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- April 16, 2023
Discussion on Men Victimization
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Length
8 minutes
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Word Count
2,074
Sentence Count
1
Misogynist Sentences
11
Hate Speech Sentences
7
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totally agree with what you guys are saying when with the younger guys but
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something that I've personally noticed out on the street is that the older guys
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that now have families and have children they're the ones you see during the day
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pushing the buggies and with two free kids on the street so where roles are
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reversed maybe now the men are tired spending all day with the kids and then
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during the night when the wife comes home or they're both both of them at home
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they're like you know what I'm really tired I just don't want to have any sex
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the men that's what I that's what I'm seeing on the streets maybe
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the roles have been reversed where usually would be the woman I gotta I
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gotta vehemently disagree with sex just after even speaking to like divorce
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attorneys like a common complaint is that men they have two kids and then the wife
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stops sleeping with them mm-hmm and I've talked to like different attorneys in the
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US because I'm doing a documentary on the court system here and I've talked to
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different divorce attorneys in the US and the UK and it's the same problem that
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sounds more realistic because like the women are like my body's not the same he
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probably doesn't see me the same and they just let go but guys know they
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actually they want that they want to sleep with you after you've had kids
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because you're the person that they married and all those things but I think
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women just think because I've given him kids he's not gonna want anything else do
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you think that's unfair to man hundred percent yeah hundred percent because
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at the end of the day men need it more you know yeah yeah yeah what do you guys
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think why are so many more men sexless so like I've been coaching this stuff now
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for ten years and I see a lot of guys they go and try to get better with this
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stuff a lot of the pickup artists teachings are misleading and they don't
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work and then they just fall into some kind of victim ideology right so they
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think okay I'm gonna just fall into red pill and resent women and hate women
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and women are the enemy or they think well I don't look like a model so that's
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why I can't get girls like the whole black pill stuff or they go to MGTOW and
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they say I'm not gonna even bother dating and a lot of guys are already
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self-conscious about their height or about how old they are about how much money
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they have and we were talking before the show like we both coached a lot of
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guys guys come in to interactions just assuming like they're not good
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enough for whatever reasons and then it becomes a self-fulfilling
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prophecy because I have a negative mindset and they go down this kind of
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negative spiral and then they give up because they don't have any other
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options there's no like light at the end of the tunnel and they try to do
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these things and there's also this unrealistic standard like on Instagram
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and stuff like that where you just see people like this is all perfect and
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this and that and so guys are trying to compare themselves to that and
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they're like well this isn't for me so a lot of guys would just be become
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more and more on the sidelines just spectating other guys right and so
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it's kind of like feast or famine like once I teach you how to how to get a
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proper mindset and do all the system properly what mindset do you teach them
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I tell them to think that they're at a hundred out of a hundred at all times
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and there's a brick wall between them and the external things that happen so if
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they get rejected or they get insulted anything like that their value stays at
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a hundred out of a hundred because they're driving it from internally they're
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not letting people's reactions and people's responses define their worth and
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then also I tell them to assume they got the girl before they go approach like in
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public and that makes a huge huge difference like he was saying he focuses
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really heavily on the mindset that's like most of the battle right there's
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still tons of strategic elements but if the guy is thinking that he's not good
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enough and he's trying to win the girl over he's already coming at it from the
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wrong angle and girls pick up on that right away and they think okay this guy is
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low value because he thinks that I'm way above him so I'm not I don't teach guys to
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think they're better than the girls just think they're good enough for any girl and
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still keep working on themselves and better themselves as much as
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possible but that's an empowering message and we usually get clients that
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are that are virgins or divorcees or anything like that we get them late like
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in the first week and you saw on the on the boot camp like a lot of those guys
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are never taking girls home before and part of it is getting them to believe in
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themselves but the other part of it is giving them the proper strategy to know
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how to navigate through the whole system because there can be bottlenecks any
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step of the way like guys are using random tinder pictures they're not gonna get
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many matches if they get a match they're gonna send wrong messages if they get a
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phone number they're gonna send the wrong text and so it's very hard for
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them to make it through the whole process and they get deflated and then
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they just give up and then they just go to these other side movements and they
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just all like sit on these forums and watch these creators that just victimize
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everyone I think that's very sad because a lot of these guys just need
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proper coaching like you saw like a lot of the a lot of clients that I get bounce
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from coach to coach and they didn't get anywhere but they weren't being given
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the proper mindset the proper system and then when you give them that the
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results are just almost instant what do you think starts the problem though so
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it's like if they went to these forums or to these YouTube channels or whatever
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like something had to start it where it's different today than it was 50 years
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ago what do you think that is I think you know just with with the advent of of
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social media and stuff like that and there's there's just so much like like
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this tinder statistics right it's like if guys aren't using professional
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pictures at the first thing we do when a guy signs up for my my week programs we get
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in professional pictures and then Liz and some other girls on the team pick the top
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five and then we apply face app so they're going from like average photos
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to pro photos to the best five pro photos to the face app versions and now
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they're getting like a night and day difference in the quantity and quality of
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matches whereas you know before they might have just put up whatever pictures
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didn't get the result and then they see their friend maybe like you know one of
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their cool guy friends he's getting a lot of girls but they don't know how to
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navigate that properly but then when they look on social media they see you know
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all these perfect looking people and they say well I'm not perfect looking right
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and I have these flaws and people have these different handicaps they place on
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themselves where they are cognizant of all these different flaws they have and
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then they think that that makes them not good enough for the girls and then that
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causes the rejection and that like reinforces the belief and then it just
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continues in a cycle right and people are you know not many people are called
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approaching anyways like even even in your generation stuff like that no but it's
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gotten even less common now much less and with COVID and stuff like this you
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know not many people were going out and I think that even once like night venues
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and stuff reopened not as many people go out anymore and a lot of clients I work
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with their ego is like very tied to approaching a female in public so if that
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girl rejects them they feel horrible about themselves and it's it's tough for
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them to go back in and try again and then if that rejection happens again it keeps
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it's like a it's like a negative momentum and then they they just usually
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give up so my job is to to show them like look you you can totally do this and
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show them real tangible results and that starts a positive momentum and then they
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end up with a place of options and they can pick the best one for the girlfriend
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or something like this what do you what do you think about the men that say
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they're afraid to approach because of the me too movement I mean that's a very
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real thing like I live in Brazil that stuff's not really going on over there yet but in
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the Western nations it's it's a really bad thing I just did a video on my channel
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about like in Scotland if you're talking about like a sexual conquest and a woman
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overhears you can be sent to jail you can be sent to jail yeah it's like a new
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thing why yeah and in England too like I correct me if I'm wrong but like if you
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like cat call girl on the street you can get in trouble now right I'm pretty sure
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that depends like I'll have to be something like I don't know it depends they
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won't arrest you it's not an arrestable offense no it does it does it says a lit
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this legislation well this legislation wait this leg this legislation will
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criminal criminalize acts including cat calling and making offensive gestures
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and walking too closely behind someone at night yes like the Scotland thing it's if
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you brush up against someone and I've been in tons of nightclubs right so I spent a
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lot of my time in my life for better or worse but you know you inadvertently
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you're gonna be brushing up against people when you're packed in into a club
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and that's I can put you in jail now in Scotland if you brush up against someone
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so what do you say to guys that are in countries with laws like that do you tell
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them not to approach or what's your what's your solution as a dating coach I
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mean if they I tell them to move if they can I mean that's pretty extreme but like
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in Australia for instance like they have a new thing where women can change
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their mind about consent during sex and that's you know I have Australian
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clients and they're just terrified they don't even want to get in a
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sexual situation because there's no one there to witness that so it's just he
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said she said right and they're gonna take the side of the girl in a lot of
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the cases I'm not saying that like bad stuff doesn't happen but it makes guys
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very apprehensive same with the Scotland stuff guys were already afraid to go
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to approach and now they don't want to have legal trouble right so as these
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countries and what they're trying to do is combat harassment of women these are
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real problems but when they impose these very strict kind of lockdown measures
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then it turns men away from speaking and leads to statistics as many of you know
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