Millionaire Gets Red Pilled By Victoria Secrets Models
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Summary
On this episode of the podcast, I sit down with a good friend of mine, who is a former fashion model turned entrepreneur. We talk about what it was like working in New York City's nightlife, how to deal with women, and what it's like to be a fashion model in the big city.
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Where are you from originally? New York, did you say?
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I lived in Europe for about a couple months prior to getting a home here
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And I lived in D.C. I lived in Atlanta, L.A., New York.
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But New York City is where I lived the longest, about 15 years.
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Okay. And is that because you were in, you said finance, private equity?
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I did, yeah, but I also worked in the nightclubs.
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I worked with fashion models in New York City nightclubs.
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Yeah, yeah. So I was going, I would go to castings,
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and I would meet the women, and I would get their number,
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I would exchange information, and then I would invite them out to the nightclub.
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And then I would charge a fee for bringing them out.
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And it was a good situation because the women wouldn't feel obligated
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to owe me anything, and I would get a fee from the nightclub.
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So I would charge like $1,000, let's say, bring like eight models.
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And then I'd bring like five, ten other women who weren't models,
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And then it's like I'd bring like 10, 15 people, like a crew.
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That was really like my PhD in understanding women
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because my women were essentially my entire clientele.
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Well, I'd imagine, too, you have to learn so much dealing with like the top 10,
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20% of women in terms of, like I'd imagine if they're in New York modeling,
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they're probably top, would you say, 20% of beauty in the world, right?
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So it's like those are the women that have so much sexual agency
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and sexual power, so much more than the average chick.
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So it must have been interesting to see like what they did with it.
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Like, would you say that those women, when selecting like boyfriends,
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did they typically select like good boyfriends?
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Does that question make sense with all that like power in a way?
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Yeah, I think a lot of men, and, you know, just for the record,
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Like you could go on New York Post, New York Daily News,
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and see that in around 2012, 2013, I had a Monday night party.
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And that was peak because that was a party where the supermodels,
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Victoria's Secret models, Hollywood celebrities, billionaires would actually come.
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It was known as the top party in that New York.
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In that, in that period, I didn't keep it for long.
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The nightclub ended up closing, but just to get to that point is top of the pyramid
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And one thing I saw was how some men could be so good at making money.
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And I would see it over and over and over and over and over again,
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hey, man, I wish I, back then, I didn't make much money, Pearl.
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So I thought, how can this guy, and these are not necessarily all dorks.
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I don't like to call anybody a dork, but just a dorky character.
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But with the women, he was a complete idiot.
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Like, it was like that part of his brain didn't work.
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You know, it was sort of like a guy that's great with computers,
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Or a guy who's great with sales, but he can't cook.
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You know, he can't put furniture together, but he's a great salesman.
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Or would it be more like they just couldn't keep women?
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I think a lot of them would struggle to get women.
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I think a lot of them would become bitter that, you know,
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And I think a lot of them, I think it's hard for a lot of these guys,
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to be honest, because I think that they face the most viciousness.
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When they're out at New York City nightclubs, it's tough to get women.
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You know, it's also easy to get women because there's a lot of women,
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So that's like 1 o'clock on a Tuesday, you know, on Spring Street in Soho.
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I'm going up to them, like talking to them, right there in the street.
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And the ones they have were the ladies guys that take the women and go to Eastern Europe.
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And I'm not going to say it, but so they may have viewed that I was trying to do something like that.
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And I would have to be able to get them, get their phone number, and then invite them out to a nightclub.
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Then I'd go pick them up with like a car, take them out to a nice dinner.
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The best restaurants would like, a lot of the best restaurants would compass and take them out.
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So imagine the power of going up with like models from IMG, Ford, Next, and New York.
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You know, these are girls that modeled in Paris, London, New York, Milano, Tokyo.
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And you go to the nightclub, and then you see a table.
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They would put me right next to another table, $5,000, $10,000, $15,000 table.
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That guy spends $15,000, and the girl won't even look at them.
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So they would get attention from women, but it would be very like, the girls were kind of using them, basically.
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The guys that were like bad with chicks, anyways.
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So the Brazilian models, these are all called, this is generalizations, first of all.
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You can't have a conversation about anything without generalizations.
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Yeah, so the Brazilian models would have tension with the Russian models.
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And like, they would have these model apartments, where maybe there's one part of them a Russian, one part of them a Brazilian.
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It's not always exactly like this, but this is a general idea.
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And what I noticed was that the Brazilian models, in general, were much more easygoing, relaxed, more open, whereas the Eastern European models were more traditional.
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But they were also, in that way, like, treat me like a woman.
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You're going to do this, this, this, and this for me.
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And I thought that was more honest than someone that was, even if I didn't like it, I think that that's more honest than saying, I do want X, Y, and Z.
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You know, like, yeah, I'm happy to, you know, have these benefits of being independent.
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But then, but then when the, when the tab comes, I want you to pay.
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So I'd imagine, how old were you when you were doing this?
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So now you can kind of see, like, what happened to them.
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So I'm just curious, do women in the top 20% of beauty tend to get married or do they waste their beauty?
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I will find that a lot of the fashion models that would come out to the nightclubs, after two, three years, a lot of them drop off.
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