She Tried To Corner Zuby with this Question
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of homosexuality vs. gender dysphoria, and whether or not you should be allowed to like someone of the opposite sex if you have a sexual preference for someone of your opposite sex.
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just ask are you okay with homosexuals what does that mean what homosexuals oh i thought you said
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something okay i thought i heard something different i was like is that a new term
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are you okay with homosexuals what does that mean that's just what do you mean okay with it i know
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what a homosexual is but what do you mean by okay with it okay so are they okay to decide that they
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like someone of the opposite sex but they don't affect our lives of course they are it's a free
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world oh okay so you can be gay but you can't change your gender when did i say that that's what
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i'm trying to understand you cannot literally change your sex it's not possible just like i
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just like you can't fly you you can't change your sex it's not possible okay so you define your gender
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with the chromosome purely the chromosomes yeah it goes it goes beyond chromosomes we've said
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you know there are there are chromosomes there's our reproductive our reproductive wiring there's
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our hormonal profiles there's our physiques everything from our skeleton to our body mass
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and so on there are many differences between males and females by the way not just in the human species
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across the entire animal kingdom it's it's a it's a binary thing right every single person who exists
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in this world was birthed by a woman with with no exceptions but that's the same conversation they had
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with homosexuals because no let me let me finish i didn't say because the the recurring conversation
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is because a man and a woman can reproduce so how can you like someone of the same sex because you
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can't reproduce and that's the same conversation they had this was the um the defense that people
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would always say to them no you're no it's like what's the major difference oh i can explain i can
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explain easily your sexual preference i can explain this very easily it's not even a hard question
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okay okay a homosexual is if a male who is attracted to males yeah it's a gay man right
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a woman who is attracted to a female who's attracted other females is a lesbian woman
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okay there's these are these are just objective okay if a female says that he if a female says that
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she is a male or a male says that that he is a female that is you this is not objective reality
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they're not even in the same sphere but that isn't objective just saying that you're attracted to
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some some like your opposite sex that's not objective that's something that you actually have
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to understand that person and i should be like no wait why is your sexual preference there are the
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other look it's it's it's objective reality that there are men who are attracted to men
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and there are women who are attracted to women because we're so forward thinking now
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no no no no people didn't want to accept that but it's always whether or not they accepted it
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it existed yeah but just like it always existed transgender always existed it's just now we're
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having the conversation no no it didn't no it doesn't no the feeling that you feel like you
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are gender dysphoria that's gender dysphoria you want to categorize that's what it's called
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that's by definition this is what it's called transgenderism is gender dysphoria exists i've said
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that there are males who feel like they identify more as the opposite sex there are females who feel
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they identify no i agree with you because that exists there's people that actually trend um they
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change into women and then five years down the line they're like actually it's the worst thing i've
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ever done i want to be a man now there's a child there's a child that is dysphoria yeah it's a dysphoria
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there are there are many there are people that that's how they feel and they continue in that life
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and i've never uh you see you're you're the thing is you're arguing against points i'm not making
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i've never at any point said that someone is not allowed to do that or someone is not allowed to
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believe that or there are not people who genuinely feel that way yeah i am simply saying just because
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you feel you are something does not make you that thing i can't just say just because you feel like
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you're attracted to the opposite sex no it's because naturally no naturally you shouldn't be
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attracted to the opposite sex no naturally even in the bible it talks about adam and eve even when
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comes i think you mean should you should you should no yeah she means should oh okay yeah she
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misspoke yeah she misspoke okay okay okay you need a man and a woman you said you shouldn't be
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attracted to the opposite sex they were just correcting you but like the point the point you're
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you're gonna make is is he's not even disagreeing with you he's saying there are people that feel
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like they should be met like women that feel like they should be men and men that feel like they
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should be women but throughout history they couldn't they weren't we didn't have trans there
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weren't people doing the surgeries and stuff yeah so that's that's a new yeah or the hormones that's
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a new thing so we should thank god that now we have the technology to do that should we
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i mean either way can i ask you a question can i ask you one question if are you in a relationship
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right now no okay place yourself in a relationship with a man man your dream man your dream man
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dream house dream whole thing right and you're planning a wedding kids you're like i've got my
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dream life and he turned around to you at dinner one night and said i feel that i i'm getting feelings
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that i identify more as a woman and i am going to pursue looking at um you know speaking i don't know
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speaking to a therapist and potentially getting surgery um will you support me and stay with me
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and can we still have a family what would you do well i wouldn't stay with him because i'm not
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attracted i i like straight heterosexual men i mean okay yeah but you just said you just said hang on
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hang on you just said you just said that we have to be more accepting you know we have to understand
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so this is your this is your boyfriend i'm not saying you're saying you don't have to understand
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him but you have to understand everyone else i'm not be sexually attracted to him i can say you know
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what i'm gonna be i'm gonna help you be a part of this process you wouldn't help him sexually i don't
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want to even help him okay what if what if i have a question i have a question i have a question what
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what if are we gonna ask the same question i feel like we think so you said you're attracted to
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straight men what if this man that's transitioning to a woman still likes women he's still considered
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a straight man so would you stay but i like a man that looks like a woman is not going to look like
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a woman because to me you want a man that looks like a man you mean what if he has like short hair
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just like a bob doesn't wear makeup natural look still looks like a man but it's like i identify
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as a woman so what's making you a woman if you're not trying to look like a woman feeling you told me
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it feels it just feels that way well you told me it's not about looks you told us it's not about
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looks to look like a woman if he's saying you know what i'm i still look like a man and i feel like a
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woman i guess because i see you as a man i can't really i guess the sexual attraction is still there
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so what if okay i have a question so what if you're dating a guy okay you're super happy same
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situation right and instead of him transitioning he tells you i used to be a girl oh that was
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do you care you probably would have noticed but yeah yeah guys you get the best surgery just because
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i want to understand them does not mean i'm attracted to it it doesn't mean sexually i want
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to be with someone like that it just means i'm okay with you experimenting understanding
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but that's the same thing zoopy was saying he's saying i don't care what you do you can do the
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hell ever you want but that doesn't make what you're doing real but say so so and i think and i think on
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some and i think on some level you know this and this is and like i just i don't know if you like to
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argue or what because because you know deep down that bruce like bruce jenner caitlin whatever it
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is didn't deserve that award like there's something in you that knows this but but it's like you're
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you just like to argue i don't know what it is she does to me it just seems like it seems like either
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you know some trans people and you're worried about affecting maybe you've got some friends that
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are trans or you know trans people and that you're frightened um do you know what it is i feel like
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because we're in a podcast already and we've kind of touched on this subject and we got a lot of
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backlash for it because i was more outspoken about it but esther was more like sitting on the fence
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about it you know like oh no no so i feel like she's trying to protect people's feelings that's
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what i feel like you're not actually speaking your truth yeah do you know what okay i'll be honest
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this is probably and i'm gonna be completely honest i grew up in a very christian traditional home
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i remember when i was deeply into god i used to tell homosexuals that basically they're going to
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hell and honestly back then i believed that that was the truth you are going to hell because you are
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basically attracted to someone of the same sex and i remember someone i was in school with
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i i used to upset him a lot and i didn't realize how upset he was because of the words that i say to him
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but i couldn't help it because i'd go to church my pastor would start preaching about homosexuals and
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how i have a question when did your mind um because zuby kind of asked this earlier but when did your mind
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change on this stuff i would say maybe when i became a lot less religious and i started to think about
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is it in university possibly um no i actually went i went to china actually i remember going to china and
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in china the major thing that they have is they renounce all religion so they don't um they're
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basically against christians muslim and all that and i think i liked the way that everyone was so
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yeah i don't care and i think that because i was with a lot of like christians muslim and they were
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all like yeah christian is the it's the right way and they were like no it's allah and i really thought
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that was quite ignorant to not listen to people and think your way is the right way and i think it
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made me start to really take things back to and i thought about that guy that i really upset
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because that was generally my truth but then now i look back at here i'm like how the hell but you're
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saying that you upset that guy how about them upsetting us women but he's not done anything to
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upset us real women they're not upsetting us though i think i mean i think i think that i think the leah
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thomas the girl that got second girl no leah thomas when she won the when he he won the woman's like
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swimming title whoever the hell was in second place i'm sure she was upset but that's what happens when
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