JustPearlyThings - April 04, 2023


She Tried To Corner Zuby with this Question


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Length

11 minutes

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193.79637

Word count

2,168

Sentence count

1

Harmful content

Misogyny

8

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Hate speech

15

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of homosexuality vs. gender dysphoria, and whether or not you should be allowed to like someone of the opposite sex if you have a sexual preference for someone of your opposite sex.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 just ask are you okay with homosexuals what does that mean what homosexuals oh i thought you said
00:00:07.800 something okay i thought i heard something different i was like is that a new term
00:00:11.420 are you okay with homosexuals what does that mean that's just what do you mean okay with it i know 0.98
00:00:19.600 what a homosexual is but what do you mean by okay with it okay so are they okay to decide that they 0.98
00:00:25.220 like someone of the opposite sex but they don't affect our lives of course they are it's a free
00:00:29.100 world oh okay so you can be gay but you can't change your gender when did i say that that's what 0.90
00:00:36.020 i'm trying to understand you cannot literally change your sex it's not possible just like i 1.00
00:00:41.480 just like you can't fly you you can't change your sex it's not possible okay so you define your gender 0.99
00:00:48.280 with the chromosome purely the chromosomes yeah it goes it goes beyond chromosomes we've said
00:00:54.180 you know there are there are chromosomes there's our reproductive our reproductive wiring there's 0.99
00:01:00.140 our hormonal profiles there's our physiques everything from our skeleton to our body mass
00:01:05.200 and so on there are many differences between males and females by the way not just in the human species
00:01:09.800 across the entire animal kingdom it's it's a it's a binary thing right every single person who exists
00:01:15.100 in this world was birthed by a woman with with no exceptions but that's the same conversation they had
00:01:20.300 with homosexuals because no let me let me finish i didn't say because the the recurring conversation
00:01:27.040 is because a man and a woman can reproduce so how can you like someone of the same sex because you 0.57
00:01:33.720 can't reproduce and that's the same conversation they had this was the um the defense that people
00:01:39.800 would always say to them no you're no it's like what's the major difference oh i can explain i can
00:01:44.240 explain easily your sexual preference i can explain this very easily it's not even a hard question
00:01:48.300 okay okay a homosexual is if a male who is attracted to males yeah it's a gay man right
00:01:55.680 a woman who is attracted to a female who's attracted other females is a lesbian woman 0.99
00:02:00.640 okay there's these are these are just objective okay if a female says that he if a female says that 0.95
00:02:07.980 she is a male or a male says that that he is a female that is you this is not objective reality
00:02:15.660 they're not even in the same sphere but that isn't objective just saying that you're attracted to
00:02:18.900 some some like your opposite sex that's not objective that's something that you actually have
00:02:23.280 to understand that person and i should be like no wait why is your sexual preference there are the
00:02:28.360 other look it's it's it's objective reality that there are men who are attracted to men
00:02:32.720 and there are women who are attracted to women because we're so forward thinking now 0.98
00:02:36.840 no no no no people didn't want to accept that but it's always whether or not they accepted it
00:02:41.660 it existed yeah but just like it always existed transgender always existed it's just now we're 0.94
00:02:47.240 having the conversation no no it didn't no it doesn't no the feeling that you feel like you
00:02:52.520 are gender dysphoria that's gender dysphoria you want to categorize that's what it's called
00:02:57.460 that's by definition this is what it's called transgenderism is gender dysphoria exists i've said
00:03:03.140 that there are males who feel like they identify more as the opposite sex there are females who feel
00:03:09.160 they identify no i agree with you because that exists there's people that actually trend um they
00:03:14.600 change into women and then five years down the line they're like actually it's the worst thing i've 1.00
00:03:19.620 ever done i want to be a man now there's a child there's a child that is dysphoria yeah it's a dysphoria
00:03:26.420 there are there are many there are people that that's how they feel and they continue in that life
00:03:33.140 and i've never uh you see you're you're the thing is you're arguing against points i'm not making
00:03:37.540 i've never at any point said that someone is not allowed to do that or someone is not allowed to
00:03:43.400 believe that or there are not people who genuinely feel that way yeah i am simply saying just because
00:03:48.280 you feel you are something does not make you that thing i can't just say just because you feel like
00:03:54.020 you're attracted to the opposite sex no it's because naturally no naturally you shouldn't be 0.99
00:04:00.100 attracted to the opposite sex no naturally even in the bible it talks about adam and eve even when
00:04:05.400 comes i think you mean should you should you should no yeah she means should oh okay yeah she
00:04:10.740 misspoke yeah she misspoke okay okay okay you need a man and a woman you said you shouldn't be 0.85
00:04:18.400 attracted to the opposite sex they were just correcting you but like the point the point you're
00:04:24.980 you're gonna make is is he's not even disagreeing with you he's saying there are people that feel
00:04:30.080 like they should be met like women that feel like they should be men and men that feel like they 0.95
00:04:33.520 should be women but throughout history they couldn't they weren't we didn't have trans there 1.00
00:04:37.740 weren't people doing the surgeries and stuff yeah so that's that's a new yeah or the hormones that's
00:04:42.220 a new thing so we should thank god that now we have the technology to do that should we
00:04:46.760 i mean either way can i ask you a question can i ask you one question if are you in a relationship
00:04:55.080 right now no okay place yourself in a relationship with a man man your dream man your dream man
00:05:02.980 dream house dream whole thing right and you're planning a wedding kids you're like i've got my
00:05:11.740 dream life and he turned around to you at dinner one night and said i feel that i i'm getting feelings
00:05:20.360 that i identify more as a woman and i am going to pursue looking at um you know speaking i don't know
00:05:30.840 speaking to a therapist and potentially getting surgery um will you support me and stay with me
00:05:37.320 and can we still have a family what would you do well i wouldn't stay with him because i'm not
00:05:43.600 attracted i i like straight heterosexual men i mean okay yeah but you just said you just said hang on
00:05:50.920 hang on you just said you just said that we have to be more accepting you know we have to understand
00:05:57.520 so this is your this is your boyfriend i'm not saying you're saying you don't have to understand
00:06:03.160 him but you have to understand everyone else i'm not be sexually attracted to him i can say you know
00:06:09.100 what i'm gonna be i'm gonna help you be a part of this process you wouldn't help him sexually i don't
00:06:14.100 want to even help him okay what if what if i have a question i have a question i have a question what
00:06:18.260 what if are we gonna ask the same question i feel like we think so you said you're attracted to
00:06:26.020 straight men what if this man that's transitioning to a woman still likes women he's still considered
00:06:33.380 a straight man so would you stay but i like a man that looks like a woman is not going to look like
00:06:40.220 a woman because to me you want a man that looks like a man you mean what if he has like short hair 0.99
00:06:44.840 just like a bob doesn't wear makeup natural look still looks like a man but it's like i identify
00:06:48.940 as a woman so what's making you a woman if you're not trying to look like a woman feeling you told me
00:06:54.880 it feels it just feels that way well you told me it's not about looks you told us it's not about
00:06:59.540 looks to look like a woman if he's saying you know what i'm i still look like a man and i feel like a
00:07:06.420 woman i guess because i see you as a man i can't really i guess the sexual attraction is still there
00:07:13.420 so what if okay i have a question so what if you're dating a guy okay you're super happy same
00:07:20.160 situation right and instead of him transitioning he tells you i used to be a girl oh that was
00:07:27.140 do you care you probably would have noticed but yeah yeah guys you get the best surgery just because
00:07:35.560 i want to understand them does not mean i'm attracted to it it doesn't mean sexually i want
00:07:40.780 to be with someone like that it just means i'm okay with you experimenting understanding
00:07:46.160 but that's the same thing zoopy was saying he's saying i don't care what you do you can do the
00:07:51.340 hell ever you want but that doesn't make what you're doing real but say so so and i think and i think on
00:07:57.420 some and i think on some level you know this and this is and like i just i don't know if you like to
00:08:02.820 argue or what because because you know deep down that bruce like bruce jenner caitlin whatever it
00:08:09.860 is didn't deserve that award like there's something in you that knows this but but it's like you're
00:08:15.040 you just like to argue i don't know what it is she does to me it just seems like it seems like either
00:08:20.360 you know some trans people and you're worried about affecting maybe you've got some friends that
00:08:25.140 are trans or you know trans people and that you're frightened um do you know what it is i feel like
00:08:30.360 because we're in a podcast already and we've kind of touched on this subject and we got a lot of
00:08:36.100 backlash for it because i was more outspoken about it but esther was more like sitting on the fence
00:08:42.420 about it you know like oh no no so i feel like she's trying to protect people's feelings that's
00:08:48.660 what i feel like you're not actually speaking your truth yeah do you know what okay i'll be honest
00:08:53.040 this is probably and i'm gonna be completely honest i grew up in a very christian traditional home
00:08:59.040 i remember when i was deeply into god i used to tell homosexuals that basically they're going to 1.00
00:09:06.120 hell and honestly back then i believed that that was the truth you are going to hell because you are 0.90
00:09:13.960 basically attracted to someone of the same sex and i remember someone i was in school with
00:09:18.980 i i used to upset him a lot and i didn't realize how upset he was because of the words that i say to him
00:09:27.100 but i couldn't help it because i'd go to church my pastor would start preaching about homosexuals and
00:09:32.020 how i have a question when did your mind um because zuby kind of asked this earlier but when did your mind
00:09:37.180 change on this stuff i would say maybe when i became a lot less religious and i started to think about
00:09:43.820 is it in university possibly um no i actually went i went to china actually i remember going to china and
00:09:51.760 in china the major thing that they have is they renounce all religion so they don't um they're
00:09:57.660 basically against christians muslim and all that and i think i liked the way that everyone was so 1.00
00:10:02.880 yeah i don't care and i think that because i was with a lot of like christians muslim and they were
00:10:08.120 all like yeah christian is the it's the right way and they were like no it's allah and i really thought
00:10:12.640 that was quite ignorant to not listen to people and think your way is the right way and i think it
00:10:17.980 made me start to really take things back to and i thought about that guy that i really upset
00:10:22.720 because that was generally my truth but then now i look back at here i'm like how the hell but you're
00:10:29.180 saying that you upset that guy how about them upsetting us women but he's not done anything to
00:10:34.580 upset us real women they're not upsetting us though i think i mean i think i think that i think the leah
00:10:40.680 thomas the girl that got second girl no leah thomas when she won the when he he won the woman's like
00:10:48.440 swimming title whoever the hell was in second place i'm sure she was upset but that's what happens when 0.96
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