Pro Choice Activist Gets GRILLED By The Entire Panel
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of abortion. Is it better to abort a baby before birth or after birth? Is it a blob or a baby? What is the difference between a baby and a blob? Is a blob a blob or a child? What does it mean when someone says a baby is a blob and what does it have to do with it?
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I don't understand when girls do this. It's like, how are we supposed to know what you meant?
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By listening to me instead of speaking over me?
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No, no, no, no, because we did. We listened to what you said and that was what you said.
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The reason why I don't care about consciousness is because there's no real valuable self-awareness in a baby.
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And when I classify baby as a thing that is being born, that doesn't mean I don't think they should be protected.
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And looked after, because I want our population to thrive.
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If we just throw babies in dumpsters and treat them like shit, that's bad.
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Obviously, that's a net negative for society in general.
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But when we're talking about a blob, which is what I literally referenced.
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I think she's trying to say before it's been born.
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I think she's trying to, that's what she's trying to say.
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No, I'm just trying to understand her because everyone's getting on to her.
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You're conflating two things that I'm trying to talk about.
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That's a net negative for the baby first before it's a net negative for society.
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That just further complicates what you're saying.
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How can you skip over the fact that it's a net negative for the baby before you jump to it's a net negative for society?
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Something that's a net negative to a baby is a net negative to a society.
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And it's like the love just makes up these words that make no sense.
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I understand what you're saying about early pregnancy.
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Because I understand that you would still consider it fine to end the life of the child even a day before it's born.
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So you wouldn't end the life of the child a day before it's born?
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Yeah, if it can come out and live, it's viable, yeah.
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So even in that late stage of pregnancy, it's better for the woman to deliver the child and that child have a chance of life?
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I think if it's viable, then yeah, it's a life because its viability proves its life.
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Okay, so at what point does it, in your mind, so is it a blob at 21 weeks and one day rather than five days?
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I was talking about early pregnancy specifically because when it comes to termination, the majority of terminations are within that window, yeah.
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That's why I say I don't believe that the pain matters.
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Because I'm talking about abortion specifically, not like actually babies in front of me, Jesus Christ.
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But what do you mean by a blob? Because it still has a beating heart.
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It still has pretty much everything that we have.
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It's just not all of those things are necessarily true.
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Can I just, I just have to say, it's so, like, I just can't even imagine arguing with a doctor about what's true.
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Like, well, I mean, I mean, you could say that.
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Oh, yeah, of course, I am a little bit arrogant.
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Okay, I just want to know, okay, what, what, what is the, what?
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Well, when you're putting in sort of brain waves and things, it's giving an implication that it's capable of thought.
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Brain waves don't matter if there's no thought.
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No, actually, Pearl, Pearl, the brain's, the brain's only function is not just for thought.
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The brain actually controls so many other things apart from thought.
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So how can you say, well, if there's no thought, then, then the brain waves are not there?
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I'm saying I don't consider it important for these reasons.
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But you haven't identified anything that was untrue.
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I just gave an example of why I feel like it's not so much that it's untrue.
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It's that it's irrelevant and kind of misleading.
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No, no, no, stop, Callie, Callie, Callie, it's my show.
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Because you said, I said, what was something untrue?
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Then you said something, and then we found out it's true.
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So, that's when you were saying basically the baby gets starved of nutrients and then it, like, falls out.
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Because I've had a girl on the show describe it, and she said it was, like, basically, like, fully formed.
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She was, like, surprised how developed it was when it happened to her.
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People often are, I mean, it's, yeah, it depends.
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If it's surgical, then it's going to be a vacuum, which just vacuums the baby apart.
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If it's medical, then it's going to be the two pills, mifepristone, which breaks down the lining of the uterus,
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so, hence, depriving the baby of everything it needs.
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And then misoprostol, which causes contractions and causes the miscarriage.
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So, honestly, what people see varies a lot, because there's always a lot of blood, and it is small.
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The best way that I would say to think about this is not necessarily to look at the baby after it's been ejected and had its life ended,
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It obviously won't be alive anymore, so you won't see the signs of life.
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What I would say is if you go to videos of embryoscopy, which is where you can actually do videos of embryo or fetus inside the womb while it's alive and see what it looks like.
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So, if you go to ehd.org, it's called the Endowment for Human Development, ehd.org.
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You look for the videos of, say, like a six-week-old embryo.
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This is where most abortions take place, around six weeks after fertilization, which is eight weeks after the last period.
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You look at the video there, it's going to be a baby of, sorry, a video of a baby with eyes, with a mouth that can move its arms and legs,
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Sorry, not breathing, but it's, you know, it's beginning to do breathing movements at eight weeks and so on.
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And so, yeah, like I say, when you look at those videos of the baby living at around that time in the first trimester,
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you can see that it's, you can call it a blob, but, you know, in the same way that any of us is a blob.
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It is clearly a living human being that has most of the functions that we do, and I think it's clearly something that should be protected.
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Bullet, if a pregnant woman gets an accident caused by someone else and the fetus baby unborn child is lost.
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Pearl, did you yet state that felons have more babies than the average Joe?
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That was, they want a fairy tale where they are saved.
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And Glenn Lawrence, Al Pacino just fathered his fourth kid at 82.
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How many 82-year-old women do you know still having kids?
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Daniel, if you're not ready to become a parent, you're not ready to have sex.