JustPearlyThings - June 12, 2023


Cat Woman HATES ANDREW TATE for THIS!


Episode Stats

Length

9 minutes

Words per Minute

227.20854

Word Count

2,199

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the difference between good business and bad business, manipulation and mental abuse, and how to define what is abuse and what is not. We also discuss what it means to be a victim of emotional abuse and how it relates to our mental health.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 when's the difference between good business and manipulation because let's say you work in a nine
00:00:05.620 to five job and your managers suggest if you don't do a task properly you're going to be in trouble
00:00:11.100 so would you agree that's some form of mental abuse or does that not make the the sort of
00:00:16.300 because that causes a lot of stress that can put someone in a certain way but as soon as we um
00:00:21.480 come away from the work aspect and it comes a bit more personal why do the why do things change in
00:00:27.320 that respect i think everyone has a motive like you can kind of throw it with the work example you
00:00:32.340 just had if you're working a nine to five and if you haven't done your work which is like in your
00:00:36.080 contract and there's naturally there's going to be backlash because you're being paid to work if
00:00:40.540 you're taking that same stance for being at home for example and it's like your husband or wife said
00:00:46.340 oh if i come home and the washing up isn't done then there's going to be consequences but it's the
00:00:50.460 same concept i'm saying your manager's saying to you before you even started the task if you don't
00:00:54.860 do this you could possibly be fired so is that not a form of abuse i think i think i think we
00:01:00.680 obviously again this is the lovely thing about having these debates because there's different
00:01:03.980 definitions right for me personally i think if it's at the detriment to someone's human dignity yeah
00:01:09.420 yeah that's abuse so dignity as in like then what is your is your well-being or earning money on the
00:01:15.880 day so i definitely define that as abuse anyone at work that will tell me something's going to happen
00:01:20.600 to me before i've even done it but then we we make it a lot more different when it comes to
00:01:25.380 relationships and i'm not saying that that's what you ladies are fighting for but i just find it
00:01:29.120 interesting that's what we do as humans yeah i think humans are super complex this is why it's a great
00:01:33.820 thing to discuss emotional abuse and involves attempts to frighten control or isolate you that's
00:01:40.080 what they says online it's cool so about that definition everything everyone's kind of said
00:01:45.040 does fit into it i wouldn't say lying that would really fit into it i mean but i mean what's the
00:01:51.400 line what's the ends yeah well i think then and this is why your point about intention comes up
00:01:57.420 you know intention what do you mean so tam was making a point about kind of like motivation and
00:02:03.900 intention behind stuff so i guess is the lie to exert a sense of control yeah power i think i think
00:02:13.500 intentions is stupid because you're never going to know someone's intentions so you can't you can't
00:02:19.300 mind read you can't mind read someone's intentions right i think sometimes some people don't even know
00:02:24.940 what their intent is yeah but i would even i would argue with you i'd say uh intention does matter
00:02:29.680 like to say who cares is is not it's not fair because even like in the law intention matters
00:02:35.080 like if you slip and fall and someone dies as a result you didn't intend to do that you don't go
00:02:39.780 to jail in the same way that if you plan that so i think intention matters figuring that out is a
00:02:44.440 different thing but it's hard it's i wouldn't agree with you to say it doesn't matter who cares
00:02:48.780 yeah i guess because for example let's say you're walking and say you're at carnival um someone throws a
00:02:56.440 bottle at you at one of us it hits your head and then you're oh my gosh i'm i'm hurt right now and
00:03:02.340 they say oh there's no intention there it was an accident it doesn't matter i guess does it matter
00:03:06.440 how do you feel at that i guess you're right in the eyes of the law but like i just think the results
00:03:10.740 matter yeah like i don't really give a shit like okay if somebody hit me with their car on accident
00:03:15.740 or on purpose i don't give a shit i got hit by a car yeah because that comes the same so and you're in
00:03:22.500 the eyes of the law sure but just personally i'm like i don't really give a shit yeah yeah you hit
00:03:27.500 the nail on the head there you hit the nail on the head because the outcome is the same which is pain
00:03:31.620 no no but let's let's try this i like what you said because so you know let's use that with the
00:03:35.820 andrew tape situation like if he's intentionally trying to like mentally or whatever abuse someone
00:03:40.640 we can say he's an asshole but if he's just like walking home and saying like hey like i have this car
00:03:46.120 this whatever and someone's you know persuaded in a certain way and that might be abuse or whatever i mean
00:03:51.780 he's not an asshole in that sense i would just disagree that he mentally abused anyone he allowed
00:03:56.140 those women to be millionaires i mean i'm not i'm not even yeah i'm so curious because this is why
00:04:01.140 this is such a great conversation you seem to be like quite a proponent of some of his viewpoints
00:04:06.020 what is it that you like about the things that he's saying um i think that he i think a lot of the
00:04:12.460 stuff he says makes sense like for example he talks about how men and women are different and they
00:04:16.020 have different roles i think a lot of times in society we have women that want to be men and men that
00:04:20.260 want to be women and i think it leads to people being unhappy in the long term and it's a lot of
00:04:23.720 bad advice um and he just says that men are different and women are different um i think he
00:04:29.080 says a lot of things that are true they're uncomfortable like old women are less desirable
00:04:33.040 women that have slept around are less desirable but it's true no dude wants a girl that's been ran
00:04:37.300 through by the whole football team they just don't in general um i mean there's exceptions but i think
00:04:44.420 like he's at least honest okay um and i'll second that he's merely stating things that most of society
00:04:51.040 thinks behind closed doors so and to then point your finger at him and be like you shouldn't be
00:04:56.260 saying that i think is very hypocritical because there's a lot of influencers there stating their
00:05:01.080 views i think there's a there's a young lady that's being compared does anyone know her name i think
00:05:06.100 she's latina descent and she's really big on tiktok and she's making statements about men left right
00:05:12.240 and center and no no banning of any sorts been going on but i think yes he's he's extreme in how
00:05:18.260 he says it but this is what people think but you know sometimes it's an like goes back to the saying
00:05:23.080 it's not about what you say it's how you say it and sometimes when your delivery is very
00:05:27.260 straightforward very aggressive very you know straight to the point sometimes it comes across
00:05:31.800 quite aggressive and people will just be like oh just write you off straight away whereas if your
00:05:35.380 delivery was a bit different i wonder if andrew tate's delivery was different if people would
00:05:39.960 if he wouldn't wouldn't have been banned on social media and if he would have taken him differently
00:05:44.380 i think that's a woman's point of view i think that's a woman's point of view though because men
00:05:48.140 communicate differently than women yeah and again it goes back to like women trying to make men
00:05:52.780 women but they're not they're men yeah and then communicate differently than women they're more
00:05:57.700 direct they're more honest typically i mean like how many times like i mean i've had so many
00:06:03.000 girls on the show tell me that lizzo is like above a five which is just like crazy it's lizzo
00:06:09.740 but every i think everyone's scale is different at the end of the day what your five is someone else
00:06:16.340 yeah someone else yeah i mean i think i think objectively like if you're 300 pounds you're below
00:06:22.460 a five that's your opinion though that's your opinion i mean it's that's your opinion but it's based
00:06:28.840 off of reality which women don't like to live in because even this is like not reality and you know
00:06:33.920 it on some level because you know if you walk into a bar with lizzo you guys are all going to get more
00:06:37.480 attention than lizzo like not necessarily like if you're looking for exceptions it's not the rule
00:06:42.220 like you could take you could take you could take dating app data where we like let's like put your
00:06:46.100 profile in lizzo's profile who's going to get more attention it's going to be you we could go to
00:06:49.640 a modeling con a modeling agency and say who are they going to sign you or lizzo in general unless you do
00:06:53.900 that victoria's secret type like you know the new the new body positivity type shit i know again
00:06:58.520 again exceptions but whenever you go anywhere where there's like an objective standard of beauty where
00:07:02.560 like people are fine this the most attractive in general your you guys are all prettier than lizzo
00:07:07.480 and that's not that's my question is and i think yeah you make some again interesting points around like
00:07:12.960 it's really helpful to see that like i i don't know if you guys always see like the stats that come out
00:07:17.860 from certain dating apps don't know if i'm allowed to say certain names but they they produce these stuff
00:07:22.280 right like who comes out as the most desirable woman my question would be and modeling agencies
00:07:27.860 and modeling agencies yeah um by whose beauty standards i was just gonna say that i mean i
00:07:32.820 would say like collectively society as a whole so if you survey if you survey if you survey men and
00:07:38.260 women as well and you if you survey men and women as a whole in general in most societies
00:07:42.920 they put in london and they put in most and most societies throughout the world everywhere i guarantee
00:07:49.380 like just like just based that way let me let me finish in most societies throughout the world
00:07:53.720 everywhere if we put a picture of you guys and a picture of lizzo if you ask most guys and most
00:07:58.320 girls they would find you more attractive in west africa and except yeah they always this is what
00:08:02.940 this is what girls do like so i've been doing this a couple months not you personally but like
00:08:07.000 like this is what they'll do they'll bring up the one exception in that one society in in west
00:08:11.860 africa you're right there's one society in west africa where that is the exception
00:08:15.760 but everywhere else that is the rule i think that's such a eurocentric way of viewing beauty
00:08:22.040 you look at the size of africa it's look at the size of europe i won't even do all that i won't
00:08:25.900 even do all that i think what we can also look at is just beauty standards shift right like i was
00:08:30.200 10 years ago having a like a fat ass was like okay you but nowadays it's like if you don't have
00:08:35.320 a fat ass you're not attractive exactly but that stays a while wait talk talk and you're talking
00:08:39.620 to you sorry it stays a while when there's a standard set so um let's say 10 years ago being
00:08:44.800 a supermodel model thin was in fashion it will stay there for a little bit then there come another
00:08:49.180 trend yeah it's not like it just changes but but but the point i'm making is that the issue that i'm
00:08:54.320 having is and i agree with you it's weird i didn't think i was going to disagree with you as much as
00:08:58.200 i'm doing today but um when it comes down to that number of like or you're a five and below it's
00:09:03.640 like okay 10 years ago if i had a fat ass i'm a five and below but i didn't say 10 years ago i said
00:09:09.620 today but i'm just saying like it shifts so for you to say like oh like i i'm not gonna comment on
00:09:16.160 lizzo but for you to say that so definitively that if you're over this you're that i think that's
00:09:21.680 what people have a hard time dealing with and on top of that it's like we connect that what's that
00:09:25.440 five mean okay do you think do you think in most of human history okay well there probably wasn't
00:09:30.340 even women over 300 pounds in most of human history but since since the development of like
00:09:36.520 obesity has obesity ever been desired by and large by ben