Modern Women Are DELUSIONAL About LIZZO
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss body positivity, fat shaming, and body dysmorphia. We also discuss whether or not Lizzo is fat or not fat, and why it's so hard for women to be fat.
Transcript
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um i have another clip for us to react to so pull up click clip number three
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all right blessing what oh move the bottle yeah okay
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okay oh this is what i was talking about earlier it started from the beginning if you don't mind
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blessing i think like women are just fat today which is nice which women like which most women
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like to be fat rather than slim now do you think they like i don't think they like oh yeah yeah
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we like the big thick thighs yeah but that's not they like they like okay a big butt with a small
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waist that's not yeah you can't have a big butt a small waist without surgery but this one here
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she's got a great shape she's she's got a big butt small waist naturally is is it depends on your
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state you wouldn't say she's fat though so no not fat but i mean most women like to be bigger now
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nowadays rather than deem skinny maybe they pretend they're happy because there's body positivity
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i'm happy big girl's life you mean as big as lisa or yeah she's happy she's happy okay
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okay let me let me ask you let me let me she's making money one to ten what do you rank lizzo one
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to ten ten ten ah based on no based on money based on how much personality okay okay no okay look one
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at a time she's so confident she's so confident do you really think she's cries on instagram live oh i
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don't know that much about her i just know i see her and she's mad surprised do you genuinely okay do you
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genuinely think she's happy at like 300 pounds how could one be happy does she not look happy
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or no i think she looks i don't know i don't know her personally so i but from what i can see i feel
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like she's looks wise what do you what do you rank her social media is very deceptive okay okay so
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so one to ten you would trade your body with hers
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let me finish let me finish you said she had a good figure yeah do you she would be offended if you
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said you said she looks like lizzo would would you be offended if i said you look fat like lizzo
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but do you think that's just what is that's like she has a good figure because she's skinny
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who's skinny who's really i think women trying to be nice i would prefer lizzo than a really skinny
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skinny one yeah but you're kind of extreme again no it's the same thing you said really skinny okay
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no i would i would take no i would take no butt no boobs really and then over lizzo yes yes if she
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really wanted to she couldn't you know and still no i think if she wanted to she'd do it she had
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those she was on tiktok like on the treadmill oh i don't go on tiktok i don't have tiktok i don't
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you see a whole different side of lizzo i don't have a question part though you gave her a 10 what
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what's your metric because she's confident with it so anybody anybody that's confident i think
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yeah women raised with feeling not logic it comes with with how you feel that's what i can see i was
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big and i liked it but i was big small what made you like it because i was different and i don't go
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gym i i hate gym i hate anything healthy i eat everything not healthy but i liked it then and i like
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it now i and i'm very confident do you not do you not think there's universal standards of beauty
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so when everyone walks into the room where everyone can kind of what okay when when everyone walks into
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the room you don't think everyone has a general wait blessing can you finish the sentence and then
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and then you can pause it perception of who's more beautiful and less beautiful
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so i meant like for her response too sorry i don't know these days no i'm not i'm not talking
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about these days in general well yeah and okay even even even take us in the room you don't think most
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of us like they could say who's more beautiful and less beautiful oh yeah and i'm not i'm not trying
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to put us against each other i'm not saying to be rated but like i'm saying like you don't think in
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general you know who the pretty friend in your friend group is yeah i think what she's doing okay
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why is it so hard for women to admit that lizzo is not a 10 and why don't we see the same body
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positivity for men it's all about the woman's empowerment like women want to feel so empowered
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through i guess years under under the patriarchy that anything goes there is women can do no
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wrong in anyone's eyes you can be fat you can be whole you can do this you can slap up slap up a guy
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it don't matter as long as you're a woman everything you do gets a lie so now you just delude yourselves
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you just lie to each other at your own detriment because to say someone like lizzo is attractive and
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healthy and homegirl said myself like i don't like gym i don't like to do anything healthy that's
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someone to run away from straight away but again to say that you might be misogynistic or blah blah blah
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like anything a woman does nowadays yeah we like even when talking about uh guys and relationships
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it's always i feel like it's filled with excuses oh no he does like you it's just he does
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like you but he's no he just don't like you you just need to be straight up about certain things
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um it's a bit harsh telling your friends i'll uh you're overweight nah that's that's actually a lot
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easier than saying um you're ugly but i think yeah definitely you can change your weight you can't
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change your if your face looks like like looks like you got smashed in with a baseball bat
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what do you think tiana i don't know i feel like like you said like it's easier to judge once like
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to judge yourself and to judge someone else because then you're kind of like you're projecting what you
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view as beauty onto somebody else which isn't really important i don't know i feel like it's a very
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uncomfortable place to sit in but you don't think there's subjective standards of beauty no i do believe
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in them okay i do think that like a lot of models are really tall they're very thin it depends where
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you are but like the certain metrics that we can use or even if we take like modeling out of it like
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there's certain girls that men find more attractive because it's not always necessarily the models you
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know what i mean like there's just some girls that are like more attractive yeah i think we know i feel
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like there's an unspoken rule like i do think like we know who the pretty friend is yeah but then why
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the girls try and take out the the general view and try and make it based on the individual because
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you'll be like for me or this that when generally speaking you know whether someone's attractive or
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not so why do you feel like why do women take out the the more objective view and try to make it
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subjective as possible i think maybe i'm just gonna go for what i i think very it's a very feminine to be
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um empathetic and maybe compassionate and being a hundred percent direct and honest and
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like straight slaying down the facts is a very masculine trait so i'm not going to go to these
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two girls and tell them that they look a certain way i'm not going to rate them objectively from my
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perspective because i just like to what end what does that bring either one of us here you asked the
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someone asked you a question though so why would you lie i'm not gonna lie but i just feel like okay
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if you say that it's very masculine to just uh just you know give a very just a fact yeah and
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then say it's feminine to be empathetic you can you can you know kindly say to somebody the truth
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i've done it so many times i think there's a friend's ugly no i'm talking about like there's
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been true if their character is ugly if they are they're not we're not asking about character look
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straight at your face i know but okay if we're talking about weight i did have a friend who's
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having difficulty putting up having a child and i told her it's because you're fat and i'm her closest
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friend and she took it and she but because of i i'm not just some stranger like saying yeah you're
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fine you go girl and stuff i apologize but um i i told her no it's because you're fat and you have
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to take responsibility i as a friend i'm not going to sit here like i have my own life and my time i'm
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giving it to you if you're going to sit there telling me the whole the same circular argument
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that's actually disrespectful to me like if you're if you really genuinely want to get pregnant
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sort your diet out and now guess what she's doing great that's it so she's better looking now would
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you say now that she's lost the weight the objective was to get pregnant and her weight
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was a massive thing but it was i mean that that's actually that's the way that her weight loss has
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helped her and the bonus is that she's actually attractive so the goal wasn't to get attractive
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the goal was to get healthy and you know by a result she became attractive because she is healthy
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does that make sense yeah and i told her i'm a friend i would consider myself quite feminine
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and a woman and i told her you're fat you're ugly and i think it's the human thing i get i
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i think we get too caught up with masculine energy feminine energy what's human to do is to look out
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for somebody i think um women are kind of more socialized to kind of beat around the bush you
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know i mean like to be coy um it's kind of rewarded when women are like oh look they're not as like oh i
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want this this and this i think women are rewarded in romantic relationships and friendships and
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relationships with people in society so so if you know that why would you still purposely like or
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willingly do it willingly so you just said that um women are kind of socialized to behave a certain
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type of way and you know that way you're socialized is negative in terms of creating a better outcome
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for all but yet you still sat here and still went i think i i still do this because obviously that's what
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i'm used to i find it extremely uncomfortable to go to someone and call them fat or call them ugly
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even if they asked you so if i said am i fat and i was visibly fat you'd find it uncomfortable to be
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honest with me and be like you know i would find that really uncomfortable for me i feel like the
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say the words outside out loud like i can think certain things in my mind but to directly say to
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someone straight up like i think you're ugly especially if it's in negative terms it would be
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very difficult for me so we're friends yeah so if i said if i said if i gained let's say if i gained 50 pounds
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yeah and i said did i get fat this is different because you would you because you're pearl yeah
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pearl can handle anything she wants you to be so direct but had german au pairs growing up
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to german nannies so i know she can handle it so okay people don't understand what german nannies german nannies
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but so i feel like it also you have to have um a bit of tact and i feel like you need to gauge the
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person as well let's let's let's role play okay oh look i'm beluga i'm beluga okay okay okay okay
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i just got rejected for the 10th time in a row um and he said it was because i'm too thick did i
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did i get fat i know i ate one or two brownies okay or ten but am i am i fat what's your bmi i don't
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know i haven't i haven't i don't weight myself do you have scales at home no okay i have scales i avoid them
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like the plague no it just gives me anxiety i can't get up the scale okay interesting what do
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you think your bmi is i don't know i just i don't even know how bmi works i just i think it's like a
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scale that's like not real so i feel like they just make that up you know doctors to be mean okay do you
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think you're overweight i mean i question it a little bit but that's why i came to you to get the truth
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okay you see how this is really hard for me you see how like i went to every other option
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or beating around the bush yeah i was doing so well i came with a bmi like she could have got
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on the scales we could have worked out together okay let me let me let me try it with eddie let me try
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you're like all right all right all right so so this is you know i'm at you know i'm just like
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shaking all over the place yeah yeah eddie it's been a minute since i've seen you how are you doing
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i'm good are you telling me what i'm good how are you i'm good i'm good um anyways i i i was walking
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here and someone called me a whale a whale yeah yeah did i did i get fat i ain't gonna lie when i
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did see you you was looking a bit more chunky than last time i seen you still but looks all right the
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cheeks are grown oh okay okay so just chunky i'm not i'm not fat no i ain't gonna lie you put a mad
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weight in it like drop a few drop a little something something in you oh but mad weight what does that
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mean am i am i fat you're fat he kind of beat around the bush too i kind of like the way you
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said it though it's playful like you was very playful with it you was just like you're fat and
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ugly yeah that's pretty crazy no okay everybody scroll back and then quote unquote she said fat and
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ugly i feel like no i think i think me me not you i don't know no i i didn't you can find out
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have a look wait wait hold on hold on if i said she's fat and ugly i said she became attractive
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because she's because she's healthy that means she would have stayed ugly no but you said like
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um i think you said like you quoted yourself he's like no you said you think you have to say i know
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i know oh okay look back okay can we bet some money or something
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but now i'm playful with it i guess i guess i respect you actually oh thank you because
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it's good to have a friend like you that will call it straight even if it hurts you you're the
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most respected friend i i have to say the thing is that there needs to be context okay so this she
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tells me this over and over again and i try to you know in a polite way and if like um the thing is
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and like i said i am not my existence isn't to just pacify you you know and if you're saying that oh
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you know i have this issue and my weight is this and everything and i was like you know what i have
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to cut this crap you are fat and her radical acceptance is the most powerful thing that's
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when change actually ensued she got healthy and she had a baby that was the objective
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so so much uh problems were avoided with me just being honest with her and if she's an adult
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she's going to take that and not just suddenly forget who i am i'm a good friend 100 agree with
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you i think there's a way of like doing it with tact so you can be playful about it but
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if you're honest and real with person it won't affect your relationship i wasn't mean i was like
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you're fat you're fat that's it i feel like if you're honest with someone and factual with the
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person a relationship cannot be destroyed i feel like if someone's real with you and tells you
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something straight if it was a real friendship i don't think would affect it is why you don't do it
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for fear of losing that relationship with the person the the reason i don't do it is that i find
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it extremely uncomfortable i don't think i'm i'm not used to doing it i don't practice it
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i don't know i don't know would you like people to be honest with you maybe not no oh you like
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people to lie to you mandem's sliding them deals and sell dreams no because i all believe those
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dreams oh yeah and i don't see a problem with that like think about it hypothetically let's say if i
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think that um i'm like really crazy amazing like really really beautiful and someone's selling me
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dreams and i believe the dreams he sells me happily ever after in my delusion oh so why pop the bubble
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as many of you know i was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this
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