JustPearlyThings - April 02, 2023


Society NEEDS To STOP THIS

Topics
domestic violence stats
Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Mentioned
Ronda Rousey Dwayne The Rock Johnson Blessing
She Claims that Men Don’t like submissive She Tried To DEFEND Sex Workers And THIS HAPPENED

Episode Stats


Length

12 minutes

Words per minute

171.4

Word count

2,169

Sentence count

282

Harmful content

Misogyny

12

sentences flagged

Toxicity

11

sentences flagged

Hate speech

6

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss the difference between misogyny and misandry, and how to deal with it. We also talk about a recent incident involving a man and a woman, and the reaction of the public to it.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 We're gonna get your guys' views on it.
00:00:02.060 Like we said, it's misogyny versus misandry,
00:00:06.540 and we'll get you guys' views on it after you see it.
00:00:10.760 Bless him when you're ready.
00:00:26.240 Oh, we can't hear.
00:00:30.000 Come on here.
00:00:36.000 One sec.
00:00:37.000 No problem.
00:00:41.000 Oh, I used to work in this place.
00:00:44.000 Where?
00:00:45.000 This square.
00:00:46.000 It's next to a firm I used to work at.
00:00:48.000 What area is it in?
00:00:49.000 It's next to Warren Street Station.
00:00:55.000 Okay.
00:00:57.000 Central.
00:00:58.000 Yeah.
00:00:59.000 Central, yeah.
00:01:00.000 Yeah.
00:01:01.000 We're gonna see.
00:01:02.000 We're gonna see what happened there, Warren Street Station.
00:01:05.000 See what you guys think.
00:01:08.000 When Blessing's ready.
00:01:11.000 He's working fast and furious over here, guys.
00:01:13.000 So don't worry about it.
00:01:14.000 Alright?
00:01:15.000 He's working fast and furious.
00:01:16.000 Blessing is good.
00:01:17.000 We're good.
00:01:18.000 We're good.
00:01:19.000 As a matter of fact, before a blessing gets done, let's just say.
00:01:21.000 Does anybody know what misandry is?
00:01:24.000 It's the hatred of men, yeah?
00:01:26.000 Well, the actual definition that I have here of misandry is, I'll tell you what misandry is.
00:01:35.000 Misandry is a dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men.
00:01:43.000 But ingrained is a very interesting.
00:01:44.000 Yeah.
00:01:45.000 That's like kind of built in them.
00:01:46.000 Yeah.
00:01:47.000 Built in you.
00:01:48.000 Well, it's kind of, I think it's kind of built in society.
00:01:49.000 Yeah.
00:01:50.000 Yeah.
00:01:51.000 I was gonna say that.
00:01:52.000 I think it's built into feminism. 1.00
00:01:53.000 Like the whole, the idea of the patriarchy is innately misandrist.
00:01:54.000 Yeah.
00:01:55.000 You ever think about like, there's certain terms we use in society that are very much like,
00:02:00.000 take accountability away from the woman. 1.00
00:02:01.000 Like we say, knocked up, even though it takes two to tango, but it sounds like he knocked
00:02:06.000 her up.
00:02:07.000 Yeah.
00:02:08.000 But on the flip side of that, you read.
00:02:10.000 Yeah.
00:02:11.000 Yeah.
00:02:12.000 Yeah.
00:02:13.000 Yeah.
00:02:14.000 Yeah.
00:02:15.000 Yeah.
00:02:16.000 Yeah.
00:02:17.000 Yeah.
00:02:18.000 Yeah.
00:02:19.000 Yeah.
00:02:20.000 Yeah.
00:02:21.000 Yeah.
00:02:22.000 Yeah.
00:02:23.000 Yeah.
00:02:24.000 Yeah.
00:02:25.000 On the flip side of that.
00:02:26.000 You read.
00:02:27.000 Headlines where.
00:02:28.000 I think we've got.
00:02:29.000 We can here, okay.
00:02:30.000 Are we good?
00:02:31.000 We got like, we're gonna continue guys.
00:02:32.000 We're gonna watch a video.
00:02:33.000 I'm gonna get you guys is using opinions on this. 0.99
00:02:38.000 What's to fucking cut come get your hand off me come here. What were you? I'm not talking 0.98
00:02:55.140 today. I'm not talking to this. Get your hand off me. Who was that? Tell me who is that? 0.66
00:03:00.720 People are looking at me. People are looking at me. People are looking at me. Get your hand off me.
00:03:07.480 What are you doing? What are you doing? We're fine. Grant, thanks. Someone will call the police if you carry on doing that to someone.
00:03:15.480 If I don't, someone else will. Okay. Okay. It's definitely fine. You don't have to put up with that.
00:03:20.440 Okay. Thank you. My office is there. You're definitely quiet. Yeah. Yeah, I am. I'm Grant. Thanks.
00:03:30.720 What do I do? What? Do you ever listen to me? You're crazy, man. I'm fucking manic. I've been talking at you for the last ten minutes and you haven't listened. You haven't gotten into fucking what I've been saying to you. But you're fucking not even listening to me. That's what. Why do I push you like that? Because you won't fucking respond to me. You won't listen to me. You think you're fucking all manly.
00:03:52.440 I wasn't. No, you can't be. No, you can't be. Don't try and fucking walk away. Stop. Listen to me when I'm talking. Don't try and fucking walk away from me. Stop it. 1.00
00:04:03.680 What the fucking bullshit? What the fucking bullshit? What the fucking bullshit? What the fuck's wrong with you? Don't give me that shit. Okay? Pathetic. You're so fucking pathetic. 1.00
00:04:20.060 Intense. 1.00
00:04:22.440 Intense. My blood is hot.
00:04:26.060 Right. As you saw, there were two scenarios there. One with a man, one with a woman. What was the difference? And why was there a difference, do you think? With the way the public reacted?
00:04:38.800 I think it's actually quite sad. The difference is no one came to the man's aid. There was a part where a lady had, well, majority of the women.
00:04:53.100 In that scene were laughing. Also alongside with the men as well. I kind of think it's quite shameful to see that it's not taken seriously. Although she was doing exactly the same thing in the reverse roles. No one came to his aid.
00:05:08.520 No one thought it was anything serious. It was, yeah, I guess it's a pure example of what goes on in every day.
00:05:21.500 Do you think it's okay to hear, do people generally think that society thinks it's okay for men to suffer from physical abuse from women?
00:05:28.800 Yeah. Yeah. I believe so. I feel like people feel like...
00:05:34.140 Talking to the mic.
00:05:35.420 Sorry. I feel like people feel like it's not as deep as if a woman was to hit a man. You know what I mean? Yeah.
00:05:46.360 I think you're going to have to run that part again. What do you mean?
00:05:51.620 What do I mean?
00:05:52.440 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:52.940 Yeah, do you think society thinks it's okay for men to go through physical abuse? Because we saw it there.
00:05:59.020 It's justified. I think the way it's seen is if a woman does it, it's not seen as heavier. 0.59
00:06:06.340 That deep, yeah.
00:06:06.900 Yeah. And it's put across like that because, you know, they are deemed as, you know, the...
00:06:11.440 The fairer sex.
00:06:12.200 And they always ask, what did he do to deserve it?
00:06:15.420 Yeah.
00:06:15.640 Right.
00:06:16.280 There's no questions asked on the other way around.
00:06:18.740 Yeah.
00:06:19.100 You deserve better than them, you know?
00:06:20.460 Yeah, like if a girl's going crazy, it's always like, what did he do?
00:06:24.360 What do girls always say? What did he do to make her go crazy? 0.96
00:06:28.280 Make you do it, yeah. 1.00
00:06:29.140 But now you're just crazy. 0.97
00:06:31.620 And one of the lines from there I think was quite interesting is that the guy came and said, oh, yeah, you deserve better than that. 0.99
00:06:36.560 You don't have to take that.
00:06:38.160 But no one said that to the man.
00:06:40.720 Do you know what I mean?
00:06:41.500 So it's like, what, does a man have to take it? 0.88
00:06:43.420 I think it's what's put out there.
00:06:45.120 A man has to take it.
00:06:46.460 I think it's seen as now if a woman does anything of that nature, we are automatically, by default, expected to accept that. 0.94
00:06:57.300 Because at the end of the day, we don't, you know, there's going to be tons of other people with a similar kind of trait.
00:07:04.160 And it's not going to get any better.
00:07:05.960 So we have to kind of be content with the kind of treatment we're receiving.
00:07:10.880 And there's hope for it to improve.
00:07:13.980 You understand?
00:07:14.940 And that just depends on the kind of guy you are.
00:07:18.920 Moral coding.
00:07:19.960 And I guess it's what was pushed out there for the man to be weakened.
00:07:24.340 Right.
00:07:25.080 To accept it.
00:07:27.320 I don't think it's weakened.
00:07:28.780 Yeah, I think it's, I think, I think it is for a man to be weakened because at the end of the day, I don't think anybody should be hitting anybody.
00:07:36.340 I think violence is violence.
00:07:38.920 At the end of the day, I've had this conversation with a few people, you know, say, oh, yeah, the girl's weaker.
00:07:43.880 She's not as built as you.
00:07:45.580 A man is built with muscle.
00:07:47.000 Then I say, okay, let's put a gun into the equation.
00:07:49.060 I know that's a bit extreme.
00:07:50.120 But if someone picks up a trigger, you know, a female picks up a gun, a guy picks up the gun, they both pull the trigger, it does the same thing, right? 0.73
00:07:57.820 Well, if you go up to Dwayne The Rock Johnson and you punch him, no one's going to be mad or no one's going to feel bad for you when you get punched back.
00:08:06.340 Right.
00:08:06.540 Yeah.
00:08:06.860 I don't think I'll be punching him, but yeah.
00:08:09.440 But that's what I'm saying.
00:08:10.440 Like girls, like if the argument is that the girls are weaker, like then you could say the thing, if a weaker man goes up to a stronger man and hits him, do we feel bad when he gets hit back?
00:08:19.640 No, but it's kind of weird because.
00:08:22.160 I guess it would be seen as bullying then in that aspect.
00:08:24.860 What do you mean?
00:08:26.940 Because someone your own size, if you're saying a weaker man.
00:08:29.560 Yeah, but I'm saying if the weaker man picks a fight with the bigger man and then the bigger man hits back, nobody feels bad for the weaker man because he picked the fight.
00:08:38.780 But for some reason with women, it's not the same. 0.99
00:08:40.860 Like if a woman picks a fight with a man and it's hitting a man, but if she gets hit back, people.
00:08:45.280 But in that scenario that we saw, if the man was to retaliate, if the man was to retaliate during that time.
00:08:53.920 It's a different ball game.
00:08:56.200 Yeah, but the chances are, if I was to punch you and you punch me back, you're going to hurt me a lot more.
00:09:02.280 I'm not justifying it, but that is truth. 0.99
00:09:05.200 You know, you are the strongest sex. 0.88
00:09:07.040 So I'm not saying that I don't go around punching men and I wouldn't. 0.88
00:09:11.720 But because as a woman, I know that if I did and he hit me, the transistor is going to hurt me.
00:09:17.360 Like the domestic violence statistics are...
00:09:21.280 I'm with you and I'm not with you.
00:09:23.060 You have a point, but you spoke on the narrative of you're weaker because you're a woman. 0.92
00:09:29.060 Yeah, but that is biological, is it not?
00:09:31.700 We could take the same example with Dwayne The Rock Johnson.
00:09:37.280 Like, he's huge, biologically, and so if a skinny man picks a fight with a big man and he punches back, nobody feels bad for the skinny guy.
00:09:44.740 Of course, but domestic violence over here, a woman's dying every three to four days. 1.00
00:09:51.500 Of course, everywhere.
00:09:52.840 Yeah, no, of course, but I'm talking about the UK, so I don't know what the opposing argument is.
00:09:57.040 So, well, most domestic violence is mutual, so both parties are hitting each other.
00:10:02.000 But one-sided abuse is actually more common for men to be hit one-sided than women to be hit one-sided.
00:10:09.460 I've actually got some statistics for domestic violence when it comes to women and men, against men specifically,
00:10:16.220 because I've gone to the National Center of Domestic Violence, right?
00:10:20.020 And it actually says this, male victims, a finding was mirrored in an annual crime survey for England and Wales,
00:10:26.760 which found a quarter of all domestic abuse crimes in 2018 to 2019 were committed against a male victim.
00:10:34.080 In the same year, 16 men died at the hands of their partner or ex-partner, compared with 80 women.
00:10:41.420 The crime survey stats also showed that 3.8% of men, which is equal to 786,000, were victims of domestic abuse in 2018-2019.
00:10:53.240 So, I'll be very interested in that video, except having a woman that was bigger than the man. 0.90
00:11:02.080 Right.
00:11:02.720 Do you think that was done typecast?
00:11:04.680 Like, do you think that was done deliberately just to...
00:11:06.700 Probably.
00:11:06.980 No, I think they just got who they could to play the roles.
00:11:10.420 But it would be interesting if you had a woman... 1.00
00:11:12.340 Say, say Ronda Rousey, right?
00:11:14.020 Ronda Rousey bullying a smaller dude.
00:11:16.860 You can't make the argument that if Ronda Rousey punished you, it wouldn't hurt.
00:11:20.260 No, of course you can't.
00:11:21.580 She's trained.
00:11:22.620 Yeah, how many women are built like that, though? 1.00
00:11:25.060 Yeah, well, you know, that's what I'm saying.
00:11:27.360 But it would be interesting to see how this logic turns up when you have a woman that's more physically imposing. 0.99
00:11:32.880 Because I guess the idea with that video is that the man is obviously going to be this...
00:11:36.980 the more physically dominant one.
00:11:38.940 Right.
00:11:39.200 So he can take more and whenever he wants to, he can finish the situation.
00:11:44.420 And so that's why it's more tolerated.
00:11:46.040 So would you say that is a misandrous type of view?
00:11:49.440 No, I think it's just based on reality.
00:11:51.900 Okay.
00:11:52.360 Like, the guy, like, if he wants to beat her up, he could.
00:11:56.000 Like, it's not like she's physically stronger than him.
00:11:59.700 It only changes if, when you have a woman, he's physically stronger than a man. 0.97
00:12:03.160 I would like to see whether society holds that up in the same lens.
00:12:06.200 Like, would that be bullying?
00:12:07.600 I don't know.
00:12:08.920 Could you say the woman should, like, sustain more, should be more patient because the guy is weaker than her?
00:12:14.440 And, you know, this, that.
00:12:15.280 Would they put the same responsibility on the woman to be the more mature, more patient kind of part? 0.94
00:12:20.300 You know, that would be very interesting to me.
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