Bring Back Shame
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss obesity and fat shaming. We discuss the impact fat shaming has had on the way we view fat people and how it affects our mental health, as well as the impact it has on the fashion industry and society in general.
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yeah like y2k you might have heard of it like a lot of that kind of fashion is coming back
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so a lot of people are going to try and be skinnier to match that fashion i think like
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fashion and the way people want to dress and look like kind of follow each other yeah yeah but and
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it's silly because why change your body for a micro trend just be healthy you know but it's
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it's how it's how it goes i just think hourglass has always been like maryland like even if you
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look at audrey hepper and there's enough like i like i think it's not i think the hip to waist
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ratio yeah you can be very thin and still have an hourglass figure because you've got really wide
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hips and a small like rib cage yeah but you're not going to be like marilyn monroe marilyn roe was uh
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no i i agree with you i think she wasn't very thin but she had that shape yeah like i think there's a
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difference between like you know saying like we have different body types but either way like no
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no one's turning down jennifer aniston and she's built more like square she was a pinnacle of
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beauty in the early 2000s she's not she doesn't have that hourglass you know shape but you know in
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the same era like kim kardashian was also beautiful like i think it's just like thin thinner oh this is
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the picture from like the like look at it there's not really obesity back then everyone's balling what is
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this in america is there a picture of are you going to do is there is there more than one
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i thought there was like three oh it would have been good to have a contrast everybody kind of
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looks the same yeah that's what i'm saying like everyone was thin for the most part so it's almost
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like we're normalizing something that shouldn't be normal yeah and saying find me a try like that's
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another other issue is that people that are overweight feel like they can't be made fun of
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just like everyone else oh something crazy happened to me the other day so i was in like a market in
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buy some jeans and i was like there's like a way of trying them on like using your neck to see if
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it fits your waist it's like a cool hack like you go around your neck and if it fits then it fits you
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and i ended up buying these jeans and like they fit and the woman's like oh they look great on you i
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was like oh perfect i'm gonna buy them and i'm walking away and the woman shouts i hate skinny people
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so imagine like i was just thinking yeah yeah like in a joke way but like i just thought to myself like no
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one really makes the reverse of that joke i know it's like cliche to say you say i hate fat people
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people be like yeah like no one batted an eyelid yeah but i feel like we've really normalized i don't
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know like these back like side comments towards women that are a lot thinner and i feel like we can't
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really talk about people that um are obese the same way as we used to the transparency is gone i feel
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everything's sugar coated now anyways yeah i feel like if when someone tells you oh like you've lost
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weight like it still has that same i just feel like it's the same way of saying oh like you're
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fat now i'd be like oh i'd feel a bit like insecure like yeah no my parents don't really hold back i'm
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not gonna lie me either i'm like but i feel like it was good for me though like i i think i would have
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been like i've always been the type to like struggle like i i've had to work really hard because i eat
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really bad like i'm an athlete so it kind of evens out but like like honestly my mom when i was younger
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would she would she would fat shame me a little bit she'd be like oh you got your pot but honestly
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like it hurt at the time but i'm so glad she did i got on the treadmill i think there's definitely
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something that is important of like a parent being like honest with their like son or daughter
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especially if they get into like a place that's unhealthy i think um it's a shame because a lot of
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children are abuse like obese in childhood never really lose um will stay obese for the rest of
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their life and then they have problems with diabetes they die earlier and i feel like if that was
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just addressed like when they were young if that honestly like like your mother like maybe not fat
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shaming but just you know i'm gonna help you with your health that conversation with had i think
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it would really improve like health in general i feel like fat shaming was the best way to do it
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you look fat if it comes from a place of love yeah why not if it's someone you know you may not know
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then it's just like sorry how dare you but if it's someone like if your family yeah yeah of
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course like why why not it's the truth it's not like because being fat i mean it's not it doesn't
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have to be negative like unless you're obese and you have actual health problems ultimately
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perhaps you need to change something in your life if you feel like you're gaining too much weight
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but if someone's telling you are like listen i feel like um you've put on a bit too much or
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it's just like oh yeah no i know i know i've realized as well it's nothing it's nothing
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too personal you shouldn't feel so attacked okay blessing do the second clip the i'm a 10 one yeah that one
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is girls are objective or do you think they think they're hotter than they are
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or do they underrate themselves go around personally i think it depends on the person because
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growing up i'm obviously not skinny hi everyone i'm not skinny so growing up i was never the beauty
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standard for anyone so like all my friends were getting chatted out by people blah blah blah blah and
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i was just the other one you know so like i never really thought of myself as
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as an attractive person like i would never call myself anything more than a thought but now like
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i don't really care about what anyone thinks about me like i've grown into myself and i've i've i'm
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comfortable with who i am now that like even if you guys call me delusion or whatever i think i'm
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maybe not a 10 let's not go that far but like definitely an eight so like whether you guys think
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i am or not that's got nothing to do with her but like yeah what is it that took you from a four to
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an eight if nothing's changed what is it that takes loving myself and and looking in the mirror and not
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being disgusted at what i see i understand that yeah so but that doesn't you're you're not necessarily
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being objective about how other people view you right because isn't that what a rating really is
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like if i rated myself one to ten i give myself a five i think i'm normal looking and i just think
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it's based on my results i think if i was an eight nine or ten i would have had modeling contracts
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because people in the top 20 of beauty they get they get modeling contracts so what is beauty i mean
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there's a lot of things like if you i mean you can you can go online and have people rate your
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pictures and they rank you one to ten that's wild and and so you can get you can get a lot of data
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that says how attractive you are in society and men will wait you women will rate you like every day
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how we look is like how we represent ourselves it's not fun but it's just like being honest so um and
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it's also like you can take good dating apps to like you know everyone's tinder bumble like they have
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a ranking for you behind the scenes yeah damn yeah well i trust so um i don't understand when
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girls say like i'm an eight because or sometimes i hear girls say time because i hear this a lot
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where they say like because i love myself and i'm like confident now but don't you think
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attractiveness is based on results they may be but i don't care about those results to be honest
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but do you think then you're not being objective about your how attractive you are or how attractive
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anyone else might be i guess not but i think yeah that stuff's not really important to me
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i think when when someone when someone rates somebody why why does that have anything to do with
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them like if you rate me if someone rated like somebody a three and it's just like okay that's
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that's your opinion like it's not okay so my first question is based on this clip do you think women
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are honest with each other no no no what do you think eddie 100 no no way do you think that someone
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that's overweight can be above a five yeah oh that's a techie one there's men that like fluffy women
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like there's hmm how many men enough i think there's something yeah but what do you mean by fluffy do
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you know what i think we need to define what the like diabetes asthma wait wait um can you can you can
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you google um like a bmi chart like do bmi chart um pictures like something like that then we can
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we can decide as a group because i think you have to define the parameters because i think have you
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guys seen wally wally the movie and like all the women and then the people yeah you're the one with the
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the fat the fat one yeah yeah do that do that yeah yeah there you go can you make it bigger yeah yeah
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thank you we'll zoom in a little bit the red's kind of smaller than i expected for like the red so
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well i think that's just like the max you know like that's the minimum max it keeps going you know
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yeah so can all right we'll do by color and i'm not i'm not talking about body shape obviously these
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aren't the most voluptuous women you know but no cheeks in none of them but just interesting sense
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yeah no i want the cheeks look at it now okay okay okay so um does this on the right on the left does
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that say underweight i can't read it i think yeah the blue is underweight and then the green
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is that normal and then overweight is the the the light yellow so yeah can someone be attractive
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i still say yeah yeah i just think i think we need to define the parameters because
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attractiveness and whether a woman's i said about i said above a five
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looks wise looks like one to ten like they're they're more attractive than someone that's
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average if if if the body that i have in mind uh-huh goes to be treated 100 percent okay what about
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obese obese it depends on the cheeks so you think that gut as long as there's cheeks that gut is a
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madness but so that so then would the answer be no well yeah if you had a gut like that it's a
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madness what about men there's a lot of men that also this size that are deemed attractive or are
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very successful with women what do you think about like what do you mean like ugly guys like eight
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girls no like overweight guys overweight guys are still seen as very attractive are they rich
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normally yeah literally yeah that's like the cheat code for men i mean like men and women are weighed
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on different things so like men don't care about our money but men are about women care about men's money
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i mean you could argue that maybe the girls wouldn't have like genuine desire for them they
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just want you know the money but i don't know it depends in africa um big belly is a sign of wealth
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yeah that kind of wealth is attractive yeah like different countries i like they force feed the
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women to make them bigger because it seemed that's like one small tribe in africa it's an exception
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i will agree and i looked at that tribe because i've heard so much about this tribe
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this tribe is like the one everyone brings up yeah that country is in poverty so it's really not even
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the majority of the country it's like a very it's it's maybe because of that because they're in poverty
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maybe like food resources aren't very common yeah and then to have those is kind of like a sign of wealth
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yeah i've seen it's attractive i'm assuming i don't know i just looked it up one day and i was like this
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is the smallest freaking tribe that i've heard so much about validate no like i'm so tired of hearing
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about this tribe and the other thing is like on the show i've had so many people tell me like they
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won't even tell me okay you know i'm gonna ask the panel this first is lizzo a 10. oh no
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is lizzo get a picture of lizzo yeah let's put can we put lizzo on the screen
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what are people saying lizzo's a 10. i can't get like i've had where have you been so many times
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on the show i've said okay like what about lizzo i can see already she's finished wait wait wait but
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like face card like she's got i think she's got a really pretty face yeah this is why girls lie to
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each other no no no no this is why you can't trust girls for nothing i'm not saying anything about her
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body weight i'm talking about her face all right one to ten one to ten okay rank her one time let
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me think just looks yeah look just appearance one to ten looks including weight yeah it just looks
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just looks oh man so from the from the next three yes i think that's too hard too
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i think i'll go with five i'm gonna say neutral five five is average you know no like i feel like
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she's got a really really pretty face she's got a very symmetrical face and you cannot disagree with me
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i will never take your opinion on board look i'm talking about her face i'm talking about if she
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even lost weight her features will come out more like i think symmetry is very attractive and she's
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a very symmetrical face to me so i like her face yeah because you know what when i hear is she
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attractive in the face yeah devoid of her body i think would i still have sex with her but why is
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attractiveness always gotta because i'm a man but he's a man i was gonna say he's a man i want to chop
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but both men and women chop so no but men chop no but he but he is like that's like you know yeah
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men i feel like just go for what they see as in like if if you're not if they're not it says
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attraction yeah no the basic principle is the men are attracted to what they see whilst women are
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attracted to what they hear so that's why men lie and women wear makeup i want to agree with you
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but now i look at her face and think i hear what you're saying
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in some she's pretty but that's just me trying to be nice like i would not give her okay one to
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ten eddie one to ten she's a one but like i feel like a one would be like something that's a little
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bit more like 300 pounds no like 300 pounds no like like the face that you could make liz's face look
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worse is what i'm saying yeah i mean i don't think she's like like if she was thinner she'd be fine
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but she's 300 pounds but i don't think she's a one i'll give her two damn what about you what you
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think i don't know um okay me just being outside the whole motion i would say four but then if someone
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was to come to me if like someone i like if my boyfriend was to come up to me like listen i'm
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leaving you for her i'd be like are you serious like you're taking a piss i don't know what your
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self-esteem's gone so what did you give her i won and your opinion probably matters the most your
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rating thank you why does it matter the most because he's actually a man in terms of a sexual mate a
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relationship everything like our opinion doesn't matter right can be attracted to women too yeah i i
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know but i'm just saying would you would you would you because are you attracted to women too i'm
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attracted to women too okay so would you date lizzo she's not my type oh god cop out innit
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