JustPearlyThings - October 24, 2023


Pearl Gets Brutal About Fat Chicks


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In this episode, we talk about obesity and why we need to see more healthy women on the front cover of magazines. We also talk about what it means to be overweight in the modern world and why it is so common.

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00:00:00.000 Because otherwise they could, you know, commit suicide or something.
00:00:02.280 Do you go to a basketball game and look to see, like an NBA game?
00:00:07.820 What do you guys have?
00:00:08.520 It's football, right?
00:00:09.340 Football here.
00:00:09.960 You go to a football game here and you try to see average football players.
00:00:14.080 Average?
00:00:14.540 Like below average football players play football here when you go to a professional game.
00:00:19.020 Do we see them?
00:00:19.660 No, do you go there to see that?
00:00:21.320 Oh, well, no.
00:00:22.740 So then why on the cover of magazines, which is supposed to be the epitome of beauty, do
00:00:26.400 we have below average women on it? 1.00
00:00:28.000 Right.
00:00:29.320 Like why?
00:00:29.740 Like, why is that?
00:00:30.900 Why do we need that?
00:00:32.380 I feel ashamed that I don't like it.
00:00:34.300 I don't want to see it.
00:00:35.100 I think you're right about the fact that they're doing it to, because, you know, if you want
00:00:39.180 to talk about the health system and the way the world's set up, they don't want people
00:00:41.860 to come out of a BCE.
00:00:44.080 Right.
00:00:44.320 So they're going to make it look like it's okay.
00:00:46.400 They don't want you to.
00:00:47.380 So why wouldn't we have healthy people on the front of magazines? 0.99
00:00:50.140 I'm not saying like.
00:00:50.720 Because they don't want that.
00:00:51.580 Yeah.
00:00:51.980 Yeah.
00:00:52.200 But you said we need that earlier.
00:00:53.940 No, but I was saying that for the people that don't actually fit.
00:00:57.320 I think in my head, I'm thinking for the people that actually, because a person that actually
00:01:01.280 cannot overcome obesity, and for the rest of their life, till the age of 60, 70, they're
00:01:05.960 still going to be overweight.
00:01:07.780 Those people are probably feeling, yes, like they're feeling okay.
00:01:10.840 They're empowered.
00:01:11.880 That's not a thing.
00:01:12.380 Would you rather be empowered than commit suicide? 0.99
00:01:15.020 Because people think, ugh, look at you, you're fat. 0.99
00:01:17.600 But when you're overeating, you're slowly committing suicide. 0.67
00:01:20.680 Exactly.
00:01:21.300 My mother did it.
00:01:22.340 Wow.
00:01:23.080 She died.
00:01:24.160 Wow.
00:01:24.660 I was five months old.
00:01:25.420 Her cause of death was severe obesity.
00:01:27.140 And then when my daughter started gaining the weight, I was freaking out.
00:01:30.300 Right.
00:01:31.040 And so that's why we're on a mission.
00:01:32.880 Yeah.
00:01:33.060 But don't you think there's a certain level, though?
00:01:34.600 Obviously, there's obesity and there's, because I feel like the modeling world has always promoted
00:01:40.400 unhealthy, unhealthiness, if that makes sense.
00:01:42.580 Even the slim women, slim women with like six and like very small, do you know what I'm
00:01:47.080 saying?
00:01:47.380 That would, it looked like they weren't eating at a certain time.
00:01:49.100 I don't think so.
00:01:49.120 If you look at, I always hear that, but I like, I look at Marilyn Monroe, she was healthy.
00:01:53.200 Yeah, but they're talking about one person, though.
00:01:54.540 There's a lot of, a lot of women in the modeling world was very slim and they wouldn't eat or 1.00
00:01:59.020 they wouldn't do something just to fit in a certain category, do you know what I'm saying?
00:02:01.640 I mean, there was some, but I just, maybe for like an early 2000s, but I think if you
00:02:06.380 look at the last like 100 years, I think most women on the covers were just objectively beautiful. 1.00
00:02:11.960 What's the average weight you would say?
00:02:14.360 Let's see.
00:02:15.400 I don't know off the top of my head.
00:02:16.780 I mean, as a Ford model, the girls who were in straight size modeling, they were size four. 1.00
00:02:21.300 And that's because the samples are made in a size four.
00:02:24.820 Is your four different from UK four?
00:02:26.920 Oh yeah, it is a bit.
00:02:28.540 Yeah, but more like a two.
00:02:30.000 I think it would be more like a two.
00:02:31.080 Two hair.
00:02:32.140 The average, the average woman.
00:02:33.920 She's gone.
00:02:35.140 Okay, the average woman is five four. 1.00
00:02:37.800 I'm in America and I can do UK in a second.
00:02:39.980 Five four, 20 years old and weighs 170 pounds.
00:02:44.020 What's that in stone, please?
00:02:45.640 The pounds.
00:02:46.240 Okay, okay.
00:02:47.080 Close my mouth.
00:02:50.580 Average stones.
00:02:52.400 I don't actually know.
00:02:53.200 But that's overweight.
00:02:59.800 I would say that that average that she just quoted would be over.
00:03:01.880 12 stone.
00:03:02.940 12, 12.14 stone.
00:03:04.580 Okay.
00:03:05.020 Because I would think that average is between eight to 12.
00:03:07.760 I think if you're in a good in shape 12, there's good in shape 12 women. 1.00
00:03:12.880 Anything above that, then we're talking obesity.
00:03:15.360 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:03:16.660 I mean, I think it's BMI.
00:03:19.100 To be honest, sorry.
00:03:20.140 To be honest, it depends.
00:03:21.500 I think like around 10 years ago, it used to be way different.
00:03:27.660 I think now they kind of raised it.
00:03:29.860 A little bit.
00:03:30.340 Yeah, yeah.
00:03:31.340 10 years ago, I went.
00:03:33.400 I don't know.
00:03:33.840 I was like 65 kilos.
00:03:35.280 I don't know what that is.
00:03:36.220 Sorry.
00:03:36.440 In stones.
00:03:38.700 It must be like 165 in America.
00:03:42.660 2.2 to 1.
00:03:43.620 Yeah.
00:03:44.140 And they would already say, oh, you should try to lose weight, you know, for your height,
00:03:48.360 whatever.
00:03:49.100 Now, if you look at that, they're like, yeah, you're perfect.
00:03:51.880 You can be a model.
00:03:53.000 Yeah.
00:03:53.160 So it really changed in the last decade, I would say.
00:03:56.840 Really, it did.
00:03:57.500 So it was about around 10 years ago, was there plus size models?
00:04:00.940 Is that a new thing?
00:04:01.960 I'll be honest.
00:04:02.620 Not really.
00:04:03.560 There definitely were on America's Next Top Model.
00:04:05.780 I mean, it wasn't that as common, though.
00:04:07.680 But I definitely, I used to watch Tyra Banks. 0.60
00:04:10.860 Anyone?
00:04:11.260 Yeah.
00:04:11.820 Anyone?
00:04:12.560 There was some.
00:04:13.620 But they weren't like the super.
00:04:17.820 Yeah.
00:04:18.100 Yeah.
00:04:18.320 Like you see today, they're just kind of like, they're like 10s.
00:04:21.220 Big boned.
00:04:22.680 10s, all right.
00:04:24.700 10s not big.
00:04:25.840 No, 10s not big at all.
00:04:27.600 12s.
00:04:27.960 For the modeling industry.
00:04:29.180 Like this one, I'm saying for the modeling world, that's quite big, yeah.
00:04:31.640 But again, it's like when you go to an NBA game, I want to see good basketball players.
00:04:35.600 Like it's supposed to be the epitome of beauty.
00:04:38.140 But now we're rewarding average looking.
00:04:40.440 I don't want to see average chicks like faces on the cover of magazines. 1.00
00:04:43.760 Why don't I want to see average bodies?
00:04:45.820 I hear that.
00:04:46.160 But if she's a good, I'm not saying plus plus, but if she's a good size 12 with good curves in that, men don't want to see that. 1.00
00:04:52.720 We don't really want to just see slim girls all the time. 1.00
00:04:54.700 I'll be honest.
00:04:55.060 I believe that.
00:04:55.700 I believe that some men like that.
00:04:57.560 I really do.
00:04:58.420 To be honest, it's typically broke men.
00:05:01.180 Because if you look at rich men, yeah, yeah.
00:05:03.300 If you look at, like, it's so Catholic. 0.94
00:05:04.920 Like, I'm just, I don't like liars.
00:05:06.780 No offense.
00:05:07.440 But it's like, when you see rich men, what do they have on their arms?
00:05:11.500 Slim women. 0.99
00:05:11.760 But the only reason why they have slim women is because the slim women are in the higher echelons of places where the other women. 1.00
00:05:19.940 No, not in beauty.
00:05:20.640 No, let's not talk about beauty only.
00:05:22.040 I'm talking about venues, certain venues, certain places that they get to go to.
00:05:26.660 Certain women can't get to go there. 1.00
00:05:28.320 Do you get what I'm saying?
00:05:29.100 You're telling me, Leonardo DiCaprio, if he wanted a big chick, he couldn't find one.
00:05:33.340 No, he can find one.
00:05:34.500 But I'm saying in certain, the venue, the events.
00:05:37.180 No, half these guys get their chicks from Instagram.
00:05:40.420 Come on.
00:05:41.760 They can get any chick they want. 0.99
00:05:44.120 Yeah, they can.
00:05:45.200 But do you think Leonardo's just getting in bare girls DMs, just hollering girls in their DMs?
00:05:49.520 No.
00:05:49.760 I think if he wants, I think he'll pick, like, he hollered at that one chick, the Hadid.
00:05:56.420 Who's that?
00:05:56.760 Oh.
00:05:58.200 Gigi.
00:05:58.760 Hadid?
00:05:59.180 Gigi.
00:05:59.600 Oh, Gigi.
00:06:00.500 The model, yeah.
00:06:01.240 Gigi.
00:06:01.680 I don't know what I'm saying.
00:06:03.080 It's like, if you look at the richest, most successful men, they typically have slim women. 0.92
00:06:06.960 I'm saying, if you're looking at the richest parts of events and venues,
00:06:10.620 Mayfair, whatever, and America, Manhattan, whatever, if you go to the upper echelons of
00:06:16.240 places, they've got to be, you know what I'm saying?
00:06:17.820 Do you really think that the only reason they're with slim, beautiful women is because of the events they go to?
00:06:24.020 No, but I'm saying because of the environment that they're in.
00:06:26.980 I think that was because that is society's ideal of a beautiful woman.
00:06:31.540 That's why.
00:06:32.300 And so I feel like the plus model came in when people started complaining that there wasn't a selection of variety of different sizes.
00:06:38.000 But then why is it that all around the world, they like young, beautiful, slim women everywhere, even in different societies with completely different cultures. 0.81
00:06:47.280 Please, please do not bring up this one fringent tribe in Africa. 0.98
00:06:52.500 Everyone brings up, but it's like, it's such a small percentage of the world.
00:06:56.700 What, Africa? 0.94
00:06:57.680 There's something.
00:06:58.380 No, Africa's the biggest country in the world.
00:06:59.980 No, the tribe. 0.77
00:07:00.000 They bring up some tribe in Africa that likes the fat women, but it's a very, very, I've done this conversation. 0.99
00:07:05.840 But if you think, I hear that, but if you think about it, it's the motherland.
00:07:10.280 Please don't go be disingenuous.
00:07:11.280 You know, deep down, you know that men like slim women in general. 1.00
00:07:18.660 I'm going to be honest.
00:07:19.540 I don't think they do.
00:07:20.360 I'm going to be honest.
00:07:21.420 I don't, and I'm going to say this, coming from being a black man. 0.86
00:07:26.200 Okay.
00:07:26.540 If I'm talking about being a black man and from a black perspective of, I feel like majority of us men like thicker women.
00:07:34.040 Okay.
00:07:34.360 Well, and even.
00:07:35.420 Life will be Jordan. 0.99
00:07:35.940 No, no, no.
00:07:36.400 They have big cheeks on their arms.
00:07:37.200 But you keep talking about celebrity men that are going to be around higher women that, certain women.
00:07:43.140 I'm from a 1% family.
00:07:45.020 My dad, my dad, my dad is a top 1% earner.
00:07:47.300 I grew up around in a wealthy neighborhood.
00:07:48.940 I'm telling you, they do not put fat chicks on their arms. 1.00
00:07:51.500 I hear that. 0.93
00:07:51.820 In high class, in high class society and celebrities want people with the option to not have a fat chick on their arm. 1.00
00:07:57.960 Do not. 0.72
00:07:58.700 All right.
00:07:59.000 But what, even like I was having a conversation the other day with, with a woman and she was a slim woman. 1.00
00:08:03.840 She's from America as well.
00:08:05.180 She's American, I think like Atlanta or whatever.
00:08:08.520 And she said when she was slim, she was only getting approached by white men.
00:08:12.020 Okay.
00:08:12.520 She put, she put on a lot of weight.
00:08:14.000 No, not a lot of weight, but she's ticked, got body, whatever, blah, blah, blah. 1.00
00:08:16.960 Now she's getting approached by a lot of black men, which is what, do you get what I'm saying?
00:08:21.260 But I'm saying, if you, if you look at it on, on the Democrats thing.
00:08:24.820 Which, which successful black men that we know are dating fashions? 1.00
00:08:28.340 Are we only going to talk about successful men?
00:08:29.920 Yeah, because those are the men with options.
00:08:31.500 Broke men don't have as many options as rich men. 1.00
00:08:33.260 Broke men definitely have options. 1.00
00:08:34.020 They do not have as many options as rich men.
00:08:36.200 So if you look at the men with the most options to look, okay.
00:08:38.680 So if we want to see what women want, we got to look at the women with the most option. 1.00
00:08:41.640 Who do the most beautiful, the youngest, most fertile women pick? 1.00
00:08:45.360 If we want to look at men, what do men like?
00:08:47.160 We have to look at the men with the most options. 0.97
00:08:48.740 Because it's not really fair to say, oh, I like fat chicks. 1.00
00:08:51.060 If I make, you know, $10 an hour at Taco Bell, right?
00:08:54.460 Like you can't, you don't get it.
00:08:56.180 No, I get that.
00:08:56.680 I get that.
00:08:59.500 But obviously if you're going, if you're talking about celebrities, celebrities are guided.
00:09:03.380 No, I didn't, but I didn't just say celebrities.
00:09:05.140 I also said I'm from, my dad is in like, he's a top 1% earner.
00:09:10.180 I grew up with 10 siblings in a 10 bedroom mansion in a community where many people made
00:09:14.660 that amount of money.
00:09:15.880 Yeah.
00:09:16.060 So, so I've been around a successful wealthy men and they don't put fat chicks. 0.62
00:09:20.520 Sometimes they, they do get fat later, but they don't appreciate that.
00:09:24.200 You know what I mean?
00:09:24.700 So.