JustPearlyThings - June 23, 2023


Tate Might Be On House Arrest For This Long

Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Mentioned
Andrew Tate Nazarene Myron
Divorced man DEBUNKS '＂NOT ALL WOMEN' Plus Sized Man Gets Offended After Learning This Fact

Episode Stats


Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

179.13

Word count

1,689

Sentence count

131

Harmful content

Misogyny

2

sentences flagged

Toxicity

5

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

In this week's episode, we discuss the case of Andrew Tate, a Romanian man who has been charged with rape and human trafficking. Do we think he is guilty or is innocent? Is this a case of corruption, or is it a matter of innocent until proven guilty?

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hosts, guests, and mentioned names generated with spaCy (en_core_web_sm), reconciled against Wikidata.
00:00:00.000 Andrew Tate this week was charged with grape and human trafficking.
00:00:04.680 So I want to start by saying, do you guys think he's guilty or innocent based on the information you know?
00:00:11.680 I don't think I've followed it closely enough to give an accurate answer to that.
00:00:17.760 But I feel like in some respects, if you know, this has been under investigation for quite a while.
00:00:23.140 He's been under house arrest and stuff like that.
00:00:25.060 I do feel like within that time, they probably haven't have had enough time to compile a lot of evidence on that to sort of prove him to be guilty.
00:00:34.940 Yeah, it's like it's it's suspicious it's taken this long.
00:00:38.020 Right. Right. Exactly. That's my take.
00:00:40.560 OK, what's your take?
00:00:42.220 Actually, I've been following the case a bit closely lately, but I am not in a position to tell whether he's guilty or not.
00:00:51.100 But just the the I mean, the charges are a bit non, non, non understandable to me because they said he has been charged for something related to TikTok accounts and making money out of TikToks.
00:01:08.380 So this is really, really funny for me.
00:01:12.160 So even what is the revenue that would be generated from a TikTok account compared to other businesses?
00:01:18.700 So this is a bit tricky.
00:01:20.260 Yeah, because initially everyone thought it was from the cam work.
00:01:23.140 Yeah. So everyone thought that was what they were accusing them of.
00:01:26.440 But now it's coming forward that everything they're accusing them of was in the last year or two.
00:01:31.500 Yeah. So and they're saying they're forcing women to to make TikToks and I know I know the payout on TikTok and so you don't make shit on TikTok. 0.98
00:01:41.040 Yeah, I mean, that's that's a bit tricky for me, for like a government to to to I mean, to charge someone with these kind of charges, basically. 0.94
00:01:54.480 OK, go ahead, Nazarene.
00:01:56.340 I think what the majority of the public are forgetting is it's innocent until proven guilty.
00:02:01.940 So for me, at this point, he is innocent because he hasn't been proven guilty until they have evidence which shows him doing it.
00:02:10.460 It's concrete evidence which shows that he definitely is doing human trafficking and rape.
00:02:15.620 That's when I'll change my mind and say, OK, yeah, he's guilty.
00:02:18.200 But for now, he's innocent because if we're going by the standard of the law, it's innocent until proven guilty.
00:02:24.000 And I think everyone has to remember that. Otherwise, it gets very dangerous and it's definitely a breach of human rights.
00:02:30.920 And it's a it's a danger to free speech as well, I think, because if you can just if you don't like what someone's saying and then someone else can go and make an allegation against them and then they get charged and imprisoned for something they didn't even do.
00:02:43.680 And they haven't been proved to do. You know, anyone can get imprisoned for just speaking about things that people don't agree with.
00:02:49.700 So, yeah, innocent until proven guilty all the way.
00:02:56.620 It's tricky because Romania is just notoriously corrupt.
00:03:02.540 There's it's inevitable to even come to any other conclusion.
00:03:06.400 And he does have a lot of money.
00:03:08.380 And when he sees the money from these people, it goes to the politicians and the government.
00:03:13.560 And so, you know, he doesn't have the most clean past as well, because like he's done, you know, the cam stuff, you mean, like just the things he's been saying.
00:03:24.760 Like he said it when he was a smaller content producer.
00:03:27.300 And so I guess that, you know, he wasn't really planning for that to be analyzed by hundreds of millions of people.
00:03:33.560 Right.
00:03:33.980 You know what I mean?
00:03:34.960 I have a friend and her and I are pretty close and she's a Romanian lawyer and she was looking at this whole case.
00:03:42.340 And she was telling me, in her personal opinion, it wreaks corruption.
00:03:46.420 And she's working like in the legal system for Romania. 0.99
00:03:50.000 And we actually pulled up the documents because this is all public information and the Romanian judicial system.
00:03:56.700 So looking at circumstances, you know, I don't want to wish jail time on to anybody who doesn't deserve it.
00:04:05.940 And and entertain has been cool to me.
00:04:09.300 So I just I mean, my heart goes out for these guys.
00:04:12.660 My heart really goes out for these guys because they're in a bad spot, you know.
00:04:16.660 But I mean, I mean, it's just yeah, it's just really bad.
00:04:21.400 Be honest with you.
00:04:22.240 I wish nothing about the best of these guys, because I mean, when you live in a country that is notoriously corrupt.
00:04:29.520 Right.
00:04:30.600 There is a probability that that corruption will be used against you.
00:04:34.600 Kind of like the whole censorship argument right now.
00:04:36.680 People like censor, censor, censor.
00:04:38.160 Well, inevitably, that censorship will be turned and used on you.
00:04:42.900 So I just I hope and pray that these guys, you know, are going to be OK, because it's really just terrible.
00:04:50.460 I would I would not wish that on.
00:04:52.660 Well, maybe my worst enemy, but not my regular enemies.
00:04:58.280 I haven't.
00:05:02.140 Been looking at the case to briefly.
00:05:06.320 Like, I know the brief amount of stuff to know.
00:05:08.580 I've always kind of been a fan of Andrew Tate, so personally, I don't believe it.
00:05:17.360 But if it is true, then my heart goes out to the ladies, the lady, because I wouldn't wish anything like that upon anyone.
00:05:25.500 But personally, I just feel like.
00:05:29.040 They let him off on bail, was it?
00:05:32.140 Or suspensions or whatever.
00:05:33.840 House arrest.
00:05:34.460 House arrest.
00:05:34.920 House arrest.
00:05:35.400 House arrest, yes.
00:05:36.140 So they let him on house arrest and I don't know, like, there isn't really hardcore evidence, is there?
00:05:42.260 And then they're trying to get him back into jail now.
00:05:44.360 I just feel like they're trying to do anything to.
00:05:46.220 Because in Romania, like, the judicial system is pretty corrupt.
00:05:50.220 You have six months to incarcerate someone and or put somebody on house arrest while you collect evidence against them.
00:05:59.320 In the United States, I think you can only do it for 21 days.
00:06:02.600 You have 20, don't quote me on that, but I believe that is what I heard Myron saying, because he's a former federal agent.
00:06:10.600 And I believe that the United States government, they have 21 days to build a case against you and prosecute you.
00:06:16.760 So in Romania now, they have six months.
00:06:19.340 So now they're going to have to go to trial.
00:06:21.440 And some people are saying this trial is going to be one to two years long.
00:06:24.100 So it's looking like the Tates are going to be on house arrest for one to two years.
00:06:28.860 Wow.
00:06:29.880 That's crazy.
00:06:30.960 And it's crazy because it's, like, all off of one girl's accusation or one, two girl's accusations.
00:06:38.580 American woman.
00:06:42.180 So we're going to...
00:06:43.200 American woman who is cheating on her boyfriend. 0.99
00:06:45.480 Oh, really?
00:06:46.360 Because, yeah, that was the first thing that triggered the whole problem was that girl was in the Tates house.
00:06:54.100 And her boyfriend caught her.
00:06:56.300 And then she was like, oh, well, I'm being held against my will.
00:07:01.820 So the boyfriend called, like, I don't know if he called Interpol or something, but he called some kind of national organization, you know, some kind of police organization.
00:07:10.240 And then they went.
00:07:12.000 And then that was the first round of trouble for the Tates. 0.99
00:07:14.620 And so, you know, it's just, I don't know, it's just terrible to just look at this whole situation, you know, because, I mean, that's why you don't fuck around with people who have girlfriends. 0.97
00:07:25.440 Like, you know, like, if she says she's taken, like, just send her back out to the wild. 0.98
00:07:30.620 And if she's evil enough to betray her boyfriend, she's evil enough to betray you, you know?
00:07:35.480 It's bad news all around.
00:07:37.000 Yeah.
00:07:37.400 Can I interject slightly there?
00:07:39.420 Wasn't one of the accusations also human trafficking as well?
00:07:42.840 So was this the same woman that has also said this, or is this other accounts from other people?
00:07:48.060 Because as I said, I've not followed this.
00:07:49.660 It's a couple of things.
00:07:50.240 I think, is it just three charges or is it also forming a criminal organization?
00:07:55.660 Wasn't it, isn't it a grape?
00:07:58.300 Yeah, human trafficking.
00:07:59.220 Human trafficking, money laundering, and forming a criminal organization.
00:08:02.960 So the criminal organization, I believe, is just, they're saying that Andrew, Tristan, and then their assistants, these four people are technically a criminal group.
00:08:14.600 So the thing is, a lot of times when the governments want you to be in trouble, they will kind of, like, throw as many charges that, like, can stick on paper.
00:08:24.380 Like, in the state of Florida, if you get caught with marijuana, right, and it's a plastic bag, they'll charge you for the marijuana charge, and then they'll also charge you for drug paraphernalia.
00:08:35.480 And drug paraphernalia is the plastic bag that the weed is in, when traditionally drug paraphernalia is like a crack pipe or a heroin needle or something like that.
00:08:43.580 So these prosecutors, they try to get as many charges as possible on people to kind of justify the spending that they're getting from the government.
00:08:50.620 Be like, look at us, you know, we're locking people up.
00:08:52.820 So, I mean, who knows?
00:08:54.540 These are the things they've been officially charged with.
00:08:56.660 Now, they're still going to go to trial, and they could win trial because I heard that they have a really, from my Romanian lawyer friend, she was telling me that they have a really good lawyer as well.
00:09:04.680 So, you know, it's still going to go to trial, and knowing the Tates, you know, they're going to fight tooth and nail.
00:09:10.380 Those guys are not weak men at all.
00:09:12.320 They're going to fight tooth and nail.
00:09:13.840 So, we'll see what happens.
00:09:15.820 So, he posted a video today.
00:09:18.640 I don't know if it was today or yesterday, but we're going to play it if you guys want to pull it up.
00:09:24.000 Also, I think there's a super chat.