JustPearlyThings - July 12, 2023


Pro Choice Activist Gets GRILLED By The Entire Panel


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Length

8 minutes

Words per minute

209.80417

Word count

1,682

Sentence count

144

Harmful content

Misogyny

7

sentences flagged

Hate speech

6

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of abortion. Is it better to abort a baby before birth or after birth? Is it a blob or a baby? What is the difference between a baby and a blob? Is a blob a blob or a child? What does it mean when someone says a baby is a blob and what does it have to do with it?

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 I don't understand when girls do this. It's like, how are we supposed to know what you meant? 1.00
00:00:03.900 By listening to me instead of speaking over me?
00:00:05.900 No, no, no, no, because we did. We listened to what you said and that was what you said.
00:00:10.480 Well, if you want me to explain it, I can do.
00:00:14.240 The reason why I don't care about consciousness is because there's no real valuable self-awareness in a baby.
00:00:21.060 But that doesn't mean I want babies to be her.
00:00:23.420 I don't think babies should be her.
00:00:24.900 And when I classify baby as a thing that is being born, that doesn't mean I don't think they should be protected.
00:00:29.860 And looked after, because I want our population to thrive.
00:00:32.720 If we just throw babies in dumpsters and treat them like shit, that's bad. 1.00
00:00:36.160 Obviously, that's a net negative for society in general.
00:00:39.300 But when we're talking about a blob, which is what I literally referenced.
00:00:43.080 I think she's trying to say before it's been born.
00:00:47.740 I think she's trying to, that's what she's trying to say.
00:00:49.180 Is that what you're trying to say?
00:00:49.980 No, she said 15 months.
00:00:51.480 You don't carry a baby for 15 months.
00:00:53.460 No, I'm just trying to understand her because everyone's getting on to her.
00:00:56.000 I'm just trying to understand her.
00:00:56.840 Are you sure she said 15 months?
00:00:58.560 I'm just trying to give her a chance.
00:00:59.800 That's not what I meant.
00:01:00.500 Wait, wait, wait.
00:01:01.140 You're conflating two things that I'm trying to talk about.
00:01:04.480 You guys will not talk over my producer.
00:01:06.700 That's a net negative for the baby first before it's a net negative for society. 0.86
00:01:11.640 So you even skipped over that part.
00:01:14.060 That just further complicates what you're saying.
00:01:17.480 How can you skip over the fact that it's a net negative for the baby before you jump to it's a net negative for society?
00:01:24.240 Something that's a net negative to a baby is a net negative to a society.
00:01:28.900 It's a net negative to everybody.
00:01:29.980 I just don't understand.
00:01:30.900 Words have meaning.
00:01:32.240 When you start calling a child a blob.
00:01:34.500 Yeah, that's crazy.
00:01:35.440 And it's like the love just makes up these words that make no sense.
00:01:38.440 If it's an early pregnancy, it is a blob. 0.92
00:01:42.020 So can I clarify then?
00:01:44.760 I understand what you're saying about early pregnancy.
00:01:46.800 What about late pregnancy?
00:01:47.700 Because I understand that you would still consider it fine to end the life of the child even a day before it's born.
00:01:53.340 No.
00:01:54.240 So you wouldn't end the life of the child a day before it's born?
00:01:55.480 No, if it's viable.
00:01:57.220 Oh, viability.
00:01:57.980 Okay, so 21.5 weeks.
00:02:00.760 Yeah, if it can come out and live, it's viable, yeah.
00:02:03.780 Okay.
00:02:04.160 So even in that late stage of pregnancy, it's better for the woman to deliver the child and that child have a chance of life? 0.99
00:02:10.560 I think if it's viable, then yeah, it's a life because its viability proves its life.
00:02:15.620 Okay, so at what point does it, in your mind, so is it a blob at 21 weeks and one day rather than five days?
00:02:23.480 It's very difficult.
00:02:24.500 I was talking about early pregnancy specifically because when it comes to termination, the majority of terminations are within that window, yeah.
00:02:31.540 Okay.
00:02:31.860 That's why I say I don't believe that the pain matters.
00:02:34.520 Because I'm talking about abortion specifically, not like actually babies in front of me, Jesus Christ.
00:02:39.460 But what do you mean by a blob? Because it still has a beating heart.
00:02:40.980 It still has pretty much all of its organs.
00:02:42.680 It still has brain waves that are functioning.
00:02:44.500 It still has pretty much everything that we have.
00:02:47.240 It's just not all of those things are necessarily true.
00:02:50.100 Can I ask you a question?
00:02:51.460 Kelly, Kelly, Kelly.
00:02:52.440 It's getting dumb.
00:02:53.160 Can I just, I just have to say, it's so, like, I just can't even imagine arguing with a doctor about what's true.
00:03:00.200 Well, I don't have arguments from authority.
00:03:02.780 Like, well, I mean, I mean, you could say that.
00:03:05.760 It's just very arrogant.
00:03:07.520 Oh, yeah, of course, I am a little bit arrogant.
00:03:09.340 But that's what makes debate fun.
00:03:10.980 I can sit here and be like, oh.
00:03:12.880 That's not true.
00:03:13.720 And then not say really anything.
00:03:14.580 Okay, I just want to know, okay, what, what, what is the, what?
00:03:16.060 All right, I got called a trans woman twice.
00:03:18.100 I can be an asshole.
00:03:20.080 What was not true that he said?
00:03:23.280 Well, when you're putting in sort of brain waves and things, it's giving an implication that it's capable of thought.
00:03:28.880 Okay, but is that untrue?
00:03:31.500 Yes or no?
00:03:32.960 What, that it's capable of thought?
00:03:34.220 No, no, no, no, no, no, the brain waves.
00:03:36.720 Brain waves don't matter if there's no thought.
00:03:38.220 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:03:39.920 No, actually, Pearl, Pearl, the brain's, the brain's only function is not just for thought.
00:03:44.340 The brain actually controls so many other things apart from thought.
00:03:46.980 Central nervous system and such, yes.
00:03:48.300 Exactly.
00:03:48.680 So how can you say, well, if there's no thought, then, then the brain waves are not there?
00:03:53.720 That's, no, that's not what I said.
00:03:56.020 I'm saying I don't consider it important for these reasons.
00:04:01.000 Look, if we could prove.
00:04:02.800 But you said what I was saying was not true.
00:04:04.420 You didn't say it was irrelevant.
00:04:06.000 You said it was untrue.
00:04:07.260 No, I feel like the way that we.
00:04:08.120 But you haven't identified anything that was untrue.
00:04:10.020 You just said it's not relevant.
00:04:10.660 I just gave an example of why I feel like it's not so much that it's untrue.
00:04:14.660 It's that it's irrelevant and kind of misleading.
00:04:18.840 So it was true.
00:04:20.660 That there are brain waves, arguably.
00:04:22.980 But some of these things are very arguable.
00:04:25.220 Nope, nope.
00:04:25.840 Not all of these are proven perfectly.
00:04:27.660 No, no, no, stop, Callie, Callie, Callie, it's my show.
00:04:28.680 Stop, stop, stop.
00:04:30.120 Okay, so it was true.
00:04:31.620 Thank you.
00:04:33.500 It's debatable.
00:04:34.020 Because you said, I said, what was something untrue?
00:04:36.600 Then you said something, and then we found out it's true. 0.78
00:04:39.080 No, that's not entirely exact.
00:04:40.760 That's literally what happened.
00:04:42.240 Okay, thank you.
00:04:43.120 No.
00:04:43.280 Thank you.
00:04:44.060 Okay.
00:04:45.040 So, no, I'm curious.
00:04:47.380 When, what is the first term abortion like?
00:04:50.100 So, that's when you were saying basically the baby gets starved of nutrients and then it, like, falls out.
00:04:57.100 Because I've had a girl on the show describe it, and she said it was, like, basically, like, fully formed.
00:05:02.700 She was, like, surprised how developed it was when it happened to her.
00:05:05.860 People often are, I mean, it's, yeah, it depends.
00:05:07.900 Again, there's two types.
00:05:08.820 If it's surgical, then it's going to be a vacuum, which just vacuums the baby apart.
00:05:12.580 If it's medical, then it's going to be the two pills, mifepristone, which breaks down the lining of the uterus,
00:05:18.260 so, hence, depriving the baby of everything it needs.
00:05:20.920 And then misoprostol, which causes contractions and causes the miscarriage.
00:05:25.120 So, honestly, what people see varies a lot, because there's always a lot of blood, and it is small.
00:05:30.500 The best way that I would say to think about this is not necessarily to look at the baby after it's been ejected and had its life ended,
00:05:39.060 because it might be covered in a lot of blood.
00:05:41.560 You might not see it at all.
00:05:42.860 It obviously won't be alive anymore, so you won't see the signs of life.
00:05:46.080 What I would say is if you go to videos of embryoscopy, which is where you can actually do videos of embryo or fetus inside the womb while it's alive and see what it looks like.
00:05:55.560 So, if you go to ehd.org, it's called the Endowment for Human Development, ehd.org.
00:06:01.100 You look for the videos of, say, like a six-week-old embryo.
00:06:04.160 This is where most abortions take place, around six weeks after fertilization, which is eight weeks after the last period.
00:06:11.260 You look at the video there, it's going to be a baby of, sorry, a video of a baby with eyes, with a mouth that can move its arms and legs,
00:06:18.800 that is breathing, its heart is beating.
00:06:20.780 Sorry, not breathing, but it's, you know, it's beginning to do breathing movements at eight weeks and so on.
00:06:25.260 And so, yeah, like I say, when you look at those videos of the baby living at around that time in the first trimester,
00:06:32.300 you can see that it's, you can call it a blob, but, you know, in the same way that any of us is a blob.
00:06:37.180 It is clearly a living human being that has most of the functions that we do, and I think it's clearly something that should be protected.
00:06:46.880 Okay, I'm going to read Super Chats for a second.
00:06:49.200 They're all going to hate me.
00:06:50.900 They hate me last week.
00:06:52.120 What's going on?
00:06:52.780 This is going to be worse.
00:06:55.260 Okay, let me, well, we'll see.
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00:07:18.920 Okay, let's go.
00:07:21.480 Okay, blessing, are you super chatting in the back?
00:07:26.100 Can we contribute to kick this woman off? 1.00
00:07:28.540 Bullet, if a pregnant woman gets an accident caused by someone else and the fetus baby unborn child is lost.
00:07:35.080 Should that person face manslaughter charges?
00:07:37.920 93-tow-pie.
00:07:39.020 Pearl, did you yet state that felons have more babies than the average Joe?
00:07:42.540 Why can't women choose good men? 1.00
00:07:44.180 That was, they want a fairy tale where they are saved.
00:07:47.820 And Glenn Lawrence, Al Pacino just fathered his fourth kid at 82.
00:07:52.080 How many 82-year-old women do you know still having kids? 1.00
00:07:54.800 Daniel, if you're not ready to become a parent, you're not ready to have sex.
00:07:58.060 93-tow-pie.
00:07:59.460 Less people means... 0.92