JustPearlyThings - April 08, 2023


Men NEED To Be APPRECIATED More

Topics
equality and privilege
Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
This FEMININE Lady Said The Unbelievable.. She Proved that Women Love The Bad Boy

Episode Stats


Length

8 minutes

Words per minute

205.86

Word count

1,826

Sentence count

136

Harmful content

Misogyny

22

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Toxicity

3

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Hate speech

22

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In this episode, we discuss the role of men in society and the role they play in enabling women to be sexually empowered. We discuss the difference between S-A-A and S-E-A, the roles of men and women in society, and the roles that women play in society.

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00:00:00.000 But I think in reference to the question, I think this is how successful feminism has been in society. 1.00
00:00:08.380 And it's that gynocentric order that society has now become. 1.00
00:00:11.520 Part of it is down to the feminist agenda, but it's also down to men overcompensating for what women perceive the patriarchy have been.
00:00:20.280 So I think a lot of women are unappreciative of what men have done to propel society into where it currently is. 1.00
00:00:24.740 And so feminism has managed to garner quite a lot of strength in terms of changing people's social perceptions to how men and women deal with each other. 0.98
00:00:33.000 And in order for men not to be considered misogynistic or, I guess, be ostracized in society, they overcompensate for a lot of the things that women do. 1.00
00:00:42.120 So a lot of things will be overlooked.
00:00:43.960 Like I talk like I remember bringing up a story in the podcast before about when I was like S-A-ed and it was funny to everyone.
00:00:50.440 But if like, if, and it was funny to me as well, don't get me wrong, because I never felt that threat.
00:00:55.360 Like it is what it is.
00:00:56.860 But flip that over and put that same scenario, but as a woman, it's game over. 1.00
00:01:01.840 To basically give context, like a woman like ripped open my robe and then one bit my chest, my willy's all out and blah, blah, blah. 1.00
00:01:09.100 But like if I was to go up to a woman on a night out, a bust bant of her, rip open her dress and then my friend suck her titty. 1.00
00:01:15.440 Yeah, it's going left. 1.00
00:01:17.500 No, no, no, I agree.
00:01:18.540 I agree that it should be taken like, they're both the same degree of, they're both the same thing.
00:01:24.040 Like when one gender does one thing and the same gender does the same thing. 1.00
00:01:26.620 With S-A, it's both should be taken like the same gravity, I feel.
00:01:31.120 So I think a lot of women say that though, but I think in reality, I don't believe a lot of you.
00:01:38.020 I know what you want to say here.
00:01:39.420 You want to say like women don't see to the same gravity, but I also feel like I don't want to like make men the victim again in this situation.
00:01:45.700 But I do feel like men do enable certain things like that because you see a lot of times on like Twitter or online that you see that men like lose their virginity to really older women.
00:01:54.820 But in the present, when that happened, a lot of the friends, these male friends were enabling that like, oh, like you're seeing a milf, you're doing this and this and this and they don't actually recognize, you know, within the group of men that what they was doing or what they're enabling was actually something really messed up.
00:02:09.820 I mean, you don't, you don't think women kind of do the same thing when we're twerking online when like any grown man can see that or like you have 15 year olds dressed in damn near nothing.
00:02:20.640 What do you think you're attracting?
00:02:23.680 I don't know what you're asking me.
00:02:25.200 So I'm saying, wouldn't you say like women enable it to? 1.00
00:02:29.360 I guess so.
00:02:30.280 To a certain degree.
00:02:31.180 Yeah, I guess to a certain degree.
00:02:32.560 I'm not saying that women don't like, I'm talking about them, the subjective male experience because you're talking about your SA experience.
00:02:39.880 I'm talking to how.
00:02:41.080 I don't think it's SA, it just comes under that category.
00:02:43.220 It comes under that category.
00:02:44.240 But like, I feel like with the male experience and things like that happen, like sexually as well, I feel like sometimes the male community also does enable certain things by making certain things elusive.
00:02:56.200 Like, I want to date an older woman. 1.00
00:02:58.220 I want to have these experiences.
00:02:59.600 Like, you'll see like men will try to get into clubs really young or try to go to certain parties really young because they want to meet older women or I don't know.
00:03:06.780 So I don't think the problem is that men enable it because I think for the most part, it's weirdly a privileged position to be in considering that most men don't have access to sex in the first place.
00:03:17.160 So to be in a position where women want you that much, they're willing to do that to you is probably a privileged position for a man. 0.52
00:03:21.900 So I wouldn't say most men complain about that.
00:03:23.840 I think the problem is, is that when women seek this so-called equality, but then don't want to live by equal standards, that's when it becomes problematic.
00:03:31.340 So the only reason I bring up that point is because when women talk about equality, you only speak in terms of double standards that suit you. 1.00
00:03:38.720 And when it doesn't suit you, you no longer want it anymore.
00:03:41.840 It depends on what topics though, because we're equal, but men and women, no, but men, I mean, as humans, we are, but men and women are different.
00:03:50.960 We have different needs.
00:03:51.880 Like even with this modern women thing, like I think it's, I don't think more and more women should try to become more masculine. 0.99
00:03:59.680 I think women need to embrace their own femininity and understand the power in that. 1.00
00:04:05.880 And instead of trying to be this, you know what, you're a go-getter, I'm going to be a go-getter as well.
00:04:10.780 I'm going to take on your role as well.
00:04:12.540 Like, no, we have our separate, we have our separate roles in the world.
00:04:17.280 Whether or not people want to understand that or not, because yeah, we're equal, but to a certain extent.
00:04:26.080 It doesn't mean you're more important or I'm more important, but just unfortunately we have different roles.
00:04:30.300 Like they say, women and children are the only people that are loved unconditionally.
00:04:36.800 Whereas men, they love conditioning on what you can do, on the action you take, on how you build. 0.63
00:04:42.040 Like you said, we just have, I guess we're born of like indefinite value.
00:04:46.140 Whereas men, you're judged on like, who are you?
00:04:48.640 What have you done?
00:04:49.580 What can you provide?
00:04:50.700 Et cetera, et cetera.
00:04:52.120 Do you think that will stay the same though?
00:04:54.320 Because I feel like it's like that because society is built in a way where traditionally men were in the workforce 0.95
00:04:59.840 and traditionally men were seen as providers.
00:05:03.340 So men were seen as a means to work. 0.74
00:05:06.160 And when someone's a means to work, they're a means to provide.
00:05:08.260 That's why they were loved conditionally.
00:05:10.160 But now more women are entering the workforce. 1.00
00:05:12.200 I think that could happen to us too.
00:05:13.820 But we're not expected to do things as well.
00:05:15.860 I think men are just seen as expendable in society.
00:05:18.240 That's why they do all the hard jobs. 0.85
00:05:19.780 That's why they're the ones sent to war. 0.59
00:05:21.580 Their bodies are going to be on the line if we go to war.
00:05:25.200 Like I think no matter, even if women are in the workforce, what are we doing? 1.00
00:05:28.420 We're not doing the hard jobs.
00:05:30.460 Yeah, like you have more testosterone.
00:05:33.740 You can build muscles, this, that, the other.
00:05:36.620 We can't.
00:05:37.140 We have other uses.
00:05:38.480 But I think in terms of your question, you need to, whatever energy you're giving out,
00:05:43.240 you need to understand your own energy.
00:05:44.500 Is it feminine, masculine, whatever, regardless of your sex, you need to know what energy is yours.
00:05:52.520 And that's the only way you'll be able to excel in what you do and also attract the opposite partner that you need.
00:05:59.720 But based on that logic, we're not equal.
00:06:01.420 I think we can strive for balance because obviously there's things that you're better at, there's things that I'm better at.
00:06:06.720 That makes us balanced.
00:06:07.920 So what are men good at and what are women better at? 0.98
00:06:10.700 Can you give some stereotypical gendered skills? 0.57
00:06:17.260 Men are better with things.
00:06:18.400 Women are better with people. 1.00
00:06:20.560 Okay.
00:06:21.060 So like with that logic, it would make a lot of sense for men to be sent to war because they're better at those kind of things. 0.54
00:06:28.100 And then we make a lot more sense for men to be leaders, but we're just not.
00:06:32.180 Women would be the medics. 1.00
00:06:34.700 No, no, no, no, no.
00:06:35.420 Like women to be commanding and ruling and like delegating tasks and men to be doing those tasks. 1.00
00:06:42.080 But that's a cognitive dissonance then because you're saying that women are better at working with people. 1.00
00:06:48.280 So like directing people, telling people to do things and men are better at doing skill, hand work.
00:06:52.600 I should say women are more interested in doing jobs that have to deal with people. 1.00
00:06:56.240 But when it comes to leadership, women don't excel in leadership like men do. 1.00
00:07:00.460 Oh, sorry.
00:07:01.780 Can you just, sorry.
00:07:03.320 Because you can work with people as the checkout person at a grocery store.
00:07:09.160 Like leadership, but I'm saying like leadership and working with people are two different sectors.
00:07:15.100 But like you said, like you said, men are good.
00:07:17.020 They work the hardest jobs.
00:07:18.740 Like plumbing, electricity, like everything.
00:07:23.020 So if we look at men in that way, that that's their skill set, in places like war, it would make sense that the women would be controlling and organizing the war and that the men would actually go out and fight. 0.90
00:07:37.160 But they wouldn't know all the logistics.
00:07:39.380 They have to be a soldier themselves to know.
00:07:41.480 No, no, no, no, no.
00:07:41.880 Like when people go to war, the soldier doesn't know everything.
00:07:45.000 They get given commands.
00:07:46.180 There's someone that organizes that.
00:07:46.920 From a general who.
00:07:47.980 From a general.
00:07:48.480 From somebody who's got experience in actually being on the battlefield.
00:07:51.640 No, no.
00:07:51.980 Most generals have never been on the battlefield.
00:07:54.420 So how do they get, what they get?
00:07:56.000 They normally go to university.
00:07:58.260 They get degrees in like math.
00:08:01.460 Is that true?
00:08:01.980 Things like that.
00:08:02.760 You know, like all the medals of, oh, this is everything I've gone through.
00:08:05.800 There's different, there's different sort of ranks.
00:08:07.460 So there's like, if you're talking about SAS, then everyone's going to be out in combat.
00:08:11.660 But if you're talking about things like large wars and large things that are organized by large organizations, like, like, I'm going to say like, you said the American army.
00:08:20.980 It's not going to be just organized by just soldiers.
00:08:23.420 Not everyone in that army will go and fight.
00:08:25.500 There'll be people that will organize things.
00:08:27.180 There'll be intelligence, surveillance, things like that.
00:08:29.980 People that collect information and use it.
00:08:32.080 People that have like master's degrees, PhDs, like maths.
00:08:35.040 Right.
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