JustPearlyThings - June 12, 2023


Dating Apps EXPOSED This About Modern Women


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9 minutes

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2,256

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198

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In this episode, we discuss cheating in relationships and how to deal with it in the modern dating world. We also talk about whether or not women are side chicks and why they should be in a relationship with a man on the side.

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00:00:00.000 I think, yeah, I hear what you guys are saying, but I believe that, I think it kind of just depends on how you discover that he's cheating.
00:00:11.320 If you know that when he says he's going, I don't know, to Manchester or to Liverpool or something like that, then that's what he's doing.
00:00:18.220 But you don't have like actual evidence. I don't feel like you would go looking for the evidence if he's got your whole situation set up.
00:00:24.640 Now, if you get embarrassed and someone's coming up to you like, yo, then I feel like maybe it's a bit different.
00:00:32.400 But I think a lot of women would play a blind eye to it as long as they don't feel publicly disrespected. 1.00
00:00:37.980 I think the thing is, you know what? The thing is, women share men all the time. 1.00
00:00:45.840 If you're dating someone casually, for example, or if you're in a situationship, you're usually sharing them and you kind of already know.
00:00:50.680 I think it's just like what you said about it. I don't just want it rubbed in their faces.
00:00:53.620 But you'd be surprised, really surprised on what some women will put up with if they're with someone they actually like. 1.00
00:01:00.840 Do you think that sometimes they prefer if they do know the situation rather than if they do know you've got a main person on the side?
00:01:07.340 It depends.
00:01:08.100 Do you think they are more comfortable? I think women would be more comfortable with that because there's no suspicion involved.
00:01:13.340 It's actually like that's what you're doing. It is what it is.
00:01:15.700 He's cheating on you and he wants you to be faithful though. That's the thing. It's not like a free for all.
00:01:19.960 It's just like, I'm doing my thing, but hey, you got a pattern as well.
00:01:24.380 It depends at the stage as well in answer your question.
00:01:26.700 So you can tell them from the get-go, this is the situation.
00:01:30.600 And then they have the choice if they want to get on board.
00:01:32.840 Or sometimes it doesn't come out until later and then they have to find out.
00:01:37.120 And I've, I can't speak for anyone else, but I've had someone say to me, I don't care.
00:01:41.420 I just don't want to see it.
00:01:42.700 I mean, I think in general, modern women like are side chicks for sure. 1.00
00:01:48.020 Yeah.
00:01:48.620 100%.
00:01:49.020 I mean, if you look at dating app data, it's, you can't deny it.
00:01:51.820 We swipe right 5% of the time on the same guys basically.
00:01:55.160 And then on top of that, like what, what comes first typically, typically.
00:01:58.560 And I know, I know there's exceptions, but sex or relationships.
00:02:02.000 So he's right.
00:02:03.220 You start off as a side chick.
00:02:04.300 Do you think modern men are side men without realizing?
00:02:06.500 Because men go for the top women as well. 0.99
00:02:09.180 I don't think.
00:02:10.140 No, no, no, no.
00:02:11.420 That's not statistically true.
00:02:12.700 They swipe right 45% of the time and it's higher on some guys.
00:02:15.400 Who do they like?
00:02:15.800 Who do they actually want to be with?
00:02:17.540 Men really aren't that picky to be fair.
00:02:19.680 Like, honestly, like, I mean, you, you guys can correct me if I'm wrong.
00:02:22.900 If you're hot enough, nice enough, young enough, they're, they're cool.
00:02:25.880 What if you're not hot?
00:02:27.340 If you're ugly?
00:02:28.080 They just want to take you out anyway.
00:02:29.060 I mean, let's just.
00:02:29.980 What if you're not hot?
00:02:30.900 The majority of women are not hot. 0.93
00:02:32.780 I know it looks like they are.
00:02:33.760 I disagree.
00:02:34.600 Majority women are hot. 1.00
00:02:35.680 No.
00:02:36.020 I think it looks like it because the majority of women we see, I think the majority of women
00:02:40.440 we see publicly on TV, on Instagram, these are the women, the beautiful women put themselves 0.84
00:02:44.760 out there.
00:02:45.340 But the majority of women, when you're walking into Tesco are not stunners. 1.00
00:02:48.820 You don't walk into Tesco and be like, oh my God, I can't believe how hot everyone is.
00:02:51.980 It's usually, it's usually, it's usually, it's usually based on their own poor choices though.
00:02:56.340 If even in the U S here, and everyone will call America fat, but I looked at the data here.
00:03:00.460 It's not much better, but you're in the top 20% of women if you're in shape. 1.00
00:03:05.000 So all you have to do is be in shape.
00:03:06.860 Most guys are fine.
00:03:08.080 But I do think it's not just women that go for high quality. 0.67
00:03:11.160 The way men flock to beautiful women and high quality women is no different to how women 0.98
00:03:15.460 flock to high quality men.
00:03:17.200 If you take a girl who's not attractive and is not in shape, she doesn't have that same 0.96
00:03:21.880 success online dating.
00:03:23.080 She doesn't have that same success with men.
00:03:24.560 And she doesn't have men in her DMs. 1.00
00:03:25.780 Yes, she does.
00:03:27.440 No, no, no, no, I'm telling you, you're wrong.
00:03:30.580 Like that's statistically, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:03:32.720 It's statistically wrong.
00:03:33.880 An average chick has more options than, than a top man. 0.84
00:03:37.020 If you look at dating, if you, an average girl, so average chick, it gets more matches 0.86
00:03:41.480 than the top men.
00:03:42.660 But matches is sex.
00:03:44.060 We're talking about investment.
00:03:45.120 Women don't care about sex. 1.00
00:03:46.540 You've got to remember that.
00:03:47.380 You're measuring men and women on the same standard.
00:03:49.340 Who gets to the same level of sex? 0.98
00:03:51.140 Yeah, okay, of course, sex, fine.
00:03:53.060 But women value investment. 1.00
00:03:54.640 Men value sex. 1.00
00:03:55.700 So if you look at the investment an unattractive woman gets, like how many dates does she get 1.00
00:03:59.740 taken on?
00:04:00.180 Does she get taken seriously?
00:04:01.340 Do they introduce her to her friends and family?
00:04:03.300 That is comparable to...
00:04:05.320 You know that's a form of investment, right?
00:04:07.200 You know that's investment, isn't it?
00:04:08.620 So guys actually look for that as investment.
00:04:09.920 But we just, but we just, but we just, but we just, but we, but what, what do we say relationships
00:04:13.520 start with in 2022?
00:04:15.080 Six.
00:04:15.440 Yeah.
00:04:15.620 So, so that, that's the precursor.
00:04:17.960 Measuring success in dating by sex.
00:04:21.440 Because if that's what we're measuring, I'm fine.
00:04:23.100 That's a different thing.
00:04:23.580 But I don't measure successful dating by sex.
00:04:25.040 I just think it's delusional to think that like the top men have all the leverage.
00:04:29.440 It's not comparable.
00:04:30.520 The top women do not have as much leverage as the top men. 0.97
00:04:32.960 I think.
00:04:33.420 And if they do, and if they do, give it five years.
00:04:36.320 I'm sorry, like you hit 30, it's not the same.
00:04:38.620 Yeah, but I do think top women get the same reaction as top men and they have the same,
00:04:43.960 and I think more because you know what it is?
00:04:46.140 A top value man will, most top value men that I know of have very silent Instagrams.
00:04:53.000 They are busy.
00:04:54.000 They are CEOs.
00:04:55.140 You don't see them posting up and this, whereas beautiful women, they're in your face all day 1.00
00:04:59.540 every day.
00:04:59.840 So their DMs are insane.
00:05:02.300 Insane.
00:05:02.780 So on a day-to-day basis, without any effort, that woman can have five, six, seven men paying 1.00
00:05:08.140 her, not just going on dates with her, cash up, this, that, and the other.
00:05:11.440 I don't think a top value man has it as easy as a top value woman. 1.00
00:05:15.020 And men flock to top value men.
00:05:16.500 Well, I just think, I think the difference is the top value man is satisfied.
00:05:19.780 They say that eights, nines, and tens are for the streets forever.
00:05:25.880 I've just heard this phrase in Red Pill because if a girl's an eight, she needs a nine or a 1.00
00:05:30.860 ten.
00:05:31.340 If a guy's an eight, he's okay with a six.
00:05:34.500 I know rich guys.
00:05:35.640 He's okay with a six, but you'll cheat with a ten, eight, whatever.
00:05:38.640 Most men will cheat.
00:05:41.100 Most men, if given beautiful models every day, they're going to say yes one day.
00:05:46.260 So an eight will be happy with a six, where the eight, that's a girl, needs a nine or a 1.00
00:05:50.440 ten, so it's a smaller pool that she's going to be satisfied with.
00:05:53.460 I think guys are just a bit more realistic, like long-term with like, they're just content
00:05:58.180 with how things are.
00:06:00.060 Do you pursue a pretty girl the same way you'd pursue an average girl?
00:06:03.060 Would you invest the same?
00:06:04.180 Do they get the same Nathaniel out of you?
00:06:06.740 A pretty girl and an average girl? 1.00
00:06:08.120 Yeah.
00:06:08.640 Um, I probably, are we talking about I'm sexually attracted to both?
00:06:14.060 No.
00:06:14.740 Your one is average.
00:06:15.800 You can take it early.
00:06:16.620 Okay, let's make one a six, one an eight.
00:06:18.980 One's a six.
00:06:19.900 You can't use seven, yeah?
00:06:22.740 All right.
00:06:23.640 One's a six, one's an eight.
00:06:24.800 The six, I don't really see me checking for the six, I'll be honest.
00:06:28.340 Thank you.
00:06:29.260 The eight.
00:06:30.080 But there's, I'll say this, yeah, because there's makeup.
00:06:32.840 Yeah, I feel like money is the man's makeup.
00:06:34.280 Because there's makeup, a lot of women can look like, I can think about three different 1.00
00:06:37.860 kind of women that all women can look like. 1.00
00:06:39.940 If they, if they had the right makeup.
00:06:41.240 Let's say at her peak, she's six. 0.54
00:06:42.760 At the end of the day, if we're talking about like, you know, in the morning, at her peak,
00:06:46.000 she's six.
00:06:46.860 That's, ah, boy.
00:06:48.200 Yeah.
00:06:48.440 Listen, I've seen, I've seen some serious transformations.
00:06:53.340 So if at your best, you're six, then boy, it's mad.
00:06:57.560 Yeah, because I feel like there's a lot of talk about high value men, but do you know
00:07:00.700 what it's like with 18, 19 year old, like pretty girls getting thrown out in private 1.00
00:07:05.000 jets?
00:07:05.600 And so look how men treat high value or beautiful women.
00:07:09.220 They drop all the rules for beautiful women. 1.00
00:07:11.800 And the same applies for high value men, but they drop every rule for a beautiful girl.
00:07:15.920 So are you arguing that beautiful women have the same leverage that high value men have?
00:07:20.660 Is that, is that, is that what you're arguing?
00:07:21.720 If not more.
00:07:23.140 No, no, no.
00:07:24.060 I think that's, I think that's completely wrong.
00:07:26.480 That's just, because what, because what percent of women are beautiful? 1.00
00:07:31.060 Like, I'm saying, no, there's, there's a new girl turning 22 every day.
00:07:35.600 High value men are rare and women, women, they age out at like 28. 0.99
00:07:39.540 It was rare, but now we've got an Instagram, which means a rich guy in Nigeria can send 0.89
00:07:45.500 you millions.
00:07:46.100 A rich guy in Qatar can send you millions.
00:07:48.160 We have polarized it so that high value men who aren't bait or aren't big on social media
00:07:53.860 are limited to the women around them.
00:07:56.480 Whereas beautiful women are exposed to the world around them.
00:08:00.140 Right, right.
00:08:00.400 So they might get sex from him, but she's not the main chick. 1.00
00:08:03.400 Yeah.
00:08:03.620 But she's not, she's not the main.
00:08:04.960 But we established that you can be side chick even if you're average.
00:08:08.320 You can be a side chick with sharing.
00:08:10.100 You're right.
00:08:10.400 You're right.
00:08:10.960 You're sharing even if you're a nobody.
00:08:12.980 But that's what I'm saying.
00:08:13.900 But at least you're sharing with a billionaire.
00:08:14.680 But that man still has the leverage because he gets to pick who gets commitment.
00:08:18.860 That's why he has the leverage.
00:08:19.900 Her leverage is in the fact that she doesn't want commitment from him.
00:08:22.540 She wants lifestyle from you right now. 1.00
00:08:24.420 So her leverage is in the fact that I get lifestyle.
00:08:26.300 I think we're talking about two different things.
00:08:28.520 So I'm talking about women that want a ring and men, men and men that want sex. 0.97
00:08:35.500 Okay.
00:08:36.120 Okay.
00:08:36.540 So if you're, okay, if we're measuring it by investment and sex, then.
00:08:40.720 But can pretty girls get money? 1.00
00:08:42.640 Yeah.
00:08:43.180 Yeah.
00:08:43.660 Can they get lifestyle? 0.94
00:08:45.000 Yeah.
00:08:45.380 But how long, it's about, it's about the maintenance.
00:08:47.760 How long can, how long can they keep that up?
00:08:49.540 If they get pregnant, they have these, they have these rules that they don't want to get cheated 0.99
00:08:52.700 on and, you know, they want to be, they want to keep this up and,
00:08:56.140 and there's no one else and they want that high value man.
00:08:58.920 How long do you reckon, uh, women have that, that, um, leverage for? 1.00
00:09:03.140 If she's pregnant forever. 0.98
00:09:04.360 If she's not pregnant forever. 0.99
00:09:06.060 Not forever.
00:09:06.600 There's nothing else that's saying it's forever.
00:09:07.980 For as long as the baby's alive.
00:09:09.400 Baby, yeah.
00:09:09.800 For as long as the baby's alive.
00:09:11.420 For as long as the baby's alive.
00:09:12.420 No, what?
00:09:12.780 Wait, a faithful, a faithful, high value man.
00:09:15.200 No, no, no.
00:09:15.460 I don't know about the faithful, no, no, no, no.
00:09:16.780 You're saying, you're saying a baby mama?
00:09:18.320 No.
00:09:19.900 Stop it.
00:09:21.320 Stop it.
00:09:21.900 But she gets that leverage because she gets that leverage. 1.00
00:09:24.260 It's not that a case of that's a good life, but she gets that leverage for as long as
00:09:27.940 she has that child.
00:09:28.940 Is that all women want, just not to work? 1.00
00:09:30.900 I think so.
00:09:31.840 I think that's what all people want in general.
00:09:33.780 Okay, you want to work?
00:09:34.780 No, they want to work, but they want a man that can make a life that if she didn't work, 1.00
00:09:38.420 it'd be all right.
00:09:39.280 Yeah, basically.
00:09:40.060 I think that's a good way to describe it.
00:09:41.480 They want the best of everything.
00:09:44.020 Yeah, so if you tell them that I don't want you to work, you're, you're controlling them
00:09:48.260 or you're oppressing them.
00:09:49.140 We want to work.
00:09:49.560 Or you're the patriarchy, but if you say, look, if you want to work, it's cool.
00:09:53.980 If you want to work, that's cool as well.
00:09:55.180 We're good for money.
00:09:56.120 Then it's a different conversation.
00:09:57.140 Yeah.