the general statement for anyone to make because nobody wants
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to sound like oh they're being shallow but realistically speaking the majority
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of society are shallow you do look at people and what they look like mm-hmm yeah
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okay so you would say it's based on looks yeah what what metrics would you use to
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measure someone's beauty um for me personally um men or women women it would
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for me I look at a woman's if I can strip back everything in terms of like the
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makeup the hair the nails and to me I can see her as beautiful then she's
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beautiful but that's just me again my preference okay what do you think Troy what
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are beauty standards I mean look I think it's entirely physical to be honest I
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don't want to sound cynical here but I think that's what people look at I think
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it's nice to say it's from within and there's yeah sure I mean there's some
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truth in that but I think let's let's let's be let's be real the dating
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marketplace it's a kind of a jungle out there right what are people looking at
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they're looking at the aesthetics right they're looking at the surface now
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that's not to say that you meet somebody and maybe they have a really obnoxious
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personality and you think actually I'm put off from that or they've got
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something about them that's really great and you guys click and that adds
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something to it 100% that's that's definitely true but let's let's be honest
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right it's a surface level thing there are there are aesthetic standards and
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that's what people mean when they're talking about beauty I don't think the
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standards are particularly high in the UK but that's just that's just me though guys sorry
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for men as well for men as well for men as well for men as well
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you get humbled real quick well Miami but also like Latin America I mean Eastern Europe all those
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places oh yeah yeah I went to a wedding in Germany it was like all the girls were
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like literally stunning yeah okay what do you think yeah I do agree I feel like it
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is based on how a woman looks I feel like as she mentioned if a woman's got her
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nails done hair done you've got yourself together men do like that it is you know
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quite obvious as well a man especially a regular man in the UK I don't feel like
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they would go for just a basic looking woman yeah they would go for a woman who's
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you know got themselves put together got their nails done they look good and yeah
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I don't really agree when they said that it's within it's just my opinion
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anyways I feel like if someone looks good then that's what attracts attracts men as
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well yeah what do you think um I agree to an extent I definitely feel as though
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beauty is an attraction I feel like if someone's attracted to you they're gonna
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think you're beautiful regardless however I do not agree that just because
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you're well done up that then implicates that you're beautiful you know I don't
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have no makeup on now I'm very much beautiful and I don't need makeup to
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define my beauty and I think yeah I don't even got to find my beauty however you
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know I do definitely feel like you have to be attracted to someone in order for
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you to think that they are beautiful mm-hmm do you guys think that beauty
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standards are higher were higher a hundred years ago or today today definitely today
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definitely today is there anyone that thinks they were higher a hundred years
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ago anyone no because if you look back at all black and white photographs from the
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Victorian era and then you look at you just do a scroll through Instagram now I
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mean I mean like it's night and day in terms of in terms of hotness and I think
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that's down to a number of things it's like to do with nutrition is to do with
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fitness is to do with the fact that we're all encouraged to work out now makeup you
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know clothing there's so many different things bits of surgery and procedures and
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stuff I mean there's so many different things that come into it so I think yeah
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definitely overall you know people are more aesthetically pleasing now it was
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probably only the rich people that were super hot back in there that's what I
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was gonna say I was gonna say I feel like um things are more accessible now so yeah
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makeup like it's you know less I don't know about pricing but I feel like surgery is
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more accessible to people and stuff yeah and I feel like that's probably why the
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standards are a little bit higher yeah do women respond when beauty standards go
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higher do you think that women do you feel like we just step up to the plate we yeah
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yeah and how do we respond typically we follow the trend yeah we follow the trend
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what trends so like the BBL trend that's happening at the moment I feel like it's
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going down now but um yeah I guess we just follow the trend like um what else is it like
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makeup yeah makeup I like yeah lip filler yeah I disagree a little bit because I don't follow
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like all the latest trend all the time sometimes it's overwhelming to me so I try to do what is
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best for me and obviously we live in this society where social media is like it's everything so
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everyone is bombarded with all these images but it doesn't mean that I'm gonna follow any single
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trend is up there because it's overwhelming to me so um does beauty standards include weight yes to
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an extent I think yeah yeah does anyone think it doesn't yeah I don't think so anymore I don't I don't
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think so anymore I feel like um I feel like all shapes and sizes right now I might be wrong are
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accepted so um I just feel like for me personally it's based on how well how well you keep yourself
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and how put together you look not about your size that's just me personally do you think men think
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the same thing yeah I actually think so I think it depends yeah no but in general so we could talk
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about in general would you say men care or they don't care about weight yeah do you think women
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are more put together today than a hundred years ago definitely definitely yeah you look at some old
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some of these old pictures though seriously you see like these dusty old like photographs sometimes
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you see I mean they're not looking good you know the ladies weren't representing back then do you
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know what I mean then back then it might have been a thing that's how they were meant to yeah it's true
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it's true yeah those days were like oh yeah they're beautiful yeah it's true look at them now but back
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then yeah she was hot yeah it was more natural though back in the days it was like you know beauties like
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today's like oh you need to be the perfect the perfect maker and I don't think they cared much
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of us but don't you think the one thing I've observed like here and also in the states a little
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bit as well is that a lot of there's a seems to be this fashion now for women wearing quite baggy
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clothes have you know it's like if you go to a shopping mall or something like that during the
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daytime a lot of the women are wearing like quite baggy jeans quite baggy and and maybe less makeup and
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stuff which sort of goes counter to that Instagram thing in a way doesn't it because I think just
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looking around the streets I think a lot of women are dressing up sort of a bit less
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certainly during the daytime here but then if you go to say Poland or if you go to Ukraine or
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something prior to the you know the war you would see a very different sort of story so I think in
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the west it feels like I don't say standards are falling but it seems like a more casualness is sort
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of accepted into the women because I see more yoga pants and sweat I would say I see more yoga pants
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and sweats than I did 20 like 10 years ago let's say when I was 26 when I was 16 you know it was like
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I don't know because you guys are different about yoga pants a little bit but in the US they're like
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super common but I remember it was like a fight on Facebook about if yoga pants were acceptable in
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public I was in I was in LA recently and I saw there was a lot of yoga pants going on down in sort of
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Venice and Venice Beach and like places like that yeah so my question is if beauty standards are higher
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and women respond to beauty standards why are women more overweight today and we dress up less
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is that stats that you have by any chance yeah and the 19 I mean there's no stat on dressing up that's
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just anecdotal but when it comes to weight only 10% of women were overweight in the 40s where 60% of
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women in the UK are overweight 70% in America you got remember back in the olden days they had this thing
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where they used to wear corsets in order to line their bodies so they had this that was their trend
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you know that isn't the trend here so you gotta understand that as times as society changes so does
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the trends I guess no yeah but my question is more like if women respond to beauty standards and women
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actually cared about beauty standards like why are we more overweight and we dress up less because of
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the food that we eat but that kind of indicates that we don't care as much as we say we do like
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because we're supposed to be under this immense pressure right from society but it doesn't seem
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like our looks are getting better as a whole I think again if you compare other societies because
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like before the you know the kind of West just as a counterpoint though so when like in 2021 I was
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in spent quite a lot of time in Russia and then and then also in Ukraine prior to what's happening now
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and it is a very different story though you do get a lot of women who are very elegant they're still
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wearing you know maybe peels slightly less during the daytime but you know what I mean very very
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elegant wearing dresses all the time but very very feminine in a way that you don't see so much here
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and I think that's got something to do with feminism to be honest or at least the the tide of
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because society is telling women you you don't have to make why you don't have to make an effort for
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it sounds very crude but you don't have to make an effort for men right because why should you
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right because you are you're enough in yourself okay um and and I think that's got something to
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do with it to be to be honest you know I don't think society is and I'm not saying society should
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be compelling women to do that but I don't think it is whereas I think in some of those other
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countries that are arguably a little bit more patriarchal let's say um there is still that
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pressure and so women are dressing up more and also they have to compete with one another because
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otherwise if you're the the girl who's you know just just not not bothering and everyone else is
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then you're gonna kind of get left to the side aren't you as many of you know I was just banned on
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