She COULD NOT Accept This FACTS
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss how to deal with a man who wants to know if his wife is a good wife. We also discuss if women are actually good wives and if a man is a bad one. We also have a special guest on the show this week, who has a very interesting point of view on the matter.
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nobody can touch it nobody can touch it yeah it's like advertising i mean i was even looking at
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okay this is can we pull up hayley bieber's instagram can you imagine okay team selena by
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the way i don't know okay i don't know about the selena hayley whatever i don't i don't care
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what i was looking at was her instagram i was like she's married to a world famous pop star
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yeah and i know she's a model right but he's a world fair point but he's he's got groupies yeah
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and he's also very religious apparently and so it's like you're married to a world famous pop star
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and you still got look at look at the booty one look at it yeah look at that yeah okay and the
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funny thing is he comments on it as well so it's bizarre as long as he's okay with it he's like oh
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my god yeah but would she be okay with it if he was to be commenting under somebody else's post
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no would she be okay but i think it works one of two ways like you can't you can't take one side
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just because one's a female and then yeah back the other side like true pick your own battles all all
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the same but don't don't come at the man for cheating if she's gonna put it out there as if
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she's gonna cheat as well well interesting that you say that well i just think of it as like like
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mating strategies like women want to get attention from high status men that's instagram
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yeah it needs to be fair i want to screw as many people as possible so like how many i don't know
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anyone that got married and closed their instagram i don't know anyone that did it like my age
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anyway actually i told you're right so yeah so i'm saying modern women are shitty wives why would
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you close your instagram i don't i don't understand that because it's advertised you know
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pull up pull up pull this up i mean i i think it really depends you can't tell me that's not
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advertising i mean she is a model i mean yeah she's a model that's her job like yeah but i mean you could
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argue justin bieber's job is to screw groupies on tour what is different he's he's not a model
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right so i do get what you're saying he's a world famous pop star yeah but still he's a singer what do
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world famous pop stars do they screw groupies on the tour bro this is a tale as old as time that's fair
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it's part of the job yeah it is what does chris brown do on stage come on is that his job yeah
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and you know you can just tell she would have none of that if he was doing that yeah but it's like we
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we're in a society where men aren't told they can do that they're controlling if they tell a girl to
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close her instagram but women immediately want you to stop sleeping with other girls and you can tell
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like i know so many people in relationships who have told people unfollow her stop liking
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her photos i know get rid of her if you do it to a man or if you're in a relationship with another
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girl and you tell her not to do that you're the bad person well you got to be a bit careful you have
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it goes one or two like you have to look at it see i think that's a standard respect thing
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if you're going to do one way and not accept it backwards yeah but there's different hold on hold on
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i feel this might be controversial but i feel like there are different um there are different reasons and
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there's people with different circumstances for example if there was if you was dating someone
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and she was for example like a content creator or something and she had she was in you know instagram
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engagement groups so if she was an engagement group in an engagement group there are rules you have to
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like everyone's photo to help each other with the algorithm right so would you then turn around to
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your girlfriend and say to her i don't want you liking pictures of other girls the standard person
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isn't like i'm not i'm not famous on instagram i don't have to do any of that but i'm just saying
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but would a good wife argue with him when he asks that and say well but my instagram grouper would
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she just say okay whatever you say honey yeah in a really traditional setup that she she would give
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it up probably you know if he's making six figures well regardless of no regardless if he's making six
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figures she should be like listen you know we're married now that is the i've made this commitment in the
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in the eyes of the law exactly and in the eyes of god so that's more important to me than having
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an instagram account you know that's what she would have said in the back of the day okay so i have a
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question why does he have to be making six figures to have to be listened to and do you have the same
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energy if a woman's mid does she is she if she's average looking does she not is she not able to ask
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for loyalty that's a good question like you know she's average looking so why why does she get to ask for
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that yeah i don't know i don't i don't really know how to answer that because i just feel like
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women do definitely look at men's financial status and we can sit here and argue about that all the
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time but at the end of the day there is survival and women will always try to go with someone above
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her level or at least on her level she will never go low so you said six figures that's
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that's ten percent of men no i know i i was just trying to be funny there but like
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um no but i'm just saying like realistically she will always go above or on the same level so
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she's never going to go low so financial status does get looked at and that is actually how men
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earn respect from women i feel like it's one of the ways that if you want to earn respect from a
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woman you need to do that you need to be making bank yeah no bro keys i'm being real i'm being
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absolutely real you know i'm not gonna sugarcoat it you do need to be so how much does he have to
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make what about an average guy um i don't know i don't know what the average salary here is what is
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it like 40 30 depends on your age so like 25 year olds gonna be earning like 35 000. all right
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which in london isn't going to be very much in in the standards of earning six figures and then it's
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on it's unfair to expect that off someone you've got the average you've got the average uk wage though
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which is probably like it's going to be weighted higher in london yeah well yeah because you've got
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extremities you've got you know if you're looking at the mean it's going to be taking both the i mean does
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the man expect us to be top 10 20 30 percent of beauty no but why should they not if we're expecting
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them to be in the higher range i think they do want that yeah they might want it but they're not
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they're not going to hold out for it because most guys are quite thirsty do you know what i mean we
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were talking about this the other the other night most guys are quite thirsty they're going to take
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they're going to take what they could get you know oh oh i mean that's a good point it's a good
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point have you heard the husband store analogy no oh there's like i hope i say this right there's
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like a husband store analogy in the manosphere okay and basically every st every store or every floor
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is a different set of husbands okay and you go up a floor um then the only rule is you can't go back
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down so there's five floors total and you you can go up but you can't go down so the first floor
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is guys that love kids and are and are loyal to you oh sweet and so the women go to the first floor
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so they go to the first floor and they say you know what i want more i want to i want to go up so
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they go to the second floor and then they find a shitty one no no no it gets better it gets better so
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these guys love kids they're loyal and they're hot oh they're sexy yeah so but they're like well
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what's on the next floor okay then they're just curious yeah yeah so they go they what's what's
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what's next curiosity and they say they say they say okay the next floor these guys are hot
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they make 70 000 a year they love kids and they're loyal but she's on the third floor and she's like well
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what's what's up what's on the next floor and so then i get it then she goes next they make six
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figures love kids loyal everything but she wants to go to the fifth floor and on the fifth unfaithful
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all the husbands are sold out and there's dogs because die alone i mean so so so that that to
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make it fair they did a wife score or a wife store right so on the first floor there's women
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good sex loyal sixes and they never found out what was on the second floor
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i think modern day woman no offense and i know i'm a woman but are super like materialistic i don't
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agree i really i i i love i love most of my friends but i know if they were given the opportunity to go
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with someone who aren't like over a million they will take it they take it and they cheat on the
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person that they love and they feel committed to and they want and that's such an issue well they
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cheat for money so i mean they would yeah yeah yeah yeah and i think that a lot of people
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but it's been normalized it's seen as normal now to cheat and it's seen as normal to like be like oh yeah but
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he's better and they won't why why not just fight three guys she found it better because
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he have money exactly why is why is that important i don't know exactly and that's why guys shouldn't
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get married because that's the that's the dynamic that's the dynamic but you're as a guy you're entering
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into a contract with somebody when that is the dynamic that's going on in society and that's and
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that's very problematic because you're you're basically marrying into it's like it's like buying a house
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that it's got loads of faults with the house and you're going to have loads of money to pay further
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down the line it's like you're buying it you're getting into a contract with somebody who is being
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influenced by the society that's basically saying to you there's always going to be better there's
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always your and and not only is that always going to be better but you deserve better you know you
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go girl you go on to the next dude you just want more and more it's nearly like a mobile phone
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and it's like my my why is that worth it my grandma had 13 kids for a fireman and she submitted to him
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and that's and that's the thing like modern that's a good job but that's that's no but that's beautiful
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that is what it should be it was an average salary back then and so i'm i'm just saying like you know
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i think it's this generation this generation is just getting worse but but money shouldn't be the end
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all and be all of it and and it is what it is now if you feel that emotionally attached someone like
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for someone like me that doesn't want to particularly get married if you feel that emotionally attached
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that you're willing to get married you should not just up and leave because someone else has more
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money or someone else maybe is is more attractive like it should be all taken as i've committed to
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this person for a reason there was something there unless there's something a lot deeper going on
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like abuse or or something that it's a lot deeper and it's a lot more complex if it's something as
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simple as that person earns more i'm gonna go with them that's really sad so do you think that the
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woman so would you say you think that the woman should stick it out basically even if there is like
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a period of suffering not necessarily stick out but don't say this man that she's with is like
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literally not hardly making any money they are really struggling like times are really tough
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for her and do you think that she should just stay and stick it out or do you think she should
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want better for herself can i can i can i just read something really quick go for it all right um
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i take you for my lawfully wedded husband to have
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for better for worse for richer or for poorer and sickness and health till death do us part if you
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believe in leaving the second there's a rough patch why get married it's like i couldn't agree
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at that point oh that bible that's all boomer stuff that bible
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but the whole point is like if if you believe in divorce then why get married there's no point
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yeah just be in a relationship because you're not a wife i mean you're you're getting married and then
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you think oh i'm gonna divorce one day that's why they're on some prenups though because it's like
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well i don't think anyone wants to get divorced when they get married they think it's forever but
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i think things happen yeah and you have to be realistic that but that's i'm not saying that
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maybe you marry someone and in the beginning it's all good and then suddenly when you get married he
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might lose his money and then leave him no i don't agree with that but i feel like yeah i feel like you
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should still stay with that person but if there's no progress there's no sign of him you know working hard or
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trying or trying to get back to that level that he was at before things i'm getting worse you know
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it's time to call it this is what this is that's one more time one more time oh for better or for
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worse for richer for poorer yeah in sickness and in health until death do us anyways that's it
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this is what rollo tomassi the the author of the rational mail who talks a lot about this kind of these
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kind of intergender dynamics he talks about the burden of performance on men and that's exactly what
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you're talking about then there's always this there's this burden of performance on men it's
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like okay well he could have a rough patch but if he doesn't shape up after two years you know she's
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going to be like thinking well hang on what's going on which is i understand why you would say that but
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that is contrary to what pearl read out because the agreement is for better or worse for sick sicker
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and poorer because it could be he's got some underlying issue like he's got maybe some underlying
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like like depression or something like that he's trying to deal with some trauma and he's not working
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he's not pushing himself to the degree because of that but you know the the woman who disregards
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that could just say well sod it you know i'm going to go for steve over here because he's making six
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figures so i have a question so the same way you believe that um if he's not making more money or
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working or whatever you should leave should he leave her if she gets fat wow i mean
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same energy if that's the standard he went for yeah yeah why not it just depends if you're if
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you're gonna flip it i'm looking i'm just asking yes um i think he's he's allowed to to bring it up
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yeah for sure no no out out oh we're gonna give her some chance you know to get in the gym she got
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like three months six months no well no because she's not gonna leave him like if the woman is
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like in that situation she's not we're not saying the woman's just gonna go right oh you're not
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working for three months off i go like it's not gonna happen like that she's obviously gonna stick
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it out she's gonna try and help especially if you've got kids it's different like she may not be
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able to go back to work they may have to find alternative ways of surviving i don't know it's
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very difficult but she's not going to leave straight away it's it's you know over a few years
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three four years maybe i don't know um and in the same yeah same energy for for the man as well if the
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woman's completely let herself go and you know she's not taking care of herself forget the man it's not
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even good for you as a woman forget him like it's about you like you want to be able to look yourself
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in the mirror and feel confident and happy and you know comfortable in your skin so go out and do
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something about it so i yeah but he have to make sure you you get like some compliments about it you
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know so he can make you feel better but are you going to give him the same compliments if he has no
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job oh yeah yeah you know what i mean but i think it works i have a question do you genuinely do you
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genuinely think most women nicely ask or do you think most women nag let's just
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yeah yeah okay yes baby i'm so happy you didn't do that thing i asked you to do last week
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yeah very happy i mean the woman condition yeah should be away but the female condition is very different
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to a man as well like we we do like to no offense but picket things yeah whereas a man will be very
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much more upfront about it and if they have an issue with something they would do most of the time
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most of the time not all men i i know not all men are quite as straightforward as that but
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most men will just say it as it is whereas women will sugarcoat things i'm not gonna i'm kind of
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i'm gonna be straightforward me it makes it more complicated so if you can't take it don't give it
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