JustPearlyThings - March 30, 2023


How Fat Shaming Saved Her Friend's Life


Episode Stats


Length

8 minutes

Words per minute

171.36415

Word count

1,520

Sentence count

24

Harmful content

Misogyny

19

sentences flagged

Hate speech

14

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss body positivity in regards to women and our opinions on it. We have a special guest, Lizzo, join us to talk about her struggles with weight gain and how she deals with it.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 To I think like women are just fat today 1.00
00:00:15.240 Okay, big butt with a small waist that's not 1.00
00:00:21.180 But this one here she's got a great shape she's she's got big butt small waist naturally 1.00
00:00:26.520 Is it depends on your state? You wouldn't say she's fat though, so
00:00:32.360 But I mean most women like to be bigger now nowadays rather than deem skinny 1.00
00:00:38.120 Maybe they pretend they're happy because there's body positivity. I'm happy big girl's life
00:00:48.200 Okay
00:00:50.200 Let me let me she's making money 1.00
00:00:52.200 One to ten what do you rank Lizzo one to ten ten?
00:00:56.040 Ah, based on
00:01:00.040 Okay
00:01:06.280 Do you really think she's cries on instagram why oh, I don't know that much about
00:01:10.280 Do you genuinely okay? Do you genuinely think she's happy at like 300 pounds?
00:01:17.720 How could one be happy does she not look happy or no?
00:01:20.920 I think she looks
00:01:22.920 I don't know her personally
00:01:24.920 So I but from what I can see I look she's looks wise. What do you what do you rank?
00:01:30.360 Social media is very deceptive
00:01:32.360 Okay, okay, so so one to ten you would trade your body with hers 0.83
00:01:35.960 Like why do you why let me let me finish let me finish you said she had a good figure yeah 1.00
00:01:57.720 She would be offended if you said she looks like Lizzo
00:01:59.720 Would you be offended if I said you look fat like Lizzo?
00:02:01.720 I hope you would
00:02:02.920 But do you think that's what it's that's like she has a good figure because she's skinny 1.00
00:02:11.400 Who's skinny who's really really skinny? I think women trying to be nice 1.00
00:02:13.960 I would prefer Lizzo than a really skinny skinny woman 1.00
00:02:16.440 Yeah, but you're kind of extreme again
00:02:17.560 No
00:02:17.960 No, but it's the same thing isn't it?
00:02:19.000 You said really skinny
00:02:19.960 Okay, no I would I would take no but I would take no but no boobs 1.00
00:02:25.320 Really?
00:02:25.720 And then over Lizzo
00:02:26.920 Yes
00:02:27.160 No, but Lizzo could if she would really wanted to she couldn't
00:02:30.760 No, I think if she wanted to she'd do it she had those she was on tiktok like on the treadmill 1.00
00:02:35.880 Oh, I don't go on tiktok
00:02:36.920 I don't have tiktok
00:02:38.120 You see a whole different side of Lizzo
00:02:39.640 Oh, that's why then I'm not ready to get tiktok
00:02:41.640 I do have a question
00:02:42.360 You gave her a 10 what's your metric?
00:02:45.080 Because she's confident with it
00:02:47.240 So anybody that's confident
00:02:49.080 I think yeah
00:02:50.120 Women raised with feeling not logic 1.00
00:02:52.760 Yeah, it comes with how you feel
00:02:56.840 That's what I can see
00:02:57.880 I was big and I liked it
00:03:00.120 But I was big small
00:03:01.480 What made you like it?
00:03:02.840 Because I was different and I couldn't I don't go gym
00:03:04.920 I hate gym
00:03:06.120 I hate anything healthy
00:03:07.400 I eat everything not healthy
00:03:09.480 But I liked it then and I like it now
00:03:12.840 And I'm very confident
00:03:15.000 Do you not think there's universal standards of beauty?
00:03:17.800 So when everyone walks into the room where everyone can kind of
00:03:21.560 Okay, when when everyone walks into the room, you don't think everyone has a general
00:03:28.760 Wait blessing can you finish the sentence and then and then you can pause it
00:03:33.160 Perception of who's more beautiful and less beautiful
00:03:38.200 So I meant like for her response
00:03:41.240 Sorry, I don't know these days
00:03:43.720 No, I'm not I'm not talking about these days
00:03:45.480 I'm in general well, but yeah
00:03:48.200 And okay, even even even take us in the room
00:03:50.920 You don't think most of us like they could say who's more beautiful and less beautiful
00:03:55.000 And I'm not I'm not trying to put us against each other. I'm not saying to be rated
00:03:57.960 But like I'm saying like you don't think in general, you know who the pretty friend in your friend group is
00:04:02.920 I think what she's doing
00:04:08.040 Why is it so hard for women to admit that lizzo is not a 10?
00:04:11.560 And why don't we see the same body positivity for men? 0.64
00:04:20.520 It's all about the women's empowerment like women want to feel so empowered 0.80
00:04:25.560 through I guess years under under the patriarchy that anything goes there is
00:04:31.080 There's women can do no wrong in anyone's eyes you can be fat you can be whole you can do this you can slap up 1.00
00:04:37.000 Slap up a guy don't matter as long as you're a woman 1.00
00:04:40.040 Everything you do gets a lie
00:04:43.160 So now you just delude yourselves you just lie to each other
00:04:46.040 At your own detriment because to say someone like lizzo is attractive and healthy and
00:04:50.440 Homegirl said myself like I don't like gym. I don't like to do anything healthy
00:04:54.440 That's someone to run away from straight away
00:04:57.400 But again to say that you might be misogynistic or blah blah blah like anything a woman does nowadays 0.99
00:05:03.480 Yeah, we like even when talking about guys and relationships
00:05:07.720 It's always I feel like it's filled with excuses. Oh, no, he does like you. It's just
00:05:14.280 He does like you, but he's
00:05:16.280 No, he just don't like you. You just need to be straight up about certain things
00:05:21.000 Um, it's a bit harsh telling your friends. I'll uh, you're overweight
00:05:25.240 Nah, that's that's actually a lot easier than saying um, you're ugly, but yeah, definitely
00:05:32.040 You can change your weight. You can't change your if your face looks like like looks like you got smashed in with a baseball bat
00:05:37.480 What do you think tiana? I don't know. I feel like like you said like
00:05:47.000 It's easier to judge ones like to judge yourself
00:05:50.040 and to judge someone else because then you're kind of like
00:05:52.760 You're projecting what you view as beauty onto somebody else
00:05:57.160 Which isn't really important. I don't know. I feel like it's very uncomfortable place to sit in
00:06:01.640 You don't think there's subjective standards of beauty. No, I do believe in them. Okay. I do think that like
00:06:07.800 A lot of models are really tall. They're very thin
00:06:12.360 It depends where you are but like the certain metrics that we can use or even if we take like modeling out of it
00:06:17.240 Like there's certain girls that men find more attractive
00:06:20.520 Because it's not always necessarily the models. You know what I mean?
00:06:23.400 Like there's just some girls that are like 1.00
00:06:26.440 I think we know I feel like
00:06:29.000 There's an unspoken rule like I do think like we know who the pretty friend is
00:06:33.000 but then why the girls try and take out the 1.00
00:06:35.240 The general view and try and make it based on the individual because you'd be like for me or this that when generally speaking
00:06:42.360 You know whether someone's attractive or not
00:06:44.120 So why do you feel like why do women take out the the more objective view and try to make it as subjective as possible? 1.00
00:06:49.960 I think maybe I'm just gonna go for what I think very it's a very feminine to be 0.95
00:06:57.080 empathetic and maybe compassionate and
00:07:00.680 Being a hundred percent direct and honest and
00:07:04.040 Like straight slaying down the facts is a very masculine trait
00:07:07.240 So i'm not going to go to these two girls and tell them that they look a certain way
00:07:11.400 I'm not going to rate them objectively from my perspective because I just like to what end?
00:07:15.080 What does that bring either one of us here you asked the question someone asked you a question though?
00:07:19.240 So why would you lie?
00:07:20.760 I'm not gonna lie, but I just feel like okay after the show
00:07:31.240 If you say that it's very masculine to just
00:07:34.200 uh, just you know give a very just a fact
00:07:37.160 Yeah, and then say it's feminine to be empathetic you can you can you know kindly say to somebody the truth 0.99
00:07:43.800 I've done it so many times. I think there's a friend's ugly
00:07:47.560 No, I'm talking about like if their character is ugly
00:07:51.320 If they are overweight, we're not asking about character
00:07:53.560 Look straight at your face. I know but okay if we're talking about weight
00:07:57.080 I did have a friend who's having difficulty putting up having a child and I told her it's because you're fat
00:08:03.000 And I'm her closest friend and she took it and she but because of I
00:08:08.120 I'm not just some stranger like saying yeah, you're fine. Yeah, go girl and stuff. I apologize
00:08:13.000 But um, I I told her no, it's because you're fat
00:08:16.280 And you have to take responsibility. I as a friend i'm not going to sit here like I have my own life and my time
00:08:21.800 I'm giving it to you
00:08:22.920 If you're going to sit there telling me the whole the same circular argument
00:08:26.360 That's actually disrespectful to me
00:08:27.960 Like if you're if you really genuinely want to get pregnant sort your diet out and now guess what she's doing great 0.99
00:08:35.160 That's it. So she's better looking
00:08:36.680 You know, I was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform
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