JustPearlyThings - May 17, 2023


Simp claims That Men Love Fat Models


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In this episode we talk about obesity in the modelling industry and why we don t want to see more slim girls on the cover of magazines. We also talk about the fact that the average weight of a woman in the modeling industry is now higher than the average women in the UK.

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00:00:00.000 Don't you think there's a certain level, though?
00:00:01.520 Obviously, there's obesity and there's, because I feel like the modeling world has always promoted
00:00:07.260 unhealthiness, if that makes sense.
00:00:09.460 Even the slim women, slim women with like six and like very small, do you get what I'm
00:00:13.920 saying?
00:00:14.260 That would, it looked like they weren't eating at a certain time.
00:00:15.980 I don't think so.
00:00:16.000 If you look at, I always hear that, but like I look at Marilyn Monroe, she was healthy.
00:00:20.060 Yeah, but they were talking about one person, though.
00:00:21.400 There's a lot of, a lot of women in the modeling world was very slim and they wouldn't eat 1.00
00:00:25.740 or they wouldn't do something just to fit in a certain category, do you get what I'm
00:00:28.400 saying?
00:00:28.500 I mean, there was some, but I just, maybe for like an early 2000s, but I think if you
00:00:33.240 look at the last like 100 years, I think most women on the covers were just objectively beautiful. 1.00
00:00:38.780 What's the average weight you would say?
00:00:41.160 Let's see.
00:00:42.220 I don't know off the top of my head.
00:00:43.640 I mean, as a Ford model, the girls who were in straight size modeling, they were size four 1.00
00:00:47.880 and that's because the samples are made in a size four.
00:00:51.680 Is your four different from UK four?
00:00:53.800 Oh yeah, it is a bit.
00:00:55.400 Yeah, like more like a two.
00:00:56.880 I think it'd be more like a two.
00:00:57.940 Two hair.
00:00:59.000 The average, the average woman.
00:01:00.340 Mama, she's gone.
00:01:01.680 She's 50.
00:01:02.120 Okay.
00:01:02.560 The average woman is five four. 0.83
00:01:04.660 I'm in America and I can do UK in a second.
00:01:06.840 Yeah.
00:01:07.060 Five four, 20 years old and weighs 170 pounds.
00:01:10.880 What's that in stone, please?
00:01:12.680 Okay.
00:01:13.680 Okay.
00:01:13.740 Average stones.
00:01:18.200 Average stones.
00:01:19.240 I don't actually know.
00:01:24.460 But that's overweight.
00:01:26.640 I would say that that average that she just quoted would be overweight.
00:01:28.800 12 stone.
00:01:29.700 12 stone.
00:01:29.980 12, 12.14 stone.
00:01:31.440 Okay.
00:01:31.900 Because I would think that average is between eight to 12.
00:01:34.640 I think if you're in a good in shape 12, there's good in shape 12 women. 1.00
00:01:39.700 Anything above that, then we're talking obesity.
00:01:42.200 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:01:42.580 I mean, I think it's BMI.
00:01:45.980 To be honest, sorry.
00:01:47.000 To be honest, it depends.
00:01:48.360 I think like around 10 years ago, it used to be way different.
00:01:54.520 I think now they kind of raised it.
00:01:56.700 A little bit.
00:01:57.200 Yeah.
00:01:57.560 Yeah.
00:01:58.140 10 years ago, I went, I don't know.
00:02:00.700 I was like 65 kilos.
00:02:02.140 I don't know what that is.
00:02:03.040 Sorry.
00:02:03.540 In stones.
00:02:05.360 It must be like 165 in America.
00:02:08.700 2.2 to 1.
00:02:10.480 Yeah.
00:02:11.020 And they would already say, oh, you should try to lose weight, you know, for your height,
00:02:15.220 whatever.
00:02:16.000 Now, if you look at that, they're like, yeah, you're perfect.
00:02:18.740 You can be a model.
00:02:19.880 Yeah.
00:02:20.040 So it really changed in the last decade, I would say.
00:02:23.700 Really, it did.
00:02:24.480 So it was about around 10 years ago, was there plus size models?
00:02:27.760 Is that a new thing?
00:02:28.780 I'll be honest.
00:02:29.500 Not really.
00:02:30.420 There definitely were on America's Next Top Model.
00:02:32.640 I mean, it wasn't that as common though, but I definitely, I used to watch Tyra Banks, anyone?
00:02:38.180 Yeah.
00:02:38.420 Anyone?
00:02:39.440 There was some.
00:02:40.500 But they weren't like, they weren't like the super, yeah, like you see today, they're just
00:02:46.320 kind of like, they're like 10s, you know?
00:02:48.260 Big boned.
00:02:49.680 10s, all right?
00:02:51.540 10s not big.
00:02:52.720 No, 10s not big at all.
00:02:54.320 12s.
00:02:55.000 For the modeling industry.
00:02:56.060 Like this one, I'm saying for the modeling world, that's quite big, yeah?
00:02:58.280 But again, it's like when you go to an NBA game, I want to see good basketball players.
00:03:02.640 Like it's supposed to be the epitome of beauty.
00:03:05.040 But now we're rewarding average.
00:03:06.960 Like I don't want to see average chicks, like faces on the cover of magazines. 1.00
00:03:10.640 Why don't I want to see average bodies?
00:03:12.720 I hear that.
00:03:13.000 But if she's a good, I'm not saying plus plus, but she's a good size 12 with good curves in 1.00
00:03:17.860 that.
00:03:18.340 Men don't want to see that. 0.99
00:03:19.100 We don't really want to just see slim girls all the time. 1.00
00:03:21.580 I'll be honest.
00:03:21.920 I believe that.
00:03:22.560 I believe that some men like that.
00:03:24.420 I really do.
00:03:24.940 Yeah, but it's typically, to be honest, it's typically broke men.
00:03:28.040 Because if you look at rich men, yeah, yeah.
00:03:30.140 If you look at, like, it's so cap.
00:03:31.800 Like, I'm just, I don't like liars.
00:03:33.640 No offense.
00:03:34.300 But it's like, it's like, like when you see rich men, what do they have on their arms?
00:03:37.900 Slim women. 0.99
00:03:38.640 But the only reason why they have slim women is because the slim women are in the higher 1.00
00:03:43.760 echelons of places where the other women, no, not in beauty. 1.00
00:03:47.520 No, let's not talk about beauty only.
00:03:48.900 I'm talking about venues, certain venues, certain places that they get to go to.
00:03:53.540 Certain women can't get to go there. 1.00
00:03:55.180 You get what I'm saying?
00:03:55.960 You're telling me, Leonardo DiCaprio, if he wanted a big chick, he couldn't find one.
00:04:00.200 No, he can find one.
00:04:01.140 But I'm saying in certain, the venue, the events, the events he goes to, though.
00:04:05.560 No, half these guys get their chicks from Instagram.
00:04:07.280 Come on.
00:04:09.000 They can get any chick they want. 0.99
00:04:10.980 Yeah, they can.
00:04:12.060 But do you think Leonardo's just getting in bare girls DMs, just hollering girls in their
00:04:15.960 DMs?
00:04:16.360 No.
00:04:16.620 I think if he wants, I think he'll pick, like, he hollered at that one chick, the Hadid.
00:04:23.280 Who's that?
00:04:23.800 Oh.
00:04:25.060 Gigi.
00:04:25.620 Hadid?
00:04:26.000 Gigi.
00:04:26.200 Oh, Gigi.
00:04:27.380 The model, yeah.
00:04:28.060 Gigi.
00:04:28.560 I don't know how to say it.
00:04:29.940 It's like, if you look at the richest, most successful men, they typically have slim women. 0.92
00:04:33.780 I'm saying, if you're looking at the richest parts of events and venues, Mayfair, whatever,
00:04:38.940 in America, Manhattan, whatever.
00:04:41.000 If you go to the upper echelons of places, they've got to be, you know what I'm saying?
00:04:44.840 Do you really think that the only reason they're with slim, beautiful women is because
00:04:49.760 of the events they go to?
00:04:50.860 No, but I'm saying because of the environment that they're in, they're going to be-
00:04:54.860 I think that was because that is society's ideal of a beautiful woman.
00:04:58.420 That's why.
00:04:59.220 And so, I feel like the plus model came in when people started complaining that there
00:05:03.060 wasn't a selection of variety of different sizes.
00:05:04.760 Okay, but then why is it that all around the world, they, like, young, beautiful, slim
00:05:10.020 women everywhere, even in different societies with completely different cultures, please, 1.00
00:05:15.480 please do not bring up this one fringent tribe in Africa.
00:05:19.200 Everyone brings up, but it's like, it's such a small percentage of the world.
00:05:23.540 What, Africa? 0.94
00:05:24.540 There's something-
00:05:25.260 No, Africa's the biggest country in the world.
00:05:26.940 No, the tribe.
00:05:26.960 They bring up some tribe in Africa that likes the fat women, but it's a very, very- 1.00
00:05:31.720 I've done this conversation.
00:05:32.700 Well, if you think-
00:05:33.460 I hear that, but if you think about it, it's the motherland.
00:05:37.240 Please don't go do disingenuous.
00:05:38.900 No, I'm not being-
00:05:39.820 But, I'm-
00:05:40.640 Okay, because you know, you know, deep down, you know that men like slim women, in general. 1.00
00:05:45.600 I'm going to be honest.
00:05:46.400 I don't think they do.
00:05:47.200 I'm going to be honest.
00:05:47.980 I don't think they do.
00:05:48.140 I don't think they do.
00:05:49.200 And I'm going to say this, coming from being a black man.
00:05:53.060 Okay.
00:05:53.680 If I'm talking about being a black man, and from a black perspective of, I feel like majority
00:05:58.780 of us men like thicker women. 0.98
00:06:00.800 Okay.
00:06:01.200 Well, and even-
00:06:02.200 Michael B. Jordan, they have big chicks on their arms.
00:06:04.060 But you keep talking about celebrity men that are going to be around higher women that-
00:06:09.280 I'm from a 1% family.
00:06:11.880 My dad is a top 1% earner.
00:06:14.180 I grew up around in a wealthy neighborhood.
00:06:15.800 I'm telling you, they do not put fat chicks on their arms. 1.00
00:06:18.180 I hear that.
00:06:18.680 In high-class society and celebrities want people with the option to not have a fat chick on 1.00
00:06:24.480 their arm, do not.
00:06:25.560 All right.
00:06:25.880 But even like, I was having a conversation the other day with a woman, and she was a slim 1.00
00:06:30.380 woman.
00:06:30.900 She's from America as well.
00:06:32.020 She's American, I think Atlanta or whatever.
00:06:34.740 And she said, when she was slim, she was only getting approached by white men.
00:06:38.880 Okay.
00:06:39.380 She put on a lot of weight.
00:06:40.860 No, not a lot of weight, but she's tipped, got body, whatever, blah, blah, blah. 1.00
00:06:43.820 Now she's getting approached by a lot of black men, which is what, do you get what I'm saying?
00:06:48.120 But I'm saying, if you look at it on the Democrats thing-
00:06:51.680 Which successful black men that we know are dating fat chicks? 1.00
00:06:55.220 Yeah, but are we only going to talk about successful men?
00:06:56.800 Yeah, because those are the men with options.
00:06:58.360 Broke men don't have as many options as rich men. 1.00
00:06:59.980 Broke men definitely have options. 1.00
00:07:00.880 They do not have as many options as rich men, so if you look at the men with the most options-
00:07:05.100 Okay, so if we want to see what women want, we've got to look at the women with the most 1.00
00:07:08.040 options.
00:07:08.500 Who do the most beautiful, the youngest, most fertile women pick? 1.00
00:07:12.220 If you want to look at men, what do men like?
00:07:14.020 We have to look at the men with the most options, because it's not really fair to say,
00:07:17.060 oh, I like fat chicks if I make, you know, $10 an hour at Taco Bell, right? 1.00
00:07:21.320 Like, you can't-
00:07:22.300 You don't get-
00:07:22.840 No, I hear that.
00:07:23.520 I hear that.
00:07:25.260 No, I get that.
00:07:26.380 But obviously, if you're talking about celebrities, celebrities are guided-
00:07:30.200 No, I didn't, but I didn't just say celebrities.
00:07:32.000 I also said I'm from, my dad is in, like, he's a top 1% earner.
00:07:37.040 I grew up with 10 siblings in a 10-bedroom mansion in a community where many people made
00:07:41.520 that amount of money.
00:07:42.760 Yeah.
00:07:43.040 So I've been around a successful, wealthy man, and they don't put fat chicks. 0.98
00:07:47.420 Sometimes they do get fat later, but they don't appreciate that, you know what I mean?
00:07:51.540 So, yeah, but I hear what you're saying, but I'm saying, these men, obviously, are going
00:07:56.340 to go for similar, because they're around, that's what, you being in the top 1% and being
00:08:00.620 in this neighborhood, it allows you to see different things, you get me?
00:08:04.420 Like, if you do have money, obviously, if you do have money, a lot of people with money
00:08:08.700 are in the gym, they do it because they have more time on their hands to do other things,
00:08:13.220 you get what I'm saying?
00:08:13.680 No, they have less time, I guarantee.
00:08:16.020 You think they have less time?
00:08:17.100 Rich people absolutely have less time.
00:08:19.120 Totally.
00:08:19.620 No, I don't know about that, you know?
00:08:20.800 No, I could tell you 100%.
00:08:22.920 But also, I think the reason that a lot of women are slimmer, and why do you think more 1.00
00:08:27.520 successful men want women who are slimmer, is because it's healthier for them. 1.00
00:08:31.840 Like, their risk for getting, you know, diseases at an older age, their risk for having pregnancy
00:08:37.340 risks are much lower if they're not overweight.
00:08:40.080 Yeah, of course.
00:08:40.360 So, why would a man choose a woman, if he wants to marry them, if they're going to die 1.00
00:08:45.460 at 50, if they're going to die at 70, if they're going to have, their children's going
00:08:48.380 to have, be at risk for birth risk.
00:08:49.780 I mean, I would never want that.
00:08:51.940 And I don't think, I don't think men want that.
00:08:53.360 Like, when men are looking for wives, they're not looking for children, like, women who are 1.00
00:08:58.140 going to have risks.
00:08:59.620 And we even saw how, for you, how your bad habit passed on to her.
00:09:03.840 And that's like, if you have a bad habit yourself, you will pass it on to your kids, and then
00:09:07.840 it's another problem that your kid, like, because I had the same, my mom used to
00:09:10.300 feed me, like, Pop-Tarts and stuff when I was a kid.
00:09:12.520 And I, and my mom was pretty big, and then she ended up, like, losing all the weight.
00:09:16.600 And she told me, like, she literally did it for my dad.
00:09:20.080 And, yeah, I have a sugar addiction to this day.
00:09:23.440 You know what I mean?
00:09:24.060 So, it's like, bad habits pass from, like, the parents to the kids.
00:09:26.900 Exactly.
00:09:27.300 And sugar is more addictive than cocaine.
00:09:29.320 Yeah.
00:09:29.540 It's crazy.
00:09:30.260 Yeah, I do miss Pop-Tarts.
00:09:32.900 They make healthy Pop-Tarts, but they're really not healthy.
00:09:35.120 They're still junk food.
00:09:35.940 As many of you know, I was just banned on TikTok, and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this
00:09:43.680 platform.
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