Modern Women and STD's： The HI-V and the Herp (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily
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3 hours and 18 minutes
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163.69948
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137
Summary
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage for men. Do we need men? Is it bad for men to get married young? Is it good for women to marry young? What are the benefits of marriage?
Transcript
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Most young men are single, most young women are not.
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Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
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It's a different world now, like we don't need men the way that they used to.
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Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
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A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
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You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
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This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
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You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
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It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
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Now, many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
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One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
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She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
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Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
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74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
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Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
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Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
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I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
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Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
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When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for,
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and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
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I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
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You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
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We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
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Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
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Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
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A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
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Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
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We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
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You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
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I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
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Like, if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic,
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naturally, the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
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Like, women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
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The most important thing is the children, and the problem is we have a modern society
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where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's
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This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?
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Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
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I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
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I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.
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How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
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The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
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The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, to alcohol, three times higher among
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Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
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Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man.
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Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
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If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
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So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
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I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
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I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
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She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
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Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want
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The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
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We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
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This is an existential crisis failing young men.
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And this show, I give my thoughts after interviewing a thousand women and the conclusions that I
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But before we get started, I attempted to make a documentary called What's in it for
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The whole premise of the documentary is that society nags men's behavior.
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They say, men, why are you dropping out of the workforce?
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And I just kept asking the question, well, what do men get out of that?
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And anyways, I tried to, I really tried to put together this documentary, but I faced some
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And one being they demonetized me, kicked me off a million platforms.
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And it's pretty exciting because we just got to $32,000.
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I'm going to log in in a second and I'll show you guys $32,000 for the GoFundMe.
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So I wanted to get a beer before the show today.
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I don't drink much, mostly because I really want to get six pack abs.
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But today I was like, I think I need a beer for this topic because today we're talking about
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But I do think this is an important conversation that people aren't really having when it comes
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A lot of people have STDs out there a lot and odds are there's a woman that you know that
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If they're actively dating and in the sexual marketplace, a lot of people have had them.
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So the stats I've seen said one out of three women have gotten an STD at some point, but a
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So, you know, like from there's like gonorrhea, chlamydia.
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These ones are curable, but the ones that really mess up your life, I guess HIV kills you and
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Let me know what beer you're having in the chat, fellas.
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All right, so women have become sexually liberated and, you know, nothing good really has come
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Modern women honestly believe that they can have sex like men.
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Body counts are on the rise and promiscuity is at an all-time high.
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What comes along with women sleeping around with a lot of men is sexually transmitted diseases.
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Some of these STDs are curable and a lot are not, with the worst being HIV and herpes.
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Men in 2025 have to protect themselves when sleeping with modern women.
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There's a lot of chads out there that, look, they don't care.
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I've interviewed some of these guys that have this stuff.
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Many of them, yeah, we could do a show on HPV a different day.
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All right, so many of these women have diseases and either don't know, don't care, or it's
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And, you know, none of these scenarios are okay.
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Imagine you caught something you could have get rid of from one of these women.
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You know, that's what we're going to talk about in today's show, modern women, HIV, and
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As of 2022, there are 1.2 million people living with HIV.
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It is estimated that 13% of people living with HIV don't know and haven't been tested.
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Men have to be careful when they are sleeping with modern women.
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You can get the high five and have it for life.
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Now, I get a lot of, when we're talking about this topic, everyone will, you know, they'll
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They'll say, what you should be able to tell when a woman has this stuff, I would be able
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But I've interviewed personally, one, two digitally, two people personally, probably five people.
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I've never actually interviewed someone with AIDS, but herpes, that one's more common.
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And I'm telling you, you would not be able to guess.
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Um, okay, so we're going to talk about, oh, no.
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And the thing was, when I interviewed these people, I'm going to, I'm going to do the two
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And basically they both got diagnosed with herpes.
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Now, one of the men decided to do the right thing, so to speak, and tell women before he
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He hadn't had sex in years because it was just too stressful and whatever.
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I'm telling you guys, these, um, and you could argue the guy that got it, he actually
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He was married to his wife and she brought home the gift that, you know, keeps on giving.
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I wouldn't, you wouldn't guess it would be these guys.
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Now, um, even like talking about this stuff, I still feel, I know, like I do a show.
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I chose the topic, but this even makes me feel uncomfortable talking about it.
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That's why I was looking for a beer before this show is because I really want to
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stress to you guys that it's not always the men or the women you think it is.
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Uh, the one guy, he just looked like a standup middle-class white guy.
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The other guy I think was like Puerto Rican middle-class sales dude.
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I mean, you could maybe say like, okay, you couldn't know.
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So now this is a woman that has it and I'll talk about some of the other people I've interviewed.
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When I asked the guys where they got it, the guy who got it from marriage.
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Um, he was raw dog in and then boom, got herpes.
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Um, he said it was the third girl he ever slept with.
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Um, now the other guy, the other guy, um, I interviewed, he also said it was like one
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Um, the P ways I've interviewed about STDs and these are guys that are just running through
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They seem to think, um, that that's impossible.
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You can't get an STD with a condom, um, outside of like chlamydia.
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I'm just telling you what the market's telling me guys.
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Um, so the P ways are saying that guy was capping.
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If you wear a condom, I've run through like a hundred hoes.
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I've gotten nothing because I always strapped up.
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I, I, you know, personally, I've never had a run in with this stuff.
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Um, so I, I can't tell you, do you know what I mean?
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But yeah, I know it's uncomfortable, but this is a big part of the dating market.
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People don't know, you know, that people want to know what their risks are when you're doing
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Um, cause otherwise, you know, people are going to die alone if they're not fucking.
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Um, unless you find like, uh, you know, some girl at the community college, maybe, but anyways.
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But like, look at, does this woman look like she has HIV?
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Before I go on a date with a woman, I'm going to ask for a checkup for HIV.
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Now, maybe you have enough status to demand that, but most women aren't hot enough to demand
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Most men, women aren't going to do all that for.
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So I was monogamously dating somebody just before I met my now husband for two, three months.
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And about a month after getting serious with them, I got a really strange viral reaction.
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Um, it was like mumps, pneumonia, rashes all over my body.
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It was just very strange and no doctor could figure out what it was.
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In hindsight, I now know that that was me being.
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If you get a 22 year old baddie in front of you, do you really think that you, and I'm
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not trying to be pick on you, or I'm really not trying to pick on you, but unless the guys
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in the chat are some sort of celebrity or something, you're not going to have the, the status to
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The girl's just going to tell you to F off, you know?
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Um, yeah, it's hard enough for men to get laid.
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You're telling me that you haven't had sex in a month.
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And there's a 22 year old Latina baddie sitting in front of you.
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Well, I don't want to say, look, I'm just being honest with what I would predict, how I
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I can ask why the PUA guy, because he works with a lot of men.
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And as I was only dating that person at a time, and as I was only dating one person at a time,
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When I did find out that I have HIV, I did contact this person on social media to let them
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know, hey, I think you gave me HIV, if you don't know already, you should probably get
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And it suggested that they already knew that they have HIV and didn't disclose this information
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Luckily for me, as I went from dating this one person to meeting my husband, I haven't been
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And for anyone wondering, my husband is negative, he doesn't have HIV, I did not pass it on to
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But to answer the question, yes, I know who gave me HIV, and it's a bit shit.
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I'm signed in with the Pearl Daily page is all I can get.
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So at this point, I was already with my ex, the guy who...
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Oh, you're saying, oh, he's still married to the girl that gave him herpes?
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But you kind of understand if he was, what's he going to do?
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I knew he was like not faithful to me, but I never thought that he was like not using protection
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At this point, I didn't have any more like symptoms.
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Like I already went through the acute stage where I felt like I was literally going to...
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However, a couple of symptoms persisted even after that, that were a little bit more subtle,
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The first thing that freaked me out really was that I would have a continual yeast infection.
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I know it's kind of gross, but it's the reality of HIV.
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And the continual yeast infection is called thrush.
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I'm not saying that everyone that has thrush has HIV, but thrush is part of the symptoms
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And so like anytime I needed the yeast infection like medication, I would just go to the hood
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So something that I forgot to mention is that the acute stage is basically the stage where
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Once you're done with that phase, you are no longer symptomatic in like very overt ways,
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but you still have certain symptoms that are very subtle.
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Like you have a lot of fatigue, thrush, like yeast infection, like discharge, the whole thing.
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And the second thing that really freaked me out was the fact that it was literally painful
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And so at this point, I was taking clindamycin about like once every two weeks.
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Even though I don't have insurance, I could go to the clinic and get tested and tell them
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The day before I went, I had this sinking feeling in my spirit, like in my gut.
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When you get tested, you know, you do the full panel.
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You only get results for your HIV, like rapid results day of everything else you have to
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Someone comes out and calls my number because they can't say your name.
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They sit me down and they just break it to me like you tested positive for HIV.
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My world literally shattered into a million pieces.
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So that is how I found out that I was HIV positive.
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A lot of people want to know if I confronted my ex after finding out he gave me.
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Small group of men are banging a lot of the women.
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So a few chads are spreading it around and the women are spreading it about.
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And the reason I want to talk about this is because I want to make two things clear.
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And out of the people I've interviewed, I also, I know somebody that dated a girl and
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he went on a date with her and she told him that she had the, the herp, you know, and
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And then do you know what she did after she proceeded to lie to men about it?
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I, you know, this is someone, this isn't someone I know, but this is a story I heard from somebody
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And my point in this is, you know, from a, we got to look at the incentives here.
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Pragmatically, there's no reason for them to be honest.
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If medical records are sealed, you have no way of proving it was them.
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Um, and this is like the, I've interviewed some, not HIV, but herp.
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I've interviewed people that have it and their thought processes.
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They can't prove I gave it to them because most people don't get tested for every single
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Like it's like once every two years or a year is the average.
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Um, and if I tell them the truth, I stopped getting sex.
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It's obviously the wrong thing to do, but what would be the incentive to be honest?
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Seriously, seriously, guys, what, why would they be honest?
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You can't like, they don't always have active outbreaks.
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And the answer is yes, but not in the way that you guys might expect man was like a
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When you test positive at the clinic, they ask you for your list of partners.
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Mind you, I had gotten tested the day before I met him and I tested negative for everything.
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They put me on antiretrovirals and they take my blood and send it out to the lab.
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Sometimes people do have false positives, meaning that they test positive for HIV, but they're
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Did y'all see the video of my acute stage symptoms?
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So they tell me not to tell him anything until I get the confirmatory results, but I just
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The entire ride to his crib, I was literally trembling.
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I don't really remember a guy gave it to her or her girlfriend.
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And I'm not saying it's right, but a lot of these people feel like, okay, somebody lied
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I'm on the edge of his bed and I look at him in the eyes and I'm like, tested positive
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It's like, listen, I don't want to talk about this negativity, okay?
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Whatever you got going on is what you got going on.
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Oh my gosh, this guy that gave her HIV told her not to bring that negativity to him when
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He gave you HIV and then gaslight you and said, don't bring that negativity to me when
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Like I mentioned in the last video, I knew he was unfaithful to me, but like, I never
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And honestly, he was a master manipulator, so it didn't make a difference whether that
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was proof or not, because I was not ready to leave him.
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However, I did not catch HIV because he was cheating on me, child.
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The reason that I brought that up is because in my mind, I was like, yeah, you know, he's
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cheating on me, but he's not out there having unprotected...
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He was probably cheating with a dude, to be honest.
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That's how a lot of HIV gets into the dating pool.
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By the way, guys, the best way to get something is anal.
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Talk to a doctor about this, you know, as I was prepping for this show a while back.
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I'm a little uncomfortable talking about this, but somebody's got to do it.
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The sex with women, because that would mean that he intentionally infected me.
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He begs me to come to his place and he's slapping his cologne, putting on his shoes.
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I'm going to go to a party at Hofstra University.
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Mind you, this man was 37 years old at the time.
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Doesn't come back until the next day at around like 2 or 3 p.m.
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And then a few days later, both of us have separate trips.
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Before my trip, my vagina starts feeling weird.
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She tells me to immediately come in so that I can get tested.
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She has been begging me since August to report him.
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Because he could reinfect me with a totally different strain of HIV.
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And my heart is literally exposed and broken into a thousand pieces.
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But because at that moment, I realized that he intentionally infected me with HIV.
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And if you don't know this, the number one STDs on college campuses is chlamydia.
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So this all went down around the first week of October.
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And he was actually going to Miami Carnival that weekend.
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The hardest part of my HIV diagnosis was actually leaving the person that infected me.
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After a few days, I finally had the courage to report him to the Department of Health.
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But honestly, it didn't even matter because come to find out, that wasn't even his real name.
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I'm currently locked out of my Twitter right now, by the way.
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I don't know how we're still able to stream from it.
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So don't buy the Bitcoin they're trying to sell.
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But the consensus from people was that I remember I polled people on if they've had an STD, what was it?
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It seems like chlamydia is the most common one.
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Even the PUA's I've interviewed said that's the one you might get even with a condom.
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But then again, it's like, are they going to tell me if they caught herpes?
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I don't know if people are going to tell me that when I'm doing my research.
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And that's why I need you guys to call in because you guys can call in anonymously and you can you could give me, you know, because here's the problem with the STD stats.
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Remember, they always lie to make society always lies to make women feel better.
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So if the data is saying women are whores, they might downplay it.
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So all the stats I'm telling you, just assume it's worse.
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I would really just, I would just assume it's worse than what we're reading.
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Each IV positive after noticing strange spots on my body and experiencing high fevers.
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It all started after a night out with my friend.
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I remember drinking a lot, way more than I should have.
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Things got so out of hand that I completely lost control of what I was doing.
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My friend tried to get me home safely, but we...
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You said we're going to have to use the camera soon.
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This show is going to be pretty anonymous, all right?
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I stayed at the party with some other friends and eventually met this guy.
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Okay, so does this look like a guy that's going to give you HIV?
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Last thing I remember was dancing and having a great time.
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The next morning, I woke up in his bed, confused and unable to...
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I left before he woke up, brushing it off like it was no big deal.
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I thought that night wouldn't have any consequences.
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But a month later, I started losing a lot of weight.
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And noticed strange spots appearing on my skin.
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If she had any thoughts, she may have contracted early on.
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Has to be within 24 hours, but no later than 72 hours.
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Terrible feeling about what might have happened that night.
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It'd be great to talk to someone with HIV because I don't know anybody with that.
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Again, I'm getting a sick feeling in my stomach.
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so if you have vaginal sex with a woman if you're a woman and you have sex with a guy that has it
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it says one and one thousand two hundred and fifty
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and if you're the guy putting it in a girl it's one in 2500 but it does increase if there's blood involved so if you're hooking up with a girl on her period doing backdoor stuff if you're just a big guy catch my drift there's blood or if you have other STIs oral sex it says extremely low the risk is not negligible
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the risk is not negligible but not zero slightly higher if there's ejaculation sores or bleeding gums again condoms reduce the risk by 80 to 90 percent if a if the HIV plus partner is on ART and undefected
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the risk is pretty low that's what I've heard I've heard that from medical professionals on shows too again we're in a gynocentric social order we're all sifting through this shit here everybody's selling something I don't know if you have a
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all right ladies uhm if you have sex with a guy with herpes uhm you have a 1 in 10 chances of getting it if the partner has HSV 2 no condome and is shedding so if you have sex
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with a guy that is has his viral shedding which happens 20% of the year there's a one in chance
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10 chance you get it if he's like and there's no condom men it's a one in 20 to 30 if you're
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banging a girl with herpes you got a one in 20 to 30 one in 20 to 30 times you'll get it
01:01:30.620
her hsv2 sheds more frequently than hsv1 hsv2 is genital herpes hsv1 is cold sores
01:01:39.320
oral sex is lower than vaginal but hsv1 can transmit to genitals and vice versa so if the
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girl gets cold sores she can put that on your on your you know stuff if she's been you know
01:01:53.480
um and it's similar um for the male hsv1 is the main cause of genital herpes from oral sex
01:02:02.220
oh didn't know that okay condoms reduce herpes risk by 30 to 50 percent herpes can be transmitted even
01:02:11.420
when no symptoms are present daily anti antiviral meds can reduce transmission risk um significantly
01:02:18.920
i have heard that some guys will take that before a date to reduce the risk i don't know
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if that works for someone that doesn't have it i'm not a medical professional maybe doug mpa can dig into
01:02:31.120
that um all right but basically the it's saying that um herpes it three to ten percent chance of
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catching it if he's shedding and no condom it's i don't know why it's saying hiv is so low it's saying
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you're very unlikely to get that i don't i don't know why um okay um it says risk reduction tips use
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condoms or dental dams ask their partner if they've been tested avoid sex if there are any visible sores
01:03:06.560
or symptoms for hiv ask about art use and viral load for herpes ask about antivirals um all right
01:03:16.700
if you'd like i can calculate your estimated risk if you've had multiple encounters or break it down
01:03:22.280
by specific scenarios it for example if you're in a six month sexual relationship with one partner who
01:03:29.020
has hiv or herpes and you always use condoms your chance of getting infected depends on how often you
01:03:34.980
of sex whether your partner is taking treatment whether the virus is active or shedding for herpes
01:03:40.380
and how consistent your condom uses so let's assume uh vaginal sex is two to three times per week for
01:03:47.800
six months so you have about 60 acts of sex condoms are used every time and the partner is either hiv
01:03:54.740
positive or hsv um and you are hiv negative and hsv negative at the start um the receptive female
01:04:03.140
it says for hiv it's one in a hundred thousand and one in two hundred and fifty thousand um those are
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the odds with 60 uh protected acts oh so it's for each one it's per act but if you do it 60 times
01:04:20.920
your odds are one in four thousand one hundred and sixty seven as a guy and one in six thousand six
01:04:27.440
hundred sixty seven as a girl john my ex-wife gave me chlamydia the only one i've ever been with
01:04:32.920
if we're divorced now yeah sometimes it's just an l it says if the hiv partner is on art and
01:04:39.680
undetectable the risk is near zero now the herpes risk over six months with condoms um so male to
01:04:47.980
female so if a man's having sex or male to man giving it to women four to five percent ladies so um if
01:04:58.460
you're just using a condom and no medication four to five percent are going to catch it women to men
01:05:04.100
um women giving it to men two to three percent are going to get it within six months um it actually
01:05:10.340
would be interesting to see how that extrapolates over like ten years in six months um the male risk is
01:05:17.260
1.5 percent and the female risk is 2.5 percent will get it if the hsv plus partner is on daily
01:05:27.400
antiviral medication the risk drops by 50 percent if the partner has hsv1 generally risk may be lower
01:05:34.960
due to less frequent shedding oral sex um adds additional but lower um hsv1 transmission risk
01:05:43.420
especially if the hsv plus partner gets cold stores um all right the summary is that for a man if
01:05:53.440
you're if you're banging a girl one in four thousand for h i hiv and one in 67 for herpes those are your
01:06:01.000
chances for a woman one in six that one thou one in one thousand six hundred sixty seven if the dude's
01:06:07.740
got hiv if you're banging for six months three times a week and the woman is one in 40.
01:06:15.900
um and it's a higher risk due to shedding antivirals help
01:06:22.260
uh to lower the risk have your partner get tested and treated um avoids having sex during herpes
01:06:27.960
outbreaks consider preep for hip hiv negative partners if you want to model um different sexual
01:06:37.320
activity levels let me know okay okay yeah now we're done all right so um now that we're talking
01:06:46.020
about this i want to know you guys's experience um do you have hiv or herpes call in it's all anonymous
01:06:54.060
so um we're just gonna have cameras off today um have you gone on a date and had somebody tell you
01:07:04.000
have you ever been getting to know someone they say i have hiv or herpes um and how long did it take
01:07:15.420
you to tell somebody and what did you do or for them to tell you and would hiv and herpes be a deal
01:07:23.940
breaker for me personally um that would just you know it's just one of those things that if you don't
01:07:31.400
got it you don't want it i get really tired of the herpes people with the cold sores saying everyone's
01:07:37.920
got cold sores because i'm like i've never had a cold sore in my life i don't even want that one
01:07:42.540
no thank you i'm good i am i am i am no thank you all right but let's let's go to doug mpa um thanks for
01:07:53.700
torturing yourself through this topic it's a tough one but i do think it's important so yeah you know
01:08:00.480
if half the if half the we got to think of the math here if half the population of women has it
01:08:05.720
if it's attractive women it might be even higher yeah yeah i'd say six is in above it's probably 80
01:08:12.380
80 gross um so this is this is a big part of dating nowadays so you know have you have you come
01:08:23.820
across it in the dating market what's been your experience yeah you know i actually i've there
01:08:30.820
was a time where i was trying to actively date b-dubs and uh one of them you know we were talking
01:08:36.900
for a little bit online we met online and you know two three weeks whatever and we went out on one
01:08:42.260
date and then i actually went on a work trip for my day job so we're talking when i get back to the
01:08:48.740
hotel we're talking whatever and it was to the point where the day before i was going to come back it's
01:08:53.140
like all right when i come back we're going to go on a date and we're going to smash right
01:08:55.820
but she's like yeah i just want you to know that um i may have herpes i said what's this you may
01:09:03.800
have herpes she's like well i took a test and it was it was inconclusive
01:09:07.380
i said wait what what do you mean inconclusive she's like oh yeah it was inconclusive yeah i never
01:09:17.280
talked to her again after that you're lucky she told you huh you're lucky she told you yeah i am
01:09:23.840
and then one of my friends went out with another b-dub and they were just about to get it on
01:09:30.960
and this girl was beautiful too and uh she had a little pamphlet that that um you know they were
01:09:40.860
on the couch and stuff and she pulled a pamphlet out of her purse it was like i have genital herpes
01:09:48.080
but it's not the worst thing in the world and blah blah so she created this whole pamphlet
01:09:53.520
and handed it to him and i expected him to be like read it and say okay yeah he was like
01:09:59.300
get the hell up out of my house i'm gonna have to watch my watch my couch cushion now get out of
01:10:07.760
here and then she tried to call him and say now that you've calmed down you know i hope you
01:10:14.040
she kept trying to call him and then after a couple days she's like i know you've calmed down
01:10:21.260
and i'm willing to give you a second chance she's like a second chance just disgusting but once again
01:10:27.240
at least she told him i get yeah i'm telling you interview when i was interviewing these people i
01:10:33.540
think i showed you a voice note one of them sent or maybe i don't remember if i did but like
01:10:38.260
the pit i got in my stomach i was like oh my god like i was like oh my god they do not care they
01:10:47.180
just spread it around yeah you're lucky because a lot like i i said the story earlier there was a
01:10:55.980
someone i know went on a date with someone with a girl and she told him but because it didn't work
01:11:02.540
out with him she never told the guy again and then she got married two years later because she just
01:11:09.980
started lying you know what i mean like she tried telling the truth it didn't get her what she wanted
01:11:14.380
so she said fuck it i'm gonna lie now she's married now so because i think that people with
01:11:21.580
stds should tell the person and because what's worse them lying because a lie of omission is still a lie
01:11:32.860
you know what i'm saying yeah but you could say should but it doesn't matter yeah like they're like
01:11:38.460
like like do you know what i mean that's like a wish list they're not going to because it doesn't
01:11:43.340
give them the outcomes they want it doesn't give the guys sex it doesn't give the girls relationships
01:11:48.540
and the way they view it is actually let me look how often do people get tested how often do people
01:11:56.220
get not often enough that's how stds um i'm gonna say on average let's see
01:12:09.020
uh it keeps telling me should i want to know how often people do well if i had to guess people get
01:12:14.460
tested like once every two years maybe on average i don't think that's enough but if i had to what
01:12:22.300
would you guess it is just anecdotally ask that again i'm sorry i had to block this king guy in the
01:12:27.980
chat because he is i made steve m a moderator he's legit he's a great moderator guys and if you come
01:12:36.620
at him come on now guys calm it down no caps no curse words because remember pearl's channel is a
01:12:45.340
red pill channel it just gotten re-monetized it's probably still on some watch lists somewhere so
01:12:50.940
youtube censors her chat based upon certain things so just follow the rules please i'm sorry go ahead pearl
01:12:57.180
how often because i keep googling this and it says how often people should get tested how often do
01:13:04.140
you think people do get tested like what's your just like being in the field experience if you have to
01:13:10.700
guess well because i know people that just don't don't even go to the doctor so i'd say maybe once
01:13:18.060
every two years that's what i that's i said the same thing for a guess so like a guy that's sexually
01:13:23.740
active how many girls is he running through a year would you say a guy actively dating like in the
01:13:29.340
dating market so a guy that's in the top 30 20 percent yeah i'd say he's smashing 15 15 women a year
01:13:40.380
okay at least how is who is he going to be mad at he he he tests positive after two years he's got 30
01:13:48.140
women he's going to call um and women let's let's say it's the same numbers i don't think it is it's
01:13:55.580
probably higher for women but let's say women it's 30 guys two years same thing uh so i think that
01:14:04.780
i think that he just can test positive i don't even think he's going to reach back out to anybody i
01:14:09.980
think that women are more likely to reach back out to the men than the men are to reach back out to the
01:14:14.700
women if they're dating right but that's my point is like the incentive for people to be honest isn't
01:14:21.100
there because by the time yeah by the time they get tested they can't prove who gave it and that's
01:14:27.020
exactly like one of the people i interviewed that's what he told me he said well they're sleeping with
01:14:31.900
multiple guys like the reasoning he said he said well the girls don't even ask they don't even ask to
01:14:37.500
put on a condom so if they don't care about their health why should i and and here's the thing uh
01:14:44.460
from what i've read men get more immediate symptoms than women do women can go years without getting
01:14:50.860
symptoms i don't i've never interviewed everyone i interviewed was a guy but one of them infected he's
01:15:01.340
had long-term people that he's infected and he said they got it pretty quick like he said they got
01:15:11.180
symptoms pretty quick when they got it that was what he said i know it makes you like feel sick but
01:15:17.660
they like i'm telling you they don't care should is like a waste of time they don't care yeah like
01:15:22.780
because like the way yeah the way the way they're gonna view it is like i'm you're killing my sex life
01:15:28.780
and i'm not gonna do it so yeah some people are out here man just doing damage right but when they
01:15:37.580
get the positive results after two years it's like who are they gonna call yeah nobody so there's no
01:15:44.540
accountability go ahead the way that the sex life was what did you think was gonna happen
01:15:51.100
well some of them die i'm telling you like a good amount of the guys got it from wives that i interviewed
01:15:57.180
i'd say half yeah i would imagine that because i honestly believe in marriages women cheat far more
01:16:04.780
than men yeah like two of the guys i would say were man whores two of them got it from one was a girlfriend
01:16:12.380
that he was with for a while one was a wife um my dolls and drugs are disease-free and they don't cheat
01:16:18.380
oh eric with the dog i mean he has a point there eric you are not helping me with the incel audience
01:16:31.020
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01:16:41.980
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01:17:01.020
and thanks for those in the audacity chat i actually had to boot fazelle from the audacity chat today
01:17:07.420
fazelle if you're listening you can't be acting up like that man you can come on tomorrow but you
01:17:14.780
can't be calling people names and f-bombs and be intentionally incendiary man you you've been a
01:17:20.700
long time supporter but you can't be rolling like that okay all right so we're gonna bring up the next
01:17:26.860
i'd i'm also might ask you guys how often you get tested just out of curiosity okay so i see some new
01:17:35.660
names so let's bring some new names in here uh akshay are you there uh hi there hi how are you good how
01:17:47.020
are you yeah i'm good thank you just saw the the thing and it just found it interesting so yeah all
01:17:53.020
right so my guys when it rains here my audio is kind of bad so i'm gonna have them mute me after i ask
01:18:01.500
the question just to make the audio a little better um can can you get can you hear doug i'm assuming
01:18:08.540
you can it you can bear oh you can barely hear it we can't hear on the zoom we can barely hear on
01:18:15.820
youtube oh okay then i might leave so okay well what's your um so what's your experience did you catch
01:18:23.020
an std or do you know someone that has one uh sorry i didn't catch one no i'm sorry i just tuned
01:18:31.580
into the show uh no all right buddy sorry oh did he not people just like walk in i can't i'm no yeah
01:18:43.180
guys don't don't call it i i said this earlier but call in if you have a story either you or someone you
01:18:49.820
know you know you know yeah christopher sorry yeah hey chris i can't good evening i'm making sure
01:19:01.740
you hear the youtube in the background so you have to turn the youtube off that's earlier but call in
01:19:06.460
if you have a story either you or someone you know you know yeah okay i don't have a story i have a
01:19:13.180
question chris you're listening to youtube you have to turn the youtube off here uh could you
01:19:20.380
yeah i know huh guys if i come into the 21st century guys come on now if i okay if i say
01:19:29.740
call in if you have a story and you come on and you say but i have a question
01:19:35.180
you know i love you guys but it's just i'm trying to run a show here okay so if nobody wants to call in
01:19:43.180
and tell me their std story i understand i really do um but yeah all right okay is someone else on
01:19:51.820
or no let's let's get in a good mood we're gonna admit probably our favorite guest i know on the show
01:20:00.460
we know he has some stuff to say about this dustin what's up yo
01:20:10.060
dude i'm not having an outbreak can i have my video on yeah oh my god all right
01:20:18.220
i'm just kidding i don't have anything i don't have anything it's all right i'm not contagious
01:20:22.060
so enlighten us was you know who has gotten the herped up the herp dirt or the high five
01:20:31.900
well okay who do i i knew i actually i worked with this girl who had it that's what you asked right
01:20:40.780
yeah but there was a girl named all right so wow almost let us slip but uh i remember
01:20:49.340
you know in the service industry they got this thing called an early out like if it's slow
01:20:53.660
so this this girl she goes on a date with this guy and she comes to work and she's like
01:21:01.580
really freaking out uh like a week later and it comes time for eo and we have guests at the bar
01:21:08.380
and she goes well shouldn't i get the eo because i just found out i have herpes and she said it so
01:21:13.420
loud and uh yeah it was wild and then um i actually when i was bartending at this casino
01:21:23.020
one of the guys i worked with and you're right you would never know that he had hiv but um he
01:21:31.100
he ended up telling me about it and uh like how he got it and he actually spread it to his wife but
01:21:38.380
he didn't know he had it for um a long time they went on a vacation like a year into their marriage
01:21:46.060
and uh he got really sick on the vacation and almost died and ended up spreading it to her
01:21:54.140
unbeknownst to her and uh it was like it was really sad it it's very sad when someone tells you they
01:21:59.980
have it uh obviously um but uh he seemed pretty at peace with it and he would tell me that with all
01:22:09.500
these new pills and stuff he just goes in raw dogs and chicks just like he did before so oh my god
01:22:18.300
i'm not saying it's right but uh well yeah you like yeah go ahead uh i was just thinking about
01:22:26.780
because i've always been real afraid of stds because i don't i don't it's not that i don't
01:22:30.780
i'm just too lazy i don't i don't want to be proactive about rubbers you know i'm just like
01:22:39.340
i just put it wherever it wants to go and uh like i just think about it do you know how the gender
01:22:47.900
pay gap how that figure is gotten it's kind of like how they get the std figure because you may
01:22:54.700
sure one in five people have an std but i've done shag 12 of my friends and i never got an std
01:23:01.500
i wouldn't get tested so i was like statistically that's not right you know but um yeah but you
01:23:07.980
don't it's also based on your immune system so you might have a strong immune system yeah i got that
01:23:14.060
i got that jewish blood in me i'm immune wait so um the guy that had it um did he
01:23:25.180
how did he get it did he tell you and was he just he was banging other girls while he was married
01:23:29.420
i'm guessing and did he ever spread it like did he ever have that problem where they called him and
01:23:34.460
said they got it go ahead so he got it because he was also doing drugs uh he was doing hard stuff um
01:23:43.340
because he had a lot of depression his brother committed suicide and started doing heroin and
01:23:51.420
he was doing that outside of seeing his wife and that's how he he contracted it and he spread it
01:23:58.060
to his wife he wasn't unfaithful and um that's one thing that because i did i met a uh like
01:24:07.500
i digged down this chick in new york city and after i talked to her for a bit she told me her best friend
01:24:12.940
had hiv and i got really afraid because i didn't use i didn't wrap it up so like i broke up i went
01:24:19.500
to her work like a week later i broke up with her and she's like why i said i think like i i said
01:24:25.420
something really rude but you know and um people don't when people have it they don't tell you this
01:24:31.580
crazy life they usually live before they contracted something that serious like herpes is another thing
01:24:38.300
you know you can get that that's that's something that's real scary but uh hiv i don't if people went
01:24:44.380
into their backstory you would be like wow no wonder you got it you know yeah i've never met anyone with
01:24:50.780
hiv i've met people with herpes but not hiv like not personally anyways um the people that you've met
01:24:59.180
with herpes were they sexually promiscuous or were they just like um um uh oh wait actually i do know
01:25:08.620
one girl that has it the girl just uh she dated a chad he had it um the she actually had only been with
01:25:16.940
like one maybe two guys like she was pretty young when she got it um the guy um he was promiscuous but
01:25:28.140
he got it pretty early on like maybe like he actually kind of reminds me of you a little bit
01:25:34.860
like his attitude he's a good guy yeah he's a yeah but like early on he got it um one guy was married
01:25:45.740
he got it from his wife he wasn't promiscuous so i don't know anyone with hiv though the the girl
01:25:53.260
though that got it did she lie going forward or did she because she was obviously really honest there
01:26:00.220
oh no she didn't she actually just started like she got it she said that stupid thing at work
01:26:08.860
she didn't work for a week she came back and then she started dating another bartender it was
01:26:13.980
there you go i was just about to ask because i'm telling you some guys and some girls they don't give
01:26:18.860
an f man they just dive right in with both feet anyway yeah but so the guy had the guy had to know
01:26:26.780
right oh he knew he knew but uh i i think that once you say oh i have this drug that stops my outbreak
01:26:41.020
so as long as you don't see it we don't gotta worry about it i think if a girl says something like that
01:26:47.420
a guy's gonna be like hey sign me up you know um would it be a deal breaker for you
01:27:14.540
i'd make out with a chick that had hiv on new year's you know if she needed that like a kiss
01:27:20.460
and no one else would kiss her at night i'd give her a beer
01:27:24.380
um like it was herpes i would and she got she'd have to be bad but you know 34 and i gotta live with
01:27:33.660
it for just a little bit longer you know it might be worth it i'd have to
01:27:38.700
uh like margot robbie at 21 i would i'd even ask for and get herpes on that you know but
01:27:52.620
i'm probably not gonna do it i you know i'm i'm at the point because i'm in my 40s if i
01:27:58.940
because i was telling pro this if i met a girl because you know i like tall women so she was like
01:28:03.340
5'10 5'9 you know you know crossed a bunch of the boxes off and all she had was like
01:28:10.220
cold sores on her mouth or something i mean i could probably deal with that only because
01:28:15.260
one of my friends was married to her husband for like 15 years and he he got cold sores when he was
01:28:21.340
a kid and they were married for 15 years and she never got it so um but once again that would just
01:28:29.260
happen she'd have to be like you know a seven or above and have a lot of traditional values and
01:28:34.540
stuff like that but um yeah yeah the high five no way and then genital hsb herpes and the heck no
01:28:43.180
no way i don't even i don't even think i'd risk cold sores like those look painful
01:28:49.500
like i don't know i've never had i've never i don't really like canker sores you know the stuff
01:28:55.500
you get when you eat too much sugar oh and i'm like cold sore those look worse i'm like i don't
01:29:01.180
know if i'd risk that all right all right decimu we're gonna have to cut it a little short tonight
01:29:08.380
because we have a full range of callers but thanks for calling in we have a lot of callers yeah we do
01:29:13.740
have a good one guys all right see ya i was here talking to you buddy yeah okay i'm gonna try
01:29:21.020
christopher again be ready man christopher yeah good evening how's it going chris
01:29:33.340
yeah good okay thanks okay what you got for me you got did you get an std or do you know someone that has
01:29:41.740
one or um or or or are either other two that we talked about a deal breaker for you what do you got
01:29:50.620
okay so with on on the std front okay so i just i just did some reading on herpes and what it actually
01:30:04.540
does to like the like during pregnancy so it's it's like pretty severe right the the chances of like
01:30:20.220
the mother transferring the con the infection to the baby is not it's it's quite high
01:30:30.540
but it's not like 100 um kind of guaranteed that it would transfer that's the first thing
01:30:44.140
that i've got from the ai overview so um yeah obviously i'm not i'm not saying like it doesn't
01:30:54.380
it shouldn't it it shouldn't affect like people's choices but that's just what i'm reading okay what
01:31:01.420
about you personally me personally i do i have herpes i don't i don't think so no like i know i get cold
01:31:10.300
sores but like no i don't have like i went i went recently to an std clinic um about a month ago
01:31:21.580
and yeah i got like the whole kind of like um how often how often do you get tested
01:31:46.780
um is our have you ever been dating a woman and she said oh just so you know i've got the herp dirt
01:31:57.020
or i have hiv yeah yeah and yeah and that was the end of the uh relationship was it would you have
01:32:03.980
guessed like did she look like she might have had an std did she look really promiscuous or what
01:32:09.580
no she just no she just yeah she just had a cold sore and then i was like i just asked about it
01:32:19.740
and then i was like yeah okay well did she have genital herpes too or just the i don't know i don't
01:32:26.460
know i didn't go there oh you were like not you were you were the cold sore wasn't that but if you get
01:32:31.820
cold sores i think that means you have the first one so what is that is that yeah i'm like pretty
01:32:37.580
i'm not there's well there's yeah there's hs yeah there's hsv1 and hsv2 hsv2 is the bad one where
01:32:46.380
you get a it's it's a bunch of stuff yeah you don't want hsv2 hsv1 it's a sad part about it they
01:32:53.580
say like by the time you're 45 like 70 to 80 percent of people have like hsv have cold sores or something
01:33:01.420
like that oh my god right god in the west god willing i just i've never had one and they look
01:33:09.580
painful yeah so okay um okay what you said i'm a little confused because i'm looking at what i'm
01:33:23.020
reading on chat gpt is it says it's not that likely the kid will get herpes i don't i don't know i'm
01:33:31.740
not like i don't know like it's saying it's only if she's in an active infection
01:33:39.980
right and what and how often does that happen occur it's like 20 of the year but they can take drugs to
01:33:46.300
suppress it i don't know though i'm not a doctor this is the the problem is this topic it's like
01:33:55.660
people like they coddle women so much they don't really give us the information so it's all coddled
01:34:07.420
women are still seen as the the victims of this whole thing when there are women that are normally
01:34:12.620
spreading it or or come on guys like come on ladies if you're with a a gab in the starving
01:34:21.980
musician or a gloctavius come on man just just assume they have it and don't mess with the guy
01:34:27.260
you know what i'm saying but women do it anyway yeah yeah all right i mean really like yeah i mean if
01:34:36.220
if i was gonna like make the law then i would be like that should be a kind of
01:34:42.140
punishable offense because you can't medical records like yeah people people have yeah people
01:34:48.940
have the right to like keep medical records private because yeah okay so like confidentiality yeah right
01:34:56.780
and yeah but okay yeah i'm just i i agree with you but i'm just i'm just being honest about this
01:35:04.940
there are some states that the california has a thing where if you normally give someone hiv
01:35:09.580
you you could charge them with a crime so you you're starting to see more and more states like
01:35:14.380
that yeah well yeah no i think yeah that i mean yeah that that makes sense and like to be honest like
01:35:22.380
i just think that if like it's it's it's like i guess it's there's there's some kind of like
01:35:31.900
gray area or that that it's i guess the people have like the right to
01:35:40.300
privacy i guess but um i just don't i just don't i just don't think in like if you're gonna kind of
01:35:48.060
like think about like evolving the human race right and trying to make sure that like certain things don't
01:35:56.060
get it it just it does yeah i know it just it doesn't matter it doesn't like it doesn't matter
01:36:01.340
what you think because like women aren't gonna let it happen uh we're gonna go on to the next caller
01:36:06.860
but thanks for calling in okay okay all right cheers bye
01:36:12.140
i just sorry i just didn't want to go down the route of like it shouldn't be i mean you know
01:36:22.220
how it is it's like it doesn't matter bad luck are you there yes sir bad luck is that bad luck because
01:36:30.300
you got it yeah i have to you know at least try to make fun of it yeah okay um so how did you catch it
01:36:43.340
uh it's a bit of an unfortunate uh event but basically uh i was i was a virgin married this girl
01:36:53.660
girl she didn't say uh and then all of a sudden you know surprise surprise surprise surprise you you
01:37:02.700
got which one ah i so according to the tests i have both of them but uh i only had like blisters uh
01:37:12.460
like on the you know basically on the genitals wow so you got both from and so you were a virgin
01:37:21.420
until you got married yep wow and are you guys still married or no no and what have you done in
01:37:31.180
like your dating life now do you like tell the women or what do you uh i i kind of tried talking
01:37:39.820
to some other women after that and then like i remember uh dating one canadian girl in particular
01:37:48.060
and she was just like oh yeah i love you this and that and then when i told her she was basically
01:37:52.060
like gagging and she like she said it was like disgusting or whatever and i'm like okay cool you
01:37:57.500
know uh so were you guys hooking up at that point no no no and before anything happened i just let her
01:38:05.820
know and and she was you know she acted completely like disgusted by it so uh and then then she came
01:38:14.060
back around and then she was just like you know she was trying to be nice about it and i was just
01:38:17.660
like okay uh you know and it's just kind of like discourages you from tell talking to anybody and
01:38:22.700
telling anything to anybody that's basically what happens and have you tried like dating sites for
01:38:29.340
people that have it because that's something you've tried no not really okay is it something you want
01:38:36.460
to try or not like how long have you had it for uh probably i want to say since maybe like 2013 or
01:38:45.980
something like that and i'm just curious how much does it affect your life like the blisters how
01:38:52.140
often are they and like how bad would you say it is like the h like for both the symptoms um
01:38:59.100
um so but when i first got it it was kind of often um it was they're extremely painful and they take a
01:39:08.620
long time to heal so it's a very uncomfortable experience um and you know you just try to
01:39:16.620
basically get your best to keep it like clean and dry because you know that stuff like spreads basically
01:39:22.620
so you know um and then after that it's just like it just becomes way less often it's just less often
01:39:30.540
and less often to the point that now it's like i haven't had it in years yeah that's what i've heard
01:39:35.340
from the other guys i've interviewed too um do you think that like if you were to hook up with somebody
01:39:43.980
they would be able to tell you had it like do you think it's easy to identify like if you're in an outbreak
01:39:49.420
or like or not go ahead uh yeah i mean i guess if uh if if if there's a visible sign then yeah but
01:39:58.860
honestly no i couldn't tell you know if somebody's lying about it and they don't have anything visible
01:40:04.620
then it's like impossible to tell and what about your wife like you didn't notice any like blistering
01:40:10.620
when you guys were married and like how long were you married till you got it like how long were you
01:40:15.740
hooking up till you got it uh probably a year and a half or something like that maybe less
01:40:23.900
a year year and a half yeah and was she taking medication or no no not that she didn't say she
01:40:30.860
acted like she didn't know you know she was just lying through her teeth the entire time so
01:40:35.500
uh i never noticed anything she never said anything so you know sounds about right
01:40:43.020
so that's that's how it is and for hiv is it likely that you will die from that someday like
01:40:50.540
based on the technology now now people live with that stuff until old age i had an uncle that had it and
01:40:58.540
you know he just lived until all age basically died from something else he said he said that he has
01:41:05.580
both versions of of hsv herpes not not hiv oh i'm sorry i misheard you i thought yeah hiv and there's
01:41:14.780
two i was like damn damn it's a double homicide like so are you are you in um are you in the south are
01:41:25.980
you in like texas or new mexico or something like that no i'm in the south yes yeah so uh i was um
01:41:33.980
i lived in san antonio for for a couple of years and there's this lady that was on the news
01:41:40.700
and she got uh hiv sleeping with a random man wow and so she would go to and she was very attractive
01:41:50.300
too she'd go to the airport and like a a little black dress or like a little red dress and just
01:41:56.220
sit at at the high-end bar at the airport and then just get hit on by some guy that was traveling and
01:42:03.020
sleep with the guy raw and then just keep it going yeah and she'd do that every single weekend and she
01:42:09.500
she's been arrested multiple times for it but she just keeps doing it she's like yes someone gave it to
01:42:15.260
me so i'm gonna give it to as many people yes so she just she'll sit there at the bar at the airport
01:42:20.140
let guys pick her up take her home and then do it raw and there are some very twisted people out there
01:42:28.300
what did your wife do after was she able to get remarried again oh yeah yeah so she was basically
01:42:36.620
yeah it's just you know she was she was cheating on me uh that's why i left her
01:42:40.860
um and then she married the guy that she was cheating on me with and she had a kid with him
01:42:46.940
too oh yep and do you know anyone else who has it you said your uncle has it and i'm i'm just curious
01:42:57.260
if the people when you brought up like hivs that's what my uncle had okay i was just curious does he tell
01:43:05.100
people about it or does he lie honestly i don't know to be honest with you because
01:43:14.060
i mean he told me i remember he like the family knew but i don't know if like he told people he
01:43:20.700
dated i'm not really sure i was never like into like his business like that but you know fortunately
01:43:26.060
he passed away uh you know he's not around anymore so i couldn't tell you um and when's
01:43:34.220
the last time you had an outbreak you said it's been years oh yeah it's been years i don't even
01:43:38.780
remember when was the last time to be honest with you how many bad years do you have to endure before
01:43:44.140
it like gets to that you said in the beginning like in the beginning is it every other month like
01:43:48.620
how often do you get it shoot it's been a long time i'm trying to remember it was it was probably
01:43:56.060
like uh if i had to guess because i don't remember it's been so long it was probably like maybe like
01:44:03.740
every like two three months or something like that it was you know like i said it was very annoying and
01:44:08.860
then then it's just like it's just less like less frequent less frequent less frequent until then it
01:44:15.340
gets to like once or twice a year and then it's just like right now it's like i said it's been years
01:44:22.060
and would you say it killed your dating life like you basically had no dating life after 100 yeah it's
01:44:28.860
just you know like i said i try to be honest to you know like with the way that chick reacted it was just
01:44:33.980
like enough for me to like this you know i'm just way too uh embarrassed about it just put it that way
01:44:41.180
well there's a lot of girls with it nowadays you know yeah um all right um doug mp you got any other
01:44:51.100
questions for him well that's it really appreciate you sharing your story buddy thanks for calling in
01:44:56.780
yeah thanks for calling in all right yeah guys have a good one cool all right i'm gonna bring up
01:45:04.380
another name another new name and then we can go back to some of the ogs real fast
01:45:08.940
uh jamie hey what's up you guys hear me i can hear you um yeah i hear an echo is it playing
01:45:23.580
do you hear an echo doug mpa i do do you have youtube playing in the background uh yeah let me
01:45:29.980
turn it off quick all right how about now okay better yeah i used to work at a std clinic in the bay
01:45:38.540
area um yeah oh yeah i worked for like a year or two about two years um my experience is that it's
01:45:47.820
mostly a lot of gay men have hiv um in the world basically there's a lot of gay men in the bay area
01:45:55.660
to go with that um but the stories are crazy on how people would get them you'd hear all kinds of like
01:46:03.100
stories on some people would get and when it comes to h or hsv one and two um a lot of hsv one a lot of
01:46:12.940
hsv two i guess um the thing that i got was weird was that um a lot of the women that had hsv two
01:46:21.580
they would tell their partners or their future partners and a lot of the men were like that's fine
01:46:26.780
that's fine and they would tell me like so the guys were like i don't know if they're simping or
01:46:31.260
they're just desperate or the because the women that didn't tell me that a lot of them were really
01:46:35.820
hot really attractive and um from my experience also that when you have uh hsv two you can shed
01:46:45.980
which is you're shedding the virus like you could shed like a week or two before you actually
01:46:50.540
start feeling symptoms or showing symptoms so it's so the people that you think don't have it
01:46:57.020
may have it so it's hard to um tell if someone has it and a lot of the std testing in california
01:47:05.260
they don't test for hsv one or hsv two they'll do the other stuff the chlamydia the the hiv
01:47:11.100
the um i forget gonorrhea um all that but they won't really test for it and they say it's just so
01:47:17.020
damn prevalent in california with the hsv one and two and do you think the women that had have
01:47:24.140
it were they like would you say they were more attractive women um like just across the board go
01:47:31.260
ahead yeah in general in general it was really it was a really hot women um i have a question
01:47:39.900
this is doug mpa's question not pearl's question how many how many other women that came into your
01:47:49.260
clinic were black women um the one that was that came in a lot she was actually she had hiv really
01:47:57.100
cool lady though super cool lady um but it it was mostly the one that i saw i lived in or where i
01:48:06.780
worked at i'm not going to say where um it was mostly gay white men older men it wasn't really a
01:48:12.300
lot of young men um the young men that did come in they were it wasn't i can't say the worst they
01:48:19.500
were like the damn the horniest like it was just i remember a couple of a couple came in and then a
01:48:24.940
week later they're fighting with each other to get young men because one was cheating and they were both
01:48:30.300
one came in a week after that and he was looking green his hands were had pustules i think he had
01:48:35.180
gonorrhea for like a long time and he was just really in bad shape and he couldn't stop having
01:48:42.140
sex and then this other guy um i'm not going to say as an ethnicity or anything he was actually hiv
01:48:49.180
positive and hep c positive and he would come in and then a month later he'd come in and he had
01:48:54.620
chlamydia in his in his anus and in his throat and they tell him to stop having sex and he and then he
01:49:00.220
wouldn't he would just come in like three months later he'd be infected again it's just it just was
01:49:05.740
just nonsense and it was a young gay man and i felt bad for them but it's just it's like it's hard for
01:49:11.180
them to control i guess their sexual i don't know like they just couldn't keep their pants on i guess um
01:49:19.020
but the older men um they were just coming in for their regular schedule uh visits you know every six
01:49:25.660
months every it just depends how sick they were on their viral load or basically the viral load is
01:49:31.020
the amount of um hiv virus you have in your system and you check that like every i don't
01:49:36.540
depends on how bad you are how sick you are um the medication now is really really good um you can take
01:49:44.140
the medication to where your hiv your your viral load is so low where it's undetectable where you're
01:49:49.260
you're testing negative uh with hiv but you have to be i forget the name of it it's been a while
01:49:55.020
since i work how how often do they transmit it because i when i was looking on chat gpt it was
01:50:01.260
saying you're really not likely to get it if you hook up with someone that has it but that seems
01:50:07.820
that seems wrong but i'm like i don't know it's from what i remember and the studies is that um
01:50:15.500
like vaginal intercourse it's pretty difficult to get it's when you get into the the the blood the
01:50:20.380
blood on blood contact so anal sex is you have a lot of that blood on blood contact that's also when
01:50:26.300
you have hsv1 and 2 there's sores there right so if there's you have a higher chance of catching
01:50:33.420
something because you actually have a wound so something gets into that wound like disease like
01:50:38.940
hiv or something else so that's why they say you have you're at higher risk of getting hiv if you have
01:50:44.140
hsv1 and hsv2 and you're having sex so it's really like that blood on blood contact that's really
01:50:50.940
the thing about it um but yeah there's also like a tracking system in california once you
01:50:57.180
have hiv you're tracked for the rest of your life um through the through the state so if you're like
01:51:02.940
say you're homeless or you leave the state or you're in jail they have to like figure out where
01:51:07.820
you're at so they can keep you taking the medication to keep you below the hiv level the hiv
01:51:13.180
viral loads where you can give it to people so it's like um so if someone disappears they go to jail
01:51:19.020
we have to find them figure out who where they're at and have them keep taking the medication
01:51:23.340
and do most of them live like a normal life now oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah they're they're taking their
01:51:29.340
meds they have a normal life it used to be like in the 80s the medication was so bad it was really
01:51:36.220
tough on your on your liver and kidneys um but the medication you got it's gotten so good um that
01:51:43.980
you don't have to worry about that unless you're doing other drugs or you're an alcoholic or something
01:51:48.220
like that so i think for doug's question he was asking about um the herpes if like what percent were
01:51:53.660
b-dubs um it was low for more but i i we i the where i worked at was a low it was pretty predominantly
01:52:00.860
low um african-american community okay that makes sense i couldn't tell you yeah it is the
01:52:08.460
were you like right in san francisco like right there yeah yeah that's really expensive though so yeah
01:52:14.700
exactly exactly if i worked in oakland i'm pretty sure it'd be fully different stats yeah i would imagine
01:52:20.460
okay so for the um the would you say that most i don't know if you even like in your job did you
01:52:29.500
did you even have a chance to talk to them about how honest they were with the people they slept
01:52:33.740
with i'm just curious if you had any information on how like honest people are with it the the younger
01:52:41.420
let me add to their oh i'll add to her question not only first question but did you have any like
01:52:49.660
optional questionnaire questions with about the disclosure or how often they talk to their
01:52:55.980
their partners about what they have is there like anyway it's hard to say i didn't see a lot
01:53:02.380
of younger people there i was mostly the older older white men um but most of them they actually had
01:53:09.580
their own partners um when people did come in for random testing it was um you know they just want
01:53:16.460
to get their hiv test you know no questions asked that kind of thing i there was questions of how many
01:53:20.700
people i slept with i remember one guy he was a cop and he says he just he forgot how many people he
01:53:25.900
slept with he just wanted to get tested um other people would come in just to um hey i need my what was
01:53:33.740
it but my my warts burned off i need my warts taken care of like they actually had general warts and
01:53:39.500
get treated and okay i'm i'm gonna go about my business even though they were positive they're
01:53:43.820
probably hpv positive which is uh general warts which i think four of those types of general warts can
01:53:51.340
actually lead to um cancer um so it's it's for men it's really important if you if a woman has hpv
01:53:59.980
because they should you can you can get through a man can get throat cancer from hpv of those four
01:54:06.300
there's four variants there's like i don't even know there's like maybe 30 to 20 to 30 different
01:54:10.940
types of it's 16 18 the one you don't want right that's the no i forget there's at least maybe maybe
01:54:18.380
i forget how many are cancers but there's at least four or five that are cancerous um see if chat gpt says
01:54:25.500
what strands of hpv give men throat cancer um i'm curious what anecdotally and maybe because there
01:54:37.100
was a lot of gay guys but like what percent of women do you think have stds if you had to guess
01:54:44.780
based on your experience at the clinic a lot a lot um there's this other std that i keep forgetting it's
01:54:53.260
it's a oh there's this other one i forget um trichomonas that one like damn near 80 of the women
01:55:02.140
that came in for std checks had that um what is that um it's it's hard to explain uh i would just
01:55:10.300
don't look it up so it's it's they call it trick everybody calls it trick in in the clinic um
01:55:17.180
um we're talking about stuff that we didn't even know about yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and it leaves
01:55:24.540
like like us like like a stinky smell on a on a woman's vajayjay basically is one of the symptoms
01:55:31.900
but yeah yeah there's there's tons of maniasis yeah it's a commonly sti caused by a parasite called
01:55:39.340
trichomonas yeah vaginalis is typically spread through sexual contact and is treatable with
01:55:48.460
antibiotics uh oh i'm looking at the pictures yeah it causes a foul smelling vaginal discharge
01:55:55.740
exactly that's the biggest symptom so you'll so yeah that big stink that's probably trick
01:56:01.500
so that's so that's a telltale sign hey i'm not going to go down on this lady girl
01:56:05.900
right because sometimes some guys are desperate like i hear stories oh yeah you know i i even
01:56:11.580
though it smelled i was still hitting it you know because you know it's better to have a jj we know
01:56:16.620
that type of you know mentality what percent of guys do you think get herpes if they get into a
01:56:22.140
relationship with a girl that has it i just i don't know i just know a lot of the women that i that did
01:56:29.500
come in with hs me they would tell me like the guys wouldn't care because they were she was so hot
01:56:35.580
and i'm like what the like what do you mean didn't didn't care like they didn't want to put on a condom
01:56:39.900
like no they just they didn't want to put on a condo no they were all right with it which which tri
01:56:45.420
which was i'm like oh my god guys are that desperate i know i'm sorry i know one guy that
01:56:51.020
didn't he said he hooked up with a girl that had it but to be fair he was like 57 50. i feel like at that
01:56:57.820
age they're like that's another thing like older people they don't they don't give an f about those
01:57:02.380
stds they're like i'm on i'm dying anyways i might i don't give a f no they like nursing homes
01:57:07.660
oh yeah i worked at a nursing home too and they're they're they're they're they're hooking up they're
01:57:12.780
hooking up big time big time um sorry hun yeah they're hooking up big time and it's at a nursing
01:57:21.260
home it's like well they're adults let them do you know unless they don't have the mental capacity
01:57:26.380
they're like well they can do what they want so it's that's another whole another where where
01:57:31.980
did the warts come like if a guy's hooking up with a girl is there like is it easily visible
01:57:38.220
like the warts are they big some are some aren't um some show up like on genitalia or on the side of the
01:57:44.060
legs um on the penis it's it's there's different types i guess um they they show differently on
01:57:53.100
different people too like different races it shows up on the skin differently it could be a big old
01:57:58.460
wart like on your hand but it could be small and little it could be a bunch of little ones around
01:58:02.860
the penis it's it's all kinds of it's it's yeah it's a huge variance i was ever seen you that one
01:58:08.940
uh instagram real pearl with it's this woman she's in a salon like a waxing salon and the wax lady's like
01:58:20.140
she's like that smell down there ma'am i i can't wax you she's like well i just got out of the gym
01:58:25.180
she's like that's not the gym you need to go to the doctor and she's like well i can't believe you're
01:58:31.180
not going to give me i'm going on vacation tomorrow and she's like ma'am i am not going to wax you
01:58:36.220
because you you you got a discharge down there and like it smells gross and she's like i can't
01:58:41.020
believe and she's trying to cuss the lady out and he's like i don't feel comfortable giving you a wax
01:58:45.500
you need to leave yeah um i was just i was just curious if you think that it's like easy to
01:58:52.220
identify if you're hooking up with somebody like if a guy's hooking up with a girl or vice versa if
01:58:57.340
there's any like i don't know best practices places to look so you don't catch anything just
01:59:02.940
using condoms until you when you feel comfortable to take it off get get the the std panel get the whole
01:59:09.980
hsv one and two and all that before you even think about having um oh that's my next question
01:59:17.580
yeah like do you do you think the guy that said he told me he got herpes from wearing even though
01:59:23.260
he had a condom and they hooked up once do you believe him or no yeah yeah you can shed on your
01:59:29.100
legs but it's it's possible he could have um my gosh he probably could have kissed her and she had it
01:59:38.460
on her face well he said it was the second one not the first um yeah the the the other thing too
01:59:45.980
is that i think you can get hsv2 on your face too i'm not sure yeah you can yeah so yeah they you
01:59:54.700
kiss someone that has a hsv2 on their face and then i think it can show up on on your on your vaginal
02:00:00.700
on your on your lower extremities i'm not sure on that um but you can yeah um but there has been
02:00:06.780
um i've read stuff where you can be shedding on your you can because you can have hsv2 on your
02:00:13.820
legs it doesn't necessarily have to be on your genitalia it can be next to your genitalia basically
02:00:18.300
or it can be on your arm it can we've we've seen people have sores on their arms and it was hsv1 or
02:00:25.660
hsv2 and if in in your experience what like what percent of people that you came in that got stds were
02:00:34.380
wearing a condom if you if you know if you don't it's okay but i was just curious i i couldn't tell
02:00:42.140
you but i'm pretty sure it's pretty low yeah it's pretty low um it says 16 is the most common cause
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of hpv throat cancer in both men and women it's responsible for 90 of hpv cancers um hpv 18 is less
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common but still classified as high risk and occasionally
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other high risk types like 31 33 35 52 and 58 but these are much rarer forms of cancer but are
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sometimes found i think 16 18 are the ones you don't want to get
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that's rarity it could be it could be rare here but once you start going to thailand or
02:01:42.220
africa or you know then it change it totally changes um even with aids you can have a different
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variance of hiv there's like there's like a rare type of hiv or a different type of hiv that the
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medications can't treat in africa like though that aids variance or hiv is different from the one in the
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u.s because it mutates it's it's like the hiv from the 80s is not the hiv from today you know it's one
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one of my conspiracy theories yeah so you know the aspects of hiv that make it unlike any other virus
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i think the reason why it's the most prevalent in south africa and lesotho and all this this is
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i can't prove this this is just my i honestly think that the south africans came up with that to try to
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get rid of the white south africans during apartheid came up with that to try to get rid of the black
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population in south africa who knows who knows actually who knows i mean who was patient zero
02:02:41.260
wasn't it some gay guy who was um have you heard of patient zero it was yeah because wasn't it some
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he was a gay stewardess yeah yeah from europe that did some sex tourism
02:03:09.020
in south africa and then brought it back yeah yeah uh what was the average age of the women coming in
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with herpes oh the one 20s 20s 30s you know the oh yeah but a lot of the older women that would
02:03:26.940
come in um it was it was like it was totally normal to them because they've had it for years
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that's that's the only thing i was like oh yeah it's part of my other medications i take you know valtrex
02:03:37.420
about cyclovir you know when it wouldn't ever get a flare up but they would just
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you know you'd be like oh wow yeah i didn't know you had it you know that kind of thing um it was
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just across the board but it's it's really just to say it's there's a lot of people that have um hsb and
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hsb one and two in in california to say the least what percent of attractive people do you think have
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herpes men and women i couldn't tell you okay i'm just curious i like to ask people that work in the
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field so i i just yeah a lot of people because i think a lot of people have it um yeah i i can't
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say like i would say at least two out of ten at least have it okay i put it that put it in that
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context cool okay do you got anything else no this this has been great it's always good to hear
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there you know seeing what's really going on so thank you for calling in we really appreciate it
02:05:15.180
no problem take care okay guys make sure to like the stream we really appreciate you being here
02:05:22.460
so i'm going to read the supers yeah really quick we're talking
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about this because someone's got to nobody's you know it's like i haven't really heard any show
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so like because i remember i was like do you remember when kevin samuels had that stream that
02:06:04.940
was like you have three dates to have sex uh-huh i'm like kevin i don't like want to catch anything
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oh like all right we're talking about the soft fight i think that as women especially when they
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smash past the wall uh they would if enough if they meet a guy that crossed off enough of their boxes
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they would deal with anything short and maybe the high five yeah you know um okay avery i'm glad no one
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wants to do me wisdom for the hsv take foods and herbs with um cumin um quercetin and reservatrol i'm so
02:07:00.780
sorry take lysine which blocks arginine which helps the violence virus replicate and
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arginasi cancelled out the agitine don't ask me how i know this okay michael nasty topic but it's important to
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spread the message thank you eric my dog okay eric you
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you're not helping me with this incel audience allegations um spread knowledge not herpes yeah
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look i just i just felt like this is a big fear of people in the mart like nobody wants to catch
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okay although women i think we just want it we like we love playing with fire so i think if like we
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might catch something it just makes it like i asked one of the guys who had it i'm like your exes that
02:08:24.860
were really into you do you think they'd hook up with you even if you told them you had it he's like
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yup ah there you go i remember one of my friends uh who's a woman she's all everything that we talk about
02:08:39.980
she's in her mid 40s six figures was a single mom now her kids out of the house and uh she was on
02:08:47.340
facebook dating of all places and i'm just like what are you doing there and this really attractive
02:08:52.620
male nurse good looking dude hits her up on there and she's like they're talking and stuff he's like
02:08:57.900
hey i'm a travel nurse i'm at this hotel why don't you come there's a really nice restaurant in my hotel
02:09:04.460
why don't you come here friday night and then you can stay the night the night you know that night
02:09:09.660
in my hotel room and she's like i can't believe he he said that and does that really work of course it
02:09:14.780
works he wouldn't have tried it if it didn't he said because my friend she's you're saying
02:09:20.300
difficult where she's alone but she isn't no she tries to say that she's happy alone but we all know
02:09:25.500
she's not and it's like all you women there's good you're gonna break sometime you're gonna be like
02:09:33.020
okay i'm here watching scandal for the 10th time this guy hit me up on for a friday night what else
02:09:39.500
am i doing and i and this woman i don't know if who knows the last time she's actually been with a
02:09:46.060
man so and a lot of the women like you you're gonna break sometime so that guy probably sleeps with
02:09:51.820
a whole bunch of women just like you and that guy probably has something
02:09:55.020
so well anyway okay well let's bring up i'm going to bring up some of the regulars but i'm going to
02:10:09.180
give you a four minute limit because we still have
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two three four five six seven eight nine ten people in here so eric i'm bringing you up but you got
02:10:43.980
he always has his microphone messed up or maybe he's listening to the youtube and he's delayed
02:10:50.220
there he is what up eric you got herpes or not well not anymore what do you not anymore
02:10:58.860
yes you can't get rid of that what are you talking about well you know uh a moment ago well actually
02:11:10.620
after the past few minutes uh your youtube feed was totally robotting so i was i was i was fighting
02:11:19.340
that refreshing you know trying to get it to go back to normal um but i guess we're okay now are we
02:11:25.820
we're good so um okay well the sun's going down so there isn't a whole lot of lighting on my face
02:11:34.460
which is probably a good thing because i'm an old dard you know you got five minutes
02:11:41.340
but again we have like 11 more people on the line and we just crossed the two hours okay
02:11:56.780
well i'll be quick then um yeah back in uh 1982 and you know i'm talking ancient history here uh
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uh there was a there was a girl who worked in a restaurant um uh you know right on the other
02:12:14.140
side of the pier uh where i lived uh i was an intern at the moat marine laboratory in sarasota and uh
02:12:27.580
i i hooked up with her and uh about 10 days later uh i uh i had a sore on my noodle um i'm not sure what
02:12:49.260
you can say on facebook but yeah it was basically herpes and um you know you know that stuff would
02:12:58.860
erupt like every two or three months and then it just dropped out all together and uh you know i i
02:13:08.780
joined the military later and it never showed up again which i think was really strange i guess it's an
02:13:15.740
immune system thing um but uh you know the uh my um i ultimately you know i eventually got married
02:13:32.780
and i guess my my wife at the time was uh you know throwing the pussy at me almost every day
02:13:41.020
and it didn't occur to me that she was trying to get pregnant and uh you know she uh she wound up
02:13:51.580
getting a whole bunch of tests done and it turned out she couldn't get pregnant because during her
02:13:58.860
you know what do you call it her experimental phase she had apparently caught chlamydia
02:14:04.380
and it had completely destroyed her reproductive tract oh my gosh yeah so her her eggs weren't even
02:14:12.460
making it down her tubes far enough to get fertilized how long did she have chlamydia for
02:14:20.700
i'm not sure i mean you know i married her when she was 21 um i'm guessing she was probably
02:14:28.300
banging all the chads from like age 16 until then um you know because yeah she was a horny man no doubt
02:14:37.820
about it i mean you know she she loved getting it on wow so she was infertile by the time she got to 21.
02:14:45.180
she must have had because from what i understand how long does chlamydia take to make you infertile did
02:14:52.540
they not have drugs for it back then yeah i don't know i mean okay you know i never bothered to follow
02:14:59.980
up on it and okay you know well and that's not why i divorced her i mean ultimately after 14 years of
02:15:07.740
marriage i divorced her because she was so incredibly financially irresponsible you know but uh yeah you
02:15:16.700
know before uh even before i got exposed to herpes back in 1980 well too um one of the worst things that
02:15:29.180
ever happened to me in terms of like communicable diseases was uh there was a super athletic really
02:15:41.340
attractive redhead in my apartment complex okay um oh yeah yeah and uh we had a huge pool party there
02:15:50.860
were like 20 people or more there and um although i wasn't able to detect it at the time uh we wound up
02:16:03.740
going back to my apartment and uh you know i went down on her because you know back then i was a full
02:16:11.580
service guy and um i wound up getting a yeast infection in both my inner ears it was the most painful
02:16:21.900
thing oh my gosh life i felt like my head was gonna explode and um you know it was really funny because uh
02:16:32.060
i i i came back up here to the verde valley because i didn't have any medical insurance i didn't have
02:16:39.500
a doctor or anything my mom hooked me up with an appointment uh with a gynecologist up here in the
02:16:46.220
verde valley and uh so there i am in the waiting room with like you know eight women aged like 18 to 30
02:16:59.420
30 and the reception is like okay so why are you here and i'm like do i really have to say this out
02:17:07.340
loud and uh i was like uh i was like well my ears are about to explode because uh apparently i have an
02:17:15.900
infection in my inner ears and uh she's like how the fuck would you get a yeast infection in your inner
02:17:22.940
ears and i'm like honey do the math you know i'm a full service guy and last night was an amazing time
02:17:32.060
and now i'm paying for it you know i don't do it yeah well what was really funny is you know it's like
02:17:42.620
i got like smirky looks from the women in the waiting room like hey let us know when you're good
02:17:48.060
again because hey i'd like some of that action oh my god it says it says you can get infertile from
02:17:56.220
chlamydia in a year actually oh yeah so she didn't get yeah so she didn't get tested for two if you could
02:18:03.900
yeah well the thing is chlamydia is not destructive you know it's it's it's not a virus it's a it's a
02:18:10.380
protist it's a single-celled organism and you know like initially they're supposed to be like you know
02:18:18.860
signs like you know a discharge or whatever but if a woman blows that off it goes away and what it does
02:18:28.860
then is it climbs up the you know it propagates through the uterus goes up the fallopian tubes
02:18:36.380
and essentially the fallopian tubes become cords they're scar tissue they're close there's no way
02:18:43.580
an egg's getting down through there and uh yeah you know it's like uh so did she have the chlamydia
02:18:51.820
infection like was it active when she went and got to went to the doctor well from what her from what
02:19:00.300
my ex-mother-in-law told me uh she set up an appointment for her to for her daughter to go to
02:19:09.260
the doctor and instead of going to that appointment she packed up all her and drove out to
02:19:18.620
oklahoma to live with her dad so basically she went into denial and she just let that infection
02:19:27.340
propagate not knowing what it was going to do to her um 21 and infertile i met a girl that got infertile
02:19:35.260
from taking too many plan b's that was around the same age you remember her dug mpa on the show
02:19:41.020
yeah she had the green makeup on her eyes yeah that's so weird yeah she was nice though yeah
02:19:49.100
okay eric well well you know you can i don't think you can really judge people for the way microorganisms
02:19:56.300
have their way with them because they're invisible you never know when you're gonna pick something like
02:20:01.580
that up that's why you gotta get regularly tested though yeah well i mean the other thing is if you've
02:20:08.380
been diagnosed with you know something like that and you're still dating it's kind of kind of incumbent
02:20:16.780
on you to let your date know that you've got this or that medical history you know but uh
02:20:25.980
yeah it's uh it's a wacky world man i would imagine okay we're gonna move to the next caller
02:20:32.220
all right thanks thanks for calling in damn a yeast infection in his ears that's a while yikes
02:20:40.620
they will bring up damn he's really up there we're gonna bring up will
02:20:49.260
hey guys always good call hey will how you doing good how are you guys good what's up well you got
02:20:54.620
herpes or what no fortunately not um two quick points but before we get to that dude how do you get a
02:21:01.580
yeast infection in your ear you know we're just gonna move on we're gonna move on from now on
02:21:06.860
okay we're just gonna let that one go we're just gonna let it that's one of those where you don't
02:21:10.780
know what's worse the question having to be asked or the answer that you get so we're just gonna move
02:21:16.940
okay well i got two quick stories to support some earlier points okay um the first is about gay men
02:21:24.300
when i was in college i was in a fraternity and we had a chef who was uh like a 50 year old gay guy
02:21:30.700
and this was in san francisco by the way just to set the context of course it is so we're sloshed
02:21:36.860
one night and we're like my dude level with me how many men have you been with and he pauses for a
02:21:42.940
second he goes somewhere between three and five thousand and i was like what bro can you run the
02:21:50.780
math how does that work and he explained to us that every weekend saturday and sunday for a period of
02:21:57.500
like one or two decades he would go to a bath house and every night he would bang like three to
02:22:02.780
six guys and sure enough we ran the math and we're like yeah that's literally in the thousands
02:22:10.060
so i didn't say anything because trying to be polite but in my brain i'm like that's how aids happens
02:22:16.140
like that's where that comes from just saying and so and did he get it um i did not ask okay
02:22:26.780
yeah i know sometimes i'll hear stories from guys and i'm like there's no way you don't
02:22:31.980
have something i'm like girls too but it's like okay so um what about you know that's actually if
02:22:40.780
i ever had bonnie blue on that's what i'd want to ask her about but show me your test results i don't
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believe you yeah that's the thing i'm not bonnie blue but the other one you know who i'm talking about
02:22:51.660
the hundred guys chick yeah i think she was raw dogging them wasn't she i don't think so they're
02:22:58.300
like i saw after footage and there was like a bunch of condoms on the floor oh thank god okay because
02:23:05.420
that that i mean you don't want to be like a human petri dish that's not cool i mean you're that way
02:23:10.380
either way yeah so um did you know anyone with herpes uh yeah i knew um my other cousin not cocaine
02:23:21.100
cousin but i have another cousin who's a stripper and she has herpes okay and how does she date does
02:23:27.020
she tell the people or no yeah she uses websites there's like special websites for herpes people
02:23:37.100
okay so she's actually honest about it oh good for her well sometimes i mean she's in her 40s but
02:23:42.860
she's still kind of working the strip economy and i don't think she tells those guys in her 40s
02:23:48.860
well she's asian right so she aged pretty well okay that'll do it that'll do
02:23:54.940
um do you know anyone else with an std or no or like have you ever dated girls and they told you
02:24:01.420
they had one actually quick story about that okay um so i was living in you know bay area and um i was
02:24:08.380
like early 30s um i'm six feet tall pretty good with women there is an absolute ocean of mid women out
02:24:15.740
there who are totally cool with you raw dogging them not saying i did it but like they would not
02:24:23.020
even bring up condoms a lot of them i was kind of flabbergasted
02:24:29.980
and did any of them catch anything from those decisions or
02:24:34.700
well i had i had a gal i was with her a few times and then she called me up and basically went nuts and
02:24:40.380
accused me of giving her herpes and i was confused as hell because i'd been pretty responsible and i
02:24:47.820
was pretty darn sure i didn't have it um but so for like three or four days you know i went i went and
02:24:53.660
i go get tested i paid a hundred bucks and it takes a few days to get the results for those three days
02:24:58.940
i'm sitting there i'm sweating and i'm like oh my god if i have herpes who the hell did i catch it i'm
02:25:04.380
trying to like do like the like the detective work in my brain of like what is the sketchiest chick i
02:25:09.340
banged how long ago is that which other chicks happened since then you know what i'm saying
02:25:14.140
and so for three days i was freaking out only to have this chick call me back and then be like oh
02:25:19.500
never mind it wasn't it wasn't herpes i'm like oh cool thanks appreciate it dang so you like had a
02:25:25.900
heart attack basically dude i was dying and i had like a couple serious girlfriends during that time
02:25:32.220
that i had like i'm like oh my god am i am i gonna have to go to like elizabeth and the other one
02:25:37.180
and tell her like hey by the way like you know how we broke up on bad terms well there's one more
02:25:42.140
thing you might want to know it's like no damn um okay so but on date how many like so you've never
02:25:54.300
had a girl though on a date say she had it no i mean it's possible that some of them might have had it
02:26:00.380
but um i happen to know that like transmission rates from women to men are super low like this
02:26:07.580
is the thing too like the whole kind of um all the a lot of the info we're getting about stds is
02:26:14.380
sort of obscured by this kind of cloud of political practice right um like the whole aids thing they
02:26:22.380
were trying to make it seem like oh anyone could get aids and it's like it's kind of it's kind of mostly
02:26:26.300
gay guys just you know and and same thing with stds like normal stuff like if you're a guy and and
02:26:35.180
you're mostly having sex with like middle to upper class women who are like white and asian you're
02:26:42.860
probably okay you know what i mean like you don't have to be too nuts about about watching out basically
02:26:48.700
yeah okay okay cool cool that's pretty much it doug mpa you got anything else for him
02:26:58.620
no thanks for calling me we'll always get here always good to hear from you thanks guys thanks
02:27:03.260
thanks for calling in it's like the rain is on and off here next up is joker right there
02:27:12.860
hello hey joker what's going on yeah yeah i've been hearing i'm sorry with my voice and um long
02:27:24.940
story but anyways um i'm a retired uh independent duty corbin in the navy uh i'm a healthcare provider
02:27:33.020
okay and uh i worked as i also as a physician assistant in the community there is wow
02:27:42.860
so much information out there and some of it is correct someone is not uh that has been stated
02:27:50.780
uh i mean like for example that if you are hooking up with uh you know upper class white females uh
02:28:00.940
you're probably okay no no no no i was thinking the same thing that is incorrect uh
02:28:07.900
uh you know it's i mean i can tell you stories of crap that i saw and i get a couple of people in
02:28:14.380
the on the chat that are i guess prior service and they can agree with this because they will know
02:28:20.140
how it goes especially if they're ever going on deployment or on a ship my goodness when they come home
02:28:26.780
the sd clinic clinic is just over books give it about a week and they're done uh most comments
02:28:38.780
as usually chlamydia uh chlamydia and gonorrhea sometimes herpes uh it's you know it depends if uh
02:28:50.220
um if because somebody can literally have herpes for a whole year i have no noticeable symptoms because
02:29:01.020
of the way uh it shows up for example you get source inside the vagina and you have no sex and no for no
02:29:13.820
contact you can literally have a you know an outbreak
02:29:20.620
and being aware of it because you know urine doesn't come straight so it doesn't get irritated
02:29:27.180
uh so it is possible now with chlamydia also there's there's two things usually if you have chlamydia
02:29:37.740
you have something called mycoplasma uh which is uh we we call it non-gonococcal urethritis
02:29:53.900
also on that one the symptoms are very similar and because you can go to a clinic
02:30:11.420
and because you're not testing for uh micro plasma the mycoplasma it will not come because mycoplasma is
02:30:20.380
a virus versus the other one is not so and it's not something that you you check stat you know you
02:30:29.420
make it a standard that's why in the military when somebody pass positive with an scd we automatically
02:30:37.980
hit you with several antibiotics just to cover your bases also go ahead that's also on hiv
02:30:49.340
anybody it's not just gay guys that used to be the case how your region is you know got promulgated
02:30:55.660
nowadays it doesn't matter because you can have a what we call you know these guys that like to go
02:31:03.500
both ways yeah and go with a woman and give it to her now hiv nobody will ever die of hiv
02:31:14.780
problem is when hiv turns into aids because hiv is just the state of carrying the virus
02:31:23.420
aids is when it wakes up you can die as a matter of fact i have a personal story on that my brother
02:31:32.940
was gay didn't want to listen to my advice didn't want to at least take care you know because it was
02:31:39.740
all another misconception that h hiv is curable so therefore it doesn't matter no it's not curable
02:31:52.780
you can take medications that blocks the promulgation of the virus to get it to a point that it's
02:32:00.780
undetectable but if you stop taking that medication it comes back and in some you know in some countries
02:32:09.260
that treatment is so expensive that's why people die of aids a lot in africa that's unfortunately a sad
02:32:15.980
truth but my case my brother you know he wouldn't stop having unprotected sex and last year gave me a
02:32:26.060
call crying because he developed into aids and last night he called me that he wants to see me because
02:32:32.860
uh he's very sick because of it because ace what he does is shuts off your immune system so anything
02:32:43.020
including a bad cold could kill you how because how old is he and did you say he's gay yes he's
02:32:51.260
gay okay i believe you know i'm i'm i'm not you know i'm completely i'm not you know i don't approve
02:32:58.780
of it but you know he's my brother trying to give him advice i mean it doesn't matter i wasn't gonna be
02:33:04.860
able to uh how old is he talk him off of him he's 50 58. well so he actually made it pretty old without
02:33:13.020
getting it right yeah and he got a he's got a bad case of um hepatitis and because he has no immune
02:33:23.820
system it's become complicated and he's in the hospital so yeah you can die from it okay and so
02:33:33.100
you said you worked at an std clinic in the military no no no no right uh in the military you have
02:33:39.260
you have uh doctors uh physician assistants independent duty corpsmen nurses and then corpsmen
02:33:51.100
and you know in the in the navy we our training is above uh a nurse practitioner and we we're just below a
02:34:02.060
pa the reason we're not ps is because the way we developed is the military needed to send a provider
02:34:10.300
to the front lines but it is illegal to send somebody a provider to the front lines okay because you know
02:34:17.180
you cannot carry a rifle it goes against the geneva convention so the navy circumvented that by the
02:34:23.900
medical corpsmen right but yes by sending well a corpsman is no longer a non-combatant now you're
02:34:30.460
considered a combatant okay so yeah what they've done is the same a senior corpsman to medical school
02:34:37.980
did you then right before you graduate yeah it's okay for you i don't that's okay i don't need all
02:34:42.860
the details i just don't know but anyways uh you know i'm a healthcare provider yeah yeah so did you say
02:34:54.460
you got herpes uh and you didn't have symptoms for a year is that we no no no no herpes herpes you can
02:35:02.620
literally have it with for without it here i mean i had couples come in you know young couples angry at
02:35:09.660
each other because they uh they wanted to blame each other oh for giving up and yeah but the problem is
02:35:17.660
because it can literally you can go a whole year in some instances and not know it or sometimes
02:35:24.140
not even have an outbreak so what percent what in your experience out of 10 people that get herpes
02:35:30.940
how many have outbreaks right away and how many um it's prolonged like they don't get it right away
02:35:36.940
the ones that don't get it right away uh pretty pretty small percentage okay so the ones that get
02:35:44.860
it is anywhere within seven seven like a week to a month in my interviews that was pretty consistent
02:35:53.180
in what they said too so like most people i interviewed it was pretty yeah yeah and that's
02:35:58.540
unfortunately the fact in young couples like that i would have to counsel them say you know what
02:36:03.180
because of that i mean it's kind of because the the girl was that was her first boyfriend but the
02:36:13.420
boyfriend was really pissed because he thought he gave her and you know i thought i talked to her and
02:36:20.780
you know one-on-one and you know and she was really straightforward and he could have got it
02:36:27.500
from a girlfriend that probably she had many guys give it to him i haven't seen it for a year and then
02:36:34.380
give it to her and then boom she has an outbreak dang so in those cases you gotta kind of be a little
02:36:43.020
a little cautious because you don't want to put blame because it can happen unfortunately also here's
02:36:49.500
the thing ninety percent of the population has hsv one it used to be considered necessity in no longer
02:36:58.700
now you can have a really bad case of uh of one and go down on a woman and guess what and then it
02:37:07.660
goes because yeah because now you have those really bad open source which people think they're oh it's just
02:37:15.180
a cold sore you know such thing as a cold sore uh you know sometimes when people are gonna get
02:37:20.380
them they feel sick like they're about to get a cold and you know and then it comes up that's why
02:37:28.380
they call it a favorite places so if a guy if a guy or a girl are dating and they know they're gonna
02:37:37.420
be sexually active are there any ways to really prevent like other than like obviously wear a condom
02:37:44.860
but is there anything further people can do in your perspective all of them being honest and
02:37:52.540
yeah but people are gonna lie so let's not you know now if and if both wanna be uh very upfront
02:38:02.940
with somebody they can both have uh an std uh you know go to go get it tested but people aren't gonna
02:38:12.620
do that so like i'm just saying realistically people have to respect themselves though i mean i personally
02:38:19.500
if i don't know the person i won't i won't do it and if somebody that is questionable i'll stay
02:38:25.420
lucky yeah i understand but i'm saying pragmatically what's going on now is people are hooking up first
02:38:33.180
to third day right now yeah so i'm just i'm just asking if there's things they should look for when
02:38:39.820
they're hooking up or if they see a like a certain something they should stop yes okay if there's like if
02:38:45.180
there's you know showering after does that help like what what are your do you have any just working
02:38:51.100
in healthcare really not uh but what can help is uh you know if you are because i always say you know
02:39:02.860
what i'm sorry but if you can if you can't put it in your mouth you shouldn't you shouldn't put in
02:39:08.380
in your genitals and you know pretend like you're gonna go down and if there's a really funky smell
02:39:17.020
maybe you should not do it other than that uh because there there's uh
02:39:25.900
to you know like for example the trigon the trigomonas that can give you a really foul smell
02:39:32.300
really foul smell okay bacterial macchinosis can also give you a horrible smell uh but the the
02:39:41.420
one for trigomonas my god that i mean it's pretty foul okay horrible foul okay so oh and if you see a
02:39:53.420
like a white ish thick discharge you know you might want to you know you might want to kind of like
02:40:02.300
you know maybe put on a condom okay white thick discharge okay if it's uh that's how clear frothy
02:40:09.340
kind of like kind of like clear but he's got like bubbles in it you might want to put a condom okay okay
02:40:15.820
because that's usually what that's good best practices go ahead you know because that's usually
02:40:21.980
what uh trichomonas looks like and when you have uh trichomonas you could uh you could also have
02:40:32.140
chlamydia which you know is in a percentage of women have no symptoms yeah don't ask me why
02:40:42.540
uh the most when i've pulled chlamydia is the most common one i've gotten back that people have
02:40:49.900
gotten when i wouldn't pulled but yeah go ahead and chlamydia uh i would say no our chlamydia can also
02:41:01.260
oh i'm sorry but you have chlamydia you should always take uh the uh the michael um mycoplasma
02:41:09.660
uh uh infection because it's a virus because they tend to go hand to hand you know it's just it's
02:41:19.020
just the way it is but okay there's all the things that you have to worry about for example nobody's
02:41:25.900
talked to talked about something called molluscum contagiosum oh what and molluscum contagiosum okay
02:41:34.220
okay okay uh i i i i top it i top it in the chat it's called uh let me see molluscum you can just look
02:41:43.020
look for molluscum okay it's kind of like like like when you talk about like uh uh shellfish you
02:41:53.580
start kind of like some of them are molluscum or mollusk it's kind of molluscum contagiosum and those
02:42:00.060
are like this this little uh outbreaks they're like this pearly outbreak with this with a hollow
02:42:11.580
center i was like uh like you don't have to look at it and when you get it man you'll know it because
02:42:19.820
if you scratch it it bleeds a lot and wherever that blood goes new ones come out within a couple of
02:42:26.460
days so best thing is not to touch it go see a doctor if it gets really bad that is disgusting
02:42:35.500
you looked at it oh yeah oh yeah uh and i had it once and i tell you uh and there's no antibiotics
02:42:46.860
like that you can take this is a local topic of treatment that you got get it for the girlfriend that
02:42:52.700
uh that you know and i didn't see anything from her but i i guess she had a tiny little one and boom
02:43:01.660
there it goes but then once they go away they go away okay okay i mean well anything any questions you
02:43:09.420
guys want to ask i mean um i think we covered attractive people for some reason
02:43:15.740
and we talked to this in the clinic our theory is because what we saw was usually the the whenever
02:43:27.820
we had a very attractive woman coming in they have more than one form of std and the reason is
02:43:37.660
woman by its nature they tend to be a little more cautious on when it comes to sex
02:43:43.260
uh and you you usually see a very attractive woman with a medium to a very attractive man
02:43:55.340
and those men are the ones that are getting laid a lot and they unfortunately some of them tend to cheat
02:44:06.060
the ship will go six months later they'll come in to port and then within a week we'll have the wives
02:44:15.580
and nala and a lot of them were very attractive the ones that had as it is because of the husbands
02:44:23.180
right a lot of them because i went to thailand did you see attractive people coming in more than like
02:44:30.620
medium people attractive people the i was just wondering because my thought process was if the
02:44:36.620
the hottest girls are banging the hottest guys and they probably have more stds that's what i was saying
02:44:41.100
yeah you know they usually have somebody is uh and it's usually because of the guy it's usually not
02:44:47.420
the woman which is i say usually doesn't exclude them but it's that's what you say what happens okay
02:44:54.060
uh let me see what what are the um facial decisions i mean i i i had uh i have cases in which
02:45:05.100
people will try to convince their wives that uh and wanted me to agree with that they got it from
02:45:12.220
sitting on a on a toilet like the old lifestyle and i've been like looking at me like
02:45:17.820
you gotta give him credit for trying though right yeah did you help him out did you help him out or
02:45:26.300
oh hell no hell no i mean okay here's a funny story okay had a marine came me um came to the clinic
02:45:38.940
he goes in and he's like doc you gotta help me you gotta help me i've never done this
02:45:44.700
but my wife went home for 30 days and i went to the club and you know i was too drunk blah blah blah okay
02:45:52.940
all right you give me a little bit of that but just whether it's true or not you're still going to
02:45:56.940
treat him and you and so and uh you know he got treated
02:46:04.060
taking care of two months later wife goes back home for another 30 days
02:46:09.020
he comes back for the same crap all right so now i'm like okay i have to consult this guy
02:46:17.580
like be stern with him that put rank on him all right he goes
02:46:22.940
he does it again in three more months jesus he comes saying that like my wife's gonna get i'm like
02:46:36.460
i add it to uh because you can uh uh some medications you know some of these things you
02:46:46.780
can treat them with uh we're just playing penicillin so i make sure i got the penicillin
02:46:53.660
the gel that thick thing that leaves you like a golf ball in your butt for like freaking three weeks
02:46:59.900
and then i found i instead of using the regular needle i adopted the biggest freaking needle i could
02:47:08.140
find like a freaking harpoon wow boom got him the guy turned ashy pale the guy was you know black the
02:47:19.180
i was man he almost turned eskimo like eskimo white guess what he never came back to the clinic
02:47:25.900
yeah because he didn't want to go through that again oh no no he he was scared he was scared
02:47:33.340
because i used a 14 gauge needle if you look at a 14 gauge deal okay i mean that's why you're using
02:47:41.260
trauma cases that you need you need a large bore uh interval you know fluids and you put it in the neck
02:47:48.940
they look like half the size of a pencil man i was i was aiming for moby dick on that one
02:47:55.900
oh yeah he just never came back after that okay but i mean uh we're getting close to wrapping up
02:48:04.780
the show because we're almost at the three hour mark but thank you for calling in joke we really
02:48:08.700
appreciate it thanks for all the knowledge it's always good to talk to medical providers on this
02:48:12.780
no problem yeah we're gonna do that same subject let me know yeah sure we do us we are gonna do more
02:48:19.580
shows on different stds so today's herpes and hiv but we hop we'll have more don't worry all right
02:48:27.420
nice sounds good all right have a good one bless you god bless you guys bye bye all these knowledgeable
02:48:33.100
people on here i know i love it when people in the clinics call in because they just they have the
02:48:38.620
uh they see so much more you know like they're gonna have you know i interviewed like uh maybe
02:48:46.540
five six people i have to think through it but you know they they see six people a day you know what
02:48:55.580
i mean at least well the clinic people yeah i mean they're gonna no no no it's more than that are you
02:49:02.300
crazy i said at least six people a day so just so you know in the um in the private sector at a
02:49:11.500
doctor's office no i know don't see 20 people a day yeah i know i know i was saying i was i was just
02:49:17.660
doing the comparison is like they get more thing in a day than i do cool it we're coming up on
02:49:27.340
two hours 45 minutes do you want to take more callers we have one two three three more people on the
02:49:35.260
line sure we can take another okay uh i've never seen
02:49:42.220
let's just try to um wrap them up like not like just do smaller or sorry michael's coming in
02:49:49.660
and michael is connecting his audio we're gonna do four minutes or less for all the remaining callers
02:50:04.460
his audio is connecting connecting audio what a way to start the call right i just feel like let's get
02:50:11.500
it right to it who's got it is it you or someone you know okay michael's audio is connecting going
02:50:20.060
once going twice going three times and back in the waiting room and let's see gary
02:50:50.140
can you hear me now no it's still kind of scratchy oh boy
02:50:57.580
not at all we're gonna have to we're gonna have to drop you and you figure it out all right
02:51:02.620
okay and last but not least we have our good friend brad
02:51:11.740
hey brad how you doing buddy hey nice to talk to you guys again how's it going brad do you got
02:51:17.180
the gift that keeps on giving or well as far as i know i'm herpes free but you know like so many
02:51:24.220
people out there have said they don't necessarily get disclosure so i was married faithfully on my end
02:51:30.700
for over 30 years and i didn't find out until we were a couple years into the marriage and we were
02:51:37.180
expecting our first child that uh when she went to the ob-gyn they put her on a high risk pregnancy
02:51:44.220
rating and what the heck is that all about well apparently they're under no need or no uh um push to
02:51:52.060
disclose even to a husband that there's you know potentially something uh an std or something going
02:51:59.500
on down there so apparently she had some one of the forms of hpv and it um was noticeable to the
02:52:07.420
to the doctors uh she had something called cervical dysplasia which i had no idea what that was about
02:52:13.820
and nobody was forthcoming as far as information as far as what that is but it's um the other viral
02:52:21.340
thing that's hpv as opposed to the um hsv one or two and it results in warts and sores and some
02:52:29.340
things like that which you know can make you susceptible to some of the other things so that
02:52:35.020
was one area okay um then the other thing was uh further along into the marriage around our 25th
02:52:41.100
anniversary she carried on a secret affair with a guy where she managed in spite of still having two
02:52:46.620
kids living at home to arrange to go grocery shopping and shopping in town and be gone for
02:52:51.260
four hours and hook up with a guy on the other end of town and was carrying on a secret affair that
02:52:56.540
none of us in the family had a clue about for almost two years and when she when i finally caught them
02:53:03.900
in the act um i i she you know she i said you know i just realized you you weren't using any protection
02:53:12.060
were you i mean this who knows what this this guy you're with i mean you just assume he's free and
02:53:17.020
clear but you know who knows what he's got do you need before we get back into bed ever again because
02:53:23.980
we were talking about reconciling um not that i wanted to simp but we had 25 years invested in
02:53:29.740
it and four kids behind us and you know i was willing to you know still give it a shot if if she was
02:53:35.900
so um yeah it never occurred to her it was like the light bulb went you could literally see the
02:53:42.540
light bulb light up over her head like in a cartoon it was like oh oh yeah okay oh yeah so she then went
02:53:49.020
in to the doctor to get tests run you know and up until that time it was like you know hands hands
02:53:54.940
and everything else off because who knows what i was subjected to so uh i may or did she come back
02:54:02.220
clean or no yeah she did come back clean which amazed me because one of the things that was kind
02:54:09.100
of like a side benefit if you can believe it of the uh aftermath of the affair was that you know
02:54:17.260
she still was not in a position financially yet if i'd kicked her to the curb to make it on her own
02:54:22.780
so she still had a vested interest in you know trying to make nice with me and so that you know i
02:54:28.380
would keep her uh keep a roof over her head and keep her supplied with the dailies so she also at
02:54:34.860
that point had nothing morally to lose because all the pretenses she'd been made making about being
02:54:39.260
such a good girl kind of went out the window so i inquired further into her past i knew she'd been
02:54:45.260
active in her teens and she admitted to me she never used contraception never used protection i don't
02:54:50.860
know how that girl went through all the years of high school and up until we got married uh without
02:54:56.220
catching something but apparently she did catch hpv fortunately doesn't seem like she got anything
02:55:01.580
worse than that well the um when they're younger they can fight it off easier so if she had a hoe
02:55:08.860
phase in like high school you're less likely to well there's i i think you're more likely to get it
02:55:15.580
because they have more stds like i think people use protection more when they get older but but the
02:55:23.100
the girls have stronger immune systems when they're younger if that makes sense so like if she was in
02:55:28.620
shape like sometimes they can just fight it off well you know going back you know i've mentioned before
02:55:35.180
i've been on uh on your talk line before uh going back into the 70s there was a lot of promiscuity going
02:55:41.420
on um and so you know there was a girl in my class that had to leave early because she was pregnant
02:55:46.940
and we did have people that the big thing back then was syphilis and gonorrhea which was absolutely
02:55:52.940
nasty and there were cases where people get tagged with that um so i'm not sure i mean i just you know
02:55:59.900
i just marveled at the fact that it wasn't we didn't wind up having to deal with anything worse but it
02:56:05.180
never occurred to her even as a husband you know of a wife that you know she could potentially by her
02:56:10.300
fooling around bring something home that i didn't ask for how um how old was she when she was pregnant
02:56:17.340
like how old was she when she got the hpv well let's see we got married um based on where the
02:56:22.940
months of our birth years fall she was uh 20 and i was 21. oh wow she had hpv that early that's i
02:56:32.060
heard you don't get because i spoke to a doctor about hpv and they said late mid to late 30s is
02:56:41.340
usually when women get that so if she had that at 21 she must have started early she ran through a
02:56:47.100
bunch of people i mean originally you know there was not a lot of disclosure and because i thought i
02:56:52.060
knew her off and on from the time we were in our preteens that i had a pretty good idea who she was
02:56:58.540
but i you know we went to two different high schools and so her group of people she circulated
02:57:04.380
with were not directly connected to mine and i didn't have a constant eye on her so i had no idea she
02:57:09.980
was very very promiscuous and i didn't find out until later a little bit more detail once we were
02:57:16.780
married and she felt like she didn't have anything to lose by giving me much more disclosure and
02:57:22.220
details and that it would actually maybe help her situation um because you know i could have kicked
02:57:29.260
her to the curb at that point and said hey look i'm going to divorce you on the grounds of
02:57:32.860
of uh unfaithfulness and then she wouldn't have a leg stand on and that she wasn't ready for that
02:57:38.220
so but i did have two friends when i was coming up in the 80s right after we got out of school
02:57:43.020
one was about 10 years older than me so he was in his early to mid 30s and he drove a limo for a
02:57:47.260
living and he got it went back in those days like your previous caller mentioned it didn't hang around
02:57:54.140
as uh hiv it went straight into full-blown aids and these guys they lost weight uh they you could
02:58:01.340
see physically how the body was like deteriorating from the inside out and then you know one day they
02:58:06.940
were no longer in the public eye and the other one was he was a fellow i went to high school with
02:58:11.900
he was a classmate uh his family and i were good friends i was close with his parents and his older
02:58:16.780
brother and they moved him out of the hospital during the end of his life into a hospital bed
02:58:22.300
downstairs in what used to be the family den and had like a miniature hospital room set up for him
02:58:27.500
there and he literally wasted away i mean his eyes clouded over like he had glaucoma his cheeks sunk in
02:58:33.260
in his were they both gay see that's the thing they were both buried oh now the younger one yeah
02:58:40.620
the younger one said his wife would was his wife went off in a storm because she said she tested
02:58:47.420
after he was diagnosed with it and she was tested with full-blown aids and so it was basically like
02:58:53.900
you've killed me and i don't blame her she wouldn't talk to him ever again so it in that circumstance the
02:59:00.620
claim was that you know he was the one that contracted it um we don't know in either case
02:59:07.420
because they were both supposedly publicly they were straight men with wives uh whether they were
02:59:12.940
on the down low uh by curious or having gay sex on the side uh or whether they contracted it from a
02:59:19.580
woman were they obviously like would you guess were they fruity or no no not really i mean they were
02:59:26.860
of course back in those days especially you know we had expressions like smear the queer and bag the
02:59:31.820
fag i mean if anybody even seemed like you gotta watch the language man you can't drop that f word
02:59:38.540
which one therefore oh the f i'm sorry about don't ever say that okay okay i get it i forget we're in
02:59:46.300
different times and it's just and the q word don't say that either the q word okay well so we had those two
02:59:53.180
uh inappropriate expressions back then um and i don't support the use of them and i know this
02:59:58.540
channel doesn't um but it just goes to show the hostility that was openly out there in those days
03:00:03.820
and people got beaten up even on the suspicion of something like that so any conversation you know
03:00:10.140
that might have revealed something along those lines was very very very guarded yeah okay cool well
03:00:16.380
thanks for calling in and telling us the stories i appreciate it absolutely you all have a good night and
03:00:21.420
thanks again yeah you too always good talking to you buddy i'm gonna read the super chats okay um
03:00:28.780
these people are at parties alone or hanging out with someone who knows nothing about their sex life
03:00:34.460
um percent of the population is a false statement if you see a hot woman who's promiscuous she
03:00:39.420
promiscuous she is that percent whether she's one out of 20 or one out of four all these people are
03:00:43.820
loners oh actually when you're talking about the bi guys i don't know if i told you this story before
03:00:49.340
um when i was single i was on um a dating app and i matched with a guy at my gym but i just on i just
03:00:58.540
unmatched him because i don't know i like looked closer at the profile and like him in person i just
03:01:03.500
changed my mind i was like no and anyways long story short i was working out at the gym and someone
03:01:09.580
in true i never talked to him like in person like we just matched on the app for a day unmatched that was
03:01:14.380
it and i'd never spoken to him in person but someone i knew introduced me to him a different
03:01:19.820
day and they're like oh and that's his boyfriend and i was like oh my god that's how women get aids
03:01:26.620
it's like oh my god yeah i never said yeah because i was like what the why are you on bumble
03:01:33.900
all right hi um so a condom doesn't cover the base of the twig or the berries which is the area
03:01:39.820
that gets the most friction and grinding so don't risk it uh well everyone's got to risk it to some
03:01:46.140
extent if you're going to be celibate forever you don't know that's the thing i know a lot of women
03:01:50.220
disqualified bisexual men as they should but a lot of guys who i wouldn't care if my girls buy i'm not
03:01:56.540
down for that either man no anyone that has that weird kind of sexuality confusion fluid crap no thanks
03:02:04.460
new um sorry avery i'm i'm glad no one wants to do me um wisdom king for hsv take oh wait i read that
03:02:14.140
already uh is there any more callers we have alex is the last caller okay is that the guy that had the
03:02:25.340
audio issues no that's gary you try bringing my back to alex uh we can but let's just keep it short okay
03:02:38.860
it says joining okay we'll try to bring gary up while alex is joining all right gary i'm trying
03:02:45.740
you again your audio better be okay gary yeah am i better oh so much better what's up gary you got herpes
03:02:59.340
no no herpes for me i do have a story i got actually i got a confession okay
03:03:11.420
someone hello someone killed yeah i'm kidding um what's the confession
03:03:21.980
well i'm like hearing i'm hearing the stream because you have youtube open in the background
03:03:27.580
somewhere okay i got it sorry about that so yeah basically i do not have herpes as far as i know
03:03:35.340
uh my confession though is that listening to this stream it did give me uh i did a lot of googling
03:03:41.100
while the stream was going on and like i am a bit concerned i'm probably gonna get myself tested this
03:03:46.860
week because apparently you could have herpes and be asymptomatic so i mean i've never had an outbreak
03:03:53.500
but i also like do not routinely get tested and i do routinely hook up and i actually wanted to
03:04:01.820
i guess i'm gonna snitch a little bit too because when i hear people talk about like their condom use and
03:04:07.660
that kind of stuff it makes me question if they're even getting laid because like i don't think people
03:04:13.660
are using condoms in my experience most people are not and in fact the last time i could even remember
03:04:19.900
myself suggesting using a condom like the the woman in question like she took it as an offense
03:04:26.460
and the time before that it was kind of the same deal that like me suggesting it or pulling it out was
03:04:33.340
kind of like i just brought into the conversation the idea of stds when really like especially if
03:04:39.740
you're going to sleep together after just a short period of time it's kind of like well you're vibing
03:04:44.860
and everything's good so we like each other it's almost awkward and and it's treated that way yeah
03:04:51.100
nobody's gonna that's why the guy was saying to get tested first i'm like nobody's gonna do that
03:04:55.660
like they're just not yeah and in fact so like i do have some sense of my cleanliness i guess because
03:05:03.340
like i've been in three long-term relationships i guess over the past decade and then each time
03:05:08.860
which is honestly laughable when we were getting more serious at all three times and i guess it
03:05:15.900
makes sense because if i intend to get serious with somebody i'm a little bit like i'm honest and i and we
03:05:20.940
talk about our past a bit i mean i don't ever think that i've gotten a full uh carfax on a girl
03:05:27.420
that's not something they really do but there typically is a conversation where we talk about
03:05:32.460
what exclusivity looks like and that kind of stuff and then all three of my last relationships they
03:05:37.740
asked me to get tested and then confession time again i did not get tested i literally just waited
03:05:43.260
for them to get tested and once they said they were good i was like yeah i'm good too because i mean
03:05:47.580
we'd already been sleeping together for like two to three months so i'd imagine i must not have
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anything i would have given it to them so how often how often do you get tested i've never been
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i got tested once in college and yeah not clear i don't get tested but to me it's like i like what
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like the last guy the last medical guy he made me feel a little bit better because i definitely number
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one i don't i've never gone down on a chick unless we were in a relationship again i know that's not like
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a great barrier as far as protection goes but then i also do like a visual inspection like i i don't
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i i don't really interact in any way if anything seems off visually and again have you ever gotten
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there and changed your mind like you saw something or like yeah absolutely really what'd you see
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i've seen something questionable on the thigh and like i actually when it when you talk about herpes so
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i got two quick stories one actually was not a story but the one closest person to me that i
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knew that had herpes i had a boss and we actually we ran like a logistics company it was his company
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but it was a small company so we actually used to dispatch out of his house and like his his home
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office and i like had been working in his office at one point when he was dealing with an outbreak
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and he was kind of giving me the play-by-play as he was like treating himself and he was like
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specifically it was very much uh centered on his thighs so that made me aware that oh i didn't even
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know that i thought like genital herpes makes me think it's on your genitals right yeah his were not
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on his junk it was on his thigh so at one point i i was getting with the chick and then yeah i saw
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something questionable on her thigh and i just made an excuse and got out of there because i had actually
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got like i said i didn't feel good which is true actually i was like i i actually think i'm gonna
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throw up which i wasn't that sick but i i really felt like oh my god like i like i dodged a bullet
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because i mean the thigh is almost scarier because how are you not going to come in contact with
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somebody's thigh what was it like a blister i i never got close enough to to really be able to tell
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but it did it just looked it looked um just red and agitated honestly it could have been it could
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have been a bad bug bite but from as far as i was sitting i mean you weren't you weren't you
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weren't testing it you were like no i'm not gonna find out today never talk to her again either and
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and i have actually a story just from a couple of weeks ago i matched with a girl on a dating app and
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we talked for like three four days set up a date and then literally as i was getting ready to
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leave my house she she she messaged me and said hey by the way i have the herb is that a deal break
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i honestly debated whether i was even going to message her back but i did i did let her know that
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yeah absolutely it's a deal breaker but it really like since then i have not used the apps and i
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probably will return at some point but um it's it it is it's scary out there i could only imagine i'm
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like they say that men are less susceptible to this stuff and i could only imagine that at some
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point i probably slept with somebody that has something and i've just been dodging bullets and
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maybe not like i'm gonna get tested and i don't still don't know how i feel about the whole hooking
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up thing but well how many how many women do you hook up with a year would you say
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uh it's it obviously depends on the year not not a crazy amount like because i i honestly
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so again confession time part of the reason i almost cannot use uh condoms is because
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just like i guess the combination of hookup culture and corn like i can't get stimulated enough to even
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finish when i don't have the condom on or sorry when i do have the condom on and then i i again that
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actually and i think i i've talked to other guys that have this problem but i never hear it talked
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about in red pill spaces is that if you if you use a condom and then you can't finish girls take offense
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to that too they it's almost like you're inadvertently calling them ugly and and and it's like why can't
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you finish and what's wrong with me and they literally will like start having kind of uh uh uh
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existential crisis type of thing and and like all of a sudden now you have to like reassure them that
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they're beautiful they're desirable and all this different stuff when it's like to me it's just
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simpler to just take the condom off and honestly i really only hook up when i just feel like i've
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kind of been dry for a while so going back to the original question last year actually i had a
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girlfriend for half of the year and then when i was single i probably hooked up with like six or seven
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chicks okay well it's not like you're like so that's in a year seven or eight um well that's not like
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like i've heard worse so yeah no i'm not i'm not um i'm not chad or tyrone yeah and um but that that
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that to me though it actually is more telling because well it's also how many times did you hook
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up with them because like it we said earlier like if someone has something and you hook up with them
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once you're not really that likely to get it right if it's and it's also it's also too when they got
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infected because if they were just infected they're more likely to spread it but if the girl
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caught it like five years ago it's not really that likely that she'll spread it um allegedly according
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according to what i've read you know i'm not a doctor pearl you're making me feel better about
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this which is not a good thing i'm just going to keep doing more risky stuff well i hope you're right
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well i mean well i hope you know that if you do get it a lot of the guys just lie and keep having
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sex and that was that was the last point and i'll finish here is that what i was thinking is that
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like i have again as a guy we don't care about how attractive our friends are so i have friends that
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are very successful with women much more successful than me and i have friends that are that they struggle
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really bad so based on outcomes i'd imagine that i'm probably somewhere in the top 25 and again
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that's just based on how women judge us superficially on an act like i i don't imagine i'm just better
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than this many people but my results are probably in the top 25. i know guys that are probably in the
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top five or maybe even yeah like let's say top five because it's hard to know who's in the top one
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percent that's probably like athletes and rappers and stuff like that none of my friends are people and
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do you know of any of them having std scares but i it's also tough because people don't not even
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scares 100 percent that all my biggest player friends have basically all been burnt before
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really every single one of them yeah and they've been lucky enough to not get herpes as far as i know
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or they might not have told me uh but they've almost all gone chlamydia yeah that's the common one
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yeah gonorrhea which i guess they don't necessarily get symptoms from yeah chlamydia gonorrhea no
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symptoms for for most people but that but they get the trip they call it right those two aren't bad
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is what i've heard is like you take an antibiotic and it's done it's not like herpes or hiv which kills
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you so yeah exactly i mean that's yeah going back to the hiv thing too i've never it like i've never in
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in like i guess 22 years of being sexually active i've never known of a straight person to have hiv i
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haven't either oh i don't know anybody wait so your player friends though no i can second that too
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i i've never met do you think your player do you think your player friend would tell you if they
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got herpes i think they would yeah i think i think they'd be ashamed but i mean we tell each other
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pretty much everything and like especially like some of them are even more like it's almost like they
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they enjoy the the kind of grotesque conversation so i'd imagine they some of them would have told
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me for sure i question if others would have also be as honest in that case do they do they wear
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condoms the player friends no no no okay and again girls don't like it i mean and honestly i think my
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my like the the player guys if you can get a if you get a girl to like you enough in a short period of
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time then i think that you'd probably also get her to be okay with the condoms uh but that's kind of
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why i referenced them in the first place because to me i know i'm not like that top five percent guy
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so like i i i know that i'm actually risking messing up the whole encounter by trying to push the condom
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because it's almost like a lot of times i can see the level of attraction that i have going on it's
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almost like i've passed the barrier of yes they will sleep with me yeah but if i if i do something to
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weird make this situation weird it could all go away so like no i know imagine asking for an std tab
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like that is not gonna happen like come on oh you're offending them you're telling her she's dirty or
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like something made you think they're not so i forgot one of the callers said that i'm like yeah good
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luck like come on yeah i'm just gonna have like a a mini test kit by the bed a little consent form
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right by the candle yeah i know but yeah i just wanted to mention that because it is always odd
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to me that when the condom conversation comes up because again i don't imagine that all these guys
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who are either like the red pill content producers or the people that you see interacting like in
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call-in shows that they're all top one percent because i just don't think the average guy can whip
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out a condom and not mess up the whole situation yeah um i don't know i don't sleep with women do i
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get mpa do you have thoughts on that with women in condoms um they say there are major cities like atlanta
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baltimore where the women will take offense if you try to whip out one
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um in my opinion just just use them especially on the first couple of days man like you the first
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especially if you're banging a girl on the first night you gotta have one man come on now well you
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see the the problem is doug is like i said is that i typically only kind of dip my my foot back in the
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dating pool when i'm like trying to like bust the slump or like like so it's like for me to just be
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like adding in layers of protection it's also like i'm wasting more of my time just trying to like
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like clear the pipes you know well you know you could get the gift that keeps on giving
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no you're right you're right no this show honestly it's made me really consider
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either just just taking the hit and and and putting in the extra time that it would take to
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have condoms be a thing or or just like not care as much about hooking up because
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it is uh it is a minefield out out there even like i lived in uh should we say what city where
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we live in does it matter if you want yeah go ahead yeah so i i live in phoenix i was originally from
03:17:08.540
canada and uh i moved here when i was 21 so i was just old enough to go out and uh drink and go to
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the bars and stuff like that and like uh the first couple of months that i lived here i i had like uh
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picked up a chick for the first time and went back to her place and this this girl was like uh maybe just
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slightly above average looking uh she if i think most people if they saw her they would probably assume
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this is the kind of girl that is not promiscuous um she was uh long story short and then after we
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hooked up like i kind of expressed her that like i'm surprised that things progressed as quickly as
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they did and then she proceeded to tell me about one of her friends who she showed me as well who did
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absolutely like she looked like a librarian she actually was a librarian she looked like the kind of
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girl that you would probably have to date for months before she gave it up and this girl told me that