Tension At The Daily Wire! Ben Shapiro Vs Candace Owens
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Summary
Candace Owens has been called anti-Semitic by the Daily Wire for her pro-Israel stance, and Ben Shapiro has called her out for it. What does this have to do with Israel? And why does she think Nikki Haley should be the next president of Israel?
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So speaking of crazy behavior, this crazy, oh gosh, this is tea.
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You know Candace Owens works for Ben Shapiro at The Daily Wire.
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Now, we all know there's this huge conflict going on in Israel right now.
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Now, me personally, I haven't really, I don't know enough, like the conflict is so confusing
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I could see both points of view from what I've heard.
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Well, it's a conflict that's been going on for thousands of years.
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So I don't think anyone really knows what to make of it.
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There's some obvious things that we can all take from it.
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There's also a lot that I don't think any of us will ever be able to understand because
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And I've heard Candace Owens speak out about being called anti-Semitic.
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Because they're basically labeling Candace as anti-Semitic.
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I found out yesterday the most Googled I've ever been was when I was called anti-Semitic.
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No, but it's so interesting because I don't even have an opinion on that stuff.
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Like, I don't even have a strong feeling one way or the other.
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I could listen to someone on both sides talk and I would understand where they were coming
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So, I heard Candace saying that she condemns genocide on Twitter.
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I know she had a clip of her talking about how she wanted to nominate Nikki Haley for
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And she's sort of been poking fun at people calling everyone and everything anti-Semitic.
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Now, there's a clip that came out of Ben Shapiro slamming Candace Owens for her absolutely
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disgraceful behavior in front of a visibly shocked audience.
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Shapiro goes on to say, her faux sophistication on this issue is ridiculous.
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I think her behavior during this has been disgraceful.
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I think that her faux sophistication on these particular issues has been ridiculous.
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Everybody can see the moves that she's making and the things that she's saying.
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Here is one example of what Candace has been saying in the recent weeks.
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Owens endorses Nikki Haley for president of Israel amid collapsing support for Jewish state.
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Well, I am here today to endorse Nikki Haley for president of Israel.
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I think Bibi Netanyahu is going through a very bad time right now.
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Support for Israel has virtually collapsed socially.
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If you're paying attention to the trends and you're paying attention to what people are watching,
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And the one person that I think is capable of getting it back is Nikki Haley with enough money from foreign interest lobbies.
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I'm endorsing Nikki Haley, president of Israel.
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So, Nikki Haley is a presidential candidate in the U.S.
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I personally don't think women should really be in positions of power like that.
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The little takes that I've seen of hers, I don't really like.
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Like, she had one take that everyone on social media needs to have a public account.
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But I will say you have the right to have an anonymous account with no pictures.
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But, like, you know, that kind of goes back to how women like to micromanage, et cetera.
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And I think she's had a lot of pro-war stances.
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And so, basically, getting more involved in the Israel-Palestine conflict.
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And so, I want to say I think she has that view of Nikki Haley because Nikki wants to get
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I think Candace thinks we should stay out of it based on what I've seen.
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I've seen people that are on the side of Israel that we should get involved and support Israel.
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I've seen people that are on the side of Palestine that they're saying we should get
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And I've seen people that think we should just stay out of it.
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So, Owens compares the media's recent outcry over anti-Semitism to their complete silence
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We had a similar thing happen here in the UK very, very recently.
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Our Home Secretary was sacked for, she pointed out that the police in the UK were quite harsh
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I don't really know exactly the context of what was happening, but the police were harsh
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And a lot of people were saying that this Suella Braverman lady spoke for the sort of
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I don't know enough about her to say whether she speaks for me or not.
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But what I do know is that we are seeing a lot of people talking about how come you can
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speak about anti-something, anti-something, but you can't talk about this.
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There are a lot of people in America that are sitting here going, okay, well, can you answer
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Because as white people in this country on university campuses, we are being taught that
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We have had to endure exactly what you're talking about, BLM.
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We've endured much worse than you have because it's in the actual textbooks.
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We are being told that we are systematically racist, that we are born wrong because of the
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This is the typical experience on white campuses.
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This is like actually what we have been fighting for years.
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So it sort of arrived, as I think for a lot of Americans, a surprise when they're saying,
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well, now that it's about Israel, which is something that's overseas, we need to hand
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these university professors, we need to do something about this issue.
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Why weren't we trying to correct course on this issue?
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Why weren't donors pulling their funding out of these universities?
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Why weren't these same things being said for these last, I would say, eight years of
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rampant BLM, white man can't do anything right, actively being taught in the classrooms?
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So there are people that are asking that question.
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Now, what I have said is that explicit calls for genocide, which was stunning to me to see
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I have not weighed in on the IDF's response in the same way that I have consistently said
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through every war, Ukraine and Russia, I don't want to be involved.
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I have said I don't want to be involved in Israel and Palestine, all these conflicts.
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But I haven't made a single tweet or a single comment on IDF's response in Palestine.
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I have said it is always sad when a child dies.
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And the lack of humanity that I have seen from both sides has been very troubling for
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But to say that I have to weigh in and suddenly, you know, wave an Israeli flag and say things
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that, you know, because you decide that you get to use my platform because it's personal
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And then to then go a step further and to suggest that it might be anti-Semitic, which
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is basically silence is violence, is a leftist tactic, to me feels very extreme.
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This is not about a geographical, geopolitical dispute between Israel and Palestine.
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This is about an ideological mission to rid the world of Israel and the Jews.
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Yeah, well, Jews live very comfortably in the United States of America, so they're not
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going to be, I mean, you know, obviously Jews are-
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They lived comfortably in Germany before World War, before Germany, too.
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I really struggle when people start using, you know, things that have happened in the past
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that are abhorrent, like slavery, to say that, like, if this doesn't happen, then slavery
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Or if this doesn't happen, then it's going to be the Holocaust, too.
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I think there's a lot more meaningful chatter and discussion that we can have.
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We don't have to resort to that kind of, you know-
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History repeats itself if you forget it, you know.
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Unfortunately, I'm a grandchild of all four of my grandparents are Holocaust survivors.
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So what do you think of the Holocaust survivors and the Jewish people in New York City that
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Yeah, I think that there's a very strange, bizarre-
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I mean, it's the same people that you would condemn as the people of the white people who
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bowed down to BLM protesters who hate themselves and feel a certain sense of guilt.
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They feel a certain sense of, I think, a lot of the ideologies on the woke left, to the
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extent that things are good and prosperous and virtuous, they condemn as bad.
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And the things that are broken morally and depraved, they see as good.
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This is the lens by which the far left views things.
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And I think these Jews that happen to be politically far left and maybe are not that connected to
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their Judaism or are culturally, maybe culturally Jewish, but don't have a strong Jewish upbringing.
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Not to say that politics and being a Jew go hand in hand with the same political identity.
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But my point is, just like the white people who, in mass, were bowing down and feeling
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guilty about themselves simply for being white, or people who feel guilty for being successful,
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or the anti-capitalists who say anyone who has something is necessarily bad, some people
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buy into that sort of masochism of hating themselves to gain favor with people who want their destruction.
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So would you say that in order to be a Christian, you have to, a Catholic, you have to support
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Like, you can't be a Jewish person that just doesn't support the state of Israel.
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Yeah, because I have Jewish friends that are pro-Israel, and I have Jewish friends that
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say that they just do not support Zionism at all, and that they think that the creation
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of the Israel state is something that is political and has nothing to do with actually the Jewish
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And so I listen to both of those sides, I try to hear both of those voices, and I don't
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think having a different perspective makes any person less Jewish, and I think it's been
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problematic to hear, and this is not you, this isn't a person towards you, when they
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say, well, to even have that perspective makes you not Jewish, because it's so reminiscent
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And they say, well, even to be a black Republican, it's, you know.
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So I didn't see anything anti-Semitic or hateful.
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I mean, I don't know what Ben Shapiro is referring to as this terrible behavior, because to me,
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She doesn't sound like she's saying she's an expert on the topic.
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She doesn't sound like she's even really taking a side.
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She kind of seems similar to me, where we're both like, I don't know what to make of it,
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And maybe she's a little bit more, like, she probably is a little bit, like, knows a little
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bit more, but I'm like, I didn't even see her go hard one way or the other.
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Zionist lobby is starting to go after Candace Owens.
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Cernovich says, by now it's clear Israel is indiscriminately bombing Palestine.
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That's a matter of moral judgment and opinion, but please don't lie.
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Oh, she liked this one that said, I don't know, frankly, who should control Gaza,
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when or if Hamas is wiped out, but I do know it can't be Benjamin Matanyahi.
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Pierce Warden criticizes the Israeli prime minister's plans to occupy Gaza after the bombing is done.
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One must wonder if Ben Shapiro feels similarly about Matt Walsh, who has been similarly outspoken
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Following the GOP primaries debate last week, he said Republicans' allegiance to Israel is
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This is not how people talk about their own countries.
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It's like a sickness, a mental sickness, where some of our leaders, or would-be leaders,
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profess greater admiration and love for and pride in foreign countries than their own.
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Matt Walsh slammed Nikki Haley for contradicting herself in last week's debate.
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Haley demands that the U.S. help Israel, but just moments later claims that Israel doesn't
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Funny enough, this seems to echo a similar contradiction from Shapiro last month.
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If that's true, then how can you say that in one breath and then in the next breath tell
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us that it is imperative for the United States to help Israel?
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We could not exist, according to you, and it would make a difference.
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You cannot say they desperately need us and also they don't need us.
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You really expect us to believe that America benefits more from its alliance than Israel
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They say that I want America to fight wars for Israel.
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If Israel is forced to the wall, the possibility of nuclear exchange is extremely high.
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That is why it is very important that the United States provide the material aid to Israel
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So you have all four people like tweeting about each other.
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I think she'll either leave or they'll fire her.
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How have Walsh and Owens not been fired from the Daily Liar yet?
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Okay, Matt and Candice are about to get sacked.
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I understand you need to be somewhat ideologically aligned
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if you're going to be part of the same network.
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But it kind of begs the question of what can you differ on and what can't you?
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Because that's got to be such a big and, like, personal issue to Ben Shapiro
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that I am surprised they, like, worked for him to begin with
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because that seems to be, like, a core issue of who he is.
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And things are coming a bit more evident to people how they feel about certain things.
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And therefore, maybe it's revealing certain ideologies and things that they have.
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I don't think it was disgraceful behavior, though.
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I did not see anything from Candace that was absolutely disgraceful behavior.
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To me, what comes to mind for me is in the book, 1984, the idea of thought police.
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And unfortunately, I'm seeing this pattern in the media across all sources right now.
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If you ask questions, you're automatically given a label of disgraceful.
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And it's like, then it makes you question what...
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And then it's like, when you have thought police,
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and you are prohibiting people from asking questions,
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because what I have seen from Candace with my own eyes and ears,
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I have come to the conclusion that she was not acting disgracefully.
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And perhaps in certain areas, when she was referring to the anti-whiteness,
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is inferring that he knows Candace's intentions.
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And I've seen this pattern in every single conversation on this conflict.
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I do see the same pattern where people label you something for asking questions.
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And that begs the question, why can't we ask questions?
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Because society collapses when we stop talking to each other,
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And so people that are in the middle are kind of like,
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But, you know, I don't wish that they break up.
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I think she'll either quit or they'll fire her.