JustPearlyThings - June 12, 2023


Delusional Feminist Contradicts Herself


Episode Stats


Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

173.13

Word count

1,631

Sentence count

137

Harmful content

Misogyny

21

sentences flagged

Hate speech

6

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Summary

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In this episode, we talk about why we should believe women more than men and why we shouldn't. We also talk about the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard case and why feminism is a hate group and why women should be believed.

Transcript

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Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 Is a social group that advocates and practices hostility, hatred, or violence towards members of another group, like of race or gender or whatever.
00:00:09.440 Honestly, I didn't quite hear you all the way.
00:00:11.380 Okay, okay.
00:00:12.180 A hate group is a social group that advocates and practices hatred, hostility, or violence towards members of a race, ethnicity, nation, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or any designated sector of society.
00:00:26.900 Right, and you're saying that feminism falls under that category of a hate group. 1.00
00:00:32.300 Yeah.
00:00:33.220 I disagree.
00:00:34.620 Tell me why.
00:00:36.060 I disagree because I think feminism means something to each person individually. 1.00
00:00:43.300 Okay.
00:00:43.560 And so you're sort of generalizing a few people into one group.
00:00:49.440 And that's not necessarily, like, why I would be a feminist or why, like, people in other countries would be a feminist.
00:00:56.620 So that's why I would disagree.
00:00:59.800 So the reason that I think feminism is a hate group is because oftentimes the things that they advocate for are at the cost of men. 0.99
00:01:07.120 So I think Johnny Depp and Amber Heard is a perfect example where about five years ago the idea was believe all women.
00:01:13.460 And I would say that that was feminism. 1.00
00:01:17.740 That was a feminist movement, ideology, believe all women. 1.00
00:01:21.980 And now we're seeing the effects of that five years later because a man with money, power, and privilege had his reputation destroyed.
00:01:29.160 What happens to the average man?
00:01:31.080 Yeah, so I guess that's sort of something that I was thinking about, too, with this whole believe all women because I don't think that it's not necessarily something that I even believe.
00:01:44.220 Like, during that time, believe all women.
00:01:46.340 I think if you're a true feminist, you would take a look at each story individually and see what you have to think from that. 1.00
00:01:53.840 So I can't identify with someone who said, I believe all women because I don't believe anyone, like, without. 1.00
00:02:02.340 There's some crazy, there's some crazy, like, girls out there, just like there's crazy guys. 0.99
00:02:06.980 But I will say that there, there, people should believe women more, like, for even just in my own experience being harassed at school.
00:02:19.120 I, I didn't have anyone sticking up for me or for my rights.
00:02:23.880 In fact, actually, I was sexually harassed in a STEM class, a science class.
00:02:29.120 I was one out of two girls in that class.
00:02:31.500 And because I was harassed, I had to move my class.
00:02:36.040 So I didn't have a chance to take a science class for that reason.
00:02:40.980 And so, to me, it's like, well, why didn't anyone believe me?
00:02:45.540 But also, the bell's right now.
00:02:48.320 So I don't know your specific situation, but I, but, but to me, that's at the expense of men.
00:02:55.160 Because if you're saying we should believe women more than men, a lot of the accusations are against men.
00:02:59.760 But in a very, not to cut you off, but in a very real way.
00:03:04.340 Because, like, no one believed me, so it was at my expense.
00:03:08.680 So what do you have to say about that?
00:03:10.280 About that being at your expense.
00:03:11.400 I don't know the situation.
00:03:12.740 I don't know what happened.
00:03:13.880 Because I, because I don't, I don't know you.
00:03:15.640 So I can't just believe a story that I don't, I don't know.
00:03:18.860 Yeah, and I guess that's fair.
00:03:20.480 I'm just a person looking at you, telling, like, an experience that happened to me in my life.
00:03:24.800 I was in eighth grade, and I was in between two desks, and a guy, like, got himself stuck in between the desk, and was humping me.
00:03:35.600 And because of that, I didn't feel safe in the class.
00:03:38.680 And I told the administration, and I had to change the class.
00:03:43.600 Because, and it was something everybody saw.
00:03:46.820 Well, they should have, like, they should have taken you into account in that situation.
00:03:50.500 Like, they, like, he should have got in trouble.
00:03:51.920 I agree with you.
00:03:52.620 But it's at my expense.
00:03:54.400 It's at your expense?
00:03:55.980 It's at my expense.
00:03:56.700 Right, right.
00:03:57.640 But what I'm saying is, like, I don't, I don't think.
00:04:00.240 I'm a feminist. 1.00
00:04:00.780 But I don't think women should be able to just be believed without evidence.
00:04:05.260 So, to me, like, I shouldn't believe women more than men. 0.87
00:04:08.480 Because, one, that's not equality.
00:04:10.480 And, two, it's at the expense of men.
00:04:13.120 Because you're talking about this case, right?
00:04:15.280 Where you were at the expense.
00:04:16.360 But I've seen cases where men go to jail for crimes that they didn't do.
00:04:19.440 Because a woman accused them of great.
00:04:20.960 I say great, but I can't say the R word on YouTube.
00:04:24.580 So.
00:04:25.180 No?
00:04:25.520 Do you understand?
00:04:26.620 Why is that?
00:04:27.980 It's the algorithm.
00:04:29.300 Oh, okay.
00:04:29.960 You can't, like, it up.
00:04:31.880 So, like, there's men that lose their entire careers off of a woman's accusation.
00:04:35.960 It's just like we've seen in Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.
00:04:39.580 Yeah, but in the end, now you can see, like, the media basically vilified her. 0.91
00:04:44.320 And there's no coming back for her.
00:04:46.460 And at the end of the day, like, both of them have, like, mental illness, addiction.
00:04:50.420 But after vilifying him for five years and costing him Pirates of the Caribbean, he's fine.
00:04:57.700 He's a millionaire.
00:04:58.640 He's fine.
00:04:59.240 Do you see this lack of empathy for men?
00:05:02.300 She just glossed over the fact that this man lost his livelihood for five years.
00:05:07.900 She said he'll be fine.
00:05:09.660 What?
00:05:10.920 You think he's fine?
00:05:12.640 That took away his livelihood.
00:05:14.540 But everyone is supporting him at the end of the day now.
00:05:17.420 Five years later, people looked at him like he was a grapist for years.
00:05:24.040 I honestly, I didn't even hear about the article until the case.
00:05:31.380 No, the trial.
00:05:33.820 In the U.S., I'm telling you, it was huge.
00:05:36.000 He lost.
00:05:36.480 He was in the Pirates.
00:05:37.120 You know what Pirates of the Caribbean is?
00:05:38.780 Of course.
00:05:39.440 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:39.840 So he lost.
00:05:40.740 Like, that was his movie.
00:05:42.240 And they took him out of it because of her accusations.
00:05:45.500 Because of the idea we should believe women over men. 0.98
00:05:50.840 I think that's probably more a problem with the media and the fact that the media tries
00:05:57.280 to kind of jump onto certain, like, trends, especially social trends.
00:06:02.140 And the fact that Believe All Women was something that was picking up speed.
00:06:07.520 I think the media is trying to make money always.
00:06:11.060 Right.
00:06:11.340 And so they have to appeal to women.
00:06:14.020 And so Believe All Women, it makes sense.
00:06:16.880 Well, what I'm saying...
00:06:17.660 I'm just saying I believe that, but that's just how the world works.
00:06:20.140 Well, you kind of do, because even before you said we should believe women over men.
00:06:24.060 I never said that.
00:06:24.860 I have it on camera.
00:06:26.140 You did.
00:06:26.820 You said we should believe women more than men. 0.59
00:06:29.560 I never said that, but...
00:06:31.760 Yes, you did.
00:06:32.480 I will say that people should believe women more.
00:06:39.060 Well, I didn't phrase it the correct way, but I would say that I don't think that you
00:06:43.480 should believe men over the expense of women in the terms of, like... 0.92
00:06:48.800 I mean, you say, like, you don't know my personal case, but, like, the world is made out of
00:06:53.060 individual cases.
00:06:54.520 The world isn't, like, a big generalized group that you can say, like, you know, believe
00:06:58.580 all women.
00:06:59.180 Like, if you're a real person in a day-to-day life, like, you don't generally believe all
00:07:03.880 of something.
00:07:04.640 Like, you have your own personal beliefs from the world that you see around you.
00:07:08.440 Right, but I'm talking about a movement.
00:07:11.660 So I'm talking about feminism as a movement. 0.95
00:07:14.700 And that was a movement that feminism pushed. 1.00
00:07:18.700 But who is, like, feminism to you? 1.00
00:07:21.260 Like, there's not, like, a head of the feminist community. 1.00
00:07:24.060 There's not, like...
00:07:25.500 Like, if you want to look at a real feminist, you could look at Malala Yousavasi, who was 1.00
00:07:30.980 shot in the head by the Taliban.
00:07:32.520 And she is arguably the leader of feminism, I would say, today. 1.00
00:07:36.340 Um, and that's an actual hate group.
00:07:39.800 I mean, I think we would agree that, like, the Taliban is bad, like, all together. 0.77
00:07:46.100 Yes, I would, that...
00:07:47.880 Yeah, but I'm saying that that's someone who is arguably, like, the head of the feminist 1.00
00:07:53.140 movement.
00:07:53.880 Right, but what I'm talking about is that feminism advocates for things at the cost of men. 1.00
00:07:58.680 And I'm saying, even in this conversation, like, you even said yourself you should believe
00:08:03.100 women over men. 0.91
00:08:04.100 And it's, like, that ideology is what I'm talking about.
00:08:07.040 I don't remember saying believe, um, believe, uh, women over men.
00:08:12.060 I, I personally don't really believe that.
00:08:14.940 But I'm also curious about, like, for example, in terms of, like, collecting evidence, how
00:08:20.420 should, how should I be believed?
00:08:24.040 Like, if something were to happen to me, how should I be believed?
00:08:28.160 Like, what kind of evidence are you looking for, exactly?
00:08:32.320 What evidence?
00:08:33.560 Right.
00:08:34.240 Um, well, I think it's innocent until proven guilty.
00:08:37.320 Yeah, but...
00:08:37.800 So, so, like...
00:08:39.000 In terms of sexual harassment or sexual assault, it's pretty hard to prove when that has happened
00:08:45.960 to you, so I think that if you're going to say, like, feminism is a hate group, you should
00:08:51.200 also have, like, maybe some idea about how to solve some of the issues for women that, 1.00
00:08:58.100 you know, women particularly do face, like, sexual harassment or sexual violence.
00:09:03.920 I think women are the number one victims of sexual violence all over the world. 0.88
00:09:08.560 I'm trying to tread carefully.
00:09:10.760 If, if somebody is going around graping women, right, he, he either...
00:09:16.320 People have patterns of behavior, so if you don't have the evidence, it will be likely
00:09:21.480 that someone in the future will also come forward and have the same...