JustPearlyThings - November 12, 2023


The Future For Modern Women


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2,296

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194

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In this episode, we discuss AI girlfriends and why women should be worried about them. We also talk about why women need to learn to be more modest in order to attract and keep a good relationship with a man.

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00:00:00.000 And if you think things are bad now, wait until there are AI girlfriends out there. 0.99
00:00:03.780 If you think it's hard to get a guy to settle for you now, and same for girls. 0.87
00:00:07.400 Oh, wait, it's right around the corner.
00:00:09.260 And when we talk about prenatalism, I'm like, look, we're playing on easy mode now.
00:00:13.160 Convincing people it's worth dealing with another human being for the rest of your life,
00:00:17.400 that's going to be dramatically hard to motivate in the near future.
00:00:19.880 We don't like each other, clearly.
00:00:22.160 We don't trust each other.
00:00:24.220 How soon do you see that happening, the AI girlfriends? 0.99
00:00:27.100 It's now.
00:00:27.700 Now.
00:00:28.060 Now they're just not perfect yet.
00:00:30.880 They're just not what?
00:00:31.740 They're just not perfect yet.
00:00:32.820 But, I mean, they're out there now.
00:00:34.360 I'm not telling people to go out there and start dating AI.
00:00:37.340 I think Futurama is their robo-sexuality episode.
00:00:40.760 Marilyn Monroe.
00:00:42.460 It's because you can get everything that you want.
00:00:45.000 You can take everything off, you see?
00:00:46.540 Like, when you get a 10, you want an 11.
00:00:48.420 When you got an 11, you want a 12.
00:00:49.920 Is the equivalent of an AI girlfriend the equivalent to women as Instagram?
00:00:54.320 Because you're getting all the attention that you would have gotten from your husband?
00:00:59.900 From Instagram?
00:01:00.780 Can I do this one?
00:01:01.240 Because I really almost see Instagram as like a new religion for chicks. 0.98
00:01:05.580 Yeah.
00:01:06.140 Yeah, because it's like, and this was kind of an interesting thought I had.
00:01:09.940 So, this is why I brought this up.
00:01:11.740 Who here, raise of hands, thinks that women owe society modesty? 1.00
00:01:15.240 Okay, yeah.
00:01:18.020 Okay, no, no, all right.
00:01:18.980 No, no, yes, yes, yes.
00:01:19.760 It's all right, it's all right.
00:01:20.280 Yes, yes.
00:01:20.580 No, no, it's all right.
00:01:21.600 So, my thought was, I feel like when you become a wife and a mother, you're supposed to move
00:01:27.100 a little bit differently.
00:01:28.300 You're not really, you know, and I'm not even pro, you know, dressing super provocatively,
00:01:33.860 but, you know, I think back in the day, they'd raise the skirt a little bit, show the ankles,
00:01:38.180 and, you know, it would signal that they were single, right?
00:01:41.760 But now it's like you have women that are married, wives, mothers with children, signaling 0.95
00:01:46.840 that they are single when they're in a relationship.
00:01:50.100 Because they settled.
00:01:51.820 Yeah, exactly.
00:01:53.240 I say it like this, if your wife is a feminist, you didn't work hard enough. 1.00
00:01:57.220 And so, there's a really interesting thing about the AI girlfriend.
00:01:59.720 There's a strong correlation here.
00:02:00.920 So, for example, an AI girlfriend, what does that imply?
00:02:03.620 It implies that a man can choose the perfect features, let's say, physically, for what he
00:02:07.240 imagines his ideal woman to be.
00:02:08.620 And then also modulates for the personality trait that a woman exhibits towards him. 0.99
00:02:14.260 And he's probably not going to maximize for nagging and hate.
00:02:17.220 He's going to maximize for compliance and loving on a second, right?
00:02:20.420 And so, a question I would ask is, let's say a man without any, like, proliferation of
00:02:23.780 technology or anything like that, how would a man be able to maximize for the ideal physical
00:02:28.120 specimen that treats him the best?
00:02:29.440 What would a man have to do?
00:02:30.340 And I tell my friends this, and I say that your wife or your girlfriend will treat you
00:02:35.440 exactly as good as just a little better than the next girl that would be available to you.
00:02:42.820 I.e., if you're a low-value man and your wife treats you like crap, the reason she's 1.00
00:02:47.660 doing it is because she doesn't believe you have better options in the marketplace.
00:02:50.800 Otherwise, the market would steal you away from her.
00:02:52.580 Does that make sense?
00:02:53.340 Right.
00:02:53.440 So, in the past, in order for a man to iterate up to the point that he gets his ideal woman,
00:02:58.420 he would have to be an ideal man.
00:03:00.040 So, for example, if you're David Beckham and you're ridiculously good at sports, like,
00:03:04.220 you've worked your ass off to do that, and you've kept yourself in shape, and you've kept
00:03:07.720 yourself in a straight line, you get to pick a Spice Girl, right?
00:03:10.560 Right.
00:03:10.880 But with the AI model, again, we eliminate the desperation because the man can have what they
00:03:14.700 want without paying the prices that they owe to society to get what they want.
00:03:18.380 And this is why religions often augment this with negative externalities from moving between 0.96
00:03:24.920 partners.
00:03:25.440 This is why, in most traditional religious cultures, they'll say, oh, you left your wife.
00:03:30.400 Now, your value on the market is, like, super, super low because you're an oath-breaker.
00:03:34.580 Do you know that this also explains why 95% of billionaires and 89% of millionaires are
00:03:39.400 married?
00:03:39.980 Because the negative repercussions of leaving your spouse shows the other men in the
00:03:43.240 community that you're untrustworthy, and then you lose the business.
00:03:45.620 So, people think that, like, the rich guys do all the bad stuff.
00:03:47.840 There is some of that.
00:03:48.820 But 95% of billionaires and 89% of millionaires are married because of maintaining the social
00:03:53.660 norm to maintain trust within their community.
00:03:55.160 But this also comes to modesty.
00:03:56.240 The reason I didn't raise my hand when you say, do women owe society modesty? 0.90
00:03:59.360 Women owe their husbands or future husbands modesty. 0.97
00:04:03.240 That is the person who will suffer most for your immodesty.
00:04:06.800 I don't think it's something you owe society or even yourself.
00:04:09.620 It's something you owe the person who is going to dedicate their life to you.
00:04:12.980 And you will get a lower-quality partner if you do not.
00:04:16.680 Like, it hurts you.
00:04:17.340 I actually, I think children deserve a world where they're not seeing private parts.
00:04:22.160 Sorry.
00:04:22.780 I know.
00:04:23.060 Maybe you liked it.
00:04:24.320 Sorry.
00:04:24.880 I don't know.
00:04:26.080 But I just, that's what I think.
00:04:27.900 I just think you should have a culture that does not reward.
00:04:31.520 And really, I think we should shame, you know, especially when you're married.
00:04:36.800 Like, that's the biggest thing.
00:04:37.860 I think when you're married, you're supposed to move differently than when you are not.
00:04:41.460 So, I decided let's do some social shaming.
00:04:44.700 So, I want us to decide.
00:04:46.400 I want us to decide as a group.
00:04:48.520 I had some comments on some of these pictures.
00:04:52.360 And I want us, for posting as a wife and a mother, I want you to raise your hand if you think that this is wrong or right.
00:05:00.760 Like, I'm going to, we're going to show the picture.
00:05:02.220 Okay.
00:05:02.740 Here we go.
00:05:03.980 Well, no.
00:05:04.300 I just want to, I want to know the rules of, like, when you're married.
00:05:07.340 Is this appropriate for a wife and a mother or inappropriate? 0.52
00:05:10.680 Okay.
00:05:10.900 Let's pull it out.
00:05:11.800 The answer is no.
00:05:12.920 Okay.
00:05:13.220 So, number one, I want to hear from the men first.
00:05:17.400 Would you be okay with your wife posting this?
00:05:21.420 Who wants to go first?
00:05:22.660 To be honest, if she's in a hot country and I'm topless and I look good as well next to her, then why not?
00:05:29.640 No, no.
00:05:29.700 Just this one.
00:05:30.620 Just this one.
00:05:31.120 Just herself.
00:05:31.760 So, the question is?
00:05:33.020 I didn't say the picture with you.
00:05:34.760 I said this one.
00:05:35.820 This girl?
00:05:36.600 Yes.
00:05:37.700 Okay.
00:05:38.220 What's the specific question about this picture?
00:05:40.060 No, the question is, like, if you added a caveat where you're in the picture, I'm saying you're not in the picture.
00:05:46.340 If I'm not in the picture, is that appropriate for my wife to dress like that? 1.00
00:05:49.660 If she's not dressed like that, to post this picture on Instagram.
00:05:53.700 Personally, I wouldn't want her to.
00:05:55.480 Okay.
00:05:56.520 What do you think?
00:05:57.920 I mean, she's on holiday.
00:05:59.960 She's not really doing nothing crazy.
00:06:02.120 I'm fine with that.
00:06:02.920 You're fine with this one?
00:06:03.980 Personally.
00:06:04.200 For her to post it with us?
00:06:05.960 On Instagram, personally.
00:06:06.300 Okay, you're fine with this one.
00:06:07.500 I'm good.
00:06:07.560 Uh, uh, I don't know, man.
00:06:11.980 Um, I think, I'm going to say no.
00:06:16.020 No?
00:06:16.200 Let's move on from now.
00:06:16.760 Okay, what do you think?
00:06:17.920 Honestly, I have more trouble with the tan than the swimsuit.
00:06:20.500 A tan is a sign of vanity that shows that you've traded years of your life to show off to other people on social media.
00:06:27.580 Okay, so the tan would do it for you.
00:06:30.400 Well, I don't like vanity that costs you your health because that's what your kids rely on.
00:06:35.720 Yeah, I don't even, it's not even about the swimsuit.
00:06:38.420 It's about, like, what are you posting it for?
00:06:41.180 It's a cry for help.
00:06:42.620 What we're missing, she clearly has an eating disorder. 1.00
00:06:45.300 This woman needs help. 1.00
00:06:46.360 She's asking for help.
00:06:48.440 And she looks like she gems.
00:06:49.980 Yeah.
00:06:50.140 Yeah.
00:06:50.700 I think she's like a bodybuilder. 1.00
00:06:54.140 Bodybuilders are famous for their eating disorders.
00:06:57.600 You can tell she does that vacuum thing with her stomach. 1.00
00:07:00.180 But I'm more just asking, like, okay, raise of hands.
00:07:02.920 Who thinks this is appropriate for a wife and a mother? 0.94
00:07:05.860 No, a wife and a mother.
00:07:06.520 My wife doesn't have the time to do this kind of stuff because she's trying to make the world a better place. 1.00
00:07:09.640 She's not in the bedroom.
00:07:10.660 Okay, so.
00:07:11.340 I think her wife took that photo.
00:07:12.360 I want to hear from you three.
00:07:13.420 Why do you think this is appropriate for a wife and a mother?
00:07:15.780 I don't feel like there's anything wrong with the picture.
00:07:18.320 I think she looks good.
00:07:19.360 She's minding her business.
00:07:20.360 She's clearly on holiday or somewhere tropical or something, even if that's her backyard, she's got a nice house.
00:07:24.820 But I feel like because of the nature of the picture, it doesn't look inappropriate.
00:07:29.120 Whereas if she was just somewhere, I don't know, in ends or just in, like, underwear, like a Savage X Fenty kind of pose, then, yeah, cool.
00:07:38.320 I would say that's more sexualized.
00:07:39.780 That's fine.
00:07:40.580 Okay, what do you think?
00:07:41.840 I think based on 2023 standards, this is normal.
00:07:45.020 Yeah.
00:07:45.200 What mother does not do this online to show their combat body and how great they are as moms, they look sexy, they have kids, this and that. 1.00
00:07:52.740 I don't think it offends anybody.
00:07:55.440 Obviously, a stomach kind of offends me because how do I get that?
00:07:59.400 But, like, it doesn't really offend me, but obviously I don't have kids yet, so I can't really speak on it.
00:08:04.220 I think if I had kids and I had to, I was thinking, oh, I want to feel, dude, I want to post it, but I don't know.
00:08:09.720 I'd actually just choose my kids and be like, you don't forget it.
00:08:12.420 What do you think?
00:08:13.000 It's not lingerie.
00:08:13.940 She's not in a bedroom.
00:08:15.720 She's not over-sexualizing herself.
00:08:18.080 She's not even sucking on that straw the way some females would. 1.00
00:08:22.140 So, for me, that is completely appropriate.
00:08:24.880 Is she posting it because she looks good and she wants attention? 0.74
00:08:27.500 Probably.
00:08:28.580 Is she pushing her chest out?
00:08:30.080 Yeah.
00:08:30.260 But if she's with a secure man, that's really not going to faze him.
00:08:34.400 That's what females do. 1.00
00:08:35.080 It's not about being a secure man.
00:08:36.240 No way.
00:08:36.520 It is, though, because you're worried that she's posting something.
00:08:38.900 You're worried that she's going to get DMs and likes and attention. 0.97
00:08:41.680 You don't want your woman to send. 1.00
00:08:42.580 I have a question.
00:08:44.660 Why would you put yourself in a situation where you can get DMs and likes from other men?
00:08:51.620 Why would you put yourself in that situation?
00:08:53.680 Because she's not going, oh, I'm posting this for men.
00:08:56.780 She's genuinely going, she's posting it for herself.
00:08:59.060 But when you post something, you know other men will see it.
00:09:01.980 But you can post a picture of yourself in a tracksuit.
00:09:04.800 We can take the comments.
00:09:05.760 No, but I'm saying when you post something, when you post something, you know other men will see it.
00:09:10.720 Yeah.
00:09:11.060 So, why would you, when you are a wife and a mother, why would you put yourself in a situation like that?
00:09:18.000 I just don't see it as a situation.
00:09:19.460 I just don't think it's a situation.
00:09:21.400 You can create the world that you live tonight.
00:09:22.120 I just, yeah, exactly.
00:09:23.520 I just, I see her as a woman who has all the rights in the world to do whatever she wants. 0.99
00:09:28.120 I didn't say she doesn't have the right to.
00:09:30.280 I said, this is about should.
00:09:32.880 So, like, is this appropriate for a wife and a mother?
00:09:36.800 Why do you think she's doing it? 0.92
00:09:38.460 What is her goal with this?
00:09:40.840 She could be an only friend's mother.
00:09:42.520 To show off her figure. 0.94
00:09:43.420 To show off her figure. 0.94
00:09:44.340 Exactly.
00:09:44.680 That's the problem.
00:09:45.380 Yeah, I would say validation.
00:09:47.900 Something like this, guys.
00:09:49.000 So, imagine, like, I use Facebook, so I'm old.
00:09:51.440 So, you guys probably don't use Facebook.
00:09:52.860 And I have something on my Facebook called Facebook feed where I'll scroll through.
00:09:57.480 And so, I'm married.
00:09:59.040 And so, who is on my Facebook feed?
00:10:00.840 Like, my Halloween 11 years ago was a softcore site on Facebook because all the girls were in kitten outfits and mini skirts as nurses.
00:10:06.800 Now, it's all moms, right? 0.95
00:10:08.020 So, who I have on my Facebook are the mutual friends of myself and my wife and our neighbors.
00:10:13.420 Now, I think to myself, like, if I'm scrolling through my Facebook feed and I see the neighbor's wife posting pictures like that in her bikini,
00:10:19.660 and I wonder what my wife would think about that.
00:10:22.760 Like, I wonder what my wife is thinking.
00:10:24.100 Like, huh, the neighbor's wife, who's also connected to my husband on Facebook, is posting pictures of herself in a bikini.
00:10:29.360 How would you guys feel about that?
00:10:30.700 If your husband's Facebook feed was showing the neighbor's wife dressed like that, how would you feel, honestly?
00:10:36.480 It probably does.
00:10:37.340 We are—
00:10:37.560 Yeah.
00:10:37.840 We are—
00:10:37.880 We are—