Beauty Standards In The West Vs Eastern Europe
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Summary
Beauty standards have changed a lot in the last century and we're here to talk about it! In this episode, we talk about the evolution of beauty standards and how they've changed over the years. We discuss the difference between beauty standards in the UK and in the US, the impact of social media, and whether or not beauty standards are still as they were 100 years ago.
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do you guys think that beauty standards are higher were higher a hundred years ago or today
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today definitely today definitely today is there anyone that thinks they were higher a hundred
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years ago anyone no because if you look back at old black and white photographs from the victorian
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era and then you look at you just do a scroll for instagram now i mean i mean like it's night
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and day in terms of in terms of hotness and i think that's down to a number of things it's like
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to do with nutrition it's to do with fitness it's to do with the fact that we're all encouraged to
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work out now uh makeup you know clothing there's so many different things bits of surgery and
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procedures and stuff i mean there's so many different things that come into it so i think
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yeah definitely overall you know people are more aesthetically pleasing now it was probably only
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the rich people that were super hot back in the that's what i was gonna say i was gonna say i
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feel like um things are more accessible now so yeah makeup is like it's you know less i don't know
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about pricing but i feel like surgery is more accessible to people and stuff like that and i
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feel like that's probably why the standards are a little bit higher yeah do women respond when
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beauty standards go higher do you think that women do you feel like we step up to the plate
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we yeah yeah and how how do we respond typically we follow the trend yeah
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we follow the trend what trends so like the bbl trend that's happening at the moment i feel like
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it's going down now but um yeah i guess we just follow the trend like um what else is it like
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makeup yeah makeup i like yeah lip filler yeah i disagree a little bit because i don't follow like
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all the latest trend all the time sometimes it's overwhelming to me so i try to do what is best for me
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and obviously we live in this society where social media is like it's everything so everyone is
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bombarded with all these images but it doesn't mean that i'm gonna follow any single trend that's up
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there because it's overwhelming to me so um does beauty standards include weight yes to an extent
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i think yeah yeah does anyone think it doesn't yeah i don't think so anymore i don't i don't think so
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anymore i feel like um i feel like all shapes and sizes right now i might be wrong are accepted
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so um i just feel like for me personally it's based on how well how well you keep yourself
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and how put together you look not about your size that's just me personally do you think men think
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the same thing yeah it doesn't i actually i actually think so i actually yeah i think it depends yeah
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yeah no but in general so we could talk about in general would you say men care or they don't care
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about women in general hence why girls are out here doing bbls i think it depends on nobody i don't
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think it's bbl the bum thing yeah yeah yeah yeah do you think women are more put together today
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than 100 years ago definitely yeah definitely yeah i don't know you look at some old some of these
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old pictures though seriously you see like these dusty old like photographs sometimes you see i mean
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they're not looking good you know the the ladies weren't representing back then you know what i
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mean but then back then it might have been a thing that's how they were meant to look yeah it's true
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it's true yeah those days were like oh yeah they're beautiful yeah yeah it's true it's true look at
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them now but back then yeah she was hot yeah it was more natural though back in the days it was like
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you know beauty is like today's like oh you need to be the perfect the perfect maker and i don't think
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they cared much but don't you think the one thing i've observed like here and also in the states a little
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bit as well is that a lot of there's a seems to be this fashion now for women wearing quite baggy
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clothes have you noticed like if you go to a shopping mall or something like that during the
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daytime a lot of the women are wearing like quite baggy jeans quite baggy and and maybe less makeup
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and stuff which sort of goes counter to that instagram thing in a way doesn't it because i think
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just looking around the streets i think a lot of women are dressing up sort of a bit less
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certainly during the daytime here but then if you go to say poland or if you go to ukraine or
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something like prior to the you know the war um you would see a very different sort of story so
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i think in the west it feels like um i don't want to say standards are falling but it seems like a
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more casualness is sort of accepted into the women because i see more yoga pants and sweat i would say
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i see more yoga pants and sweats than i did 20 like 10 years ago let's say when i was 26 when i was 16
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you know it was like i don't know because you guys are different about yoga pants a little bit but in
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the u.s they're like super common but i remember it was like a fight on facebook about if yoga pants
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were acceptable in public i don't know if you guys have that here if that was just an american fight
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i was in i was in la recently and i saw there was a lot of yoga pants going on down in sort of um
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venice and venice beach and like places like that yeah so my question is if beauty standards are higher
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and women respond to beauty standards why are women more overweight today and we dress up less
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is that stats that you have by any chance yeah and the 19 and the 19 i mean there's no stat on
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dressing up that's just anecdotal um but when it comes to weight only 10 of women were overweight in
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the 40s where 60 of women in the uk are overweight 70 in america you gotta remember back in the olden
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days they had this thing where they used to wear corsets in order to line their bodies
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so they had this that was their trend you know that isn't the trend here so you gotta understand
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that as times as society changes so does the trends i guess no yeah but my question is more
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like if women respond to beauty standards and women actually cared about beauty standards like why are we
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more overweight and we dress up less because of the food that we eat right but that kind of indicates
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that we don't care as much as we say we do like because we're supposed to be under this immense
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pressure right from society but it doesn't seem like our looks are getting better as a whole
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i think again if you compare other societies because like before the you know the in the west
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sorry but just just just just as a counterpoint though so when like in 2021 i was in spent quite a lot
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of time in in russia and then and then also in ukraine prior to what's happening now and um it is a
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very different story though you do get a lot of women who are very elegant they're still wearing
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you know maybe heels slightly less during the daytime but you know what i mean very very elegant
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wearing dresses all the time but very very feminine in a way that you don't see so much here
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and i think that's got something to do with feminism to be honest or at least the the tide of
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because society is telling women you you don't have to make why you don't have to make an effort for
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it sounds very crude but you don't have to make an effort for men right because why should you
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right because you are you're enough in yourself okay um and and i think that's got something to do
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with it to be to be honest you know i don't think society is and i'm not saying society should be
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compelling women to do that but i don't think it is whereas i think in some of those other countries
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that are arguably a little bit more patriarchal let's say um there is still that pressure and so
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women are dressing up more and also they have to compete with one another because otherwise if
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you're the the girl who's you know just just not not bothering and everyone else is then you're
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going to kind of get left to the side aren't you so yeah i think it just actually you know you
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raised a very good point because feminism you know with feminism women's and like oh i can do
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whatever i want when i want how i want so like you know i can under dress myself no one should judge
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me for that and i think that it's a little bit too much but it's interesting because feminists
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complain the most about beauty standards but it just seems like they care the least about them
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well their view that wouldn't their view just be like well i don't have to bother because
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why would i let a man dictate how i look yeah but that's not yeah they'll say they'll say oh women
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have such high beauty standards it's so hard for women because of the beauty standards instagram
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and you know well i could sympathize it's like if we really cared wouldn't we be more put together
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i agree this point i think it's because there's a lot of activists now and feminism and they're trying
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to prove that they feel like all women do what they do for men but some people do things for
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themselves yeah but because there's that lining of doing things for men a lot of feminist feminisms
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now are like they don't want to do it just because they feel like it's doing it for a man
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is it even such a bad thing even if they were doing it for men though because like you get guys
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definitely not get guys who work who work out because they want they want to look ripped for
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for women yeah so yeah it wouldn't be the terrible to be honest yeah it's like everyone wants to be
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liked in a way yeah it's like if you know if you like someone and you want to you know wear something
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and you think yeah no no i'm wearing this just you know you want to feel good but you also you know
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want to yeah be nice for other people yeah i think whose beauty standards are higher men or women
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i think it depends okay wait i want to make a rule no it depends you have to pick one pick one
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i think maybe men have higher beauty standards i think okay they see a lot of women and they now
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begin to compare make comparisons between different types of women and it's like when they see a
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particular woman look in a particular way if they would compare another woman to the woman that
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they've seen but you think that men have higher standards for women not that the men have the
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higher standards they have to live up to just to clarify i think men have higher standards for women
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for women so like the women have higher beauty standards to me yes and that's what's making women
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feel like they need to comply with these standards who's pickier men or women
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men definitely yeah yeah what what percent of the time do you think men swipe right on dating apps
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when does what sorry yeah what percent of the time probably 70 percent
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what percent of the time do you think women swipe right on dating apps i think about the same
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do you know what i would be percent i think women women are more complacent than men
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are more complacent yeah i think they accept more than men do you think men are very like if they've
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they've got a certain standard and they're more rigid than women you think men are pickier than
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women 100 definitely yeah okay what percent of the time do you think men swipe right on dating apps
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70 or even 80. i think it's a high percentage 70. it's really high i think it's a low percentage
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that men's so men swipe right um 60 to 70 percent of the time where women what percent of the time
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do you think they swipe right oh wait no sorry i think it's 45 percent i'm sorry i misspoke that's
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it's about 45 to 50 not for men yeah for men um what percent of the time do you think women
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swipe right probably like much less yeah i would say like 10 percent 70 to 80 i don't know i would say
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70 to 80. what do you think do you know this you have to know this stat well it is around that isn't
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it is about 20 percent five percent five percent yeah i was actually i was i thought the male one
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was actually going to be a bit higher to be honest because a lot of guys well not a lot of guys but
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guys have sometimes have this strategy before the algorithm started clamping down that they would just
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swipe on everything and then see what came through you know it depends what study you look at yeah
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but how could you say that women are or that men are pickier if women only swipe right five percent
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of the time do you know why because they're talking about the they're talking about the top one
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percent men aren't they those top one percent men those chads they're really picky but that's
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all they're bothered about they're not bothered about the other guys who aren't getting a look at
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anyway yeah the top five percent of men 10 what what percent of men do you guys think are sexually active
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