JustPearlyThings - July 03, 2023


Millionaire Gets Red Pilled By Victoria Secrets Models

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Hannah Pearl Davis
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8 minutes

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1,580

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155

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22

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10

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On this episode of the podcast, I sit down with a good friend of mine, who is a former fashion model turned entrepreneur. We talk about what it was like working in New York City's nightlife, how to deal with women, and what it's like to be a fashion model in the big city.

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00:00:00.000 Where are you from originally? New York, did you say?
00:00:02.440 I lived in New York about 15 years.
00:00:04.200 Okay.
00:00:04.520 New York City.
00:00:05.200 And where before that, like, where were you?
00:00:07.120 Yeah, yeah. So I lived in D.C.
00:00:09.660 I lived in, I lived, actually lived here for,
00:00:12.800 I lived in Europe for about a couple months prior to getting a home here
00:00:15.100 for the last few years.
00:00:17.460 And I lived in D.C. I lived in Atlanta, L.A., New York.
00:00:22.220 But New York City is where I lived the longest, about 15 years.
00:00:24.560 Okay. And is that because you were in, you said finance, private equity?
00:00:27.580 I did, yeah, but I also worked in the nightclubs.
00:00:30.020 Okay.
00:00:30.220 So I was working for about 10 years.
00:00:33.020 I worked with fashion models in New York City nightclubs. 0.98
00:00:35.880 Wow.
00:00:36.560 Yeah, yeah. So I was going, I would go to castings,
00:00:39.120 and I would meet the women, and I would get their number,
00:00:44.460 I would exchange information, and then I would invite them out to the nightclub.
00:00:47.740 And then I would charge a fee for bringing them out.
00:00:50.980 And it was a good situation because the women wouldn't feel obligated 0.99
00:00:54.960 to owe me anything, and I would get a fee from the nightclub.
00:00:59.440 So I would charge like $1,000, let's say, bring like eight models.
00:01:03.880 And then I'd bring like five, ten other women who weren't models, 1.00
00:01:06.460 but tall, generally speaking, or pretty.
00:01:10.800 And then it's like I'd bring like 10, 15 people, like a crew.
00:01:14.960 We would take a table.
00:01:15.980 We'd get bottle service.
00:01:17.740 That's where I learned a lot about women. 1.00
00:01:20.120 Okay.
00:01:20.580 That was really like my PhD in understanding women 0.88
00:01:23.740 because my women were essentially my entire clientele. 1.00
00:01:27.160 I didn't get paid to bring guys.
00:01:28.380 I only got paid for bringing women. 1.00
00:01:29.540 Well, I'd imagine, too, you have to learn so much dealing with like the top 10,
00:01:35.540 20% of women in terms of, like I'd imagine if they're in New York modeling, 0.99
00:01:39.520 they're probably top, would you say, 20% of beauty in the world, right?
00:01:42.960 Yeah, yeah.
00:01:43.300 So it's like those are the women that have so much sexual agency 0.98
00:01:47.640 and sexual power, so much more than the average chick.
00:01:51.420 So it must have been interesting to see like what they did with it.
00:01:56.040 Like, would you say that those women, when selecting like boyfriends, 1.00
00:02:00.860 did they typically select like good boyfriends?
00:02:03.880 Did they sleep around?
00:02:04.960 Like what did they do?
00:02:06.220 Does that question make sense with all that like power in a way?
00:02:09.280 Yeah, I think a lot of men, and, you know, just for the record,
00:02:18.020 you know, just so you know, I'm not lying.
00:02:21.260 Like you could go on New York Post, New York Daily News,
00:02:23.500 and see that in around 2012, 2013, I had a Monday night party.
00:02:27.720 Okay.
00:02:28.280 And that was peak because that was a party where the supermodels, 1.00
00:02:31.620 Victoria's Secret models, Hollywood celebrities, billionaires would actually come.
00:02:36.700 It was known as the top party in that New York.
00:02:39.280 In that, in that period, I didn't keep it for long.
00:02:42.500 The nightclub ended up closing, but just to get to that point is top of the pyramid
00:02:45.880 of New York nightlife.
00:02:46.700 That's very hard to get to.
00:02:48.900 So I was able to see a lot.
00:02:52.160 And one thing I saw was how some men could be so good at making money.
00:02:58.580 But bad with women. 1.00
00:02:59.800 Yeah.
00:03:00.140 Yeah.
00:03:00.460 And I would see it over and over and over and over and over again,
00:03:04.260 to the point where I was mystified at,
00:03:07.720 hey, man, I wish I, back then, I didn't make much money, Pearl.
00:03:11.520 So I thought, how can this guy, and these are not necessarily all dorks.
00:03:16.720 You know what I'm saying? 0.97
00:03:17.780 Dorks. 0.99
00:03:18.200 I don't like to call anybody a dork, but just a dorky character. 0.99
00:03:22.520 Right. 0.97
00:03:23.160 Okay.
00:03:25.340 And he was very good at making money.
00:03:29.880 And, you know, he had the material items. 1.00
00:03:33.680 But with the women, he was a complete idiot. 1.00
00:03:35.880 Like, it was like that part of his brain didn't work. 1.00
00:03:39.780 You know, it was sort of like a guy that's great with computers,
00:03:42.400 but he doesn't have sales ability.
00:03:43.780 Or a guy who's great with sales, but he can't cook.
00:03:46.900 He can't fix a tire if it goes flat.
00:03:50.120 You know, he can't put furniture together, but he's a great salesman.
00:03:52.820 He doesn't know how to fix the computer.
00:03:55.340 Those guys, so would they be sexless?
00:03:58.200 Or would it be more like they just couldn't keep women? 0.71
00:04:00.580 I think a lot of them would struggle.
00:04:03.640 I think a lot of them would struggle to get women. 1.00
00:04:05.760 I think a lot of them would become bitter that, you know,
00:04:11.500 that they would get played.
00:04:13.260 And I think a lot of them, I think it's hard for a lot of these guys,
00:04:16.160 to be honest, because I think that they face the most viciousness.
00:04:21.860 When they're out at New York City nightclubs, it's tough to get women. 1.00
00:04:24.840 You know, it's also easy to get women because there's a lot of women, 1.00
00:04:27.040 but it's also nasty.
00:04:28.300 It's cold.
00:04:28.700 And I would approach women at a casting.
00:04:31.920 So that's like 1 o'clock on a Tuesday, you know, on Spring Street in Soho.
00:04:37.500 Their model's coming out for like two hours.
00:04:39.780 I'm going up to them, like talking to them, right there in the street.
00:04:43.100 And I'm, you know, about 6'3 guy.
00:04:45.680 You know, I'm Middle Eastern.
00:04:47.320 I'm a dark guy.
00:04:48.540 These girls are coming from like Russia. 1.00
00:04:51.380 They're coming from like Poland, Ukraine. 1.00
00:04:53.640 They've never seen a dark man like me before.
00:04:55.520 And the ones they have were the ladies guys that take the women and go to Eastern Europe. 0.91
00:05:00.440 You know, they have a name for that.
00:05:02.280 And I'm not going to say it, but so they may have viewed that I was trying to do something like that.
00:05:07.100 There was that stereotype of men like me.
00:05:08.980 So I'm approaching them right in the street.
00:05:12.780 There's no music.
00:05:13.540 There's no ambiance.
00:05:14.700 And I would have to be able to get them, get their phone number, and then invite them out to a nightclub. 0.91
00:05:20.500 Then I'd go pick them up with like a car, take them out to a nice dinner.
00:05:23.920 The best restaurants would like, a lot of the best restaurants would compass and take them out.
00:05:27.780 So imagine the power of going up with like models from IMG, Ford, Next, and New York.
00:05:34.060 You know, that's high caliber models.
00:05:36.660 New York and Paris.
00:05:37.780 You know, these are girls that modeled in Paris, London, New York, Milano, Tokyo. 1.00
00:05:42.700 And you go to the nightclub, and then you see a table.
00:05:44.980 They would put me right next to another table, $5,000, $10,000, $15,000 table.
00:05:49.280 Bottle service, guys spending money.
00:05:51.280 That guy spends $15,000, and the girl won't even look at them. 1.00
00:05:55.080 You know what I mean?
00:05:55.860 So they would get attention from women, but it would be very like, the girls were kind of using them, basically. 1.00
00:06:05.500 The guys that were like bad with chicks, anyways.
00:06:08.520 This gets even, there's even another facet.
00:06:11.200 There's so many dimensions to this.
00:06:13.260 So the Brazilian models, these are all called, this is generalizations, first of all.
00:06:19.760 I mean, you have to.
00:06:20.780 You can't have a conversation about anything without generalizations.
00:06:24.100 Yeah, well, because it's fascinating.
00:06:27.340 Everyone gets mad over them.
00:06:28.900 Oh, you can't generally.
00:06:29.960 Well, you can.
00:06:31.220 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:32.280 I mean, yeah.
00:06:32.880 You know, it's.
00:06:33.860 Yeah.
00:06:34.060 Yeah, so the Brazilian models would have tension with the Russian models.
00:06:40.840 And like, they would have these model apartments, where maybe there's one part of them a Russian, one part of them a Brazilian.
00:06:46.860 It's not always exactly like this, but this is a general idea.
00:06:49.940 And what I noticed was that the Brazilian models, in general, were much more easygoing, relaxed, more open, whereas the Eastern European models were more traditional. 0.97
00:07:05.000 They didn't give a shit how a man looked. 0.98
00:07:07.660 They cared way more. 1.00
00:07:09.360 About money.
00:07:10.060 About money.
00:07:10.740 But they were also, in that way, like, treat me like a woman.
00:07:14.660 You're going to do this, this, this, and this for me.
00:07:17.820 But in return, I will do X, Y, and Z for you.
00:07:22.080 And okay with being a traditional woman.
00:07:25.200 And being submissive.
00:07:26.400 And I thought that was more honest than someone that was, even if I didn't like it, I think that that's more honest than saying, I do want X, Y, and Z.
00:07:37.900 But I, but when it suits me, I also want this.
00:07:42.280 Right.
00:07:42.700 You know, like, yeah, I'm happy to, you know, have these benefits of being independent.
00:07:49.620 But then, but then when the, when the tab comes, I want you to pay.
00:07:53.200 Which one is it?
00:07:54.360 I'm curious.
00:07:55.360 Did they end up getting married?
00:07:56.820 Like, I'm just curious.
00:07:57.880 Like, the women, because you're how old? 1.00
00:08:00.240 I'm 42.
00:08:00.980 So you're 42.
00:08:01.840 So I'd imagine, how old were you when you were doing this?
00:08:04.980 Man, I was, I was like in my 20s, early 30s.
00:08:08.440 Okay.
00:08:08.640 So now you can kind of see, like, what happened to them.
00:08:11.440 Like, if, if it ended up good or bad.
00:08:13.700 So I'm just curious, do women in the top 20% of beauty tend to get married or do they waste their beauty? 0.99
00:08:22.920 I will find that a lot of the fashion models that would come out to the nightclubs, after two, three years, a lot of them drop off. 0.96