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- July 25, 2023
Man Claims That He's Masculinity Is Toxic
Episode Stats
Length
10 minutes
Words per Minute
181.49893
Word Count
1,964
Sentence Count
237
Misogynist Sentences
16
Hate Speech Sentences
4
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Reality, he has reality.
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Or he has another Instagram that you don't know about.
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No, no, no, you don't understand.
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If he complied to everything a woman says,
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like, something is wrong.
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He's not like the leader.
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And you're not going to like him as well.
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If he's just doing everything he does.
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You're going to get bored.
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At a certain point, definitely.
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He might have bended to your rules for that curve,
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but eventually it's not going to work out.
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And let me tell you something.
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My last relationship and the most healthy I had, to a point.
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So I asked her to delete her Instagram.
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I hate Instagram back then.
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Why did you ask her to delete her Instagram?
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Because I found it useless for her.
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Why?
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She was not making money out of this.
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But do you need to have Instagram to make money out of it?
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Why do you have it then?
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Just to promote yourself?
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Yeah, sorry.
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I like how the cheater gets it.
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You should all go through the proper cheating to understand something.
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First of all, let me tell you what I did.
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Okay, go ahead.
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I told her to delete it.
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She said yes immediately.
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And I deactivated my account as well.
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But she didn't ask me.
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Is the difference, yeah?
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And now why I said it?
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Because there is no reason, any reason at all,
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for her to upload pictures on Instagram or anything.
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Why?
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For who?
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I'm in front of her.
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She can wear anything she wants.
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Maybe she's not doing it for you.
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Maybe she doesn't have that validation.
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Maybe family, friends, if she lives abroad whatsoever.
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Family friends, she can send her mother on WhatsApp.
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That could do.
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Yeah, there is no reason why.
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And because she was like a bit famous for what she was doing
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in an international level.
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So there was many people there on Instagram.
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So yeah, I didn't want all these people to just follow her and watch her.
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That was toxic from my side.
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Yeah, I wouldn't do that now.
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I wouldn't care at all.
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But yeah, I'm telling you the situation.
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Who told you that was toxic?
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Why is that toxic?
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People call it toxic these days.
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Yeah, I felt it's controlling.
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It's not toxic.
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It's controlling.
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And it's not fair.
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No, no, no.
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I'm saying toxic because it was like overruled.
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For example, you don't like something, let her go.
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That's it.
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Don't put rules.
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If she really wants you, she will understand on her own.
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And then that's a green flag.
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She will deactivate it.
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She knows it's wrong.
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So was she using Instagram as a job?
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Like four jobs?
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Like was it a business Instagram?
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Because you said she was known internationally.
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It was a bit of promotion, but she wasn't like actively making money from Instagram itself.
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Can I ask how long the relationship lasted after this?
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One week.
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Totally lasted six months.
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No, no.
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After you asked her to close the Instagram.
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Oh, that was maybe the first month.
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After a month.
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Do you guys think that a man should be allowed to go to a strip club in a relationship?
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Just watch, yes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Bachelor parties.
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My ex did it.
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And it was okay.
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He went through with his friends.
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As long as he's okay with me, it's okay to go to a...
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Would you go to a show in Vegas?
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Go to where?
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To a show in Vegas.
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What is that?
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Las Vegas, for example.
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And see all these male shows that they...
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No, no, no, no, not at all.
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Respect.
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But we don't have to do it back if we are now and we agree with this.
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I don't even do it as a single girl.
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Actually, I have a question.
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Have you guys ever had a celebrity DM you or message you?
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Yeah.
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So, no?
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I dated.
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I don't know if he's technically a celebrity, but he's well known in his field.
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And we were dating for a long time.
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Okay.
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Have you ever had a celebrity?
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No.
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Yes.
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No?
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I had DM me, but I never dated.
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I didn't say date.
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I just said DM you.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Have you ever...
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You don't have Instagram.
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No, but I just...
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Back in the days, I met someone that is actually really, really famous now.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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What about you?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Wait.
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So, show of hands, who said yes?
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It was...
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So, out of...
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven random women that...
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None of you knew each other, right?
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No?
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Okay.
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Four, five have been messaged by celebrities?
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Was it the same one?
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But that's the point, right?
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That's why guys don't want you to have Instagram.
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Like, that's why it's cheating.
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Because out of seven random chicks, more than half have been messaged by a celebrity.
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And so, when you're in a relationship, a guy can message you at any time and ruin it.
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But also, just on that, surely it's what you do in response.
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Exactly.
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You, like, delete, block, don't get involved, right?
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Rather than, yeah, ooh, you know what I mean?
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Would you...
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Would you...
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All right.
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Well, what if the roles were reversed?
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Would you want your boyfriend to go to a party where every single girl wants to sleep with him?
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I mean...
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I mean, not really.
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Not at all.
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But it's not quite the same thing, because one is physical, they're in your face, and one is, like, an electronic device.
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Okay, would you want him to have Tinder?
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Well, not if we're dating, absolutely not.
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Why would you have Tinder if you were dating?
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Yeah, any dating apps.
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Instagram is not just a dating app, though.
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Even though you're saying it's the most...
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Why else would men message you on Instagram?
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You don't have to respond.
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I wouldn't respond.
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He doesn't have to respond on Tinder.
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He just wants to see the women that message him.
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Yeah.
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I get your point, but at the same time...
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Just to look at them.
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I'm curious from the men.
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Have any of you been messaged by a celebrity woman?
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Anyone?
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Oh, yeah.
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Where's the Tinder boy?
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Where's the Tinder boy?
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Bring him back!
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Bring him back!
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He probably had it all.
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Yeah, but they're just friends.
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Don't cap.
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Yeah.
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Don't cap.
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Don't cap.
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Don't cap, bro.
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They're just friends.
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You've been messaged?
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I've been messaged, but...
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They are not famous.
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They weren't famous at the time, and then they got famous, and then they messaged me.
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But...
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So it was like an ex, sort of?
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No, just like friendship, common friends, you know, people in the industry, and then someone
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gets famous, and they're like, oh, shit, you exist, hey.
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Okay.
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Who was it?
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Names?
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No names.
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No names?
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Names?
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I had a relationship with a celebrity, but we've met, like, in person.
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She didn't text me, or I didn't text you.
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Oh, okay.
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I'm curious out of the girls.
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Anyone want to give me the names who messaged you?
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I can.
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Yeah?
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I can.
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Yeah, who?
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Right now, I don't even know how to pronounce his name.
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Maximilian White.
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He's the biggest cannabis, Maximilian.
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I can Google him.
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What is it?
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What does he do?
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I don't know.
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He just...
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He's a cannabist.
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I mean, he's drunk.
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He's a criminal.
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No, he's not.
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Okay.
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Anyone else?
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Any names?
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Names?
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No?
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No.
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I respect it.
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No snitching.
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Okay.
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That's him.
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Let me see.
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I've never heard of him.
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You're very brave, you know, today, saying things straight, raw, straight.
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Why is she going off?
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She's funny.
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Okay, so, question.
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If you refuse to sleep with your husband, do we feel bad if you get cheated on?
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I mean, first of all, why would you refuse to sleep with your husband?
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Like, what's going on?
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One out of four women do it.
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I don't know what to say to me.
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Why'd you do it in the first place?
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Why'd you sleep in the first place?
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What?
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Why did you have a sexual interaction in the first place?
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They're married.
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There's a lot more buildup before marriage.
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It's not like you just met.
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Like, oi.
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Right.
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We're going to get married.
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Let's go.
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No, no.
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But so, I've talked to divorce attorneys about this.
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Like, what happens typically is the woman, they'll have two kids and then just stop sleeping
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with their husband.
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What happens?
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Their libido drops?
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They're just not interested?
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What?
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I don't understand.
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I think it's a control method.
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I mean, like, because it's like, they'll sleep with him if he does chores.
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Now it's mine.
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Now it belongs to me and I can do whatever I want.
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And I heard lots of women thinking like that.
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Yeah.
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In a way it's wrong.
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I think it comes, so, I've seen it happen in my surrounding, whether it was friends or
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family, they had a great foundation, great relationship, five kids, but two or three kids
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down the line, things started crumbling slightly.
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And it's not because someone cheated or maybe they did, but they worked around it and they
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were still going.
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And it was a decade solid example, multiple decades that I've seen solid.
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And it just slightly crumbled over time.
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And it could have been from the woman's side, from the man's side, whether either side left.
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It just.
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They got, they got five kids.
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So my, my, my question is if the woman stops sleeping with the husband, can he cheat?
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No.
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In all honesty, that is a very weird situation.
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I don't know.
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That's really common.
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I think it's not from both sides to perspective.
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I mean, it's more common.
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It's common one way though.
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So you're married, right?
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Which means for better and worse.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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To death do you part.
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You've done all the, the vows.
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So you've entered a contract with each other.
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So ideally no one should be cheating.
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Everyone should be loving each other and giving to each other.
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What should a guy do if he, if his wife won't sleep with him?
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Have a conversation and say, Hey, what's going on?
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Let's sort this out.
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Because there's got to be something that's not quite right.
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Maybe she's just fricking tired.
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If she's got five kids like this example over here, you know what I mean?
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I don't know.
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But like, well, should he get tired and then just stop paying the bills?
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Stop working?
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No, no, no.
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What I'm saying is when, when there's a, when, when there's a, like a, an issue, whether it's
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from the guy or the girl or whoever, whatever, they should work it out together.
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They're, they're a community.
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I'm saying she is not sleeping with him.
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Like she's refusing.
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But why?
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Give me reason.
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Like, give me a reason.
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And if she's like, no, no, no, then he has like, he technically, yes.
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Cause he, if he still is desiring that he has a sexual drive and she doesn't, then why
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not?
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If so, if she can't provide it, then, you know, but, but I think they need to have a
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conversation before he just says, Oh, well, forget you.
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What can we do to sort this out?
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If it's still not working, they usually do.
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Okay.
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They'll usually have a conversation and she still just won't do it.
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Well, if she's like that, then he should be, that's what I said.
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Yeah.
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But breakup before, like, I think, you know, if he gets to the point that you talk, talk,
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talk, it means the relationship is dead.
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Yeah.
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You know, so there's no point to moving on.
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