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- August 01, 2023
Doctor Proves That Ab0rt10n Is Birth Control
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8 minutes
Words per Minute
191.3985
Word Count
1,703
Sentence Count
2
Misogynist Sentences
18
Hate Speech Sentences
9
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is where I stand what do you say because they'll always bring up what about the
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11 year old girl that was raped should she be allowed to get an abortion the
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11 year old that just her dad incest her yeah so it's a it's a give me like the
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worst sob story they'd like give me the the worst sob story we can come up with
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and that is the example we will give pro-life okay yeah it's yeah I mean you
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know these these cases as we know are extremely rare but they happen so what
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I what I often say is you know places like Florida keep statistics on this
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about why do abortions happen and the number for rape in total is like I think
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it was 0.14 percent so again you know one about one in 700 I think it was and the
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number of those that will be for 11 year old children is going to be
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significantly lower still so it's a it's a very rare situation but it does
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happen and that 11 year old girl in that situation you know is is a victim is
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infinitely valuable and she deserves to have you know the utmost protection and
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support in that situation so
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what I would say is first and foremost there's a physical health question which
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is that if the child literally cannot give birth to you know without significantly
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impairing their health abortion is always going to be legal so there's there
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shouldn't be any worry about the physical health of the child because if
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her physical health is really significantly threatened abortion will be
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legal and no one is campaigning to prevent her from being having access to
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that so the question is fundamentally therefore about the psychological impact
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now what I think is in the minds often of people who ask this question many
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people ask it from a good place you know they they really feel sorry for a girl in
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this situation and think I just can't bring myself to be pro-life in that
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situation for other people it's like a distraction right it's like let's think
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of the worst most rare possible situation and use that to argue for abortion for
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any reason but let's let's assume there's a sincere person asking this there's a
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there's a concern about her psychological well-being but what we often get into the
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habit of thinking is if she just has an abortion it solves the problem she
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doesn't have to go through this psychologically torturous situation of you
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know being pregnant and then giving to a birth as an 11 year old child and so on
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we can just have an abortion and get rid of all of that the problem with that
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intuition and that line of thinking is that that's just not reality there is no
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world in which you can save a girl who has been in this situation from
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significant mental trauma she has been the victim of incest usually and certainly the
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victim of rape at 11 years old there is no solution in the world that is going to
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just clear that up and make things better so the question is not how can we just
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eliminate that suffering because that's just crazy and if you tell an 11 year old
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girl we can get rid of the problem you're lying to her and you're betraying her the
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question is what is the solution that is going to give her the least suffering and
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that is going to help her the most and when you are frame it that way and you're
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actually realistic about the alternatives that we can give to a woman or a girl in
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this horrendous situation it's far less obvious that abortion is the answer as I
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said we know that abortion has significant mental health problems on
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average for a woman who chooses it compared to a woman who continues an
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unwanted pregnancy we know that girls teenagers or even you know preteens who
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have abortions are even higher risk for mental health problems as a result of
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their abortion having an abortion at 14 years old or even earlier is a huge
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trauma that has significant mental health problems for a girl or a teenager in that
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situation so all that to say there's no easy way out but actually the evidence
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suggests that an abortion will make things worse than they already are there's
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no way we can magically make things better but abortion is going to make things
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worse and so yes the woman is going to have this trauma that the girl is going
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to have this trauma we have to help her through that we have to seek justice for
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the perpetrator but we're just lying if we pretend that there's an easy way out
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that's going to spare her that trauma there isn't think about it this way a
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woman who is the victim of rape or the victim of incest who doesn't get
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pregnant how is she going to feel and what can we do for her well abortion isn't on
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the table because she's not pregnant but the woman is the girl the girl is still
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experiencing this profound trauma and grief and suffering from what she's been
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through it's clear when you think about it that way that abortion is not the
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solution the problem is the rape it's not the pregnancy the problem is the
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trauma that she's had because she has been a victim of rape or incest at a very
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young age in particular and that makes him all the more obvious I think that
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abortion is not the solution because pregnancy is not the fundamental problem
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when you finally you know do look at women in this situation and you ask them
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what what helped there's actually a good book and this is the last thing I'll say
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because it's very easy to sit here with me as a guy talking who's never been
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through this never will be through that we never will go through this and think
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how could he really know how could he possibly know and how could he you know
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elaborate and pontificate about about what a woman or girl would actually think in this
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there's a book called victims and victors by an author called a researcher called
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david ridden which actually asks those women themselves these girls and women who
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have been the victim of incest or rape and it followed them through and about half
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of them had an abortion actually less than half of them had an abortion most of
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them actually kept the baby and so he then asked the women or the girls how
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do you feel about the abortion how do you feel about keeping the baby now what he
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found was that when he actually let these women and girls speak for
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themselves you actually didn't get a clear pro-abortion or pro-choice message
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yes a lot of them who had abortion said it was the right choice but many of them
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said it was the wrong choice they said abortion took away the only thing that
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could have given me healing in that situation they said the one thing that gave me
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hope or light at the end of the tunnel was that life and abortion took that
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away the only thing abortion did was it added a second trauma to the victim and
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it added a second victim to the crime whereas by contrast the women who kept
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the baby in that situation every single one said it was the right decision and it
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was the number one thing that helped me to heal from that trauma so again you know
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the main thing I say to people on this question is you don't have to listen to me
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and I get it if you don't want to but listen to the women who have actually
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experienced that and I guarantee you when you listen to their voices and you
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don't exploit their stories their answers will actually point much more towards
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life as part of the solution than it will towards abortion what do you say when
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they come at you and say but there's so many kids in foster care don't you care
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about the kids in foster care so so there's a lot of things to say about that the
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the first is that abortion actually hasn't solved that problem at all when you look
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at the number of unwanted pregnancies and unwanted children that number has not fallen
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since abortion was legalized as just one example of this they said you know in the 1960s
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and 70s if we legalize abortion there'll be no more problem of single motherhood because
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they said sorry I know the numbers on this right like anyone knows the number like yeah if you think
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that single motherhood has been like has fallen since abortion right lies like you're living in a
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dream world yeah but it was supposed to be the solution because you know if a woman
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gets pregnant out of wedlock right without a without the guy around she can just have an
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abortion but we know that it's got way way more of an issue since then those are the supposedly
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unwanted children that's like a measure of unwanted children at least traditionally and that got far
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worse of a problem after abortion was legalized and so when you look at the statistics on child abuse
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children in care all of these things it's very far from obvious that any of them have got better
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since abortion was legalized now there's a whole load of other things you could say you could point
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out the fact that it's almost impossible to adopt a newborn baby any baby you know if you're thinking
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about abortion and you decide to give birth to the baby instead or even if you're forced to give birth
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to the baby instead that baby will be adopted in a heartbeat there will be 10 couples waiting
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every single baby in that situation
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