Should Modern Women Be JAILED For This？？
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the recent case of a woman who lied to her boyfriend about being on birth control and got pregnant off of it. We talk about the consequences of lying about birth control, what the consequences should be, and what should be done about it.
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have any of you ever told a guy you were on birth control when you weren't
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do you know what i mean no yeah everyone like i think that you have to be transparent about that
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have you ever heard of anyone doing that yeah yeah yeah first hand yeah yeah yeah tell me what
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what did she do um yeah she she told him that she was on and she wasn't and she got what she wanted
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she got pregnant off of it yeah do you do you think that in that situation since she lied that he
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shouldn't have any rights to the or that he should be able to get rid of his rights to the kid i mean
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no because she lied so he was he was performing off of something that you know off of the security
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that she was on it and she wasn't so that kind of no but i mean so when when he has the kid
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or when she had i'm assuming she had the kid right so did um do you think that in that case that he
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should be able to sign off all rights because he didn't want the kid to begin with i mean when you
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say it like that because it's it's it's in a way where it wasn't his choice because had he known he
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wouldn't have made that choice um so when you say it like that absolutely i mean rightfully the kid's
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there at the end of the day so i mean whether he wants it or not unfortunately that's his seed that's
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his future um but yeah it is in his hands to make that decision um but then it comes into do you want
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to be a father what type of father do you want to be to that kid that you weren't ready for but now
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you are a father now so yeah what do you who who who do you know that lied uh i i know someone that
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got into a bad situation because they um well they didn't like their own birth control but they lied
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that they were bulimic um so they didn't disclose their bulimia so they're making themselves sick while
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taking birth control um which obviously makes it ineffective um and she she did get pregnant
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energy keep it yeah yeah they worked things out and like they're a happy couple now but um it was a
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big i live with them it was a big point of contention at the time do you do you guys think that should be
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punishable as a crime i think lying to a guy about birth control definitely yeah a hundred percent yeah
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you take accountability that's so sorry i feel quite passionate yeah it's so unfair on the man
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if if you lie about it like obviously if an accident happens as an accident right it's
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both both parties fault but yeah if you lie about it then yeah a hundred percent if it was like
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premeditated yeah exactly it's like coercion in a way it's similar to like essay of a woman if you
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lie about having an scd it's i would say that's like a similar thing but i don't think that means you
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should sign away all rights to the baby it's not it's not the baby's fault you know what i mean yeah but
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you don't think if the woman has the right to get an abortion he should have the right to sign off
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his rights no because like you don't think if the woman has a right not to be a mother he should have
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the right not to be a father especially if he was coerced into doing it no because like if a woman
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an abortion is different sorry like so if um if a woman's great i have to say great do you do you
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think she should be able to get an abortion yeah but i think abortion is different to when the baby
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is at the point of a baby in your arms i think that that is your life responsibility and when you
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have sex in general you take the risk whether someone's lied to you about the risk or not isn't
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that that's a terrible thing to happen but you still take the risk of that one percent of um oh this
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woman could get pregnant even if you think she is on but what if the woman wants to give up the
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kid for adoption should she have that right uh not if the father wants to keep it no yeah if the
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father wants the baby the father should be able to have full custody and the woman should pay chance
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for no but i'm saying i'm saying if she wants to give up the kid for adoption she should be able to
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right yes but not if the father wants yeah but so i'm saying if he didn't sign up to be a father
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like why should he be forced to because isn't it like rewarding bad behavior no i think that when
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every single time you have every time i have sex with my boyfriend there is a small percent chance
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that i could get pregnant and we both have sex knowing that that can happen when you do it with
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a stranger you know that that's a yeah but the women but the women are the we're the only ones
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that can have all the information up front that's because so yeah but that's that's my point my point
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is like there's no male birth control so women we we can when we have sex like we have all the
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information we know if we're ovulating we know if we're going to take a plan b we know if we're on
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birth control where the men it's like they they have the they have the option condom or no condom
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but even with like plan b that's not that effective because if you are plan b only works
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to delay ovulation so if you're ovulating at the time that you have sex yeah but it does nothing
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yeah but there's 41 forms of birth control for you and you only can get pregnant like three days a month
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there's still people do all the time that's why 16 year olds are pregnant you know it's never
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deliberate is it sometimes but i would beg to differ on that but i'm saying in this case it was
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deliberate yeah so it's just interesting because i i feel like if he's not able to sign off his rights
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when she does something wrong like why wouldn't she just keep doing it why wouldn't women just
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keep doing it i just i don't think that that's a real problem i don't think women are actually doing
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that oh my gosh you you haven't seen the nba the nba issued statements telling the men to wear
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condoms because all these models were lying to the men about being on birth it's a real issue
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i mean you think drake wanted to get pregnant a corn star pregnant that's like a very specific issue
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based on very very wealthy men like when you have a lot of wealth and you have a lot of like fame you
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are obviously at more risk of people taking you to court of people abusing you in every single way
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so like that's a very specific thing to nba stars that like your average joe but a lot of men that aren't
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nba stars and i think there's a lot of men that are in i'd say comfortable positions that women would
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want to be in that situation with them and see an opportunity i think you know there's a lot of
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women out there that sometimes even just get to a state where they become selfish because they might
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receive news that they might not be able to ovulate as much in the next two years or whatever the
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situation may be i think on both behalves it is kind of selfish in a sense where i think it's wrong when
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a woman does that anyway because that's unfair on the child forget about even the man's rights the
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rights as a child to be able to be accessible and my parents to both be accessible i think is so
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important so me taking away the opportunity of my child having their father in their life before
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they're even here is selfish so before we even get to a point of the man's rights what about that that
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that child's right it's 100 you know you said you're you said you're passionate about it why
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yeah i just i just don't know do you know someone that's happened to um heard stories
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yeah i think it's happened to a couple of the boys actually um but yeah it's just something that is
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just so unfair and i just feel that um yeah men just literally have no right at all they have no say
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and if it is something that's deliberate for me i just don't think a baby deserves to be brought up in
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that type of world um especially if the father's not ready and it's coming from a lie so i think the
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baby so i think the dad should have a decision on you know what happens to unfortunately the baby
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especially if you're both young but the dad has had a decision to put a condom on in the first place
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right he made that she could pull calls on that's what i mean i mean that's gonna be pretty obvious
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she's gonna lie if she's gonna lie about being on birth control then you know that does happen people do
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put pins through i know it's a rarity but they steal condoms and like you know in that case though
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even if like a man is coerced into um having that child i still think he's taken the risks anyway even
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if he thought it was a much slimmer chance than it was um and that woman should be treated as if she'd
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street but then don't you think in the case of abortion like that she took that risk like i'm just
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it's just interesting because this sounds like equality when it benefits us it's not real equality
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because it's like okay what do you mean by like when abortions involved so a woman has the right
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not to be a mother so if i if i have an accidental pregnancy i can terminate it up to six months in
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the uk but men don't have the right not to be fathers true so it's like why why do we call the
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man a deadbeat dad but we don't call the woman a deadbeat mom when she gets an abortion and so i'm
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saying if we really want equality like why wouldn't we make it equal where the men can sign off
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but i think that's like how again we'd want an ideal world to be do you know what i mean in a
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sense where i would but she's saying no fair enough that's just society like that's the way society is
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and unfortunately that's uh how can i put it like unfortunate on the men's behalf in the world
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because that's something that they're out of control of there's a lot of things i'd say like
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in a relationship or in other situations us women are out of control as many of you know i was just
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