Male Feminist Tries Mansplaining Pearl
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In this episode, we discuss the gender pay gap, the patriarchy, and why women should be paid the same as men in the workplace. We also discuss why women don t want to be engineers and why they don't want to work in advertising.
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society that has stood that stood the testament of time has ever been ruled by women i've got no
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idea none probably none there's a heron tribe that were female dominated yeah which one yes
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i don't know but they were there's articles about it in the new york times that have stood the test
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of time that's what does that's time now yeah yeah there's exceptions yes there's exceptions
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but not necessarily no no i agree with you interesting you know women are more likely to
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wage war wait yeah so women are more likely to start wars like when women are in power you can
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just look it up well no but women make better ceos especially in companies when in power
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women of power do better in business situations because they're a little bit more empathetic and
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copacetic and they're able to manage so that you think more women you think more women would be
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part of the one percent not necessarily because we live in a patriarchal society you think it's
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because of the patriarchy oh of course 100 okay why there's nothing stopping me if i want to be
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a ceo um no there is because you're in a picture it's yeah historically the patriarchal society of
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course men are men and they're like what does that have to do with me today i was born like i was born
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in 1996. oh my gosh i hate when men try to explain that i am oppressed take your white night for your
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girlfriend okay respectfully and you know you seem like a nice person nothing personal but like
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take your white night ass and do that for your girlfriend take that away from here if your
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girlfriend wants to believe she's oppressed and this girl didn't even really seem like she felt
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oppressed but like whoever whoever you're talking to or whoever you're doing this for
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go take that there because here or we have winner mentality we have we can do it mentality
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exactly yeah yeah no so i'm saying like no yeah if anything i think it's easier to be a woman and
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at most jobs like i would say i've been given better treatment because i'm a woman oh yeah in europe or
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in the u.s both that's incorrect you're telling you're telling me that's incorrect yes okay yes being
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a a man who's in the u.s and has been in the industry for over 20 years what what and what
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industry quality i've been in engineering and in advertising okay okay but women don't want to be
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engineer actually they do they're the whole thing to come yeah no no they don't because they don't
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enroll to be engineers in college if we wanted to be engineers not enrolled they're actually not
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nurtured to be into stem and they're not given the opportunity to be in stem but then why when you
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look at the countries that have more opportunity to do what we want to do so like like scandinavian
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countries versus like countries in the middle east where women have less rights and it's pretty
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equal like the pay gap it increases it doesn't decrease so when women have more choice the pay
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gap increases you can't necessarily say there's a direct correlation between the two right correlation
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is not causation no i understand that but i'm asking why is that that's a good question i'm not
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a researcher on that but i'm not saying that you can directly tie the two together right i would say
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women like even just from anecdotal experience like men are men are more likely to help you when you're
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a woman i've never got what i wanted yeah i never have not gone for a job and not got it yeah anecdotally
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what i'm saying and if and if i'm looking at data that supports it like that's how i'm inclined to
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believe what i believe so i'm curious so i'm saying like why do you believe what you believe
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because research shows and research from what i believe is peer-to-peer evaluated especially look at
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okay what what what research i'm just curious oh there's plenty of research if you look at anything
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from like which one this insider and new york times and new yorker a lot of them support the fact that
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women don't have as much opportunity as men i'm not saying it's right or but i do believe that women
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should have the opportunity and there are women who are discriminating against look at pay gap right
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yeah but the pay gap like like no two groups are going to be paid the same but they should be
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that's why there's country you've you've seen there's there's certain countries that actually
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do have this openness about what people's salaries are right and when salaries are not disclosed
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that's when you see a pay gap well i'm saying like 60 percent of women have never asked for a raise
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so how can so how about but i'm saying how can we complain about something when like we're not asking
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for raises why are you not asking that's a real question because we're but we're yeah we're
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we're scared do you not believe you're worth it well what do you mean do you not believe you're worth
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what men like women well women no i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying no i'm saying i'm
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saying women are more agreeable so we're more likely to agree we're men so but i'm saying that's
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biology that's not the society biology i completely 100 disagree with the biology i'd like to hear why
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you think it's biology well i would just say like biology why because throughout history like men
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typically had to be more biology i want to hear the biological physiological explanation for why
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you think that's the case i'm saying when you take men and women at large right and you and you measure
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their personality traits like women are more agreeable than men and and i and i'm saying so and the
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reason i think that also is because if you look at countries that are more free the pay gap increases
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i think it's pretty easy like when you look at things like scandinavian countries again where they're more
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egalitarian and like countries in the middle east east where they're less like that's pretty you
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would agree like like saudi arabia where women can't drop you know i actually don't know if i
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agree with that statement free is a very subjective term if you ask saudi arabian women if they're free
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a lot of them would say they're actually freer than those who are from christian-based countries you're
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right you're right but so the way i would say under the law under the law so like under the law if you
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look at the law for islamic countries women have a lot of power whether they exercise it or not
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is a whole different issue and whether they're under a conservative so how would you define
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freedom that's a great question that's why i'm asking you no i no no no no i'll tell i'm telling
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you what i'm saying so like but you're not defining it so the way the way i'm saying it is like men and
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women that have equal opportunity there's no law holding them back so like for example in saudi arabia
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a couple years ago women couldn't drive i would say that's not free and when you look at countries that
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go like drive driving equates to freedom partially yeah that's one freedom voting that's another
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freedom like yeah education education is sure another one but yeah again correlation is not
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causation so i think you have to take into account other factors that surround it so driving i think
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is a great example of that voting education great i think that's perfectly great and i totally agree with
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that yeah but i wouldn't use driving as an example what i wouldn't use driving but you education would
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you use education absolutely is it driving an education it's an issue to get somewhere right
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but if it's like transportation that's another form okay well i'm saying like if if it was the case
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that okay i'm saying like if it was the case that we were really so oppressed and held back and it was
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the patriarchy like in the countries where we had more freedom we would do better and we don't like
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i think women pick different things like women like people men like objects i'm not sure if i
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agree with that statement but i know where you're going with that argument like okay i'm one of ten i
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have ten siblings i'm one of ten five boys five girls i was always told i could do whatever i want
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my brothers are all engineers i'd rather die than being an engineer props to you i'm not doing that
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anymore it doesn't mean i do it anymore right and even if we look at like the hard jobs
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yeah i get that um i i think even if we look at like the hard jobs right what do you define a car
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like bricklaying plumbers electricians i think my job's hard physically hard yeah is that what you're
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physically demanding yeah i'm sorry a bricklayer that's harder than a nanny like just my it's not
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at all my job is very hard if you're talking about physically demanding yes there's certain
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position yeah i'd say jobs that would probably be easier for a certain gender but gender is also
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something that i think you need to define as well to define gender yeah oh if you're born a man if
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you're born a woman i mean how do you define born as a man um the the the chromosomes like xxxy people who
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are born to three chromosomes or one missing chromosome how do you find them um i don't know how i would
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define the people you say because you know there's more people who are born with an extra chromosome
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people who are redheads so they exist more than you do so how would you define them they're not
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men or female i don't know i don't know how i define them and that's why i asked the gender
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question okay i'm just what do you mean i mean i would just say like for the most part but i'm
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talking about the rule i'm not talking about the exception so but i'm saying like a lot of times
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i can you i'm not trying to be rude but you keep interrupting me when i'm trying to talk
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i'm like your arguments don't make sense that's why i'm interrupting i know but like again that's rude
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like like like this is supposed to be a polite conversation no i i it's not polite when you
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keep interrupting me i thought this is a place of uh pre-discussion and apparently we have free rules
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yeah i mean isn't equal i mean if you aren't you just more agreeable i am that's why i'm nicely
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telling you and i'm not interrupting you actually you should fight for what you want right yeah yeah we
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should and that's and that's your point then and i don't know what we're even talking about i don't
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you're talking you're talking about exceptions right a lot of times a lot of yeah because the
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majority of people are born with two chromosomes not three so and that's what i'm saying i'm talking
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about the rule i'm not talking about the exception there's no rule though that's the problem i think
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you need to use right do you do you think that do you think that gender doesn't exist i agree that
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gender does not exist so how would you define a man and a woman i don't define a man and a woman
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so could i be a man you could if you'd like to be yes how so depends on how you define a man
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i don't believe in the binary system okay explain more so like once again as we went over this once
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before two percent of the population which is more than people who are redhead okay but i'm talking
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about for me not not the two percent well i'm i'm drawing a comparison if you allow me to and not
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interrupt there's more people that are born with an extra chromosome who are not men or female who not
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who have not only one genitalia but two okay how people describe a man or a woman depends on what
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society live in some describe it as a gentelia others believe it's on hormonal on hormonal and
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what you actually which one is greater testosterone or whether it's estrogen if you look the limbic
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system right now olympics now defines it as having a certain level of testosterone or estrogen
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not on genitalia there's women who have been excluded excluded from female competitions because
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they have a higher level testosterone but they were born with female parts are they female or male
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they're excluded because they're female so if lebron james went on estrogen for two years
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they would be excluded so he could compete in the women's division well according to the division
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when people govern that sport they probably would be excluded yeah would you agree with that i'm not
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the one who's an expert on that i i leave that to experts who are medical physicians based on like
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common sense i'm not an expert in physiology or biology i'm not a doctor wouldn't you leave it to
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experts no i mean i play i played them do you believe climate change i don't have an opinion
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on climate change you don't yeah do you believe it happens or not what did you leave that to the
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expert son my point is leave it to the expert i don't know i think there's some conclusions you
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could just draw like what is a man and what is a woman fact so i leave do you do you lebron james
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i'm not i'm not i'm not the governing body nor the experts on that so i would leave it on those who
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actually have that expertise okay okay thank you for stopping appreciate it you know i was just
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